You can see his right arm bending backwards while in the running animation, farther than it should. It really sells them being half dead monsters held together by metal and wires. I never noticed that before.
The Brute singlehandedly changed what it meant to be a scary monster to me. The fact it's slightly faster than you AND the heavy hitter. The history behind how it came to be. Its psychologically demeaning sound. And it's horrifying mutilation.
I think that while they have the same running speed, brutes go into sprint faster than grunts. Grunts take a second or so to start running when they see you, just waddling at you at first, while brutes break into sprint right away. Though it might have to do with brute ai taking less time to pathfind due to them being in bigger areas in general. Nevermind, it was adressed lol.
the difference isn´t much and it depends on proximity if you are within somewhere around 2-3 Meters of them they will most often then not just walk towards you and start running after 2-3 seconds for the Grunt and a little bit less for the brute if they start running at all, the brute´s approach walk is also a wee bit faster if they spot you from further away and you actively increase the distance both will get in gear relatively quickly, as long as eye contact is maintained, if eye contact is lost within under a second or two they will likely just stagger in your general direction for a bit before giving up the only thing were the Brute outclasses the Grunt is the speed at which he breaks down doors and the damage he deals per swing, with his running attack doing the highest damage in the game, often resulting in instant death he also looks for you a couple seconds longer but that´s about it
I Had a moment in Amnesia where I got spotted by a brute in the open misty area, but the chase music didn't play, then he killed me in one blow and i screamed like a baboon.. This freaking thing was horrifying..
I always thought the metal bits resembled roman armour. Also wondered whether those pieces function as armour, or as means of holding bim together. He could just be a ravaged corpse barely held together by these. Also, the description of Professor Taylor, William Smith, and Doctor Tate, sounds very similar to what the Brute looks like. Maybe he’s a Shadow victim?
I didn't notice that before but it makes perfect sense why it has a flesh wound at its hamstrings. Because that's where the sharp end of their weapon is facing. Since the poor fvcker is forced to carry the weapon as an arm, it can't sheath it into something safe and sane.
Might be nostalgia but i like the monsters from dark decent more then some of the later ones, i think its how messed up they look, they look like they were hacked up and put back together again
Justine’s monster was pretty fucked up too, I just started playing it yesterday and DAMN is it scary. Reminds me heavily of Terry Akers because it hunts you by sound since it’s blind.
i played all 4 amnesia games for the first time when the bunker came out, i’m happy to say that nostalgia was not a factor in my preference for the dark descent
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lgSo it'd be a video of encounters with the Kaernk that cut to an untextured sphere in the middle of a grey void? Great idea for April Fools.
Ho daaaaaaaaamn! I never realised half of the head is missing! It's like someone ripped his face and then shoved some teeth and an eye for good measure!
Though I doubt this is really true, I have a long-standing theory that brutes are servants of the Shadow rather than Alexander's Gatherers. They kill prisoners, they're never seen around grunts, they're in all the areas most overtaken by the Shadow (which we've seen tear grunts apart) and, most damningly, their appearance is eerily similar to how Daniel in his journal describes the victims of the Shadow - 'limbs scattered, heads split down the middle, their skin flayed as if boiled'. While grunts look alive, brutes look like corpses that have been cobbled back together, perhaps piloted by something other than a human consciousness.
Reason this falls short imho is all the attachments present on the Brute. I don't think an cosmic horror would need to duct tape a creature back, just resurrect it rlly.
@@celeb-seventeen It would depend on what the Shadow could actually do with the bodies it resurrected. It's capable of destruction but we don't know if it's capable of 'healing'. I don't think the Shadow is all-powerful because it's so bad at doing its one job lol.
@@Safiyahalishah It is more than capable of resurrection if not, outright healing off all injuries. Case in point? Daniel. The world continues whenever he dies instead of simply "loading into a previous save" And even gives him a generous head-start if he were to get caught by it in the cells chase. What one job if I may ask tho?
