Audi A8 3.0TDI after 30K and 6 years, noisy engine ?We carried out inspection for warranty company
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มิ.ย. 2024
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This time with a low mileage Audi A8 with 3.0TDI DDV engine. Customers contact us originally just to sort out oil pressure software upgrades but he mentions in person there is a sound coming from the engine. So we had a listen to it but it was very hard to say what it could be. He booked the car again for inspection to prove if there's any internal issues and hoped for the best that the warranty company would agree to cover it. After we open the engine from top this is what we found ...
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Man how the mighty 3.0 TDi has fallen. I have a A5 3.0 Tdi with the CCWA engine and it still works like a charm. Sad to see how much the quality has dropped on these engines.
VAG isn't great sadly, they've really dropped the ball
The workshop looks amazing, great job.
30k miles in 6 years? That means 5k miles per year. This can mean the owner has driven this car only short distances, only in town, with lower engine speed, and he changed the oil after the seller recommendation ( 20K miles? 30000 Km?). Garanty after 6 years?. People buy A8 only to show up in town, but this car need to be used properly. Long distances, proper engine speed, proper motor temperature. I wonder if you can read how many time this motor had the right temperature? In my opinion i think you send the wrong mesage. Is nothing wrong with the engine, is something wrong with the user...
Appalling use of poor quality materials and Audi must be aware of this problem, but still persist in this farce of oil pressure reduction which contributes to rapid wear, especially at that kind of mileage 🤷🏼♂️
i consider bmw/audi/mercedes to be lease cars. you buy a honda/toyota...
these cars are nice if they work, but unfortunately, reliability and ease of maintenance werent on the top of the list when they designed them.
Gross over simplfication of what is going on here... But yes Audi should have a fix for this by now........
@@jabberwockytdi8901when the cats will fly…
VAG EA888 motor has had an issue with cracking plastic housings on water pump - stat housing for years. They make an upgraded part that is sold as a replacement for the stock version but still carried on fitting the sub standard original. Mine failed at 18k on my 3yr old Golf R just out of warranty.
At work we had some grass cutting strimmers on test from a large manufacturer and they inspected them weekly. As it's commercial use it's much tougher on wear a month is like a year for home use. The engineer after a period of time was asking about gearbox failure, they were still fine, at which point he said they will change to a less robust plastic as they were too strong! Designed to fail to keep you buying more 🙄
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Some of the best content coming from this channel on Audi engines. As an owner of a 2014 TDI with 125K miles I can at least be confident in knowing what to listen for when things start to go wrong. It’s so unfortunate because this engine is such a joy to drive. But coming from VW in my early days you come to learn to live with some of the quirky aspects of German car ownership.
Thanks guys for putting out great content ❤.
Need to see more updates on your Allroad. Can’t wait!
We all need to realize that these guys are doing great job and probaly living good because of good job. How to make good job even better? Answer is videos like this. I dont believe this is crucial for engine because I see a lot of cars with 3.0 TDI's (2018+) with more than 200000km's and still running smooth.
Wish you had a Vag Technic garage in Switzerland, your knowledge and work are remarquable 👍🏻
There are best mechanics in Europe in Switzerland
@@chrischriss6276 where in Switzerland ? 😂 there are none capable of such work and I know a lot about « Audi Spezialist » they don’t even capable to diagnose car properly….
Nice to see you back as I was missing my fix of Vag work.
wherever you got the music from you got my EARS HAPPY :D love your content!
I love your videos. I wish you'd make more, but understand it is loads of extra work, & it seems you are already burning at both ends. I know your clients greatly appreciate your fantastic work & attention to detail.
Land Rover have done the same with their TDV6 and SDV6. It's an oil pressure issue to help with lowering emissions. More and more manaufacturers are doing this so VAG aren't on their own!!
They're on the right path though, ruined and seized up engines make zero emissions! 🤣
The ticking is the clock running out on the mechanical warranty :D On my 3.0 supercharged SQ5 the ticking noises are a constant concern because you never know when those timing chain guides give way. Thanks for your videos dude! Kia Ora from New Zealand!
