❗Common Questions❗ 1. Grandfather vs Normal Weapon - GF Calculated by Wu Wang to be less damage than a polearm 2. Vulnerable : CSD ratio - According to Wu Wang, the best ratio is 0.6:1 meaning you need 600% for 1000% CSD, which increases lineary and thus the more CSD you have, the more vulnerable you need to match it ❗IMPORTANT❗And for 2000% CSD you would need around 1400% Vuln (0.7:1 ratio) so You might need Vulnerable temper on one of the 2H and masterwork it 3. STR vs HP gems in armor - Balance it out based on your own experience 💪 with my Flay build I run all STR gems and no HP in T150+ runs 💪 4. Consumables - For SPEEDFARMING we want Momentum Elixir for zoom zoom zoom 😂 5. Rotation - Spam the sh*t out of WW (don't keep it pressed down) 😂 and pop cooldowns whenever up 6. How to get CSD or Vulnerable tempers - You need to make a rogue to temper it there 7. Heavy Handed vs Cut to the Bone - HH boosts our direct damage as well = Dust Devils, Tyrael and, if you use them, Holy Bolts do more damage. Cut to the Bone is more PURE bleed damage.
I like the look of this but not sure about changing from Robs current WW build. The boss damage from the video doesn't seem to be much quicker than my current clears which is the only weakness of WW obviously.
Yo mate! The big difference is that I have some ali express gear 😂 no masterworks, no heavy handed or cut to the bone amulet, low roll on berserking on ring (so I miss a bit to reach the cap) etc. Because the main point is to show people, that they can start playing barb today and make it work 💪 With double GA items, more vulnerable and the passives on amulet we can go for a good 50% dps increase. WW's weakness is definitely the boss damage in high pits. If you want to skyrocket the damage of this build against bosses, you can use normal boots with War Cry, STR and Movement speed for speedfarming, reposition Relentless berserk from Gloves to boots and use Accursed Touch on gloves. That will give you never ending vulnerable on the boss. That allows us to not play Kick, but instead move the points from kick and battle fervor to fury gen while berserking for more devillish tornadoes and slap on Rupture which we get for from Shako to consume the bleeds once they reach bosses full HP for some EXTREME fast boss kills. Or just use my normal Tibault's Will build (in the dropdown menu) which is focused on pushing and has way more damage at the cost of low mobility. (it is not meant for speedfarm).
I’m glad I was able to help you out mate 😍 ww build is best when we look at the amount of fun and speed at which it can clear Helltides and 100s pits for materials. If you are into 160 pit push, defo go flay 💪🏻
I don't really foresee any future chance for me to get a Tyrael's chest, that being said, what would be a replacement for it, if we got everything else ?
Hey! I suggest farming Tormented Zir if you need ubers. He drops quite a lot and you just salvage them for sparks 💪 you can also make an alt character and finish the Iron Wolves reputation quest, which will award you tons of uber boss materials for summoning and resplended spark at the end as well. (Repeatable) But there is the no uber version of the build 😁 just slap on normal chest with GA elemental resistances, STR and fury per second. And put on Iron Blood aspect to make up for the loss of DR 💪
@Lunatalli the 1st uber I dropped this season was Tyrael's, and since I had 3 sparks and shako was the one used in all build, I sacrificed it... About a week later, the chest is a must in any meta build🙈
@@lucianm5459 Nah, dw :) it is only used for WW speedfarming really. For meta push builds, we do not need it. With normal chest and just using holy bolts + the amount of tornadoes we get, you are gucci to speed farm 100s 💪💪
Hey ^^ Dust Devil damage gets scaled through inner calm and elements, yes 💪 last season it was said edgemaster as well, but it was retested and edgemasters does not buff it 😁
Can you please explain the crit and vuln ratio a bit more of possible? For example, why wouldn't I want to have higher crit damage? Is it specifically for flay, or all bleed builds (bash bleed, ww bleed, etc). I find it really hard to get 0.7:1 ratio with GF
Bash is a little different, because Bash itself can hit for hundreds of mil and thus it benefits from CSD on its own to boost its direct damage. Anything else though does not. Berserk Ripping does not benefit from crits or overpowers, it is based on “base damage” only and thus crit strike damage does nothing apart from GW (which of course is still good, but then you only have a multiplier, but no additives to boost the base damage and thus you are multiplying “zero”) While vulnerable is both additive AND multiplicative so its value is way higher. Use the calculator I included in the description (you can choose GF there as well) and you will see 😁 There is also the thing called “real CSD” which is our actual CSD before GF tinkers with the stat sheet. The reason we call it real is that GF does not actually increase CSD additive stat, it’s a separate multiplier of 100%(x) when we crit and that multiplier works for GW as well 😁
Saludos desde Costa Rica, excelente video hermano Te Felicito. Una consulta, por que tiene puntos en la pasiva Líder de incursión, lo que entiendo es para curar a tus aliados. En que le beneficia esa pasiva a uno como jugador solitario
Hey mate 😁 I definitely can do that when I get home 💪🏻 though with my Ali express gear it won’t be as much as this build can achieve 😂🙈 it can do 1bil DoT even
That is what we play in the Tibault’s Will version for pushing, but don’t need on speed farm version (everything dies under 3 seconds of exploit and against the boss we got kick to apply vulnerable as well as proc zerking) 💪🏻
Does COA ulti procs the aspects you have like u have whirlwind produce dust devils? Aspect of Ancestral Echoes also this does this procs leap aspect that create earthquake..
