I have been living In Ireland for 5 years now and when we decided to immigrate here, everyone told us we will be back. Here are my pros and cons of Ireland. Positive: Safety, Free Medical aid, Free education, Electricity 😊, The police, The postal system, Amazon, Internet, Jobs (no BEE), Friendly People, Clean Cities, hardly any potholes, snow in winter -5 , hot summers 42, Traveling to other countries is cheap. Cons The weather 😊 . I’m Happy here
I respect him for not bashing South Africa...... No matter what our country is..... We still love❤🇿🇦. We just need a new progressive government. That's all. And AA and BBEEE..... must come to and end.
This is how it is always going to be as long as the ANC is in charge. Take it or leave it. Most whites claim to love any country they end up in whether through birth or by choice. You can leave if you want to once you are in your desired country we can't really tell where you came from so you can easily immerse yourself in any country you choose.
Been in Ireland for 23 years and still happy. My kids have graduated and are doing well, the main reason for leaving was to give them the opportunities which I think they would not have in SA!
@@jasonvvanheerden1925 If you are prepared to sweat out 5 + years earning pounds it will carry you for quite some time. I'm not able to buy a house but a good reliable car is affordable and look for cheap rural town rents and the money will buy you several years here provided you live frugal. Yes it does seem that this country is only for the wealthy but so is most countries now. If you choose to live simple and enjoy the outdoor lifestyle life is great here. The system is designed to make us broke any way you look at it, may as well enjoy life with simple pleasures which is difficult to do abroad.
Been in the UK 32 yrs now and, like many S Africans, been very successful here, as have my children. My love of Africa/ S Africa remains undimmed and from afar the self serving, thieving ANC that does everything in its power to do what is wrong in pursuit of creating the thriving powerhouse country SA should be, is both aggravating and depressing at the same time. Hard to fathom why the ANC seems to have so little interest in retaining the wealth of talent that so successfully plies its talents in the major cities of the West. London is packed full of highly skilled, successful S Africans who really should be doubling the SA GDP. Been recently tapping into the local SA situation much more as my wife and I feel drawn to spending 10 or so years back in SA as retirees and will think it through over the next few years as the 'pull' factor of our roots is strong. As things are, would not expect too many well settled expats to come back with children in tow.
They don't want to build a strong country. They want to make a black dystopia like Zimbabwe with their indomitable combination of incompetence and corruption, under the guidance of the globalists of course.
Housing crises, daycare rate robbery, cost of living, unfriendly shy sun, mortgages are based on your income, rental properties are like voting lines and highest bidder gets it ,with mould probably. Take it or leave it. Impossible to move with a family with young kids unless you’re a millionaire and live anywhere near a capital city. It’s green sure, but u can keep it. Even the local younger working generation are fleeing to Oz .. it’s pretty , and friendly and it’s not for everyone.
As a foreigner, having lived in South Africa, i value personal safety above the sunshine. People hide in their houses behind high walls and i felt less free in SA. Beautiful country, warm people, but the country is a mess, unfortunately.
When i lived in SA i used to conceal carry but it became a hassle going out. Especially if you want to go to a club. It is nice not having to worry about this in the UK.
I’m on the Isle of Man. Not easy to get into, but possibly the country with the highest population percentage of South African expats (10%) in the world. I left because I had family here, and on the first night of my first visit I realised how safe I felt. Life here has strong positives, although it isn’t easy to make genuine friends with those who aren’t fellow South Africans. I love the weather (snow days are amazing) and my quality of life is good. I’d originally thought it would be nice to take some friends back to South Africa to show them around but have abandoned that idea as SA crime and load shedding has increased. Some Saffas here love visiting SA, and I respect people who want to return some day. I, personally, am not one of them but each to their own. It’s been an adjustment, but well worth it in my opinion.
I have recently emigrated to, what you guys call the sh*thole, New Zealand. We didn’t flee, and were very happy in George WC. We left to give our children a better life. They are both teenagers and can go and study WHATEVER they want and not have to worry about the shade of their skin. We have a good life here, but we will always long for family and the familiar.
Well, I immigrated to Aotearoa twenty five years ago and I love it. My children are doing well and so am I. Aotearoa is safe. My salary as a teacher is good. It is great to visit my family every second year or when I miss them. Of course, I love my country of birth. To everyone who plans to immigrate. I wish you God speed.
It's nice to see you are covering the other side of South Africa - those that have left but remain steadfast S African. We would all love to return home, but our family and friends remind us daily what they are going through. The ANC may be a joke, but unfortunately its not a comedy worth living under. BTW, I'm Portuguese/South African and I live in the Netherlands - great work/educational opportunities, good medical support at reasonable cost, police force that actually works and yes, the weather isn't great, but you can't have everything in life. If we need good weather, we fly for an hour South. If we need to braai, then there is always one around the corner. If we need rugby, then the WC is also around the corner. Go Bokke!
I have been in Ireland for a year. Weird to not lock your car and for lost wallets to be returned. Good drivers and no load shedding. It always rains which is why it is so green. But big pharma is strong here and natural health cures hard to find. Everything is eff expensive and the people are just not my people. Stranger in a strange land.
You say shits expensive, but here in SA with how shit things are now, it doesn't matter if it's cheaper, because with how lacking jobs and decent paying jobs are, you earn next to nothing anymore, which makes living expensive anyway. Plus you find yourself having to move every couple years because certain people move in and turn everything into a township, of filth, crime and inconsideration. I'd rather stay put then having to live in a shithole and seeing people defecate in public the moment you leave your driveway. Hoping when you come home the house, foundation and all isn't fking stolen. Plus the youth are not considered and will have to leave anyway because there is nothing here for them.
Have many friends and family that have moved all over the world. When asking them if they would ever move back or retire in South Africa the answer is always the same no way.
I am a South African Architect on my way to the UAE. I know of a Mechanical Engineer moving to New Zealand and a Structural Engineer moving to Australia, within this month. And three more Architects moving to Canada a month later. The brain drain is quite severe at this stage from my immediate environment.
BTW Netherlands is most definitely not shit. Been living here for a year and spent the past 5 weeks in South Africa visiting family. Netherlands is a country where everything just works by comparison to SA. What Darren said is correct. While the ANC remains in power and if the EFF gets any stronger, SA has no future whatsoever. Even if the ANC get bounced in the next election, it will take a decent party (of which we don't really have any) at least 5 - 10 years to undo the damage these corrupt thieves have done since 1994. At my age I do not have the time to wait for that to happen. I loved the past 5 weeks I spent in SA but the loadshedding, potholes, water restrictions and everything else from Thabo Bester to the ANC vetoing a proposal to investigate Phala Phala makes me realise more and more that until there are massive positive changes including the entire ANC NEC going to jail for the rest of their lives, South Africa is not the place for me to live.
