I always considered this excerpt to be the sole reason why any trombone player would want to play in an orchestra. So that they can hope that someday they get a chance to play it.
Every music student should watch this master class in how to take a very good player and turn them into a great player. What a stunning class. What improvement, and what insight. Really not possible to do better than this.
his tone is phenomenal. so round and full! The variety in articulation dietmar suggested took the excerpt to another level but his base level tone was so so good.
Barry Poupard pretty sure their body size has nothing to do with lung capacity. Breathing gym exercises everyday will build your lungs to be incredibly strong.
I don't agree Ryan. Overall bodysize and specifically chest capacity has everything to do with lung capacity. Simple physiology. We inhale, we fill our lungs (partially), our rib cage gets pushed up and out and the diaphragm gets pushed down blah, blah. The larger the body, the larger the chest capacity, the larger the available space to expand and so the larger the various lung volumes. The trombone is a big instrument needing a lot of air to fill it. The remarkable thing for me is that so many pro trombonists are almost bean pole slim and yet can routinely play a controlled fortissimo which may be almost unbearable at close quarters. Ditto singers (look how slim the King's Singers are) and other wind players. I agree that the lesson is you don't have to built like Pavarotti to play the trombone but by using what your parents gave you ultra efficiently you can actually over come any physiological "disadvanatges".
Barry Poupard okay, I see where you're coming from but I still dont think size of the body is the largest factor. If you get a moment look at any free diver. They're all super small and skinny, yet hold their breath for several minutes at a time. They train their lungs to work as efficiently as possible and also train to expand them as much as possible. I know holding your breath isn't going to help you play any orchestral excerpts, but it's just my way of thinking. Perhaps look in to dci as well. These musicians will often times be sprinting and playing at full volume maintaining perfect control because they train their lungs everyday. For a good example, Carolina Crown is the best brass line in the world right now.
You can tell that the teacher and the pupil are good when you hear the difference between before and after. I think you can crearly hear the difference and the pupil sounds much better after Küblböck's suggestions. Excellent masterclass.
It is so great to watch a master musician's take on something that is not on your instrument. Every musician can take something valuable away from this wonderful insight into a great solo.
What Herr Dietmar is describing with brassy is the difference in approach to brass playing. The orchestral European sound is full and resonant, not a sound that is abrasive or a blasting contest. Notice when the student slowed the air, and opened his airway, the character of his sound changed.
Wow, I have studied this except for many years, and now I have a totally different view of this solo. I’m going to sleep with a new concept for the years incoming…
3:00 Narrow opening = wider sound (omni directional) more (perceived) volume, slow speed of air. (Gold brass bell- comparison for me- wide sound, warm, blends with section) Too open opening = direct sound, quick air. (Yellow brass bell- direct sound, (too) focused, narrow-lightning fast, stands out from others). Comparison as how Jay Friedman explains about, "laser beam loud, and a fog horn soft."- "Games of Opposites" blog article and "Fighting the Horn " article.- that we have to reverse that affect. Fog horn loud = wide, warm, slow air, fill the room sound. Not just pump up all the air marching band style forte, brassy.
It's sort of like the early discussion of the embouchure ... you can't see it, but I can ... There's a healthy stage fright in almost everyone who plays and sings. Even if the performer can't *sense* it, it's often there ...
Had this kinda tech. 35 years ago, teacher wouldn't had to drive once a week, from Stanford for the three or four of us at BBC, ((IDK, why not from USCS - maybe also?))
@@EstebanMonestel Not an Alessi Model or an Edwards, it's a Greenhoe. I'm not sure what model Greenhoe, but that sonic suspension is a dead giveaway that it's a Greenhoe
Only been playing for 3 years trombone in high school I’m able to reach high A flat. From when I started my first year still don’t know if I improved since I don’t have a good sound. Any tips? If so please tell me thank you
Ike Eichenberg my band performed there in February this year, and trust me you will love every second of it. Not only Carnegie Hall, but NYC as well, it was all amazing. Never a dull moment
Saying that severely limits a trombonists repertoire, and will make them always second best to french horns. If you work hard to overcome the brassiness, you will be much more versatile. Just listen to the BBC Proms 2014 or 2016 recording of the Mozart Requiem. The trombones in this are not brassy, and would sound terrible if they were. In fact, the trombones play what the french horn would have played, as there were none in the classical period.
This might be an unpopular opinion. There's very little chance that participating in a master class (as a student) will materially advance your career, but a good chance that it will harm your career. Or?
Mr. Atomic well, you have to get used to new embouchure. cant rly expect him to nail it the first time trying.. this advice will give him the correct color and overtones.
I think that in this phrase what Mr Kublbock meant is that in this excerpt there is something interesting between these 2 keys from D major and D minor trying to dominate the phrase, by showing off themselves. Not in a violent way or something
Had the privilege to play Mahler 3rd sitting next to with him on tour about 27 years ago. Unbeatable.
