The Cut Pokemon Of Generation 1
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TWO SLIGHT GOOFS IN THE BEGINNING.
Psyduck Evo and magnemite Evo are supposed to say MIDDLE EVOLUTION and NOT pre evolution.
Actually, it was originally 300 before it was cut down to 190 but only 151 was decided
@@ianhardy9375 250-300 planned originally, 190 made and put into the games code
@@kimolingo sounds about right
You should do cut pokemon for gen 2
@@ianhardy9375I will! :)
i want gorochu. WE WERE ROBBED.
Unless raichu gets a mega we ain’t getting it unfortunately.
They should have made it a Paradox mon. :/
A Pokemon x Mortal Combat crossover would be amazing, they're both fighting games, it could work.
@@misteral9045 we have pokken
Seriously. Gorochu looks dope as hell
Cubone and Marowak absolutely still deserve that final evo. It locks in the kanga connection, its a terrific design and it rounds out the line's "story" as it were
Agree
No, it makes absolutely no sense for cubone to have the skull already.... I think it's better thinking that the cubone marowak line is what happens when baby kangaskhan loses his mom too soon.
@@reitairue2073 agreed
@@reitairue2073 In fairness, the official backsprite might not even be carrying a baby, it certainly seems to have something going on - either very weird arm or carrying something - but it's impossible to make out if there is a baby. let alone if such a baby is wearing a skull. I do agree that that particular aspect of the fan art doesn't make sense but the actual pokemon itself seems really cool.
@@Slayerlord13 Okay fair, I was going off the fan art lol
I'm wondering if maybe the idea for Kotora and Raitora wasn't abandoned completely, instead becoming the basis for a bigger electric cat - Raikou.
They were probably cut the first time just for time or space or something and then revisited for Gen 2, but again cut once they conceptualized the legendary beasts
This is very possible!
They coexist with early Raikou in the gen 2 betas. Though Raikou looked different then.
They were in the gen 2 beta so they got shelved twice
this would also suggest that the legendary beast of gold silver and cristal might have had an evolution line beside the idea that they are effects of revived eeveelutions.
I love that early Pokemon had really creative names like Deer, Elephant, and Seel
At least we do got Persian and at least we do have a pokemon named Seel.
It was a shock for me, as a Portuguese speaking person, when I found out that Pokemon names were simply English or Japanese words.
@@GaryNacyes, the Pokémon still being named seel is the joke...
Tbf it sounds more exotic in Japan in the same way Shika, Zou and Azarashi sound unique to the west.
@@solentforest yeah but they have different names in Japan
I have always thought Gayoon became Tyranitar. It's supposed prevo has Larvitar vibes as well.
Absolutely, especially since Tyranitar is evocative of Godzilla as well
@@333PunkRock Tyranitar looks way more like Bemular from Ultraman than Godzilla.
Tyranitar is apparently based on an "official Fakemon" Junichi Masuda designed for a magazine article. He said that they weren't supposed to be any actual Pokemon but "maybe something from an alternate reality." One of them very obviously looks like Tyranitar though. Another one looks like Tirtouga, and was most likely the inspiration for it.
They said Gorochu got cut for balance reasons. Gen 1 does not have any 3rd stage electric types. Maybe they were worried that electric types were too powerful, or that Zapdos was enough.
Give the player access to an electric type for misty if they're lucky or if they get stuck griding viridian forest for Brock with a Charmander, so they don't get frustrated and quit at misty. Don't give them a grass type yet, that comes north of misty, assuming they grind, and we want the player to get a reduction in difficulty, not a change to easy mode.
Then don't teach them that it can evolve until stone evolutions are introduced with electric types at Surge. We also want the charmander trainers to get a weakness if they over leveled by the time they reach surge by ignoring the grass type and the electric type grinds.
You can get oddish or bellsprout above Cerulean without fighting Misty
@@MeanderingSlackerif you had to grind to beat misty you shouldn't be playing the game regardless who you started with .
@@bobbybobstar1496 The times were different in the 90's, the children were small and stupid. The only thing we knew was dragon go fire.
