"I want someone who will cook, clean, take care of the house, raise the kids" "Okay, yeah thats me, thats what I'm looking for" "Oh so you want to contribute nothing to the relationship, gold digger?" "No, I'm literally offering traditional wife skills to the relationship, the exact things you wanted from a partner" "You're a gold digging harlot! I knew it was too good to be true!!!" Tell me this guy isn't a fresh and fit fan, please. Theres no way he consumes any other redpill content and misses the mark that hard.
Guy found a woman who wants to be a stay at home trad-wife, and managed to call her a gold digger for agreeing with him? These dudes have never had a coherent thought in their lives.
@@leojoking1615you're probably being sarcastic but Bro wants a yandere gf 💀 Calm down this aint anime. Someone crazy about you will also be the end of you. Look at someone else and your body is in a river
There are actually plenty of women out there who would love to be a trad wife so i used to never understand why redpillers are upset all the time. But now i know why. They don't even want an actual trad wife. They want someone who acts like a trad wife while also contributing money to their home. 🤦🏻♀️
See this is why I hate the term red pilling, because it's supposed to basically mean someone is swapping to being either Republican or conservative when it comes to political mindset, it's not supposed to mean that you're becoming a cringe POS, but unfortunately with situations such as this, with the alpha male podcasts causing Alpha levels of brain rot Within These guys, shit like this is why the term is being poisoned
So, let me get this straight. This guy threw a whole fit when she offered to pay for half of dinner. Then turns around and calls her a gold digger and "f**k you" for agreeing with him and also wanting a traditional relationship? He's delulu as hell. I'm so happy no one is ever gonna date this guy now 😂
She paid for the whole thing. The “humiliation” was actually her making her own order when he tried to order for her without knowing what she even wanted 😂
He crumbled at being asked to be responsible - a trad wife can only be (happily) sustainable in a trad household these days, where the man will need to provide the income to support the family, not just himself. I can only imagine that he probably has nothing going for him and knows that he could never support the household like that. Being called out and asked to be a man was just too much for this child.
Those podcasters aren't actual alpha males. We don't realize it ourselves, but other people notice that when an alpha male walks into a room, there's an air of tacit reverence among the onlookers. That's one of the trademark qualities of being an alpha male: the ability to walk into any room, social setting, or situation and be in complete control of things such that everybody else defers to you and even joins your side for protection.
you'll notice how the things he requested became other things as soon as he was frustrated with her. takes care of herself > plays dress-up traditional woman > gold digger this is inherent to the tradwife issue. being a loving supporter to your partner, prioritizing your lifestyle and your children - these aren't anti-feminist. but when you _identify_ yourself with "traditional womanhood," you're introducing yourself to men like this, who will recharacterize the relationship in order to shame and punish you when they're angry. plenty of people who end up financially dependent on abusers can attest to this behavior - their partner will accuse them of being a freeloader for not being able to contribute financially. they will insult and downplay the work their partner puts into the relationship by saying it's natural behavior, part and parcel with maintaining the home, or the least they can do when they don't contribute financially. glad this guy demonstrated exactly who he was from the jump.
There's nothing wrong with a traditional setup, but you are right that some people jump straight into it without knowing their partner, and it's harder to get free if you don't have a career to fall back on. I think this is why traditional relationships usually had extended courting periods, and having to pass the scrutiny of other friends and family. Those who care about us tend to be more discerning of character because they aren't blinded by hormones.
You're very much so right on the money. I've seen that shit firsthand a hundred times. And yeah being anti-feminist would be saying women have to be whatever you want them to be. If you want to be a home maker and not work and your partner agrees to that then you can in fact still be a whole feminist so long as you think other women shouldn't be forced to adhere to that traditional role. It doesn't meant you have to be ANTI-homemaker to be feminist it just means you understand and respect that women and people in general should be free to fill whatever traditional or non-traditional role they like without being forced into a box. Be whatever you want live however you want so long as you're not hurting anyone or forcing a set standard on others outside of basic decency.
It's so fucking funny that he says that "emotionally stable, takes care of herself, good with kids" are inherently female traits, like he's implying that emotional stability and taking care of yourself are unreasonable expectations for a man lmao
In his defense… he’s living proof that it’s something a lot of men struggle with. And I’m saying that _as a man_, who is both emotionally unstable and bad at taking care of himself. It would definitely help if things like therapy, self awareness, and “having emotions on the outside”, weren’t seen as emasculating by some people.
@@MigattenoBlakaeright!!! These “alphas” spread rhetoric about men that says showing feelings brings about femininity and make them “weak.” They tell other men to take out their frustrations on women and it just makes the division between women and men worse. Not only this, but they NEVER advise their viewers to get therapy. Instead, they gotta invest in bitcoin or pay thousands of dollars to be in a discord server… how does that help men??? I’m so tired of bs..
To be fair the “traditional lifestyle” is dead. Bc you can’t simply support two people let alone a family, afford two cars, and a family home off one salary unless it’s $250,000+. (Which is like 1% of jobs). It’s not the 60’s anymore. What IS realistic is a hybrid lifestyle. Both work and BOTH help out with cleaning and parenting, maybe live in an apartment.
The really messed up part is, there's plenty of men (myself included) who would love that arrangement, but you can't even do that with a middle-class income in most parts of the developed world. Isn't it so nice that our grandparents and their parents sold our future for a cushy retirement?
Here's the thing, don't ask for a traditional wife if you're not going to be a traditional husband. The same applies on the other end of the spectrum here don't ask for a traditional husband if you're not going to be a traditional wife. The problem in this scenario though was the fact that the dude just wanted to be careful like he was still a child, and yet still do things that adults do, but yet didn't want to actually be the other half of the role that comes with being a traditional family. I'm sure y'all don't need a lengthy description like I've known for doing unfortunately, so I won't bore you guys with a paragraph, lol. Overall though, people sometimes are just wanting Maids that help with bills, and they should be avoided at all costs. They're not worth while, they're narcissistic and self-centered, and they're not going to put themselves out at all for the sake of the family, only for themselves.
i'm willing to bet he thinks PLENTY of women are not emotionally stable. i think this because he felt the need to point out that "GOOD females" are naturally emotionally stable.
I love how emotional stability is an inherently female trait to these kinds of people, but at the same time, women are these crazy hysterical creatures that can’t control their emotions. Which one is it, then?
Isn't that strange....because not so many moons ago he would have signed his wife up for a lobotomy... over her "emotions" or anything else he decided.
I think it was a Freudian slip letting her know he's emotionally unstable. Not the only thing Freud studied that could be applied to this guy, he's looking for a mother not a partner.
They don't want a traditional wife, they want some weird trad wife/progressive career woman hybrid type wife. Which is impossible. You can only have one, unless you want the poor woman to have a mental breakdown.
She needs to have a good paying job that can pay for his hobbies but also be willing to quit her job at the drop of a hat to take care of the kids and clean the house but also be willing to resume her job again at a moment's notice while also taking care of the kids by remote working and part timing but also quit again when he needs an outlet for his libido to be his personal on-call sex doll but also work again because he needs money but also quit when
The weirdest thing is that when they somehow find that one in a million woman who'll pay for them and even do house chores, they still manage to mess up, because of their ego 😂. I've known many women who ended up being cheated on, because apparently the husbands can't take that their wifes are earning more money, cause it makes em feel self-conscious about not being the bread winners
@@CassCat69 I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait. If it's not, he's definitely a manchild, she's definitely a gold digger, and the comments here make me lose faith in humanity.
A strange but related side note. I use to work in drug rehabilitation and when people (usually women) who are expected to take care of the kids, work, handle the home and finances, they turn to substance abuse. It is TERRIFYING the statistics on parents (again, usually mothers) that are abusing methamphetamines.
yea not surprising, back in the day so many women would have mental breakdowns from that shit and a lot of them were prescribed drugs or institutionalized for it
i think people like this guy don’t see housework and childcare as work, but they absolutely are. Thats part of the deal of one partner staying at home.
yes, i saw a video is a lady whose husband called useless because she doesnt do anything and she decided not to clean the house for 2 days and it was a whole mess
not only is it work, it's important work!! Like jesus christ, how do people still not realize that taking care of children is like... literally one of the THE most important jobs there is?! Having a parent (or two, if you're really lucky) that cares about you and puts serious & consistent effort into your development gives you the biggest possible advantage in life imaginable. I really don't think I can overstate how important it is, and yet so many act like it's easy or not important :/
I'm still in shock with how lovely and patient this woman was towards this guy even after he called her all possible names. She deserves way better than this.
Woman who are married and who experience what he describes, being a trad wife and a working woman end up getting divorced because they are expected to do everything. Those woman describe their situation as being single married woman. It is nice though that she knows this upfront about this guy, she saved herself a lot of headache.
It also sets you up for financial abuse. And really any kind of abuse. Because it's a lot harder to leave if you don't have an income. Especially if you haven't worked in say 10 years... Now you have a 10 year gap on your resume. How will you ever support yourself, or kids if you have them? Oh but of course, if you ask for alimony or child support people think you're evil and "stealing" his money. Even though he never would have gotten so far in his career if you weren't supporting him, and you intentionally quit your job just so you could support him. But apparently his money is his and you were just working unpaid for all that time..
