Testing the effectiveness of Snow Camo
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- We had a fun day of testing the effectiveness of different camouflage patterns in snow environment.
M05 winter camo was supplied by @varusteleka
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love the scenes where you let us try to spot you shows how well it works quite effectively
We were all baffled on how well it works when we were editing the video - it really surprised us 😅
@@PolenarTactical Varusteleka did release a white version of their PC and all normal pouches in the snow m05 camo.
@PolenarTactical 7:44 that shows how well design it is.
During my service I was looking at platoon marching in the woods and sneezed. Took me almost a while to find them again.
@@PolenarTactical dang lol
On the road shots you could use the Finnish army trick of summer woodland M05 jacket + M05 snow camo pants. That way your legs are blending to the snow on the ground and from waist up you are blending to the trees that have little to no snow.
Works very well when viewed from a distance.
Mixing camo types works fairly well in pretty much any environment, as long as the different patterns are generally appropriate.
Just was about to tell the same that 20 years ago that was already a thing. Plus ofc using local materials to fit in even more.
I would use the cold weather jacket over the summer jacket in this scenario
@@JohnTavastianyou would get heat stroke if you use cold weather jacket in battle
@@Tumppi88 you gotta slow down with it 😂
Everyone knows that when a Finnish sniper spots you, you are ‘finished’.
I'm disappointed..... More in myself for laughing than in you for making that joke...
I don't know if I wanna slap my knee or you face for making me laugh
*finnished?
Of course the famous White Death Simo Häyhä Suomi sniper versus the USSR in WW2.
@@ddawg7567 lol
The pattern of the hat is named pakkaskuvio. Meaning frost or freezing pattern. It is meant to be used exactly how you described the mixing of camos. We can have snow camo on depending of environment or the frost pattern for foresty thawing areas
Playing "Find the Camo soldier in the picture" was good fun :)
good to hear :D
In Norwegian army we very often wore white camo on the legs and not on the upper body. We found this to work well in mixed snow/forest environment, and reduced inconveniences and overheating.
I remember the winter of 2010 when I was in the Finnish army and we used the m05 winter camo. When we were walking to the shooting range it started to snow and it was almost impossible to spot the guys walking ON THE ROAD ~50m in front of me. Couple a little snowfall with the very limited daylight hours finland has during the winter and you get yourself an extremely potent camo pattern.
Late springtime we used only snowpant coverall in finnish army, because there was snow only on the ground. All the foliage, trees and other stuff were completely snowless, so best performing combo was using normal m05 pattern on top, and using snow coveralls for the legs. Of course the snow coverall jacket was there with you, if needed for the mission. Served in recon unit so blending in for the mission was always part of preparation.
Sissihonor
here in estonia during some times of winter we wear snow camo pants and woodland camo tops so when youre standing or crouching your legs blend into the snow and your top blends in with the trees
yeah we do that in FDF too
The full snow camo is mainly for mid-winter, especially further to the north where the trees are also covered in snow. More often than not you only use the pants.
When Ziga was practicing his shoulder rolls in the snow, all I could picture is him continuing to roll, accumulate snow, turn into a giant snowball, and blasting through a wall at the bottom of the hill like the KoolAid guy. "OH yeah! Tactical snowball entry FTW!" 😂
Polenar team, I know you can make this happen.
IT'S ZIGGIN TIME!
Hope he next time doesnt stuff his barrel full of snow even if it is a airsoft gun.
0:12 Man down! Man down!
Yup..he totally dumped it!
😂@@WBjag1234
Manca in this white pants just make my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In Alaska the Native scouts where white pants and a camo top. Really blends with the tree line.
Same in Finland. As spring arrives trees and foliage lose snow first, so we use this winter camo for pants and summer camp for top. Works great 👍
Use white camo pant’s. Upper body regular uniform/camo . Snow on ground but not in trees/ backround
Besides the straight Snow camo head to toe, the Finns also use the Snow trousers/ bottoms and their Woodland top/ blouse in combination, also works very well for diffusion/ profile breakup in principle and application.
