Ah yes, abusing the guard AI's broken priorities. Clearly there was no way Overkill could've anticipated that that could be abused in such a way. *Distant printer noises.*
The "Cuff and rescue" trick is funny and useful at the same time xd "Stop it!" "Somebody help Bodhi" "Don't move!" "Bodhi is downed!" "Freeze!" "Bodhi's downed!"
I remember seeing the poll for this, and my first thought was 'if Marc is mentioning it, then probably it can'. However I would assume it would have some weird gimmick (I commented this before it premiered)
The poll had some interesting results! Even more than the last poll I had done. Definitely some gimmicks will be attempted for this one: this time I included some spoilers into the timestamps!
Very evil! :D That would've worked in the same way yup, I wonder if you could make it work, or if 1 frame is simply not enough to trigger the escape...
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr I guess if the one not answering is fast enough he may be able to get into the escape zone before the one answering the pager needs to get kicked
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr Absolutely yup! You would kick them on that order so that the van only leaves as soon as "everyone" is on the escape. Or as *@Mauer* mentions, you could betray only one of the 2 jugglers, if you play it well. Someone actually brought to my attention that this might have been a better way to do that: with only one juggler left behind, you wouldn't have to worry about the small desync between molotov ticks, increasing the chance of success!
@@Marcmb You've tested that if you kick a heister who is answering a pager, it causes an alarm? Intuitively from a game design perspective I think it would make more sense if the pager time just continued counting down.
It's amazing how after so many years of payday I keep surprising myself with this game, I liked the strategy, bob serving as a distraction was the best haha
Thanks for participating, Kyro! Shame that we all died when Hector got tired of the timelock being paused and just walked out of the room to get rid of us. Surely this will be in the video! :p
@@Marcmb "sir, why are we not using this revolutionary new matter-replication tech to feed the hungry or produce infinite energy?" "Who do you think we are? The Payday Gang? We do war crimes here. Now get your minigun and suit up, the aforementioned crime gang has Dark Souls invaded our HQ."
I saw the poll this morning and thought "Surely the video isn't ALREADY out?" Well, this was a pretty informative video. Very creative getting your guy cuffed and uncuffed to avoid the alarm. Good stuff!
Haha yup! I posted the poll to get the general opinion on it, and shortly after released the true answer :p Glad you liked the goofy rush strategy, Turtle! Thank you very much :)
"Oh man, this criminal broke out of those first four hundred handcuffs like they were nothing. Maybe the next one will hold him better. Wait, was that a pistol clicking?"
Dude, this was so creative and mind blowing! Good thing I never doubted you guys :) The second I see that iconic "However, what if?" you just know there is a way..
I would think for the betrayal, one will keep juggling but the person who's armor breaks, juggles to the next person and waits for there armor to Regen and once you get to the van, kill them And take a shot everytime Bain has said "bodhi needs help" "bodhi is downed" "somebody help bodhi"
Ooh that would've been a very smart strategy if I needed more time to run to the van! We opted to just use Yakuza instead, but something like your suggestion would theoretically give us as much time as needed to extend the juggling until the time of death.
"hey do you think there's something up with joe? 2 different people are clearly answering his pager, and this has been going for the past minute or so" "nah its fine"
overkill should genuinely hire you all as play-testers for payday 3, the amount of knowledge of niche mechanics that you seem to possess is crazy, can’t wait to see what other “impossible” ecm heists get ecm rushed
Hahaha! It was really fun to execute, but very painful for ItWasBob, constantly getting cuffed (loud sound, camera moving...). Definitely quite broken :D
Haha true! The timing should be very similar to the attempt where we custodied them (so the van might leave anyway...), but it might be a few frames faster and allow us to escape. It would be very rude though! :D
When ya mentioned 'betrayal' I thought it was gonna involve a host kick on the one answering the pager but I'm not exactly sure how those work or if it'd work in this case.
Haha :D That would've been funny in a way, although very rude to the people getting kicked. We would need to test it, but it's likely that the timing would be the same as the attempt where we custodied them, with the van leaving a couple of frames before we can escape. Can't say for sure without testing though!
Hey mugoftoothpaste! That's part of PocoHUD, the HUD mod that I use. My modding video (in the description) has download links and install instructions for all my mods, if you're interested!
I know that it's late commenting to this video, but i wanted to ask 3:13 how do you use voice lines of the character like this? Is it a mod or a game feature that I never seen before?
Hey meto! That's a feature from my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. In the video description, I have a video with all my mods (with download links, install instructions...). Hope this helps! :)
these always somehow find a way to impress me, wouldnt another way to do this would be to circle around the guard? if i remember correctly that also breaks the guards priorities and stuff. nice vid :D
Thanks Striker! Glad you liked this one too :) Running circles around the guard would work, but as soon as he manages to catch up (which happens quite often...!) it would be over. This 2-player approach has a lot more safety!