I just read a comment that said it wasn't bc she paid, apparently its because he tried to order her food for her and she turned it down bc of allergies, which is an even more pathetic reason to get "humiliated" 😂
@@cptteacosy6158 Who the fuck orders for someone else on their first date if they don't even know them, what they like or can't/won't eat lmao. The first date is literally there to get to know eachother. Making decisions for a stranger you don't know (yet) sounds like a huge red flag.
@@cptteacosy6158 bro is embarrassing. Doesn’t complain about his bill being paid but calls her a gold digger, and mad he can’t order her food like she’s a kid
"He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that" Well he can want any crazy non-existent thing he can dream up but it's not happening because it's not possible. I think you'd need three wives for this. Two of them are high income earners who for some reason don't mind paying everyone else's bills. One of them is a superhuman homemaker tradwife. Even then, you can't have children with all of them because the tradwife isn't going to be able to raise that many children (most of whom aren't hers) while also cooking cleaning for four adults and three sets of children. God the more I think about this the more I see how totally unsustainable it is to have just one person be a totally useless lump.
I knew a guy like this. Had a laundry list of requirements (not just preferences) he was looking for in a partner. When I asked him what he had to offer in return, his answer was… “loyalty”. Just loyalty. He didn’t have a high paying job, nor did he even have his own place, but the cherry on the top was him insisting that he’d want his future wife to sign a prenup so she couldn’t just decide one day she’d prefer alimony over her marriage. Because apparently women just spontaneously do that. According to the bitter divorced men he’d heard of. Nooo, these men hadn’t done anything to push their ex-wives away, they were saints. Unthinkable that might be the case. They were just victims of these women who got bored of marriage and cashed in one day. One requirement on his laundry list was that his partner could never have been engaged before, let alone actually married ‘cause “they’d made their decision”. Tough luck if their partner turned out not to be who they thought… like being abusive. It just demonstrated a lack of loyalty for leaving a relationship like that, of course 🚩🚩🚩
There is nothing wrong with wanting a traditional relationship. But if you want a tradwife, you need to be a tradhusband. And as a tradhusband your role is to be the provider of the family, which quite literally means you are paying for the entire family, including your wife
@@zammmerjammeryep lol that’s exactly how my parents were. Dad makes the money, mom pays bills, grocery shops, and does taxes. That shit got old and stale though because that’s not economically feasible for the working class anymore.
@@adambednarek2007 I mean, the economy was fucking great. I'd love to have the 50's economy along with the modern-day embrace of human diversity. But yeah, most people who wax poetic about that time are waxing poetic about the shitty social values of the time, too.
This one was just painful. He literally had it in the bag and still had to go full entitled incel and absolutely fumble it lol The thing about these guys is they basically want a mom who will take care of them and their home but they refuse to return the favor. It’s like if you want this “trad wife” who’s gonna do all that you better be bringing A LOT to the table for them too.
@@musclegeek1991Not really. Despite the trad wife being kind of outdated, healthy relationships can still be maintained from it and many people do. I don’t see the red flag in the beginning but as Charlie said, to have a trad wife, he’d need to be a trad husband because the relationship just wouldn’t work. He basically wanted a parent instead of a wife would provide everything for him which was the wrong part but trad families are pretty common and healthy
@@gigamad1729 he had already shown her on the first date that he wasn’t capable of supporting the trad wife he wanted, because she had to pay for dinner. She was mocking him, 100%
The woman handled it absolutely like a boss IMHO. I don't agree with the concept of "tradwife", in today's world, with the costs of living and all it's almost and impossible thing, but if that's her goal, she's absolutely nailed it with her responses and all without losing her sh*t....
This is the part of the whole "trad-wife" thing I don't get. If you want a stay-at-home wife/girlfriend, you HAVE to be providing for that lifestyle. That means working your ass off. And if you're willing to do that, because that's what you want, then more power to you. But the expectation that your partner will never want anything is absolutely insane. Get a sexbot if that's what you're looking for.
The 'trad-wife' community and the 'red-pill' community are two completely different groups. I find it funny how much the red-pill talks highly about trad-wives while all of the trad-wives would hate their guts for promoting male sexual promiscuity while at the same time insulting and degrading women for even daring to have premarital sex with any man other than himself. The man from that text conversation clearly watches so much red-pill content that it rotted his mind to mush.
Plus what i dont get, in this economy most of the time it requires both people to have a job to survive especially when you have kids but when both you and your wife work an 8 hour shift you can't expect her to do all the chores take care of the kids etc. thats why the whole Trad wife thing is retarded and all people over the age of 14 should realize that
A lot of newer relationships share the responsibility of laundry, cleaning the house, taking care of the children and working. He wants all of that but also not to share any of the house work. What a piece of garbage.
its so odd that he literally found a woman that was ok with pumping out babies and doing chores her whole life and somehow managed to still get mad at her for asking for the bare minimum of being financially stable
That's why I stop engaging in a conversation with a guy whenever he mention " I want a traditional wife", it's not wrong to want one but there's always a price for what you want and usually those guys aren't willing to pay for that.
One of the reasons traditional housewives just aren’t as common anymore is because the cost of living is so expensive that both parties now have to work. So if you’re asking for a traditional housewife it’s implied that you’re well off financially. If you can’t even pay the bill to take her on a date, you’re in no position to ask her to be a traditional housewife.
also too women know now that its p scary to be fully financially dependent on a man who can dump u at any time (before u say alimony, its a lot less common than youd think)
This is very true, you need a reasonably good job if you want to fully commit to that lifestyle. It's so sad that the economy is ruining these kinds of relationships
@@cat_clan_leader another major reason is that women know it’s very risky to rely on a man financially so even without the economy it would be decreasing
@@Kittenlover113355 then that's the man's fault for pushing for a relationship he can't support. If you can't support that kind of relationship, then pick another one. It's really only fitting for guys who know the system and are equipped for a moderately well paying job, but then then not all of them want a trad relationship anyways, so it becomes even more rare
It's doable on single income if he makes over the high $80k range. Also, not live in any major city or suburb. But the relationship has to be based off of being best friends, partner, consultant, etc.. You have to be really happy and enjoy your life together to make that life work in digital age.. NOTHING is easy to hide anymore, that trust better be cranked all the way to 100%...
That guy wants a slave not a wife. He wants her to not only do all the house chores, care for the kids, and have to go out and work he wants her doing 3 times the physical labor he does. Disgusting
Nothing wrong with wanting a traditional wife if you are willing to be a traditional husband. This dude has double standards out the wazoo, that girl sounds super chill and cool and I'm sorry she had to deal with that. Hope she moves on to better things and I hope he reevaluates himself.
these are my favorite...the convos that start out with so much potential, then just completely take a nose dive out of the blue because the most miniscule reason ever
I hate the whole ”trad“ mentality ngl. Feels like the trad men want robots with no ambition or personality and the trad women are fighting against their own interest and freedom.
Same. I really dislike being near children for any length of time. Just don't know how to handle them. Its nothing against children, I just don’t know how to take care of them, and feel no urge to learn beyond basics. If the kid can't tell me what it needs, it shouldn't be left in my care. No "mothering instinct" has ever existed in me.
It's insane to me that a lot of men want an equal earning wife who ADDITIONALLY takes care of the kids, and him, and looks perfect while doing it. Like, imagine if the roles were reversed. That's not fair.
She sounds selfish ash, make HER house a home, while working on HERSELF, while he takes care of HER. That ain't traditional. That's modern simping that ain't how your great great great grandmother was tf. This shii is acceptable?I always wondered why older men like my uncle's would steer us away from marriage. I'm older now and it makes sense. To what man does this shii sound good?? What does the guy get cause nothing in her response equated to anything other than herself.
I saw this post on Reddit. The whole “humiliation” situation was because he’d tried to order for her…and she refused what he’d tried to order because she was allergic to it. I assumed it was because of money at first, but she’d explained it was over his order for her. She was the one to foot the bill though.
I hate how today it's completely normal for a man to say he wants a trad wife, but if a woman says she wants a traditional man she's automatically a gold digger. It works both ways, my lovelies.
I’m also positive that they call women who want traditional men gold diggers because they’re not traditional themselves most of the time, I’m talking about the women
or, perhaps, it should work neither way? I mean obviously everyone should pursue the romantic partners that they personally are into, but generally I think the solution to men being shitty isn't for women to start acting shitty too, but rather for men to stop acting poorly for once. Otherwise, it's just a race to the bottom (and not in the fun, ski race kind of way)
@idontwantahandlethough It’s not wrong or awful for men to ask for a traditional wife. In fact, I have maaany friends who are independent and strong women while at the same time WANTING to be traditional wives. If women can ask for men who financially support them (which many do), then men can ask for a traditional wife (because many women want to be that for men).
Charlie, it’s much more simple than that. The problem is that she expressed preference in her spouse at all, instead of just being a pile of goo for him to mold. He’s allowed to have an idea of who he wants, but he never expected she might also want her spouse to have any specific trait. That makes her too human and not just “a female”. She could’ve expressed any preference and she would’ve received the same response.
On the nail. Guys like him basically want they're wife to not want or want the opposite of what the man wants so that the man can feel like the one with power. Basically he's in control and she follows. Her showing enthusiasm for the role he expects of her ruins the power fantasy.