Thanks so much mate! 😍 What a kind comment! CoA by itself does not produce the whirlwind thought aspects, BUT the whirlwind produced through Arreat's Bearing pants DO get buffed by our tempers 💪 Haven't tested Aspect of Ancestral Echoes as there were more crucial aspects to the build, but might do so in the future :)
@@Lunatalli yeah im stumped, went through paragon board to see if anything was off, nothing, lvl100, 6 to heavy handed, masterworked tyriels, masterworkded starless, (total stock Arreat), even holybolts, 50k life, ive stumped, 300 dam w berserk... i think i got 70% crit chance . is that to low?
Honestly? No idea 😂 I have dmg numbers turned off with this build as you can’t even see where you are going with them on 😂 On dummies 500m, but my gear is really bad and I have no passives on amulet etc. could likely go around 1 bil with proper gear.
Personally I would advise against leap on a controller ahaha. I hate it 😂🙈 It kinda loses the value without MKB and its precise targetting where to jump, thus jumping over walls etc. Also, Earthquake and Brumble glyph are getting capped in S5, so I think the best bet for us controller gamers is chilling and having fun with Spin2Win 😁
@@Lunatalli I’m glib to be stuck on S4 as I play on a console. Was wondering about kick as it allows to maintain berserking. How do you maintain it with kick? Also can the push version use Yens?
@@vish1339 I pretty much only use kick against the boss :) all the other time it is relentless berserker that keeps me zerking with superh igh uptime on War Cry. Yens are way less DPS than normal boots with War Cry ranks, but doable :)
Several billion dmg. Flay is mostly is just rupturing. If you don’t have a long Flay duration the damage won’t stack as well and your rupture’s multiplicative damage won’t be as high.
That can very well be possible 😂 I am lazy to farm better gear than 1, max 2 GA or masterwork. My actual barb is like half of the power of the planner.
Wrath of the Berserker does not provide all that much damage buff with WW 😁 and especially since we are no longer play unconstrained, which is what we need for WotB to really shine (The only exception being HotA with Unbridled Rage to proc it nearly instantly, but we do not play HotA anymore). Also because we are playing Ring of Starless skies, we hardly spend any fury and so it takes a long time for WotB to even take its full effect. Because they fixed the snapshot where WotB stayed for the entirety of the instance, it is a DPS loss compared to Ancients 💪 especially because ancients give you a lot of extra direct damage which proc Berserk Ripping and have much higher uptime.
@@vitoat123 kick against the boss, against the mobs it pretty much never falls down 😁 that is why we play berserking duration to extend berserking gain from relentless as well as berserking from blood rage nodes and kick 😁 yen’s blessing boots also keep popping our CDs. WotB really is just a DPS loss for bleed WW 💪🏻
@@Lunatalli oh mb i guess that brawling skills give berserk is op... nice i need to try that. I played something like this and didnt have berserk and just did no damage
Berserk Ripping scales from base damage and HotA is based around crits and overpowers, which don't affect Berserk Ripping. If you wanted to play HotA, I would just go full HotA to be honest. But I have not tried one yet this season 😁
@@Gjutsu i would love to, but getting even just double GA items which are pretty much needed for super high pit push are soooo expensive that there is no way I can ever get them 🥲 blizzard made the game very alt and casual unfriendly
Nope 😁 you can see the Chinese tests for yourself. Math does not lie 💪🏻 GF is overall “poop” weapon this season 😂 but hey, most people won’t know the difference, so it does not really matter 😁
❗Common Questions❗
1. Grandfather vs Normal Weapon - GF Calculated by Wu Wang to be less damage than a polearm
2. Vulnerable : CSD ratio - According to Wu Wang, the best ratio is 0.6:1 meaning you need 600% for 1000% CSD, which increases lineary and thus the more CSD you have, the more vulnerable you need to match it
❗IMPORTANT❗And for 2000% CSD you would need around 1400% Vuln (0.7:1 ratio) so You might need Vulnerable temper on one of the 2H and masterwork it
3. STR vs HP gems in armor - Balance it out based on your own experience 💪 with my Flay build I run all STR gems and no HP in T150+ runs 💪
4. Consumables - For SPEEDFARMING we want Momentum Elixir for zoom zoom zoom 😂
5. Rotation - Spam the sh*t out of WW (don't keep it pressed down) 😂 and pop cooldowns whenever up
6. How to get CSD or Vulnerable tempers - You need to make a rogue to temper it there
7. Heavy Handed vs Cut to the Bone - HH boosts our direct damage as well = Dust Devils, Tyrael and, if you use them, Holy Bolts do more damage. Cut to the Bone is more PURE bleed damage.