Are there any 3rd stage electric types in the entire game?
Gorochu would work really well as mega or form change. A regional variant of Raichu or a split evo could work to but it really does look like a upgrade/evo of Raichu.
I was thinking a regional variant that is Electric/Fighting type. Using it's powerful tail to fight with and explaining why Pikachu has a higher physical attack stat compared to the special stat.
I want him so much!
Megas, regional variants and the like are a crime against God. This is Pokémon, *not* Digimon. Repent.
Why do I like that Zubat pre evolution so much lol I'd call it "boobat"
Baby zubat!!
Zubat is my favorite early game flying type, I know what you're saying!
Wild to me they didn’t revisit Omega when they came up with the Paradox Pokemon. Just make it a robot Kangaskhan from the future and have its lore be that it was supposedly created to be a robotic nanny.
They kinda did with Iron Thorns
Those games are 26 years apart and even more considering that Gen 1 was in development years prior. The people working in scarlet and violet are not the same people who worked in gen 1
I think it was the main inspiration for Paradox Tyranitar.
Crocky? More like Cracky.
3:37 Magnemite rocking that BBL
Puchikoon’s name would’ve definitely needed reworking in the West 😂
Honestly I feel like we need this pokemon!!!
I just really dislike certain colors of people!!!
Coochiepoon
Kuchipoon... No wait, that's much worse.
I 100% clicked on this video under the assumption it was a list of Pokemon from Gen who could learn the HM 1 Cut.
I was pleasantly surprised
After rereading the title I see how you came to that conclusion.
I laughed out loud
same :(
Lol same
A tier list of that would be interesting
Smh. You really should work on your critical thinking
4:25 I highly doubt "Mikon" means "three fox barks" and I wonder where that translation is coming from..?
It's just the number of tails: three-tails, six-tails, nine-tails.
5:00 That's Gyopin not "jaiopin" - gyo means fish, not goldfish, and pin is pin.
7:35 "Gyaohn" not "Gayuhn". I wonder if it turned into Tyranitar?
Anyways, we can only hope we'll get more "leaks" in the future, because these designs are really intersting. I hope we'd see some of them make it someday.
No one asked
Bet bro took like a hour to type that but then got destroyed in seconds
@@StoneTheCr0w I asked.
"Kon" can be used as an onomatopoeia for the sound of a fox, though it's not really a bark per se. So the "Mi" can be goroawase reading of 3 and "Kon" would be a "fox bark" but I don't really think that's the intent.
@@RaphaelWiggumno you didn’t lol
I kind of like the idea of ponyta first being a normal horse. That then turns into fire type. It captures a unique sense of wonder. You see this regular horse that most people would and often do just walk by but for those who tame it are graced with a beautiful and 'rare' fire horse. I personally think that would have definitely make that evolution line stand out against all the other pokemon both back then and now.
edited like a true magician, such a shame some of these never made the cut when they looked so promising. FreeZeti, Kotora & the GOAT Crocky ofc
I so want Mikon and Konya as baby pokemon, they're so cute!
Ngl could make a whole new region and game out of scrapped pokemon
The name “Puchikoon” would’ve got millions of children sent to the principal’s office
Its the latanized japanese name, it likely would be called a different name if localized
More respect to the artists of Pokémon. Imagine making 200+ designs for them to cut over 50 of them.
Knowing wartortle was not intended to evolve into blastsoise makes so much sense. Even as a kid I always thought those two never made sense as an evolutionary line
What???😂
They made sense to me tbh
Hm...
@@truly_sonic7410 idk squirtle gets those ears and wavey things then just loses them for cannons ? Never made sense to me. Not to mention the head shape is completely different on blastoise compared to the other two.
Unpopular Opinion: I would rather have had Wartortle's original evolution building on the features it was growing instead of Blastoise.
I read from dr lava with newer translation that rhydon, lapras & clafairy are the first 3 pokemon ever designed & other sources that basically say pokemon were originally kaijus & more monster like
Dr.Lava has done an INCREDIBLE job in covering lost pokemon content, anything you read from him is very credible
9:36 Crocky? More like Cracky. Homie is wired
Barunda might later on having inspired Drifloon as well.