I mean to be fair she was totally baiting him. Her response was not legitimate. You can tell because it was formatted like 1 to 1 in the same way that he stated his preference. She was mocking him. Which is fine lol, he deserves to be mocked. But her response definitely had the same energy as when a woman asks me how tall I am and I reply by asking how much she weighs. 😂
Right on. He's a narc, looking for a woman who will just be an extension of himself and not be an individual with a secure identity. It's a curse that means he will never enjoy true love or friendship.
As someone not particularly emotionally-mature, the fact this guy had an opportunity to get together with someone who seems like a great partner only to ruin it by having a meltdown about how he wanted to sit there like a brick on a couch doing nothing is straight up hilarious.
I feel like it´s his first time really thinking about how much it costs to have traditional family...he was just having this vision that he doesn´t have to cook and clean anymore :D
Which is funny considering how he expected to make so much off his eventual compsci degree. If you’re not going to use that money for expenses and your girl then wtf is that money for? You just gonna hoard that money while your girl works, cleans, and raises the kids? The fuck? From my experience, people like this usually don’t do well in the compsci field. They’re too opinionated and struggle with any new things or changes in a field that is always changing and advancing. These people usually don’t make it passed the trial period if they even make it through the interview. Plus getting that degree will require hard work which the guy doesn’t seem to be interested in doing. The field has become pretty competitive so you’ll definitely want a masters to guarantee a good job and paycheck in compsci. Which is even more hard work.
Ye this guy is an idiot, I don't have problems w modern women but my preference on Avg is for them to be traditional, the main problem isn't that distinction it's the fact that I feel some 'trad wives' just want to sit on their ass and do nothing and some modern women want to make their life more about their career than a family, I have a problem w both, at least ik a traditional wife will want a family and kids and shit (if a man likes those traits and wants them for it all power to them, but both people in it need to put in work and accept the responsibilities they have within those relationships) , another issue is the modern cost of a relationship which is insane if you really want to have a traditional relationship you should be able to have one not 2 college degrees barely paying a mortgage and not even that only rent nowadays. There should be an option.
Extra info from her comments on Reddit: 1. he got drunk on their date 2. SHE paid for their date, because he “forgot his wallet” 3. he snapped at the server to call them over, then proceeded to “order for her” (…i bet he read a book about how men are meant to lead or something), but chose something she’s allergic to (ROFL). then got put out by her having to change her order (guess his little experiment “leading” didn’t go so well lol)
That third thing was from a red pill Podcaster lmao. There's a video where he uses his "wife" as an example and basically treats her like a pet, leading her into the restaurant, ordering for her, making sure she's not looking at other guys just passing by, etc. His main "advice" on being an "alpha" is ordering food for the woman. It's so sad tbh. The guy in this post probably follows red pill podcasts and things of that nature. The girl in this post was saved by the grace of God - or knew during their date and made the most Chad play she could think of to expose this clown.
Idk if I can believe all of this because that sounds like a terrible first date and I can't fantom why the woman would still be receptive to him as she was at the start of the texts if he already showed this kind of behavior.
my favourite part is the saying of "emotionally stable, takes care of themself, good with kids", then calling them female traits, does he think men are supposed to be aggressive, dirty, and bad with children? i feel like these are the same guys who will unironically call people "fatherless" for doing stuff they dont agree with
@@FGL_Apex maybe thats because women are pushed into that role more so they have to be more nurturing, or there are more expectations and learning for women around that role, idk though, just a thought.
@@FGL_Apex On the one hand I'm sure biologically there are some factors at play but I think the biggest thing here is centuries of gender roles having been enforced. A lot of people just don't know any better bc it's what society has always taught us, and the shitty part is that bc of that, ppl like the dude from the video use it as an excuse to completely push those kinds of roles onto women and expect them to do all the work when it comes to taking care of kids, maintaining the house, etc (works this way for guys too, mind you, with society teaching them they need to be "strong" and "aggressive" and preferably not show too many emotions bc it's feminine, etc..) Not the case for everyone of course but yeah, there's so much conditioning done by society to have made us what we are today tbh
@@FGL_ApexIt's mostly a societal thing, how boys and girls are encouraged to have certain traits (sometimes forced) and gender roles and traditional family structures where the mother raises the children mostly on her own and the father is in there ocassionally. Of course kids will be closer with their mom that way, it doesn't mean 'women are naturally more nurturing' or anything, women are just made to embrace and enhance that side of themselves, and men are made to suppress it.
@@Hello-hello-hello456it's not though, it's predominantly biology. Look at the animal kingdom and you see the same thing with nurturing mothers, are you going to tell me that's because of forcing them into gender roles too? Not everything is due to gender roles. Some of our traits are just biologically predetermined.
@@FGL_ApexI’m a guy working with very young kids-pre k-, and have come to believe these roles are completely cultural. I see boys hugging, playing with skirts, plush dolls, dancing, while also enjoying superheroes and trucks. There are girls who like to build, couldn’t care less about taking care of anything, and would rather dress as Spider-Man then a princess. I think you’re missing the point. Women *seem* like they’re more nurturing because that is the role they’re taught to fill. Before this stuff is pushed onto kids, they don’t magically conform to these roles, or even know they exist. They just do whatever they want until someone reinforces or discourages certain behavior.
Compsci degree says it all. Dude grew up a nerd and terrified of women based on HS experiences. Also I know 4 dudes who all have Compsci degrees: -One is unemployed and lives at home. -One works for the post office. -One fixes cars at a dealership. -One finally has a good job and money after being broke and living at home until 30. Not knocking the degree (I couldn’t do that one at all), but it’s not a slam dunk you’re landing a great job with that when I know smarter people than myself who aren’t even doing that for a living.
they want someone to take care of the kids but also contribute to the bills.. how does one work while also providing childcare during the day? The math aint mathin.
Basically he freaked out at the suggestion that she also has expectations of him and that he would also have responsibilities in a relationship like this.
So he wants a 'traditional' woman who will cook, clean the house, care for her looks, be there for his every whims and desires, and do every grueling thing involved in raising kids BUT ALSO to top it off he wants her to have a job to help pay the bills? Jesus Christ, thinking about that schedule makes my head hurt and body ache.
He wants a woman who gives endless emotional and physical labor to him and the kids, and then also earn money working outside the home, all the while looking like model. Im so glad Im single and never married.
It's sad that some women(and sometimes men) are in that exact scenario right now. Because their partner didn't show their true colors after they had kids together, and as soon as the kids were born their partner just decided they were not gonna take care of the kid at all. So one of them has to go to work, and take 100% full care of the kid, and sometimes are also expected to do most of the homechores too... While the other "partner" comes home and plays Xbox for hours or watches TV and goes to sleep. Typically when the lazy one is the husband it's because he wants the appearance of being a dependable married man with kids. Married men with kids more often get promotions because it makes them look better in the eyes of colleagues and bosses. We live in a fake world truly where being a straight up liar manipulator is rewarded.
Oh man. It's almost like the ideal of a "traditional" family that he built up in his head is based on both cultural and economic circumstances that no longer exist. Big whoops that he didn't notice that time passing affects a lot of things.
I so deeply want to ask him what he’d be contributing to the relationship if he won’t pay for anything, do any housework, cook, or help raise his hypothetical children.
I actually dug through the comments on that thread and the 'humiliation' was even worse. He apparently ordered for her and she was allergic to what he ordered on her behalf so she changed it to something she could actually eat. The flags were there from the beginning.
I went into this thinking "well he's not wrong to want to have that and she seems cool with it" and then...he fucked it up with that double standard shit.
the thing is she doesn't expect him to be insanely rich, she just expects him to have a job, but god forbid he lifts a finger to help provide for his family
Wanting a traditional home life is fine. What’s weird is wanting a traditional housewife but then not wanting to provide for her. She didn’t even make a statement about income, he just pulled that out of nowhere
Seriously, the LEAPS this man took just to be shitty to someone he went on ONE date with. I hope he grows tf up, or failing that, women run for the hills at the sight of him.
I read this earlier today too, the way she “humiliated” him at the restaurant was because he ordered something for her without asking, and she told the waiter she was allergic and got something else.
Lmao soooo she paid for it all and he took it upon himself to order her meal. What was she supposed to do eat it anyway and end up at the hospital for an allergic reaction? 💀
So, i have been watching your videos for the last couple of days and dude.. You are hilarious. Watching you read through these unhinged text messages is miles ahead in terms of entertainment than anything Hollywood released in the past decade.
I'm a career woman who works for a major company and am completely self sufficient and financially independent and I've been called a gold digger for lending one of my exes money and expected him to pay it back, and another one told me I was after his money after I spent $600+ taking care of his monthly household expenses and spent the entire month being a care taker after he had a medical emergency. These dudes really be having the audacity.
it's kind of sad really. These kind of men have been practically trained into assuming that whatever a woman wants is related to the depth of your pockets... So their reflex reaction is that. It kind of reminds me of when very small, tiny animals try to appear bigger when they feel threatened by a bigger animal, ha.
@@valentinanunez3708 That's how the alpha funnel works I think. The sigma ultra-masculine alpha influencers convince guys that girls are only interested in money, so whenever the losers it works on inevitably fail to sustain a relationship then it must be because girls only care about money. Of course, they can simply fix that problem by buying RedPillManlyMenMan's dropshipping course for $50 a month to gain financial freedom and girls will fall at their feet.