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That’s bad? What year sq5
Over 200,000km on my old 3.0t S4, guides were fine, mine was also stage2+.. Use Motul 5100 5w40, change oil more than recommended.. also from nz
@@TheDarkhorse82 previous results are not a guarantee. As you know what they did with the oil pressure...
30,000 km and it’s wearing out, wow. I have a 2006 Touareg 3.0 tdi with 336,000 km and still going strong! Love the car but with the problems the new ones have I’ll give them a miss!
This Channel has helped me out so much that I will never by another Audi again lol
At 10:51 you really caught the noise…. Nice video, thanks a lot!
Absolutely love and appreciate these vids like you wouldn't believe , yes I know things have got crazy expensive but this is more learning about the engineering side of things for me and learning about the differences not only between different brands like audi bmw mercedes and toyota ect but it's also about learning about petrol vs diesel , probably that are caused by egr , dpf , oil dilution ect I understand but what is causing these issues that are not related to all the emissions stuff ? That's what's got me puzzled
Definitely a helpful video Tomas. Thank you! I have been considering whether to purchase an A8 TDI or S8 4.0T during the next few months. After watching you pull down a relatively modern TDI with only 30K miles / 50K kilometres, with that level of damage, I was not impressed. For older generation petrol engines that would be a great run in period, whilst older gen diesels would be comfortably twice that. Am definitely considering the 2015-2018 S8 or S8 Plus instead of the TDI now.
Great content as always 👌
Given that European Audi, VW, Bentley and other brand engines are made in the same plant in Hungary, are all these type of issues spread across the other brand engines. All the manufacturing plant buildings have "Audi" written on them. Good video, thank you.
Love the content I just wish you had more time to be able to produce more.
Great video! Would love to see a video of Audis/Engines you would recommend buying. Which ones are less likely to have major,expensive issues 😊
Nice work!
What an absolute disgrace. A 67 plate low mileage Audi with engine problems already. Audi UK ought to step in and take steps to repair this.
I like watching your videos! There are so many details in them! I have a CTBA engine in my A8. Does it also have camshaft issues like this one here? Thanks 😊
Im loving tbe low level comedy from you, cracks me up😂
Great video, keep up all your hard work...I'm sure Audi 's will 😮😮😮
Love your channel lads.every time I see an audi now I think big bill coming 😂
Hey man, love your videos keep it up!
I was wondering if the same issues were present in engines with code CVUA. These are the 3.0 BiTDIs from 2016-2018 and I've been looking to buy one since last year, but the issues I see get me quite worried for the condition I'll get it at 80+ k miles.
Where are you based. Great work.
Also I have this engine gulp. Under warranty.
I’m paranoid always listening to the engine lol. Runs great btw and is under warranty. Touch wood all stays smooth.
I had a A3 1.6tdi 2015 and it was a fantastic engine. I looked after it and got a Q2 last year but petrol.
Audi needs a lawsuit in EU+UK to get these 3.0tdi engines sorted
Audi used to be good quality, but over the last 10-15 years that has massively changed. The TFSI engine was a nightmare and now these
And diesels used to last longer than gasoline engines!I guess this is a myth for the history books😁Nice video and also good for the owner that the warranty and Audi stepped in covering for him🙂
Nice job 😊🙌👍👌
Just subscribed to your channel 😊 what diagnostic tool fo you use
What a great advert for Toyota 🤣
This is why Toyota doesn't need to advertise
Exactly.
pity there do not have a range of sportier cars then.
Don't be too smug, they're producing rubbish too.
Aren't they all now?
My S6 3.0 tdi 2020 with engine code DEWA just give up. 59k miles and engine just died. Audi diagnoses ? Faulty injector cause hydro lock on cylinder and bend conrode ! I know this is just an excuse to lack of oil changes, lack of oil pressure, lack of free air flow due to clogged intake and dpf etc… these engines are ticking bombs due to emissions target
This is why German engineering sucks
The design is good. But the software and all the eco friendly mods are killing it !
