I know right, brazen as hell. I think the dog didn't bark as he knew the person... I had a situation in Australia where I had my neighbor inside my house at my bedroom door at 3am.. my dog didn't bark as she knew him. I caught the arsewipe but only because my dog alerted me to something being wrong when she wouldn't lie down on my bed to sleep after a loo break outside. I got up, crept to the door where it was only tapped shut. I could hear him breathing and his jacket material slightly swooshing. I thought my life was over as I lived alone, but flung open that door and chased him out. 10 minutes later he was found attempting to making his way back in.
Chances are, if all the kids left at the same time, he knew they were gone and possibly entered the residence and waited for them to return, and go to bed. Somehow I think he was hiding and waiting on them. (I watched the livestream, but when it's on my TV, TH-cam doesn't let me chat online.) Thanks Chris and Karen. I'll catch you tomorrow night👍
This almost immediately clears up so much of the confusion. Looking at how close those neighbors are and how they had to leave the main road and go to the end of a cul de sac. It is so likely to be someone who either lives there, lived there, or partied there. Requiring a 4 wheel drive could help if someone leaves in the middle of the night it would have been icy. If nobody left, then it becomes did they walk to a parking lot further away. But there is supposedly a camera showing the girls returning home. If someone avoided all of those cameras in the pitch black, that person would be very local.
This is so tragic. My niece attends college there and lives off campus in that neighborhood. I'm worried sick for her. I'm praying they catch this dirt bag! Love and light to your family. I hope you have a happy and healthy holiday season and new year.
Did she go back after Thanksgiving break? After reading that everyone had the option to finish the semester online I've been curious about the various reasons people decided to be on campus.
This has been the most helpful of anything I’ve seen. You showing all around the area is the best out there. No way to get a feel for the area with anything else I’ve seen. Excellent job.
Omg first time viewer and I must say this is one of the best videos I have ever watched on this unimaginable event! Thank you for your coverage and for doing what you do! You have gained a lifelong subscriber!
This was so professional and well done. Thank you both so much for taking the time to really show us the area. Great review of facts and ideas on the crime and criminal. You have fans here in New Hampshire.
I was overwhelmed with the reports and suspicions on other channels and thought...who do I trust for information that's not hyped up? It's You!! Thanks for talking reasonably. You guys are good people.
@@KumikoKurasawa I know what you mean. Most of the crazy was coming from News outlets. I will stick with those I trust. Chris and Karen, I know it's been said before, but your coverage of the area was very insightful. Thanks for helping this community feel like we're right there helping you. I hope there's some way you can help them.
This is the best video I've seen regarding this case. The depth is unparalleled by any MSM news. You can really grasp the area, topography, ingress and egress points. This video has convinced me this was 100% planned.
Thanks to Chris and Karen for sharing their observations on this case, as well as providing all the video of the local area where these murders took place. It’s just so eery I almost couldn’t watch. Chris finding the glove that appeared to have been overlooked by investigators is concerning. I hope the investigators assigned to the case will ask for outside help, if needed. They must be feeling pretty overwhelmed, given how rare this type of crime is in their jurisdiction.
Chris this is such a great and informative video. Thank you, Mrs. Karen & Buddy for your investigative skills. This breaks my heart for the young lives that were taken & the family & friends this has forever affected. 💔
Wow. This video is amazing. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise and insights. Iv learnt so much from this video. Praying for the families and hoping justice prevails. Love from the UK x
Absolutely wonderful show tonight and can't wait for tomorrow with Chris and Greg. Thank you as always for being so respectful and compassionate to the victims and their families. Full class act by Chris and Karen. Love you guys! GOD BLESS YOU!
so looking forward to your livestream video tomorrow with the fbi profiler chris .. keep us upto date with all this in depth idaho case work please its so interesting 👏👏
Very good show guys. After seeing your coverage of the house, I too believe the more woodsy side of the house would’ve been a prime location to enter and exit without being seen.
I would like to say that your channel is the one I go to more than any other one. You share facts, experience, and unbiased opinion thank you for being real.
Thank you so much for sharing the footage of the Moscow area near the girls’ home and your insightful commentary. I was surprised that the house rented by the girls sat so close to the driveway on the side - the one that bordered the nearby apartments. The perpetrator could have stood in that dark area on many nights and observed and perhaps even listened to the girls’ voices. This underscores the importance of security lighting and making sure that one’s curtains or blinds are drawn....in addition to doors and windows being locked. May these precious young people Rest In Peace and God bring comfort to their families. Praying that justice is served soon 🙏🏼
@@cathylangan896 that certainly sparked interest as Chris spoke of him. He had the view and proximity not to mention acquired knowledge from his Dad, (￣ヘ￣）ᴴᴹᴹᴹ
😭 Cried like a baby when y'all came down the apartments drive, the light was so bright, and you said it was as if they were there. I agree. I pray those babies lead the investigators to the person.