@@Marcmb ok, got it. another question, would i be able to take only the voice part, like toggle the rest off? i have vanilla plus already and id want to keep it. if not then ill probably just use poco
@@thefirstjim I've never tried disabling Poco's features, but I'm sure you can disable most of it, ending up with only the voice menu... If you watch my video again, on the PocoHUD part I show all the ingame settings, and you can see all the options that can be disabled. I recommend starting there! But as I said, I've never tried that myself :(
Haha! We didn't notice that we were this close. Otherwise, we probably would've stayed for those extra 5 :D Glad you liked this very unusual strat Tom, thank you very much!
@@Marcmb I don't think those where up when it was premiering Certainly a creative solution, by the way, congrats! Do you think it could be possible to get more than one guard stuck cuffing the same heister, or is one the limit?
@@brylythhighlights4335 I modified them slightly, right after the premiere yup. Glad you liked the solution! :D As for the limit, I think it's actually just one... once the 2nd guard realizes that the heister is cuffed, he'll be able to start calling a bit earlier than the 1st guard. The timing is actually very tight: for any of the 64 cuff loops, if I had been just ~0.3-0.4s slower when uncuffing, the guard would already start his phone animation, failing the trick!
@@brylythhighlights4335 Very likely, yup! Looking at it in simple terms, it's the same as pager juggling, except that the guard doesn't need to die. Very powerful!
Marc, what about RPG or similar explosive instead of molotovs? They aren't affected as much as molotovs by animation desync and can kill host on pager and another guy with rpg in the same tick, while 2 others are in escape zone.
That's actually a very good suggestion, Danilkin! It would've solved the problem with molotov desync, because the blast should kill both players on the same frame. I'll check it out, out of curiosity :D
Hey twingo! That's one of the many features of the PocoHUD mod. If you want to see some details / download links / install instructions, or my settings, it's all in my modding video, in the description! :)
Hey Sebastian! As *@GVZ* mentions, there's a common mod that does the same thing, called XP Notifier... modworkshop.net/mod/28247 However, the one I use (which is slightly different) is not available on ModWorkshop. It was created by Frankelstner, the author of The Long Guide, and if you want this one specifically, the instructions to set it up can be found here! steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/
Haha yup! Kicking would've achieved essentially the same result. It would be so rude though! If the strategy succeeded, I wanted the juggler(s) to receive at least 70% of their deserved XP :p
was expecting the gaurd juggle from golden grin to make an appearance, where you sit on a table and try to force him to cuff you, or a body bag trick similar to counterfeit, but this also works . another vr fun fact, You can just teleport through the lazer fence and be just perfectly fine
Cop kiting (like Golden Grin) would've worked as well, indeed. But it's a bit too powerful, so I only use it when absolutely needed :D As for the VR tricks, you did mention you could simply teleport through lasers. Very very interesting!
@@Marcmb i tried joining the steam group to try some ecm rushes. i still have a lot to learn, but thanks for teleporting, anyone who does rushes that take side routes seems to go by a lot faster. I 100% need to do more testing though
@@chJohnJobs I saw you were joining Xenon's lobby this morning yup! Hopefully it went well :D As you say, it definitely takes a lot of practice, for some of the coordinated infamy farming strategies. Thinking about it now, it might be good to attempt them on PC first ("easy mode") and then re-run them on VR :p
@@Marcmb Well, the reason i tried vr first was to see what disadvantages I have. Aside from not knowing some maps fully. I.e elction day crowbar spawns. the main downside i see is some jump shortcuts cant be taken in VR. which for most rushes isnt a big downside given the fact i can speed through most sections on the normal path faster than a player could. I also found the ability of grabing bags behind me to be really handy in big bank
@@chJohnJobs Nothing wrong with jumping straight into it in VR, of course! As you say, you'll get a lot of useful information either way :p So does that mean that things like the window shortcut on Election Day (DAY2) can't be used in VR? Interesting. I can imagine that looting Big Bank in VR must be an amazing feeling... hopefully I can experience that someday :D
Hey Christian! It's not actually in the base game, but it's one of the features of my HUD mod (PocoHUD3). If you're interested in my mods, I have a video for that in the video description!
Hey Joseph! Unfortunately that's not vanilla :( it's part of my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. If you're interested, in the description I have my modding video, which has download links (and install instructions) for this mod.
Hey Alex! That's part of PocoHUD3. My modding video (in the description) has a section where this mod is shown, with download link and install instructions!
It's a mod to use your character's voice lines or the narrator's. If you want to download it, you can search up "Basic Voices Rebirthed" online! You can also look up a tutorial on how to download it and use it if you haven't used mods before :D
Hey Scooote! As *@Galaxy* mentioned, that's a feature from PocoHUD3. My modding video in the description has all my mods and their download links. Hope that helps! :)
Hey MrAzfar! That's one of the features of my HUD, which is PocoHUD. If you would like to test it, I have a MODDING VIDEO in the description, which has download links, and install instructions.