I really like the M05 Snow camo but I wish it had Brown speckled in with the Gray, that would be nearly perfect then, alteration as needed is easy enough though.
The Gear Aid brand self-adhering Fabric camo wrap work exceptionally well and matches the M05 Snow pattern extremely well (i've done a video with it and a home-made Snow camo system, my area is very similar to Finland in Winter).
Pencott made an amazing camo called SnowDrift but i can't find it anywhere in stock anymore :/
@@PolenarTactical I remember that one!!! Yeah they discontinued it sadly, worked really well too.
What you can do is take some plain over whites, then use camo netting and just speckle brown from spraypaint/ rattle can randomly over it, that works exceptionally well and saves a lot of money too.
@@PolenarTactical I made several snow Ghillies with Snowdrift strips of pinking shear-cut fabric. It’s perfect for snow-covered plains with the light tan hints of underbrush in the US high desert/hills and barren landscapes in the winter that get a lot of snow. Finland has way more green due to the heavy forrest. M05 and Danish snow camo work very well in Europe.
just get it dirty
@@LRRPFco52 Works well in the North Midwest, North Eastern Seaboard, and places like the Rockies and Alaska too.
Those camo test were really nice. Movement is easy to spot in close but add distance and things arent that simple.
Add some wind to move trees and maybe snowfall and only two things you will spot are named as Jack and Shit.
Could see more videos like this how camo patterns works and how to hide man in plain sight.
This video was great, amazing how you can seemingly disappear once you stand still.
This was very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
That's nice to hear. Thanks for taking the time to write a comment - it's a small thing but engagement really helps with the YT algorithm :)
@@PolenarTactical Comment for the algorithm, like for the video,
Ah yes, "spot the sniper" scenes. :) Well filmed, despite a few hiccups.
Awesome trick with the tape. Works like a charm.
**The snow star speaking Finnish**
Soviet: _my time has come_
Nice, very intresting video. There are a lot of intresting patterns of camuflages 🤩🤩
I like the combination of having M05 winter lower and M05 woodland upper. Snow is white and trees are green🤙
I always feel like camo really shines when you see it at a distance. Up close, some of the shots were wicked in how well it blends and others pretty obvious. Back up like 30-40 yards and you're invisible.
I'd do a gag video of "landscapes" and camo
You can also use military poncho raincoat with desired camouflage pattern on it but it won't cover your legs. Also works great to camouflage a shelter, tent, equipment since it's waterproof. It's lightweight too.
I have recently seen a Norwegian force doing some NATO connected drill, and they had dark woodland type camo for the upper body, and snow camo for the pants, which blends really well in boreal forests.
And was also kinda stylish.
What I discovered in airsoft of all things
when there is snow on the ground = just plain white pants and camo jacket of your choice works like you would not belive
if you want to to even beyond, even plain white pants with ghillie green top give you almost 100% camo in a winter forrest where there is snow on the ground and the the "background" is more green than white
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Those loose overgarments also help break up human shape. What I really noticed is that movement outside of concealment really gives you away. Camo is helpful, but it's not an invisibility cloak.
I really liked your weapon camo. Wrap and bits of tape is my go-to for rifle camo--speaking of which, would you consider a compare/contrast video of tape and paint for weapon camo?
Movement is the problem. It's really easy to lie still with camo and facepaint. But creeping closer, thats the hard part. I served in Finnish long range recon unit, and our job was to be invisible. I can't even explain how carefully slow you have to move to remain hidden. Human eye is excellent for spotting movement.
@@johanneskoskela384 Fighting the urge to speed up just a bit must be overwhelming at times...
The classic german and swiss flecktarn are great examples of cammo that doesnt look like it will work but yet it completely disappears out in the field.
An excellent snow camo demo video. I could hardly see anyone in it. Well done!
