Steven Crowder: $50M Daily Wire Offer Is a “Slave Contract”
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50 million dollars? That’s practically slavery - according to Steven Crowder, at least. Crowder recently released a video starting the “Stop Big Con” initiative - accusing conservative media outlets of conspiring to censor conservative values in favor of profit. All of this because the Daily Wire offered him a contract of $50 million to make regular content - with the stipulation of pay cuts if he loses ad revenue. Crowder wasn’t a fan - saying it was a “slave contract.”
The Daily Wire quickly responded with a video - saying that Crowder took much on the contract out of context. And that they were planning on paying him the 50 million over four years and that the stipulations listed were necessary to run a profitable business. They went on to accuse Crowder of expecting millions of dollars in payment even if his show didn’t drive that level of revenue. And a couple big conservative names chimed in against Crowder - like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens - throwing fuel on the fire of this feud.
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It’s amazing how you butcher this up
Your a clown! Looking the mirror n reflect on your values that contract infringes on freedom of speech!
Please do your job and mention what Crowders actual point was, and that’s the fact that the contract is stifling to new blood by punishing them when TH-cam decides to retardedly enforce its guidelines and demonetize folks for stupid or fake reasons. Thereby their contract is supporting the BigTech they complain about. Crowder did a good thing here, and he didn’t even call the Daily Wire out; they outed themselves and then he responded with the phone recording.
@@Naxel4359 he won't he is paid by the daily wire to bash Crowder
He tried to negotiate with them, it would totally change the show & how he does things on his very successful show. I honestly feel that the DW needs him more than he needs them, he is one of the top voices from the conservative side of things.
The Daily Wire dodged a $50mil bullet by not signing on this sad angry manlet.
"Manlet" 😂😂😂😂
I mean the Daily Wire is already run by a manley so you know do you.
Christianity is done!!!!
Keep it up. 🙂
Manlet, steve crowder, the 188 cm man, a ""manlet""
When im in a being delusional out of spite contest and my opponent is a leftists: 😢
Manlet? Projecting much
Steven made it clear that it wasn’t about the money. It was being beholden to sponsors and their censorship.
so true! (that's why he asked for 150 million)
Just bc someone says ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY… doesn’t mean it isn’t about the money😂
If it wasn’t about money he wouldn’t have a problem losing his wages if he got demonetized on TH-cam.
@@Jose-oj6qy He said Monday night that the censorship was a non-starter. His agent might have retorted the 150mil number but he made it clear that he would not have accepted that contract as is at 150mil either
More about the hard strikes, because it doesn't matter how much they're paying you if they take 75% away because you cover a story that media doesn't like and they try to ban you for it, then DW would take all his money in his contract from him. Then he wouldn't even have money for lawyer fees to fight a strike against his channel.
I didn’t know cutting pay when you make less was something he didn’t believe in. Guess capitalism sucks too much for him
He never said it was slave labor. That was actually the Daily Wire that described their contributors' compensation as "...take the slave wages and try to build their brand..."
The video I watched of Crowder, he is the one that said "This is basically a slave contract" or something to that extent
Crowder was on timcast earlier and actually explained his side and when you hear his side it actually gets more interesting
who would have thought that knowing both sides of an issue could be important to understanding it.... nah, can't be.
@@bobowon5450 well i hold no issue with having an initial judgment so long as you keep an open mind and wait till all the facts are out to make a final judgment
@@goodolrainbowpet Making a judgement before the facts come out is the exact opposite of waiting for the facts to come out.
@skillzorz101 when you hear a story about someone committing heinous actions do you say "wow if thats true thats messed up" or do you say "well i dont know and will say nothing about a story"
@@bobowon5450well knowing Phil defranco he always sides with big corporations and who ever is closer to the establishment he will repeat their side.
They didn't offer Steven crowder 50 million. They offered Steven 50 million to run his production company for them to monetize.
In a contract that was meant to be rejected. Companies will always lowball you on the initial draft of the contract because they don’t want you to ask above your worth. The Daily Wire likely wanted to pay him more, but he’s an idiot who doesn’t understand how business works so he used this as a way to flame a company that did nothing to him! I’m not saying the Daily Wire is a good or even just company, but I am saying Crowder is the one acting in bad faith here.
@@gummygrenade candice??
@@myopinionsmayoffendyou Real mature.
@@gummygrenade how is he acting in bad faith here?? He didn't reject it because of the money amount which the DW may or may not have been willing to negotiate on, he rejected it because of the terms which they wouldn't budge on
@@gummygrenade it would take a mature person to be able to see past that wolf in sheep's clothing act and notice it was Candice, so yes I agree, real mature your right
He isn't actually paid that full amount because he still has to pay for the production that goes into the videos.
It would still be a shit tone of money and if that is slavery I want to be a slave
It shows the true colors of these places miss representing this. I don't think it's an accident it's exactly what the mainstream does and big tech.
Yes, thank you...Only a moron would sign a contract that puts all the risk on yourself while giving any and all benefits to someone else!
Finally someone mentions this fact
Crowder is fully in the wrong. He tried to negotiate for 120 million and was salty when they told him off. He didn't have a deal with the wire and his contract was up with blaze so he is just salty.
$50M was not his salary, that was the cost for his entire production staff and producing content
the fifty over 4 years was absolutely to be paid to him. problem- he doesn’t produce near that money.
50$ for his company to produce a show over 4 years
@@bigbrain4820 except in the contract it stated that Crowder bears all expenses for production of his show making that "payout" a budget and one that can be cut at the whim of an uninvolved third party who both entities DW and Crowder directly opposed and want to disrupt.