@@celeb-seventeen If we count game design as part of the Shadow's influence, then sure, I can see where you're coming from. XD I personally don't, because a lot of games do this. _A Machine for Pigs,_ for example. Its one job is to protect the Orbs and, from the looks of it, 'avenge' them, or eliminate those who have used them. I also agree with the theory that the Shadow is using Daniel to achieve that goal, but again, that quite specifically fails to imply an all-powerful force. It took so long to reach Brennenburg, despite being drawn to the Orbs. When it finally arrived, you'd think it could just raze the castle to the ground, but it doesn't seem capable of that. If it would recruit one man it can't even communicate with, it's not so far-fetched to imagine that its will could raise the dead to achieve the same end. (I don't think it's a coincidence there were brutes wherever there were pieces of the Orb.)
@@Safiyahalishah Fair enough (idk much about AMFP or later Amnesia games and their respawn mechanics) but if it's just an standard video game save/load then yeah, they canonically weren't meant to die there, but in the Dark Descent, events change, monsters disappear, etc so Death in the Dark Descent has to be SOMETHING take into account. (Especially how Alexander wants to bank on Daniel giving up for him to die truly) if his servants have proven useless and didn't kill him (interestingly also bringing him to the cells)
The Amnesia series are some of my favourite games and I'm so glad there's a TH-cam channel showing off the models more in depth!! Thank you for taking time to show these 💛
6:25 didnt some of them die when the castle collapsed? cuz if i recall correctly the manpigs from a:mfp were based of from the servant grunts, there was a file in that game you could find were i believe they said they excavated the ruins of the castle and they found a body (believed to be from an servant grunt) and thats how they created the manpigs.
Did you know? I made a "Fixed" version of the Remastered Mod, available in the comments on the mod page. It aims to fix performance as well as graphical issues with the mod. There were a lot of things that needed fixed. However, it does look different in some aspects compared to the original, so it may not be for everyone. I'm releasing a small update to fix the radius of light sources :) They're way too large (all the lights in the mod are different compared to the original remastered mod)
5:10 I'd love to see a clip of that, first time hearing about that! Also it's really interesting who the Brute really is... since he was killed by the shadow it means he came in contact with the orb directly or indirectly. Was he one of Wilhelm's men or someone more significant?
Just a thought: The brute thats seen throughout the game is the transformed Wilhelm. Given that we only see one alone, its possible that only one exists...wilhelm. That large cleaver sword replacing its left arm? Just a stretch, but i believe that this is wilhelms sword or held weapon, and based on its position, he was left handed. When wilhelm transformed into the brute, he lost his left arm and his sword got fused as its replacement.
I never noticed that they run at the same speed as grunts, I guess the animation just made them look faster. Also there was a torn apart grunt (probably by the shadow) in the sewers, so maybe they were also immune to the fungi?
Couple things I wanted to add just because, -Brutes could be victims of The Shadow. Daniel in his journal entries explains the victims as dismembered, boiled skin, and heads split. -Idk if it is a glitch or not, but sometimes in the Choir two Brutes will spawn, suggesting there's at least two. -I like to think The Shadow did it cause I think it's cooler that way, but it's possible a Brute killed the dismembered Grunt in the Sewers. If this is the case, then there could be some sort of relationship, good or bad, between Grunts and Brutes.
yeah, I was pondering over these things for a long time as well, some of them I believe I can debunk with the information given in the games code, so for instance two Brutes in the Choir is not the intended result of the developers, they even left behind a message stating that the callbacks must be arranged in such a manner that there is only ever one Brute present Considering the Shadows involvement, I´m not quite sure, while some of their traits do align with Daniels descryptions, I think their appearance might be a manifestation of Daniels Trauma of witnessing the Victims, the Shadow is stated to bend reality and cause hallucinations so the adversarys hunting Daniel through the Castle assuming the appearance of the Victims of his past transgressions would align with the theme of Guilt the developers wanted to achieve originally further yet, Brutes often appear and disappear under peculiar circumstances and in oddly specific locations, much more so then their lesser counterparts, so chances are that they are in essence just regular Gatherers but as Daniels sanity dwindles as he descents and he begins to recall his past, his Guilt makes them appear more monstrous, more deformed and ultimately more dangerous At one point I want to pick up these topics again in a video, there is a lot to unpack in the Lore of Amnesia and a lot of subtle storytelling that does not immediately catch peoples eye, but I am quite glad that people still take a shine to these old stories
I can't believe I never realized this before, but the Brute's cleaver looks a lot like the hooked weapons used in the Middle Ages to pull riders from their horses. I think this is further evidence that the Brute is specifically designed to chase down intruders and escaped prisoners, with the hooked end of its blade meant to snag a target that's actively trying to run away.
