EVERY Cut Pokémon From EVERY Generation That We Know About So Far
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- Beta and cut Pokemon are one of the most interesting things in the entire Pokemon series, and in recent years we've got to learn about a ton of them. That's why, in this video, I have decided to go over EVERY cut Pokemon from every generation that we know about so far, and discuss how many we know about, what we know about them, and what we have still yet to find out. I hope you enjoy!
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Gorochu being cut STILL hurts my soul.
SV would've been a great chance to bring them in as a paradox of Raichu
@@unknownknightsWould have been cool if Gorochu was a Mega Evolution for Raichu.
@@ionryfulFr
Maybe they’ll add him back as a split evolution
@@ThePatrickCoxand make Raichu EVEN MORE IRRELEVANT
Could you imagine if the “151 set” was actually the “300 set”
You want me to attempt this video idea?
Then gen 1 would be huge
Could you Imagine if every generation had 300 to 400 pokemon
@@xaviermize4509 that would have made the series a hundred times better than how it is
Much more Pokémon to catch. That’s something that should be happening from generation 10 onwards
@@xavierperesno . it would oversaturate the pokedex with tons of filler pokemon , not to mention gamefreak releases a new gen every 3 years , it would be impossible to make so many pokemon that are well rounded and completed in their design within a 3 year time frame ..
For the title "every cut pokemon" youd expect him to mention them by name. Shouldve titled this "history of cut pokemon"
Are you absolutely certain Sugimori was speaking literally with those numbers? Sometimes a culture (especially an ancient culture) will use [a big number] to just mean "a lot", like we say "a million".
I really like how in Scarlet and Violet they revisited some of their beta sprites and made them into their own Pokemon like Bellibolt for example. I hope they expand more on this in the future.
Yeah also Bombirdier and Lokix are basically a 1:1 old concepts, more Bombirdier since the "locust/shinobi" wasn't even with a comprehensible sprite.
I just want my purple magicarp man😢
@@thatguymaplewe got shiny feebas tho
I kinda feel like Beta!Suicune would have made a neat Paradox Pokémon.
@@valeriocapannican you elaborate on this?
Despite Mega Flygon got scraped I hope Flygon gain a Regional Variation someday as a part of a redemption along with Milotic who also should get a Regional Variation as well
And Golduck too!
We never even got to see the concepts for Mega Flygon before the design was abandoned, now that I think of it.
i really hope flygon gets a paradox form, i think there’s definitely cool directions with both past or future they could take it
@Youngapollo47 a past version could be named "Soaring Lizard" and a future version could be named like "Iron Dragon"
Regional variations still leave behind the original pokemon. Qwilfish is still useless even though H-Qwilfish exists, for example.
I want that adorable Electric type tiger Pokémon to return
Kotora come back plis 😭😭
@@coffe3136 yea
Probably got reworked to Shinx
Every cut pokemon implies you were gonna show us the actual individual pokemon. You didn't..
pokemon hater
Some of these were cut before there were designed and just concepts.
@@eeveefennecfoxthat makes no sense
When you said "it's not just a gold mine" I 100% expected you to say "it's also a silver mine"
A Pokémon based on Dolly the sheep was cut from gen 1. Nobody ever brings it up but the developers revealed in an old interview that it was cut cause they didn't want to risk controversy about clones.
and then we got Mareep and Flaffy on gen2 when pokemon was already a established brand for this kind of controversy to hit it too hard
In the same game where there's Mewtwo they feared controversy about cloning?
@@valeriocapanni because Mewtwo is a new species, while back then was an outcry that pure clones didn't have souls and shouldn't be permitted for any animals etc
I also see nobody talking about Munna/Musharna being cut from gen 1, since the reference is being made about a Pink Pokemon with a Floral Pattern outside Rock Tunnel (Lavender side).
@@RadeticDaniel don’t forget wooloo and dubwool from generation 8, they too are sheep based Pokemon and they look more like sheep than mareep and flaafy
I wish there was a regional variant of Pikachu that evolved into Gorochu.
Not gonna lie, the thumbnail and the title made it seem like you were going to just do a pokedex type video consolidating all lost pokemon into one. Kinda disappointing we didn't get that tbh
There are loads of Gen I pkmn that were redesigned, then cut, in Gen II. So The mismatched numbers Sugimori gave might be influenced by that.