Love y'all's stuff the comedic relief makes it top tier
This should be in every video. Spot the guy in camo hidden in a random scene. Could push up interaction too with people going through looking for them and posting in the comments.
That "hello" at 0:20 is so cute ❤😂
Great video. Effective camouflage of humor in a good informational video.
I've been loving the longer form content recently.
this is where the three stripe slings shine!
the main giveaway of camo is movement because everything else is still. but this is super cool
In the army we simulated "winter camo" always by turning the clothes insideout when there was fresh snowfall. Like my year was a wet black winter with snow only staying for a few days until it melted again....
Very well done, without falling into tacti-cool mode. Thank you!
You guys should do a video with the phantom leaf camouflage patterns. Some people claim their photos are doctored but their patterns seem extremely effective!
Na... Phantomleaf doesn't doctor their pics because it would ruin their rep. Some shops/companies crank up the saturation in the pics of all camos they sell to make them look more appealing.
@@PineSurvey I own several articles with the Z3A pattern and believe the pattern is amazing. Before purchasing though I saw people making such claims.
On a side note I read through the Pine Survey article/review on phantom leaf before buying, nice job!
@@MrBlargeddy thx! much appreciated!
I think Finnish camo is just looking lovely. It always tripped me up seeing someone kust moving when I thought there was no-one in the background
The Finnish m05 camo has been optimized to decieve the eye. And camo combining is usual for example spring winter. Snow on the ground so need snow camo pants and summer or cold climate top. We usually wore gear over
0:09 "Is doing a really good job" -> stumbles out of nowhere 😀
I've been told that turning the M05 uniform inside out for winter is an intentional part of the design.
It does absorb water like these guys absorb alcohol, so its not ideal for lying in snow, but I guess it works in a pinch.
Shape, Shine, Silhouette, Shadow, and Movement.
bro tripped in the last frame in the intro
Lol.. love your humor… love your technical assessment!
Been looking for some M05 snow pants for awhile haha effective camouflage it seems
M05 was made with tens of thousands of pictures taken all over finnish forests in different seasons and I think an AI assisted was used to generate pattern based on tones and how much of it is usually around. It wasn't trademarked or protected because you would have to submit the design entirely and there were concerns the data would leak. I would imagine every year the pattern is regenerated and compared to M05 until the environment has changed enough to push the move to a new pattern. (Global warming for example would change that winters are less snowy)
Well I think around 2010's something the pattern was copied and sold, FDF wasn't able to sue because they didn't protect the pattern, thus now it is all over on varusteleka on different kind gear.
1/504th PIR 82nd Airborne US Army here (Ret.). We would routinely reverse our uniforms in light snow if we were not issued winter white covers. The blue-ish hue was not perfect but it was far better than the dark woodland pattern.
7:24 is my favorite type of camo!
In the army in Finland we never put our vest inside of the camo
Imagine jumping on the mud with this beautiful white camo...
You: *sneeze*
Finnish Snow: Bless you.
about the black gloves.... do a hole in the sleeve of the winter camo a few cm down from the edge . put your tumb though the hole so the camo goes down to your knuckles. also reduces snow ingress
“He’s doing a really great job”
*drops down into oblivion off camera*
Oh yeah great content as always!
Thank you!
I think for next winter I'll pick up some M05!!
Russians already knocked off M05 winter overwhites made from cheap nylon over 10 years ago so they can use them for false flags. We bought a bunch of them to see how they look and perform. They get really wet inside from sweat even in -30˚C, so they suck to wear. The Finnish winter gear allows sweat to vent out.
Finnish gear is top notch!
Love how the WW1 Dazzle Camouflage is still relevant today
Trips in the background, lol
Kippis. The Finns are awesome! And you are awesome for showing off their winter camu!
That m05 pattern with white specks is only really used on that fur hat and a heavy padded jacket and pants, they're only used if you need to stay warm while standing still like on sentry duty or during formation drills in winter.