I can't say I agree with the theory on who the brutes are. Heads split open, skin flayed as if boiled - this is the description of the victims of the Shadow. I also think the only evidence of the brutes being Alexander's servants is the fact they are stitched together with iron plating and a weapon. Their actions and common haunts really give the impression that, if anything, they are working against Alexander.
I always assumed the grunts carry their momentum more or are less agile during their run compared to the brutes, continuing to run forward while the player side steps etc.
I wish there were more things for you to look at in SOMA.. I really like your videos; but I really, *really* like SOMA. Makes me wish there were more characters/enemies.
Cowards Debt and The Great Work´s creators have specifically asked not to have their monsters used in other mods, I currently have no knowledge on whether this extends to exposition content and since it´s been quite a while I´m not sure if I can get that information I don´t want to test them tough and risk a copyright attack... I might be able to show of the In Lucy´s Eyes monster pack as that got released for public use quite a while ago, if that would be of interest I might include these when I´m done with all the mainline stuff or somewhere in between
@umukzusgelos4834 well, not saying you have to but, if playing the games themselves and basically doing the same thing by recording them, I'm sure showing the monsters and explaining lore isn't all too bad, I've seen video analysis on them too so, I'm sure it wouldn't really extend to that, but alright
Would you be willing to cover the monsters in Total Chaos? It's very similar in tone and gameplay to Frictional Games' esteemed library, sans physics-based interactions. The monsters have interesting designs and place in the lore.
@@umukzusgelos4834 either rot and wither away given that. gatherers seem to be walking corpses strung together or likely. if alexander/ayandra leaves the castle/dies they die due to the loss of his psychic control. as if i recall right. alexander seems to be the main force keeping the gatherers well. functional as physically. their bodies should be dead. this may explain why they died when the castle collapsed besides just well. the collapse of the castle
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The moment you hear the brute spawn, is also the moment your soul leaves your body.
The moment You hear Gregory spawn, is also the moment You started laughing.
You can see his right arm bending backwards while in the running animation, farther than it should. It really sells them being half dead monsters held together by metal and wires. I never noticed that before.
The Brute singlehandedly changed what it meant to be a scary monster to me.
The fact it's slightly faster than you AND the heavy hitter. The history behind how it came to be. Its psychologically demeaning sound. And it's horrifying mutilation.
also what helps add to the scare factor, you encounter the brutes in area with little to no items to help barricade and hide yourself with
@@spinozilla2421 The only thing Gregory want was a hug
It's the sound for me, it's always the sound
Always found it funny how the sounds of him we're made by a guy blowing into a pvc pipe lol
I think that while they have the same running speed, brutes go into sprint faster than grunts. Grunts take a second or so to start running when they see you, just waddling at you at first, while brutes break into sprint right away. Though it might have to do with brute ai taking less time to pathfind due to them being in bigger areas in general.
Nevermind, it was adressed lol.
the difference isn´t much and it depends on proximity
if you are within somewhere around 2-3 Meters of them they will most often then not just walk towards you and start running after 2-3 seconds for the Grunt and a little bit less for the brute if they start running at all, the brute´s approach walk is also a wee bit faster
if they spot you from further away and you actively increase the distance both will get in gear relatively quickly, as long as eye contact is maintained, if eye contact is lost within under a second or two they will likely just stagger in your general direction for a bit before giving up
the only thing were the Brute outclasses the Grunt is the speed at which he breaks down doors and the damage he deals per swing, with his running attack doing the highest damage in the game, often resulting in instant death
he also looks for you a couple seconds longer but that´s about it
@@umukzusgelos4834 you should do the monsters from the recently new horror game on steam called surrounded, created by nightmare studios.
I Had a moment in Amnesia where I got spotted by a brute in the open misty area, but the chase music didn't play, then he killed me in one blow and i screamed like a baboon.. This freaking thing was horrifying..
BTW the apron shape of metal on the Brute suggests he's also a butcher of some sort. He fits the part.
I always thought the metal bits resembled roman armour. Also wondered whether those pieces function as armour, or as means of holding bim together. He could just be a ravaged corpse barely held together by these. Also, the description of Professor Taylor, William Smith, and Doctor Tate, sounds very similar to what the Brute looks like. Maybe he’s a Shadow victim?