What is he saying is production is gonna cost him half of the 12 million dollars a year 🤔 then he is paying his cfo and staff very well he wanted 130 he woulda shut up then but this is all a big problem because he broke the number 2 rule don't recored people without telling them and call them friends and out it out to the public who is absolutely destroying him if there was a poll it would be 7-3 for daily wire crowder was wrong for recording and making public and those harsh 3rd world terms he just can't stand for was a initial offer it wasn't even a contract it was pre contract talk
@@impulsivereply9360 Go home, you're drunk.
Isn’t that dude who yelled at his pregnant wife to walk the dog??
Yeah as he should
To give the dog its medication. She didn't feel comfortable handling the medication as she was pregnant.
@@Profile.4VIRGIN
@@BeeHatGuy guess my two kids were delivered via stork 😆
@@Profile.4man. I feel bad for that mom
Bit awkward, considering that Crowder mocked Colin Kaepernick for saying NFL contracts were slave contracts.
Not really because they aren't.
@@joshuakelly9390 they both aren't slave contracts, that's why it's awkward and hypocritical. Crowder knows his audience doesn't know anything about contract negotiations, that's why he's weaponizing this term sheet.
You guys obviously didn’t watch the vid. It’s not about the money. He says it time and time again
@Cam Franson but he was still offered 50 million. Just to be on the same page, its 7 zeros after the 5.
Or 50,0000,000 dollars.
It just shows how spoiled he is calling it a slave contract no matter the context
@@Random_dud31 No, that makes you a shill. How are you this dense? It's literally not about the money for him.
"Oooh ooh ah ah!! Zeroes! Money! Big number. Big numbah!!!!! how high monkey jump??!!?"
It is foolish to denounce a man without listening to his opinion at all
Yep. Definitely need both sides. From a business perspective I’m with Crowder. I wouldn’t have taken the deal. From a moral standpoint, I don’t think Crowder should’ve tried to tarnish DWs credibility. DW did nothing wrong, by the deal was not beneficial for Crowder.
@@boredmartymcfly6099 he didnt out them, DW jumped on the sword all by themselves.
DW is doing wrong with those terms, they tell their paying subscribers that they're fighting censorship, big tech, etc. Meanwhile behind the scenes they are punishing their creators FOR big tech.
@@boredmartymcfly6099 daily wire outed themselves. 🤷♂️ he never once mentioned them.
@@FullOnStriker I think when DW outed themselves it was under the assumption that their viewers aren’t idiots. People were going to figure out it was them.
Like I said, I don’t think Crowder should’ve taken the deal. It is hard for me to see this through the lens of “DW is big tech now” mindset though. They are playing with the hand they’re dealt by the liberal platforms until they can make enough money to support their own platforms like DW+ and their kids series that’s in the works. I don’t think there is malicious intent here and for Crowder to call them Big Con and Slave contractors makes it clear he felt attacked in a malicious way. Crowder just wants to do business differently, which is fine, although it is interesting that he’s calling out DW while still running things on TH-cam in addition to MugClub… which is a remarkably similar model to The Daily Wire’s.
@@lawrence5384 This is true, but the Daily Wire is the largest conservative news company platform aside from Fox. I think DW was just trying to preempt the viewers asking questions.
Does Defranco ever go deeper than the headlines in a story anymore?
No
It's a 60 second TH-cam short what did you expect
Nope. 12 plus years ago sure. Now, I think he is party line D but in fairness. I stopped watching long ago. y is he in my feed! lol
DiFranco never did just a tool of the machine
He always was trash
“Wage slave” was Jeremy’s term, not Steven’s. Stop misrepresenting the situation
The $50 mil was for his entire show production over 4 years. Some of the deductions they could make on a per diem were insane and if someone was naive or new to the space they could have been under a backwards contract.
That 50 Million covers production and his 30 person team. It’s not like he pockets the 50 Million.
Surface level comments about greed that don't look any deeper than this short will get 1000s of likes while this gets 3. Shortform media was a mistake.
Steven actually stipulated that the problem was never the pay, but the oenalties, the fact that 0% of merch would go to him or his brand and the ammount of content that's required for him to make
so he should have negotiated those points, not just fly off the handle.
@@Jake-yf3gv he did
@@Choochooie From my understanding Stephen Crowder didn’t do that. He basically had told the Daily Wire he wanted $120 million, that he wasn’t going to negotiate the current term sheet, and for them (Daily Wire) to send a new one. He wasn’t interested in actually negotiating.
@@mattsco10 and that bit of info came from the DW and each of their creators keep saying the same thing this is propaganda campaign and no one wins.
@@Jake-yf3gv pretty sure he mentioned DW was unwilling to negotiate on that
$50 million for full production with a 100% chance that almost half the money would be cut when TH-cam starts throwing more strikes without reason
It was for the whole company. It was one hundred percent a lowball
He has provided no evidence
@@Coastpsych_fi99 no you’re not smart enough to see the evidence
@@anthonykilo2260 lol crowder even admits he didn’t own his own email list 😂 Blaze owns it…so he really don’t have a company
@@VOLUMEnightclub so they offered him 50 million for what?
@@VOLUMEnightclub - Your standards for what makes a company is laughably childish.
Its not about the money… its about sending a message.