Hey Michal! That's in the normal version of the game. If you try to add a scope to your Locomotive, it's the only one that doesn't have a concealment penalty. Let me know if you can't find it! (I can give you the name later, when I'm in the game)
@@Marcmb no, this is the menu that you use with BOB to trigger the voice command, I made a mistake when typing the link, the correct menu I mean you use at 3:14
@@michalw0292 Oooh I see! I completely misunderstood :D As *@GVZ* said, that is PocoHUD. In the video description there's a link to my modding video, where all my mods are shown, with download links (including PocoHUD). Hope that helps!
This one is not so far from Counterfeit Stealth in terms of originality, not gonna lie Also, would it be more consistent in the "Betrayal" strategy to make one (or both) pager jugglers place Shaped Charges under them and tell one of them to blow themselves up when you will be in an escape zone?
Thank you very much, Miles! Glad you liked the new tricks, that's great to hear :D As for your suggestion, that might actually be better, yeah! Molotov ticks have a tiny bit of desync so both jugglers don't die at exactly the same frame, which causes problems. Trip mines might indeed solve that issue: I haven't used them too much for friendly fire so I don't know if they'll be perfectly synched, but it's definitely worth trying!
Hey jayden! The shotgun is called Locomotive 12G. I actually have a clip where I show all the weapon modifications: you can find it in my SAW BUILD video, which is linked in the description! Hope this helps :)
Excellent thinking Jullez! I can see you perfectly understood the essence of these two videos when watching them :D In fact, the reason I uploaded the _solo juggling_ video _later_ than this rush, is because this one would be trivialized with that technique! So I wanted to showcase the cuffing loops beforehand haha :D
Hey Elani! That's part of the HUD that I use, which is PocoHUD3. If you want more details, my modding video in the description has all the details for this HUD!
@@Marcmb also that glitch that happened to me on the cook off, it happened again with some friends. I don’t know how but it really useful. I would love to have on goat simulator heist.
@@Marcmb I didn’t happened only in Cook off. It happened on jewelry story death sentence one down ( my friend s thought it was easy in loud) I don’t know it on ps because they might have or not patch it, but it still on console.
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I've learned 2 things today
1) Bodhi is thankful
2) He is ready to settle the score
_Let's settle the score!_ ...as soon as I get out of these handcuffs, for the 64th time.
BoDhI's DoWnEd!
And I learned that the pager won't set off the alarm as long as one person is still using it
Ah yes, abusing the guard AI's broken priorities. Clearly there was no way Overkill could've anticipated that that could be abused in such a way. *Distant printer noises.*
Hey there Sleipnir! Indeed, broken AI priorities as usual... good old PAYDAY 2 logic :D
Aren't you odins horse?
respect for bodhi for sacrificing his wrists for the bag
Haha! Reading this out of context, one would never guess what went on, but funnily enough this is exactly what happened :p
@@Marcmb I read the comment before seeing what happens and genuinely i could have never guessed
@@Marcmb havent watched yet,i am wondering wtf happened rn
The "Cuff and rescue" trick is funny and useful at the same time xd
"Stop it!"
"Somebody help Bodhi"
"Don't move!"
"Bodhi is downed!"
"Freeze!"
"Bodhi's downed!"
Will somebody help Bodhi already!! :D
And meanwhile, the guard on the other side of the door doesn't question the situation at all :p
@@Marcmb They don't get paid enough to care about such unimportant thing as a burglar being continuously uncuffed through the wall
Guys, I think Bodhi is downed.
@@rollfizzlebeef5384 Probably should save them then!
@@rollfizzlebeef5384 Guys, the Bodhi go uncuff him.
damn, that cop was carrying 64 whole ass pairs of handcuffs on him
he was really anticipating taking down a small army all by himself.
Hahaha FACTS! Random guard has more handcuffs than the entire PAYDAY Gang combined. Impressive!
Did you mean: “A stack of handcuffs”
@@FriedRiceWarrior Hahaha! Minecraft jokes, very nice!
@@Marcmb Thanks man
Meanwhile the heisters can only carry 6 plastic cable zip ties at a time and when spooked will generate 3 more.
Walter is a true friend to everyone by busting his homie out of custody on numerous occasions. Great job walter.
:) Thanks a lot, Walterman! Glad you liked this one!
Thats a crazy strategy. I bet that guard was real confused trying to handcuff Houdini.
Glad you liked it, Blucario! That guard probably had never seen such a slippery heister :p
The most unexpected strategy on a ECM Rush video for sure, I really enjoy this one haha
Thank you GVZ! Definitely one of the most unusual cheese strats. Glad you liked that :D
@@Marcmb and this action can be realized to save other heist runs where you can do it just like this one?
@@spkoftdvl The same trick will work on any heist, yup! Just gotta be mindful of your arrest cooldown, and find a suitable spot!
I remember seeing the poll for this, and my first thought was 'if Marc is mentioning it, then probably it can'. However I would assume it would have some weird gimmick (I commented this before it premiered)
The poll had some interesting results! Even more than the last poll I had done. Definitely some gimmicks will be attempted for this one: this time I included some spoilers into the timestamps!