@@MilkywayWarrior1618 oh just, y'know, the idea that's been popularized that women will only date rich, hot or rich and hot dudes and that if you're neither, you're nothing. I don't really know how to explain it but it feels like men have a hard time figuring out that they can be likeable due to their personality as well. I.e. f you're a very low self-steem dude it's obvious you're gonna think there's an ulterior motive for someone being romantically interested in you-- I mean, isn't it obvious? They clearly want to use you for something, right?
What absolutely floors me is they went out, she paid (for at least half the meal) and the next day he goes on a text tirade calling her a bit h. Way back in the day I online dated and it was tough but not INSANE. Why are so many people these days so deranged?
@@Ava-nf2qqit doesn't matter how bad the guy he is, she should be mature for HERSELF. She maintained her own composure and did not let her emotion control her.
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him: "I want a traditional wife"
her: "I want to be a traditional wife"
him: "ew wtf you're a gold digger"
Probably the smartest “sigma” out there.
Which isn't too much different than a pile of shit that doesn't stink, its still a pile of shit.@@MadPaperMario
"I want someone who will cook, clean, take care of the house, raise the kids"
"Okay, yeah thats me, thats what I'm looking for"
"Oh so you want to contribute nothing to the relationship, gold digger?"
"No, I'm literally offering traditional wife skills to the relationship, the exact things you wanted from a partner"
"You're a gold digging harlot! I knew it was too good to be true!!!"
Tell me this guy isn't a fresh and fit fan, please. Theres no way he consumes any other redpill content and misses the mark that hard.
Straight up brain rot
me: "Why do you care"
He doesn't want a tradwife, he wants a mom. Someone who will raise kids, keep home, AND pay for his immature ass.
Highly agree
Isn’t that….. good?
@@TyTy-cx7rpits unrealistic. immature and honestly a tiny bit creepy
😬grow up@@TyTy-cx7rp
Yeah but the only problem is he doesn’t want to sleep with his mom so he’s gonna say it doesn’t count LMAO
Guy found a woman who wants to be a stay at home trad-wife, and managed to call her a gold digger for agreeing with him? These dudes have never had a coherent thought in their lives.
All Star Level of fumbling
hes a dog who finally caught up to a car and had no idea what to do 😂
@@hanu9830oml that's a beautiful response
cause nobody really want a home trad-wife, they want a moms
@@hanu9830i understood that reference 😂
he didn't fumble, he threw the ball on the floor and started crying.
These guys arent looking for a wife, theyre looking for their mom
Heavy on this
We need to stop proving Freud right.
Right on the money. 💯
We need better moms. This is sad.
Yoooooooooo 🤣
The amount of low income men who say that they want a trad wife but scream gold digger when they have to be a provider is astounding
I want a goth big ass girl that loves me and it's 100% loyal no ♾️% loyal that is crazy about me
So real@@leojoking1615
@@leojoking1615lmao what
@@leojoking1615you're probably being sarcastic but
Bro wants a yandere gf 💀 Calm down this aint anime. Someone crazy about you will also be the end of you. Look at someone else and your body is in a river
i am a 13 year old kid who doesn't really know about dating and i also think that this is outstanding
There are actually plenty of women out there who would love to be a trad wife so i used to never understand why redpillers are upset all the time.
But now i know why. They don't even want an actual trad wife. They want someone who acts like a trad wife while also contributing money to their home. 🤦🏻♀️
They just want a mum with benefits. Which is beyond disturbing.
See this is why I hate the term red pilling, because it's supposed to basically mean someone is swapping to being either Republican or conservative when it comes to political mindset, it's not supposed to mean that you're becoming a cringe POS, but unfortunately with situations such as this, with the alpha male podcasts causing Alpha levels of brain rot Within These guys, shit like this is why the term is being poisoned
100%
Thats the contrary of redpill
They should provide with money
Acording to most redpill people
So this guy wants a queen
Without being a king
They want a mother they can sleep with.
So, let me get this straight. This guy threw a whole fit when she offered to pay for half of dinner. Then turns around and calls her a gold digger and "f**k you" for agreeing with him and also wanting a traditional relationship? He's delulu as hell. I'm so happy no one is ever gonna date this guy now 😂
She paid for the whole thing. The “humiliation” was actually her making her own order when he tried to order for her without knowing what she even wanted 😂
@@Princetonian4eva You're right, I made my comment before I heard that part. So wild
she paid for the whole thing😭
Lol
He literally asked for a "homemaker" and then cried when presented with the reality of such an arrangement
It’s insane. I’d love a traditional household but god knows it probably ain’t feasible in my wage bracket :(
@GrayRain0 one day man. Something's Gotta break and it won't be us
@@GrayRain0that ain’t your fault dude it’s becoming harder and harder for people to obtain those lives
He crumbled at being asked to be responsible - a trad wife can only be (happily) sustainable in a trad household these days, where the man will need to provide the income to support the family, not just himself. I can only imagine that he probably has nothing going for him and knows that he could never support the household like that. Being called out and asked to be a man was just too much for this child.
Because he doesn’t want a trad wife. He wants a bang maid that will also work outside the home. It’s going to be a lonely life for this sad loser
I love how he's so brain broken by modern alpha male podcasts that even an actual trad wife is just a "gold digger" to him
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@@UTTPCaptain i can confirm your content is way better at making me want to punch my screen. 10/10 would rage again
Those podcasters aren't actual alpha males. We don't realize it ourselves, but other people notice that when an alpha male walks into a room, there's an air of tacit reverence among the onlookers. That's one of the trademark qualities of being an alpha male: the ability to walk into any room, social setting, or situation and be in complete control of things such that everybody else defers to you and even joins your side for protection.
@@Zenigundam
Those are also the qualities of a Disney Princesses 💀
"I paid for last night my dude 💀"
You can just wrap it up right there
you'll notice how the things he requested became other things as soon as he was frustrated with her.
takes care of herself > plays dress-up
traditional woman > gold digger
this is inherent to the tradwife issue. being a loving supporter to your partner, prioritizing your lifestyle and your children - these aren't anti-feminist. but when you _identify_ yourself with "traditional womanhood," you're introducing yourself to men like this, who will recharacterize the relationship in order to shame and punish you when they're angry. plenty of people who end up financially dependent on abusers can attest to this behavior - their partner will accuse them of being a freeloader for not being able to contribute financially. they will insult and downplay the work their partner puts into the relationship by saying it's natural behavior, part and parcel with maintaining the home, or the least they can do when they don't contribute financially.
glad this guy demonstrated exactly who he was from the jump.
There's nothing wrong with a traditional setup, but you are right that some people jump straight into it without knowing their partner, and it's harder to get free if you don't have a career to fall back on.
I think this is why traditional relationships usually had extended courting periods, and having to pass the scrutiny of other friends and family. Those who care about us tend to be more discerning of character because they aren't blinded by hormones.
You're very much so right on the money. I've seen that shit firsthand a hundred times. And yeah being anti-feminist would be saying women have to be whatever you want them to be. If you want to be a home maker and not work and your partner agrees to that then you can in fact still be a whole feminist so long as you think other women shouldn't be forced to adhere to that traditional role. It doesn't meant you have to be ANTI-homemaker to be feminist it just means you understand and respect that women and people in general should be free to fill whatever traditional or non-traditional role they like without being forced into a box.
Be whatever you want live however you want so long as you're not hurting anyone or forcing a set standard on others outside of basic decency.
well said!!
He didn't want a Tradwife, he wanted a girl who worked full time, but also takes care of the kids on her own and prioritizes being pretty for him.
A guy that likes the idea of a trad wife but isn't willing to get a job
He wanted a mom
He wanted a baby mama
@@cat_clan_leadera trad wife with a trust fund is what he desires I beleive lol.😅
I've heard that referred to as a "Bang Maid".
It's so fucking funny that he says that "emotionally stable, takes care of herself, good with kids" are inherently female traits, like he's implying that emotional stability and taking care of yourself are unreasonable expectations for a man lmao
I absolutely love this part of it. it’s so ironic how he then lends credence to it by being himself lmao
In his defense… he’s living proof that it’s something a lot of men struggle with.
And I’m saying that _as a man_, who is both emotionally unstable and bad at taking care of himself.
It would definitely help if things like therapy, self awareness, and “having emotions on the outside”, weren’t seen as emasculating by some people.
@@MigattenoBlakaeoh very much.i can’t agree more, I hope nothing but healing and happiness for you my fren
@@MigattenoBlakaeright!!! These “alphas” spread rhetoric about men that says showing feelings brings about femininity and make them “weak.” They tell other men to take out their frustrations on women and it just makes the division between women and men worse. Not only this, but they NEVER advise their viewers to get therapy. Instead, they gotta invest in bitcoin or pay thousands of dollars to be in a discord server… how does that help men??? I’m so tired of bs..
To be fair the “traditional lifestyle” is dead. Bc you can’t simply support two people let alone a family, afford two cars, and a family home off one salary unless it’s $250,000+. (Which is like 1% of jobs). It’s not the 60’s anymore.
What IS realistic is a hybrid lifestyle. Both work and BOTH help out with cleaning and parenting, maybe live in an apartment.