I was looking for this comment
🌽 asf
@@yhnah1329 🤡
@@finderskeepers9106 weird
A message filled with $100 bills
Crowder wasn't talking about his contract. He was pointing out how this could greatly hurt other smaller, up and coming content creators. He is completely right about it. The "slave contract" was a term used by the DW, not crowder. Use the facts. He said the money was never a factor for him. Use facts, not a twisted version of half facts.
Steven doesn't claim it's a slave contract. Jeremy did
Crowder destroyed their argument last night.
He’s a socialist, do the math $50 million in 4 years is a slave wage? If crowder was working for 24 hours straight he would’ve made $34,246 (20k less than the average salary) if he calls that corrupt he’s calling capitalism corrupt.
@@mkd2228 your an idiot lol
If you just believe everything he says - sure. But everybody destroys everybody if you just believe what every single person says.
@@Matt-wf7ry it's not about believing anything. It was his mannerisms, body language, and reactions. Like this one.
Jeremy said "I thought we were friends." When crowder recorded a call.
And on Timcast, they were going over obviously non-sense and egregious terms that were apparently "blanket contracts they give to everyone" that's not exactly the term anyone used but basically what it was.
And Tim said something like "I don't understand why they would send obvious horrible terms in their offer, that seems disrespectful, knowing that your guaranteed to incur these penalties if you would accept the contract" and crowder responded "I thought we were friends."
It was just things like that. I didn't say he was right. With the information we are provided, his side of the story seems to be more genuine, after that Timcast episode.
The only thing Crowder can destroy is his own shitty heart
Grab popcorn and watch this bloodbath
I stand with Crowder on this one. It's time to separate the real ones vs the business. Conservatives who don't uphold the principles of good and moral human beings in this time of crisis needs to be called out for all to see.
The real ones???Those are rich people paid by very rich people
Work for free then
Did you knuckleheads even listen to Crowder's point? He in principle wanted to point out that big business contracts do not favor the individual at all and don't allow for the freedoms necessary to produce free speech content. Since conservative media likes to talk about big tech censoring and control, they were doing the exact thing! He was calling out the hypocrites!
Crowder works for the left, change my mind
If you couldn’t tell the current loudest voices in the conservative space (Trump, DeSantis, Walsh, Shapiro, etc.) don’t uphold “good and moral” values. Not many real ones left
After it came out he verbally abused and manipulated his wife, he ain’t worth a dime. Good for him not taking the money. Such a hero for rejecting such unfair terms. $50 million is not a living wage!
the guy who can’t get his pregnant wife a car (for some reason?) and won’t let her take the only car they own because he “might” go to the gym turned down 50 million. What a role model I want my son to be just like him
@@josephmother2659 I know! What an upstanding citizen and amazing husband!
"BeLiEvE aLl WoMeN," has worked out so well for our society, lol!
Wow... That's not at all what happened. The Daily Wire called it a "slave wage", but specifically in the context of offering it to a smaller creator who would be getting much less money and had less resources to negotiate the terms.
Put the damn chains on my hands already!!!!!
@@dh7164 you mean like work? I dont tell my boss everything I think unless its a red line
@@dh7164 Over privileged disconnected rich folks mentality
@@dh7164 Imagine thinking a $50 million dollar contract is anyway comparable to slave labor, even if you were completely hamstrung in the things you can say. Just by your comment, it’s extremely easy to see your a white child under the age of 18
The $50 million was only $12.5 million a year and he was supposed to pay his entire production crew which costs over $20 million a year and the Mug Club generated $30 million a year so yeah their $12.5 million was basically a slave offer and Jeremy basically admitted that.
Yet more proof TH-cam Shorts and short form videos as a whole is just soundbites of disinformation. Sad to see Philip misrepresent this whole story this badly.
Daily Wire just exposed themselves utilizing horrible contracts. Great job, Crowder!
You have no idea how contract work
@@rubberbandman200 Enlighten me.
@kennycushman8185 I'm not your father, go do a little research about this topic before saying false statements.
@@rubberbandman200 I didn't think you were capable of having a dialogue or a mature conversation. I'm used to liberal responses. Furthermore, thank God you are not my father.
@kennycushman8185 😂 guy
I'm not about to type a TH-cam essay just because you are too lazy to do a little thing called research. Now go clean your room before your mother finds your crusty happy sock
Twitter was the worst thing to happen to humanity
Yhe it's up there
Don’t worry, it’s only a matter of time. 80% of advertisers have fled. The nazis and poop porn wasn’t what what they wanted their products advertised next to. Who knew they’d feel this way? There’s certainly no way a brilliant entrepreneur like Elon could know that 🙄 Elon’s picture should be in the dictionary under “self-own” 😂
I think the early to mid 40s is up there, maybe Malaria, mao Zedong. But sure go off
How many millions of people have been murdered because of Twitter? I wasn't aware.
all social media is. it's destroying kids brains.
This is a inaccurate way of depicting. Crowders main issue is with allowing TH-cam censorship to be involved in the clause of DW offers to their prospective contractees.
yet sadly based on the comment section many of these people will treat this disingenuous YT short as a source of factual news and refuse to hear anything that refutes it, much less vary their own sources to find the truth.
If you want TH-cam's money you have to play by TH-cam's rules. Daily Wire wants TH-cam's money. If Crowder's videos can't earn them money on TH-cam then why should they pay him as if he was?
The fact Crowder appears not to get this makes him either naive or disingenuous.