Kotora line is 100% in the game now.
Just look at the stripes on its back and compare those with the Litten line - exactly the same
Look at the tail and the stripes compared to the Litten line - exactly the same.
Lost weight and changed type
@@Venemofthe888 and changed big cat its based off
That concept art at 1:48 is straight up Fuecoco vs. Munkidori.... like seriously its frighteningly close.
I've seen some of these designs, of course, but never saw anything quite so well presented as this. I think about half of these were new to me, as well. I appreciate you putting this together!
Thank you so much! I'm very glad you enjoyed it!
Incredible how the art based on the Deer seems like a fusion of hitmonlee, kangaskhan, smearlgle, stantler...
I’m pretty sure Crocky has seen some sh!t!
Lol before I clicked on the video I for some reason thought it was going to be a video of all the gen 1 pokemon that could learn Cut. I'm faded
You must be really starved for content if you clicked for that reason lmao
@@stoopidapples1596 you have no idea.
[imagine a video here]
bulbasaur, ivysaur, venusaur, charmander, charmelon, charizard, beedrill, sandshrew, sandslash, oddish, gloom, vileplume, paras, parasect, diglett, dugtrio, bellsprout, weepinbell, victreebell, tentacool, tentacruel, farfetchd, krabby, kingler, lickitung, tangela, scyther, pinsir, kabutops, mew
@FissionCube is that really all the gen 1 pokemon who can learn cut? You really did that for me?
@xParaLyZe Blueboyphin has done an excellent job diving into Pokémon facts, definitely recommend checking his channel out!
Oh man, Dark Electric pikachu evolution would have been awesome! Imagine if Pikachu was like Eevee and had multiple final evolutions.
honestly even with these leaks im still surprised just the fact that gengar was the only planned ghost type.
Honestly i wouldve preferred if blastoise was its own line if i had to be honest since being the squirtle line ending with blastoise has always felt really weird and i wouldve loved to see wartortle’s ears and tails be more expanded since seeing it just turn into cat ears and a basic tail has been a bit dissapointing for me
also kottorra shouldve been in the game such a loss
It's because the gengar line was really supposed to be ghosts, and not necessarily a whole type.
Similar story with the dragon type. It was designed to be unique.
@@Ezullof Makes sense for gengar but honestly the dragon really did seem it was meant for some scrapped mons and even for others
There is one blurred out Pokémon that might’ve been Twinz, who appeared in the Gen 2 beta leak and are clearly ghosts (though it was Normal/Dark in the G/S beta, Dark didn’t exist in Gen 1 so it likely would’ve been a Ghost Type.)
It's worth looking in to Guaoon being reused as Tyranitar
Love the banjo Kazooie music, didn’t realize how much I needed the crossover of my two favorite franchises 🥲
I thought I was the only one who noticed 😂
I wish they would gradually bring these scrapped Pokémon back - new designs are cool and all, but restoring cut designs is awesome.
HAL Laboratory did it with a concept Meta Knight design, repurposing it for the character Morpho Knight.
So basically all of these could be brought in to modern gens instead of tea cups and food and stuff
I wish gorochu was in the games, I love it so much
Maybe the third evolution of the electric tiger was cut from Gen 2 because of Raikou, perhaps they cut the third evolution (and probably the entire line) because it would be too similar to Raikou.
Not ever getting Garochu still hurts me in my 30 year old bones
That thumbnail reminds me of one of those stroke simulation photos where everything looks eerily familiar but you can’t actually recognize anything
This is going on the list for best comments I've seen on my videos
That magnimite pre evolution better chill 😅😂🍑
Neat video, but good lord, the pronunciation of the names is painful
Oh no! Anyways
I love some of these old designs. They're adorable.
Kotora for Gen 11, you cowards!