I read an article that Netherlands has reached its growth limit? My business partner is Dutch and has family there, he has a very similar view in that it's not a nice place... Horses for courses...
Thank you for an interesting video. I have four children who are all married and are living overseas. They live in four different countries and vow never to come back to South Africa. My wife and I totally agree with and support them. They and the grandchildren are living successful, happy and safe lives in their new countries. They have lived on average between for almost ten years in their new countries. They have met many South African friends and have simulated well with the local peoples. I am what the younger generation calls a dinosaur. I and my older generation have helped with building up this country, now only to see how it has been destroyed. Even if the ANC were to loose the election this country will fall into chaos. The ANC will not accept defeat. Just look at the politics of the day. My personnel advice to the youngsters of today get your education and emigrate as fast as you can. There is no future in this country.
I'm Irish living in South Africa and I don't have a single South African friend other than my brother in law. You guys claim to be warm and friendly but the fact is you're not. Truthbomb
I don't think South Africans are overly friendly, the older generation was but people aren't like that anymore. Everyone lives their own lives behind barbed wire, electric fences that don't work and 6 foot walls. The majority of South Africans are extremely depressed and are unhappy, one just has to look at the appalling conditions they have to live in and I'm not only referring to the underprivileged people it is beginning to apply to everyone except for those with huge bank accounts. Unless there is an extreme positive shift in South Africa (a miracle), I would encourage everyone with kids to immigrate for a safer and better way of life. Darren and his wife did the right thing.
I disagree. It depends where you live in SA. I found Capetonians to be the most insular and unfriendly. Everywhere else were friendly and warm people. I’ve lived and worked in Gauteng, Mpumalanga, Western cape and Eastern cape.
+You are right. My mother's generation was the last who was friendly. I thought my generation would be the same, but my eyes were opened very quickly. I live in a security complex and have tried to make friends here - unsuccessfully. I envy the people who are young enough and with the necessary funds who can leave.
I left SA with R200 and a Matric Certificate with 10 years of experience in construction. Been in Dubai 7 years, using this place as a stepping stone to another country. But as long as i can live here i will stay. I use to think that SA Constitution was a pinnacle of democracy but soon realised that a Balance between Monarch; Oligarch; Parliament and Anarchy is as close to perfect as possible. I struggle to find a good convincing reason to return and i would really like to but right now is a No.
I have a job waiting for me in Netherlands or Germany (oh the luxury of choice!), with my current employer. Once I get the vestiges of this law degree out of the way, I intend taking it up to get that international working and living experience for a year or two. South Africa definitely is my home though.
I see immigrant Saffas still keeping in touch with SA news. Wish they had better things to say about their country of birth. This is what Saffas do. We talk down our country, yet other countries could be hell on earth and their citizens won't say anything negative about their country. I don't bother with politics ( just for peace of mind) or media and just enjoy this most beautiful country on earth and our people. Not everything's bad, not everyone's bad. I'm glad I don't live in a Western country where trans people are setting their agendas. Love you SA ✌🇿🇦
I have to agree, anything remotely different from SÃ and it’s automatically superior, have a little self pride in your soil. Don’t trash where you from wherever u are. Show pride in our resilience.
Have been in UK for 35 years now. The country has been very good to me, completed a university degree free of charge, free healthcare as well and a generous benefits system as a safety net between jobs. I like the weather here, it is very changeable with no two days exactly the same. I adore the Open Golf Championship and the many links courses around the British Isles. Nothing better than to pit yourself against a biting wind on a links golf course. I don't miss the monotonous sunny days on the Highveld but I do miss the spectacular natural beauty of SA such as God's Window in what was Eastern Transvaal. White South Africans in 70s and 80s often quite rude, boorish, insulting, hostile. Black South Africans more joyful and generous in spirit. Yes, English people not that easy to get close to, but hey, I love my privacy in any case. English generally have many good qualities such as honesty, politeness, trustworthiness, reliability, fairness, tolerance, law abiding and sense of humour. They could do with better work ethic as many are lazy and fat. They also lack morals and are almost all atheists. Not a healthy place to raise children at all. Too many people aspire to the lowest common denominator and lack aspiration of any kind which is led by the tabloid media. A lot of English get sick on purpose by way of drugs, smoking, drinking, poor diet or a combination of these so that they can then live off the welfare state - much to the disgruntlement of the poor taxpayer. English are gloomy and pessimistic which presumably comes with the weather. So, all in all, good and bad in both countries.
All saffers (incl me) want to eventually go back, I was in Ireland for 10yrs and was offered a position by my company to go back I jumped at it and lasted 3yrs, couldn’t wait to get back to Ireland, SA wasn’t the place I remembered, that place is gone and going on regular holidays isn’t the same as living there…the constant threat of crime/violence, having to bribe officials just to get your drivers license changed, ALL the police are on the take, education system is terrible, load shedding etc etc I couldn’t take it anymore, going back to SA to live had one good effect I have been 100% cured of ever wanting to go back again and feel far more settled in Ireland than I ever was before….yes I had wonderful times back when I was younger but that’s just a memory and that SA doesn’t exist anymore.
Hi Ramon, my name is Eddy and I’m 25 years old, and have been living in Ireland for 10 months now and although it is great in terms of finding employment and having a better quality of life, I do find myself missing home. As a young adult I would love to be on one of your podcasts. Regards ❤
@aphiwe msomi I left because I just did not see a future in S.A… all though I wish it weren’t the case, unfortunately with the way the country is being governed, it’s hard for young people to really envision a life for themselves, hence why I made the tough decision. It’s just a shame because S.A has such potential to become such a great country but unfortunately the way things are going it’s hard to be hopeful.
@@eddydasilva9738 Who will enforce the change you want when you are all just leaving. As long as you forget about the politics then South Africa is a great place to be.
@@eddydasilva9738 Please vote for the DA in 2024 from overseas if you can. It is a milestone election for our beautiful country!. If any political party can fix SA and create a better future for all of us , it is the DA!!