@@pintpullinggeek He absolutely gets it. He even says as much. And I personally don't blame DW for that position. I also do not blame Crowder for his position. His point was that he believes that the fight against censorship should be valued more than the revenue. DW believes differently and each position is valid. DW would be making a hell of an investment and Crowder is correct when he points out that if a creator is hit by the ambiguous YT TOS and is removed, and the DW has penalties in place if they are removed, it isn't direct censorship by DW but censorship by proxy. That is an objective fact regardless of which side of the argument you may be on.
I'm surprised that you would cover the story like this. I would recommend everyone to watch the Tim pool interview of Crowder regarding this
Yeah watch the interview of two hacks being hacks, and supporting eachothers hackery.
@@blitz8425 bad take tbh
He's not selling out, and everyone is making him out to be the bad guy.
He's Steven crowder, he's always the bad guy
@Gedco it's cuz they always make him out to be
@@scarycrazymann that and also because he is
@@begelzim that's your opinion.
@@scarycrazymann yea and it's correct
$12.5m a year to pay 60+ staff, production costs, utilities, building rental doesn't end up being $50m in Crowders pocket. He should have just had his lawyer / agent, counter offer with what they wanted. The deal was bad as Daily Wire wanted all of his previous content for the term and 100% merch sales plus run all of his social media accounts, minus his personal twitter/instagram.
It’s a first draft of a proposed contract. I agree he really should have just counter offered if he ever wanted a contract to begin with. I don’t think he ever intended to sign another contract. This is a publicity stunt to get enough attention to go independent.
@@definitelynotobama6851 he did counter for 140 as claimed by candace
Yet they declined
Even tho it was near what jeremey said he'd pay wich was 100m
In the end, DW chose business over friendship
And yet despite all that Crowder said in his latest video that he didn't decline them for the money, it was because they were still relying on big tech, for the majority of their income
Exactly. And in addition he gets penalized for getting banned on TH-cam, which basically arbitrarily decides anytime that they can ban him
@@thealphawolfofsolice2265 uhhhhh no DW didnt? You dont give your friends great deals in your business unless you're into croneyism (which is a WONDERFUL way to drive any endeavor into the ground). You can stay friends without needing to be business partners, which is what Jeremy and Ben wanted. It was Crowder who stabbed them in the back. Friends don't record private phone calls made WEEKS after negotiations ended.
So this is the conservative equivalent of celebrity beef? It’s just as pointless seeming.
honestly who gives a shit
So is celebrity beef... Actually, this more grown up.
He didn't mention the money, DW did. It was about him giving up nearly all ownership of his brand and for DW to cut his pay if big tech decided to go after him.
actually he met a couple of those requirements out of the gate he would pretty much loss half the pay by just agreeing to the contract.
@aikidodude05 yeah. I'm on the fence about this situation. It was an awful contract offer, and I see where Crowders concerns are in regard to bowing down to big tech censorship. But at the same time this could have all been dealt with behind closed doors.
@@aikidodude05 Nah, Jeremy clarified that the contract would take into consideration the current condition. I'm presuming they would have tried to get his monetization back and then be careful from then on.
@@caelanrileyfriesen3659 Not really awful. Steven couldn't provide the hard numbers as to how many users have subscribed to mug club. He asked for more than 2x as much money for a huge number of subs, but he couldn't show the statistics to prove it. 50 million was the minimum DW was willing to pay him. And by keeping his YT content slightly tame, he could have have made much more. But he wants to go independent, and that's fine. Just that secretly recording his friend and using it for sound bytes to attack DW for his new platform is just downright scummy. I just want Landau back & Steven's stunts have pushed that further now.
@jeff cherian You clearly missed stevens entire point. His point was that it wasn't about the money. He never even mentioned it in his first video, only reason DW is talking about it nonstop is to deflect the main issue. This contract would have Steven sign away his entire brand to DW who would control what he says/does. New and young creators would be forced to give that to DW. Also, on Jeremy's own words, they'd be "wage slaves" and DW would do the punishment for big tech. Why would Steven dull his content just to cater to big tech, who at any moment could ban him. DW would then in turn penalize crowder instead if helping push back against big tech. The problem is that Steven wants to remain authentic and true to the movement, while DW is more about the money and bending the knee slightly for big tech. I have experience in business and have studied it quite thoroughly, Steven's right when he says that DW should switch up their business model so that they're less reliant in big left wing companies.
Tell me you just read headlines without telling me you just read headlines....
$50 million to support his entire staff of 20+ people, production equipment, they get full revenue, and if he gets a strike or ban on TH-cam they doc his pay… terrible contract
Why does his company really make +50 million in 3 years 😂
@@bigpeendreynocap3449 his company makes more than the contract...
That 50 million was not all for crowder it was for his entire 25 employee crew over 4 years
How much money does he need . damn he need more I don’t even know the dude
@@bigpeendreynocap3449 that money would also have to cover all marketing and productions costs, along with employee salaries. He would have lost all sale from his merchandise, and the penalties for demonization were 115% ... it was an aweful contract
No, it was for crowder himself. In the contract it was stated that the daily wire would fund and manage production but since crowder wants to manage his own show, it's his own choice to spend part of the money on his own equipment and team. Stop spreading misinformation.
@@almassj8603 never be a lawyer
@@devanwilliams8014 get ur facts right. the payment was annual and u didn't even understand that. never be part of a jury, u gonna misunderstand everything,
You should probably go watch the second video with the recorded phone calls.
He won't. DeFranco is scum and only cares about his own preferred narrative.
Post all the facts. That money was the entire budget. Not money in his pocket. The entire production. Employee salaries. Everything was to come out of that.
