For those of you who were at my school's ten year reunion and noticed my empty chair, you can rest assured that I didn't die of AIDS. I just didn't want to go. Don't count on me for the 20 year reunion either.
Didn't waste my time with either myself. Doubt I'd go to a 50th either. Pretty sure that I'll need to supervise paint drying or something equally worthwhile.
My dad died from AIDS in 1992 I was pretty young and didn't understand it so I stood up and told my 3rd grade class and the next day no one (other than my teacher) would come near me. It was awful so I spend then next several years telling people my dad had a cancer. The stigma around this virus was disgusting, I'm. So grateful we've come some far since there.
i am so sorry that they isolated you and treated you and your father that way. i hope you're doing well these days! i know your father would be proud of you and happy that you stood up for him. i's sad that you had to tell people a "better/more accepted" way of death. you know the truth and it's amazing that you told your story here. :)
I wrote a research paper on AIDS for my bachelor's. There is ONE documented case of HIV transmission through kissing, and that was when both partners had actively bleeding mouth sores. Saliva does not transmit HIV--ever. There are, however, rapid HIV tests that use saliva.
Seems a waste to test saliva if it can’t be carried that way… or am I missing something? I’m not a medical professional, do you know why there are saliva tests?
@@meltingpointcreations1457 If it's in your saliva, it's in your blood. It's just an easier, faster way to test if you're infected. Plus it means that people who are afraid of needles or blood are more likely to get tested.
@@meltingpointcreations1457 You can do a rapid saliva test at home. A lot of nonprofits like the Utah AIDS foundation (I live in Utah) can mail out a free rapid saliva test for people to take at home. The rapid test can't be used diagnostically, so if you get a positive test, you'll have to get your blood drawn and sent to a lab. If you get a negative result on the rapid test, though, you most likely don't have HIV (though false negatives are still possible).
Went to a Christian school. They had someone come in who was Christian & only had ever slept w/her spouse. Got it from him after he cheated. She mentioned how waiting didn’t always equate to safety. They still said we should wait, but at least they were honest about the risks.
THIS! People talk about “high risk behaviours” but you could be a virgin til marriage and catch it from a spouse you thought was monogamous. Or you could be totally chaste and be exposed during a sexual assult or needle prick accident.
My wife's youngest sister was a virgin when she met her husband. She ended up getting HPV from him as he wasn't a virgin but didn't know he had it. So waiting until marriage doesn't guarantee anything.
You see this a lot with the older generation and hepatitis. NONE of them were ever talking about their spouses cheating and just lived with it. There are so SOOOO many people in the boomer generation who have it and had no idea and its from their partners being unfaithful. Same eith aids
My father in law was diagnosed with HIV in the 80s. When I first met him (about 3.5 years ago) and found out, I asked if I could ask him questions. He was really excited that someone wanted to actually talk about it and not treat him like a leper. He is very excited about the breakthroughs for an HIV vaccination for others.
When I was in school in the 90's, they taught us that AIDS was purely something that homosexuals got, and even brought in a gay man with AIDS to talk to us about all the pills and stuff that both he and his partner had to take to stay alive. The idea was definitely to make us think twice about being gay, but all I could think about at the time was how touching it was that this man loved his husband so much that he was willing to risk getting AIDS to be with him, haha.
That's something I still hear. That it's a "gay man's disease". I still hear that it spontaneously started because gay sex. Like that isn't something that has existed in our species since before our species even existed. Sometimes they say god created it to punish gay men, others just seem to seriously think it just appeared from thin air or something. Didn't help that a certain president also said this...
I'm gay and I was a preteen/teen in the 90s, we were literally never taught that HIV was a gay disease. So I'm going to press X to doubt, I know that these things can be very location specific... but I also know that this channel's audience contains a lot of "then everybody clapped" type storytellers.
@@goawayleavemealone2880 Its definitely a location difference. I live in the south and people still preach that today 💀 Homophobia and aids go hand in hand in red states.
I remember the stigma... An adult who was doing a class lecture on AIDS in our school before the talk broke down crying before he was due for the lecture. Me being me at 14 years old ran up and gave him a hug - so many kids would not even want to be near me or touch me after that talk that he explained he had AIDS, what it meant for his future and how it was passed on. I'm still alive, I did not get AIDS and I made his day better because he knew that someone cared.
:( that’s sad, I hope that man is alright Tysm for doing that, you would’ve really brightened his day up and his struggle with aids One of the worst things about aids was how stigmatised people who got it were
@@goodmorning2386 I got picked on and treated like a disease, kids found it hilarious to mock me for years. Now I'm older, I really don't care any more - I realise it was their ignorance, their problem.
@@d-padqueen1103 that’s awful, and it was their ignorance I 100% agree with you Glad it doesn’t bother you anymore, it would’ve been nice if in schools they had taught people stuff like “btw, you won’t get aids by hugging someone”
@@goodmorning2386 That was the stigma back then - it's pretty much similar to how people are sceptical with covid vaccines today. They listened to made up stories people with no medical background spouted. I worked as a volunteer when I was younger with my mum who was a nurse, I may have been very different if she hadn't taught me so much about people when I was younger.
@@d-padqueen1103 true, I think when there’s a scary situation going on people read those made up stories and think they’re real The covid vaccine scepticalness is a good point too, like on people being misinformed It’s cool that your mom was a nurse! I definitely agree that would’ve shaped your view on aids and stuff, since you would’ve gotten the factual information
The clip where the lady goes, “well, I guess you’ll just have to be prepared to die” has been viral on so many social media sites 😂 it always makes me laugh, but it’s also so sad that people were really taught sex-ed this way
Most of my sex ed was just basic mechanics, but when I was in high school, they ONCE brought in a contractor (certainly a religious outfit) who just showed us slides of what various STDs looked like and told us the only way to avoid them was to be abstinent until marriage. The feedback from parents who heard about it afterwards made it a one time event...
One of my husband's coworkers was recently diagnosed with HIV, and my husband started to freak out because they routinely did coffee tastings out of the same cups. So I had to step in and reassure him that he most certainly hasn't contracted HIV from coffee. There is still so much stigma and misinformation out there, especially for people who were "educated" back in the day when HIV/AIDS had just begun to surface.
I completely get why someone would be afraid because of how poorly educated people are when it comes to HIV/AIDS. I was never educated on anything related to sex since I went to a Christian school. (Also I’ve done coffee tastings but we stopped sharing after covid) idk why shared in the first place.
I feel like there’s a lot better reasons to be concerned about drinking after another person.. lol maybe he won’t get HIV but he could get a ton of other things. I would think covid would’ve changed that practice but hopefully this will encourage him to not share drinks with people anymore!
Are you literally serious? Are you sure this wasn’t a flashback your husband had from 1989? I feel like your comment popped out of Sally Jessy Raphael and I’m very concerned for your husband.
When I was in my 20's and went to my doctor to get birth control pills, my doctor told me it was important to discuss past sexual history with the guy. I asked him, "Well, what if I'm not comfortable doing that?" He looked at me and said, "If you're not comfortable doing that, why are you having sex with him in the first place?" Really made me think.
You could imagine what my "sex Ed" was like in Christian school in the late '90's and early 2000's. 😐 My teacher got highly agitated when I asked if someone could get AIDS even if they waited until marriage, but their new spouse hadn't, and was infected. They always acted like marriage was some magic shield against disease. It didn't make sense to me, even then.
This! A lot of women died during the AIDS epidemic because of their husbands cheating on them with men or prostitutes of ether sex then they passed on the virus to their wife so no marriage is definitely not a magic shield 😅
It could actually be opposite of a shield, if you marry a closeted christian dude who may not have HIV when you get married but might pick it up anywhere along the way.
A classmates mom died when we were in third grade because her husband was an IV drug user. She had been a faithful and supportive wife. By the time I was in 8th grade, 10% of my small private school class had lost parents to AIDS.
My uncle contracted HIV in the 80s (luckily he is doing very well and it has not progressed to AIDS). Because of this I was educated about HIV/AIDS at a young age. I remember in my health class in the early 2000s having to correct my teacher when she said it was best to avoid all physical contact with someone with HIV/AIDS. When I told her I routinely hugged my uncle and gave/got a kiss on the cheek, she looked horrified! Sad that even a decade or so after this video, the stigma and misinformation was still so pervasive, even among educators.
I'm sorry to hear that, and that the stigma and misinformation is still persistent. I sincerly hope that your uncle will continue to stay well and that it won't progress. This is one of the things that makes me so confused about the US, it's like for some reason they refuse to update the information for certain things, even though it's harmful when they don't. Had you been where I live, the teacher wouldn't have said that, and nobody would have so much as batted an eye you two coming into contact with each other. I want to say when I was in school, we had our first sex ed in 5th grade so I would have been like 10 or 11, so around the year 2003-2004. Then again, one of our sex ed teachers we had later (8th grade I think) actually really talked smack on the US sex ed and how outdated and bad most of it was. I think she was actually from the US originally, so it was something she was very passionate about.
Wow that’s awesome that your uncle is doing well when the treatment back then wasn’t very good! My uncle also contracted it in the late 80’ early 90’s and died was very sad and was hush hush that he actually died of aids I can’t remember what the cover story was that he died of. Me being in high school and learning about it in school I put it together and asked my mom about it and she did confess to me but told me not to tell anyone.
I remember being in middle school in the late 1990's and making a health teacher angry when we were talking about AIDS because I asked why the doctors didn't look into gold and diamonds as a cure for AIDS since we were taught that you couldn't get AIDS once you were married. Made perfect sense to me, you wear a gold ring with a diamond on it when you get married, something in the metals must enter the bloodstream to fight AIDS.
I love how kids think, especially when adults spit out bullshit to them. This is amazing, totally something I would think too by watching Jimmy neutron lmao
These kinds of fear-mongering videos were also used for drugs, fire safety and littering. My brother and I both have anxiety disorders and this stuff DID NOT HELP!
I had legit trauma as a child about fires and my house burning down and they made it sound like it was a super common thing that happens every single day. I've actually been caught on fire at a wedding and let me tell you that stop drop and roll thing actually works and I remembered it! " Oxygen! Must smother" I shouted!!!
In sixty grade, circa 1970, I had an awesome "social hygiene" teacher. She gave us great information. She was straight, honest and answered all of our questions. Three years later in ninth grade, I was pleasantly surprised when she popped up again at my. junior highschool. By then, the class was known as sexual education. The lady's name was Mrs. Eilers. She was a travelling Sex Ed. teacher in my school district. Back then Sex Ed. was a week long class.
I sometimes wonder if you could have become rich by being a travelling sex-ed teacher since so many people can not or do not want to teach it. I wonder how the lady you mention looked back at it.
Haven't hit my 20 year school reunion yet, but already there are empty chairs. All of the ones I know of have involved a gun. And yet, sex is what we were taught to fear (or just pretend doesn't exist). I'm glad we have someone trying to fix part of the problem. Thank you, Mama Doctor Jones for your videos!
I'm not quite to 20 years yet, but I am thinking of the handful of deaths I have already heard about. I can think of one gun suicide, one or two car accidents, one cancer, and a few drug-related deaths. I've also heard of a few people staying sober after addiction, and that is very good news.
Not been 20 years (getting there very soon). Graduated with 100 in our class. I know 5 are empty.(I don't keep contact ... so it's probably more.) 2 drugs overdose. 3 suicides. ... so....we maybe need to teach some more mental illness/ health acceptance.
It's been 21 years since I graduated and we haven't lost any to aids that I know of. We've lost several to cancer and one to a car accident. And one that went to our district but graduated from a neighboring district died of an overdose. Really young like 21. I'm not sure if any have died from suicide or gun violence. That cancer though. 😭 I do believe the first one to die of cancer had bone cancer and it was like 2 years after we graduated. She was so young. The car accident happened only months after graduation and it was the valedictorian. So many dangers in this world and they had people thinking aids was the biggest threat. 🙄
Had to essentially teach a homeschool class for my child (b. 2000) because their sex Ed class consisted of “don’t have sex, it can kill you and you will go to hell”. This was supposed to be one of the best public schools in my state, too. I was furious. But also glad I had been taught the real science of sex ed back in the 1970’s.
By now it's creeping closer to 30, but yeah, still INSANELY recent Edit: oh wow, just saw the aids thing from early in the video. Uh, maybe they could get away with that scare tactic of classmates dying back in the early 80s, but by the 90s there were treatments, and condoms were known for prevention. And surely by the late 90s treatment had advanced enough that HIV was magnitudes better to deal with than it was in the late 80s (note, the first antiretroviral for HIV was approved in March of 1987 (AZT, which yes, I know wasn'tperfect and was extremely expensive, but it didn't take long for many others to follow, and later the same year condoms were approved to be officially sold as HIV prevention, meaning anything from the 90s had no excuse for at least making it clear that condoms, for freaks sake, condoms can prevent HIV altogether. I don't think chemoprophylaxis was a thing until WAY later, and the idea of HIV spread being essentially a non-risk if you've got an undetectable viral load for a certain amount of time, but again, holy freaking crap is the scare stuff overkill)
but we didn't know anything about AIDS in the 80s. Just notice the panic around covid and how also medicine evolved greatly, we still took years to get "most" of it ;)
The first one: I was literally drinking water when the woman said “Then I guess you’d better be willing to DIE!” I nearly spit my water out 😂 The second one wasn’t THAT bad. It was a decent explanation of HIV. The costumes were creepy but they clearly didn’t have the biggest budget.
Honestly, the message from the second video was way ahead of its time, the idea that someone is a bad person for having AIDS is still being perpetuated to this day by some people
MDJ, you said something here that really resonated with me when you talked about how HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence and how there are many treatments available. Several years ago, a friend of mine who is a gay man, went public with his own story about this and what happened to him. When you said that we shouldn't be afraid or ashamed to talk about it, he was the first person I thought of. His bravery may have saved countless lives. He told the story via a recorded interview with an LGBTQ website, it might have been Queerty, I don't remember. He had engaged in a same sex encounter one night, knew that the partner's status was positive, but they used a condom. Except that the partner removed the condom prior to penetration (there's a term for this but it's not coming to mind). My friend had no idea until he used the bathroom after this other guy was gone and saw/felt the evidence. He went into a panic. Knowing that antiretrovirals can significantly reduce the risk of post-exposure transmission, he researched the nearest hospital that carried PEP and immediately went there. He was denied the medication at first. And I mean outright DENIED as in "we don't offer that treatment" when he knew damn well they did. He put up the FIGHT OF HIS LIFE to receive the medication and had to go to the hospital administrator to obtain it. Had he not fought so hard, made such a scene, even if he didn't know this was available to him, he may have died. He was so courageous to tell that story so that other people know about these medications and their importance. Even if he felt like it made him look bad, he did it anyway. He's still around BTW.