Why 11 I want it for gen 10 lol
How good would a Pokémon game be set in an area populated by lost/requested Pokémon
Mikon (3)- Vulpix (6) - Ninetales(9)
Sad it really fits though
you know im starting to think , how cool would it have been , if Paradox pokemon werent pokemon from the past and future......rather pokemon from a different timeline that shouldnt exist , basically these cut pokemon. Wouldve been a nice gimmick.
as much as I wished we got 190 pokemon for gen 1,I know gameboy was very,very,very limited,Iso 'm thankful 151 was possible for a device that could barely hold that much memory,it does make me wonder what pokemon would be like if they managed to figure out to give us all 190 pokemon though,how much different would it be? would we still have the same pokemon from other gens or would they have been the ones that were cut? or what if they never scrapped or cut any pokemon? then how many would we have?
Crocky, more like cracky.
The more baby pokemon cut from the game the better imo.
These look way better than modern designs. If they’ve gotten so lazy then why not just use these. There were plenty good tossed ideas
womp womp
Sneaking a hidden Pokémon is clever mew is perfect in design. Not sure if others think it’s design holds up. But I still love it.
The raciebeep art is top notch. Really outstanding work.
These are better than most of the new designs.
Just letting you know Ultraman and Pokemon have a lot more in common than you think. the whole monster coming out of tiny object thing came from UltraSeven. the sequel series of Ultraman.
I wonder if Gyaoon and it's pre evolution became either larvitar and tyranitar. It also looks like nidoking and Nidoqueen too
Early designs of Politoed from the gen 2 scratchpads show a front sprite with a topknot and red cheeks like the two sumo frogs in the gen 1 beta. I'm guessing it was a blastoise-like situation where one line was cut because there was already a frog line. That said, I don't think any of their DNA survives in the current politoed design.
Since all mon were originally going to have three forms and we know some scrapped content was reworked and reused in later gens, I’m convinced that Ho-Oh is a rework for a Fearow evo. The head and giant wings are very similar.
My wife, who runs an Etsy shop where she makes plushies, got a request to make Raitora and Flambear. So if you look them up, you can own a physical version of a couple of these Pokémon
Not trying to be rude, but you mispronounced about half those names.
Not rude at all, multiple people have commented the same thing, constructive criticism is good, and i'll do my best to pronounce them right for gen 2!
Great video! This video has some tidbits ive never heard of. And great editing!
Thank you so much!
The Banjo Kazzooie music was a great choice on the editors part.
Konya is so baby, we were ROBBED
Likeable video for the sheer fact of providing sources in such thorough way!
Gorochu having been considered and designed but ultimately scrapped probably explains why that one person who wants to trade on Cinnabar Island says the Raichu you traded them evolved. It's kind of strange, having Pikachu evolve via Thunder Stone then Raichu into Gorochu via trade, but that dialogue was probably left in there by mistake as obviously, Raichu does not and has never evolved further and we instead later got Pichu, but what if? What if instead it went Pikachu, Raichu, Gorochu? That dialogue from the person on Cinnabar Island who wanted to trade saying the Raichu you traded them evolved would be telling the player that that's how you do it, and I don't recall any other NPC in Gen I saying how certain Pokemon evolve. And I remember being driven nuts by it. Why bother trying to catch and evolve more than one Pikachu except to trade Raichu to that person, only to have them tell you if speaking them to after the trade that it evolved and no matter what you try, the one you still have doesn't? It just doesn't. Infuriating. Oh, and don't get me started on Pikablu, which later turned out to be Marill. That's what for the longest time when Gen I was all we had that people first thought Raichu was supposed to have evolved into, even though it made no sense for it to have gone from Electric-type to Water-type, and then after Gen II was revealed but before it launched what Marill was supposed to have been called. Now, having learned about Gorochu, I don't dislike Pichu, they're actually cute, but we got robbed and the dialogue from that one NPC in Gen I drives me nuts all over again.
if we get gorochu the nerds who never evolve pikachu will cry, raichu ftw
No lie, I’d pay for it if it existed for sale, a book full of Ken sugimori gen 1 sketches. Unused and water color art.