@@rmbossvr6 majority of the newish diesel engines fail, even the rs cars have issues, just poor design
@@JordzyBrev Nothing to do with German engineering and everything to do with German socialist "green" politics.. the engineers job is to make an engine around these often stupid regulations and make them at a competitive price, they only have to last while under warranty while the first (most likely a business through leasing) owner has it. After that they dont care about the 2nd to 15th owner :D
1 thing I have learnt from your videos is be very careful when buying Audi
I wouldn't trust a full service history, it all depends if the work has actually been completed.
Seen where oil filters/air filters etc haven't been replaced, yet the service records are upto date.
Everyone complaining about emissions target, do other manufacturers have these same failures?
I've subscribed
Everyone needs a workshop these days
Are there any options for engine oil brand and specification or wear reducing additives that could help protect the premature wear that's going on in these engines. Maybe owners could take some action before the death rattle occurs. Im thinking a higher viscosity or the like.
Is there any more info on the oil pressure remap? I have a CRT engine, and I'd love to get it done, but I'm not in the UK or Europe
great vid again.....can i ask..do you ever get any sleep😂
How are the latest EVO 3 versions, like DPXA? Am thinking of getting a 2021MY Q7 just to get the latest enginer revision in the hope some of these issues have been resolved?
Thin old oil, hard accelerations on cold engine do this kind of damage on an engine.
On my 3.0TDI, at cold start, only after 2mins the oil starts to show up on the cam if you look trought oil cap so let it idle for at least 3-5mins before start.
Mine has 261.000km and runs great but I change the oil every 6000km.
Idle = low revs = low oil pressure :D but for real now, its quite literally raining water inside a cold engine so I wouldnt advise leaving it idling that long although it probably doesnt do anyhting too bad to the engine either.. if your engine runs great its most likely due to the short oil change interval to be honest.
Lowest oil pressure at idle
@@RealWheelDrive39 I don't know, I would not rev it cold, @VAG technic, an opinion on this?
Depends on the engine. These modern engines restrict oil pressure so much, that it can better to drive it instantly than letting it idle. Mercedes had engines that self destucted if you let them warm up at idle...
@@Spy0nu Not saying to rev it.. but idling isnt good either. Around 1500rpm (so normal slow cruising rpm) is the best because these modern engines especially diesels just cant heat up on idle and their oil pressures are already set low (more oil = more friction = higher emissions = higher tax = higher cost = less people buying :DD)
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Have to listen to my engine. 67T km. Any same troubles with DDVE engines, built 2019? Have noticed that camshafts covers are made of plastic. My made of aluminium and produced in Hungary. Greetings from Germany!
How are the Audi 4.0t engines in terms of reliability, I know there's the oil screen TSB but apart from that how are they and what are the commonly come in for
Does the current 200bhp 2.0 TDI 4 pot suffer from any of these VAG improvements like low oil pressure or mechanical redesign ?
Been looking for 2010 -> A6/A7 with 3.0TDi, wondering what year model and engine code I should look for to get the best reliability 🤔
I assume 2nd gen 3.0 tdi are more realible than 3rd gen? I got A5 8TA with 260k km and still runs fine with very minimal chain rattle at cold start for few seconds.
I love the channel with great content and understand there’s no video without problems but I’m an Audi buyer on my 3rd 2L diesel which is my choice and never a problem but get the impression I’m lucky. Yes or No on my comment.
I Have Audis looooong time never had issues 😀
Audi have now upgraded the parts from milk chocolate to dark chocolate 😂
What's your opinion on a8 d4 4.2tdi with 385bhp? As you said you didn't had a good feedback on tdi.
Can you advise / recommendwhat age && Audi engine codes to avoid ?