Praise for the audio. It was easy to notice the sound/tone changes that Dietmar was teaching
Great musician and teacher. He clearly describes what and how should be improved to the student.
I always considered this excerpt to be the sole reason why any trombone player would want to play in an orchestra. So that they can hope that someday they get a chance to play it.
Also Ravel's bolero
@@matthewgiattini8186 i think you are mistaken. That is a reason to not join an orchestra
Ride of the valkyries
Symphony Orchestra > Wind band
I can attest, this is exactly why I'm a professional trombonist. Bolero is exactly not the reason.
Kublbock is not messing around, he goes right in. This is a masterclass that actually gets somewhere, there is actually teaching going on.
Every music student should watch this master class in how to take a very good player and turn them into a great player. What a stunning class. What improvement, and what insight. Really not possible to do better than this.
can we all agree the student is amazing?
his tone is phenomenal. so round and full! The variety in articulation dietmar suggested took the excerpt to another level but his base level tone was so so good.
The only thing I can pick out is his breathing is a bit shaky in places but it would be with Kublock stood infront of you…
Fabulous player.
Yeeeesss !!!
Always amazed at how slim some professional trombonists are and yet they can blow the house down.
Barry Poupard pretty sure their body size has nothing to do with lung capacity. Breathing gym exercises everyday will build your lungs to be incredibly strong.
I don't agree Ryan. Overall bodysize and specifically chest capacity has everything to do with lung capacity. Simple physiology. We inhale, we fill our lungs (partially), our rib cage gets pushed up and out and the diaphragm gets pushed down blah, blah. The larger the body, the larger the chest capacity, the larger the available space to expand and so the larger the various lung volumes. The trombone is a big instrument needing a lot of air to fill it. The remarkable thing for me is that so many pro trombonists are almost bean pole slim and yet can routinely play a controlled fortissimo which may be almost unbearable at close quarters. Ditto singers (look how slim the King's Singers are) and other wind players. I agree that the lesson is you don't have to built like Pavarotti to play the trombone but by using what your parents gave you ultra efficiently you can actually over come any physiological "disadvanatges".
Barry Poupard okay, I see where you're coming from but I still dont think size of the body is the largest factor. If you get a moment look at any free diver. They're all super small and skinny, yet hold their breath for several minutes at a time. They train their lungs to work as efficiently as possible and also train to expand them as much as possible. I know holding your breath isn't going to help you play any orchestral excerpts, but it's just my way of thinking. Perhaps look in to dci as well. These musicians will often times be sprinting and playing at full volume maintaining perfect control because they train their lungs everyday. For a good example, Carolina Crown is the best brass line in the world right now.
@@barrypoupard7009 Bigger lungs when getting fat?????
Well he has diet in his name
You can tell that the teacher and the pupil are good when you hear the difference between before and after.
I think you can crearly hear the difference and the pupil sounds much better after Küblböck's suggestions.
Excellent masterclass.
The student's eyebrows move just like Alessi's 😁
I believe he goes to Juilliard, so that may be why
Arin George fuck julliard julliard is gay
I had a feeling you'd say that
He did - pursuing a masters at northwestern now
@@stephaniecurry45 Joebot alert!
Wow, what an amazing masters class.
It is so great to watch a master musician's take on something that is not on your instrument. Every musician can take something valuable away from this wonderful insight into a great solo.
What Herr Dietmar is describing with brassy is the difference in approach to brass playing. The orchestral European sound is full and resonant, not a sound that is abrasive or a blasting contest. Notice when the student slowed the air, and opened his airway, the character of his sound changed.
Woah! Nice playing Jake!
Wonderful student as well as teacher!
Wow, I have studied this except for many years, and now I have a totally different view of this solo. I’m going to sleep with a new concept for the years incoming…
3:00 Narrow opening = wider sound (omni directional) more (perceived) volume, slow speed of air. (Gold brass bell- comparison for me- wide sound, warm, blends with section)
Too open opening = direct sound, quick air. (Yellow brass bell- direct sound, (too) focused, narrow-lightning fast, stands out from others).
Comparison as how Jay Friedman explains about, "laser beam loud, and a fog horn soft."- "Games of Opposites" blog article and "Fighting the Horn " article.- that we have to reverse that affect.
Fog horn loud = wide, warm, slow air, fill the room sound. Not just pump up all the air marching band style forte, brassy.
He looks nervous cuz he is in front of one of the best trombone player.
Extended Experience Yeah he looks nervous but he sounds amazing!
It's sort of like the early discussion of the embouchure ... you can't see it, but I can ... There's a healthy stage fright in almost everyone who plays and sings. Even if the performer can't *sense* it, it's often there ...
I could here that in his tone...