Appreciate this video. Been working abroad for many years and despite all the warts returning to SA in a couple of years. All my assets remain in SA. I have benefited from foreign currency earnings and don’t deny anyone that opportunity. I’ve never felt truly integrated in UK US or Indonesia and never felt at home and from this side of the pasture, things are also in decline socially , culturally and economically
Great interview. I’m struck how “growing economy” is like a mantra. Why not a “prosperous economy”? The holy grail of GDP has been shown to be a totally false measure of both prosperity and happiness. As the world breaks up and the “supply chain” becomes increasingly local, will we all begin to understand the self indulgent “Woolworths” .. I want what I want and I want it now, trap we have created for ourselves? Don’t come back Darren, till this country is more like Ireland with better weather. 🍀🌈
@@vleiratfilms2020 Why would you think that? SA economy is deeply strangled by terrible government policies and endemic corruption that keeps serious investors away and key skills emigrating. 40% unemployment will make SA ungovernable, so not sure what paradigm you see being effective, but history is super clear about what doesn't work.
@@daw60-gx3fo History shows that using GDP as a measure of success appeared to work well last century. More of the same in the 21st, with the highly centralised systems already breaking down around us, will in my view, just as surely, be a guarantee of failure. We can agree to differ, and compare notes in 5 years to a decade. 🤔
The question is ... do you spend your life working in a country that when you are much older goes belly up or do you invest your life and work in a country that respects you and looks after you when it's your time to retire.
I emigrated at 60. I have started again. I will never go back to SA. I am born in Capetown, I have a license to live there. As beautiful as SA is, it has become a country of wreckless behaviour and corruption and misery for the ever increasing poor. I wish it weren't so. Yes, I miss the beauty and the sun, but nothing else. It's a bygone era.
❤ 🇿🇦 even as it changes daily 😅 but it’s all a constant adjustment, in other countries everything works. Down the road it will turn into a luxurious playground again 🪵🔥✨
I was watching a major NZ podcast and they interviewed a Black South African meteorologist who was the spokesperson for the NZ metservice. I meet South Africans here of all colours but it’s more common to see young black professionals here. I have been to Ireland, UK and many countries in Europe. I am now a NZ citizen but think that Australia is the best place in the world if you come from South Africa.
THE SOLUTION The ANC doesn't fulfill its constitutional obligations. The ANC is far worse than just a "poor" government, it CHOOSES to break down and to destroy. That is why this action is warranted and needed. Most importantly the ANC incites hatred/violence against us when they say that we stole their land - I checked, we didn't. It is not reasonable to expect law abiding tax payers to continue with "the winner takes all principle" of a democracy to their own and the country's demise. Who says we HAVE to be part of this political dispensation? Nobody questions this. It is time to stop, think and QUESTION this. Nothing and nobody have the right to force us to be part of this self destructive political dispensation. Approach the courts - convince them that it would be in the best interest of the country as a whole if we control our own taxes (first goal). Justify our rejection of the current political dispensation (main goal). Alternatively we can just use the constitutional court as a platform where we inform the ANC and public of our decision to control our money and effectively start our own government. Give reasons and evidence for our decision. DIE OPLOSSING? Die enigste praktiese oplossing is om ons eie belasting (persoonlike, besigheids en brandstofheffings), munisipale fooie en betalings vir elektrisiteit self te beheer. (Our money under our control). Deur dit te doen kan ons die land feitlik oornag omdraai. Maar is dit haalbaar, hoe gaan ons dit reg kry? Ons het nie n keuse nie, ons moet dit doen. My voorstel is om die stelsel te verander deur n hofsaak in die konstitusionele hof. Dit is dalk net n beginpunt. Ons is GEREGTIG om die land om te draai. As dit is wat nodig is om die land om te draai (en dit is) dan moet die hof ons toelaat om ons belasting ens. te beheer. Dis tog ook vir die beswil v.d. land as n geheel. Hoekom nie? Die ANC het NIE DIE REG om ons te weerhou om die land om te draai nie. Dis die kruks van die beoogde saak in die konstitusionele hof. Indien die hof nie onomwonde in ons guns beslis nie wat heel moontlik is kan dit nog steeds susksesvol wees want dan het miljoene Blankes, Bruin en Indiers gehoor dat hulle GEREGTIG is om te doen wat die beste is vir hulle en SA as n geheel. Op die oomblik dink nie een van hulle so daaraan nie. Niks of niemand het die reg om ons te dwing om in n selfvernietigende politieke bedeling te bly nie ook nie die konstitusionele hof nie. So n hofsaak sal ook die besef tuisbring. Die ANC lieg as hulle sê ons het die grond gesteel - regsaksie teen die ANC As ons nie die grond gesteel het nie kan daar mos nie grondonteiening sonder vergoeding wees nie. Dis dan die rede waarom die ANC en EFF vra vir onteiening sonder vergoeding. Ons het grond by die Zoeloekoning gekoop. Daar was ander gevalle ook gewees, tewens Bennie van Zyl v.d. TLU se vir my dat daar 25 traktate was tussen die Voortrekkers en Swart stamme vir die koop van grond. Die Voortrekkers is bes moontlik die enigste groep mense in die geskiedenis wat nie grond met geweld af geneem het nie maar gekoop het! Die V.O.C. het ook maar hulle was nie n nasie nie. Die TLU het al in 2019 vir Ramaphosa gese dat hy en die ANC lieg as hulle sê ons het die grond gesteel. Die TLU het ook al R100 000 aan gebied vir enige iemand wat kan bewys dat ons die grond gesteel het maar niemand het nie. Ek het n ou onderhoud op TH-cam van John Vorster gesien (Firing line with William F. Buckley) net voor die '74 verkiesing waar hy sê dat die regering reeds in 1936 besluit het om 7.25 miljoen morge grond te koop en as ADDISIONELE grond te gee aan die tuislande. Tydens die onderhoud het hy gese dat daar reeds 7 miljoen morge gekoop was van Wit mense en dat dit al reeds aan die tuislande oorhandig was. As ons nie die grond gesteel het nie en ons betwis nie eens die ANC en EFF se leuen nie is ons sekerlik die grootste idiote in die geskiedenis! Kom ons vat die ANC hof toe. ANC waar is jou gedetaileerde lys van grond wat gesteel was? Ons kan grondonteiening sonder vergoeding nek om draai eens en vir altyd met so n hofsaak. Omdat ons nie vir die ANC en EFF se hulle lieg oor die grond nie dink almal al klaar dat ons die grond gesteel het. Deur ons stilswye kondoneer ons die leuenaars se leuen. Ons kan dit nie in hierdie geweldadige land bekostig nie. Hoeveel plaas aanvalle en haat is nie al deur hierdie leuen veroorsaak nie en hoeveel nog? Bennie van Zyl se vir my so n hofsaak sal omtrent R5m kos saam met litigasie want die ANC sal definitief apelleer. Die TLU het nie die fondse hiervoor nie. Om as n regering dit jou doelwit te maak om mense se grond by hulle te steel gebaseer op jou eie