2:25 Jesus Christ, I would shit myself fifteen times if I ever tried sneaking past a Brute like that. Fucking balls of steel.
I didn't notice that before but it makes perfect sense why it has a flesh wound at its hamstrings. Because that's where the sharp end of their weapon is facing. Since the poor fvcker is forced to carry the weapon as an arm, it can't sheath it into something safe and sane.
Mark gave the Servant Brute a fitting nickname "The Mooseman" and not gonna lie it fits him. Because he does sound like a Moose every time he roars.
To me it always reminded me of a cow or bull going, “Moooooooooaaarrrr” 😂
Might be nostalgia but i like the monsters from dark decent more then some of the later ones, i think its how messed up they look, they look like they were hacked up and put back together again
Someone didn't play Soma
@@lazyvoid7107 i meant the other games with Amnesia in the name, but your right the monsters in Soma look quite fucked up as well
Justine’s monster was pretty fucked up too, I just started playing it yesterday and DAMN is it scary. Reminds me heavily of Terry Akers because it hunts you by sound since it’s blind.
i played all 4 amnesia games for the first time when the bunker came out, i’m happy to say that nostalgia was not a factor in my preference for the dark descent
Nah, Amnesia Bunker has a fantastic design
I think the Brute is a victim of the Shadow that was somehow put back together by Alexander
Can't wait for the Video on the Kaernk!
. . . Oh... right...
Technically the Kaernk does have a model.
Granted, it's just an untextured sphere.
@@MiguelHernandez-lo5lgSo it'd be a video of encounters with the Kaernk that cut to an untextured sphere in the middle of a grey void? Great idea for April Fools.
well, well... it would seem you might get your wish after all in couple of weeks...
Ho daaaaaaaaamn! I never realised half of the head is missing! It's like someone ripped his face and then shoved some teeth and an eye for good measure!
Though I doubt this is really true, I have a long-standing theory that brutes are servants of the Shadow rather than Alexander's Gatherers. They kill prisoners, they're never seen around grunts, they're in all the areas most overtaken by the Shadow (which we've seen tear grunts apart) and, most damningly, their appearance is eerily similar to how Daniel in his journal describes the victims of the Shadow - 'limbs scattered, heads split down the middle, their skin flayed as if boiled'. While grunts look alive, brutes look like corpses that have been cobbled back together, perhaps piloted by something other than a human consciousness.
Reason this falls short imho is all the attachments present on the Brute. I don't think an cosmic horror would need to duct tape a creature back, just resurrect it rlly.
@@celeb-seventeen It would depend on what the Shadow could actually do with the bodies it resurrected. It's capable of destruction but we don't know if it's capable of 'healing'. I don't think the Shadow is all-powerful because it's so bad at doing its one job lol.
@@Safiyahalishah It is more than capable of resurrection if not, outright healing off all injuries. Case in point? Daniel. The world continues whenever he dies instead of simply "loading into a previous save" And even gives him a generous head-start if he were to get caught by it in the cells chase. What one job if I may ask tho?
@@celeb-seventeen If we count game design as part of the Shadow's influence, then sure, I can see where you're coming from. XD I personally don't, because a lot of games do this. _A Machine for Pigs,_ for example.
Its one job is to protect the Orbs and, from the looks of it, 'avenge' them, or eliminate those who have used them. I also agree with the theory that the Shadow is using Daniel to achieve that goal, but again, that quite specifically fails to imply an all-powerful force. It took so long to reach Brennenburg, despite being drawn to the Orbs. When it finally arrived, you'd think it could just raze the castle to the ground, but it doesn't seem capable of that. If it would recruit one man it can't even communicate with, it's not so far-fetched to imagine that its will could raise the dead to achieve the same end. (I don't think it's a coincidence there were brutes wherever there were pieces of the Orb.)
@@Safiyahalishah Fair enough (idk much about AMFP or later Amnesia games and their respawn mechanics) but if it's just an standard video game save/load then yeah, they canonically weren't meant to die there, but in the Dark Descent, events change, monsters disappear, etc so Death in the Dark Descent has to be SOMETHING take into account. (Especially how Alexander wants to bank on Daniel giving up for him to die truly) if his servants have proven useless and didn't kill him (interestingly also bringing him to the cells)
6:23 I think they just found a job chopping wood and preparing meat and dishes in a village nearby. Country folk are not judgemental.