That said, maybe Gen IV had almost no cut mons, bc they revisited their Gens I, II, & III backlogs, which included so many transgen evos.
i think maybe Ken Sugimori could've meant that they've cut a third of created pokemon for the game, but also they designed several more ideas during concept art stage and some of the concept designs got dropped before going further through the pipeline
I like how they used cut pokemon in older gens and added them to the new ones
was hoping someone did a video like this! appreciate the work!
Convergent Gyarados as a basilisk would be awesome.
it was likely a sand worm, given the original beta design and the fact that the toedscool line also has the general concept of "take a water line from gen 1 and move it to the land"
Sugimori: We actually designed a million Pokemon for this game.
Tajiri: Really? I just remember 200.
Sugimori: Yeah, 200 million.
Oh my god! Can you imagine if this were true?
I know it’s not true but it would be insane beyond comprehension for someone or anyone at all to draw a million Pokémon, even more insane 200 million Pokemon!
I just can’t imagine a Pokemon game that would possibly have one million Pokemon! Even less 200 million Pokemon! From 100 to 185 or 215 is one thing,but from 1 million to 200 million? That’s impossible to imagine even for me
@@tlst94 good point
The smalest spider pokémon might have become joltik. (Since galvantula is a spider)
0'04 obviously
Flygon definitely needs more attention, its a great pokemon but they could make so much more out of it
even famous people get artblock,I suffer from artblock to so I can feel his pain
Why didn’t they just let somebody else do the art, there are a million concepts online. Disrespecting my boy Flygon
Perhaps they should make a few games comprised of only the cut Pokemon designs. That would be fun
Wobbuffet needs an evolution and Meowth needs a pre evolution.
Yes and yes
Meowth actually had a pre evolution in the gen 2 betas look it up its really neat
@@NotSnak I know.
I always wanted a Wobbuffet evolution.
really wish they would bring back lighting tiger
I think that when Sugamori said a few hundred Pokemon were made, he was including the Pokemon we did get
Sugimori
@@oniondesu9633 thanks, I didn't know I spelt it wrong
I definitely want Game Freak to bring back Gorochu as the 4th stage evolution for the Pikachu line.
Or even an alternative evolution method
Or Convergent Pikachu gain the oni treatment
He looks more like a past paradox version of Raichu would definitely be better probably a fire/electric Type lol
The first and (maybe) only pokemon to get 4 evolution stages is the mascot of the franchise
Doesn't sound like a bad idea
I can see it as Mega Raichu
I know it would never happen but imagine Pokémon threw a curve ball and made a game in which the Pokédex was made up of only Pokémon that have been cut and lost to time.
A Pokémon game with a Pokémon with the several hundreds of cut Pokémon only in it’s Pokédex
That would be rad
It would be interesting to see the concept of a rabbit with some sort of flower on its nose...except that the concept was clearly revisited and most likely became what we know now as Scorbunny, since it has that bandage thing also on its nose.
My take on gen1 comments from Sugimori.
If he had nearly 300 concepts and they've cut 1/3 of of it, about 200 would remain.
The original provision for gen1 was 190 Pokémon on it's internal index. The holes on the list show up as missingno.
From 190 to 151 was about game balancing and cartridge space. The cartridge still had empty banks, but the Pokémon data was all together in one bank pretty much full.
@@tlst94 no need to cut features, but reorganizing memory banks. Time to switch between banks was enough to cause some strategic decisions, such as animations or fade outs and fade ins so the player didn't notice a choke when you enter a door for instance.
All battle data is in one bank, including trainer teams and evolution/learnsets data to make it fluid while fighting.
If you ever tried adding pokemon to NPC parties or adding new species, you realize it runs out quickly.
As a curiosity there are reused NPC teams in different maps that I never noticed before trying to edit them 😁
Yet FLAMIGO GETS THROUGH
well spoken brother
I will redesign a rabbit Pokémon with a flower nose today ! It will be a grass and fairy type, with pink and green as their colour scheme.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the more tenuous ones like "Bergmite and Avalugg middle evo" and "Mega Jynx"
To be fair, those ones as you said were quite “tenuous” with only circumstantial evidence.
In fact I’m not sure where the “middle evo” for Avalugg even comes from.
The 300 designed doesn't mean 300 programed so they could have designed 300 programed 190, cut to 150
What if every Gen had 1,000 unique species? While the Pokedexes had a 100-entry limit? So each Trainer had a unique collection? How'd that have been like?