Removing a condom is called stealthing, and is technically sexual assault/rape: a person who was stealthed consented to sex WITH a condom, not sex WITHOUT a condom.
It…it is though. You have to choose to be doing specific, risky behavior to get it. Only those born into it from their birth parents don’t have a choice-everyone else is either sharing things they shouldn’t and/or doing certain actions without proper protection.
@@R.M.3.14 It isn't because of the fact that, at the height of the epidemic, the government withheld information and neglected to tell the at-risk populations that they were at-risk. No one knew enough to know how to prevent it. Besides, people get AIDS from things besides unprotected sex too. Blood transfusions, used needles, blood contact, ect. No one chooses to contract a deadly disease, they just didn't have enough information to avoid it.
I dunno though… you could be raped by someone who carries the virus, or get accidentally pricked by a dirty needle, or be accidentally exposed to someone’s fluids (ie a nurse). Or you could be engaging in what what would ordinarily be low-risk behaviour like sex with your spouse but if they were cheating you could be exposed that way…
@@R.M.3.14 I’m sure if they knew they would’ve gotten aids from having sex with a specific person they wouldn’t have done it. It isn’t a choice to get aids. Safe sex and all of that should be educated more. There also people who get S/Ad and end up with the disease. It’s not a choice. Sex is a natural thing and a lot of young people aren’t educated enough abt the topic. So please don’t say it’s a choice when it isn’t people don’t just chose to get diseases and they shouldn’t be judged for having one. To anyone who has an std and reading this it isn’t your fault things happen and reach out to doctors for help and don’t feel ashamed life is not over. ❤ I would also like to add for people out there that juss because someone says they don’t have it doesn’t mean they don’t because sometimes people don’t know and don’t get tested regularly, and juss cause you are close with someone doesn’t mean they don’t have it either. Juss educating not trying to start an argument in the comments lol. Safe sex and getting tested are very important.
I'm a poly person who has had several partners and I feel like it's been in my community that people have started the push for others to start getting comfortable discussing whether their partner is clean or not. when you have multiple partners, you really have to be comfortable talking about things like that. I really feel like it's been there that I first started seeing monogamous communities being encouraged to discuss it as well
I'm hetero monogamous, and I've been having this conversation with new partners since at least 2010. More specifically, if the relationship seems like it has the potential of turning sexual, I insist that we both be tested first. I've always tried my best to frame this as "just safety protocol", but without fail, every one of my partners has pushed back. They usually get defensive and put me in the position of having to nurse their hurt feelings. An older gentleman I dated took it as me calling him a "dirty old man". At best they just try and ignore the subject altogether. But when I stand firm and they realize that they won't be getting into bed with me without that piece of paper, they put up and shut up. In the end we get to have a fun, open and worry free time. But god is it an ordeal getting there
@@cyn00172 huh. I never thought of it that way. But you're absolutely right! That's just the only terminology I've ever heard used for it. What would you recommend I use instead? And also thank you for bringing me this new perspective! My best friend is a person living with herpes and I would never want to hurt her feelings by making her feel like she were less than or dirty just because of a medical condition she has.
@@littlejourneyseverywhere: Good question! Maybe just (name of condition) positive or negative? This would keep it pretty neutral. Thank you for being open to constructive feedback!
@@cyn00172 Good idea! And of course! People should be open to discussion and reason as well as always bettering ourselves and how we interact and treat others.
This makes me realize how good my STI and AIDS prevention education was in the late 80s and early 90s. Let's hear it for urban public schools systems in the northeast of the US for getting something right.
Good for you. I was in the middle-atlantic in the 60s and the "sex Ed" was awful, mostly t concerned about STDs and it didn't mention condoms or contraception at all. Otherwise, it was a great school academically.
@@MamaDoctorJones LOVED IT! Lol the computer noises with your bangs as kid and the audio sound thing at the beginning had me rolling. 🤣 this was much better content than my guess of the red octopus being Dr. Octagon; the alien gynecologist and surgeon alias of Kool Keith's album: "Dr. Octagonecologyst " 🐙🐙
My mom’s cousin had contracted HIV through a blood transfusion that was infected with the virus (he had hemophilia) way back in the 80’s. It eventually became full blown AIDS and eventually took his life. I didn’t meet him ever but my mom said he was a very kind hearted man and it saddened me to know his mom had to watch him slowly die. No parent should have to do that.
This happened to a friend of mine. Got an infected blood transfusion when he was just a wee boy as had hemophilia. Got HIV, died 10 years ago. So sorry to hear he was not the only one
I used to know someone whose father died of HIV/AIDS acquired via blood transfusion. It’s so sad because a lot of his friends/family didn’t come to the funeral or memorial because of what he died of. Really sad. They thought he was “a liar” and bunch of other screwed up things
@@allisond.46 no, he wasn’t aware of the diagnosis until shortly before he passed. When he did pass, his wife thought he had betrayed her and the kids. Her parents were upset, they thought he was secretly gay. But it was from a blood transfusion. A lot of his family didn’t believe it. They do now, but too little too late yknow.
The moment, when she told everyone about her own school reunion and how people had genital diseases. I wonder, how that conversation went "How are you?" -"Yeah, not so good. I have some genital diseases. And how have you been?" "Same here." Edit: I guess I'll have nightmares from now on.
Wow. This makes me feel good about my sex education at my school in the Bible Belt, which occurred in health class ~1991 (though it certainly wasn't accepted as truth by many kids, because others had already "educated" them). It's so terrible how early misinformation became entrenched "facts" in the minds of many. 12ish years later as a therapist in a hospital, I had a 60 y.o. female patient who learned during the course of her hospitalization that she was HIV positive. It was likely due to a blood transfusion, which doesn't matter...I only to say that because there was such a stigma about HIV/AIDS and sex/"promiscuity" that she would not accept a referral for treatment...because her family would then know the diagnosis. 20 years on, I still think of her and hope that she did seek treatment.
I'm gonna be honest I've seen the "I guess you just have to be prepared to die" clip as a meme and I was totally unaware of where it came from and so when it played I experienced quite a confusing mix of laughing at the clip and horror at the state of sex ed in the 90s
I remember the "AIDS from kissing" question, and my parents had to take a health and safety course to be foster parents, that question was asked the instructor explained that for successful transmission you'd need open cuts/sores/incisions in the mouths of both parties and about a quart (or pint, this was in around 91, and I don't remember the exact number) of salvia for it to transmit. There was a big panic for foster parents thinking they were going to get kids with AIDS from the "crack babies" and (racial stereotype I'm not saying). I was a kid in the 80s and a teen in the 90s (class of 99), and this was what were told. Even when we got factual information, it would come with a caveat that was supposed to negate it so we wouldn't trust it.
I had sex-ed in grade 10 biology class in 84 in Canada. We practiced putting condoms on bananas, jelly on diaphragms, and saw graphic photos of herpes and other STIs. I remember them emphasising non-condom contraception and condoms together. They were (rightly) worried that girls would go on the pill and still catch STIs. Seeing these videos makes me realise how lucky we were! In the awesome 2020's, I have friends on PREP, which seems like a miracle drug for kicking sense into badly costumed WBCs🙂
Oh, you guys were so lucky! I was given a packet to take home and review with my mom. It was basically learning the names of body parts and the biology aspects. No mention whatsoever of contraceptives, STDs (other than that you were going to get one if you did it before marriage), consent, safe sex, NOTHING. Waiting until marriage was the expectation. Total joke.
I also did sex ed. in Canada in the late 80s (grade 5) and early 90s (grade 9). Even when my ULTRA Christian Phys. Ed./health teacher (she loved to tell us that the first time she kissed her husband was on her wedding day) taught us sex ed. in high school, she was thorough and non-judgmental, and never foisted her beliefs on us. There's no way in hell a video like this could have been shown in my school.
Lol! I'm also Canadian and I took a co-ed Family Management class, which was in the Home-Ec wing with cooking and sewing classrooms, in the early 90's. Our teacher had us sit in a large circle all around the fabric cutting tables so we could all discuss in class. She walked into class, one day that we had a lesson on fertilization and early gestation, and threw a spoonful of sugar across the tables and said, "This is the approximate volume of an average man's ejaculation!" We all laughed but it got our attention, lol! She was a great teacher
@@blahblahblah02 I think the roots of our nations probably have a lot to do with the development of sex education and overall views of sex in general. The US was founded primarily by puritans seeking refuge from persecution in England, where the Crown was also the head of the Church of England, which allowed things like divorce, which puritans rejected. Canada was founded on commerce, more exactly, the fur trade. Not so much of Canada’s colonization was religiously motivated and I think that may contribute to why Canada evolved to have less stigma about sex reflected in policy.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this video. I had 1990's American "abstinence education." It was so bad that I asked my mom NOT to sign the permission slip after 6th grade (I got to sit in the library and research basically any health topic I wanted, instead), but that means I got 3 years of this garbage first. I've learned a lot since then, but your video is correcting some things I *still* believed wrong.
Has anyone seen the Golden Girls episode where Rose had a potential HIV exposure? Man, that was ahead of its time. It tastefully busted SO many stereotypes that were heavily buzzing about at the time it was made
Oh memory unlocked!! I heard that “when you have sex you’re having sex with every person that person has had sex with and every person they had sex with” all over in school. You have sex once with the wrong person & you’ve had sex with the whole planet! And while that argument was based on biology (STIs) it turned into a spiritual argument. Because Biblically when you have sec you’re getting married (so I was taught based on Adam & Eve not having a wedding ceremony due to no other people). So if you had premarital sex you got “married” & then when you actually got married you were committing adultery. Fun times.
Let's not forget being compared to a piece of chewed up gum! Seriously, sex-ed at my fundamentalist high school was down right destructive. On the bright side, it was kind of hilarious listening to teachers try to talk about sex while trying desperately to avoid using the word sex.
@@rachelrentschler8015 I think mine said toll of tape not gum. That you leave a bit of your soul behind with each partner & that’s why you’re supposed to wait for the one. (Don’t know where that is mentioned in the Bible…)
Heyya Momma Dr Jones! As a guy who grew up with a 95% female friends group, a single nurse mother and now a 16 yr old sister I love your channel and make sure to keep up with your vids. Your calls to action on political dealings is inspiring and powerful. Keep kickin ass!!
You sound pretty awesome. Thank you for being an ally, and for choosing to educate yourself about issues that largely affect women. Our world needs more men like you.
The stigma was real even in the 2000s. When I was sexually assaulted, I was scared about getting tested because I was afraid someone would find out and I'd be judged.
I'm so truly sorry that you went through that hell. that's awful. I know so many people back then lived with extreme trauma and not getting medical treatment because they're afraid of something finding out.
This reminds me of my favourite history teacher who I learned about HIV/AIDS from who passed away during the 1st UK COVID Lockdown. There's a memorial tree for him in one of my local parks and I just shed a few tears for him watching this. Mr. Levison was well loved.
i stopped bothering asking my mom to sign papers to allow me to see sex ed videos in school after a while because of just how ridiculous they were. they didn’t even explain sex they just said “if you have sex you die.” and we had to write down our questions and they would only answer the “appropriate” ones (which didn’t include mine about why they didn’t mention protection)
The saddest part of this is a lot of schools showed this even early 2000s because of being heavily religious areas or lack of school funding. I was born in 1994 and I have literally seen/heard some of these things. Some were 'updated' videos but they all said the same things.
The updated videos I recall were things like "the a-z of sex" shown to teenagers at my secondary school who were certainly already having sex as there seemed to be a lot more teenage pregnancies in the 2000s. My school was supposedly "don-denominational" yet handed out bibles... oh and I was raised Catholic so haha
@@ange76prkr non-denominnational doesn't mean non religious, it means not associated with a particlar denomination of Christianity. I went to a non-denominational bible college.
I remember our sex ed class in junior high. A couple of high school students came to our class and gave very factual, blunt information. It was probably the most uncomfortable I've been, but it was a really great way to go about it. We were even shown (on a plastic model) how to put a condom on. The high schoolers got credit for teaching the class, and I still admire their bravery to this day. They normalized the information, and I never felt confused. We were able to write our questions on a piece of paper after each class and turn it in to be answered anonymously at the next class. There was a specific class that talked about HIV, and how it was ok to touch someone, hug someone, play with someone who had HIV. This was mid-90s, so we were encouraged not to share a drink or eating utensils. But we were also told that's just good practice anyway. 😊 I wish every school had a similar approach.
Where did you go to school, if you don't mind me asking? I went to a school in Jacksonville, Florida the mid-late 2000s and had the complete opposite experience.
My school did something similar, and the main reason was because it was a workaround to the abstinence-only sex-ed teachers were limited to, since it came from a student-led organization and wasn’t part of the official curriculum.
As a 90s kid I heard some of this in school, including the "you're not just having sex with your partner, you're having sex with everyone your partner's had sex with" line.
@@JlBUNROCK it was also a sketch on SNL. Emulating a commercial giving that message, one sees a string of men on the woman's side of the bed, a bunch of women and one man on the man's side, a questioning glance by her and he responded he'd been incarcerated.
I got so lucky. My school district got around the state board of education restrictions by allowing students to take off campus training to teach sex ed. I volunteered for the training myself. In it, I met my first person I'd ever met that was HIV positive. She was one of the trainers and did it specifically because her story was atypical in the nineties in that she was married, straight, non drug user whose husband had gotten HIV before they married but wasn't diagnosised until he became symptomatic years later since he didn't strike anyone as high risk.
When I was a kid in the mid 90s my parents had a friend. "Mr.David" he was a really good artist and really nice and i remember he was "sick" and eventually died. I was very young so i dont remember much about him but I just remember him positively. When i got older I talked to my mom about him one day and found out he died from complications from AIDS and that a lot of her friends and some family members would give my parents a hard time about "letting him around the kids" but my mom is awesome and would tell them stuff like "well hes not sleeping with them so theyre okay!" Its sad to think such kind people were shown such disrespect.
One of my best friends is a transgender man. Funny that once he legally got his gender updated on his ID he couldn't donate blood anymore because he is married to a man, but it was fine before that. I wonder what the rules would be if his husband was also a trans instead of cis, or for a trans lesbian couple. Homophobia all the way down is the likely answer.