"you are belittling her for what you want her to do"
that sums up a lot of misogyny
unfortunately
The women also didn’t swear at all
She not only cooked him she practically turned him into a three course meal
She didn’t dodge a bullet, she dodged a friggin tactical nuke.
this is the funniest comment here lmao
He didn't want a tradwife, he wants a mom...
straight up parried that shit like that one video
@@KittenChristymore like a slave tbh
@@MongiusLordnah but your mommas snatch is definitely better than your content 😂😂😂
-"I want to provide for a woman who will take care of our family"
-"Ok, i want to be provided for and take care of our family"
-"How dare you"
The really messed up part is, there's plenty of men (myself included) who would love that arrangement, but you can't even do that with a middle-class income in most parts of the developed world.
Isn't it so nice that our grandparents and their parents sold our future for a cushy retirement?
@Nerobyrne I have this but it didn't come easy. You're so right.
Here's the thing, don't ask for a traditional wife if you're not going to be a traditional husband.
The same applies on the other end of the spectrum here don't ask for a traditional husband if you're not going to be a traditional wife.
The problem in this scenario though was the fact that the dude just wanted to be careful like he was still a child, and yet still do things that adults do, but yet didn't want to actually be the other half of the role that comes with being a traditional family.
I'm sure y'all don't need a lengthy description like I've known for doing unfortunately, so I won't bore you guys with a paragraph, lol.
Overall though, people sometimes are just wanting Maids that help with bills, and they should be avoided at all costs. They're not worth while, they're narcissistic and self-centered, and they're not going to put themselves out at all for the sake of the family, only for themselves.
When I once was, untouchable, innocence roared. Still amazes.
When I once was, innocent, it is still here, but in different places.
@@Winter-Alpha-Omegadang!
Is nobody going to point out that he thinks being "emotionally stable" is a female trait?
Oh someone already did and I gotta say, it's friggin hilarious
i'm willing to bet he thinks PLENTY of women are not emotionally stable. i think this because he felt the need to point out that "GOOD females" are naturally emotionally stable.
The audacity to text "u up right now?" after that tantrum is hilarious💀
people really falling for obvious trolls for some reddit karma
It's fake homie
@@SynthhInHD Is it though?
@@SynthhInHD ok cool?💀
That is absolutely baffling
I love how emotional stability is an inherently female trait to these kinds of people, but at the same time, women are these crazy hysterical creatures that can’t control their emotions. Which one is it, then?
Easy, we're whichever option is most convenient for them at any given time, obviously 💀
Isn't that strange....because not so many moons ago he would have signed his wife up for a lobotomy... over her "emotions" or anything else he decided.
I think it was a Freudian slip letting her know he's emotionally unstable. Not the only thing Freud studied that could be applied to this guy, he's looking for a mother not a partner.
the 2nd one
@@crispcrisp3553 it was a rhetorical question mr. involuntarily celibate 🤣🫵 stupid
I don’t think buddy knows what a traditional relationship is.
Clearly not 🤦♂️
"Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" goes so hard.
They don't want a traditional wife, they want some weird trad wife/progressive career woman hybrid type wife. Which is impossible. You can only have one, unless you want the poor woman to have a mental breakdown.
She needs to have a good paying job that can pay for his hobbies but also be willing to quit her job at the drop of a hat to take care of the kids and clean the house but also be willing to resume her job again at a moment's notice while also taking care of the kids by remote working and part timing but also quit again when he needs an outlet for his libido to be his personal on-call sex doll but also work again because he needs money but also quit when
He wants a mom he can f***. Guys like this are becoming pretty common.
@@Mikozee he probably also expects her to change his diapers every hour, jesus christ these type of men are fucking lossers
The weirdest thing is that when they somehow find that one in a million woman who'll pay for them and even do house chores, they still manage to mess up, because of their ego 😂. I've known many women who ended up being cheated on, because apparently the husbands can't take that their wifes are earning more money, cause it makes em feel self-conscious about not being the bread winners
@@QuietPianobecause these types of people don't want what they think they want, they just want a blow up doll
Can we talk about how well each of her responses were constructed? She handled this like a fucking G! She dogged him.
almost too perfect yknow
and in this clout hungry world you never really know if any of these convos are real
@@CassCat69 that’s fair.
@@CassCat69 I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait. If it's not, he's definitely a manchild, she's definitely a gold digger, and the comments here make me lose faith in humanity.
@@briangwynn3592was it you texting her 💀
Yes, totally. They actually reasoned with this person. I would have given up after the first message, it already reeks sexism.
take it as a dub because the earlier he exposes himself the more troubles she saved herself from.
A strange but related side note. I use to work in drug rehabilitation and when people (usually women) who are expected to take care of the kids, work, handle the home and finances, they turn to substance abuse. It is TERRIFYING the statistics on parents (again, usually mothers) that are abusing methamphetamines.
yea not surprising, back in the day so many women would have mental breakdowns from that shit and a lot of them were prescribed drugs or institutionalized for it
i think people like this guy don’t see housework and childcare as work, but they absolutely are. Thats part of the deal of one partner staying at home.
yes, i saw a video is a lady whose husband called useless because she doesnt do anything and she decided not to clean the house for 2 days and it was a whole mess
They certainly see it as work once they have to do it tho!
not only is it work, it's important work!! Like jesus christ, how do people still not realize that taking care of children is like... literally one of the THE most important jobs there is?! Having a parent (or two, if you're really lucky) that cares about you and puts serious & consistent effort into your development gives you the biggest possible advantage in life imaginable. I really don't think I can overstate how important it is, and yet so many act like it's easy or not important :/
Child care is nothing like house work 😂 it’s a full time job with no breaks and no vacation.
but its very easy and childcare takes both parents, and only after couple years it goes away
I'm still in shock with how lovely and patient this woman was towards this guy even after he called her all possible names. She deserves way better than this.
💯
fr, my pettiness would have made me block them after they said "something is wrong with you" lmaoo
Honestly, the way she was acting can get under people like the guy’s skin more than anything lol
Im Charlie’s evil twin from a different dimension
She more than likely doesn't even exist in this situation.
He wants: 1. A housewife
2. That covers her own expenses
He offers: 1.
Woman who are married and who experience what he describes, being a trad wife and a working woman end up getting divorced because they are expected to do everything. Those woman describe their situation as being single married woman. It is nice though that she knows this upfront about this guy, she saved herself a lot of headache.
It also sets you up for financial abuse. And really any kind of abuse. Because it's a lot harder to leave if you don't have an income. Especially if you haven't worked in say 10 years... Now you have a 10 year gap on your resume. How will you ever support yourself, or kids if you have them?
Oh but of course, if you ask for alimony or child support people think you're evil and "stealing" his money. Even though he never would have gotten so far in his career if you weren't supporting him, and you intentionally quit your job just so you could support him. But apparently his money is his and you were just working unpaid for all that time..
Wait, if he was so offended by the idea of him being the provider, then why did he feel humiliated when she paid for the food?
I just read a comment that said it wasn't bc she paid, apparently its because he tried to order her food for her and she turned it down bc of allergies, which is an even more pathetic reason to get "humiliated" 😂
@@cptteacosy6158 Who the fuck orders for someone else on their first date if they don't even know them, what they like or can't/won't eat lmao. The first date is literally there to get to know eachother. Making decisions for a stranger you don't know (yet) sounds like a huge red flag.
@@livingcheese2910 it's a fucking crimson flag homie stay WELL fucking clear of that 😂
Patrick Bateman.@@livingcheese2910
@@cptteacosy6158 bro is embarrassing. Doesn’t complain about his bill being paid but calls her a gold digger, and mad he can’t order her food like she’s a kid
He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that
Crazy yeah
Also who wants a traditional wife in THIS economy. Man has to be early 20s late teens. Ain’t no way someone is that dumb
"He wanted an unpaid maid, nanny, sex worker who also works another job and pays his bills. God I hate that"
Well he can want any crazy non-existent thing he can dream up but it's not happening because it's not possible.
I think you'd need three wives for this. Two of them are high income earners who for some reason don't mind paying everyone else's bills. One of them is a superhuman homemaker tradwife. Even then, you can't have children with all of them because the tradwife isn't going to be able to raise that many children (most of whom aren't hers) while also cooking cleaning for four adults and three sets of children.
God the more I think about this the more I see how totally unsustainable it is to have just one person be a totally useless lump.
"you're only with me for my money" that alone tells me his mindset he isn't looking for love hes looking for a second mommy
I knew a guy like this. Had a laundry list of requirements (not just preferences) he was looking for in a partner. When I asked him what he had to offer in return, his answer was… “loyalty”. Just loyalty. He didn’t have a high paying job, nor did he even have his own place, but the cherry on the top was him insisting that he’d want his future wife to sign a prenup so she couldn’t just decide one day she’d prefer alimony over her marriage. Because apparently women just spontaneously do that. According to the bitter divorced men he’d heard of. Nooo, these men hadn’t done anything to push their ex-wives away, they were saints. Unthinkable that might be the case. They were just victims of these women who got bored of marriage and cashed in one day. One requirement on his laundry list was that his partner could never have been engaged before, let alone actually married ‘cause “they’d made their decision”. Tough luck if their partner turned out not to be who they thought… like being abusive. It just demonstrated a lack of loyalty for leaving a relationship like that, of course 🚩🚩🚩
There is nothing wrong with wanting a traditional relationship. But if you want a tradwife, you need to be a tradhusband. And as a tradhusband your role is to be the provider of the family, which quite literally means you are paying for the entire family, including your wife
And it usually means handing over your paycheque to the wife since she's the one in charge of household expenses.