How are they going to say that the cut rabbit with a flower for a nose makes no sense, yet have living piles of sludge/trash?
no idea,I think the rabbit sounds cute,they should've kept it,it sounded like a grass type
It’s so weird, I was looking for content on this last night. I like to think these Pokémon exist in a parallel universe somewhere
I would remove Raikou and the Pikachu line from existence if that meant we could've had the rotund thunder tiger line.
Imagine if Gorochu became a convergent species of Spheal. It is possible as they are both round
The Everlasting Summer pokemon sounds honestly terrifying
My headcanon for the cut preevolutions, still exist, its just that those species of pokemon are better at hiding thei babies.
Yeah! The cut Pokémon get the attention they deserve once again
Let’s hope the hundreds of cut Pokémon from black and white are also leaked and revealed to the world too
Hundreds of Pokémon that never even been leaked to this point, makes me wonder what kinds of Pokémon could have been made for black and white, not to mention the other Pokémon games that came after black and white, since we’ve seen the ones that were cut from the first four generations
I can see why that should happen & all. But GameFreak has to deal with licensing issues. And they probably want to reuse concept art for future Pokémon games. It’s like with artists for films/tv shows, video games, & graphic designers in general to.
@@FireheartSamuraii see
Maybe I will be able to see some of those cut Pokémon reworked in Pokémon legends z-a. Especially mega flygon
Link to the song that played in the opening scene explanation part of the video?
I need a ROM hack that puts them all back TBH These are the REAL Paradox Pokémon.
On the topic of convergent Gyarados I gave my Gyarados a ground at Terra type and nicknamed it Almudron
I could imagine many of the cut Pokémon from a past gen evolved into new gen Pokémon
is the background theme on this video a version of the flintstones theme played on bells?
If there were originally 300 designs for the gen 1 dex, and we still got Pokémon like Muk, Seaking and Electrode, those 149 cut designs must have been truly repulsive.
i'm guessing some of those were probably early designs for stuff like charizard for example (dragon4)
some were probably scrapped before their design got finalized,and some got scrapped because of constraints,and well,the electric ball tiger kotora,do i really need to elaborate,it got cut twice
and i imagine some were probably repurposed for later generations.
YES CUT CONTENT!
Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :)
Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu.
I don't see why GameFreak has to be so secretive about cut pokemon. I think it would be fun to see all of them, and maybe fantasize about what could've been
As unglamorous as this answer is, it's probably for licensing reasons. They tend to go back and use ideas and pokemon from the cut list when making new generations, so I'm sure they wouldn't want to release this list, lest another company takes the ideas and makes IPs out of them as or before they release them in a new generation. That would make for a messy legal situation that's just better to avoid. That's also probably why very old cut pokemon concepts are generally the only ones released, as they're confident that they won't use them by this point.
@@CWCvilleCop Well... thats not true though..
Like... we literally see that Johto had cut a bird, which has 100% been converted into Bombirdier.
@@nickdentoom1173 Yeah the last bit about why they've released old cut Pokemon ideas is just a bit of speculation on my part. It could just be that the creator of these has the right to share them when he wants to, and he's chosen to sometimes. I'm not saying I KNOW the reasons for all this, just that it's typical in the industry, and it makes a lot of sense that they would keep most of them a secret for this reason.
@@nickdentoom1173 the johto betas were never even officially revealed, they got leaked
In X & Y the Ice gym leaders English & Japanese names both have Wolf in them which leads me to believe there was going to be an Ice Wolf that was meant to be his signature pokemon but got cut. It's a shame since you think we would have an Ice wolf Pokemon by now.
Yeah, it's strange we don't have an arctic wolf yet
Bunny with a flower on its nose makes less sense than a panda bear in France apparently heh
kotora being cut is a crime
pangshi is also pretty funny
We need to bring back the scrapped evolution for Pinsir, “Plux” or “Plucks”
9:15. This makes a lot of sense. 3x sounds a bit excessive but I imagine the team pitches a lot of designs that don't make the final game. It's hard to imagine they would just design the 151 (or however many it is for that gen) and just improve on them from there. It seems obvious that there would be dozens, if not hundreds of pokemon designs that don't make the final game in each Gen.
gorochu was the one mon that didnt deserve a deletion
you ever just have to yawn really bad but no matter what, the yawn will not happen?