gefabriseerde leuen. Om mense se grond by hulle af te vat is gelykstaande aan n oorlogsverklaring. Die ANC breek die land ekonomies af as ook die samelewing, tewens die ANC hits rassehaat aan teen die Blankes as die sê ons het die grond gesteel. Hoe kan daar verwag word van ons om verder ons belasting te gee aan die ANC en belangriker om deur die ANC regeer te word? Wat sal n groep redelike persone doen onder hierdie omstandighede? Of eerder waarop is n minderheidsgroep in ons omstandighede GEREGTIG? Dit is eintlik die saak wat ek wil begin. Blankes sal baie meer as R5m gee vir hulle vryheid. Ek dink nie mense besef dit nie maar dit (die ANC se leuen oor die grond) kan DIE REDE wees wat n hof (insluitend die Wereldhof en VN) se uitspraak in ons guns swaai as ons besluit om ons self te distansieer van die huidige politieke bedeling. Bruin en Indier wil ook onder die ANC uit kom, ons staan nie alleen nie. Dis nie net n Swart en Wit kwessie nie. Dit gaan oor waardes, breek jy af of bou jy. Blankes bou, ons kan nie langer onder die afbrekende ANC regering aan gaan nie. Die ANC is DIE REDE vir die verval v.d. land. Daar is honderde indien nie duisende bewyse hiervoor wat in die konstitusionel hof voor gele kan word. Hoe kan ons hierdie saak verloor? Om Swartes titel regte te gee vir die grond waarop hulle bly in die ou tuislande sal die grootste welvaart skepping ooit in die land tot gevolg he. Hoe is dit moontlik dat die ANC en EFF nooit daaraan gedink het nie!? Die huidige stelsel waar grondeienaarskap onmoontlik is, is juis DIE REDE (histories en huidiglik) vir Swart armoede, Swart verstedeliking en plakkerskampe. Die ANC se hy is Swartes se "Liberator" maar hy lieg. Die ANC is Swartes se "Opressor".
believe me its not easy to move to Germany,i first had to get married to a woman living in Germany but had to get married in South Africa, as if we got married in Germany i would have to fly back and wait for 2 years before applying for a spousal visa, i then had to do a Germany language course which was expensive as she was not a german citizen,also born in SA but staying in Germany for many years, , had to do an exam, then i applied for the spousal visa, waited 3 months before i got it, and once in Germany and you are white and they find out you are from SA they treat you in a ugly way,
"Sometimes fear can give you wrong signs " the world is no longer the world we know this happens everywhere people all over the world lost hope not only in South Africa, but people who trust the future will remain hopeful that thigs will come right, there is a saying" better the devil you know than that you don't know ", to be honest white people in particular are still living far better than blacks in South Africa I have never on a single breath heard black people calling for white genocide I am not saying everything is rosy in this country but fear is going to destroy and disintegrate lot of families who are trying to flee the unknown because of perception, give yourself homework and ask those who exited this country 10 to 15 years ago.
Being in New Zealand 28 years now. The first three years was quite difficult to settle in. Over time things improved and today looking back i feel blessed to had the opportunity to raised my children here. They all have great careers. Every country has its problems. Once a South African always a South African.
Sad to see great South Africans leaving because of crime and political rubbish. From my friend circle alone a bunch of well qualified and experienced professionals have left for the US, Canada, UK and Europe. On a simple level this means our high paying tax base is dwindling. On a more complex level skills are leaving this country in big numbers. I have lost too many friends who could not stand this country”s politics and where it is falling to anymore.
I have been living In Ireland for 5 years now and when we decided to immigrate here, everyone told us we will be back. Here are my pros and cons of Ireland. Positive: Safety, Free Medical aid, Free education, Electricity 😊, The police, The postal system, Amazon, Internet, Jobs (no BEE), Friendly People, Clean Cities, hardly any potholes, snow in winter -5 , hot summers 42, Traveling to other countries is cheap. Cons The weather 😊 . I’m Happy here
Pro's...no ANC government
I respect him for not bashing South Africa...... No matter what our country is..... We still love❤🇿🇦. We just need a new progressive government. That's all. And AA and BBEEE..... must come to and end.
This is how it is always going to be as long as the ANC is in charge. Take it or leave it. Most whites claim to love any country they end up in whether through birth or by choice. You can leave if you want to once you are in your desired country we can't really tell where you came from so you can easily immerse yourself in any country you choose.
an economically progressive government i hope, cause culturally progressiveness is just complete shit
Bashing South Africa has become an integral part of white culture.
yes SA stays ones born country
Just look north and see what is coming to beautiful SA 😢
Been in Ireland for 23 years and still happy. My kids have graduated and are doing well, the main reason for leaving was to give them the opportunities which I think they would not have in SA!
As an Irish man living happily in SA...id rather be over here than over there.....feckin slainte !!!!
I spent twenty years on prison Island (UK), returned here 3 years ago.
Best move ever🥂
😂😂😂😂
I hope Roman interviews you as I would like to know why you feel that way.
@@jasonvvanheerden1925 If you are prepared to sweat out 5 + years earning pounds it will carry you for quite some time.
I'm not able to buy a house but a good reliable car is affordable and look for cheap rural town rents and the money will buy you several years here provided you live frugal.
Yes it does seem that this country is only for the wealthy but so is most countries now.
If you choose to live simple and enjoy the outdoor lifestyle life is great here.
The system is designed to make us broke any way you look at it, may as well enjoy life with simple pleasures which is difficult to do abroad.
Been in the UK 32 yrs now and, like many S Africans, been very successful here, as have my children. My love of Africa/ S Africa remains undimmed and from afar the self serving, thieving ANC that does everything in its power to do what is wrong in pursuit of creating the thriving powerhouse country SA should be, is both aggravating and depressing at the same time. Hard to fathom why the ANC seems to have so little interest in retaining the wealth of talent that so successfully plies its talents in the major cities of the West. London is packed full of highly skilled, successful S Africans who really should be doubling the SA GDP. Been recently tapping into the local SA situation much more as my wife and I feel drawn to spending 10 or so years back in SA as retirees and will think it through over the next few years as the 'pull' factor of our roots is strong. As things are, would not expect too many well settled expats to come back with children in tow.
Reverse of brain drain is ANC
They don't want to build a strong country. They want to make a black dystopia like Zimbabwe with their indomitable combination of incompetence and corruption, under the guidance of the globalists of course.