@@Marcmb gimmicks are very common with these unconventional heists. Either way I'm very excited to watch this
@@CharlesUK For sure yup :D Always some unconventional solutions, to make such things possible! Hope you enjoyed it!
Tbh, when I saw the Betray option, my first thought was kicking both jugglers. to instant escape
hey that was my idea.
but killing them makes more sense i guess
Very evil! :D That would've worked in the same way yup, I wonder if you could make it work, or if 1 frame is simply not enough to trigger the escape...
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr
I guess if the one not answering is fast enough he may be able to get into the escape zone before the one answering the pager needs to get kicked
@Me and the boiz restarting the ussr Absolutely yup! You would kick them on that order so that the van only leaves as soon as "everyone" is on the escape.
Or as *@Mauer* mentions, you could betray only one of the 2 jugglers, if you play it well. Someone actually brought to my attention that this might have been a better way to do that: with only one juggler left behind, you wouldn't have to worry about the small desync between molotov ticks, increasing the chance of success!
@@Marcmb You've tested that if you kick a heister who is answering a pager, it causes an alarm? Intuitively from a game design perspective I think it would make more sense if the pager time just continued counting down.
I thought the betrayal strategy would be kicking the two jugglers 💀
Hahaha! In fact, that would actually have achieved the same. Theoretically, it should work! It would be kinda rude though 💀💀
i was thinking the same thing
ah yes, the "abuse the AI" strategy. a classic payday strategy.
alternate title: "bodhi gets into roleplay with a guard while the gang bullies hector"
A true classic indeed, good old PAYDAY2 :p
Man alive, I knew you could find a way, but I wasn't expecting _that._
Hahaha! This is by far one of the goofiest solutions to an impossible ECM rush :D
It's amazing how after so many years of payday I keep surprising myself with this game, I liked the strategy, bob serving as a distraction was the best haha
Glad you enjoyed this one Gabriel :D Indeed, Bob fulfilled very well his role as a distraction!
Mom, I'm in the video!!!
Thanks for having me, Marc! It was fun!
Why's this always the typical comment? XD Nonetheless, good to see you in the crew!! :D
Thanks for participating, Kyro! Shame that we all died when Hector got tired of the timelock being paused and just walked out of the room to get rid of us. Surely this will be in the video! :p
@@theofficialdoc_313 Next time - Special Guest: Doc! :D
@@theofficialdoc_313 Thanks Glock... I mean Doc!
Judge : how many crimes did you commit
Itwasbob : 64 counts of theft
Judge : you are free to go
Looks like an innocent person to me! :p
@@Marcmb bro same
love that even 9 years after release, people are still finding ways to break the heists in the silliest ways possible
:D Glad you liked it Sebastian! Thank you very much :)
Bodhi got down!
“Argh now lets get even”
Somebody help Bodhi!
“Argh let’s settle this”
Will somebody please help Bodhi 😢
At least bodhi got his leg day in with all of that crouching when getting cuffed.
You have a lot in common with Wand of Sparking, definitely one of my favorite youtubers now.
Not as bad as the Alesso Heist, but still a convoluted ECM rush.
Phew! Thankfully not as bad as The Alesso Heist. That one has been the hardest one so far... by a mile!
You make really good videos. You teach us the heist without skipping the smallest detail. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words, BURAK! Much appreciated :) glad you're enjoying the content!
the guard be like: "who tf uncuffing this du- FREEZE!"
Hahaha yup! Really questionable how he keeps falling for it over and over :D
that cop had 64 pairs of handcuffs behind bodhi's ears at any given moment and was just WAITING to pull out his sick wizard skills
Haha! He was ready for _anything!_ Funnily enough, a random guard in that house had more handcuffs than a professional heister...
@@Marcmb heh, murkywater tech perhaps?
@@trigger7ff6 That would be nice! In-universe, it would be a very nice way to introduce additional handcuffs :p
@@Marcmb "sir, why are we not using this revolutionary new matter-replication tech to feed the hungry or produce infinite energy?"
"Who do you think we are? The Payday Gang? We do war crimes here. Now get your minigun and suit up, the aforementioned crime gang has Dark Souls invaded our HQ."
@@trigger7ff6 Haha pretty much! The lore of the game just keeps getting crazier :D
I saw the poll this morning and thought "Surely the video isn't ALREADY out?"
Well, this was a pretty informative video. Very creative getting your guy cuffed and uncuffed to avoid the alarm. Good stuff!
Haha yup! I posted the poll to get the general opinion on it, and shortly after released the true answer :p
Glad you liked the goofy rush strategy, Turtle! Thank you very much :)
"Oh man, this criminal broke out of those first four hundred handcuffs like they were nothing. Maybe the next one will hold him better. Wait, was that a pistol clicking?"
Not the smartest guard, that's for sure... haha! :D
9:09 Guard: NOOOO! you can't just escape from my thousand stacked handcuffs.
Marcmb: Haha bob go uncuffff.
