For the first 20 seconds I actually believed that it was from a tape from the 80s. Only when he said "drop a comment" I thought "wait, what?", but my mind was still trying to make sense of what that meant 40 years ago It took another 10 seconds to wake up completely to what I was actually watching. This was awesome!
I've compared my Muse with the Behringer model D, and in most cases it does get pretty close. The biggest difference is in the filter, which opens up a bit farther on the Model D. Besides that, I think Muse can do monosynth stuff really well if you need it to. But then you can push the button and it turn it into a polysynth.. which is awesome :)
!!! Okay so I have the Behringer model as well! I agree with you. I did prefer the moog versions for many things but an unexpected one is that the moog has a VTrig input. Behringer uses the filter gate but they respond differently! Props also for the Behringer model d overdrive… has a unique sound
I’ll play! Model D: 1B, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6A, 7A, 8B A couple I’m not sure about. Feel like the dodgy tuning in 4B was a red herring. Looking forward to the results.
There's nothing else that looks and feels like the Minimoog. As far as the sounds go, all synthesizers capable of producing square/sawtooth/triangle/white noise and sine wave by collapsing these waves with lowpass filter, most synthesizers sound roughly the same. Same like most electric basses sound roughly the same.
While they can do similar stuff, they aren't really interchangable as far as experience goes. If you want the D, go for that one. It's unique little synth and nothing else sounds quite like it. If you just want something that sounds like a moog and offers you a universe of sounds and programmability: that's the Muse.
The comparison that I would like to see is Matriarch and the Model D. I have the muse and sold the Model D reissue for buying a Matriarch as I feel with its Patch points and analog delay opens another dimension Model D can't. I have only found oscillator comparisons, prefer way better actual sound comparisons. Great work. Thanks
1a- model D, 1b - muse 2a - muse 2b - model d(this one is close) 3a - model d - 3a - Muse 4a - muse 4b - model d 5a model d - 5b - muse 6a - muse 6b - model d 7a - model d 7b - muse 8a - muse 8b - model d Model d sounds brighter, more raw, and more low end.
B sounds snappier and fatter then A. Based on the fact that the muse is built around the voyager architecture my guess is that A is the Muse and B the Model D!
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. Detuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all! Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!! Forget about actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are. Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products for example .. and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks. Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me. Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
VIEW ANSWERS ON FOLLOW UP VIDEO: th-cam.com/video/iY6x_mkT6ss/w-d-xo.html
For the first 20 seconds I actually believed that it was from a tape from the 80s. Only when he said "drop a comment" I thought "wait, what?", but my mind was still trying to make sense of what that meant 40 years ago It took another 10 seconds to wake up completely to what I was actually watching. This was awesome!
Wait, it’s not the 80s? 😿😸
No it is, to me
Been waiting for this. Good job 👍
well done comparison patches (patch 8 was quite different but the rest were pretty bang on). very nice.
They both sound awesome, fact, - need them both too! ❤
quickly becoming my favorite synth channel
Great video brother
I've compared my Muse with the Behringer model D, and in most cases it does get pretty close. The biggest difference is in the filter, which opens up a bit farther on the Model D. Besides that, I think Muse can do monosynth stuff really well if you need it to. But then you can push the button and it turn it into a polysynth.. which is awesome :)
!!! Okay so I have the Behringer model as well! I agree with you. I did prefer the moog versions for many things but an unexpected one is that the moog has a VTrig input. Behringer uses the filter gate but they respond differently!
Props also for the Behringer model d overdrive… has a unique sound
The part that actually tricked me into briefly thinking it was an actual VHS from the 80s was that he isnt overweight.
I’ll play!
Model D: 1B, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6A, 7A, 8B
A couple I’m not sure about. Feel like the dodgy tuning in 4B was a red herring.
Looking forward to the results.
There's nothing else that looks and feels like the Minimoog. As far as the sounds go, all synthesizers capable of producing square/sawtooth/triangle/white noise and sine wave by collapsing these waves with lowpass filter, most synthesizers sound roughly the same. Same like most electric basses sound roughly the same.
I look forward to the solution!!!.