@@zammmerjammeryep lol that’s exactly how my parents were. Dad makes the money, mom pays bills, grocery shops, and does taxes. That shit got old and stale though because that’s not economically feasible for the working class anymore.
@@CrystalRose1111that's why trad families went out of style the only way to make by nowadays is duel income
Another bastard for whom the 1950s sounds like the best decade to live in
@@adambednarek2007 I mean, the economy was fucking great. I'd love to have the 50's economy along with the modern-day embrace of human diversity. But yeah, most people who wax poetic about that time are waxing poetic about the shitty social values of the time, too.
This one was just painful. He literally had it in the bag and still had to go full entitled incel and absolutely fumble it lol The thing about these guys is they basically want a mom who will take care of them and their home but they refuse to return the favor. It’s like if you want this “trad wife” who’s gonna do all that you better be bringing A LOT to the table for them too.
Nah I don’t think he had anything in the bag I’m pretty sure she was mocking his douchey expectations from the beginning lol
@@musclegeek1991 I don't hope that's the case
@@musclegeek1991I hope so because I’m sure there were red flags before he got all “gold digger!”
@@musclegeek1991Not really. Despite the trad wife being kind of outdated, healthy relationships can still be maintained from it and many people do. I don’t see the red flag in the beginning but as Charlie said, to have a trad wife, he’d need to be a trad husband because the relationship just wouldn’t work. He basically wanted a parent instead of a wife would provide everything for him which was the wrong part but trad families are pretty common and healthy
@@gigamad1729 he had already shown her on the first date that he wasn’t capable of supporting the trad wife he wanted, because she had to pay for dinner.
She was mocking him, 100%
I can’t even comprehend the fact that someone over the age of 18 manages to be this childish.
Severe mommy issues and/or enablement
The woman handled it absolutely like a boss IMHO. I don't agree with the concept of "tradwife", in today's world, with the costs of living and all it's almost and impossible thing, but if that's her goal, she's absolutely nailed it with her responses and all without losing her sh*t....
This is the part of the whole "trad-wife" thing I don't get. If you want a stay-at-home wife/girlfriend, you HAVE to be providing for that lifestyle. That means working your ass off. And if you're willing to do that, because that's what you want, then more power to you. But the expectation that your partner will never want anything is absolutely insane. Get a sexbot if that's what you're looking for.
They don’t really want a trad wife. They just want someone to control and abuse
The 'trad-wife' community and the 'red-pill' community are two completely different groups. I find it funny how much the red-pill talks highly about trad-wives while all of the trad-wives would hate their guts for promoting male sexual promiscuity while at the same time insulting and degrading women for even daring to have premarital sex with any man other than himself.
The man from that text conversation clearly watches so much red-pill content that it rotted his mind to mush.
Plus what i dont get, in this economy most of the time it requires both people to have a job to survive especially when you have kids but when both you and your wife work an 8 hour shift you can't expect her to do all the chores take care of the kids etc. thats why the whole Trad wife thing is retarded and all people over the age of 14 should realize that
"it"? I think you mean "them" dude
@@hospitable_ghostI think by ‘it’ they mean the lifestyle, not the woman
“Hey. You up right now?” Is a perfect cherry on top of this cringe meltdown. The audacity he had to come back after just cursing out that poor woman 💀
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It's always those types of dudes who pull that shit. Anybody sensible knows how to a) avoid misogynistic implosions; b) time their booty calls.
@@thisisforvids Hey. You up right now?
@@nloc1929Hey. You up right now?
A lot of newer relationships share the responsibility of laundry, cleaning the house, taking care of the children and working. He wants all of that but also not to share any of the house work. What a piece of garbage.
Listen no one confident in their sexuality feels threatened if someone doesn't assume they're straight 💀💀💀
its so odd that he literally found a woman that was ok with pumping out babies and doing chores her whole life and somehow managed to still get mad at her for asking for the bare minimum of being financially stable
That's why I stop engaging in a conversation with a guy whenever he mention " I want a traditional wife", it's not wrong to want one but there's always a price for what you want and usually those guys aren't willing to pay for that.
Cuz these kinda guys really just want a sex slave maidservant mommy.
incels when they realize having a traditional wife means she won't work 🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@osuplaeyurreallygood hahaha
@@osuplaeyurreallygoodtaking care of the kids and cleaning and upkeeping the house is work but these males won’t consider it as work
One of the reasons traditional housewives just aren’t as common anymore is because the cost of living is so expensive that both parties now have to work. So if you’re asking for a traditional housewife it’s implied that you’re well off financially. If you can’t even pay the bill to take her on a date, you’re in no position to ask her to be a traditional housewife.
also too women know now that its p scary to be fully financially dependent on a man who can dump u at any time (before u say alimony, its a lot less common than youd think)
This is very true, you need a reasonably good job if you want to fully commit to that lifestyle. It's so sad that the economy is ruining these kinds of relationships
@@cat_clan_leader another major reason is that women know it’s very risky to rely on a man financially so even without the economy it would be decreasing
@@Kittenlover113355 then that's the man's fault for pushing for a relationship he can't support. If you can't support that kind of relationship, then pick another one. It's really only fitting for guys who know the system and are equipped for a moderately well paying job, but then then not all of them want a trad relationship anyways, so it becomes even more rare
It's doable on single income if he makes over the high $80k range. Also, not live in any major city or suburb. But the relationship has to be based off of being best friends, partner, consultant, etc.. You have to be really happy and enjoy your life together to make that life work in digital age.. NOTHING is easy to hide anymore, that trust better be cranked all the way to 100%...
Pretty ironic how he's looking for an "emotionally stable" wife when he throws a tantrum over a text message
pretty sure "emotional stability is a female trait" was a confession from him lmao
“full soiled diaper temper tantrum meltdown” got me cracking up
5:03
That guy wants a slave not a wife. He wants her to not only do all the house chores, care for the kids, and have to go out and work he wants her doing 3 times the physical labor he does. Disgusting
ughfhggghhh i guess i wanna be a slave then
HOLY FUCK LOL NO MY BAD THIS GUY WANTS AN *ACTUAL* SLAVE IM SO SORRY FOR NOT WATCHING FIRST
He got this from his forum on Reddit, he must genuinely be tired of being a content creator.
Never a content "creator" @@mtacrdipo7870
he basically wants a replacement for his mom, and that's super fuckin weird
Nothing wrong with wanting a traditional wife if you are willing to be a traditional husband. This dude has double standards out the wazoo, that girl sounds super chill and cool and I'm sorry she had to deal with that. Hope she moves on to better things and I hope he reevaluates himself.
FACTS
Saying that with a Stalin profile pic is so funny.
Bro wanted a 2nd Mommy he could also bang.
Pretty sad.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 I think that comment was taken verbatim from Stalin's manifesto actually.
100% true. Couldn’t have said it better myself
6:40 these guys usually wait til after they're married to flip-flop like this..
these are my favorite...the convos that start out with so much potential, then just completely take a nose dive out of the blue because the most miniscule reason ever
Her biggest mistake was assuming an incel would want a woman to be happy
Facts
How she didn't instantly ghost him when he said the line "be a female" is beyond me. He must be tall.
@@insensitive919tall??
it’s a skit 😂
What do you mean?@@DietDrKelp420
She really handled this with such class, hats off I would have given the same spiteful energy 💀
I was angrier than she let off, this level of abject idiocy is like a matador cape for me
Fr like I would’ve taken advantage of the situation, might as well make him say even crazier shit for fun
I hate the whole ”trad“ mentality ngl. Feels like the trad men want robots with no ambition or personality and the trad women are fighting against their own interest and freedom.
It does feel like that
If being emotionally stable and good with kids is an inherently feminine trait, I must've lost the genetic lottery.
Pick me
@@ahnaflfc369 That's not how being a "pick me" works.
@@PhilomathWizardThose types dont know how anything works; they just regurgitate things they hear online for a quick dopamine kick.
I was just about to comment this 🤣 I realllly don't like babies and children because of my anxiety. I apparently have 0 inherently feminine traits 💀
Same. I really dislike being near children for any length of time. Just don't know how to handle them. Its nothing against children, I just don’t know how to take care of them, and feel no urge to learn beyond basics. If the kid can't tell me what it needs, it shouldn't be left in my care. No "mothering instinct" has ever existed in me.
It's insane to me that a lot of men want an equal earning wife who ADDITIONALLY takes care of the kids, and him, and looks perfect while doing it. Like, imagine if the roles were reversed. That's not fair.
The funniest part is that when you point it out, they call you a misandrist 😑😑
@@ameliag.9940 sassy man apocalypse is better than the alpha male apocalypse fr
@@scintellamochi2721 Like... a himbo apocalypse?
@@ameliag.9940 no, men have just been really sassy lately and its such a better change than them being andrew tate suckers
@@scintellamochi2721If we had more Andrew tates in this world that would also benefit women aswell lmao, yet you want men to be feminine and weak.