Haha! The best part is that the guards have endless handcuffs, but they don't question at all when they aren't working in any way :p
That really was some off-the-cuff thinking!
Haha good one! 10/10 :D
I never thought about something like this. Well done!
:D Thanks randomassault! Glad you liked the strategy :)
What a clever way to ecm rush this job, well done!
Thank you very much, Io! Glad you liked it :D
10:56 ahh yes tons of fun. I’m more laughing here at just the payday 2 ai system here. Just perfect and hilarious
100% perfect with no mistakes and no oversights :p
I did voted you absolutely can ECM rushed this. Nice strat, you sure knew almost every details to the game. Hat off to you and the guys.
Thanks for having faith, Elbard! Glad you liked this very unusual strategy, much appreciated :D
Dude, this was so creative and mind blowing! Good thing I never doubted you guys :)
The second I see that iconic "However, what if?" you just know there is a way..
:D Thanks a lot for the nice comment, V7X! Glad you're enjoying the impossible ECM rushes, and the "what if"'s :)
Bob absolutely carried. Gj Bob!
Hahaha
Can confirm Bob carried! Absolutely flawless performance :D
@@gabrielbucher3509 Hey there Gabriel! Thank you for watching :p
The thumbnail said it all. I knew when I saw that little stat that something wacky was going to happen. And wacky it was indeed.
Man you're a genius.
Very kind of you Herobrine! Thank you, and glad you liked it :D
I would think for the betrayal, one will keep juggling but the person who's armor breaks, juggles to the next person and waits for there armor to Regen and once you get to the van, kill them
And take a shot everytime Bain has said "bodhi needs help" "bodhi is downed" "somebody help bodhi"
Ooh that would've been a very smart strategy if I needed more time to run to the van! We opted to just use Yakuza instead, but something like your suggestion would theoretically give us as much time as needed to extend the juggling until the time of death.
"hey do you think there's something up with joe? 2 different people are clearly answering his pager, and this has been going for the past minute or so"
"nah its fine"
Haha! Just another day at the job I guess :p
Damn it was so unexpected for me, I laughed a lot, thanks!
:D That's great to hear, Darth Fierce! Glad you enjoyed it!
I am shocked with this strats, nice!
Thank you very much, juan! Glad you liked this very unusual strategy :p
Another win for the ECM legion!
Also, very funi stack at the end.
Another win indeed! Glad you liked it Tails :D
Nice tries!! I like it when people outsmart the game
Thank you very much Timskee! Glad you liked it :D
Great trick with the handcuffing. wouldln't have thought of that :D
Glad you liked the trick Nosgard! One more goofy mechanic to add to the repertoire of a stealth heister :p
Wow you really do make everything possible in this game! :D
Thanks Galaxy! The possibilities are infinite :p
overkill should genuinely hire you all as play-testers for payday 3, the amount of knowledge of niche mechanics that you seem to possess is crazy, can’t wait to see what other “impossible” ecm heists get ecm rushed
I need a Cook Off rush lol
:D Thanks Sarahdumby! It would actually be an honor to be given the opportunity. We'll see what they do for their Q&A and their alpha testing! :p
This is definitely the most painful strat I've seen so far.
Absolutely love how broken Payday 2 is
Hahaha! It was really fun to execute, but very painful for ItWasBob, constantly getting cuffed (loud sound, camera moving...). Definitely quite broken :D
@@Marcmb Hello Marcmb! Your videos are great! Can you tell me is it possible to use this menu with other hud(wolfhud)?
Amazing video as they all are, I have a question, can I know what is the mod that makes the characters speak? min 3:13
Thanks!
I think the one on the video is PocoHud or you can use the Radial Vocalizer mod too!
Thank you PB! Glad you're enjoying the content :)
As *@GVZ* has mentioned, the one I'm using comes with PocoHUD. There are other options, too!
"How many times you want me to be cuffed?"
" *_yes_* "
Probably even the World Record for most times downed in a single heist :D
You could technicaly kick the jugglers to escape with one other mate. The true betrayal strategy
Haha true! The timing should be very similar to the attempt where we custodied them (so the van might leave anyway...), but it might be a few frames faster and allow us to escape. It would be very rude though! :D
The Cuff Counter was just beautiful. XD
Haha! Glad you liked that DrNGinfan, it was Bob's idea :D
9:05 Canon juggle. It makes sense doesn't require any sweet talk.
It definitely makes a lot more sense than the usual juggle where you're constantly restarting the pager! :D
Almir is gonna be real furious when he sees this one, going to be like counterfelt
Hahaha! Hopefully they won't consider it as bad... On the bright side, this one doesn't have the potential for infinite XP in stealth :D
When ya mentioned 'betrayal' I thought it was gonna involve a host kick on the one answering the pager but I'm not exactly sure how those work or if it'd work in this case.
Haha :D That would've been funny in a way, although very rude to the people getting kicked.
We would need to test it, but it's likely that the timing would be the same as the attempt where we custodied them, with the van leaving a couple of frames before we can escape. Can't say for sure without testing though!