Ireland is awesome. Been here a year. From the outside looking in wish we had got out of SA sooner. Would encourage you all to get out now.
Many of us have no where to go.
Before the lights go out
South Africa seems a beautiful country but needs to encourage more European immigrants.
Housing crises, daycare rate robbery, cost of living, unfriendly shy sun, mortgages are based on your income, rental properties are like voting lines and highest bidder gets it ,with mould probably. Take it or leave it.
Impossible to move with a family with young kids unless you’re a millionaire and live anywhere near a capital city.
It’s green sure, but u can keep it. Even the local younger working generation are fleeing to Oz ..
it’s pretty , and friendly and it’s not for everyone.
Been in Ireland almost a year now. This country will have my bones one day.
Based?
I left a year ago. I live in Northern Ireland. First year was hard but getting easier now. I have no plans to ever go back.
Join the Solidarity movement and help us save SA for our offspring. Selfdetermination is a right and it is what we demand unconditionally.
Hay Roman, been living in the UK now for 25years ànd love it, the weather isn't everything in life, safety first 😊
As a foreigner, having lived in South Africa, i value personal safety above the sunshine. People hide in their houses behind high walls and i felt less free in SA. Beautiful country, warm people, but the country is a mess, unfortunately.
When i lived in SA i used to conceal carry but it became a hassle going out. Especially if you want to go to a club. It is nice not having to worry about this in the UK.
Been in NZ for 7 years now just got my PR and will move back to SA in a heartbeat. If the opportunity comes along .
I’m on the Isle of Man. Not easy to get into, but possibly the country with the highest population percentage of South African expats (10%) in the world. I left because I had family here, and on the first night of my first visit I realised how safe I felt. Life here has strong positives, although it isn’t easy to make genuine friends with those who aren’t fellow South Africans. I love the weather (snow days are amazing) and my quality of life is good. I’d originally thought it would be nice to take some friends back to South Africa to show them around but have abandoned that idea as SA crime and load shedding has increased. Some Saffas here love visiting SA, and I respect people who want to return some day. I, personally, am not one of them but each to their own. It’s been an adjustment, but well worth it in my opinion.
Blessed to be Manx Africans
I have recently emigrated to, what you guys call the sh*thole, New Zealand.
We didn’t flee, and were very happy in George WC.
We left to give our children a better life. They are both teenagers and can go and study WHATEVER they want and not have to worry about the shade of their skin.
We have a good life here, but we will always long for family and the familiar.
Well, I immigrated to Aotearoa twenty five years ago and I love it. My children are doing well and so am I. Aotearoa is safe. My salary as a teacher is good. It is great to visit my family every second year or when I miss them. Of course, I love my country of birth. To everyone who plans to immigrate. I wish you God speed.
It's nice to see you are covering the other side of South Africa - those that have left but remain steadfast S African. We would all love to return home, but our family and friends remind us daily what they are going through. The ANC may be a joke, but unfortunately its not a comedy worth living under. BTW, I'm Portuguese/South African and I live in the Netherlands - great work/educational opportunities, good medical support at reasonable cost, police force that actually works and yes, the weather isn't great, but you can't have everything in life. If we need good weather, we fly for an hour South. If we need to braai, then there is always one around the corner. If we need rugby, then the WC is also around the corner. Go Bokke!
I will return to South Africa. I can't be away too long
I have been in Ireland for a year. Weird to not lock your car and for lost wallets to be returned. Good drivers and no load shedding. It always rains which is why it is so green. But big pharma is strong here and natural health cures hard to find. Everything is eff expensive and the people are just not my people. Stranger in a strange land.
Why don't you lock your car?
Feel the same and I have been here 7 yrs.
@@Big_B971 no need
@@Big_B971 Because it's a country with standards and crime isn't a problem like it is here.
You say shits expensive, but here in SA with how shit things are now, it doesn't matter if it's cheaper, because with how lacking jobs and decent paying jobs are, you earn next to nothing anymore, which makes living expensive anyway. Plus you find yourself having to move every couple years because certain people move in and turn everything into a township, of filth, crime and inconsideration. I'd rather stay put then having to live in a shithole and seeing people defecate in public the moment you leave your driveway. Hoping when you come home the house, foundation and all isn't fking stolen. Plus the youth are not considered and will have to leave anyway because there is nothing here for them.
Have many friends and family that have moved all over the world. When asking them if they would ever move back or retire in South Africa the answer is always the same no way.
In Australia for a year and very happy will never come back to SA . The Australians have made me very welcome and I'm very grateful to be here
I am a South African Architect on my way to the UAE. I know of a Mechanical Engineer moving to New Zealand and a Structural Engineer moving to Australia, within this month. And three more Architects moving to Canada a month later. The brain drain is quite severe at this stage from my immediate environment.
Don't worry man you can go if you want. Some people are coming in in droves.
@aphiwe msomi yes, from Zimbabwe and Mozambique 😅😅😅
@@lisajansenvanvuuren2232 😂😂😂Those are the useless ones. No one really wants them in SA no more they are just desperate. But funny joke!!! 😆😆😆
@@aphiwemsomi. thank you for the great news. Your approval was the only missing item I required for my VISA. 😁
All the best Martin I'm sure you'll do well. Nothing ventured nothing gained
Canada is absolutely amazing very cold but my kids loove it there huge SA community housing and excellent salaries SAfricans treated amazing
BTW Netherlands is most definitely not shit. Been living here for a year and spent the past 5 weeks in South Africa visiting family. Netherlands is a country where everything just works by comparison to SA.
What Darren said is correct. While the ANC remains in power and if the EFF gets any stronger, SA has no future whatsoever. Even if the ANC get bounced in the next election, it will take a decent party (of which we don't really have any) at least 5 - 10 years to undo the damage these corrupt thieves have done since 1994. At my age I do not have the time to wait for that to happen.
I loved the past 5 weeks I spent in SA but the loadshedding, potholes, water restrictions and everything else from Thabo Bester to the ANC vetoing a proposal to investigate Phala Phala makes me realise more and more that until there are massive positive changes including the entire ANC NEC going to jail for the rest of their lives, South Africa is not the place for me to live.
I read an article that Netherlands has reached its growth limit? My business partner is Dutch and has family there, he has a very similar view in that it's not a nice place... Horses for courses...
