RTI LEBEL RIFLE UNBOXING | French Mle 1886 M93 ANTIQUE Royal Tiger Imports | GREAT WAR Milsurp 8mm

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  • I had store credit with RTI I needed to use. I decided roll the dice on a French Mle 1886 Lebel. Upon unboxing the Royal Tiger Imports rifle, I was pleased to find a 1890 dated Antique. To my surprise the external condition was pretty dang good. I ordered a B-Grade non-matching example. The rifle I received has all matching serial numbers except for the bolt. There are no import marks which I appreciate. The stock did have two minor cracks. The only disappointment was the bore condition. This didn't come. As a surprise knowing where the rifle was coming from. The bore is dark and pitted but has strong rifling for the most part. Unfortunately the muzzle is very worn and eats a 8mm Lebel round all the way to the case neck. I'm sure this will negatively effect accuracy but I haven't had the chance to take it to the range yet to verify. Although I'm fairly satisfied with what I received I would still consider these rifles to be too expensive to roll the dice on even if they do seem to be some of the nicer rifles RTI is offering.
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    RTI LEBEL RIFLE UNBOXING | French Mle 1886 M93 ANTIQUE Royal Tiger Imports | GREAT WAR Milsurp 8mm
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  • @usna98
    @usna98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for the shoutout! Looking forward to seeing it cleaned up. Looks like yours also got hit by the infamous wire wheel.

    • @jasontorre3267
      @jasontorre3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes he did. So did mine. Bought an A teir numbers matching rifle. Also made in 1890 by the same manufacturer.
      Ultrasonic cleaning will help clean up. Especially if you don't have the proper bits to remove the screws. The lebel can be a bit fiddly to disasemble.
      By the way France ball N and D were not corrosive Ammo. Make sure your rifle has the N marks on it before you shoot surplus Ammo. Privi Partizan ammunition is made to ball D standards.
      Best of luck! Hope it shoots well.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they wheeled it for sure. It still seems to be in nice shape though and I was pretty happy all the serial number were matching including the stock except for the bolt.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is not N updated since it stayed in Africa while those updates were happening so I'll be shooting PPU.

    • @mnicrashSoren
      @mnicrashSoren 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it look sand blasted wire wheel explains it

  • @W.Edwardovich
    @W.Edwardovich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’ve been curious about these. great review

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I haven't seen much about the ones RTI are offering.

  • @dubc3615
    @dubc3615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like the look of it even as it is aged and needs a lot of work. Another good one to add the collection and its a labor of love getting it all fixed up. Always like the updates of the guns after you show them.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This one was a huge check off the list. It's one of the most important firearms historically speaking. I still haven't had time to get it properly cleaned up yet unfortunately.

  • @steventuck1524
    @steventuck1524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I purchased an 1886 lebel rifle from a local gunshop last year in very good condition...no stock cracks...about 70 percent finish remaining...excellent bore...all for the sum total of 350 bucks! The bargains are out there...just keep looking and avoid ripoff companies like royal tiger imports!

  • @shawnoandrew
    @shawnoandrew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome, thanks for posting. Still waiting with baited breath for hunters lodge order.....

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to reach out to them again tomorrow or the next day.

  • @tracyphillips3325
    @tracyphillips3325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi brother! Nice buy. It should clean up fairly well. I'm sure it will operate just fine, with a very thorough cleaning. I believe it will be as accurate as the sites that are on it. Have a great day, and take care 👍

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there buddy! Thanks for taking a look. Hope you and your family are doing well! I'm looking forward to seeing how this one does at the range.

  • @lockbars5456
    @lockbars5456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also enjoyed USNA98's video. He also has neat videos on the Hanyang 88s he got, among other videos. IIRC many Lebels have replacement stocks. The roundel may be worn away or the stock may be a replacement. I believe replacement stocks were numbered, but I do know they did not recieve a roundel. That being said, it could just be worn away. I found a very nice condition and matching Lebel for 1600 at a gunshop. I consider myself very lucky because most are very worn. Thanks for the video, it was fun to watch.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The serial number on the stock was quite worn but was matching so I'm pretty sure it was the original stock. I'm going to be putting out a Hanyang 88 restoration video myself eventually. It's just a really big project 😅

  • @SmittyMRE
    @SmittyMRE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the crud explosion, haha.

  • @marktroddyn3351
    @marktroddyn3351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting my B grade Saturday. Just happy to have a piece of history!

  • @MultiMagnum62
    @MultiMagnum62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Howdy Amigo!!!! Nice looking firearm, on the outside at least. As always, great history lesson, sir. Peace, John.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks brother! Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving.

  • @MitchC357
    @MitchC357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you got a rifle you are satisfied with.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I won't be completely satisfied unless it can hit a paper plate at 100 lol

    • @Firefighter_303
      @Firefighter_303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReadinessReviews how does it shoot?

  • @texascastblast5011
    @texascastblast5011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got a Yugo 48, SMLE 3, Gras carbine, and the Italian Vetterli 70/87 from RTI, haven’t had the chance to look at them yet, but will do videos on them when I get the chance

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've wanted to get a M48 from them several times but I'm just too afraid of bore condition. If I get a M48 I want it to be a good shooter because I have lots of 8mm Mauser ammo lol.