"hoooooo m'y god they are terrifying!!!
-yes but they are cheap. And they are still better conversation than mi wife"
"Country folk are not judgememtal"
Also country folk when they see gay people/people from other countries/people of different skin color: 💀
Oh do not forget, we are talking about Prussia in the 1830s
your videos are s tier man
That´s a huge compliment, glad you enjoy
@@umukzusgelos4834 😇
They have this dark medieval feel that I love about them but I can’t point my finger why I get the feeling
I'm looking forward to your Machine for Pigs monster videos.
So do I, there is so much stuff to address with that Game
it´s a shame so few people talk about it these days
another "A closer look at ___" upload is a good day
This is the one I was most hyped about thank you homie
Was waiting for this one, didnt disappoint
Glad to Hear
The Amnesia series are some of my favourite games and I'm so glad there's a TH-cam channel showing off the models more in depth!! Thank you for taking time to show these 💛
Most underrated monster ever, like I swear.
6:25 didnt some of them die when the castle collapsed? cuz if i recall correctly the manpigs from a:mfp were based of from the servant grunts, there was a file in that game you could find were i believe they said they excavated the ruins of the castle and they found a body (believed to be from an servant grunt) and thats how they created the manpigs.
Indeed, I believe I addressed this further along in the video if I remember correctly
Did you know?
I made a "Fixed" version of the Remastered Mod, available in the comments on the mod page. It aims to fix performance as well as graphical issues with the mod. There were a lot of things that needed fixed.
However, it does look different in some aspects compared to the original, so it may not be for everyone.
I'm releasing a small update to fix the radius of light sources :) They're way too large (all the lights in the mod are different compared to the original remastered mod)
Interesting
@@umukzusgelos4834 I have just released the new update minutes ago
They need a whole game with just them tbh.
5:10 I'd love to see a clip of that, first time hearing about that! Also it's really interesting who the Brute really is... since he was killed by the shadow it means he came in contact with the orb directly or indirectly. Was he one of Wilhelm's men or someone more significant?
Just a thought:
The brute thats seen throughout the game is the transformed Wilhelm. Given that we only see one alone, its possible that only one exists...wilhelm.
That large cleaver sword replacing its left arm? Just a stretch, but i believe that this is wilhelms sword or held weapon, and based on its position, he was left handed.
When wilhelm transformed into the brute, he lost his left arm and his sword got fused as its replacement.
Not a comforting thought having your arm replaced by a massive cleaver fused into the bone, that’s why the brute in particular scares me so much
I never noticed that they run at the same speed as grunts, I guess the animation just made them look faster. Also there was a torn apart grunt (probably by the shadow) in the sewers, so maybe they were also immune to the fungi?
chances are, they received Alexander Vaccine which he made to combat the poisonous Fungi
Couple things I wanted to add just because,
-Brutes could be victims of The Shadow. Daniel in his journal entries explains the victims as dismembered, boiled skin, and heads split.
-Idk if it is a glitch or not, but sometimes in the Choir two Brutes will spawn, suggesting there's at least two.
-I like to think The Shadow did it cause I think it's cooler that way, but it's possible a Brute killed the dismembered Grunt in the Sewers. If this is the case, then there could be some sort of relationship, good or bad, between Grunts and Brutes.
yeah, I was pondering over these things for a long time as well, some of them I believe I can debunk with the information given in the games code, so for instance two Brutes in the Choir is not the intended result of the developers, they even left behind a message stating that the callbacks must be arranged in such a manner that there is only ever one Brute present
Considering the Shadows involvement, I´m not quite sure, while some of their traits do align with Daniels descryptions, I think their appearance might be a manifestation of Daniels Trauma of witnessing the Victims, the Shadow is stated to bend reality and cause hallucinations so the adversarys hunting Daniel through the Castle assuming the appearance of the Victims of his past transgressions would align with the theme of Guilt the developers wanted to achieve originally
further yet, Brutes often appear and disappear under peculiar circumstances and in oddly specific locations, much more so then their lesser counterparts, so chances are that they are in essence just regular Gatherers but as Daniels sanity dwindles as he descents and he begins to recall his past, his Guilt makes them appear more monstrous, more deformed and ultimately more dangerous
At one point I want to pick up these topics again in a video, there is a lot to unpack in the Lore of Amnesia and a lot of subtle storytelling that does not immediately catch peoples eye, but I am quite glad that people still take a shine to these old stories
One is at the sewer area and there are at least two more of them in the Choir, the big open foggy area below
I can't believe I never realized this before, but the Brute's cleaver looks a lot like the hooked weapons used in the Middle Ages to pull riders from their horses. I think this is further evidence that the Brute is specifically designed to chase down intruders and escaped prisoners, with the hooked end of its blade meant to snag a target that's actively trying to run away.