I just had some guy explain to me how Ben is one of the most alpha guys he’s ever seen. Just wait till he sees peewee Herman
We really do live in a cursed timeline where someone can think Mr. D.A.P. Is alpha 💀
Man doesn't even know what a wet p word is. How is that alpha lmao
He's the pseudo-intellectual to rule all pseudo-intellectuals, impressing the less informed with big words, while every intelligent person just alternates between face-palming and rolling their eyes at the complete mess that he tries to pass off as "logic" or "facts".
Did you show him the Ben Shapiro WAP video, and ask him if he still stands by that statement
Dude doesn't even know pussies get wet during sex and he is supposed to be alpha?!
50 mil was for the production of his show, that means set, staff, personalities, co-hosts, everything DW would just be providing advertising. They also tried poaching one of Steven's employees.
$50 million dollars for four years and he's saying that's a slave contract? That's a little over $10 million dollars a year, $5,000 an hour, 200,000 a week. If that is slave wages then he had better not say another word about $15 minimum wage.
That is good math for someone who get's their news from a YT short and feel confident they are fully informed and should comment. $50 million for him. His cast. His crew and staff. Their full benefits. Studio costs. Equipment costs. Attorney fees. All production of his regular show. FOR 4 YEARS! And he isn't the one who used the term "wage slaves".
@Codex Since you commented basically the same thing on multiple threads, I will just copy/paste my response as well... @Codex When exactly did I tell you that? Or anything for that matter? I would be interested to know how many employees he has and his daily production costs if you don't mind sharing. You have obviously already done the math so I assume you have all the necessary information? That said...Yes I am sure that even after all the substantial expenses I listed above that you seemingly decided to ignore, I am sure his net income will still be a pretty hefty sum. A sum that is determined by the market and demand for his content. It is no different than any other comedian, actor, athlete, reality tv star, game show host, etc. Agree with him or not, like him or not, there is a market for his product and Daily Wire would not have offered him that amount nor would he have rejected the offer.
@@BrettShadow You seem triggered. Can I get you a warm glass of milk?
@@CrazyLife2112 This is a YT comment section. I am not and will never be worked up over a YT comment section. However.... I doand always have loved milk, and the idea that you would serve it to me warm?! I don't hate those with different opinions.... but that sir is out of line
Lol don't believe everything you see on the internet, this dude in the youtube short has LITERALLY no idea what he is talking about and is misrepresenting the entire ordeal.
I remember when Franco wasn't a shill and sellout.
In what way
when someone agrees with me=fine
when someone disagrees with me=shill and sellout
He kinda always leaned that way but yeah he has completely fallen in these days, justa parrot like many others
Must have been many years ago...
@@diychad7268 do u mean a parrot in this situation? I didn't hear anything wrong with what he said. Crowder is a huge grifter and always has been.
50 mil was to cover everything from staff to sets and everything else
After being penalized into oblivion. You are aware that Crowder is banned from monetization from all platforms. Which means he gets 0 dollars. Do the simple math you non intellectual thinker.
If you thought people were stupid… I’ll have you know that there is actually people out there who actually watch Philip DeFranco
Homie subscribed to the Rudy Guilliani TH-cam channel MUST know what good content is…
Yeah after the AJ ban we started to see the true colors on lots of content creators. They'd huff and puff about people being silenced and when they had the chance to rally behind a big name and actually affect some change, they took the opportunity to gloat about it instead. Now the bans can hit anyone at anytime, and many of the channels who celebrated AJ being removed were later removed in the same fashion, although the irony was lost on them.
“we’re fighting a culture war ! … but if the mob comes for you then we’re cutting your pay , so watch your mouth when you speak” - Daily Wire
The ironic thing is, they ARE the mob. The mobs that’s angry at black elves or black mermaids, or female M&Ms wearing shoes or saying Happy Holidays, or gay people existing. The right is the mob.
‘Using your likeness in perpetuity…’ nah. I’m good.
That's so DW can keep using the content created under their banner and advertise that content using his likeness.
Who'd be watching old crowder videos? What are they really worth?
that is in basically every contract man, even working under contract as a systems admin, they want to be able to use your likeness in PR shit if they want to.
Lol, let them fight.
I love how this covers the '50 million' which still requires him to cover the costs of production of the show, and states that he can be penalized *more* than he was getting 'paid' if he saw a 'drop in quality'. The issue there being that DW had the SOLE authority to determine a 'decrease in quality' - Something they would actively make money by declaring thus creating a financial incentive to penalize him with no mechanism for defense.
It's almost as if this is framed unidirectionally without regard to the nuance of the situation.
They were paying him 50 million and whatever he doesn't spend on production he keeps. He doesn't have to worry about finding sponsors or increasing a subscription service specifically to him. He gets paid a flat amount. The reduction in quality clause protects them from him using the 50 million to line his pockets and run a minimum production show. Crowder counteroffered 120 million and was rejected and is salty that he has to find his own sponsors and rebuild his mug club from the ground up so he's lying to everyone to make himself seem moral. Mark Dice did a great video on the whole situation. Crowder is a dirty grifter. Daily Wire is also a bunch of grifters but not in this situation.
Folks can say what they wish about the dude however, I guarantee he can fill a room with an audience faster than 99.9% of his counterparts in the same genre of information. Larger live followings than even well established media on major events.
Maybe not anymore.. people tend to shy away from crybabies
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
They told him he wouldn’t be paid for the days he didn’t produce content bc he wouldn’t be generating them revenue. Do u expect your boss to pay u if don’t go to work?