Do you think there is a possibility the perpetrator did this before holiday season so he could cool off and leave the town with other students unnoticed?
What a way to bring on a huge negative energy over a holiday dedicated to love of family, friendship, togetherness, fellowship and positivity. This is a huge energy grab.
I live in Idaho. We have an early Winter here. Cold Cold tempatures. Get dark prob about 5 pm to 5: 30. Thank you for coming to Idaho for this case and for monkey Vaughan. You both have a place in my heart always. Long distant hugs. You and Karen work hard for the victims and their families.PRAYERS TO THE FAMILIES. Diana from the tater state Idaho.
Interesting insight from your footage is just how viewable the house is for everyone living in the area and especially with the big parking lot right above, overlooking the house. It seems like that house would be pretty easy to view inside those screen doors on the 2nd and 3rd floor from the parking lot.
Oh Gosh so moving as you drive away - the sun - as we are leaving them behind. Very respectfully done Thank you. It must have been sad for you to visit.
Thanks for the video guys. I’m confused as to why that window screen is still lying there. Shouldn’t it have been taken as evidence and finger printed?
I have to say Chris, the blinding sun moved me. I agree with you that these kids were there, letting everyone know that they are ok and at Peace where they are now, in Heaven. That really touched me and I am sobbing now, gave me the chills. I hear the pain in your voice too. God Bless You Chris 💔❤🩹❤
Thank you. This was so informative. The cinder blocks immediately drew my attention. Wow with the glove! Could LE have missed it? If so, shoddy work. Hmmm. The sun, then their pics, made me lose it. My heart bleeds for their friends and families. May justice come soon.
I think you stood exactly where he parked the car at the back of the house. You’re analysis was spot on in hindsight. You called it, it was getting too complicated & a peek out the door from a survivor.
It makes me so sad that the girls did use the buddy system, they stayed in well lit, public places with lots of other people around, they got safe rides to/from their night out on the town, they made it safely home and this still happened to them.
He may have been already in the house. Waiting. Perhaps, multiple times. Bonding and grooming with the dog. Then something shattered his fantasy. Angered him? Idk.
@@Nice-qi5cf Maybe. It gives me the cold chills just thinking of him hiding in a closet or behind a shower curtain peeking at them. It's like a nightmare come to life.
It was said that the roommates saw the bloody scene and became hysterical. They dialed 911 while running out of the house. A neighbor, walking by, saw them and was trying to communicate with them what happened. Before the roommate could say, she passed out. The passerby grabbed the phone and reported to the dispatcher that there was an unconscious person… meaning the roommate. He didn’t know what had taken place on the inside… This is what has been reported.
Love the way you talk and love your explanations. I live in Walla Walla (sounds like you were here in or before 1992) and we are about… less than 2 hours from Moscow and Pullman but everywhere between there and here in the Palouse is all small communities. You were right on about a lot of things! I’ve visited Moscow, I also think that the path you show at the 1 hour and two minute marker (I think that was the point in this video) is where he entered the house. There’s a chain link fence, but no cameras on that path and a straight shot to the back slider. I’m sure you discuss this in more of your videos, so on to more of your stuff!
Very detailed and interesting! Thank you for all your guys time you put into this. This gives an entirely different view of the situation verses what we've seen from news and media outlets. Wow! Unbelievable you spotted that glove when nobody else had. Even authorities and the ones working working the crime scene. Love your joke of one glove😉 still only half way through the video but thanks again for sharing!
My favorite line: “…and if you’re watching, they’re coming” I laughed a victory laugh because I have faith that this creep is going down. Justice for Ethan, Zayna, Maddie and Kailey!
No camera footage from the police asking anyone if they recognize this person. This tells me it's someone that lives very close by. It's someone that can see the home. It's someone that didn't need a vehicle.
Not going to lie, when you showed that little staircase it gave me the creeps. Just a gut feeling. There are so many vantage points to watch the house from.. Hope they find this monster.
Every video im watching he is mentionned because he stated something… the apartment complex he lives in is huge, i actually thought he lived there alone before seeing this video bc i didn’t have any notion of the area 🤨
Kaylee's sister stated in an interview that video shows the girls were dropped off at 1:56 so either there is video footage we haven't been informed of or the driver had a dash cam or other video availability.