The only reason why it can "be more likely in gay men" is because even with lube, anal tends to cause a lot of small little tears, even if it isn't enough for you to notice. Which can give more places for all STDs to get inside even if they pull out. Problem with that logic is that is assuming that isn't something straight cis couples do all the time...Which it is. The only ones I know that don't are almost all homophobes. Thus doing that, even if they're both straight and cis, makes the guy gay by association. Like those incels that think that cis men that have lots of multiple cis female partners are "gay" for various reasons. (If you can handle the stupidity, it's worth a laugh to see the various leaps in logic they make to come to this conclusion.)
that’s so dumb XD like they check all the blood for diseases before it gets donated, so if it’s healthy blood it’s all good I agree, 100% homophobia :( even to this modern day
Yeah that makes no sense to me. I don’t think that is a rule for blood donation in Canada. But in the USA, is it correct that you get paid for donating blood? We don’t here…..
@@downhomesunset you don't get paid for giving blood in the corner of the US I've grown up in. Blood donation organizations will sometimes give you small gift cards, towels, t-shirts, etc. I've also heard of getting money for donating plasma, though.
WHOA the bang lady had a series! You have to see the one on genital warts! We watched these with our lesbian gym teacher (92 ish so still in the closet) who was cool with us doing homework or sleeping in the class instead of watching it. She on the other hand watched the videos like a horror movie with popcorn and a Diet Pepsi! At the end of each class she would say, “well kids, it can’t get worse than that, til tomorrow!” Our test was one multiple choice one question basically if you can’t abstain, condoms are your friend!
I kind remember videos like that from school in the 90s but the thing with most educational videos is kids just mess about unless you have a teacher like that who are grounded in reality.
Thank you for mentioning how fear-based sex-ed makes it hard for people to get tested because that’s how I felt going for an STD test for the first time. I was so afraid of judgement and all I could see were those harrowing images of infections I’d seen in my sex-ed class.
I'm 27 and I still hear people my age use the word 'AIDS' as a synonym of dirty. As a person who has lost someone very dear to the illness, it's heartbreaking. But I can't say anything because I know my loved one was very afraid of the stigma, and would hate for me to tell others. I just hope younger generations realize all the stigma HIV still carries. It's one of those things that show that we're not over some of the prejudices we like to claim we're over.
I watched these in school except the baseball game one. We watched all kinds of religous stuff though. Most of it along the lines of "You just have to ready to die then" and "save yourself for marriage". I love how the guy playing the dad just keeps heavy sighing like he regrets even starting the conversation.
I graduated HS in 2004 I remember my Sophomore year we had to attend an abstinence only assembly where one of the characters was a giant dancing condom that said that Condoms don't prevent AIDS/HIV. Even then it was known that was a WILDLY inaccurate statement. I wanted to scream at that performance.
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing up the fact that this ridiculous practice of barring men who have sex with men from donating blood is still occurring. I'm in Canada, and it's the same thing. I'm AFAB and I get asked EVERY TIME I fill out the questionnaire if I've had sex with a man who has had sex with another man in the last 6 months. So not only does it bar the men, but anyone who has been in sexual contact WITH that man. It's utterly ridiculous.
You may be happy to hear that the rules are changing by the end of September at the latest! All donors will be asked if they have had sex with multiple and/or new partners in the last three months. If yes, only having anal sex with one or more will make them ineligible to donate until 3 months have passed. Otherwise, they can donate as long as they meet all other eligibility criteria. There is a page on the Canadian Blood Services website that discusses the upcoming criteria if you want to learn more.
It’s the same in Sweden. I always complain about it too. I know that the staff don’t set the rules but maybe there will be a difference if enough people complain.
Same in Australia too. I knew a gay guy who also had haemochromatosis (excess iron in the blood). The treatment is essentially regular blood donations. Except because he wasn't allowed to donate blood, they just dumped it. When blood banks are screaming out for more donors.
It would be so simple too, to switch it to the question "have you had unprotected sex in the last six months" which would cover EVERYONE without the discrimination. It's not as if hetero couples aren't capable of contracting HIV or other STIs so it would make FAR more sense
I came of age at the height of the AIDS scare and epidemic. I was traumatized then, I am retraumatized watching this and now I need to call my therapist...
As with most things health-related I’m grateful to be in Europe. My ‘90’s sex education was good and comprehensive, mainly thanks to a fantastic teacher who was extremely knowledgeable and non-judgemental.
So I have two different scenarios this reminded me of: 1. In 7th grade, my mom, who is an ARNP, came to my Catholic grade school on World AIDS day, but was not permitted to talk about how AIDS is transmitted through sex, she could only say, "bodily fluids" and so when one of my classmates asked about kissing, my mom had to say something like, "Not kissing, but things that might come after kissing for a while." The kid was really confused, and since he wasn't sitting that far from me, I just told him I would explain it later. 2. At orientation for my first year of teaching, after telling us about how little money we were going to be making, how much they were going to be taking out for retirement, and other stressful things, they then made us watch a blood borne pathogens safety video where they basically told us we could die, and how dangerous blood can be, so don't help that kindergartner with the bloody nose, don't touch them at all because you could get HIV and then AIDS and die, call the nurse and the custodians. Yes, you have to be careful, but it's not as life or death as the video made it out to be, and despite me knowing everything already, it was really stressful to watch after an already stressful morning.
I literally “had sex ed” talks like that in church youth group in 2003. And I distinctly remember being told that we could get HPV and die of cancer, but also that only people who were morally lacking would get the HPV vaccine. 🙄
I was living in Germany when the mass scare around AIDS started in the mid 80's. A friend of mine told me about AIDS. It wasn't until returning to the states in the late 80's that I first heard about it in sex ed in high school. The films and rhetoric was as you've shown here. It honestly didn't deter kids from engaging in sex because it was so ridiculous in the way it was described it came across as unbelievable.
Here in Italy, it worked quite well for my generation. We were fricking scared. The ads worked quite well for those of us who were in their early teens around 1990. Too bad that now people aren't scared anymore and don't protect themselves correctly.
The second video is so refreshing after the utter scare tactics of the first one I almost want to give that dad an award for the way he explained things with facts and kindness.
Can you address Raw Beauty Kristi’s video about hospitals doing pelvic/prostrate exams on unconscious patients when they go in for a surgery that is completely unrelated in order to train medical students! I was horrified that this was a thing, that medical professionals are fighting to keep it and medical students can be punished for speaking up or refusing! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ADDRESS THIS, IM DYING TO KNOW YOUR SIDE OF IT!
Wait, on unconscious patients? Presumably without consent? Huh... weird, and seems ethically, uh, dubious at best, and, well...a word that begins with r and rhymes with grape at worst. I'm also assuming you mean prostate exams (the closest male equivalent to a pelvic exam), rather than prostrate exams, as I've never heard of the latter in medical literature/terminology. I'm also curious about the underlying sourcing on that/if maybe consent forms are slipped in somewhere amongst all the other stuff you sign to get surgery. But still, that would more or less defeat the whole "informed" part of informed consent... Only thing I can say for certain is that every single surgery I've witnessed both at my current hospital and another nearby hospital where I shadowed a couple of surgeons for a bit has included exactly zero unrelated pelvic/prostate exams. In fact, such exams are never even performed without at least one witness of the same sex/gender of the person undergoing the exam. So, male physician would always have a female nurse at the bedside assisting for a pelvic exam (to be honest, the female physicians do as well, since they're often just easier to hand off swabs and such to the nurse rather than to try and handle it all yourself). And prostate/rectal exams likewise have an accompanying chaperone. It's honestly just good policy nowadays for literally any honest physician, as it protects them from false accusations and, since they're just honestly practicing medicine, doesn't actually hinder them at all (in fact, it often helps, as they have someone to hand swabs off to). Idk, it seems weird enough (especially given some of medical science's less than stellar history) to be theoretically plausible in certain, probably primarily isolated teaching hospitals. But it's also the sort of thing that nowadays I just couldn't imagine the medical community supporting, unless they've actually got some sort of data to back it up (i.e. a reduced morbidity/mortality associated with such exams before seemingly otherwise unrelated surgeries) Edit: just also wanted to add that there's also no real reason for it. There's TONS of legitimate reasons for pelvic exams, and any emergency room for freaks sake would have an abundance of them, let alone, say, a Labor/delivery ward. So why on earth would you do one on a healthy, normal patient in for an unrelated thing? Hell, if you want healthy controls, go to an OB/GYN office/clinic for routine PAP smears. If you want potentially unhealthy examples, go to any OB/GYN clinic/emergency room. Prostate exams I could see being a bit more difficult though, as there just isn't as much need for them nowadays with PSA testing. But again, I feel like there's ways around it that don't involve sedating a patient and doing it without consent. Hell, you could just ask. Sure, many people will say heck no, but you'd be surprised the number of people that would agree to a prostate exam for educational purposes if explained properly. Or hell, just pay college students for it. I bet for about $150 a piece, an assurance that they're helping train future physicians, and perhaps a free STD screen as well, you'd get TONS of college students lining up for it. Just post flyers all over the college, and bingo bango, you've got plenty of consenting patients.
@@ryanc473 Females are more common than males! There are a ton of articles about it and Kristi’s video has links to them. They bring in medical students during an operation and have them practice Pap smears and vaginal exams. So one woman could have many different gloved students in her vagina and never know about it! I didn’t even know this was possible until her video and the articles she attached. It’s absolutely outrageously unethical but a lot of doctors are fighting to keep it!
You need to see the bangs on Caitlin Doughty of “Ask A Mortician”-she has a very interesting channel devoted to normalizing death and throwing punches at the present North American Funeral industry. She has made me (and millions of others) less afraid of death and more aware of the harmful funerary practices. You two should do a collab-each side of the circle of life!
Thank you so much for educating the TH-cam community for people who are interested. I'm an aspiring OBGYN, so thank you for helping me and everyone in the way you educate. ❤️
no there will be empty chairs at my 20th reunion because of car accidents after graduation, cancer, and drug overdoses. I don't have not one person in my class that has HIV or even AIDS. I still am amazed that there are people my age that don't know what the PREP shot is or that there are shots to prevent the transfer of Aids. I graduated in '93 and this was really scary. Now I understand that if I did end up with someone I graduated with with HIV or AIDS they most likely didn't get it from having sex, but from sharing needles. I have been told that in the area I grew up in AIDS cases have been happening again and it's because the drug use has gotten worse. I actually met a lady from my town that had HIV and she caught it back in the 90s, she was older than me and sure enough it was because of needles, another person who has it was because of a blood transfusion that happened before testing. Between this shit and the videos about stranger danger and good touch bad touch, we were paranoid that a stranger in a white van where lurching around every corner. When in fact it was usually someone we knew and trusted that were predators.
i dont remember if i watched that particular video but I do remember in the early 2000s having to get an HIV/AIDS talk that basically amounted to the first video with "you'll die"
I'm a biologist and a biology teacher and last class i talked with my students about STDs and asked them to do a presentation debunking the most common misconception about STI and STDs, today one of rhe parents came to talk to me and complained about the assignment, keep in mind that the students are in high school (second year here in Brazil) 16 years is the average age, the mom said her daughter is too young for that such thing and subject, oh I can't wait to talk about the reproductive system and pass the assignment about intersex/transgender/cis people, the concession will be funny.
I honestly do not remember EVER talking about sexuality beyond what was written in the text book which was 30 years old. My biology class was EXTREMELY forgettable.
thank you for doing important work in the world and educating on crutial subjects:) wishing you good luck in fighting students' parents for informing them
Always amazes me when parents say "but my child is too young to learn this about sex/sexuality". Like... Okay, maybe they are 'too young' in that they aren't personally sexually active yet... That's the PERFECT time to learn - you want to learn the risks of driving drunk before you ever get out on the road. We don't wait for you to have a few beers and get behind the wheel to tell you why it's a bad idea. Why would parents want to do that with sex? No use teaching them once they're 'old enough' - by then they may be pregnant or have caught something!
Sex ed in 90s Ukraine scarred me for a long time. The ob-gyn said that parents loved only wanted kids and always resented/abused the ones from unplanned pregnancies. Since I always strongly felt I had no moral right to abortion without a VERY good reason and resolved to keep any unplanned pregnancy, I was mortified!
What I find interesting is there are a lot of stories of adoptees from russia and/or ukraine with major behavioral issues and I wonder if those children were from a situation like that. :-(
@@Kristinapedia That's not the point. Those kids familis had other issues than unwanted pregnancy. They often come from families that have intergenerational history of violence, neglect and substance abuse. Just bcs u didn't get initially excited finding out u r pregnant (6-8 wks) doesn't automatically mean u won't love the kid. Just like wanting and planning a pregnancy won't guarantee u will love the kid. My point, what she said was stupid, callous, thoughtless and professionally unethical (she was an ob-gyn).
I can’t even count the times I said to myself “that escalated quickly” while watching this 😅 Fun fact: I was a blood transfusion baby recipient in the timeframe that was identified as problematic. BUT I was not made aware of this, or the steps taken, when I was a child, to monitor my risk, until I was an adult 🤦🏻♀️
They really did try to scare people. I always thought I had AIDS as a kid. If I had a rash, a cold, anything, I was always asking my parents if it was AIDS. I grew up during the epidemic.
It is so good that we have medication now. Sadly my mother's older sister died from AIDS just a year before the medicine was found. But she participated in the testing of the drugs, and I like to think that she helped save a lot of people that way. The worst part is that she only got it because her husband didn't tell her that he was positive. And after she was diagnosed he left her and her young daughter who was left with no parents when my mother's sister died :(
i was a teenager in the 80’s when AIDS was just discovered. i remember watching the news when it was 1st broadcast! it was absolutely terrifying, people were scared to death because we didn’t know hardly anything yet, including how it was spread. ambulance’s wouldn’t transport people with AIDS; they hadn’t even separated HIV vs active AIDS. it certainly got everyone’s attention. i remember the health department having an assembly a couple years later when they had a little bit more info, it was nothing like this video tho!! there was a lot of questions, some she could answer, others she admitted she didn’t know yet. just wear a condom if you do have sex. looking back i guess i was lucky to get decent information for the time.
11:10 These poor kids keep asking that, and he keeps not answering. He's just going into more and more detail about how our bodies fight off colds, and hasn't once explained why that doesn't work for HIV.
Technically, your body *tries* to fight off HIV, but it’s simultaneously losing immune cells. It’s like fighting a horde of zombies that kill your front-line soldiers faster than you can replace them.
I'm sure they showed us that first video at my school. It was Christian school so they also made us sign a pledge to our parents to stay virgins until marriage. There was quite a lot of "condoms don't work and are basically worthless" in what sort of vaguely passed for sex ed.