Also that the content he produced while being under contract with the daily wire would be their property since they were already paying him an inflated cost and he’d be a contracted employee of the Daily Wire. There’s no way crowder is pulling in 50 mil a year with just his show/merch
Nah just some failed actor/comedian turning to deepthroating conservative boots to make obscene amounts of money (While advocating for shit that gets people killed) throwing a baby tantrum that he's getting paid 50 million instead of 100 million as if he won't be able to afford rent with 50 mill stretched within 4 or even 50 or 100 years really.
And that message is "I want more MONEY"
When it comes to a legal contract every word matters and should not be taken lightly.
"The worst they can say is no"
The no:
When Defranco speaks positively about it, you gotta know something is up or left out
He doesn't even take a side on the issue other than "50 million is a lot of money" which it definetly is.
None of these people are good people. They think minimum wage should stay at 7 bucks an hour yet think they deserve 50 million dollars for a couple years of 4 hour work weeks
Well considering crowder never said "slave contract" you know Phil is lying.
@Mn M he took a side.. it's very obvious.. he took the side of DW
@@randybobandy9828 No he doesn't. He just states the facts of the situation.
After seeing what happened to Candace no wonder why Steven said it’s a slave contract. You have to have a certain stance and not allowed to have a stance on certain things which Steven was implying in multiple videos
$50m to pay all his employees and fund 100% of the production of his show.
That’s not enough money given how Steven is the undisputed leader in followers in the conservative space.
That's 12.5 million a year with studio space provided and a team of social media. Depending on the source his anual buisness revenue is between 1.2 million and 7.8 million. With most sources claming between 4.7 and 5.2 million. So you want to say 12.5 million is not enough when his current budget is less than half from the average source? Steven crowder rejected the contract because he didn't like the fact he would have to give up control of his social media to people who will defiantly stay within guidelines instead of the stuff he posts now. For example every youtuber knows there are key words that will get you banned from TH-cam. There are youtubers who make up co words like hokie pokie for the needle or the koof instead of what the real name is. Crowder dosent care he knew this and still insisted on calling it the v@× or the name of the illness. Then he got mad at youtube because he intentionally sabotaged himself when he knew the rules. Or example his socialism t-shirt youtube gave him a warning not to post that shirt. What does he do... he intentionally links it to his youtube page and wore it in every video he could. If the daily wire was in control of his page they would definitely censor that kind of stuff and keep his social media clean of it but still have it behind a pay wall. He didn't like that and thought well I can do what I want and if the daily wire looses money because of it then that is there problem not mine.
Let me ask you if you pay for a service such as a contractor and that contractor does the job but intentionally damages other things that were not in the contract should you be held liable to pay out of pocket to fix the damages the contractor you hired did?
You are nuts. Even if he had 20 staff members making 100k a year, plus other expenses he would easily walk away with over 20 million. That's great money. He's being greedy
@@rubberbandman200 he has 300k people ready to pay monthly for mug club
He can make millions a month off just that alone.
@ParkerOviedo that's not the point of this conversation dummy. We are talking about how 50 mil is a shit ton of money and more than enough to pay for everything plus millions in the bank
I'm sure Steven can wipe is tearful eyes with $100's
For 50 million dollars, Daily Wire could tattoo “Property of Jeremy Boering” on my left Ass cheek
He was getting 50mil to BE property of Jeremy Boering and _would get a huge pay cut any time sponsors got pissy, he didn't read enough ads, or missed a video. He was never going to end up with 50mil in his pocket at years end.
Look past the 50mil, the contract stipulations were ass and it's weird that everyone is defending Daily Wire (yes, you effectively are)
He could tattoo it on my face cheek
Pathetic. The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. It was never about the money for Crowder. He is real.
I can't help but be reminded of that one quote from the Force Unleashed video game:
"The Sith always turn against one another."
50mill for what I think was 4 years for him and his whole company. Plus he doesn’t have say in what he can say, doesn’t get profit from his merch, can’t do outside company brand promotions, doesn’t get any profit from his videos even after the contract is over, is fined when he’s not able to work and if you know Steven he’s been out quite a bit lately, fines if you’re penalized by big tech and if you know Dave that’ll happen quite a bit. So 50 mill which is basically a loan he has to pay back.
I thought he had received a term sheet and not a contract.
The DW would like you to believe an initial offering isn’t a binding agreement. Go ahead and sign an initial offering and let me know if you think it’s binding or not.
@@umiluv Who in there right mind would sign an initial offer? It was a conversation starter to let Crowder know what kind of things the contract would cover, an outline of what the DW wanted, that would then go into negotiations to figure out what Crowder wants, but that never happened.
Why do people like you act like he is a child they were trying to take advantage of? Any one with common sense would use a lawyer at his level just like all the other DW members did to negotiate. No one on daily wire is a child star on the come up.Brainless I swear.
@@umiluv you can sign a napkin and it would be biding... thats why in first sheet both sides ynderstand no one is going to sign it
@@DigitalVoidEntertainment BURP
Sits back and grabs popcorn
12 million a year would barely cover his companies expenditures he has at least 3 which the daily wire knows. The daily wire is just mad that they got called out publicly.
And Crowder is just mad that there would be consequences for his actions. If he is paid to make content, and he gets banned, stopping him from making content, why would you expect him to keep getting the same amount of income from that? Look, the contract was bad, no denying that, but Crowders reasons for it being bad simply seem to be "I wouldn't be able to do my racist content anymore"
Consequences for his actions? You mean like defending free speech? Like expecting conservative companies to be conservative? Oh man... the humanity!