HEY! A CRIMINAL! Cuffed. HEY! A CRIMINAL! Cuffed. HEY! A CRIMINAL! Cuffed. HEY! A CRIMINAL! Cuffed. HEY! A CRIMI- What's that beeping? *death sounds*
And the poor man didn't even suspect anything, after a whole 64 cuffs... unlucky! :p
3:13
Hey, I was wondering what mod you had here? The one that opened the panel to all the different phases (Like when you responded hello)
Hey mugoftoothpaste! That's part of PocoHUD, the HUD mod that I use. My modding video (in the description) has download links and install instructions for all my mods, if you're interested!
kinda figured you would juggle the pagers but yet again you have suprsied me
Glad you liked that, Avid! Indeed, our first guess was pager juggling, but the strategy was flawed :p
@@Marcmbas always will be waiting for more in the future
@@avidwashingtondccivilian7248 Thank you as usual Avid :D Much appreciated!
I know that it's late commenting to this video, but i wanted to ask 3:13 how do you use voice lines of the character like this? Is it a mod or a game feature that I never seen before?
Hey meto! That's a feature from my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. In the video description, I have a video with all my mods (with download links, install instructions...). Hope this helps! :)
@@Marcmb Thank you so much!
The guard just thinks: "Why is this guy magically uncuffing himself? Eh I need to work 16 hours anyways, might aswell waste time like this"
Hahah that's probably what was going through his head yup. Not questioning it, just doing his job! :D
Juggling with the broken guard priority feels like bullying a autistic kid
these always somehow find a way to impress me, wouldnt another way to do this would be to circle around the guard? if i remember correctly that also breaks the guards priorities and stuff. nice vid :D
Thanks Striker! Glad you liked this one too :)
Running circles around the guard would work, but as soon as he manages to catch up (which happens quite often...!) it would be over. This 2-player approach has a lot more safety!
3:13
whats the mod you use for the chat, i cant seem to find it anywhere and id love to use it as well
Hey jim! That's a function of my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. If you go to my modding video (in the description), you'll find the download links there!
@@Marcmb ok, got it. another question, would i be able to take only the voice part, like toggle the rest off? i have vanilla plus already and id want to keep it. if not then ill probably just use poco
@@thefirstjim I've never tried disabling Poco's features, but I'm sure you can disable most of it, ending up with only the voice menu...
If you watch my video again, on the PocoHUD part I show all the ingame settings, and you can see all the options that can be disabled. I recommend starting there! But as I said, I've never tried that myself :(
@@Marcmb got it, ill try that then. thanks again
@@thefirstjim Best of luck :) Happy to help.
Good content. Keep it up
Thanks a lot prigadiri! Glad you enjoyed this one too :) I'll do my best to keep it up!
Couldn't you have gone for 69 downs instead of 64? lol
In any case, this was such an interesting strategy. GG!
Haha! We didn't notice that we were this close. Otherwise, we probably would've stayed for those extra 5 :D
Glad you liked this very unusual strat Tom, thank you very much!
The part where there's a video tells me there's a solution, or it's real hecking close.
It might be very very close, we'll see! There's some spoilers in the timestamps, in the video description :p
@@Marcmb I don't think those where up when it was premiering
Certainly a creative solution, by the way, congrats!
Do you think it could be possible to get more than one guard stuck cuffing the same heister, or is one the limit?
@@brylythhighlights4335 I modified them slightly, right after the premiere yup. Glad you liked the solution! :D
As for the limit, I think it's actually just one... once the 2nd guard realizes that the heister is cuffed, he'll be able to start calling a bit earlier than the 1st guard. The timing is actually very tight: for any of the 64 cuff loops, if I had been just ~0.3-0.4s slower when uncuffing, the guard would already start his phone animation, failing the trick!
@@Marcmb Ah, thanks!
Do you think we'll be seeing this trick again in other heists with ECM locked objectives?
@@brylythhighlights4335 Very likely, yup! Looking at it in simple terms, it's the same as pager juggling, except that the guard doesn't need to die. Very powerful!
bodhis wrist need to be checked after that for sure
Imagine going through that 64 times in a row...
Marc, what about RPG or similar explosive instead of molotovs?
They aren't affected as much as molotovs by animation desync and can kill host on pager and another guy with rpg in the same tick, while 2 others are in escape zone.
That's actually a very good suggestion, Danilkin! It would've solved the problem with molotov desync, because the blast should kill both players on the same frame. I'll check it out, out of curiosity :D
3:12 what dialog menu is that?
Hey twingo! That's one of the many features of the PocoHUD mod. If you want to see some details / download links / install instructions, or my settings, it's all in my modding video, in the description! :)
@@Marcmb thanks! i use voidui, so thats kinda :/ but i will look into pocohud
Wich is the mod that shows the XP gained on the top of your screen?