Sex education in the 90s into the 2000s is at the same level as the DARE program: Scare the crap out of students with factually incorrect information and make them think absence only is the only way to go (as if married people wouldn’t benefit from comprehensive sexual education and drug addicts wouldn’t benefit from harm reduction strategies). Neither worked in my school.
I can confidently say that DARE worked 100% on me and we were _super_ enthusiastic about it. I nearly called the cops on my parents because I spotted my mom's birth control pills on the dresser and never touched any illicit substance, legal or illegal, until well into adulthood.
Because of DARE, I have the song Total Eclipse of the Heart memorized. There was a scriptless skit that was done every single year set to this song that equated all drugs, sex, alcohol, and STI's and then proceeded to say that they all fed into one another, and once you try any of them you're addicted, no one can help you, and you will die causing your friends and family horrible pain. 🤯 "Once upon a time I was falling in love, Now I'm only falling apart. There's nothing I can do, a Total Eclipse of the Heart."
@LeadTrumpet1 just to be clear, it's "abstinence-only" from the verb "to abstain" i.e., teach the kids they must abstain from all sexual activity until married to a spouse of the opposite sex, and don't give them any additional information. So they're still stumbling in the dark after the class is over.
I was child in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I remember sex ed videos a lot like these ones. It's really easy to see why our generation is so messed up. It's a wonder any of us are functioning adults at all.
I grew up going to the Unitarian Universalist Church and part of the Sunday School curriculum included human sexuality. The program evolved into the Our Whole Lives (OWL) classes which is very popular and more widespread these days. My kids took the very comprehensive, sixth grade course and often commented as they got older about feeling very knowledgeable and prepared. It's so important to prepare our children. I really appreciate the information that you share on your videos, I believe it makes a big difference.
I took the high school OWL class too! I wasn’t Unitarian Universalist, but my friend was, and I remember getting such a thrill from hearing grown up talking about sex in such a frank manner in a CHURCH. It was very exciting.
Wow. This really scratches my dark humor fix. We didn't have sex ed in my school in the 90s. We had "self-respect" class where we learned to fear everything fun.
In 1986 I had to have blood and plasma transfusion before my daughter was born. 2 pints of blood and plasma to be specific. Then a couple of years later my daughter had too be a stayer in hospital for a week. There was a little boy in her ward. He was .about 2 and he had aids. His parents didn't want anything to do with him and the nurses WARNED me he had HIV, I sat on his bed with my daughter and read books to both children. He was my daughters companion for her week stay in hospital. Nurses would come in and were shocked either I was sitting on his bed with my daughter or we were on her bed. I was horrified the nurses treated him like a leper. It disgusted me. Nothing happened to my daughter sitting on his bed. Nothing happened to ,me cuddling him. My daughter is 36 this year. I hated the fear mungering that it brought out of ignorant people. Especially health care workers. Oh I had a junior nurse when I was going to have my transfusion 1 day before my daughter was born saying to me " aren't you glad they screen for aids these days" well she got sacked after my report. I don't tolerate stupid behaviour at all.
The kissing thing unearthed a memory from the early 90s of a friend of my parents who was a nurse who was keeping up-to-date on AIDS research and I remember her saying, "You could drink a bathtub of infected saliva and not catch the virus." I don't know how accurate that is, but it was a very, very evocative mental image.
I was told that you'd have to drink 5 gallons of an infected person's saliva in order to have a chance of getting it via saliva. & the thought of drinking anyone's saliva, infected or not, still makes my stomach queasy, lol!
This reminds me too much of my public middle school sex ed class in my incredibly religious town in the mid-2000s. Even almost 2 decades later, I am still actively unlearning the misinformation and pushing away the shame from growing up in purity culture. Thank you for all you do.
I was a victim of CSA, and I remember sitting in our yearly "sex ed" seminar, crying scared that I was now diseased, and anyone entering into a consensual, loving relationship with me in the future would end up dead because of what happened to me. It's interesting how they took the 'damaged goods' philosophy of purity culture and began pushing it with science once religious shame wasn't working anymore. Even more interesting is how they managed to get public funding for it.
I remember doing a report on HIV/AIDS crisis for my health class. I remember learning about how a lot of the negative stigma and delay of actually doing something to help was because of homophobia. Gay people (as an umbrella term) were more likely to get the disease because they were less likely to use condoms and other safe sex products as they couldn't get pregnant. Because the vast majority of victims were gay, no one wanted to help them and misinformation was rampant. Few people wanted to admit that they had HIV because that was essentially the same as coming out. It was so intertwined with gay people that it became known as the "gay disease" People have looked back on how everything was handled and pretty much all agree that if people didn't let their internal biases get in the way, the crisis would've been a lot better. The crisis also worsened homophobia around the country because people now immediately associated "gay" with "diseased" The HIV/AIDS crisis most likely set LGBT rights back years and it still continues to effect the community today.
Other factors in the high number of gay people who contracted HIV include a higher transmission rate via anal intercourse than other forms of intercourse, as well as difficulty in marketing condoms towards mlm, as many men who were engaging in sex with other men didn't identify as gay or otherwise queer.
That was certainly the case in the UK. The government at the time refused to do anything until they realised straight people, including women, were getting it. The minister who had been pushing for quite some time against the PM, Maggie Thatcher, to get at least some sort of psa out conveniently left out that those straight people were drug users and prostitutes otherwise it would never have happened. Even then the leaflets did more to scare and panic than give helpful information.
Also, about half a million died due to the gross mishandling of the disease by the Reagan Admin. If you ever wondered why there seem to be more younger gay people-its because there literally are.
I remember in the late 90s and early 2000s it being the "gay"disease . it wasn't until I was 16 or so in2006 I learned it was indiscriminate with heterosexuals. I knew a bi guy who couldn't give blood in 2008 because he'd slept with guys in the past 10yrs. It's still a stigma
My goodness I am glad the film that they were showing in catholic school was not found by you. I was a little nervous about watching your video before I thought it might be the one I saw in the late 80's. The one that the church was making us watch was worse than any horror movie that I have ever watched including someone up on a cross for having AIDS. It was demented but I am glad this one is not being seen also.
It wasn't a Sex Ed class but when I was in year 6, we had a guest speaker come in and tell us that 10% of our class population (of about 30 kids) wouldn't even make it to our 10 year reunion, because they'd die in a car accident. What's sad, is that we did actually lose one of our number to a hit and run.
When my twins were little I was talking to a family member about how hard it was to donate my oversupply, and a family member who had kids in the 70s said to me "oh, just give it to your hospital's maternity ward, they all have milk banks." And another relative who had her kids in the 90s said "uh, what? All the milk banks were shut down in the AIDS panic as a transmission risk." I thought it was silly. And then covid hit and I heard about mothers being separated from their babies and prohibited from breastfeeding. I get it now. People fear what they don't know and we're lucky we learned quickly this time around and had resources to share information near instantaneously.
I was born in 89, and im so proud to say that I have pretty bad sensory issues, and hair cuts were always a massive issue for me, so I actually never had bangs🙌🙌 I had allll the anxiety, but no bangs! Thank God no bangs!🙌🙌🙌
I'm getting flashbacks to going to school in the early 2000s and having teachers give the most complicated explanations for what turned out to be simple concepts.
This was the reason I was so scared of intimacy for ages. 😩😐😑 I also grew up with an uncle who had aids and it really freaked me out. He’s still alive and well. He was one of the first people to receive the as he says, “magical cocktail”. He owns an art gallery and does a lot for his community. I’m glad I took the time to educate myself and ask my mum about it. She wasn’t happy with what they taught me. She has always worked in the healthcare system so she dealt with individuals with AIDS and knew the ins and outs of it all.
My father caught hepititis in the 70s from a blood transfusion. This contributed to him getting liver cancer and passing in the early 90s. I am so happy they have tests to check blood donations now.
Hi Mama Doctor Jones! As a PA-C I can honestly say you’re the doctor I wish I had. I’ve had some horrible experiences in seeking medical care! As a sexual assault survivor, pelvic exams are a struggle for me. Obviously I get through it because I know the importance, it’s just tough! On the contrary side, I see patients that struggle with this as well! I’d love it if you did a video discussing sexual assault, and your approach to working with these patients!
I would love a video on that as well. I'm also a sexual assault survivor and I have tons of difficulty with pap smears as well. I find them very traumatic
Thanks. I was a volunteer at the AIDS clinic at NIH in 1982. I didn't mention it at work even though someone from work was one of the patients. It was a challenging era. So many funerals . . . Were the two films much worse than other sex-education films of the era? [A real question since we still seem to do a terrible job of teaching children about sex.]
I remember learning about this in 5th grade and at the time I was reading the book “The Indian in the Cupboard” (problematic in and of itself, but this was the 90s and I didn’t know). In that book, the two main characters cut their palms open and tie the two wounds together to become “blood brothers” as a expression of friendship. I remember asking the teacher if doing that could give you AIDS. He was appalled when I explained it and thought that I had actually done that myself (I hadn’t). It all got back to my mom and she and I had a very serious but confusing discussion about why you shouldn’t intentionally bleed on your friends for fun.
up until the early 200s they still had the question about visiting random corn fields with strangers..... i remember the whole abstinence campaign back in the 90s and the horrifyingly inaccurate information tossed about as scare tactics.
I'm a Kiwi who was a teenager in the mid 80s, we were taught about hiv/aids, it was part of our sex education, we were taught that the use of condoms was the best way to lessen the chance of contracting the virus. We were never taught abstinence.
Oh, I had blocked this out! We watched this in 1997 health class, followed by a video about Ryan White, who got AIDS from a blood transfusion, so I was terrified of sex AND blood transfusions. :)
We actually had people come to our school who had the virus and were living pretty full lives. Sex ex wasn't a thing until health class senior year. We had to have our parents sign something back in elementary school, but I don't remember what we had to do. If we were to talk about HIV, AIDS, Syphilis and other sexually transmitted diseases, we would be better able to prevent them from being transmitted in the first place. Maybe if we knew in the 80's and 90's what we know now and talked about in a normal way, Freddy Mercury could have sought treatment sooner and might have lived longer.
I am... oh my God. This is....holy shit I am actually speechless. The sheer audacity of bangs lady to say the things she said. I don't know if I should laugh or cry?? I can't really help but to feel like doing both.
Little FACT. Princess Dianna helped educate against stigma around aids and peoples fear of AIDS and being around others with AIDS. There is a famous photo of her shaking hands with a man who has AIDS which helped educate people to be less fearful to those with it. She was an amazing advocate for those with AIDS around the world.
Does anyone remember a video from 90’s sex Ed (more just puberty education) where a girl had gotten her period and brought an entire brown paper bag of pads to school, bumped into her crush, spilled the pads, and he helped her pick them up trying to not embarrass her?
For those of you who were at my school's ten year reunion and noticed my empty chair, you can rest assured that I didn't die of AIDS. I just didn't want to go. Don't count on me for the 20 year reunion either.
For me, it's been 50 years and not one reunion have I attended. And I live short blocks from the school, in the same old neighborhood.
Same
Didn't waste my time with either myself. Doubt I'd go to a 50th either. Pretty sure that I'll need to supervise paint drying or something equally worthwhile.
Everyone in my class hated our school, so no one came to 10 year reunion. Or maybe they all are dead, and I'm the last one...
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My dad died from AIDS in 1992 I was pretty young and didn't understand it so I stood up and told my 3rd grade class and the next day no one (other than my teacher) would come near me. It was awful so I spend then next several years telling people my dad had a cancer. The stigma around this virus was disgusting, I'm. So grateful we've come some far since there.
i am so sorry that they isolated you and treated you and your father that way. i hope you're doing well these days! i know your father would be proud of you and happy that you stood up for him. i's sad that you had to tell people a "better/more accepted" way of death. you know the truth and it's amazing that you told your story here. :)
That's so awful 😢
Oh I’m so sorry, that’s just horrible
So sorry that happened to you.
@@August16ify hes a true hero for being america's first gender neutral bathroom post mortem 🙏🙏🙏
I wrote a research paper on AIDS for my bachelor's. There is ONE documented case of HIV transmission through kissing, and that was when both partners had actively bleeding mouth sores. Saliva does not transmit HIV--ever. There are, however, rapid HIV tests that use saliva.
www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00048364.htm
Seems a waste to test saliva if it can’t be carried that way… or am I missing something? I’m not a medical professional, do you know why there are saliva tests?
@@meltingpointcreations1457 it’s just not transmissible via saliva
@@meltingpointcreations1457 If it's in your saliva, it's in your blood. It's just an easier, faster way to test if you're infected. Plus it means that people who are afraid of needles or blood are more likely to get tested.
@@meltingpointcreations1457 You can do a rapid saliva test at home. A lot of nonprofits like the Utah AIDS foundation (I live in Utah) can mail out a free rapid saliva test for people to take at home. The rapid test can't be used diagnostically, so if you get a positive test, you'll have to get your blood drawn and sent to a lab. If you get a negative result on the rapid test, though, you most likely don't have HIV (though false negatives are still possible).
Went to a Christian school. They had someone come in who was Christian & only had ever slept w/her spouse. Got it from him after he cheated. She mentioned how waiting didn’t always equate to safety. They still said we should wait, but at least they were honest about the risks.
THIS! People talk about “high risk behaviours” but you could be a virgin til marriage and catch it from a spouse you thought was monogamous. Or you could be totally chaste and be exposed during a sexual assult or needle prick accident.
@@katjaanjuli the latter is how my best friend's aunt contracted it. She was a nurse and was accidentally pricked by a needle with HIV.
My wife's youngest sister was a virgin when she met her husband. She ended up getting HPV from him as he wasn't a virgin but didn't know he had it. So waiting until marriage doesn't guarantee anything.
THIS! This is a lot better than I hear other Christians state it.
(Especially because I'm Christian myself)
You see this a lot with the older generation and hepatitis. NONE of them were ever talking about their spouses cheating and just lived with it. There are so SOOOO many people in the boomer generation who have it and had no idea and its from their partners being unfaithful. Same eith aids
My father in law was diagnosed with HIV in the 80s. When I first met him (about 3.5 years ago) and found out, I asked if I could ask him questions. He was really excited that someone wanted to actually talk about it and not treat him like a leper. He is very excited about the breakthroughs for an HIV vaccination for others.
awww thats really wholesome, hope he's doing alright!
He got diagnosed in the 80s and he’s still alive? That’s impressive.