A gas station attendant reviewed security cam footage on their own and found the video of the car speeding away. Strange the police didn't find every cam and footage from everywhere nearby. Makes me wonder what they missed.
Thankyou Chris and Karen for covering this case so well. I’m in the U.K. so we don’t get news updates on this, your coverage is very welcome, and you are both so respectful of the families of the victims which a lot of true crime channels arnt. I’m sure the families are grateful for all your help
This is the best video. I think it brings a lot of perspective on the perpetrator. This video gave me the chills. The home brings a darkness to me and it’s scary. The perpetrator knew the area and the victim’s routines. I am surprised there are no cameras In the back parking lot behind the house. They need to ramp up security and install street cams.
I live in Moscow, we are a small, friendly community with not much crime. I regularly see my friends and neighbors out in the community. This is the kind of place where lots of people don't lock their doors, let alone have security cameras or security systems.
Someone easily could have parked up there behind the house and sat in car and watch the house and easily got away unnoticed. Could be someone living in apartments too.
You never fail to impress. I cannot believe that glove situation! Wow. I feel like it was a great thing that you guys went there.. And not just for the unprecedented perspective. Karen is a beauty with a beautiful disposition. You guys are amazing and I love you & the TIR family 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
BTW my opinion on why the dog didn't seem to react is because that house is a very active house from what we are told. So the dog is accustomed to so many others being in the home that is becomes normal for "strangers" to be there. Now I don't think this suspect is a "stranger" to the girls but in their inner circle, but to the dog it's possible. I also think "he" may have been in the home before, unlocked that bedroom window of the spare room & possibly entered more then once & just linger in those empty/unused spaces. I feel those blocks by the window are used as a seat & the sitter can sort of hide behind the grill & charcoal bag & it's also their step coming in & out of the window.
It really really disturbing that they did not find that glove, since it was right by the garage can. Thank God you found it. I do realize they are a very small police department but that was a big miss in my opinion.
1. That glove not already being discovered is concerning. 2. That vacant room with bricks as a stepping stool very eerie. Could be a shorter male. 3. He could easily have unlocked that vacant window while attending a party or with a prior unknown break in, In preparation. Great coverage. Thank you. So tragic.
It would be really interesting to see what the area looks like at 3:00 am, in the pitch dark in 20 degree weather. Are there any street lights? What houses are lit up? Just the string of lights at 1122?
May God give you and all the detectives on this case wisdom, knowledge, and understanding to help in the capture of this monster. He will be caught. Yvonne
Watched this on replay and SUBSCRIBED! I’m going to be a #1 fan I can tell already. You’re a great team and this was so informative. Thank you both for your dedication to solving these horrific tragedies.
@The Interview Room. The local police should have spotted that glove when they were taping the Crime Scene area. I have watched a number of videos about this crime, and this one is far and away the most helpful in thinking about it from the murderer’s perspective. You talked to the driver who had backed in his car. I doubt very much the local police have done that. You figured out the light was not working in the apartment building, and meanwhile it took the local police nine days to process the crime scene alone. Your video of the area where they walked and drove and lived really brings it home, we can see it through their eyes.
The police never had control of that scene. The roommates called their friends before calling the police and we don't know how many kids were traipsing around contaminating that scene. The glove you are referring to was NOT in the original pictures according to other websites. It was one of the technicians that dropped it.
Guy at the food truck, not hoodie guy who was with them, was also at the club. He noticed one girl hadn’t paid and told the truck owner, he noticed who they were with and when they left. He was trying to be a frat guy but clearly wasn’t. He went in for a hug from a girl when she hugged the man beside him, but was ignored. He was big enough to overpower one person while attacking another - sheer size, weight could immobilise two people. The police have said they checked out the guy at the food truck but was probably hoodie guy. Social awkwardness, rejection, desperate to fit in with young, hip crowd. The perpetrator was obviously enraged. Points to an inadequate-feeling male who uses fury against his victims. He has no doubt watched the girls for a lot longer than that night at the food truck and club. He knew where they lived. He’d scoped it all out. He is probably a local, not a college student.
Thanks you so much for the time you have both spent covering this tragic case. I have been very disturbed by these senseless deaths. Sending love and respect from South Africa. Always watching your replays.
You know it still surprises me that nobody around has cameras on their home... I'm in a small safe town in Ohio and I have 4 just to watch my surroundings and a few of my neighbors same thing so when something happens in our neighborhood we all compare what footage we got if any... just kinda odd with how technology is these days but I'm also a single momma and need to see my surroundings... I even have one for just watching my car cause we do get break ins on vehicles...