Yeah, the black boots really disrupted the camo...
The only times I managed to spot him before he moved was the times his boots were above the snow/not hidden behind foliage.
The times he was using foliage in front of him(even just those thin branches at 7:32), and kept his boots hidden though? pretty much had me jumping in surprise when he moved and revealed himself.
Cool video! Good job in showing the pattern in various spots!
Thank you!
We're thinking of doing a video on NVG and thermal camouflage. Any suggestions or cool ideas?
@@PolenarTactical those are topics I am just diving into myself for some articles. I will write you a PM
those zippers are pretty smart.
Sometimes we use regular m05 jacket but winter/snow pants if tree's leaves doesnt have snow no more but ground is still white
I will never need snow camo in my current environment, but I would get one of those pants just for the GONDOLA meme
Nice camouflage, Polenar Tactical.
I love Novritsches kreuzotter pattern that looks like nam tiger stripe and it works like a charm in slovenian woods.
0:12 the guys falls over 😂
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Thanks! :D
Gaffa Tape 👍 Well done that man, well done
Great that someone finally thought about people with tactical bellies. With that clever zipper now you can just release it. Its sauna-related I guess
In finnish army we put vest over the snow camo jacket.
Well, I saw him before he even revealed himself. Camo works👍
Before anyone throws a hissy fit, ofcourse camo works better on distance
3:00 I see you're channeling your inner Finnish conscript there.
Spotted him instantly.
Thanks for sharing this
i find it really amusing that i spotted him in the very first clip without him even standing up yet
must resist the masculine urge to wrap firearms in white tape
Nice video & congrats on over 1m of subs!!! 👏
Thank you! :D
No amount of camo will make you miss sniper man tripping at 0:10
It doesn't really look like it was intended to be reversible, looks like it was just a coincidence of manufacturing the print on the jacket.
BUT, this really should be a feature were possible with camo covers!! (at least intended to be used in mountainous regions).
Hats off to yourselves for spotting the double usage, if even one other person has used this to their advantage in a combat scenario then credit to them too 😅
smoke and mirrors (diamond shaped angled cube, from polycarbonate) partial mirror, its kinda environmental auto-camo suit, works well as well deflects any incoming stuff, all kings
ie kinda auto-adaptive camo full enclosure free movement suit
You guys should make one video where you show cool camo that people can wear everyday, like helikon or texar clothes
interactive video, excellent!
That dude totally tripped at :13 seconds
4:30 looks like Papier-mâché
What a great where is Waldo game.
Snow camo on smoll person = Gondola :DDDDDD
I like the winter camo (not snow camo) the best.
Awesome, what a lovely video. Very educational and informative, exactly what I have been looking for as I play ghost recon breakpoint.and I have a thing for camouflage.
Would like to see the belgian jigsaw camo :D
A lot of times I had to rewind, it's insane how you were camouflaged and I couldn't see you xD
As long as i didn't move it blend in perfectly
@@PolenarTactical Yup, the moment when you did move was like: "So that's where he was! :D"
Thank you for this
Excellent informative quality content bestest from Scotland
Been looking at camo for this time of year 👍👍👍
From Finland here. Stop moving, stay put.
Bad method to camouflage your weapon, that taping. It is good to have black gun, tape some spruce thicks on it. It will make you the same as enviroment. Good times.
saw the guy in the intro immidietly, got a sharp eye for ghillies
A typical way to use the m/05 snow camo during spring/late autumn, is to wear snow camo pants and a green jacket, as theres no snow on the trees. Your feet blend in with the ground and upper body with all the trees 👍
This video is a good example of how difficult it is to stop someone in camo.
Despite knowing he's there 100% and knowing he's close, it can easily take like 5 seconds to notice him. 5 seconds is enough for him to spot you first, take aim and mag dump you.
Awesome effort put into those demonstrations - much appreciated!
How about a video series on movement in general and impromptu camo?