You mentioned 2014 on as being scrap & your videos show this - big money car with 30k needing yk spend
A7 on the shirt list but might be 2012, 2013 so engine codes that are good & bad
I hve 2.0 Passat B8 2.0 Tdi 150bhp CRLB cpde. Anything to worry about on them ?
Interested in upping the oil oressure
It is known problem with camshaft on C7, as example. bayonet lock? Please show lock of the camshaft next time :)
How is the 3.0 tfsi engine from the Audi Q7 60e compared to the 3.0tdi?
What year did they start using the gen3 engine? Looking to buy a 3 ltr tdi and looking to avoid the gen 3
While I know this is a different era but; The last time I thought about a diesel engine, I was about to lease a new 2002 VW Jetta TDi. In the end, I'm glad I leased a 1.8T instead.
Is this 3rd gen engine fitted to a D4 2017 3.0 tdi A8 262bhp?
It’s really difficult to hear the camshaft noise and differentiate between the injectors . It sounds complicated normal but I’m a BMW driver so totally used to that.
Do you think the S6 Diesel will fair any better as its got 10k service not long life? Mine is 3 years old in June 28k on the clock
Is the 2019 A6 2.0 tdi or 2.0 tfsi a good engine in your opinion? I have had my 2007 A6 3.0 tdi ASB engine for 15 years (no isues) and fancy a change but I have been really put off on the newer 3.0 tdi's by all your excellent information. Thanks!
2.0 TDI ....best engine is from C6 around 2011 on code CAHA ..... standard 170bhp going up on stage 1 around 210-215 and more torque so engine is solid and drives really flexible..... .
My a6 has 330k miles… with no problems… just let it runs
I wish the owner all the best with the warranty company. Most are total sharks who will pull every trick and stunt not to pay out on any claim. Wording such ad fair wear and tear and betterment clauses normally allow them to decline most claims.
So this indicates to me that anyone who buys a new Audi with this engine should have the oil pressure mapping done as soon as possible?
For anyone wondering how to spot a Gen3 instantly, look at 1:44 - all the cross hatching and ribs on the black plastic intake manifold is a Gen3. Gen2 is smooth and just has several lines in the crook.
Is the low oil pressure an issue for the sq7 tdi ?
I have 2017 audi a5 2.0tdi and in 110 000 miles it had around 9000 worth of repairs, luckily i had extended warranty. Most recennt one was adblue 3500 plus they had to give me courtsey car for which they paid around 2000 in 14 days. Fair to say never buying an audi without comperhensive warranty. I feel bad for the guy buying it off me.
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Is the 2016 CZVF 3.0 tdi engine affected? 140kw, 211000 km.
Im getting 5.7L/100km if i go really eco.....
A very good deterrent not buy VAG. I have passat 2.0tdi wiht DSG6 150MBT 2016 bought at 75k miles now is 140m..... knock on the wood no issues yet but at this mileage I now actually want to sell it
I can’t believe it 30k and so many issues. I had a 3.0 d3 where timing chain stretched at 135k miles but that was due to poor servicing etc still,
Lasted 135k
You have put me off Audi TDI's lol
Hi, can you name the warranty company?
My one does exactly same noise I think I need to bring it to you guys I still have warranty wich can cover up to 18k so lots of money to get the car fixed 😅
Is this the same in engine in my 2017 q7?? 😢😢😢
Are these 3.0 tdi any use at all?
Does the 2.0 tdi have issues like this? My current one is an A4 quattro and has already had an adblue repair. I consider changing to a Q5 3.0 tdi but this sort of stuff concerns me considering the car is a daily.
Stay away from audis they are nice looking cars but are money pits. They all have timing chain rattle issues and coolant leaks the both 2.0 and 3.0 tdi second and third generation engines.
Audi's planned obsolescence worked a little bit too good in this case.
I'm sure the new cams will last just long enough for warranty to expire. 👌
Great work for that inspection on A8 camshafts,i also drive 2014 A6 C7 2.0tdi ultra 190 hp lots off problems i had on that car also🤣 before i that i had a old 2005 A6 2.7 tdi that car was great an quality also it had over 350000km no problems i had it 8 years nowdays cars are not so good to old cars before 2010 ...🤔 Greetings from Mechanik from Croatia Zagreb City.😎👍
Koje si probleme imao?