As far as the roommate saying another roommate was “unconscious “ and called a friend to come over , I was thinking that it’s possible that E & X or M or K were behind a locked door and not answering and the roommates knew that they were in there and not responding so they assumed they were unconscious or passed out? Called a friend to help them figure it out, still not answering from any of the other 4 people so the 911 call was for an unconscious person not answering the bedroom door? Bc I can’t think of any human that would notice a roommate on the floor and not a call to 911 with the amount of blood? It’s the only thing that makes sense to me
One of the surviving roommates saw Ethan in the kitchen, freaked out and ran outside while dialing 911, then fainted. A group (more than 1 person, but not sure how many exactly) heard her scream and saw her faint (unconscious), and grabbed her phone to talk to the 911 operator. So that’s why the initial 911 call was for an unconscious person. Then the rest of the people were found
I hope you all noticed the dude sitting in his car that was watching you then walking around and as soon as you pointed the camera at him he walked away. No. Not the officer.
Could the griller used it as a seat or table to place things on. Also, could the students have removed the screen to pass things back and forth from the kitchen to the griller?
Hello to you. I came across your channel and watched your video on the Idaho Murders. I am so happy that it popped up on my “things to watch.” You are a combined class act and I look forward to to your next upload.
The fact that the suspect entered a house where six people and a dog were home is scary as hell! Thanks for this!
I see a lot of dumpsters along the road on the left. We're they checked for the knife.
I know right, brazen as hell. I think the dog didn't bark as he knew the person... I had a situation in Australia where I had my neighbor inside my house at my bedroom door at 3am.. my dog didn't bark as she knew him. I caught the arsewipe but only because my dog alerted me to something being wrong when she wouldn't lie down on my bed to sleep after a loo break outside. I got up, crept to the door where it was only tapped shut. I could hear him breathing and his jacket material slightly swooshing. I thought my life was over as I lived alone, but flung open that door and chased him out. 10 minutes later he was found attempting to making his way back in.
@@jo-penford omg that is so scary 😨 thx god you are okay 👍
@@OnlyHumanMe yes ...thank you. From what I later found out I was extremely lucky that night.
@@jo-penford WOW!! Glad you were ok!
Join us tomorrow 8 PM thank you all for being with us here at TIR.
I’ll be there, thank you both!
3 of my brothers graduated from Moscow.
Chances are, if all the kids left at the same time, he knew they were gone and possibly entered the residence and waited for them to return, and go to bed. Somehow I think he was hiding and waiting on them. (I watched the livestream, but when it's on my TV, TH-cam doesn't let me chat online.) Thanks Chris and Karen. I'll catch you tomorrow night👍
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This almost immediately clears up so much of the confusion. Looking at how close those neighbors are and how they had to leave the main road and go to the end of a cul de sac. It is so likely to be someone who either lives there, lived there, or partied there. Requiring a 4 wheel drive could help if someone leaves in the middle of the night it would have been icy. If nobody left, then it becomes did they walk to a parking lot further away. But there is supposedly a camera showing the girls returning home. If someone avoided all of those cameras in the pitch black, that person would be very local.
This is so tragic. My niece attends college there and lives off campus in that neighborhood. I'm worried sick for her. I'm praying they catch this dirt bag! Love and light to your family. I hope you have a happy and healthy holiday season and new year.
Please make sure to get ring cameras on front and back doors
Make sure there is good security lighting where she lives too. Criminals don't want to be seen.
For sure!
Did she go back after Thanksgiving break? After reading that everyone had the option to finish the semester online I've been curious about the various reasons people decided to be on campus.
Im sooooo glad you preserved this Chris & Karen! I re watched it tonight to see the house and the environment. ❤
Tears to my eyes. 1:08 ....
Thank you for the moment in tribute Chris and Karen.
Thank you so much for giving us this in person view of the home and all of its surroundings. This put things in a very different perspective.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Best visual of the neighborhood I've seen thus far. Your slow, methodical, reasoned approach makes for a pleasurable viewing experience. Well done!
This has been the most helpful of anything I’ve seen. You showing all around the area is the best out there. No way to get a feel for the area with anything else I’ve seen. Excellent job.
Awesome, thank you!
@@TheInterviewRoom I posted it on other places following this crime to let folks know how much info your video gives 👍
Omg first time viewer and I must say this is one of the best videos I have ever watched on this unimaginable event! Thank you for your coverage and for doing what you do! You have gained a lifelong subscriber!
Wonderful having boots on the ground! It helps me view the house and area.
This must be said ....what a lovely couple Chris and Karen are. I love the team work.