12.5m a year with 60+ employees on Louder With Crowder and production costs. Daily Wire wanted all merch revenue and all his previous content for the term. And 5 ad reads per episode. It was definitely a lowball offer.
@@zraebiel1673 hahaha defending free speech, you guys are priceless. Also last time I checked the dude isn't in jail or homeless, in matter of fact it's the "Big tech" that made crowder rich. He wasn't getting all this engagement on the radio or newspaper or town hall.
You have the right to say whatever you want to say but if people don't like it or don't want to spend their money with you or your business. Stop playing victim and screaming your defending freedom of speech. You're not. You just don't want to deal with the consequences of your actions like a child.
It's true that DW is pretty much controlled opposition
Crowder doesn't want smaller conservatives to be punished, that's the issue here. He wants to know that smaller creators who join will not be punished harshly when they are banned or censored because of their small size media wise.
DW doesn’t want to lose reach and their money ether. Also the irony of hearing how Crowder doesn’t want small creators to suffer... meanwhile DW has brought several small creators like Cooper and Matt Walsh who were relatively unknown before DW to the mainstream...
Yet Crowder has yet to even have ONE...
Falling for the grift In real time
He wouldn't be bitc×××ng about the 'slave contract' if he were to get the 120 mil that he asked for.
120 mil is fucking insane 😂
He doesn’t want the money, he didn’t even try and negotiate it. Doesn’t matter if it was $250 mil
@@JoeWild30 oh is that so? Is that why he is throwing his friends under the bus for nothing so that he can grow his fan base and go solo? Its all about money with Steven. He got insulted that DW would not agree to his 120 million.
The $50M was not his wage dummie. It was for everything - wages, sets, business expenses, etc. So, yes, Crowder was right, the contract was garbage.
Lmao snowflake
Yes, 1.5 hours of work per day for 4 days a week at $50 million over 4 years (possibly more had he tried to negotiate) is definitely equal to what happened during slavery.....
Crowder is smart and believes in core values that are slowly getting thrown away by mainstream media
Crowder on $50,000,000 "predatory" contracts: core values
Amazon workers on making barely enough to stay alive while working long hours in bad conditions: lazy pieces of crap who want everything handed to them
🤡🤡 yeah right...
And the daily wire doesn’t believe in those same values??? Ridiculous.
@@K_End conservatives live in your head rent free 😂 you’ve commented on so many of these
@@drakec9480 They dont
It wasn't a contract, it was a term sheet
This talking point is so dumb. If Crowder signed the initial offering he would have been bound by those TERMS.
@@umiluvA term sheet is just a rough draft opening offer. It's only purpose is just to get a feel for what can be taken out, what's non-negotiable, and what demands can be slightly altered before signing a contract.
Nobody with Crowder's level of success would ever just immediately agree on a term sheet.
You missed a HUGE part of this situation that made it a "slave contract".
That contract was bullshit and had some bullshit stipulations to it
he wouldn't get 50 million. he would get a 50 million budget for his show and employees and overhead.
Ah yes, $50M, just the slaves of old used to be paid.
Tbh his company is worth more than that I love both shows and will continue too
@@derekshear5444 but it's a contract for $50mil and they would continue to pay him. Also, his company itself isn't worth $50mil. Without him it's worthless, that's like saying Ben Shapiro is worth $50mil because he owns the DW but in reality it's because he's amassed a massive fortune thanks to having rich parents just like Steven Crowder. They're both fools who are doing this little charade because they've seen liberals do it and go viral, all it'll do is drive up their sales individually. DW will get more subscribers, as will Steven Crowder. They're working together. Ben and Steve are literally BFFs.
@codex5080they offered crowder a 50 million contract for 4yrs. But because of his nasty ego he asked for 30 million yearly which is unfair
@codex5080entertainment
But that’s really it
Lol don't believe everything you see on the internet, this dude in the youtube short has LITERALLY no idea what he is talking about and is misrepresenting the entire ordeal.
You can rest assured knowing who the real enemy is, by observing who is going out of their way to defend the daily wire.
This will ring true no matter which side you’re on.
Wow. Couldn't misrepresent the situation any worse. Terrible.
A conservative proforming auto-flagellation:
SeE iM the ViCtIm
Nothing says I’m humble like turning down to $50 million contract
I'm with Crowder on this one. Ben and his crew are becoming what they swore to destroy. A sad sight to see.
🧑🦯🧑🦯🧑🦯🧑🦯🧑🦯🧑🦯
Dude their revenue is dependent on him getting views....he gets banned and can't produce revenue but should still have 0 risk and have them keep paying him. Wtf deal is that
@@MRGior-wo6dk the reality is that TH-cam does control a lot of the ability of their business to make money, that's just reality. Why should the daily wire inherit 100% of that risk that applies to both of them? No matter how the deal was written, it would always be a priority to spread that risk to both parties. If he gets banned on TH-cam for week 2 of the 5 year deal, he should still get the same amount of money despite not generating any benefit for daily wire? Get real lol.
ben may have sworn something, but he always had his fingers crossed behind his backs
It's a very Jewish contract. Probably written by Ben shapiro himself. Usery at its finest
1360 years in my local currency is how long it would take to get 50 million dollars in my local currency. And he calls 50 million a slave contract.... the entitlement is strong with this one.
*insert Godzilla meme* "Let them fight."
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Crowder ever said anything about being offered a “slave contract”. Jeremy was the one who said new content creators said they need to be “wage slaves” for a little bit until they grow their platform.