Did the fan translation of the Pokemon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo ever finish? I really wanna play it, but I've been waiting for that ^^
Unfortunately not. The team that was working on it disbanded. There's been plenty of romhacks based off the Spaceworld 97 version but no one else has taken up fully translating the original.
@@CommanderWiggins Ah, darn... Well, I appreciate you telling me ^^
@@Gamester8000 well if you want a more finalized version with some extra postgame content gold/silver 97 reforged is pretty good
@@Damian-cilr1 Hmm... Maybe I'll look at that, thanks! ^^
@@CommanderWiggins Why'd they disbanded? Why couldn't they be a perfect permanent team? What species are they?
i like how you think sugimori speaks english
Exactly, like why are you trying to analyse every word when you should know it's been translated
How many of the cut Pokémon became other Pokémon in later gens and also how many got morphed into other Pokémon
They should make an entirely new regions pokedex consist of scrapped pokemon from the previous gens, can have a few of the beta designs as regional forms and pokemon that were designed to be evos like gorachu regional evos similar to how Mr. Rime played out in swsh
Maybe the regions that are in the same landmass as unova could be useful for regions with Pokédexes that consists of scrapped pokemon of every kind
I imagine that sugimori made 300, and the creative team cut 75 and from the 225 remain game freak cut 75 more
2:18 I’m guessing he meant approximate 1/3, not exactly or nearly exact. 151 out of 300 is roughly close enough to 1/3 to not be a lie :)
I heard the flintstones theme in the gen 6 section’s bg music :^|
A insider also said they cut a new rotom form for gen 9 also
I hope some day when big documentaries cover the 100th anniversary of pokemon our wrinkly butts get to crowd the retirement homes common area tvs to see them drop every drop of cut content and tell the story of how all the old games were etc
Take a shot every time he says “as well”
i hope there always be this type of secret about cut pokemon because it would not be the same if they just let everything out in the wild, i feel like it would not be as special as it is
So many cool ones cut from gen 2
Please make a video specifically about Pre-Pokemon (Capsule Monsters), such as Godzillante, Gorillaimo and Kabiin.
5:26 what website is this from??
Hoops delivers a BANGER yet again! Stoked for this one!
I'm surprised they haven't made an Ant Man inspired pokemon. With a gimmick ability similar to Wishiwashi's/Morepeko's that let's it go microscopic or giant.
the worst possible outcome for me (as a beta pokemon enthusiast) is there being no imagery for certain beta pokemon. an image and nothing else is more powerful than a ton of descriptions.
I feel like we’re hearing about less cut Pokémon because the bar is falling.
I will never forgive them they cut these gen 2 Pokemon especially turban.
Turbann was so necessary! That is NOT a shelder!
Why no mention of Eternal Floette?
If you you mentioned Mega Flygon, it should be fair to also mention Eternal Floette, which was not just a unique form of Floette but also had a signature move and unique stats.
Small oni pokemon huh I think that's resurfacing in the gen 9 dlc
I really wish that Game Freak was more open about their concept art, since this is easily one of the most fascinating and important part of game development. They've probably built up an archive that could take up volumes by now.
Many other franchises such as Star Trek, Star Wars, and Zoids have published their concept art, and it's a shame that Game Freak hasn't done the same with Pokemon.
They could but in reality GameFreak has licensing details to work out. Also GameFreak tends to keep some of these designs on the hand just in case they want to use them for future Pokémon games. It’s pretty common for something like that to happen with all artists for films/tv shows/video games & graphic designers in general.
@@FireheartSamurai It's also not uncommon for designs to be published, and then later reused in a future game or TV series.
Star Trek has done this many times, with USS Discovery being a redesigned version of a USS Enterprise designed by Ralph McQuarrie for Planet of the Titans (cancelled, replaced with Phase II, which in turn became The Motion Picture)
The Nova class, being based on a concept of the USS Defiant
The Valiant Class, another concept of the USS Defiant, used in STO.
The Grissom class, which was an early concept for the USS Voyager, also reused for STO.
Even a concept versions of the USS Voyager and Enterprise-C, which have been modeled in 3D and released as collectors toys.
It can be fascinating when you see scrapped concepts later reused, and as you can see, some with very few alterations from their original concepts, often just fleshed out with added detail to bring them up to specs.