This was so professional and well done. Thank you both so much for taking the time to really show us the area. Great review of facts and ideas on the crime and criminal. You have fans here in New Hampshire.
Fantastic video & commentary…really helps understand the landscape and especially the profile process. Thank you
This was the best video that I have seen thank you to the both of you fantastic work👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🏽
Glad you enjoyed it
Toledo Ohio and thank you for such detailed and thoughtful videos. I’m glad I found your channel!
Excellent work! This video was very insightful!
Thank you...first time subscriber and this was the best report I've seen by far.
Thank you for being with us.
I was overwhelmed with the reports and suspicions on other channels and thought...who do I trust for information that's not hyped up? It's You!! Thanks for talking reasonably. You guys are good people.
Yeah the true crime community is filled with crazy. The retired LE people who have channels are the best. Watch out for the tragedy pimps.
@@KumikoKurasawa I know what you mean. Most of the crazy was coming from News outlets. I will stick with those I trust. Chris and Karen, I know it's been said before, but your coverage of the area was very insightful. Thanks for helping this community feel like we're right there helping you. I hope there's some way you can help them.
Really fascinating. Thank you both for taking us to the neighborhood. Such a thoughtful approach to analyzing this case.
Glad you enjoyed it
This is the best video I've seen regarding this case. The depth is unparalleled by any MSM news. You can really grasp the area, topography, ingress and egress points. This video has convinced me this was 100% planned.
What an informative, carefully put together video. THANK YOU for your coverage, your time and your expertise
Thanks to Chris and Karen for sharing their observations on this case, as well as providing all the video of the local area where these murders took place. It’s just so eery I almost couldn’t watch. Chris finding the glove that appeared to have been overlooked by investigators is concerning. I hope the investigators assigned to the case will ask for outside help, if needed. They must be feeling pretty overwhelmed, given how rare this type of crime is in their jurisdiction.
I bet one of the police dropped it .
Chris this is such a great and informative video. Thank you, Mrs. Karen & Buddy for your investigative skills. This breaks my heart for the young lives that were taken & the family & friends this has forever affected. 💔
Glad it was helpful!
Wow. This video is amazing. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise and insights. Iv learnt so much from this video. Praying for the families and hoping justice prevails. Love from the UK x
Thank goodness you made this video. Especially since they tore down the house
Absolutely wonderful show tonight and can't wait for tomorrow with Chris and Greg. Thank you as always for being so respectful and compassionate to the victims and their families. Full class act by Chris and Karen. Love you guys! GOD BLESS YOU!
Definitely looking forward to tonight's program as well!!
Great show just subbed.
Thank you so much for being with us.
so looking forward to your livestream video tomorrow with the fbi profiler chris .. keep us upto date with all this in depth idaho case work please its so interesting 👏👏
Excellent video, I’m a new sub, many thanks xxx
This was amazing to get a perspective of the area. Thank you for doing this.
As a retired LEO, I really miss conducting investigations the most, and always protecting the citizens and property to the best of my ability.
Thank you for your service!
NO one is being protected when the assailant is free and not in custody. Not even a sketch or a reward going into 3 weeks of terror.
Very good show guys. After seeing your coverage of the house, I too believe the more woodsy side of the house would’ve been a prime location to enter and exit without being seen.
This show was true crime at its best. IT WAS SO GOOD, I watched again immediately. Much Respect
I would like to say that your channel is the one I go to more than any other one. You share facts, experience, and unbiased opinion thank you for being real.
Awesome, thank you!
Great Content!!! Hoping this comes in HD quality soon. Please continue to keep us updated!!
Thank you for watching and for your kind donation
Thank you so much for sharing the footage of the Moscow area near the girls’ home and your insightful commentary. I was surprised that the house rented by the girls sat so close to the driveway on the side - the one that bordered the nearby apartments. The perpetrator could have stood in that dark area on many nights and observed and perhaps even listened to the girls’ voices. This underscores the importance of security lighting and making sure that one’s curtains or blinds are drawn....in addition to doors and windows being locked. May these precious young people Rest In Peace and God bring comfort to their families. Praying that justice is served soon 🙏🏼
I really appreciate the on-site analysis. Such a sad sad story.
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I have gotten so wrapped up in this that I kept talking even after it ended, lol
It was awesome thank you Karen and Chris
The kid who owns the silver car that's backed in and who's dad is a homicide detective, could be a suspect.
@@cathylangan896 that certainly sparked interest as Chris spoke of him. He had the view and proximity not to mention acquired knowledge from his Dad, (￣ヘ￣）ᴴᴹᴹᴹ
My first time here. I think ya'll did a great job with ya'lls walk thru. I commend ya'll with the jobs ya'll have to help us with this❤❤❤
Welcome!!