I am hesitating between buying the Muse or the Model D
While they can do similar stuff, they aren't really interchangable as far as experience goes. If you want the D, go for that one. It's unique little synth and nothing else sounds quite like it. If you just want something that sounds like a moog and offers you a universe of sounds and programmability: that's the Muse.
@@payt01 👌, Thanks!
Unless you’re stuck in the past by the muse. That’s coming from someone who owns a model d.
The comparison that I would like to see is Matriarch and the Model D. I have the muse and sold the Model D reissue for buying a Matriarch as I feel with its Patch points and analog delay opens another dimension Model D can't. I have only found oscillator comparisons, prefer way better actual sound comparisons. Great work. Thanks
Is the matriarch polyphonic?
Does it also have pwm :) ?
@@AllenMichael It's paraphonic (4 oscs) and it does have PWM.
@@AllenMichael paraphonic. But it strives as a mono.
@adrianmuller4189: Here‘s a video from a guy that compares Muse vs. Matriarch: th-cam.com/video/W4396_xG48U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NuJG36OoU6oVHHv0
Would love to see a classic Memorymoog vs Muse comparison. MM should be a great benchmark for poly Moog sound, imho.
@@Sonikbytes yeah! I don’t own a memory moog :( would love too!
My guess is is model D is 1B, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5B, 6B. 7B, 8B. It’s all very close though! If all the letters are one synth I’ll go with B for the model D.
I think based on the answers given here we can conclude that on the whole people can't reliably tell the difference.
B is the Muse, at least in most of them. Me thinks
A is Model D and B is Muse
If the letters don't stand for the same unit that gets confusing.
@@davlippo7 they are different!
1a- model D, 1b - muse
2a - muse 2b - model d(this one is close)
3a - model d - 3a - Muse
4a - muse 4b - model d
5a model d - 5b - muse
6a - muse 6b - model d
7a - model d 7b - muse
8a - muse 8b - model d
Model d sounds brighter, more raw, and more low end.
I think you nailed it.
How did you get this video look?
Ok hit us with the answers we're ready baby.
Model D: 1B, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6B, 7B, 8B.
Mooooooog
I try: Muse in 1A 2B 3A 4A 5B 6A 7A 8A
Agreed, except for 4. Where are the answers?
Audio too good
B sounds snappier and fatter then A. Based on the fact that the muse is built around the voyager architecture my guess is that A is the Muse and B the Model D!
I agree with this
@@justaregularrobloxplayer5678letter change for both synths. 😅
Dig the Sony Betamax look
The colors are awesome!
Minimoog = 1B, 2A, 3B, 4A, 5A, 6B, 7B, 8B
Minimoog: 1b, 2a, 3b, 4a, 5a, 6b, 7a, 8b.
Agreed, except for 7. Where are the answers?
I bought this Moog Muse, was crazy about it and here comes the thing: Unfortunately, "Moog Muse" has terribly disappointed me.. To turn on this keyboard it takes more than a minute (!).. Functions do not work properly, lights go on and off quickly and without meaning. The speed of the envelope generators is WAY too slow.. Chords played faster produce unwanted fast arpeggios. I tested everything and even the new software (1.2) did not fix these serious bugs, so I have to warn about it.. Detuning is a big problem, even the tuning function does not work. The keyboard froze even after programming faster sequences.. The overall sound was thin and not as fat as my old Moog products (Mini Moog, Memory Moog). My impression: This instrument is too digitally controlled inside by very slow and in the worst case... often incomplete processing. I returned the Moog Muse to the seller and I have to say, there is something very wrong with this new Moog and it doesn't sound like a typical Moog at all!
Too many other synths sound fuller, richer and faster (envelope generators) and the filter here doesn't do what it promises!!
Forget about actual "Moog" products. They are not what they promise and what they say they are.
Direct comparison with my old Sequential Circuit products for example .. and many intensive tests finally opened my eyes after many hours, folks.
Wake up... and stop believing in any advertisement for Moog... I'm sorry for all of you who fell into this trap like me.
Sooner or later you will confirm what I am writing here.
You can clearly hear that it's made in Taiwan. But at least it's better than the made in China before.
p.s. what does the velocity do
How hard is it to replicate a sound that just uses very basic waveforms? Not hard. Especially if they have the same filter.