  • @laurentdevaux5617
    @laurentdevaux5617 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This bayonet is also French, it's a 1956 bayonet made for the semi-auto rifle MAS 1949-56. It was also used, in a more modern version, for the FAMAS assault rifle. Hope you found a sling swivel, it's a rather easy to find and cheap part, at least here in France

  • @danheimmermann3497
    @danheimmermann3497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. Hope the bore turns out well. These are great rifle though.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Yeah I'm hoping it will shoot decent.

  • @someguy2741
    @someguy2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The broken loop is probably the same as a berthier. They made a ton of them too. Its probably 20 dollars. I found them on a lot of the part websites being parted out. Any internals would be far less good to deal with.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll take a look. Lebel parts isn't something I've really looked into since I didn't have one until now.

  • @64KarmannGhia
    @64KarmannGhia ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious would you roll the dice on a cutdown version Of this? I’ve always wanted a lebel and missed the boat for the full size rifle but i see they have two cut downs left.. I feel like the price is a bit high especially because it’s been cut down but curious on your thoughts?

  • @notafed6817
    @notafed6817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish I could have the collection you do haha

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hear the ATF reference collection is pretty comprehensive 😂

  • @markmason3146
    @markmason3146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you decide if you will buy again from royal tiger?
    Great videos keep up the good work
    Mark

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't made any other orders since this one but I'm not going to say it couldn't happen again.

  • @picklepea9186
    @picklepea9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just got mine today. Gotta say NOT WORTH THE PRICE FOR THE CONDITION! Fire pin spring is broke and it looks like a rust bucket. I pray after cleaning and a quick shoot it wont blow up.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you had the chance to clean it up yet?

    • @picklepea9186
      @picklepea9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ReadinessReviews yes and i found more broken parts. Mechanical spring is broken the piece for the magazine disconnect is broken and sear spring screw is seized and that screw i cant find a part for. Otherwise its beautiful minus the rotting stock lol.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@picklepea9186 oof

  • @estright9293
    @estright9293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a mas 49 bayonet...hope my 49/56 I ordered is decent

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Correct on the bayonet! I'm really looking forward to seeing your 49/56. I've been close to buying one myself a few times since the price drop.

  • @arkgaming3730
    @arkgaming3730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wish I could find one of these

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I looked for one for a year before setting on RTI.

    • @arkgaming3730
      @arkgaming3730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReadinessReviews shame the only ones they have now are the butchered Ethiopian ones

  • @annhilater1985
    @annhilater1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it touches brass cause those old lebels had oversized bores, slug the barrel itll prob come out at .329

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it may need handloading for decent accuracy.

  • @DelGTAGrndrs
    @DelGTAGrndrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want one so bad

    • @someguy2741
      @someguy2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want one too but the prices got crazy. If you want to get something cheaper you can look for 1907/15 berthier carbines. Remington made some for WWI and the contract failed and they couldnt be delivered. The guns were bought by the government and they floated around a bit but they are somewhat rare. Somehow a lot of them ended up in Canada. I see them all the time and nobody knows what they are so they are cheap. The french arsenals made a zillion of them so those should be easy.
      Stay away from the milsurp ammo. Also if the gun doesnt have a N stamped on top of the trunnion you need to use PPU 8mm lebel or you will damage the gun. The french spiced up the 8mm in 1932 and re-cut the chambers on everything in inventory to open them up a bit. If the gun was out of french hands it wouldnt have been upgraded.
      Lastly... if you havent heard of Forgotten Weapons check him out. He made a book that he is just about out of stock. Chassepot to Famas. He has tons of videos.
      Also... check out C&Rsenal video on it. They make huge great historical education-grade videos.
      Lol. You probably already know this but I got on a roll! I will post this on the main thread too.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how I felt before getting one lol

  • @robs2747
    @robs2747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a Spanish m43 and sent it back. Bore was a rusty sewer pipe and unshootable. Just getting a refund and out 27.00 in shipping

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang. Sorry to hear that man.

    • @robs2747
      @robs2747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ReadinessReviews I was actually surprised that customer service was on top of it for once

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robs2747 true. It took months for they to resolve my last issue.

  • @miketaylor5212
    @miketaylor5212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1886 level the french first line rifle that was not as produced as their 2nd line rifle the berthier which was used up into ww2.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well they did have a ton of them made well before the start of the Great War.

  • @joemorganeatmyshortschannel
    @joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im glad you got lucky but id never buy from them

  • @bad74maverick1
    @bad74maverick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's not rust on the sight. It looks like the same dried axle grease the Nepal cache of weapons were coated with when stored.
    Also RTI has gotten so much hate they have stopped doing such things as wire wheeling the guns like your which is why yours looks "so nice"....
    They can come as is now.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather them be as is

    • @bad74maverick1
      @bad74maverick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ReadinessReviews I just ordered a Grade B yesterday. Pre 1898 selected one they forgot to charge me for and gave me an option for hand select (hand select B grade? Okay). So I paid 699 for the pre 1898 plus 200 for hand select and the girl on the phone said the warehouse manager said they weren't being wire wheeled any more. Can't wait to get it. I might to a video on it.

  • @serioussoldier7977
    @serioussoldier7977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man your a glutton for punishment huh, well at least it looks overall decent.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha. Yeah I guess so. I had to use the store credit on something and a Lebel is a huge cross off the list.

  • @michaelholmes3724
    @michaelholmes3724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oof that finish. Not good at all, or should I say… not there at all.

    • @ReadinessReviews
      @ReadinessReviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's just not there 😅 better than a rusty mess though.