😭 Cried like a baby when y'all came down the apartments drive, the light was so bright, and you said it was as if they were there. I agree. I pray those babies lead the investigators to the person.
Excellent show, thank you. Look forward to tonight's show.
Hope you enjoy it!
I always want to know what you have to say! This video was especially insightful. Also enjoyed hearing Karen's point of view!
Do you think there is a possibility the perpetrator did this before holiday season so he could cool off and leave the town with other students unnoticed?
That would be good planning, I think this was definitely a possibility
What a way to bring on a huge negative energy over a holiday dedicated to love of family, friendship, togetherness, fellowship and positivity. This is a huge energy grab.
What an absolutely outstanding show! I look forward to your channel. Thank you.
Your exploration of the region and crime scene was excellent.
I live in Idaho. We have an early Winter here. Cold Cold tempatures. Get dark prob about 5 pm to 5: 30. Thank you for coming to Idaho for this case and for monkey Vaughan. You both have a place in my heart always. Long distant hugs. You and Karen work hard for the victims and their families.PRAYERS TO THE FAMILIES. Diana from the tater state Idaho.
Interesting insight from your footage is just how viewable the house is for everyone living in the area and especially with the big parking lot right above, overlooking the house. It seems like that house would be pretty easy to view inside those screen doors on the 2nd and 3rd floor from the parking lot.
Love it when Karen makes an appearance on an episode. She’s very well spoken and insightful.
Phillip Koch has alot of coincidence es that should b looked into its aha moments
@@staceydahn5176 i missed that one.
Oh Gosh so moving as you drive away - the sun - as we are leaving them behind. Very respectfully done Thank you. It must have been sad for you to visit.
This world is a better place because of men like Chris McDonough. Thank you, sir for your hard work and caring nature.
So nice of you
Thanks for the video guys. I’m confused as to why that window screen is still lying there. Shouldn’t it have been taken as evidence and finger printed?
I have to say Chris, the blinding sun moved me. I agree with you that these kids were there, letting everyone know that they are ok and at Peace where they are now, in Heaven. That really touched me and I am sobbing now, gave me the chills. I hear the pain in your voice too. God Bless You Chris 💔❤🩹❤
Thank you. This was so informative.
The cinder blocks immediately drew my attention. Wow with the glove! Could LE have missed it? If so, shoddy work. Hmmm.
The sun, then their pics, made me lose it. My heart bleeds for their friends and families.
May justice come soon.
I enjoy the Interview Room. Very interesting information and very detailed. Thanks for shedding more light on this crucial case.
I think you stood exactly where he parked the car at the back of the house. You’re analysis was spot on in hindsight. You called it, it was getting too complicated & a peek out the door from a survivor.
It makes me so sad that the girls did use the buddy system, they stayed in well lit, public places with lots of other people around, they got safe rides to/from their night out on the town, they made it safely home and this still happened to them.
He may have been already in the house. Waiting. Perhaps, multiple times. Bonding and grooming with the dog. Then something shattered his fantasy. Angered him? Idk.
@@Nice-qi5cf Maybe. It gives me the cold chills just thinking of him hiding in a closet or behind a shower curtain peeking at them. It's like a nightmare come to life.
Then why o why not have security on the home ???
Yeah really messed up ! Give him the chair !
Thankyou Karen it’s great to see u both together
It was said that the roommates saw the bloody scene and became hysterical. They dialed 911 while running out of the house. A neighbor, walking by, saw them and was trying to communicate with them what happened. Before the roommate could say, she passed out. The passerby grabbed the phone and reported to the dispatcher that there was an unconscious person… meaning the roommate. He didn’t know what had taken place on the inside… This is what has been reported.
Love the way you talk and love your explanations. I live in Walla Walla (sounds like you were here in or before 1992) and we are about… less than 2 hours from Moscow and Pullman but everywhere between there and here in the Palouse is all small communities. You were right on about a lot of things!
I’ve visited Moscow, I also think that the path you show at the 1 hour and two minute marker (I think that was the point in this video) is where he entered the house. There’s a chain link fence, but no cameras on that path and a straight shot to the back slider. I’m sure you discuss this in more of your videos, so on to more of your stuff!
Very detailed and interesting! Thank you for all your guys time you put into this. This gives an entirely different view of the situation verses what we've seen from news and media outlets.
Wow! Unbelievable you spotted that glove when nobody else had. Even authorities and the ones working working the crime scene.
Love your joke of one glove😉 still only half way through the video but thanks again for sharing!