@@renaissongsmann8889 - The pro know how to utilize that energy and use it to their advantage..
Is there going to be a Vienna Philharmonic Tuba Master Class posted?
no
Pure gold
What insights. Major and minor keys fighting? I'll be listening to my music collection with new ears!
Great! What size bell on b&s Dietmar Küblböck?
8.5". At least that is what Meinl says the section plays with...
9 inch bell B&S MS-14 MODEL
Even me as an Trumpet Player can learn from him
excellent!!!!!!! from japan
Had this kinda tech. 35 years ago, teacher wouldn't had to drive once a week, from Stanford for the three or four of us at BBC, ((IDK, why not from USCS - maybe also?))
What horn is the student playing on? I've seen it a few times from college students, but I don't know what it is. Great sound though!
Greenhoe
theotherlegoguy
Edwards Alessi model
@@EstebanMonestel Not an Alessi Model or an Edwards, it's a Greenhoe. I'm not sure what model Greenhoe, but that sonic suspension is a dead giveaway that it's a Greenhoe
Thanks for recognizing the Greenhoe trombone, one of many variations
It’s a Bach 42 with a greenhoe valve
レッスンを通じパーフェクトなピッチコントロール
やばすぎる
Only been playing for 3 years trombone in high school I’m able to reach high A flat. From when I started my first year still don’t know if I improved since I don’t have a good sound. Any tips? If so please tell me thank you
Which high A flat...?
@@afloatingpineapple6170 3 ledger lines probably
Aditya Bharadwaj hopefully
If you understand German I recommend a video from Armin Bachmann about how to improve your sound.
fantastic
Thank you for watching.
very good advice
haha the end is the best. BRAAAAAm
I have the chance to possibly perform at Carnegie Hall sometime next year
Ike Eichenberg my band performed there in February this year, and trust me you will love every second of it. Not only Carnegie Hall, but NYC as well, it was all amazing. Never a dull moment
When he is singing you can lit hear that he is from austria 😂
The student has got the eyebrow boost!
すごい！
音色がとても良い！！
まるで他の楽器を吹いているようだ。
指導も、分かりやすくて良いですね♪
When Dietmar says "not to brassy" I understand what he means. But I am wondering if that is just because of the difference between instruments...?
Sometimes but in this case no
nice
Thank you for watching.
Wooooooow 😍
I would not know the difference to react right away.
3:59
the young bloke has smiley lips.
Didn't know that different
That’s a bass trombone right?
TBSCcreeper Playz it’s a tenor trombone with an F-attachment valve a bass trombone would have an two valves.
it seems that guy study in juilliard.
The brassy sounds are what define a trumbone and more importantly what type of trumbone!
Lawrence Harasim uh
>being this much of a casual
"Trumbone"
Saying that severely limits a trombonists repertoire, and will make them always second best to french horns. If you work hard to overcome the brassiness, you will be much more versatile. Just listen to the BBC Proms 2014 or 2016 recording of the Mozart Requiem. The trombones in this are not brassy, and would sound terrible if they were. In fact, the trombones play what the french horn would have played, as there were none in the classical period.
You mean Trumphorn?
有汉字字幕就好了
First I fought the professor is giving him shit advices but the student imroved so much
I've been playing for a year in a half and I can play this with ease.
Ezio Tamer bruh, nobody cares, just let everyone enjoy this great masterclass
Then upload a video of you playing it. Why aren’t you in this masterclass then?
So what it’s easy anyways it’s just how you play it
His English is a tad bit confusing when he is teaching but he is a wonderful teacher!
JEDE SPRACHE HAT IHRE GANZ EIGENE WEISE
This might be an unpopular opinion. There's very little chance that participating in a master class (as a student) will materially advance your career, but a good chance that it will harm your career. Or?
How would it harm you?
Whether it is worth it is a valid question but whether it will help you or not? It’s always gonna help you maybe not much but maybe a lot.
His advice made the note out of tune
Mr. Atomic well, you have to get used to new embouchure. cant rly expect him to nail it the first time trying.. this advice will give him the correct color and overtones.
Forgivable when pursuing greater musical output.
first time of the student is super boring, unstable tone and not much if any phrasing at all
He rushed to his half and whole notes
I noticed
We weren't allowed to make any funny faces in the conservatory; weren't even allowed to puff our cheeks!
its like he starts going slightly out of tune and then his eyebrows pull him back on pitch
also not to hate but Dietmar blew really flat on the second note he played
@@bobdull9666 he just picked up the horn and played he didn’t tune or warm up or anything
Have to move on. I don't agree with music being associated with fighting. Good day.
I think that in this phrase what Mr Kublbock meant is that in this excerpt there is something interesting between these 2 keys from D major and D minor trying to dominate the phrase, by showing off themselves. Not in a violent way or something
The student is better than the teacher
absolutely not