@@user-mj1pl8dz1gPrvo problem je bio DPF nakon toga sam imao problem gubio je antifriz to je bio problem do hladnjaka u usisnoj grani,pa su počeli problemi sa S-tronic otišao mi je zamašnjak.....još uvijek ga vozim ali sve si mislim što če dalje bit sa kvarovima😂
Audi should employ Doggo as a designer.
I'm sure with Doggo's TPS parts knowledge and the amount of broken Audi's with low milage that Doggo works on, mainly playing catch with broken timing kits, chains and camshafts, that at this point Doggo can do a better job than Audi. Absolutely crazy the amount of faults these expensive 'premium' cars have Vor Sprung Doh it's broke again
Can you tell us more about the 2.0 tdi engine, do they get bad from 2014 like the 3.0 tdu?
They good unfortunately the typical dpf Adblue shajt
@@VAGTechnicand what about 2.0t TFSI with fsi+mpi, is it good? I haven’t seen videos about this engine on your channel. Specifically asking about DLHA engines on A6 c8
i watch another channel that only really works on R8`s and RS`s and S`s.
They even get work from main dealers.
They say unless the warrenty is a "OFFICIAL AUDI" warrenty its not worth the paper its written on. you have to argue to get any work done,if they do agree there is a limit to cost AND a limit to claims. all diagnostics to find the fault is paid by you.
1 guys claim was for a oil leak, they only paid for the seal!
Mayday, mayday. we are sinking !
Hello zisis German coast guard, what are you zinking abautt ? That commercial somehow is parallel with Audis quality 😂 Its going down
Sounds like 30,000 city driving lots of idle, dpf exhaust clogging up. Take it for 30 minutes Italian high speed free tune up, then recheck
Does this problem persist on 2022- onwards 210 kw engines?
Too soon to say
Thanks
Did anyone actually have engine damage with CRT/DDV because of camshafts, or is it just a sound/comfort issue?
Friends from Slovakia had few where the sprocket fell out
@@VAGTechnicthat is only true for the bayonet mounted model that is very old and discontinued for some years already!
30k - 9k worth of work already? hope Audi not cutting corners...if the car had done 100k then I'd be sayin this is ok...not 30k miles...but whatever the outcome from the warranty company, this needs to be done...could the oil pressure ( or lack thereof ) be a factor?
Did you say the warranty company “did not “ approve the repair?
Did
Man I love your channel
Try summarising less waffle and more to the point
Pratt they get it just right
Irrespective of the oil pressure management map problem it's a flawed design with such a small gear flank taking so much of the load. Audi should at a minimum be providing the upgraded camshafts F.O.C.
Be group advising on wrong oil grid,they should used 0w-30w and they should change oil much earlier than 20k suggested
Hood opener is in the correct side….
Tell That to Japan users 😀
@@VAGTechnic your steering wheel is on the wrong side giggle giggle 🤭 Greetings from 🇩🇰
30 k miles and engine close to imploding and you said don’t buy Audi tdi
Scary stuff
So I take it it should be petrol only except a 2008 q5 I bought was burning gallons of oil and Audi at the time said was normal
I gave it back
I have a 2020 a6 allroad and it has the same sound but I intend to completely ignore it. I want to see how long it runs until it's dead. Let's say an experiment for everyone who has this dreadful engine 😅
Don’t worry.. my a6 has 330k miles … I believe it has the same sound… but it runs great.. no oil leak.. no oil consumption…I don’t have reasons to sell it … 👍
So if I was going to buy a Audi diesel. Which ones are safe
New new or up to 15
I guess I will keep my high mileage 2010 A6 3.0 TDI CDYA as long as it lasts. After that it´s gasoline engines
this is a normal nois it is an diesel - the injectors can easyli diagnosed with the software.