Disappointing Phil
$50 million for him. His cast. His crew and staff. Their full benefits. Studio costs. Equipment costs. Attorney fees. All production of his regular show. FOR 4 YEARS! And he isn't the one who used the term "wage slaves".
@codex5080 Except for the fact that everything he posted is absolutely true, and has consistently been proven to be true for the past year...
Wasn't a contract. It was a term sheet. A list of issues with starting points to negotiate. They hadn't asked him to sign anything because they had not negotiated anything to sign. And 5O million was a starting offer to get their foot in the door, they knew it would go up, but they couldn't go as high as SC wanted so negotiations ended, the website BIG CON was created, and a week before the video was posted SC recorded a phone call with his friend Jeremy Boring to slice and dice for a second video. By the time SC started the drama- he had the term sheet three months, the website for one month and had already set up for the second video he was going to do. It was all a very premeditated attack over a "contract" that wasn't.
Sounds like you have the facts, well said!
Crowder is doing something smart here. This will just make them both more popular and noticed
"He took much of the contract out of context." Yeah he does that a lot.
Watching conservative grifters fight and try to destroy each other’s reputations is my favorite type of content
We found the commie ^^^^^
@@jonsingleton203 I bet you couldn’t give an accurate definition of communism even with the entirety of the internet at your disposal. Maybe stick to simpler things like eating glue or yelling about not being able to jerk off to the green M&M anymore.
$50M for a production team of 25-35 personnel, that's all salary & production costs for 35 people.
9,500,000 production per year.
$12.5M - $9.5M = 3M for salary of 35 employees + other expenses.
Phil really needing that money
50 million was for his entire production, staff wages, insurance, studio costs, filming costs, security costs...etc they werent just giving him 50 mill
Ok. If you are going to be standing for the truth, money is the least important thing for this. This makes Crowder look greedy about wanting something when he has something by talking about issues.
He never called it a slave contract, either. Philip "De Democrat" DeFranco.
I dont care if im late, but who cares whether or not somebody is a democrat or republican, both sides already lost just by picking a side. Its quite pathetic honestly. And yes, I hated 99% of the choices for the most recent elections, Trump is just useless, spouts nonsense, and is doing one massive act, Biden is just stupid and cant even get a coherent sentence together, not to mention I disagree with a decent chunk of democratic views and Hillary wanted to remove self defence for victims and was hiding suspicious emails. Anybody who sides with any of these idiots is an idiot themselves, even Ben Shapiro which gets all pissy over the facts and opinions of others. Just look at him complaining on twitter every couple of minutes 🤣. Quite ironic seeing how he loves his facts huh. Hell, he even says to not take the covid vaccine and yet he took it. Seriously, stop picking sides and just be a bystander/watcher.
It's not a contract!! Everyone is still thinking it's a contract.... no no sir it sure isnt
He called it a “slave contract” because he was forced to give up ownership of all his sites and services, and would be charged up to 1 million dollars for missing a single days work.
I dont like this guy but just read the contract its fucking insane
One million dollars?No.Contract-12.5 million dollars a year, 179 shows, about 63,000 dollars a day's show. If he misses a show for a day, he wouldn't be paid for the days work and additional penalties too. The actual penalty fee was 100,000 dollars a day. Watch again.
And since DW pays him, they handle all his revenue-generating accounts (YT, Spotify & Apple podcasts) Once the contract period is over, they hand everything back to him. His personal accounts would be untouched.
@@freemanotakponmwen3611 $1M is technically accurate but misleading because there was a $1M fine for missing any significant scheduled political events that were on an annualized schedule. Midterm races and conferences like CPAC could have fallen under these events. The ~$62k per would have been the pro-rata if approved, and bear in mind that Crowder would have been required to make an annual production the likes of Walsh's What is a Woman and Owens's Biggest Lie which would have taken considerable vacation time since show days would incur a penalty.
Yes, this could have been negotiated further, but considering what Crowder's actual production worth is (and it's well north of $50M over 4 years w/ stipulated penalties considering his paying audience size) DW started with not only a weak offer, but one that was far from amicable, and left Crowder just about everything to lose.
@@jeffcherian3065 they wouldnt hand everything back, cant remember what but they would keep some of the things in perpetuity
It wasn't even a contract though. It's a "term sheet" that's meant to be negotiated. It's a starting bid, just like all companies do when they want to make a deal.
Oh, they at the stage where they start eating their own 😂😂😂
Crowder NEVER said anything about "slave" wages. The $50 Million contract is for Crowder's company over 4 years including at least 25 of Crowder's employees. The debate is about the "terms" NOT the $50 million.
it's hard to read the last tweet screenshot bec the caption is covering parts of it
It also included a option to buy 2 more years at the same 12.5m... so technically 65 million for 6 years
That being said, this was a big misunderstanding. They sent out a basic run of the mill term sheet expecting some back and forth, so they didn't bother personalizing it to Steven since that's usually done in the negotiations phase.
This world is so twisted and evil that they can't see when a man is wanting to have a moral guidance instead of just selling out your beliefs. Some of us value morals over cash.
so in other words scamming others is fine just dont scam them
this is what happens when you refuse to sit on an ocean parters casting couch
Wish people would stop misrepresenting the $50 mil as all for crowder, it’s for him and all his employees as he bears the weight of production.
The worst part is that Ben Shapiro was one of the people misrepresenting it the most. I must have missed all the "facts and logic" in his response video. I'm with Crowder 100% on this one.