And look how they treated their farmers
Can tell you one thing, it's a different world compared to SA
Thank you for bringing people on the other side of this discussion
Thank you for an interesting video. I have four children who are all married and are living overseas. They live in four different countries and vow never to come back to South Africa. My wife and I totally agree with and support them. They and the grandchildren are living successful, happy and safe lives in their new countries. They have lived on average between for almost ten years in their new countries. They have met many South African friends and have simulated well with the local peoples. I am what the younger generation calls a dinosaur. I and my older generation have helped with building up this country, now only to see how it has been destroyed. Even if the ANC were to loose the election this country will fall into chaos. The ANC will not accept defeat. Just look at the politics of the day. My personnel advice to the youngsters of today get your education and emigrate as fast as you can. There is no future in this country.
I'm Irish living in South Africa and I don't have a single South African friend other than my brother in law. You guys claim to be warm and friendly but the fact is you're not. Truthbomb
id be happy to meet and become friends
Don’t be trashing us , if you don’t put in effort . Leave ur brother in law and meet a woman, u bound to be repaired
I don't think South Africans are overly friendly, the older generation was but people aren't like that anymore. Everyone lives their own lives behind barbed wire, electric fences that don't work and 6 foot walls. The majority of South Africans are extremely depressed and are unhappy, one just has to look at the appalling conditions they have to live in and I'm not only referring to the underprivileged people it is beginning to apply to everyone except for those with huge bank accounts. Unless there is an extreme positive shift in South Africa (a miracle), I would encourage everyone with kids to immigrate for a safer and better way of life. Darren and his wife did the right thing.
I disagree. It depends where you live in SA. I found Capetonians to be the most insular and unfriendly. Everywhere else were friendly and warm people. I’ve lived and worked in Gauteng, Mpumalanga, Western cape and Eastern cape.
+You are right. My mother's generation was the last who was friendly. I thought my generation would be the same, but my eyes were opened very quickly. I live in a security complex and have tried to make friends here - unsuccessfully. I envy the people who are young enough and with the necessary funds who can leave.
There are many people who are not able to leave.
Appreciate the negative generalisation of us
quite a fair and unbiased review. Well done
I left SA with R200 and a Matric Certificate with 10 years of experience in construction.
Been in Dubai 7 years, using this place as a stepping stone to another country. But as long as i can live here i will stay.
I use to think that SA Constitution was a pinnacle of democracy but soon realised that a Balance between Monarch; Oligarch; Parliament and Anarchy is as close to perfect as possible.
I struggle to find a good convincing reason to return and i would really like to but right now is a No.
Every sentence includes a "you know". We don't know, which is why we are watching....
Thanks for the feedback. Will keep that in mind for future interviews. 👌🏽
@@darrenfourie13 thanks for your insights. Take care.
I have a job waiting for me in Netherlands or Germany (oh the luxury of choice!), with my current employer. Once I get the vestiges of this law degree out of the way, I intend taking it up to get that international working and living experience for a year or two. South Africa definitely is my home though.
I see immigrant Saffas still keeping in touch with SA news. Wish they had better things to say about their country of birth. This is what Saffas do. We talk down our country, yet other countries could be hell on earth and their citizens won't say anything negative about their country. I don't bother with politics ( just for peace of mind) or media and just enjoy this most beautiful country on earth and our people. Not everything's bad, not everyone's bad. I'm glad I don't live in a Western country where trans people are setting their agendas. Love you SA ✌🇿🇦
Did you even listen to the interview?
I have to agree, anything remotely different from SÃ and it’s automatically superior, have a little self pride in your soil. Don’t trash where you from wherever u are. Show pride in our resilience.
Came to Australia 26 years ago and have put down roots. No way I will go back
Have been in UK for 35 years now. The country has been very good to me, completed a university degree free of charge, free healthcare as well and a generous benefits system as a safety net between jobs. I like the weather here, it is very changeable with no two days exactly the same. I adore the Open Golf Championship and the many links courses around the British Isles. Nothing better than to pit yourself against a biting wind on a links golf course. I don't miss the monotonous sunny days on the Highveld but I do miss the spectacular natural beauty of SA such as God's Window in what was Eastern Transvaal. White South Africans in 70s and 80s often quite rude, boorish, insulting, hostile. Black South Africans more joyful and generous in spirit. Yes, English people not that easy to get close to, but hey, I love my privacy in any case. English generally have many good qualities such as honesty, politeness, trustworthiness, reliability, fairness, tolerance, law abiding and sense of humour. They could do with better work ethic as many are lazy and fat. They also lack morals and are almost all atheists. Not a healthy place to raise children at all. Too many people aspire to the lowest common denominator and lack aspiration of any kind which is led by the tabloid media. A lot of English get sick on purpose by way of drugs, smoking, drinking, poor diet or a combination of these so that they can then live off the welfare state - much to the disgruntlement of the poor taxpayer. English are gloomy and pessimistic which presumably comes with the weather. So, all in all, good and bad in both countries.
Think you'll find that Ireland is no longer referred to as part of the British Isles. It is simply referred to as Ireland.
All saffers (incl me) want to eventually go back, I was in Ireland for 10yrs and was offered a position by my company to go back I jumped at it and lasted 3yrs, couldn’t wait to get back to Ireland, SA wasn’t the place I remembered, that place is gone and going on regular holidays isn’t the same as living there…the constant threat of crime/violence, having to bribe officials just to get your drivers license changed, ALL the police are on the take, education system is terrible, load shedding etc etc I couldn’t take it anymore, going back to SA to live had one good effect I have been 100% cured of ever wanting to go back again and feel far more settled in Ireland than I ever was before….yes I had wonderful times back when I was younger but that’s just a memory and that SA doesn’t exist anymore.
Not ur place anymore got it. Stay there and stop trashing our trash
Id like an interview. Living in the uk but on holiday in cape town right now.
Hi Ramon, my name is Eddy and I’m 25 years old, and have been living in Ireland for 10 months now and although it is great in terms of finding employment and having a better quality of life, I do find myself missing home. As a young adult I would love to be on one of your podcasts.
Regards ❤
Why did you leave in the first place and now miss home. Stay where you are, you got what you asked for.
@aphiwe msomi
I left because I just did not see a future in S.A… all though I wish it weren’t the case, unfortunately with the way the country is being governed, it’s hard for young people to really envision a life for themselves, hence why I made the tough decision. It’s just a shame because S.A has such potential to become such a great country but unfortunately the way things are going it’s hard to be hopeful.
@@eddydasilva9738 Who will enforce the change you want when you are all just leaving. As long as you forget about the politics then South Africa is a great place to be.
@@eddydasilva9738 Please vote for the DA in 2024 from overseas if you can. It is a milestone election for our beautiful country!. If any political party can fix SA and create a better future for all of us , it is the DA!!