@@allisond.46umm, there's really good medication and you don't automatically die from HIV😂
@@Kloetenhenne That medication wasn't available in the 80s, honey. Remember Freddie Mercury? He contracted HIV in 1982 and died in 1991.
@@fabplays6559 no, it wasn't, "honey". But fortunately people are different. And HIV for sure was not Mercury's only issue.
When I was in school in the 90's, they taught us that AIDS was purely something that homosexuals got, and even brought in a gay man with AIDS to talk to us about all the pills and stuff that both he and his partner had to take to stay alive. The idea was definitely to make us think twice about being gay, but all I could think about at the time was how touching it was that this man loved his husband so much that he was willing to risk getting AIDS to be with him, haha.
That's something I still hear. That it's a "gay man's disease". I still hear that it spontaneously started because gay sex. Like that isn't something that has existed in our species since before our species even existed. Sometimes they say god created it to punish gay men, others just seem to seriously think it just appeared from thin air or something. Didn't help that a certain president also said this...
That story is so cute
That’s so sweet honestly 😭💖
I'm gay and I was a preteen/teen in the 90s, we were literally never taught that HIV was a gay disease. So I'm going to press X to doubt, I know that these things can be very location specific... but I also know that this channel's audience contains a lot of "then everybody clapped" type storytellers.
@@goawayleavemealone2880 Its definitely a location difference. I live in the south and people still preach that today 💀 Homophobia and aids go hand in hand in red states.
I remember the stigma...
An adult who was doing a class lecture on AIDS in our school before the talk broke down crying before he was due for the lecture. Me being me at 14 years old ran up and gave him a hug - so many kids would not even want to be near me or touch me after that talk that he explained he had AIDS, what it meant for his future and how it was passed on. I'm still alive, I did not get AIDS and I made his day better because he knew that someone cared.
:( that’s sad, I hope that man is alright
Tysm for doing that, you would’ve really brightened his day up and his struggle with aids
One of the worst things about aids was how stigmatised people who got it were
@@goodmorning2386 I got picked on and treated like a disease, kids found it hilarious to mock me for years. Now I'm older, I really don't care any more - I realise it was their ignorance, their problem.
@@d-padqueen1103 that’s awful, and it was their ignorance I 100% agree with you
Glad it doesn’t bother you anymore, it would’ve been nice if in schools they had taught people stuff like “btw, you won’t get aids by hugging someone”
@@goodmorning2386 That was the stigma back then - it's pretty much similar to how people are sceptical with covid vaccines today. They listened to made up stories people with no medical background spouted. I worked as a volunteer when I was younger with my mum who was a nurse, I may have been very different if she hadn't taught me so much about people when I was younger.
@@d-padqueen1103 true, I think when there’s a scary situation going on people read those made up stories and think they’re real
The covid vaccine scepticalness is a good point too, like on people being misinformed
It’s cool that your mom was a nurse! I definitely agree that would’ve shaped your view on aids and stuff, since you would’ve gotten the factual information
The clip where the lady goes, “well, I guess you’ll just have to be prepared to die” has been viral on so many social media sites 😂 it always makes me laugh, but it’s also so sad that people were really taught sex-ed this way
I always assumed it was edited 😂
Most of my sex ed was just basic mechanics, but when I was in high school, they ONCE brought in a contractor (certainly a religious outfit) who just showed us slides of what various STDs looked like and told us the only way to avoid them was to be abstinent until marriage. The feedback from parents who heard about it afterwards made it a one time event...
It has become such a meme lol
I've seen it on so many compilations lmao. which is fair, it's completely absurd.
If pre-marital sex was that deadly, humans would have gone extinct by now.
One of my husband's coworkers was recently diagnosed with HIV, and my husband started to freak out because they routinely did coffee tastings out of the same cups. So I had to step in and reassure him that he most certainly hasn't contracted HIV from coffee. There is still so much stigma and misinformation out there, especially for people who were "educated" back in the day when HIV/AIDS had just begun to surface.
WOW! He really thought that he could get HIV?
I completely get why someone would be afraid because of how poorly educated people are when it comes to HIV/AIDS. I was never educated on anything related to sex since I went to a Christian school. (Also I’ve done coffee tastings but we stopped sharing after covid) idk why shared in the first place.
I feel like there’s a lot better reasons to be concerned about drinking after another person.. lol maybe he won’t get HIV but he could get a ton of other things. I would think covid would’ve changed that practice but hopefully this will encourage him to not share drinks with people anymore!
People used to think you could get HIV from swimming in a pool with an infected person.
Are you literally serious? Are you sure this wasn’t a flashback your husband had from 1989? I feel like your comment popped out of Sally Jessy Raphael and I’m very concerned for your husband.
When I was in my 20's and went to my doctor to get birth control pills, my doctor told me it was important to discuss past sexual history with the guy. I asked him, "Well, what if I'm not comfortable doing that?" He looked at me and said, "If you're not comfortable doing that, why are you having sex with him in the first place?" Really made me think.
You could imagine what my "sex Ed" was like in Christian school in the late '90's and early 2000's. 😐 My teacher got highly agitated when I asked if someone could get AIDS even if they waited until marriage, but their new spouse hadn't, and was infected. They always acted like marriage was some magic shield against disease. It didn't make sense to me, even then.
I went to a Catholic middle school. We were taught abstinence.
This! A lot of women died during the AIDS epidemic because of their husbands cheating on them with men or prostitutes of ether sex then they passed on the virus to their wife so no marriage is definitely not a magic shield 😅
MDJ did a video on a christian sex ed video. It's funny and sad at the same time.
It could actually be opposite of a shield, if you marry a closeted christian dude who may not have HIV when you get married but might pick it up anywhere along the way.
A classmates mom died when we were in third grade because her husband was an IV drug user. She had been a faithful and supportive wife. By the time I was in 8th grade, 10% of my small private school class had lost parents to AIDS.
My uncle contracted HIV in the 80s (luckily he is doing very well and it has not progressed to AIDS). Because of this I was educated about HIV/AIDS at a young age. I remember in my health class in the early 2000s having to correct my teacher when she said it was best to avoid all physical contact with someone with HIV/AIDS. When I told her I routinely hugged my uncle and gave/got a kiss on the cheek, she looked horrified! Sad that even a decade or so after this video, the stigma and misinformation was still so pervasive, even among educators.
I can only imagine the look on everyone’s faces when you said that. A mix of horror and disgust.
I'm sorry to hear that, and that the stigma and misinformation is still persistent. I sincerly hope that your uncle will continue to stay well and that it won't progress.
This is one of the things that makes me so confused about the US, it's like for some reason they refuse to update the information for certain things, even though it's harmful when they don't.
Had you been where I live, the teacher wouldn't have said that, and nobody would have so much as batted an eye you two coming into contact with each other. I want to say when I was in school, we had our first sex ed in 5th grade so I would have been like 10 or 11, so around the year 2003-2004.
Then again, one of our sex ed teachers we had later (8th grade I think) actually really talked smack on the US sex ed and how outdated and bad most of it was. I think she was actually from the US originally, so it was something she was very passionate about.
I'm really glad your Uncle is doing well, and good for you for correcting your teacher! It really is horrific how stigmatized it became and still is.
@@lina9535 Where are you from?
Wow that’s awesome that your uncle is doing well when the treatment back then wasn’t very good! My uncle also contracted it in the late 80’ early 90’s and died was very sad and was hush hush that he actually died of aids I can’t remember what the cover story was that he died of. Me being in high school and learning about it in school I put it together and asked my mom about it and she did confess to me but told me not to tell anyone.
I remember being in middle school in the late 1990's and making a health teacher angry when we were talking about AIDS because I asked why the doctors didn't look into gold and diamonds as a cure for AIDS since we were taught that you couldn't get AIDS once you were married. Made perfect sense to me, you wear a gold ring with a diamond on it when you get married, something in the metals must enter the bloodstream to fight AIDS.
That’s a good one!
I love how kids think, especially when adults spit out bullshit to them. This is amazing, totally something I would think too by watching Jimmy neutron lmao
Kids can be such unintentional geniuses. I love it
"We found the cure for AIDS! You just have to inject yourself with all your cash!"
I mean that is just common sense
These kinds of fear-mongering videos were also used for drugs, fire safety and littering. My brother and I both have anxiety disorders and this stuff DID NOT HELP!
I just wrote a post about how they produced a genuine phobia in me as a teenager! I hear you guys.
I had legit trauma as a child about fires and my house burning down and they made it sound like it was a super common thing that happens every single day. I've actually been caught on fire at a wedding and let me tell you that stop drop and roll thing actually works and I remembered it! " Oxygen! Must smother" I shouted!!!
In sixty grade, circa 1970, I had an awesome "social hygiene" teacher. She gave us great information. She was straight, honest and answered all of our questions. Three years later in ninth grade, I was pleasantly surprised when she popped up again at my. junior highschool. By then, the class was known as sexual education. The lady's name was Mrs. Eilers. She was a travelling Sex Ed. teacher in my school district. Back then Sex Ed. was a week long class.
I sometimes wonder if you could have become rich by being a travelling sex-ed teacher since so many people can not or do not want to teach it. I wonder how the lady you mention looked back at it.
Haven't hit my 20 year school reunion yet, but already there are empty chairs. All of the ones I know of have involved a gun. And yet, sex is what we were taught to fear (or just pretend doesn't exist). I'm glad we have someone trying to fix part of the problem. Thank you, Mama Doctor Jones for your videos!
The other fairly common cause of death among young adults is drug overdoses. But yeah, you have a point.
I'm not quite to 20 years yet, but I am thinking of the handful of deaths I have already heard about. I can think of one gun suicide, one or two car accidents, one cancer, and a few drug-related deaths. I've also heard of a few people staying sober after addiction, and that is very good news.
Not been 20 years (getting there very soon). Graduated with 100 in our class. I know 5 are empty.(I don't keep contact ... so it's probably more.) 2 drugs overdose. 3 suicides.
... so....we maybe need to teach some more mental illness/ health acceptance.
@@eacorpe88 A. That's a small graduating class, and B. My health class did have a mental health unit, but I thought it was poorly done.
It's been 21 years since I graduated and we haven't lost any to aids that I know of. We've lost several to cancer and one to a car accident. And one that went to our district but graduated from a neighboring district died of an overdose. Really young like 21. I'm not sure if any have died from suicide or gun violence. That cancer though. 😭 I do believe the first one to die of cancer had bone cancer and it was like 2 years after we graduated. She was so young. The car accident happened only months after graduation and it was the valedictorian. So many dangers in this world and they had people thinking aids was the biggest threat. 🙄
Had to essentially teach a homeschool class for my child (b. 2000) because their sex Ed class consisted of “don’t have sex, it can kill you and you will go to hell”. This was supposed to be one of the best public schools in my state, too. I was furious. But also glad I had been taught the real science of sex ed back in the 1970’s.
Wow…seriously? I’d confront that teacher & school for sure! How about just teaching the morals of sex before marriage? Goes a lot further… 😮😮😮
What state??
AND THIS WAS ONLY 20-30 YEARS AGO, let’s NOT forget
They showed it in my class 12 years ago… T.T
By now it's creeping closer to 30, but yeah, still INSANELY recent
Edit: oh wow, just saw the aids thing from early in the video. Uh, maybe they could get away with that scare tactic of classmates dying back in the early 80s, but by the 90s there were treatments, and condoms were known for prevention. And surely by the late 90s treatment had advanced enough that HIV was magnitudes better to deal with than it was in the late 80s (note, the first antiretroviral for HIV was approved in March of 1987 (AZT, which yes, I know wasn'tperfect and was extremely expensive, but it didn't take long for many others to follow, and later the same year condoms were approved to be officially sold as HIV prevention, meaning anything from the 90s had no excuse for at least making it clear that condoms, for freaks sake, condoms can prevent HIV altogether. I don't think chemoprophylaxis was a thing until WAY later, and the idea of HIV spread being essentially a non-risk if you've got an undetectable viral load for a certain amount of time, but again, holy freaking crap is the scare stuff overkill)
@@kapitan762x54R it was still shown in schools as recent as 10 years ago, shockingly
Still new misinformation being produced today. What's your point?
but we didn't know anything about AIDS in the 80s. Just notice the panic around covid and how also medicine evolved greatly, we still took years to get "most" of it ;)
The first one: I was literally drinking water when the woman said “Then I guess you’d better be willing to DIE!” I nearly spit my water out 😂
The second one wasn’t THAT bad. It was a decent explanation of HIV. The costumes were creepy but they clearly didn’t have the biggest budget.
Honestly, the message from the second video was way ahead of its time, the idea that someone is a bad person for having AIDS is still being perpetuated to this day by some people
MDJ, you said something here that really resonated with me when you talked about how HIV/AIDS is no longer a death sentence and how there are many treatments available.
Several years ago, a friend of mine who is a gay man, went public with his own story about this and what happened to him. When you said that we shouldn't be afraid or ashamed to talk about it, he was the first person I thought of. His bravery may have saved countless lives.
He told the story via a recorded interview with an LGBTQ website, it might have been Queerty, I don't remember. He had engaged in a same sex encounter one night, knew that the partner's status was positive, but they used a condom. Except that the partner removed the condom prior to penetration (there's a term for this but it's not coming to mind). My friend had no idea until he used the bathroom after this other guy was gone and saw/felt the evidence. He went into a panic.
Knowing that antiretrovirals can significantly reduce the risk of post-exposure transmission, he researched the nearest hospital that carried PEP and immediately went there.
He was denied the medication at first. And I mean outright DENIED as in "we don't offer that treatment" when he knew damn well they did. He put up the FIGHT OF HIS LIFE to receive the medication and had to go to the hospital administrator to obtain it.
Had he not fought so hard, made such a scene, even if he didn't know this was available to him, he may have died. He was so courageous to tell that story so that other people know about these medications and their importance. Even if he felt like it made him look bad, he did it anyway.
He's still around BTW.
Removing a condom is called stealthing, and is technically sexual assault/rape: a person who was stealthed consented to sex WITH a condom, not sex WITHOUT a condom.
The term you are looking for is "stealthing".
What a brave man! Say hello and give him some well wishes from a Canadian who cares…….
Wow, that guy really did him dirty... and that hospital... that must have been one hellish day.
That is just... awful and ruthless wtf
I laughed out loud at 6:14 when Dr. Jones said "But once you get married, your relationship gets blessed and HIV can't transmit anymore."🤣
My history teacher once told my class that AIDs was a, quote ,"choice virus". I've never wanted to walk out of a classroom more.