XP Tracker
Hey Sebastian! As *@GVZ* mentions, there's a common mod that does the same thing, called XP Notifier... modworkshop.net/mod/28247
However, the one I use (which is slightly different) is not available on ModWorkshop. It was created by Frankelstner, the author of The Long Guide, and if you want this one specifically, the instructions to set it up can be found here! steamcommunity.com/groups/pd2mech/discussions/0/357286119110558745/
I was thinking kick one of the juggling players while the other runs to the escape with the betrayal part, but downing them makes more sense haha
Haha yup! Kicking would've achieved essentially the same result. It would be so rude though! If the strategy succeeded, I wanted the juggler(s) to receive at least 70% of their deserved XP :p
@@Marcmb nothing says betrayal more than using your friends for XP while they get nothing :P
@@kitandrei Haha! I can't deny that, unfortunately :D
There is a way
Instead of juggling pager juggle the arrest/shooting attempt
It only requires one heister to do which has not been arrested
That's 100% correct yup! This would be a very clear example where the "solo juggling" that I showcased in my recent video would work very well :D
was expecting the gaurd juggle from golden grin to make an appearance, where you sit on a table and try to force him to cuff you, or a body bag trick similar to counterfeit, but this also works .
another vr fun fact, You can just teleport through the lazer fence and be just perfectly fine
Cop kiting (like Golden Grin) would've worked as well, indeed. But it's a bit too powerful, so I only use it when absolutely needed :D
As for the VR tricks, you did mention you could simply teleport through lasers. Very very interesting!
@@Marcmb i tried joining the steam group to try some ecm rushes.
i still have a lot to learn, but thanks for teleporting, anyone who does rushes that take side routes seems to go by a lot faster.
I 100% need to do more testing though
@@chJohnJobs I saw you were joining Xenon's lobby this morning yup! Hopefully it went well :D
As you say, it definitely takes a lot of practice, for some of the coordinated infamy farming strategies. Thinking about it now, it might be good to attempt them on PC first ("easy mode") and then re-run them on VR :p
@@Marcmb Well, the reason i tried vr first was to see what disadvantages I have.
Aside from not knowing some maps fully.
I.e elction day crowbar spawns.
the main downside i see is some jump shortcuts cant be taken in VR.
which for most rushes isnt a big downside
given the fact i can speed through most sections on the normal path faster than a player could.
I also found the ability of grabing bags behind me to be really handy in big bank
@@chJohnJobs Nothing wrong with jumping straight into it in VR, of course! As you say, you'll get a lot of useful information either way :p
So does that mean that things like the window shortcut on Election Day (DAY2) can't be used in VR? Interesting.
I can imagine that looting Big Bank in VR must be an amazing feeling... hopefully I can experience that someday :D
3:42 ThEASE
Haha! Pager voicelines being cut off because of the juggling :D
Wait a minute.
Since has this been in the game(3:15)?
Hey Christian! It's not actually in the base game, but it's one of the features of my HUD mod (PocoHUD3). If you're interested in my mods, I have a video for that in the video description!
@@Marcmb Ohh, That's great, I've been wanting to install some mods for a while now, definitely going to check it
Thanks
@@christhiantrevisan8084 No problem! Glad I could help :)
When did they add all of those voice commands? The "hello" and 10+ more that popped up on your screen
Hey Joseph! Unfortunately that's not vanilla :( it's part of my HUD mod, which is PocoHUD3. If you're interested, in the description I have my modding video, which has download links (and install instructions) for this mod.
What was that popup menu you pulled up to say “Hello”? It seems like an interesting mod.
Hey Alex! That's part of PocoHUD3. My modding video (in the description) has a section where this mod is shown, with download link and install instructions!
I wanna see what jobs in Crime Spree can be ECM rushed next
please? :P
Hey kaneta! After doing a few more videos for impossible ECM rushes, I definitely wanna showcase some of them on the Crime Spree mode. Stay tuned! :D
3:11 Is this voice menu thing a mod or is it base game? If it is base game, how do you use it? It looks really fun to mess around with
It's a mod to use your character's voice lines or the narrator's. If you want to download it, you can search up "Basic Voices Rebirthed" online! You can also look up a tutorial on how to download it and use it if you haven't used mods before :D
^Though the one Marc uses is a feature with PocoHUD3, if you want to go for that instead his mod is in the description :p
Hey Scooote! As *@Galaxy* mentioned, that's a feature from PocoHUD3. My modding video in the description has all my mods and their download links. Hope that helps! :)
Im gonna miss pd2 and all its gameplay styles, ecm jamming, it will be so so different in pd3
Same! Some of these playstyles will disappear, although new ones will also appear. I look forward to all the changes! :D
@@Marcmb :D
Congrats bob for the most downed person in one mission!
Easy World Record!
If Bob missed leg day he sure got his workout in there.
Give me 64 squats! :D
how to do that voice emote thingy? 3:13
Hey MrAzfar! That's one of the features of my HUD, which is PocoHUD. If you would like to test it, I have a MODDING VIDEO in the description, which has download links, and install instructions.