11:03 my theory is they were supposed to be the prototype pokemon for poliwhirl and poliwrath
We need to cut most of the new Pokemon coming out. These non effort designs are unacceptable.
Atsuko couldn't have been more wrong. Taking a little, scrappy pokemon and watching it get stronger and better with time is one of the most satisfying things about the games.
More like magthickmite
I easily liked and subed for driving home that the amazing images are SPEULATIVE. Thank you! People spread these like they are fact, and while they are fun, this is inappropriate for providing of any information. I thank you for your respect to make sure viewers know.
Oh god, that Magnemite... talk about thunder thighs. yikes
they could make gorachu a past paradox pokemon of raichu which would be awesome
Need more shark Pokemon sharpedo and garchomp are the only ones😢
I remember as a kid my cousin trolling the early internet n printing out pages of supposed "cut out" pokemon from gen 1, n none of them are here 😂
Mewthree was real, world just isn't ready to hear about it
1 Like = A vote for Kotora to return in Gen 10...
...Or something better... 👀
I feel like Gorochu could be a split evolution of Pikachu. Could be like a special item or maybe even a new signature move that Pikachu learns. I'm thinking electric/dark typing fits it well 👍
Imagine Gorochu comes back in the next game /j
Honestly we're truly not in the best time line Kotora Raitora and the final form would've been amazing
Gyaoon - Tyranitar
Baroonda - Drifloon
11:08 - Politoed
12:25 - Tentacool/Tentacruel
Kotora - Raikou
If they expand on Paradox Pokemon in later gens it would be cool to see some of these designs brought back.
Jaggu beats sharpedo
So many baby stage pokemon didn't make it. what a shame.
oak the "professor" thought there were 150. he had no eye on history or even on the present
This guy's botches some of the Japanese names nuu
Is Crocky giving anyone else Dreepy vibes?
Retired developer for Gen 1, 2, and 3. (Dm me for proof)
The thunder dog evo line you showed was an alpha evolution of Raikou. The Growlithe and Arcanine evo line was an alpha of Entei. The Suicune evo line was never even thought about in gen 1.
Due to not only cart limitations but time constraints we were forced to cut a LOT for the final product resulting in Entei and Raikou being dismissed for gen 1.
Once gen 2 came around we saw the potential for them both. We had heavy conversations as to if we wanted to add a new evo for the pre existing evo lines or make something “special”. And we decided on a 3 dog legendary system! Hence why the last and most special design of Suicune was chosen as cover art.
So ya, we got Raikou but lost its pre evos, we lost Entei as an evo of Arcanine, but we got 3 legendary dogs and Gen 2 became a classic!
Im old and retired now but i do spend my days in the garden sketching some ideas for new pokemon!
Yeah, not gonna believe that without proof
Ken SSSHHHHugimori
Dude, Crocky looks more like Cracky to me xD
OH my god we NEED mikon and konya!!
What if every Gen had 1,000 unique species? Including scrapped Pokemon like Gorochu. Along with catchable Mythicals(which requires special items like the GS Ball and Azure Flute to encounter them). Had it not been for cartridge limitations. But the Pokedex always had a 150-Entry limit(Dunbar's Number; which is when a human brain can only remember 150 friends at once)? So that every player has a unique collection. Also if both the awards ceremonies and the Professor battles were unlocked after showing them our completed 150 Pokedexes? How'd the series have been like? How'd you all have liked it in that reality?
I always presumed cut Pokemon went extinct between planning and release. like what is happening to lapras.
8:13 That’s literally the Substitute 😳
I wish they'd make Gorochu a split evolution for Pikachu. Either have it be like an Electric/Dark type and evolve via Dusk Stone or evolve with an item during the night like Black Glasses or something.
honestly i have to wonder if the blastoise and wartortle are just beta back sprites they just look 2 much like the ones in the game especially the wartortle one
gorochu could have been mega-raichu in another timeline
Blastoise not being canon blows my mind..
Get it?
WE NEED KŌNYA HES SO CUTE😭😭
Need a Rom hack that puts them all back in