@@aphiwemsomi. its easy to tell somebody to forget about the politics when there aren't laws that block you being employed
Appreciate this video. Been working abroad for many years and despite all the warts returning to SA in a couple of years. All my assets remain in SA. I have benefited from foreign currency earnings and don’t deny anyone that opportunity. I’ve never felt truly integrated in UK US or Indonesia and never felt at home and from this side of the pasture, things are also in decline socially , culturally and economically
Welcome back. We believe that you are making the right move.
Great interview. I’m struck how “growing economy” is like a mantra. Why not a “prosperous economy”? The holy grail of GDP has been shown to be a totally false measure of both prosperity and happiness. As the world breaks up and the “supply chain” becomes increasingly local, will we all begin to understand the self indulgent “Woolworths” .. I want what I want and I want it now, trap we have created for ourselves? Don’t come back Darren, till this country is more like Ireland with better weather. 🍀🌈
For the poor in SA, GDP growth translates into GDP growth per person and substantially more jobs...can't be bad I would venture to say
@@daw60-gx3fo That is what worked well throughout the 20th century. The paradigm has shifted. 🤔
@@vleiratfilms2020
Why would you think that? SA economy is deeply strangled by terrible government policies and endemic corruption that keeps serious investors away and key skills emigrating. 40% unemployment will make SA ungovernable, so not sure what paradigm you see being effective, but history is super clear about what doesn't work.
@@daw60-gx3fo History shows that using GDP as a measure of success appeared to work well last century. More of the same in the 21st, with the highly centralised systems already breaking down around us, will in my view, just as surely, be a guarantee of failure. We can agree to differ, and compare notes in 5 years to a decade. 🤔
Thank you,we all love SA 🇿🇦,it is going to change and we can all go back home🛖🏡🤞🙏
Nothing will change is getting worse màlema will soon be in power do not come back here
How naive are people really, going to change .. wake up
The question is ... do you spend your life working in a country that when you are much older goes belly up or do you invest your life and work in a country that respects you and looks after you when it's your time to retire.
I emigrated at 60. I have started again. I will never go back to SA. I am born in Capetown, I have a license to live there. As beautiful as SA is, it has become a country of wreckless behaviour and corruption and misery for the ever increasing poor. I wish it weren't so. Yes, I miss the beauty and the sun, but nothing else. It's a bygone era.
Currently living in Netherlands for 6 months. Originally from the Western Cape.
If SA had a decent Government there would be no place like it.
Gods own country
❤ 🇿🇦 even as it changes daily 😅 but it’s all a constant adjustment, in other countries everything works.
Down the road it will turn into a luxurious playground again 🪵🔥✨
Darren you will be in Ireland a long time
How did the Chevolet advert go: sunshine, rugby, braai, etc......😊. Even with all our problems I cannot imagine living anywhere else!
I knew a person from England who was not interested in going to England for a holiday. He move here and had no interest in ever seeing England again!
I was watching a major NZ podcast and they interviewed a Black South African meteorologist who was the spokesperson for the NZ metservice. I meet South Africans here of all colours but it’s more common to see young black professionals here. I have been to Ireland, UK and many countries in Europe. I am now a NZ citizen but think that Australia is the best place in the world if you come from South Africa.
THE SOLUTION
The ANC doesn't fulfill its constitutional obligations.
The ANC is far worse than just a "poor" government, it CHOOSES to break down and to destroy. That is why this action is warranted and needed.
Most importantly the ANC incites hatred/violence against us when they say that we stole their land - I checked, we didn't.
It is not reasonable to expect law abiding tax payers to continue with "the winner takes all principle" of a democracy to their own and the country's demise.
Who says we HAVE to be part of this political dispensation? Nobody questions this. It is time to stop, think and QUESTION this.
Nothing and nobody have the right to force us to be part of this self destructive political dispensation.
Approach the courts - convince them that it would be in the best interest of the country as a whole if we control our own taxes (first goal). Justify our rejection of the current political dispensation (main goal).
Alternatively we can just use the constitutional court as a platform where we inform the ANC and public of our decision to control our money and effectively start our own government. Give reasons and evidence for our decision.
DIE OPLOSSING?
Die enigste praktiese oplossing is om ons eie belasting (persoonlike, besigheids en brandstofheffings), munisipale fooie en betalings vir elektrisiteit self te beheer. (Our money under our control).
Deur dit te doen kan ons die land feitlik oornag omdraai.
Maar is dit haalbaar, hoe gaan ons dit reg kry?
Ons het nie n keuse nie, ons moet dit doen.
My voorstel is om die stelsel te verander deur n hofsaak in die konstitusionele hof. Dit is dalk net n beginpunt.
Ons is GEREGTIG om die land om te draai.
As dit is wat nodig is om die land om te draai (en dit is) dan moet die hof ons toelaat om ons belasting ens. te beheer. Dis tog ook vir die beswil v.d. land as n geheel. Hoekom nie?
Die ANC het NIE DIE REG om ons te weerhou om die land om te draai nie.
Dis die kruks van die beoogde saak in die konstitusionele hof.
Indien die hof nie onomwonde in ons guns beslis nie wat heel moontlik is kan dit nog steeds susksesvol wees want dan het miljoene Blankes, Bruin en Indiers gehoor dat hulle GEREGTIG is om te doen wat die beste is vir hulle en SA as n geheel. Op die oomblik dink nie een van hulle so daaraan nie.
Niks of niemand het die reg om ons te dwing om in n selfvernietigende politieke bedeling te bly nie ook nie die konstitusionele hof nie.
So n hofsaak sal ook die besef tuisbring.
Die ANC lieg as hulle sê ons het die grond gesteel - regsaksie teen die ANC
As ons nie die grond gesteel het nie kan daar mos nie grondonteiening sonder vergoeding wees nie.
Dis dan die rede waarom die ANC en EFF vra vir onteiening sonder vergoeding.
Ons het grond by die Zoeloekoning gekoop. Daar was ander gevalle ook gewees, tewens Bennie van Zyl v.d. TLU se vir my dat daar 25 traktate was tussen die Voortrekkers en Swart stamme vir die koop van grond.
Die Voortrekkers is bes moontlik die enigste groep mense in die geskiedenis wat nie grond met geweld af geneem het nie maar gekoop het! Die V.O.C. het ook maar hulle was nie n nasie nie.
Die TLU het al in 2019 vir Ramaphosa gese dat hy en die ANC lieg as hulle sê ons het die grond gesteel.