“Choice virus”. Does she think people WANT to have AIDS?
It…it is though. You have to choose to be doing specific, risky behavior to get it. Only those born into it from their birth parents don’t have a choice-everyone else is either sharing things they shouldn’t and/or doing certain actions without proper protection.
@@R.M.3.14 It isn't because of the fact that, at the height of the epidemic, the government withheld information and neglected to tell the at-risk populations that they were at-risk. No one knew enough to know how to prevent it. Besides, people get AIDS from things besides unprotected sex too. Blood transfusions, used needles, blood contact, ect. No one chooses to contract a deadly disease, they just didn't have enough information to avoid it.
I dunno though… you could be raped by someone who carries the virus, or get accidentally pricked by a dirty needle, or be accidentally exposed to someone’s fluids (ie a nurse). Or you could be engaging in what what would ordinarily be low-risk behaviour like sex with your spouse but if they were cheating you could be exposed that way…
@@R.M.3.14 I’m sure if they knew they would’ve gotten aids from having sex with a specific person they wouldn’t have done it. It isn’t a choice to get aids. Safe sex and all of that should be educated more. There also people who get S/Ad and end up with the disease. It’s not a choice. Sex is a natural thing and a lot of young people aren’t educated enough abt the topic. So please don’t say it’s a choice when it isn’t people don’t just chose to get diseases and they shouldn’t be judged for having one. To anyone who has an std and reading this it isn’t your fault things happen and reach out to doctors for help and don’t feel ashamed life is not over. ❤ I would also like to add for people out there that juss because someone says they don’t have it doesn’t mean they don’t because sometimes people don’t know and don’t get tested regularly, and juss cause you are close with someone doesn’t mean they don’t have it either. Juss educating not trying to start an argument in the comments lol. Safe sex and getting tested are very important.
I'm a poly person who has had several partners and I feel like it's been in my community that people have started the push for others to start getting comfortable discussing whether their partner is clean or not. when you have multiple partners, you really have to be comfortable talking about things like that. I really feel like it's been there that I first started seeing monogamous communities being encouraged to discuss it as well
I'm hetero monogamous, and I've been having this conversation with new partners since at least 2010.
More specifically, if the relationship seems like it has the potential of turning sexual, I insist that we both be tested first.
I've always tried my best to frame this as "just safety protocol", but without fail, every one of my partners has pushed back.
They usually get defensive and put me in the position of having to nurse their hurt feelings.
An older gentleman I dated took it as me calling him a "dirty old man".
At best they just try and ignore the subject altogether.
But when I stand firm and they realize that they won't be getting into bed with me without that piece of paper, they put up and shut up.
In the end we get to have a fun, open and worry free time.
But god is it an ordeal getting there
Please consider using terminology other than clean. I'm not the word police, but it implies that people living with HIV, herpes, etc are dirty.
@@cyn00172 huh. I never thought of it that way. But you're absolutely right! That's just the only terminology I've ever heard used for it. What would you recommend I use instead? And also thank you for bringing me this new perspective! My best friend is a person living with herpes and I would never want to hurt her feelings by making her feel like she were less than or dirty just because of a medical condition she has.
@@littlejourneyseverywhere: Good question! Maybe just (name of condition) positive or negative? This would keep it pretty neutral. Thank you for being open to constructive feedback!
@@cyn00172 Good idea! And of course! People should be open to discussion and reason as well as always bettering ourselves and how we interact and treat others.
This makes me realize how good my STI and AIDS prevention education was in the late 80s and early 90s. Let's hear it for urban public schools systems in the northeast of the US for getting something right.
I'm thinking the same thing.
Good for you. I was in the middle-atlantic in the 60s and the "sex Ed" was awful, mostly t concerned about STDs and it didn't mention condoms or contraception at all. Otherwise, it was a great school academically.
The editing had me dying. 12/10 to the editor from leaving me in shambles and laughing non stop 🤣
I edited this lol you’re welcome ☺️
@@MamaDoctorJones LOVED IT! Lol the computer noises with your bangs as kid and the audio sound thing at the beginning had me rolling. 🤣 this was much better content than my guess of the red octopus being Dr. Octagon; the alien gynecologist and surgeon alias of Kool Keith's album: "Dr. Octagonecologyst " 🐙🐙
You’ll be an empty chair at your reunion! An empty chair!
My mom’s cousin had contracted HIV through a blood transfusion that was infected with the virus (he had hemophilia) way back in the 80’s. It eventually became full blown AIDS and eventually took his life. I didn’t meet him ever but my mom said he was a very kind hearted man and it saddened me to know his mom had to watch him slowly die. No parent should have to do that.
This happened to a friend of mine. Got an infected blood transfusion when he was just a wee boy as had hemophilia. Got HIV, died 10 years ago. So sorry to hear he was not the only one
I used to know someone whose father died of HIV/AIDS acquired via blood transfusion. It’s so sad because a lot of his friends/family didn’t come to the funeral or memorial because of what he died of. Really sad. They thought he was “a liar” and bunch of other screwed up things
Did they think they could catch it from his corpse?
@@allisond.46 no, he wasn’t aware of the diagnosis until shortly before he passed. When he did pass, his wife thought he had betrayed her and the kids. Her parents were upset, they thought he was secretly gay. But it was from a blood transfusion. A lot of his family didn’t believe it. They do now, but too little too late yknow.
@@emmyjulianne6850 wow his "family" are horrible , they left him rot when he needed them the most
The moment, when she told everyone about her own school reunion and how people had genital diseases. I wonder, how that conversation went
"How are you?"
-"Yeah, not so good. I have some genital diseases. And how have you been?"
"Same here."
Edit: I guess I'll have nightmares from now on.
Wow. This makes me feel good about my sex education at my school in the Bible Belt, which occurred in health class ~1991 (though it certainly wasn't accepted as truth by many kids, because others had already "educated" them). It's so terrible how early misinformation became entrenched "facts" in the minds of many.
12ish years later as a therapist in a hospital, I had a 60 y.o. female patient who learned during the course of her hospitalization that she was HIV positive. It was likely due to a blood transfusion, which doesn't matter...I only to say that because there was such a stigma about HIV/AIDS and sex/"promiscuity" that she would not accept a referral for treatment...because her family would then know the diagnosis. 20 years on, I still think of her and hope that she did seek treatment.
I'm gonna be honest I've seen the "I guess you just have to be prepared to die" clip as a meme and I was totally unaware of where it came from and so when it played I experienced quite a confusing mix of laughing at the clip and horror at the state of sex ed in the 90s
I remember the "AIDS from kissing" question, and my parents had to take a health and safety course to be foster parents, that question was asked the instructor explained that for successful transmission you'd need open cuts/sores/incisions in the mouths of both parties and about a quart (or pint, this was in around 91, and I don't remember the exact number) of salvia for it to transmit.
There was a big panic for foster parents thinking they were going to get kids with AIDS from the "crack babies" and (racial stereotype I'm not saying).
I was a kid in the 80s and a teen in the 90s (class of 99), and this was what were told. Even when we got factual information, it would come with a caveat that was supposed to negate it so we wouldn't trust it.
Hands up class of 99.
@@SarahBent '99 here as well, but we were at least told more than in that video. lol
I was class of 89 so 10 years before you but I remmeber a big "fear" was getting it from toilet seats.
@@Kristinapedia I guess since they debunked getting pregnant from one they had to blame something else on them.
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I had sex-ed in grade 10 biology class in 84 in Canada. We practiced putting condoms on bananas, jelly on diaphragms, and saw graphic photos of herpes and other STIs. I remember them emphasising non-condom contraception and condoms together. They were (rightly) worried that girls would go on the pill and still catch STIs. Seeing these videos makes me realise how lucky we were! In the awesome 2020's, I have friends on PREP, which seems like a miracle drug for kicking sense into badly costumed WBCs🙂
Oh, you guys were so lucky! I was given a packet to take home and review with my mom. It was basically learning the names of body parts and the biology aspects. No mention whatsoever of contraceptives, STDs (other than that you were going to get one if you did it before marriage), consent, safe sex, NOTHING. Waiting until marriage was the expectation. Total joke.
I also did sex ed. in Canada in the late 80s (grade 5) and early 90s (grade 9). Even when my ULTRA Christian Phys. Ed./health teacher (she loved to tell us that the first time she kissed her husband was on her wedding day) taught us sex ed. in high school, she was thorough and non-judgmental, and never foisted her beliefs on us. There's no way in hell a video like this could have been shown in my school.
Lol! I'm also Canadian and I took a co-ed Family Management class, which was in the Home-Ec wing with cooking and sewing classrooms, in the early 90's. Our teacher had us sit in a large circle all around the fabric cutting tables so we could all discuss in class. She walked into class, one day that we had a lesson on fertilization and early gestation, and threw a spoonful of sugar across the tables and said, "This is the approximate volume of an average man's ejaculation!" We all laughed but it got our attention, lol! She was a great teacher
So basically what I'm getting from this comment section is Canada has great sex-ed
@@blahblahblah02 I think the roots of our nations probably have a lot to do with the development of sex education and overall views of sex in general. The US was founded primarily by puritans seeking refuge from persecution in England, where the Crown was also the head of the Church of England, which allowed things like divorce, which puritans rejected. Canada was founded on commerce, more exactly, the fur trade. Not so much of Canada’s colonization was religiously motivated and I think that may contribute to why Canada evolved to have less stigma about sex reflected in policy.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing this video.
I had 1990's American "abstinence education." It was so bad that I asked my mom NOT to sign the permission slip after 6th grade (I got to sit in the library and research basically any health topic I wanted, instead), but that means I got 3 years of this garbage first. I've learned a lot since then, but your video is correcting some things I *still* believed wrong.
Has anyone seen the Golden Girls episode where Rose had a potential HIV exposure? Man, that was ahead of its time. It tastefully busted SO many stereotypes that were heavily buzzing about at the time it was made
Oh memory unlocked!! I heard that “when you have sex you’re having sex with every person that person has had sex with and every person they had sex with” all over in school. You have sex once with the wrong person & you’ve had sex with the whole planet! And while that argument was based on biology (STIs) it turned into a spiritual argument. Because Biblically when you have sec you’re getting married (so I was taught based on Adam & Eve not having a wedding ceremony due to no other people). So if you had premarital sex you got “married” & then when you actually got married you were committing adultery. Fun times.
Let's not forget being compared to a piece of chewed up gum! Seriously, sex-ed at my fundamentalist high school was down right destructive. On the bright side, it was kind of hilarious listening to teachers try to talk about sex while trying desperately to avoid using the word sex.
@@rachelrentschler8015 I think mine said toll of tape not gum. That you leave a bit of your soul behind with each partner & that’s why you’re supposed to wait for the one.
(Don’t know where that is mentioned in the Bible…)
I got very confused trying to read that first sentence.
The bit where she said "imagine you're getting into bed with everyone they've slept with" my first reaction was "don't threaten me with a good time"
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Heyya Momma Dr Jones! As a guy who grew up with a 95% female friends group, a single nurse mother and now a 16 yr old sister I love your channel and make sure to keep up with your vids.
Your calls to action on political dealings is inspiring and powerful.
Keep kickin ass!!
Boy power among girls! Or, girl power among boy! Haha, bless you for educating yourself
You sound pretty awesome. Thank you for being an ally, and for choosing to educate yourself about issues that largely affect women. Our world needs more men like you.
The stigma was real even in the 2000s. When I was sexually assaulted, I was scared about getting tested because I was afraid someone would find out and I'd be judged.
I'm so truly sorry that you went through that hell. that's awful. I know so many people back then lived with extreme trauma and not getting medical treatment because they're afraid of something finding out.
This reminds me of my favourite history teacher who I learned about HIV/AIDS from who passed away during the 1st UK COVID Lockdown. There's a memorial tree for him in one of my local parks and I just shed a few tears for him watching this. Mr. Levison was well loved.
i stopped bothering asking my mom to sign papers to allow me to see sex ed videos in school after a while because of just how ridiculous they were. they didn’t even explain sex they just said “if you have sex you die.” and we had to write down our questions and they would only answer the “appropriate” ones (which didn’t include mine about why they didn’t mention protection)
The saddest part of this is a lot of schools showed this even early 2000s because of being heavily religious areas or lack of school funding. I was born in 1994 and I have literally seen/heard some of these things. Some were 'updated' videos but they all said the same things.
Yikes!
The updated videos I recall were things like "the a-z of sex" shown to teenagers at my secondary school who were certainly already having sex as there seemed to be a lot more teenage pregnancies in the 2000s. My school was supposedly "don-denominational" yet handed out bibles... oh and I was raised Catholic so haha
@@ange76prkr non-denominnational doesn't mean non religious, it means not associated with a particlar denomination of Christianity. I went to a non-denominational bible college.
I too saw some of these. My city's schools were well known to be under funded.
I did not live in a heavily religious or under-funded area and I still saw this in the mid-late twenty-aughts!
I remember our sex ed class in junior high. A couple of high school students came to our class and gave very factual, blunt information. It was probably the most uncomfortable I've been, but it was a really great way to go about it. We were even shown (on a plastic model) how to put a condom on. The high schoolers got credit for teaching the class, and I still admire their bravery to this day. They normalized the information, and I never felt confused. We were able to write our questions on a piece of paper after each class and turn it in to be answered anonymously at the next class. There was a specific class that talked about HIV, and how it was ok to touch someone, hug someone, play with someone who had HIV. This was mid-90s, so we were encouraged not to share a drink or eating utensils. But we were also told that's just good practice anyway. 😊 I wish every school had a similar approach.
Where did you go to school, if you don't mind me asking? I went to a school in Jacksonville, Florida the mid-late 2000s and had the complete opposite experience.
My school did something similar, and the main reason was because it was a workaround to the abstinence-only sex-ed teachers were limited to, since it came from a student-led organization and wasn’t part of the official curriculum.
Yeah, I remember the not sharing drinks one.
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As a 90s kid I heard some of this in school, including the "you're not just having sex with your partner, you're having sex with everyone your partner's had sex with" line.
I remember that line too!
That's such a gay line omg
That was taught to us also!!!
My first gyno had a picture showing how many people you "slept with" with so many partners.
@@JlBUNROCK it was also a sketch on SNL. Emulating a commercial giving that message, one sees a string of men on the woman's side of the bed, a bunch of women and one man on the man's side, a questioning glance by her and he responded he'd been incarcerated.