My favorite line: “…and if you’re watching, they’re coming” I laughed a victory laugh because I have faith that this creep is going down. Justice for Ethan, Zayna, Maddie and Kailey!
No camera footage from the police asking anyone if they recognize this person. This tells me it's someone that lives very close by. It's someone that can see the home. It's someone that didn't need a vehicle.
Not going to lie, when you showed that little staircase it gave me the creeps. Just a gut feeling. There are so many vantage points to watch the house from.. Hope they find this monster.
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Truly great reporting, videos very informative, Thank You So Very Much!!
Why is jeremy reagan talking again, I swear this neighbor is everywhere I am wondering why he insert himself everywhere
I agree his really made himself front and center in this case very strange behavior
Every video im watching he is mentionned because he stated something… the apartment complex he lives in is huge, i actually thought he lived there alone before seeing this video bc i didn’t have any notion of the area 🤨
Something is off about Jeremy Reagan
Kaylee's sister stated in an interview that video shows the girls were dropped off at 1:56 so either there is video footage we haven't been informed of or the driver had a dash cam or other video availability.
A gas station attendant reviewed security cam footage on their own and found the video of the car speeding away. Strange the police didn't find every cam and footage from everywhere nearby. Makes me wonder what they missed.
Why didn't they turn it in?
@@mmw5156 They did. That was one of the big breaks in the case.
@@SquawkCodeDid he turn in all the cars or just this speeding one?
Thankyou Chris and Karen for covering this case so well. I’m in the U.K. so we don’t get news updates on this, your coverage is very welcome, and you are both so respectful of the families of the victims which a lot of true crime channels arnt. I’m sure the families are grateful for all your help
Thank you both for your great insight and info. I am broken hearted for friends and family of victims.
This is the best video. I think it brings a lot of perspective on the perpetrator. This video gave me the chills. The home brings a darkness to me and it’s scary. The perpetrator knew the area and the victim’s routines. I am surprised there are no cameras In the back parking lot behind the house. They need to ramp up security and install street cams.
I live in Moscow, we are a small, friendly community with not much crime. I regularly see my friends and neighbors out in the community. This is the kind of place where lots of people don't lock their doors, let alone have security cameras or security systems.
Someone easily could have parked up there behind the house and sat in car and watch the house and easily got away unnoticed. Could be someone living in apartments too.
You never fail to impress. I cannot believe that glove situation! Wow. I feel like it was a great thing that you guys went there.. And not just for the unprecedented perspective.
Karen is a beauty with a beautiful disposition.
You guys are amazing and I love you & the TIR family 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
TY Amy, you are so kind!
I like your way of investigating, you look for every detail and you make good footages. Thank you for your work.
I really appreciate your work , and love your channel, thank you .
So nice of you
BTW my opinion on why the dog didn't seem to react is because that house is a very active house from what we are told. So the dog is accustomed to so many others being in the home that is becomes normal for "strangers" to be there. Now I don't think this suspect is a "stranger" to the girls but in their inner circle, but to the dog it's possible. I also think "he" may have been in the home before, unlocked that bedroom window of the spare room & possibly entered more then once & just linger in those empty/unused spaces. I feel those blocks by the window are used as a seat & the sitter can sort of hide behind the grill & charcoal bag & it's also their step coming in & out of the window.
It really really disturbing that they did not find that glove, since it was right by the garage can. Thank God you found it. I do realize they are a very small police department but that was a big miss in my opinion.
1. That glove not already being discovered is concerning. 2. That vacant room with bricks as a stepping stool very eerie. Could be a shorter male. 3. He could easily have unlocked that vacant window while attending a party or with a prior unknown break in, In preparation. Great coverage. Thank you. So tragic.
#3 really good point, I hadn’t thought of that
Could be a female. 🧐
@@Nikki30288 all profeciobals on case. Says man.
It’s so surreal seeing places I used to go when I was little with my grandparents on your show. They used to live in Lewiston. ❤
Great long video thanks for your time.
Did you talk with the neighbor named Jeremy?He’s been doing an awful lot of interviews which has caught my attention.
Yep. The law student gotta look at
He was not around.
That’s what I’m wondering
He's raised a lot of suspicion. Very odd behavior.
@@hotpinkthread yes that’s him. The one who’s done 3 interviews already.
It would be really interesting to see what the area looks like at 3:00 am, in the pitch dark in 20 degree weather. Are there any street lights? What houses are lit up? Just the string of lights at 1122?
Yes would be interesting to get an idea of it just how isolated it can be
May God give you and all the detectives on this case wisdom, knowledge, and understanding to help in the capture of this monster. He will be caught. Yvonne
Jeez this last shot, ur killing me. 4 beautiful lights God made. Brings tears to my eyes. Nice presentation. Thank you Chris and Karen.