Something about this guy doesn't make me all that surprised that he can't grasp the concept of "traditional masculinity"
I spend a lot of time on the road for work, always brightens my day listening to Charlie read insufferable dudes trying to rizz
She's lucky to only had spent one dinner on him and not 10 years in a marriage with kids.
Charlie should not be talking
Yeah at least he was up front
@@NathanBlackmen ???
@krimson8317 Most likely a bot. It's been years, and TH-cam still hasn't fixed the bot issue. They don't seem to care 😕
She sounds selfish ash, make HER house a home, while working on HERSELF, while he takes care of HER. That ain't traditional. That's modern simping that ain't how your great great great grandmother was tf. This shii is acceptable?I always wondered why older men like my uncle's would steer us away from marriage. I'm older now and it makes sense. To what man does this shii sound good?? What does the guy get cause nothing in her response equated to anything other than herself.
I saw this post on Reddit. The whole “humiliation” situation was because he’d tried to order for her…and she refused what he’d tried to order because she was allergic to it. I assumed it was because of money at first, but she’d explained it was over his order for her. She was the one to foot the bill though.
Trying to order someone else's meal is fuckin' wild.
I feel like this guy is just a control freak that just wants to have power over his woman. This is really pathetic.
She's allergic like wtfff
I’ve seen the same post on am I the asshole on FB LOL
@@AzraelReaperX it is to us but oldheads really did/do that shit n even encourage it for beaucoup reasons
her statement of your not looking for trad woman your looking for nanny and maid who can pays the bills also was spot on
Also I'm reminded by a quote from In this moment. "But let me tell you something baby, you love me for all the things you hate me for"
I hate how today it's completely normal for a man to say he wants a trad wife, but if a woman says she wants a traditional man she's automatically a gold digger.
It works both ways, my lovelies.
It's not real bud
I’m also positive that they call women who want traditional men gold diggers because they’re not traditional themselves most of the time, I’m talking about the women
or, perhaps, it should work neither way? I mean obviously everyone should pursue the romantic partners that they personally are into, but generally I think the solution to men being shitty isn't for women to start acting shitty too, but rather for men to stop acting poorly for once.
Otherwise, it's just a race to the bottom (and not in the fun, ski race kind of way)
It's not normal. You literally just saw one dude try to do that and everyone is shitting on him. This isn't just a problem for women.
@idontwantahandlethough It’s not wrong or awful for men to ask for a traditional wife. In fact, I have maaany friends who are independent and strong women while at the same time WANTING to be traditional wives. If women can ask for men who financially support them (which many do), then men can ask for a traditional wife (because many women want to be that for men).
Charlie, it’s much more simple than that. The problem is that she expressed preference in her spouse at all, instead of just being a pile of goo for him to mold. He’s allowed to have an idea of who he wants, but he never expected she might also want her spouse to have any specific trait. That makes her too human and not just “a female”. She could’ve expressed any preference and she would’ve received the same response.
On the nail. Guys like him basically want they're wife to not want or want the opposite of what the man wants so that the man can feel like the one with power. Basically he's in control and she follows. Her showing enthusiasm for the role he expects of her ruins the power fantasy.
He just wanted a bang slave
I mean to be fair she was totally baiting him. Her response was not legitimate. You can tell because it was formatted like 1 to 1 in the same way that he stated his preference. She was mocking him.
Which is fine lol, he deserves to be mocked. But her response definitely had the same energy as when a woman asks me how tall I am and I reply by asking how much she weighs. 😂
Right on. He's a narc, looking for a woman who will just be an extension of himself and not be an individual with a secure identity. It's a curse that means he will never enjoy true love or friendship.
@@musclegeek1991 but then proceeds to call her a gold digger for no reason and insult her
Dudes want the relationship their mom and dad had, But aren't half the men their dads were.
Sending a “Hey, you up?” Text after all that is nasty work😂😂😂
As someone not particularly emotionally-mature, the fact this guy had an opportunity to get together with someone who seems like a great partner only to ruin it by having a meltdown about how he wanted to sit there like a brick on a couch doing nothing is straight up hilarious.
I feel like it´s his first time really thinking about how much it costs to have traditional family...he was just having this vision that he doesn´t have to cook and clean anymore :D
Which is funny considering how he expected to make so much off his eventual compsci degree. If you’re not going to use that money for expenses and your girl then wtf is that money for? You just gonna hoard that money while your girl works, cleans, and raises the kids? The fuck?
From my experience, people like this usually don’t do well in the compsci field. They’re too opinionated and struggle with any new things or changes in a field that is always changing and advancing. These people usually don’t make it passed the trial period if they even make it through the interview. Plus getting that degree will require hard work which the guy doesn’t seem to be interested in doing. The field has become pretty competitive so you’ll definitely want a masters to guarantee a good job and paycheck in compsci. Which is even more hard work.
Idk I sit like a brick but I work most days a week and long hours while my gf takes care of our two daughters and cleans
Ye this guy is an idiot, I don't have problems w modern women but my preference on Avg is for them to be traditional, the main problem isn't that distinction it's the fact that I feel some 'trad wives' just want to sit on their ass and do nothing and some modern women want to make their life more about their career than a family, I have a problem w both, at least ik a traditional wife will want a family and kids and shit (if a man likes those traits and wants them for it all power to them, but both people in it need to put in work and accept the responsibilities they have within those relationships) , another issue is the modern cost of a relationship which is insane if you really want to have a traditional relationship you should be able to have one not 2 college degrees barely paying a mortgage and not even that only rent nowadays. There should be an option.
@@sage1682 That's not sitting like a brick, that's working from home, which is not a problem at all.
Extra info from her comments on Reddit:
1. he got drunk on their date
2. SHE paid for their date, because he “forgot his wallet”
3. he snapped at the server to call them over, then proceeded to “order for her” (…i bet he read a book about how men are meant to lead or something), but chose something she’s allergic to (ROFL). then got put out by her having to change her order (guess his little experiment “leading” didn’t go so well lol)
That third thing was from a red pill Podcaster lmao. There's a video where he uses his "wife" as an example and basically treats her like a pet, leading her into the restaurant, ordering for her, making sure she's not looking at other guys just passing by, etc. His main "advice" on being an "alpha" is ordering food for the woman. It's so sad tbh. The guy in this post probably follows red pill podcasts and things of that nature. The girl in this post was saved by the grace of God - or knew during their date and made the most Chad play she could think of to expose this clown.
It's from Reddit? Yeah this shit is 100% fake LOL
do you have the link??
Idk if I can believe all of this because that sounds like a terrible first date and I can't fantom why the woman would still be receptive to him as she was at the start of the texts if he already showed this kind of behavior.
@@LDub01031994 exactly doesnt make sense at all. Most of it is probably made up.
Bro had a connection at the start too… tf did he think she was going to do not being allowed to work and take care of the home/family 😭
2:44 CHARLES IF YOU DON’T FUCKING STOP SAYING THAT 😭
Him texting her back is like moving away from an npc who's hostile towards you, then coming back and they're totally fine again
“I better never see you in this town again!” 10 minutes pass….”oh hello new comer, welcome to our town”
LOL he was in a zone too high level for him testing aggro range wearing starter gear.
bro de aggro'd
Yeah 😂
Could he be bipolar?
my favourite part is the saying of "emotionally stable, takes care of themself, good with kids", then calling them female traits, does he think men are supposed to be aggressive, dirty, and bad with children? i feel like these are the same guys who will unironically call people "fatherless" for doing stuff they dont agree with
@@FGL_Apex maybe thats because women are pushed into that role more so they have to be more nurturing, or there are more expectations and learning for women around that role, idk though, just a thought.
@@FGL_Apex On the one hand I'm sure biologically there are some factors at play but I think the biggest thing here is centuries of gender roles having been enforced. A lot of people just don't know any better bc it's what society has always taught us, and the shitty part is that bc of that, ppl like the dude from the video use it as an excuse to completely push those kinds of roles onto women and expect them to do all the work when it comes to taking care of kids, maintaining the house, etc (works this way for guys too, mind you, with society teaching them they need to be "strong" and "aggressive" and preferably not show too many emotions bc it's feminine, etc..)
Not the case for everyone of course but yeah, there's so much conditioning done by society to have made us what we are today tbh
@@FGL_ApexIt's mostly a societal thing, how boys and girls are encouraged to have certain traits (sometimes forced) and gender roles and traditional family structures where the mother raises the children mostly on her own and the father is in there ocassionally. Of course kids will be closer with their mom that way, it doesn't mean 'women are naturally more nurturing' or anything, women are just made to embrace and enhance that side of themselves, and men are made to suppress it.
@@Hello-hello-hello456it's not though, it's predominantly biology. Look at the animal kingdom and you see the same thing with nurturing mothers, are you going to tell me that's because of forcing them into gender roles too?
Not everything is due to gender roles. Some of our traits are just biologically predetermined.
@@FGL_ApexI’m a guy working with very young kids-pre k-, and have come to believe these roles are completely cultural. I see boys hugging, playing with skirts, plush dolls, dancing, while also enjoying superheroes and trucks. There are girls who like to build, couldn’t care less about taking care of anything, and would rather dress as Spider-Man then a princess. I think you’re missing the point. Women *seem* like they’re more nurturing because that is the role they’re taught to fill. Before this stuff is pushed onto kids, they don’t magically conform to these roles, or even know they exist. They just do whatever they want until someone reinforces or discourages certain behavior.
"snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" lololol
Compsci degree says it all. Dude grew up a nerd and terrified of women based on HS experiences.
Also I know 4 dudes who all have Compsci degrees:
-One is unemployed and lives at home.
-One works for the post office.
-One fixes cars at a dealership.
-One finally has a good job and money after being broke and living at home until 30.
Not knocking the degree (I couldn’t do that one at all), but it’s not a slam dunk you’re landing a great job with that when I know smarter people than myself who aren’t even doing that for a living.
"I want the term "gold digger" to include dudes who look for a woman who will do tons of emotional labour for them" -- Erin Rodgers, 2016
@@NathanBlackmenhow does he act like this?
@@NathanBlackmengenuinely curious about what you could be referring to
What does the emotional labour mean
@@urip_zukoharjolook it up
@@urip_zukoharjobasically someone just takes care of them like a mom without providing the same kind of support
"The problem with a lot of dudes who want a trad-wife is that they refuse to be a traditional husband."
*_EXACTLY_* 🎯
they want someone to take care of the kids but also contribute to the bills.. how does one work while also providing childcare during the day? The math aint mathin.
It's fake homie, this shit was posted on Reddit.
They don't want the responsibility of it.
They will traditionally beat their partner
@@SynthhInHDthis comment was posted TH-cam, has to be fake.
The fact that he called it about her paying the bill was spot on😂
Basically he freaked out at the suggestion that she also has expectations of him and that he would also have responsibilities in a relationship like this.
The “you up” text after absolutely obliterating any chance he had with her was so silly. I love these awful texts
God you can't make this shit up
Thats wild hahahahaha
How do these people's brains function.
That was actually crazy
It's like he moved away for some time to drop the npc's hostility in some game
@@Pot_FriendTHIS IS SO FUCKING TRUE LMFAO, tried to lose aggro xD
So he wants a 'traditional' woman who will cook, clean the house, care for her looks, be there for his every whims and desires, and do every grueling thing involved in raising kids BUT ALSO to top it off he wants her to have a job to help pay the bills? Jesus Christ, thinking about that schedule makes my head hurt and body ache.
He wants a woman who gives endless emotional and physical labor to him and the kids, and then also earn money working outside the home, all the while looking like model. Im so glad Im single and never married.
He doesn’t want a « tradwife » he wants a new mother lol
It's sad that some women(and sometimes men) are in that exact scenario right now. Because their partner didn't show their true colors after they had kids together, and as soon as the kids were born their partner just decided they were not gonna take care of the kid at all. So one of them has to go to work, and take 100% full care of the kid, and sometimes are also expected to do most of the homechores too... While the other "partner" comes home and plays Xbox for hours or watches TV and goes to sleep. Typically when the lazy one is the husband it's because he wants the appearance of being a dependable married man with kids. Married men with kids more often get promotions because it makes them look better in the eyes of colleagues and bosses. We live in a fake world truly where being a straight up liar manipulator is rewarded.
Yeah that's not traditional, tradionally women don't work in a relationship lol
dude thought Stanford Wives was a documentary lmao
I wasn't ready for the casual "to fail his Bronze to Silver LoL promo for the 100th time" casual burn, it took me off-guard
Oh man. It's almost like the ideal of a "traditional" family that he built up in his head is based on both cultural and economic circumstances that no longer exist. Big whoops that he didn't notice that time passing affects a lot of things.
I so deeply want to ask him what he’d be contributing to the relationship if he won’t pay for anything, do any housework, cook, or help raise his hypothetical children.
Well, he has a penis. I think that's his entire case.
I want the evidence that this wasn't two lesbians playing pretend.
@@codynoth4183GUYS, WE FOUND HIM! HE'S THE GUY FROM THE VIDEO!
@@codynoth4183do NOT bring us into this. you’re delusional if you think any lesbian would EVER. this has straight man fumbling written all over it 😂😂
@@codynoth4183And I want evidence that this is infact 2 lesbians playing pretend. You can't just make a claim with no evidence to back it up.
I actually dug through the comments on that thread and the 'humiliation' was even worse. He apparently ordered for her and she was allergic to what he ordered on her behalf so she changed it to something she could actually eat. The flags were there from the beginning.
He ordered for her? That's definitely not a good sign, that seems so rude
Could have told you the flags were there when it was a man demanding a tradwife
That is beyond red flag inducing lmao
That's a red flag, imo. My fiance is more traditional, but he still knows I have a brain and my own tastebuds.
is it normal now that people share these private details ? i find it super weird and reveals the insecurities of the those who show this stuff
I went into this thinking "well he's not wrong to want to have that and she seems cool with it" and then...he fucked it up with that double standard shit.
It's so weird to me when people say "Can I be honest?" When talking about dating like *no my guy, please lie to us all on your dating preferences.*
Charlie is deep into the hellhole of creepy text message conversations now
I’m super better than Charles
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
the bot meeting wtf
i farted. ngl kinda proud of myself
@@GR-ej9mybrawo
he clearly just wants to control her, and the moment she expressed a choice of her own he couldn’t handle it
@Vuuduu07 ratio
@@detrimenDon't engage with the bots, brother. You're making them stronger
@@niclikescakes forgive me, it was too easy and I was weak
@@detrimen atleast the ratio worked 53:0
@@freerobux49 yes, and not at all an outdated meme
the thing is she doesn't expect him to be insanely rich, she just expects him to have a job, but god forbid he lifts a finger to help provide for his family
Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is hands down the best moist quote I’ve heard
Wanting a traditional home life is fine. What’s weird is wanting a traditional housewife but then not wanting to provide for her. She didn’t even make a statement about income, he just pulled that out of nowhere
Seriously, the LEAPS this man took just to be shitty to someone he went on ONE date with. I hope he grows tf up, or failing that, women run for the hills at the sight of him.
I read this earlier today too, the way she “humiliated” him at the restaurant was because he ordered something for her without asking, and she told the waiter she was allergic and got something else.
Lmao soooo she paid for it all and he took it upon himself to order her meal. What was she supposed to do eat it anyway and end up at the hospital for an allergic reaction? 💀
@@ButterflyyyXoxo I don’t know who paid, just that she didn’t want to eat something she was allergic too lol
@@bruced09 she said in the texts that she paid. You can see it at 9:49
“You didn’t give yourself anaphylactic shock! You humiliated me!”
So, i have been watching your videos for the last couple of days and dude.. You are hilarious.
Watching you read through these unhinged text messages is miles ahead in terms of entertainment than anything Hollywood released in the past decade.
Dude she was so mature, understanding, and kind. She didn’t deserve that hatred.
She didn’t dodge a bullet, she dodged a 152 mm artillery shell 💀
This is pretty funny lol
Not funny
@@idisplaypace2411very funny because he’s an Andrew Tate fanboy
@@idisplaypace2411Funniest shit I’ve ever read
@@TheSilentWalkerz Oh god, isn't that pathetic?
I'm a career woman who works for a major company and am completely self sufficient and financially independent and I've been called a gold digger for lending one of my exes money and expected him to pay it back, and another one told me I was after his money after I spent $600+ taking care of his monthly household expenses and spent the entire month being a care taker after he had a medical emergency. These dudes really be having the audacity.
it's kind of sad really. These kind of men have been practically trained into assuming that whatever a woman wants is related to the depth of your pockets... So their reflex reaction is that. It kind of reminds me of when very small, tiny animals try to appear bigger when they feel threatened by a bigger animal, ha.
@@valentinanunez3708 That's how the alpha funnel works I think. The sigma ultra-masculine alpha influencers convince guys that girls are only interested in money, so whenever the losers it works on inevitably fail to sustain a relationship then it must be because girls only care about money. Of course, they can simply fix that problem by buying RedPillManlyMenMan's dropshipping course for $50 a month to gain financial freedom and girls will fall at their feet.
@@valentinanunez3708thank the alpha males for that one
@@valentinanunez3708 In your opinion, why are they trained like that?
@@MilkywayWarrior1618 oh just, y'know, the idea that's been popularized that women will only date rich, hot or rich and hot dudes and that if you're neither, you're nothing. I don't really know how to explain it but it feels like men have a hard time figuring out that they can be likeable due to their personality as well. I.e. f you're a very low self-steem dude it's obvious you're gonna think there's an ulterior motive for someone being romantically interested in you-- I mean, isn't it obvious? They clearly want to use you for something, right?
Jeez she dodged a freight train
What absolutely floors me is they went out, she paid (for at least half the meal) and the next day he goes on a text tirade calling her a bit h. Way back in the day I online dated and it was tough but not INSANE. Why are so many people these days so deranged?
Wow. She handled that perfectly. The emotional maturity is just fucking amazing.
nah i disagree at the end she said “have a good life” which is just stupid. a gross misogynist like him doesn’t deserve that 😂
@@Ava-nf2qqclearly someone is lacking in emotional maturity
@@Ava-nf2qqit doesn't matter how bad the guy he is, she should be mature for HERSELF. She maintained her own composure and did not let her emotion control her.
@@Ava-nf2qq grow up lmfao
@@taitia8619I think u misunderstood them 💀