the first time i played i just sprinted everywhere and it worked perfect lol
Amazing
Keep it up!
I can't say I agree with the theory on who the brutes are. Heads split open, skin flayed as if boiled - this is the description of the victims of the Shadow.
I also think the only evidence of the brutes being Alexander's servants is the fact they are stitched together with iron plating and a weapon. Their actions and common haunts really give the impression that, if anything, they are working against Alexander.
I have addressed this topic again is my latest video if you are interested:
th-cam.com/video/DRS6ZMpsviI/w-d-xo.html
I always assumed the grunts carry their momentum more or are less agile during their run compared to the brutes, continuing to run forward while the player side steps etc.
oh man, I wished for an answer if you knew if that's true or not
Think you'll cover the shadow?
Maybe at one point
Wait does the brute have 1 eye in its mouth?
Also great vid!
Thank you
I wish there were more things for you to look at in SOMA.. I really like your videos; but I really, *really* like SOMA. Makes me wish there were more characters/enemies.
fret not there will be some more SOMA videos
Awesome.
He looks like his face got caught in a mixer
So The Gatherers are also Ghouls but reanimated and controlled by Alexander?
I think they can be seen as their own thing and might be closer related to the Manpigs
however the method to create them shows similarities
Can you make videos of monsters from Custom Stories like The Great Work, and A Cowards Debt?
They were copyrighted so probably not
Cowards Debt and The Great Work´s creators have specifically asked not to have their monsters used in other mods, I currently have no knowledge on whether this extends to exposition content and since it´s been quite a while I´m not sure if I can get that information
I don´t want to test them tough and risk a copyright attack...
I might be able to show of the In Lucy´s Eyes monster pack as that got released for public use quite a while ago,
if that would be of interest I might include these when I´m done with all the mainline stuff or somewhere in between
@umukzusgelos4834 well, not saying you have to but, if playing the games themselves and basically doing the same thing by recording them, I'm sure showing the monsters and explaining lore isn't all too bad, I've seen video analysis on them too so, I'm sure it wouldn't really extend to that, but alright
@@RedDundancy I see, well perhaps we will have a development at some point
@@umukzusgelos4834also.. are you the guy from Radidshs streams on Twitch, or his TH-cam channel? I feel like I recognize you from somewhere
Would you be willing to cover the monsters in Total Chaos? It's very similar in tone and gameplay to Frictional Games' esteemed library, sans physics-based interactions. The monsters have interesting designs and place in the lore.
I don´t have the software for that
If the gatherers survived after the collapse they would die of old age because they are still human
debatable I´d say
@@umukzusgelos4834 either rot and wither away given that. gatherers seem to be walking corpses strung together or likely. if alexander/ayandra leaves the castle/dies they die due to the loss of his psychic control. as if i recall right. alexander seems to be the main force keeping the gatherers well. functional as physically. their bodies should be dead. this may explain why they died when the castle collapsed besides just well. the collapse of the castle
Are you going to do a video about the Suitor/Suitors that appear in Amnesia: Justine DLC?
Oh yes, it´s gonna be there next week
@@umukzusgelos4834 Im eagerly waiting for it
👍🏼
Hey don’t mean to be an ass but I think there’s a typo at 3:19.
You likely mean where instead of were
another day, another typo it seems
It´s been a while since my last english class, heh
@@umukzusgelos4834 again I don’t mean to be the personification of 🤓 spare me pls
@@haydenTenno- Oh, I didn´t take it that way
Hey! It's Gregory!
It was a *heavy* day for him.