Im curious if the new golden grin jammed keypad pannel bypass can work with ecm jammed timers...
Hey Moke! For this timelock here, the way it works is completely different, so the GGC trick would not have any effect here :(
3:11 is this a mod or is it in the normal version of the game?
if not, can I get the modification name, please?
Hey Michal! That's in the normal version of the game. If you try to add a scope to your Locomotive, it's the only one that doesn't have a concealment penalty. Let me know if you can't find it! (I can give you the name later, when I'm in the game)
@@Marcmb no, this is the menu that you use with BOB to trigger the voice command, I made a mistake when typing the link, the correct menu I mean you use at 3:14
@@michalw0292 PocoHud
@@michalw0292 Oooh I see! I completely misunderstood :D As *@GVZ* said, that is PocoHUD. In the video description there's a link to my modding video, where all my mods are shown, with download links (including PocoHUD). Hope that helps!
how do you use the voice menu thing 3:20
Hey Jotaro! That's PocoHUD. Check out my modding video in the description for download link and install instructions!
thanks
Wow i really didn’t think it was possible
:) Glad you liked it, Burgerr!
This one is not so far from Counterfeit Stealth in terms of originality, not gonna lie
Also, would it be more consistent in the "Betrayal" strategy to make one (or both) pager jugglers place Shaped Charges under them and tell one of them to blow themselves up when you will be in an escape zone?
Thank you very much, Miles! Glad you liked the new tricks, that's great to hear :D
As for your suggestion, that might actually be better, yeah! Molotov ticks have a tiny bit of desync so both jugglers don't die at exactly the same frame, which causes problems. Trip mines might indeed solve that issue: I haven't used them too much for friendly fire so I don't know if they'll be perfectly synched, but it's definitely worth trying!
Imagine if they release a bug fix
- getting cuffed in stealth takes ur downs
That could be an easy fix, very true! They do count as downs on the heist success screen, after all...
at 3:15 you used a mod, what is it
Hey furret! That's PocoHUD3, I have the details and download link in my Modding video, which is in the description!
@@Marcmb ey thanks man :)
@@takinames You're absolutely welcome :)
This is the stupidest thing I have even seen and I love it.
Very goofy for sure! Glad you liked it Brady :D
3:14 what the name of this mod
Hey BBk! That's included in the PocoHUD3 mod. The modding video in the description has its download link, and install instructions. Hope that helps!
9:29
"Stop it! 😡"
Haha! _Stop it right there!_ 😠
Poor man is going crazy, and getting tired of it :D
what shotgun do you use and if you don't mind how did you kit it out?
Hey jayden! The shotgun is called Locomotive 12G. I actually have a clip where I show all the weapon modifications: you can find it in my SAW BUILD video, which is linked in the description! Hope this helps :)
I wont even be surprised if the next video is ecm rushing hoxton breakout
Maybe someday!! After I'm done rushing all the impossible stealth heists, surely I'll need a challenge elsewhere :p
I have a idea to deal with the 5th pager, someone can solo juggle him and then its succes with stealth bonus
Excellent thinking Jullez! I can see you perfectly understood the essence of these two videos when watching them :D
In fact, the reason I uploaded the _solo juggling_ video _later_ than this rush, is because this one would be trivialized with that technique! So I wanted to showcase the cuffing loops beforehand haha :D
@@Marcmb :)
The guard that handcuff heister after this heist done
You fired
You would think that, after repeating that 3 or 4 times, he would start to suspect something's wrong :p
@@Marcmb something wrong i can feel it but i will do it anyway
Very unique trick!
Thank you h3ll! Glad you liked this cheese trick :p we'll have to find some more uses for it now! :D
Frkn awesome!
Thank you very much, Stauxio! Glad you liked it :D
Oh damn it’s here I didn’t even realise 🏃♂️
I knew it was gonna be possible LMAO
It's here yup! Fresh new upload :D
And thanks for having faith TD! Indeed, a mere 60s ECM-jammed timelock is not enough to stop us :p
What's the mod that lets you choose all those voicelines to play?
Hey Elani! That's part of the HUD that I use, which is PocoHUD3. If you want more details, my modding video in the description has all the details for this HUD!
Wow...yah that is definitely one way to do it...
Haha! Thanks for watching Marshmellow, hope you liked it :D
Hey I wonder if you remember me but you have grown, I remember when you made tips on counterfeit stealth
Hey there Nugget! I do remember you yeah :D and your Reddit post too! Thanks for sticking around :p
@@Marcmb also that glitch that happened to me on the cook off, it happened again with some friends. I don’t know how but it really useful. I would love to have on goat simulator heist.
@@nuggetclone8406 Still hasn't happened to me! I probably don't play Cook Off enough :p
@@Marcmb I didn’t happened only in Cook off. It happened on jewelry story death sentence one down ( my friend s thought it was easy in loud) I don’t know it on ps because they might have or not patch it, but it still on console.
@@nuggetclone8406 It might indeed be patched on PC yup, just one of those things that never got fixed on console because of the update problems :(