I got so lucky. My school district got around the state board of education restrictions by allowing students to take off campus training to teach sex ed. I volunteered for the training myself. In it, I met my first person I'd ever met that was HIV positive. She was one of the trainers and did it specifically because her story was atypical in the nineties in that she was married, straight, non drug user whose husband had gotten HIV before they married but wasn't diagnosised until he became symptomatic years later since he didn't strike anyone as high risk.
When I was a kid in the mid 90s my parents had a friend. "Mr.David" he was a really good artist and really nice and i remember he was "sick" and eventually died. I was very young so i dont remember much about him but I just remember him positively.
When i got older I talked to my mom about him one day and found out he died from complications from AIDS and that a lot of her friends and some family members would give my parents a hard time about "letting him around the kids" but my mom is awesome and would tell them stuff like "well hes not sleeping with them so theyre okay!" Its sad to think such kind people were shown such disrespect.
One of my best friends is a transgender man. Funny that once he legally got his gender updated on his ID he couldn't donate blood anymore because he is married to a man, but it was fine before that. I wonder what the rules would be if his husband was also a trans instead of cis, or for a trans lesbian couple. Homophobia all the way down is the likely answer.
The only reason why it can "be more likely in gay men" is because even with lube, anal tends to cause a lot of small little tears, even if it isn't enough for you to notice. Which can give more places for all STDs to get inside even if they pull out. Problem with that logic is that is assuming that isn't something straight cis couples do all the time...Which it is. The only ones I know that don't are almost all homophobes. Thus doing that, even if they're both straight and cis, makes the guy gay by association. Like those incels that think that cis men that have lots of multiple cis female partners are "gay" for various reasons. (If you can handle the stupidity, it's worth a laugh to see the various leaps in logic they make to come to this conclusion.)
"Don't let him donate blood, he'll transmit the gay to everyone else!"
that’s so dumb XD like they check all the blood for diseases before it gets donated, so if it’s healthy blood it’s all good
I agree, 100% homophobia :( even to this modern day
Yeah that makes no sense to me. I don’t think that is a rule for blood donation in Canada. But in the USA, is it correct that you get paid for donating blood? We don’t here…..
@@downhomesunset you don't get paid for giving blood in the corner of the US I've grown up in. Blood donation organizations will sometimes give you small gift cards, towels, t-shirts, etc. I've also heard of getting money for donating plasma, though.
WHOA the bang lady had a series! You have to see the one on genital warts! We watched these with our lesbian gym teacher (92 ish so still in the closet) who was cool with us doing homework or sleeping in the class instead of watching it. She on the other hand watched the videos like a horror movie with popcorn and a Diet Pepsi! At the end of each class she would say, “well kids, it can’t get worse than that, til tomorrow!” Our test was one multiple choice one question basically if you can’t abstain, condoms are your friend!
I wanna see all the bang lady’s videos!! 😂
Your teacher sounds great 😂
I kind remember videos like that from school in the 90s but the thing with most educational videos is kids just mess about unless you have a teacher like that who are grounded in reality.
Still better than the video lol
Unfortunately condoms can't prevent catching genital warts/HPV
Thank you for mentioning how fear-based sex-ed makes it hard for people to get tested because that’s how I felt going for an STD test for the first time. I was so afraid of judgement and all I could see were those harrowing images of infections I’d seen in my sex-ed class.
I'm 27 and I still hear people my age use the word 'AIDS' as a synonym of dirty. As a person who has lost someone very dear to the illness, it's heartbreaking. But I can't say anything because I know my loved one was very afraid of the stigma, and would hate for me to tell others.
I just hope younger generations realize all the stigma HIV still carries. It's one of those things that show that we're not over some of the prejudices we like to claim we're over.
I watched these in school except the baseball game one. We watched all kinds of religous stuff though. Most of it along the lines of "You just have to ready to die then" and "save yourself for marriage". I love how the guy playing the dad just keeps heavy sighing like he regrets even starting the conversation.
I graduated HS in 2004 I remember my Sophomore year we had to attend an abstinence only assembly where one of the characters was a giant dancing condom that said that Condoms don't prevent AIDS/HIV. Even then it was known that was a WILDLY inaccurate statement. I wanted to scream at that performance.
If you have sex with someone inffected with AIDS and the condom gets breaks during the act( it happens a lot) YES you might get aids.
The using HIV and AIDS interchangeably always bothered me when they are different things.
Thank you SO MUCH for bringing up the fact that this ridiculous practice of barring men who have sex with men from donating blood is still occurring. I'm in Canada, and it's the same thing. I'm AFAB and I get asked EVERY TIME I fill out the questionnaire if I've had sex with a man who has had sex with another man in the last 6 months. So not only does it bar the men, but anyone who has been in sexual contact WITH that man. It's utterly ridiculous.
You may be happy to hear that the rules are changing by the end of September at the latest! All donors will be asked if they have had sex with multiple and/or new partners in the last three months. If yes, only having anal sex with one or more will make them ineligible to donate until 3 months have passed. Otherwise, they can donate as long as they meet all other eligibility criteria. There is a page on the Canadian Blood Services website that discusses the upcoming criteria if you want to learn more.
It's the same in the UK unfortunately, despite petitions from the LGBTQ+ community to change it.
It’s the same in Sweden. I always complain about it too. I know that the staff don’t set the rules but maybe there will be a difference if enough people complain.
Same in Australia too. I knew a gay guy who also had haemochromatosis (excess iron in the blood). The treatment is essentially regular blood donations. Except because he wasn't allowed to donate blood, they just dumped it. When blood banks are screaming out for more donors.
It would be so simple too, to switch it to the question "have you had unprotected sex in the last six months" which would cover EVERYONE without the discrimination. It's not as if hetero couples aren't capable of contracting HIV or other STIs so it would make FAR more sense
I came of age at the height of the AIDS scare and epidemic. I was traumatized then, I am retraumatized watching this and now I need to call my therapist...
As with most things health-related I’m grateful to be in Europe. My ‘90’s sex education was good and comprehensive, mainly thanks to a fantastic teacher who was extremely knowledgeable and non-judgemental.
So I have two different scenarios this reminded me of:
1. In 7th grade, my mom, who is an ARNP, came to my Catholic grade school on World AIDS day, but was not permitted to talk about how AIDS is transmitted through sex, she could only say, "bodily fluids" and so when one of my classmates asked about kissing, my mom had to say something like, "Not kissing, but things that might come after kissing for a while." The kid was really confused, and since he wasn't sitting that far from me, I just told him I would explain it later.
2. At orientation for my first year of teaching, after telling us about how little money we were going to be making, how much they were going to be taking out for retirement, and other stressful things, they then made us watch a blood borne pathogens safety video where they basically told us we could die, and how dangerous blood can be, so don't help that kindergartner with the bloody nose, don't touch them at all because you could get HIV and then AIDS and die, call the nurse and the custodians. Yes, you have to be careful, but it's not as life or death as the video made it out to be, and despite me knowing everything already, it was really stressful to watch after an already stressful morning.
I literally “had sex ed” talks like that in church youth group in 2003. And I distinctly remember being told that we could get HPV and die of cancer, but also that only people who were morally lacking would get the HPV vaccine. 🙄
There are different kinds of HPV and the vaccine only protects against two! Sex is not a good idea for you.
Imagine not getting the vaccine and finding yourself in an unconsentual situation 🤦♀️.
I was living in Germany when the mass scare around AIDS started in the mid 80's. A friend of mine told me about AIDS. It wasn't until returning to the states in the late 80's that I first heard about it in sex ed in high school. The films and rhetoric was as you've shown here. It honestly didn't deter kids from engaging in sex because it was so ridiculous in the way it was described it came across as unbelievable.
Here in Italy, it worked quite well for my generation. We were fricking scared. The ads worked quite well for those of us who were in their early teens around 1990. Too bad that now people aren't scared anymore and don't protect themselves correctly.
Yep. And now we have people driving around in their own cars, alone, with the windows up...wearing a face mask. 😐
So glad you mentioned the outdated nature of blood donation rules. Thanks for all you do!
The second video is so refreshing after the utter scare tactics of the first one I almost want to give that dad an award for the way he explained things with facts and kindness.
Can you address Raw Beauty Kristi’s video about hospitals doing pelvic/prostrate exams on unconscious patients when they go in for a surgery that is completely unrelated in order to train medical students! I was horrified that this was a thing, that medical professionals are fighting to keep it and medical students can be punished for speaking up or refusing!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ADDRESS THIS, IM DYING TO KNOW YOUR SIDE OF IT!
Wait, on unconscious patients? Presumably without consent? Huh... weird, and seems ethically, uh, dubious at best, and, well...a word that begins with r and rhymes with grape at worst. I'm also assuming you mean prostate exams (the closest male equivalent to a pelvic exam), rather than prostrate exams, as I've never heard of the latter in medical literature/terminology.
I'm also curious about the underlying sourcing on that/if maybe consent forms are slipped in somewhere amongst all the other stuff you sign to get surgery. But still, that would more or less defeat the whole "informed" part of informed consent...
Only thing I can say for certain is that every single surgery I've witnessed both at my current hospital and another nearby hospital where I shadowed a couple of surgeons for a bit has included exactly zero unrelated pelvic/prostate exams. In fact, such exams are never even performed without at least one witness of the same sex/gender of the person undergoing the exam. So, male physician would always have a female nurse at the bedside assisting for a pelvic exam (to be honest, the female physicians do as well, since they're often just easier to hand off swabs and such to the nurse rather than to try and handle it all yourself). And prostate/rectal exams likewise have an accompanying chaperone. It's honestly just good policy nowadays for literally any honest physician, as it protects them from false accusations and, since they're just honestly practicing medicine, doesn't actually hinder them at all (in fact, it often helps, as they have someone to hand swabs off to).
Idk, it seems weird enough (especially given some of medical science's less than stellar history) to be theoretically plausible in certain, probably primarily isolated teaching hospitals. But it's also the sort of thing that nowadays I just couldn't imagine the medical community supporting, unless they've actually got some sort of data to back it up (i.e. a reduced morbidity/mortality associated with such exams before seemingly otherwise unrelated surgeries)
Edit: just also wanted to add that there's also no real reason for it. There's TONS of legitimate reasons for pelvic exams, and any emergency room for freaks sake would have an abundance of them, let alone, say, a Labor/delivery ward. So why on earth would you do one on a healthy, normal patient in for an unrelated thing? Hell, if you want healthy controls, go to an OB/GYN office/clinic for routine PAP smears. If you want potentially unhealthy examples, go to any OB/GYN clinic/emergency room.
Prostate exams I could see being a bit more difficult though, as there just isn't as much need for them nowadays with PSA testing. But again, I feel like there's ways around it that don't involve sedating a patient and doing it without consent. Hell, you could just ask. Sure, many people will say heck no, but you'd be surprised the number of people that would agree to a prostate exam for educational purposes if explained properly. Or hell, just pay college students for it. I bet for about $150 a piece, an assurance that they're helping train future physicians, and perhaps a free STD screen as well, you'd get TONS of college students lining up for it. Just post flyers all over the college, and bingo bango, you've got plenty of consenting patients.
Would also like to see her watch & talk about it potentially
Well, that one is a bit iffy. If such an exam is needed and the paitent isn't awake, they may not have any other option.
@@ryanc473 Females are more common than males! There are a ton of articles about it and Kristi’s video has links to them. They bring in medical students during an operation and have them practice Pap smears and vaginal exams. So one woman could have many different gloved students in her vagina and never know about it! I didn’t even know this was possible until her video and the articles she attached. It’s absolutely outrageously unethical but a lot of doctors are fighting to keep it!
Yeah it was banned in France after a massive scandal just a few years ago. Some hospitals are still doing it though
You need to see the bangs on Caitlin Doughty of “Ask A Mortician”-she has a very interesting channel devoted to normalizing death and throwing punches at the present North American Funeral industry. She has made me (and millions of others) less afraid of death and more aware of the harmful funerary practices. You two should do a collab-each side of the circle of life!
Her books are very interesting as well! She even has one answering questions from children.
yay fellow deathling :)
Well hello deathlings!
Deathlings, in my obgyn? It’s more likely than you think!
But yeah, Kaitlin rocks her bangs.
Hello fellow deathling!
Thank you so much for educating the TH-cam community for people who are interested. I'm an aspiring OBGYN, so thank you for helping me and everyone in the way you educate. ❤️
It's a good noble field... With lots of openings... (sorry I just couldn't help myself😋)
@@hunnybadger442 lol :P
no there will be empty chairs at my 20th reunion because of car accidents after graduation, cancer, and drug overdoses. I don't have not one person in my class that has HIV or even AIDS. I still am amazed that there are people my age that don't know what the PREP shot is or that there are shots to prevent the transfer of Aids. I graduated in '93 and this was really scary. Now I understand that if I did end up with someone I graduated with with HIV or AIDS they most likely didn't get it from having sex, but from sharing needles. I have been told that in the area I grew up in AIDS cases have been happening again and it's because the drug use has gotten worse. I actually met a lady from my town that had HIV and she caught it back in the 90s, she was older than me and sure enough it was because of needles, another person who has it was because of a blood transfusion that happened before testing. Between this shit and the videos about stranger danger and good touch bad touch, we were paranoid that a stranger in a white van where lurching around every corner. When in fact it was usually someone we knew and trusted that were predators.
@@hunnybadger442 You're sick! LOL 😫 🤣🤣🤣
Just don't forget there's more to it then STDs and babies.
I first remember learning about HIV and AIDS in a Bill Nye episode -- handled so much better!
i dont remember if i watched that particular video but I do remember in the early 2000s having to get an HIV/AIDS talk that basically amounted to the first video with "you'll die"
I'm a biologist and a biology teacher and last class i talked with my students about STDs and asked them to do a presentation debunking the most common misconception about STI and STDs, today one of rhe parents came to talk to me and complained about the assignment, keep in mind that the students are in high school (second year here in Brazil) 16 years is the average age, the mom said her daughter is too young for that such thing and subject, oh I can't wait to talk about the reproductive system and pass the assignment about intersex/transgender/cis people, the concession will be funny.
I honestly do not remember EVER talking about sexuality beyond what was written in the text book which was 30 years old. My biology class was EXTREMELY forgettable.
Thank you for doing an assignment on intersex/transgender/cis
thank you for doing important work in the world and educating on crutial subjects:) wishing you good luck in fighting students' parents for informing them
Always amazes me when parents say "but my child is too young to learn this about sex/sexuality". Like... Okay, maybe they are 'too young' in that they aren't personally sexually active yet... That's the PERFECT time to learn - you want to learn the risks of driving drunk before you ever get out on the road. We don't wait for you to have a few beers and get behind the wheel to tell you why it's a bad idea. Why would parents want to do that with sex? No use teaching them once they're 'old enough' - by then they may be pregnant or have caught something!