There could be political corporate and/or licensing reasons why Gamefreak has chosen to take a private approach with their concept art, but I would imagine that not all of the above designs would have had the opportunity to get fleshed out years later if they had remain locked away on some server, especially the Ambassador and Intrepid classes.
And Star Trek design and history would have been the poorer for it.
Yeah true but it’s possible that GameFreak have their reasons why in not wanting to release their designs to the public. I think 1 of those reasons probably have to do with copyright reasons.
I always thought Shuckle evolved into Torkoal
That filter in the DS games footage... I can't take it.
What about AZ's Floette?
We know it exists, we have all the data,scrapped event data ALL OF IT, even had different stats from a normal one. It never got released,never was put out. Why not mention that one?
I truly believe they go back to their scrapped designs and make actually current real Pokémon out of them
I would love if we got a region full of these cut pokemon
I still hope we finally get that chubby electric tiger 😞
It can at least not be electric types just give us the tiger
For the love of Arceus, game freak please release some of the cut Pokemon to us
Archeoptryx 100% became Archen line... Black Stone Pokemon can have become Houndstone. Dragonfly Pokemon is 100% Yanmega, but was pushed back into gen 4 (Just like Shellos and Gastrodon were supposed to be gen 3). Flower Pokemon might have become Flabebe line or the Lilligant line.
Sugimori saying a few hundred Pokemon be made... doesn't specifically have to mean they are all cut though. Some could have been used for upcoming regions, due to the setting for them to appear in making more sense.
@@DebbyHasKitties I haven't even considered Roggenrola line... good call. Now, another candidate for the Black Stone Pokemon is the Rolycoly line, considering coal is literally black rock/stone.
I thought this was about pokemon that could learn Cut.
I was hoping for a glorious shitpost but this is fine too.
It's would be interesting if there was a lot of new Pokemon each region.
But then a lot of iconic Pokemon wouldn't be as popular.
I do hope Black & White remakes would try to add more new Pokemon, like regional forms and convergent Pokemon.
The developers wanted those games to be only new Pokemon.
The idea of tons of new Pokémon for each region is the best idea ever, they should just do more new pokemon and no returning Pokémon in future regions and save the old Pokémon for remakes or better yet, sequels of old regions’ games and get accompanied by tons of brand new pokemon from those old regions
Let’s hope that both gold and silver new remakes or rather sequels as well as unova remakes or rather sequels (black 3 and white 3 please) have multiple hundreds of brand new Pokémon and that the only returning Pokémon are just the Pokémon of their respective generations
Johto remakes or sequels retuning Pokémon: only generation 2
Unova remakes or sequels returning Pokémon: only generation 5 Pokémon
And the rest of the Pokémon of both are brand new never before seen Pokémon (probably coming from revived cut Pokémon hopefully)
some pokemons may have been cut while they were rough sketches,but some of the unknown designs could also possibly include early versions of pokemon (ie dragon4 which resembles charizard pretty closely,could have possibly been turned into the charizard we know today)
potentially also reusing atleast the concepts if not the pokemon directly in later generations (gen 2 sw97 prototype and gen 1 prototype ASSETS leak shows several cut gen1 mons returning,the electric tiger ball,baby meowth and some more,they did eventually get cut anyway though as we all know)
Trifox should have made it
So that’s why some of the Pokémon became Digimon and some of the Pokémon look like Digimon now
You should draw these descriptions
I’m using a Gorochu in the Kanto Expansion Pak. He’s so strong. Surf, Sing, Mega Kick, Thunderbolt
This has been done a billion times.
comvegent Magikarp og Converget Gayrados has still chance to be in DLC.
Nothing about Mega Jynx? The evidence for its planned existence is pretty strong
the little electric tiger getting deleted hurts me in ways i could never imagine being hurt game freak pLEASE BRING HIM BACK
wow we were supposed to have 300 pokemon but cause of gameboy's limitations it could only fit 151,understandable,I wonder if we've seen those other pokemon that never made it,it's been 25+ years so we gotta have seen at least some scrapped pokemon from gen 1 by now,but I know we've seen gen 2 and gen 3 scrapped pokemon from a few years ago,but how many of those gen 2 and gen 3 pokemon were from those gens? some of them most likely were from gen 1 in with the mix
They should keep them all.
I've heard that the reason why mega flygon got scrapped is because the fan-arts looked better
Kotora being cut TWICE hurts me so much ITS SO CUTE :(
I find the weirdest cut pokemon is bayleaf