Watched this on replay and SUBSCRIBED! I’m going to be a #1 fan I can tell already. You’re a great team and this was so informative. Thank you both for your dedication to solving these horrific tragedies.
@The Interview Room. The local police should have spotted that glove when they were taping the Crime Scene area. I have watched a number of videos about this crime, and this one is far and away the most helpful in thinking about it from the murderer’s perspective. You talked to the driver who had backed in his car. I doubt very much the local police have done that. You figured out the light was not working in the apartment building, and meanwhile it took the local police nine days to process the crime scene alone. Your video of the area where they walked and drove and lived really brings it home, we can see it through their eyes.
Any vibes about the neighbor who had backed in his car?
The police never had control of that scene. The roommates called their friends before calling the police and we don't know how many kids were traipsing around contaminating that scene. The glove you are referring to was NOT in the original pictures according to other websites. It was one of the technicians that dropped it.
Guy at the food truck, not hoodie guy who was with them, was also at the club. He noticed one girl hadn’t paid and told the truck owner, he noticed who they were with and when they left. He was trying to be a frat guy but clearly wasn’t. He went in for a hug from a girl when she hugged the man beside him, but was ignored. He was big enough to overpower one person while attacking another - sheer size, weight could immobilise two people. The police have said they checked out the guy at the food truck but was probably hoodie guy. Social awkwardness, rejection, desperate to fit in with young, hip crowd. The perpetrator was obviously enraged. Points to an inadequate-feeling male who uses fury against his victims. He has no doubt watched the girls for a lot longer than that night at the food truck and club. He knew where they lived. He’d scoped it all out. He is probably a local, not a college student.
I think he did it.
The big guy in tanned jacket? His name is Joe, he posted on TikTok. Most likely not him.
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You do realize that you could be sued fir making your slanderous "profiler" remarks. Keep your day job.
@@msw8839 you can't be serious. threatening people like this. are you connected to hoodie guy & big jacket guy
Thanks you so much for the time you have both spent covering this tragic case. I have been very disturbed by these senseless deaths. Sending love and respect from South Africa. Always watching your replays.
It’s terrible deaths and I feel the same, also from Cape Town South Africa
First time viewer and I am 💯 a fan!
Thank you so much for your years of service and all of your invaluable expertise!
Hope to see more shows!👏👏👏❤️
You know it still surprises me that nobody around has cameras on their home... I'm in a small safe town in Ohio and I have 4 just to watch my surroundings and a few of my neighbors same thing so when something happens in our neighborhood we all compare what footage we got if any... just kinda odd with how technology is these days but I'm also a single momma and need to see my surroundings... I even have one for just watching my car cause we do get break ins on vehicles...
It’s party lane. College kids don’t like cops and cameras
My sons who both live on the other side of that town never even lock their doors.
Like my Dad always said No one is concerned with home security until it's too late.
As far as the roommate saying another roommate was “unconscious “ and called a friend to come over , I was thinking that it’s possible that E & X or M or K were behind a locked door and not answering and the roommates knew that they were in there and not responding so they assumed they were unconscious or passed out? Called a friend to help them figure it out, still not answering from any of the other 4 people so the 911 call was for an unconscious person not answering the bedroom door? Bc I can’t think of any human that would notice a roommate on the floor and not a call to 911 with the amount of blood? It’s the only thing that makes sense to me
One of the surviving roommates saw Ethan in the kitchen, freaked out and ran outside while dialing 911, then fainted. A group (more than 1 person, but not sure how many exactly) heard her scream and saw her faint (unconscious), and grabbed her phone to talk to the 911 operator. So that’s why the initial 911 call was for an unconscious person. Then the rest of the people were found
Thank you Karen and Chris for this info
Outstanding video great job.
Imo he was by foot. Even he had a car, it would have increased the risk of being seen.
I think so too. It feels like someone really close. My eyes always wander to the apartments next door when I'm playing detective on google earth lol
Yep. Just a minute to his apartment
I hope you all noticed the dude sitting in his car that was watching you then walking around and as soon as you pointed the camera at him he walked away. No. Not the officer.
What time?
Could the griller used it as a seat or table to place things on. Also, could the students have removed the screen to pass things back and forth from the kitchen to the griller?
That's what I was thinking.
Hello to you. I came across your channel and watched your video on the Idaho Murders. I am so happy that it popped up on my “things to watch.” You are a combined class act and I look forward to to your next upload.
It was a crazy neighbor I firmly believe.