@@ChickenOfAwesome unfortunately it is the misconception that “if they never hear about it, they won’t do it.”
Sex ed in 90s Ukraine scarred me for a long time. The ob-gyn said that parents loved only wanted kids and always resented/abused the ones from unplanned pregnancies. Since I always strongly felt I had no moral right to abortion without a VERY good reason and resolved to keep any unplanned pregnancy, I was mortified!
What I find interesting is there are a lot of stories of adoptees from russia and/or ukraine with major behavioral issues and I wonder if those children were from a situation like that. :-(
That’s so sad!
@@Kristinapedia That's not the point. Those kids familis had other issues than unwanted pregnancy. They often come from families that have intergenerational history of violence, neglect and substance abuse. Just bcs u didn't get initially excited finding out u r pregnant (6-8 wks) doesn't automatically mean u won't love the kid. Just like wanting and planning a pregnancy won't guarantee u will love the kid. My point, what she said was stupid, callous, thoughtless and professionally unethical (she was an ob-gyn).
@@Mama_Bear524 Not just that, she was being thoughtless and professionally unethical (she was an ob-gyn).
@@MadamoftheCatHouse Of course there are many other reasons why. I just didn't state that in my reply. I was focusiing on this one reason for my post.
I grew up in the 80's and they made people feel so uncomfortable about STDs, that I'm still embarrassed to ask the doctor for tests.
I can’t even count the times I said to myself “that escalated quickly” while watching this 😅
Fun fact: I was a blood transfusion baby recipient in the timeframe that was identified as problematic. BUT I was not made aware of this, or the steps taken, when I was a child, to monitor my risk, until I was an adult 🤦🏻♀️
They really did try to scare people. I always thought I had AIDS as a kid. If I had a rash, a cold, anything, I was always asking my parents if it was AIDS. I grew up during the epidemic.
You poor thing.
It is so good that we have medication now. Sadly my mother's older sister died from AIDS just a year before the medicine was found. But she participated in the testing of the drugs, and I like to think that she helped save a lot of people that way.
The worst part is that she only got it because her husband didn't tell her that he was positive. And after she was diagnosed he left her and her young daughter who was left with no parents when my mother's sister died :(
i was a teenager in the 80’s when AIDS was just discovered. i remember watching the news when it was 1st broadcast! it was absolutely terrifying, people were scared to death because we didn’t know hardly anything yet, including how it was spread. ambulance’s wouldn’t transport people with AIDS; they hadn’t even separated HIV vs active AIDS. it certainly got everyone’s attention. i remember the health department having an assembly a couple years later when they had a little bit more info, it was nothing like this video tho!! there was a lot of questions, some she could answer, others she admitted she didn’t know yet. just wear a condom if you do have sex. looking back i guess i was lucky to get decent information for the time.
11:10 These poor kids keep asking that, and he keeps not answering. He's just going into more and more detail about how our bodies fight off colds, and hasn't once explained why that doesn't work for HIV.
Technically, your body *tries* to fight off HIV, but it’s simultaneously losing immune cells. It’s like fighting a horde of zombies that kill your front-line soldiers faster than you can replace them.
Ikr
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Am I the only one who would love to know how the costume designer would envision COVID if he worked on one of these nowadays? 😂
I'm sure they showed us that first video at my school. It was Christian school so they also made us sign a pledge to our parents to stay virgins until marriage. There was quite a lot of "condoms don't work and are basically worthless" in what sort of vaguely passed for sex ed.
Sex education in the 90s into the 2000s is at the same level as the DARE program:
Scare the crap out of students with factually incorrect information and make them think absence only is the only way to go (as if married people wouldn’t benefit from comprehensive sexual education and drug addicts wouldn’t benefit from harm reduction strategies).
Neither worked in my school.
I can confidently say that DARE worked 100% on me and we were _super_ enthusiastic about it. I nearly called the cops on my parents because I spotted my mom's birth control pills on the dresser and never touched any illicit substance, legal or illegal, until well into adulthood.
Neither worked anywhere. They were horrible methods and screwed us up
Because of DARE, I have the song Total Eclipse of the Heart memorized. There was a scriptless skit that was done every single year set to this song that equated all drugs, sex, alcohol, and STI's and then proceeded to say that they all fed into one another, and once you try any of them you're addicted, no one can help you, and you will die causing your friends and family horrible pain. 🤯
"Once upon a time I was falling in love, Now I'm only falling apart. There's nothing I can do, a Total Eclipse of the Heart."
Are you trying to say one cigarette won’t make you die on the spot? Lol
@LeadTrumpet1 just to be clear, it's "abstinence-only" from the verb "to abstain" i.e., teach the kids they must abstain from all sexual activity until married to a spouse of the opposite sex, and don't give them any additional information. So they're still stumbling in the dark after the class is over.
I was child in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s and I remember sex ed videos a lot like these ones. It's really easy to see why our generation is so messed up. It's a wonder any of us are functioning adults at all.
I grew up going to the Unitarian Universalist Church and part of the Sunday School curriculum included human sexuality. The program evolved into the Our Whole Lives (OWL) classes which is very popular and more widespread these days. My kids took the very comprehensive, sixth grade course and often commented as they got older about feeling very knowledgeable and prepared. It's so important to prepare our children. I really appreciate the information that you share on your videos, I believe it makes a big difference.
I took the high school OWL class too! I wasn’t Unitarian Universalist, but my friend was, and I remember getting such a thrill from hearing grown up talking about sex in such a frank manner in a CHURCH. It was very exciting.
Wow. This really scratches my dark humor fix. We didn't have sex ed in my school in the 90s. We had "self-respect" class where we learned to fear everything fun.
In 1986 I had to have blood and plasma transfusion before my daughter was born. 2 pints of blood and plasma to be specific. Then a couple of years later my daughter had too be a stayer in hospital for a week. There was a little boy in her ward. He was .about 2 and he had aids. His parents didn't want anything to do with him and the nurses WARNED me he had HIV, I sat on his bed with my daughter and read books to both children. He was my daughters companion for her week stay in hospital. Nurses would come in and were shocked either I was sitting on his bed with my daughter or we were on her bed. I was horrified the nurses treated him like a leper. It disgusted me. Nothing happened to my daughter sitting on his bed. Nothing happened to ,me cuddling him. My daughter is 36 this year. I hated the fear mungering that it brought out of ignorant people. Especially health care workers. Oh I had a junior nurse when I was going to have my transfusion 1 day before my daughter was born saying to me " aren't you glad they screen for aids these days" well she got sacked after my report. I don't tolerate stupid behaviour at all.
The kissing thing unearthed a memory from the early 90s of a friend of my parents who was a nurse who was keeping up-to-date on AIDS research and I remember her saying, "You could drink a bathtub of infected saliva and not catch the virus."
I don't know how accurate that is, but it was a very, very evocative mental image.
I was told that you'd have to drink 5 gallons of an infected person's saliva in order to have a chance of getting it via saliva. & the thought of drinking anyone's saliva, infected or not, still makes my stomach queasy, lol!
This reminds me too much of my public middle school sex ed class in my incredibly religious town in the mid-2000s. Even almost 2 decades later, I am still actively unlearning the misinformation and pushing away the shame from growing up in purity culture. Thank you for all you do.
I was a victim of CSA, and I remember sitting in our yearly "sex ed" seminar, crying scared that I was now diseased, and anyone entering into a consensual, loving relationship with me in the future would end up dead because of what happened to me.
It's interesting how they took the 'damaged goods' philosophy of purity culture and began pushing it with science once religious shame wasn't working anymore.
Even more interesting is how they managed to get public funding for it.
I remember doing a report on HIV/AIDS crisis for my health class. I remember learning about how a lot of the negative stigma and delay of actually doing something to help was because of homophobia. Gay people (as an umbrella term) were more likely to get the disease because they were less likely to use condoms and other safe sex products as they couldn't get pregnant. Because the vast majority of victims were gay, no one wanted to help them and misinformation was rampant. Few people wanted to admit that they had HIV because that was essentially the same as coming out. It was so intertwined with gay people that it became known as the "gay disease" People have looked back on how everything was handled and pretty much all agree that if people didn't let their internal biases get in the way, the crisis would've been a lot better. The crisis also worsened homophobia around the country because people now immediately associated "gay" with "diseased" The HIV/AIDS crisis most likely set LGBT rights back years and it still continues to effect the community today.
Other factors in the high number of gay people who contracted HIV include a higher transmission rate via anal intercourse than other forms of intercourse, as well as difficulty in marketing condoms towards mlm, as many men who were engaging in sex with other men didn't identify as gay or otherwise queer.
That was certainly the case in the UK. The government at the time refused to do anything until they realised straight people, including women, were getting it. The minister who had been pushing for quite some time against the PM, Maggie Thatcher, to get at least some sort of psa out conveniently left out that those straight people were drug users and prostitutes otherwise it would never have happened. Even then the leaflets did more to scare and panic than give helpful information.
Also, about half a million died due to the gross mishandling of the disease by the Reagan Admin. If you ever wondered why there seem to be more younger gay people-its because there literally are.
It's absolutely shocking that there are some people today who still believe AIDS/HIV is a "gay disease" 🤯
I remember in the late 90s and early 2000s it being the "gay"disease . it wasn't until I was 16 or so in2006 I learned it was indiscriminate with heterosexuals. I knew a bi guy who couldn't give blood in 2008 because he'd slept with guys in the past 10yrs. It's still a stigma
My goodness I am glad the film that they were showing in catholic school was not found by you. I was a little nervous about watching your video before I thought it might be the one I saw in the late 80's. The one that the church was making us watch was worse than any horror movie that I have ever watched including someone up on a cross for having AIDS. It was demented but I am glad this one is not being seen also.
It wasn't a Sex Ed class but when I was in year 6, we had a guest speaker come in and tell us that 10% of our class population (of about 30 kids) wouldn't even make it to our 10 year reunion, because they'd die in a car accident.
What's sad, is that we did actually lose one of our number to a hit and run.
When my twins were little I was talking to a family member about how hard it was to donate my oversupply, and a family member who had kids in the 70s said to me "oh, just give it to your hospital's maternity ward, they all have milk banks." And another relative who had her kids in the 90s said "uh, what? All the milk banks were shut down in the AIDS panic as a transmission risk."
I thought it was silly. And then covid hit and I heard about mothers being separated from their babies and prohibited from breastfeeding. I get it now. People fear what they don't know and we're lucky we learned quickly this time around and had resources to share information near instantaneously.
I was born in 89, and im so proud to say that I have pretty bad sensory issues, and hair cuts were always a massive issue for me, so I actually never had bangs🙌🙌
I had allll the anxiety, but no bangs! Thank God no bangs!🙌🙌🙌
I'm getting flashbacks to going to school in the early 2000s and having teachers give the most complicated explanations for what turned out to be simple concepts.
This was the reason I was so scared of intimacy for ages. 😩😐😑
I also grew up with an uncle who had aids and it really freaked me out. He’s still alive and well. He was one of the first people to receive the as he says, “magical cocktail”.
He owns an art gallery and does a lot for his community.
I’m glad I took the time to educate myself and ask my mum about it. She wasn’t happy with what they taught me. She has always worked in the healthcare system so she dealt with individuals with AIDS and knew the ins and outs of it all.
My father caught hepititis in the 70s from a blood transfusion. This contributed to him getting liver cancer and passing in the early 90s. I am so happy they have tests to check blood donations now.
Hi Mama Doctor Jones! As a PA-C I can honestly say you’re the doctor I wish I had. I’ve had some horrible experiences in seeking medical care! As a sexual assault survivor, pelvic exams are a struggle for me. Obviously I get through it because I know the importance, it’s just tough! On the contrary side, I see patients that struggle with this as well! I’d love it if you did a video discussing sexual assault, and your approach to working with these patients!
I would love a video on that as well. I'm also a sexual assault survivor and I have tons of difficulty with pap smears as well. I find them very traumatic
Thanks. I was a volunteer at the AIDS clinic at NIH in 1982. I didn't mention it at work even though someone from work was one of the patients. It was a challenging era. So many funerals . . .
Were the two films much worse than other sex-education films of the era? [A real question since we still seem to do a terrible job of teaching children about sex.]
Well, bless you for what you did.
I remember learning about this in 5th grade and at the time I was reading the book “The Indian in the Cupboard” (problematic in and of itself, but this was the 90s and I didn’t know). In that book, the two main characters cut their palms open and tie the two wounds together to become “blood brothers” as a expression of friendship. I remember asking the teacher if doing that could give you AIDS. He was appalled when I explained it and thought that I had actually done that myself (I hadn’t). It all got back to my mom and she and I had a very serious but confusing discussion about why you shouldn’t intentionally bleed on your friends for fun.
up until the early 200s they still had the question about visiting random corn fields with strangers..... i remember the whole abstinence campaign back in the 90s and the horrifyingly inaccurate information tossed about as scare tactics.
I'm a Kiwi who was a teenager in the mid 80s, we were taught about hiv/aids, it was part of our sex education, we were taught that the use of condoms was the best way to lessen the chance of contracting the virus. We were never taught abstinence.
Oh, I had blocked this out! We watched this in 1997 health class, followed by a video about Ryan White, who got AIDS from a blood transfusion, so I was terrified of sex AND blood transfusions. :)
We actually had people come to our school who had the virus and were living pretty full lives. Sex ex wasn't a thing until health class senior year. We had to have our parents sign something back in elementary school, but I don't remember what we had to do. If we were to talk about HIV, AIDS, Syphilis and other sexually transmitted diseases, we would be better able to prevent them from being transmitted in the first place. Maybe if we knew in the 80's and 90's what we know now and talked about in a normal way, Freddy Mercury could have sought treatment sooner and might have lived longer.
I am... oh my God. This is....holy shit I am actually speechless. The sheer audacity of bangs lady to say the things she said. I don't know if I should laugh or cry?? I can't really help but to feel like doing both.
Little FACT. Princess Dianna helped educate against stigma around aids and peoples fear of AIDS and being around others with AIDS. There is a famous photo of her shaking hands with a man who has AIDS which helped educate people to be less fearful to those with it. She was an amazing advocate for those with AIDS around the world.
Does anyone remember a video from 90’s sex Ed (more just puberty education) where a girl had gotten her period and brought an entire brown paper bag of pads to school, bumped into her crush, spilled the pads, and he helped her pick them up trying to not embarrass her?