Die TLU het ook al R100 000 aan gebied vir enige iemand wat kan bewys dat ons die grond gesteel het maar niemand het nie.
Ek het n ou onderhoud op TH-cam van John Vorster gesien (Firing line with William F. Buckley) net voor die '74 verkiesing waar hy sê dat die regering reeds in 1936 besluit het om 7.25 miljoen morge grond te koop en as ADDISIONELE grond te gee aan die tuislande.
Tydens die onderhoud het hy gese dat daar reeds 7 miljoen morge gekoop was van Wit mense en dat dit al reeds aan die tuislande oorhandig was.
As ons nie die grond gesteel het nie en ons betwis nie eens die ANC en EFF se leuen nie is ons sekerlik die grootste idiote in die geskiedenis!
Kom ons vat die ANC hof toe.
ANC waar is jou gedetaileerde lys van grond wat gesteel was?
Ons kan grondonteiening sonder vergoeding nek om draai eens en vir altyd met so n hofsaak.
Omdat ons nie vir die ANC en EFF se hulle lieg oor die grond nie dink almal al klaar dat ons die grond gesteel het.
Deur ons stilswye kondoneer ons die leuenaars se leuen.
Ons kan dit nie in hierdie geweldadige land bekostig nie.
Hoeveel plaas aanvalle en haat is nie al deur hierdie leuen veroorsaak nie en hoeveel nog?
Bennie van Zyl se vir my so n hofsaak sal omtrent R5m kos saam met litigasie want die ANC sal definitief apelleer. Die TLU het nie die fondse hiervoor nie.
Om as n regering dit jou doelwit te maak om mense se grond by hulle te steel gebaseer op jou eie gefabriseerde leuen.
Om mense se grond by hulle af te vat is gelykstaande aan n oorlogsverklaring.
Die ANC breek die land ekonomies af as ook die samelewing, tewens die ANC hits rassehaat aan teen die Blankes as die sê ons het die grond gesteel.
Hoe kan daar verwag word van ons om verder ons belasting te gee aan die ANC en belangriker om deur die ANC regeer te word?
Wat sal n groep redelike persone doen onder hierdie omstandighede?
Of eerder waarop is n minderheidsgroep in ons omstandighede GEREGTIG?
Dit is eintlik die saak wat ek wil begin. Blankes sal baie meer as R5m gee vir hulle vryheid.
Ek dink nie mense besef dit nie maar dit (die ANC se leuen oor die grond) kan DIE REDE wees wat n hof (insluitend die Wereldhof en VN) se uitspraak in ons guns swaai as ons besluit om ons self te distansieer van die huidige politieke bedeling.
Bruin en Indier wil ook onder die ANC uit kom, ons staan nie alleen nie.
Dis nie net n Swart en Wit kwessie nie.
Dit gaan oor waardes, breek jy af of bou jy.
Blankes bou, ons kan nie langer onder die afbrekende ANC regering aan gaan nie.
Die ANC is DIE REDE vir die verval v.d. land.
Daar is honderde indien nie duisende bewyse hiervoor wat in die konstitusionel hof voor gele kan word.
Hoe kan ons hierdie saak verloor?
Om Swartes titel regte te gee vir die grond waarop hulle bly in die ou tuislande sal die grootste welvaart skepping ooit in die land tot gevolg he.
Hoe is dit moontlik dat die ANC en EFF nooit daaraan gedink het nie!?
Die huidige stelsel waar grondeienaarskap onmoontlik is, is juis DIE REDE (histories en huidiglik) vir Swart armoede, Swart verstedeliking en plakkerskampe.
Die ANC se hy is Swartes se "Liberator" maar hy lieg.
Die ANC is Swartes se "Opressor".
please tell something We Don't know
@@veronicakarstel9126 Then why is nobody acting upon it?
They sell Guinness in South Africa
Doesn’t taste the same. Guinness has a unique taste in Ireland.
We keep the hope that there is some kind of solution for us.
Been in the UK 30 years on the 23 May.
I have worked all over Africa, ex Rhodesia. I cannot live anywhere else, despite the chaos
The second time I’ve heard this gent say “I’ll edit this out” and leave it in. Now you have to just leave it there going forward 😂
reverse of brain drain is 30% for matric
31% gets you into varsity
@@itslogical8459 yes then they fail 1st year then take 5 years to do a 3 year diploma
@@itslogical8459 😅😅😅😅😅😅
This video brakes my heart. If it were not for the non racial government ????????
Ireland of most places 😅😅😅😅😅 money money money
Brain Drain. Brain Gain.
😆 Not sure Soith Africa is correct.
AFRIKA!!!
Soith?
believe me its not easy to move to Germany,i first had to get married to a woman living in Germany but had to get married in South Africa, as if we got married in Germany i would have to fly back and wait for 2 years before applying for a spousal visa, i then had to do a Germany language course which was expensive as she was not a german citizen,also born in SA but staying in Germany for many years, , had to do an exam, then i applied for the spousal visa, waited 3 months before i got it, and once in Germany and you are white and they find out you are from SA they treat you in a ugly way,
Hows crime in uk 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭wors🇿🇦🇿🇦
"Sometimes fear can give you wrong signs " the world is no longer the world we know this happens everywhere people all over the world lost hope not only in South Africa, but people who trust the future will remain hopeful that thigs will come right, there is a saying" better the devil you know than that you don't know ", to be honest white people in particular are still living far better than blacks in South Africa I have never on a single breath heard black people calling for white genocide I am not saying everything is rosy in this country
but fear is going to destroy and disintegrate lot of families who are trying to flee the unknown because of perception, give yourself homework and ask those who exited this country 10 to 15 years ago.
Brain Gain
My mans must also advice his colleague to also follow him.... It will be better for him to focus where he is..... Good riddance my brul
Not sure your sentence makes sense. Could you explain?
@@darrenfourie13 ndithi makanowabe kule ndawo akuyo.... Ashiyeke thina apha emzantsi
Being in New Zealand 28 years now. The first three years was quite difficult to settle in. Over time things improved and today looking back i feel blessed to had the opportunity to raised my children here. They all have great careers. Every country has its problems. Once a South African always a South African.
Sad to see great South Africans leaving because of crime and political rubbish. From my friend circle alone a bunch of well qualified and experienced professionals have left for the US, Canada, UK and Europe. On a simple level this means our high paying tax base is dwindling. On a more complex level skills are leaving this country in big numbers. I have lost too many friends who could not stand this country”s politics and where it is falling to anymore.
@roman... Spelling mistake in the title. 🫣