Actually I find using an 2H AXE is also quite good for the 10% extra crit chance and crit damage multiplier with the rune
for number 1: How much exacly is "Less damage" if it is small, not worth it just slap the grand and u r done with way more HP
Where can I reference Wu Wangs calculation or builds?
@@mustbe.sonny. probably some Chinese site, I don’t think he even speaks English. It’s just translations I found online 💪🏻
@@WilliamLeGod quit a bit actually. Definitely 20%+ upto like 50% which is a lot when we talk in billions 😁
Thank you for your builds bro I’m doing a ww now for speed runs have my flay for pit pushes👌😎👊
I am glad you like them mate 😍
@@Lunatalli same using ww for speed runs :D, and your flay build for pushing.
A je to tady na to jsem cekal az udelas WW build pecka jako vzdy !!!!
Dík haha 💪🏻 WW je úplně mega fun 😂
we need this bleed knowledge back in sanctuary! Join back man.
Haha thanks for your kind words mate 🥰
Luna as always turning good builds into the best builds!
You are a sweet talker 😍
Flay for the win
Thanks bro am copying rigth now this build❤
I’m glad you like it mate! 💪🏻
In your video, the two handed mace has only one tempering"chance for dust devils", but how did you master working upto 12?
Please make a video showing exactly the dmg difference between GF and Polearm
Sure mate! Will do ^^
I like the look of this but not sure about changing from Robs current WW build. The boss damage from the video doesn't seem to be much quicker than my current clears which is the only weakness of WW obviously.
Yep, that's the big weakness of WW. Outside of berserk windows with berserk ripping single target kinda sucks. Still can comfy clear a 130 pit.
Yo mate!
The big difference is that I have some ali express gear 😂 no masterworks, no heavy handed or cut to the bone amulet, low roll on berserking on ring (so I miss a bit to reach the cap) etc. Because the main point is to show people, that they can start playing barb today and make it work 💪 With double GA items, more vulnerable and the passives on amulet we can go for a good 50% dps increase.
WW's weakness is definitely the boss damage in high pits. If you want to skyrocket the damage of this build against bosses, you can use normal boots with War Cry, STR and Movement speed for speedfarming, reposition Relentless berserk from Gloves to boots and use Accursed Touch on gloves. That will give you never ending vulnerable on the boss. That allows us to not play Kick, but instead move the points from kick and battle fervor to fury gen while berserking for more devillish tornadoes and slap on Rupture which we get for from Shako to consume the bleeds once they reach bosses full HP for some EXTREME fast boss kills.
Or just use my normal Tibault's Will build (in the dropdown menu) which is focused on pushing and has way more damage at the cost of low mobility. (it is not meant for speedfarm).
I learn a lot from you and I'm looking for the perfect set to build Flay and Ruptura. Is it worth stopping everything now to do this WW build?
I’m glad I was able to help you out mate 😍 ww build is best when we look at the amount of fun and speed at which it can clear Helltides and 100s pits for materials. If you are into 160 pit push, defo go flay 💪🏻
I don't really foresee any future chance for me to get a Tyrael's chest, that being said, what would be a replacement for it, if we got everything else ?
Hey! I suggest farming Tormented Zir if you need ubers. He drops quite a lot and you just salvage them for sparks 💪 you can also make an alt character and finish the Iron Wolves reputation quest, which will award you tons of uber boss materials for summoning and resplended spark at the end as well. (Repeatable)
But there is the no uber version of the build 😁 just slap on normal chest with GA elemental resistances, STR and fury per second. And put on Iron Blood aspect to make up for the loss of DR 💪
@Lunatalli the 1st uber I dropped this season was Tyrael's, and since I had 3 sparks and shako was the one used in all build, I sacrificed it...
About a week later, the chest is a must in any meta build🙈
@@lucianm5459 Nah, dw :) it is only used for WW speedfarming really. For meta push builds, we do not need it. With normal chest and just using holy bolts + the amount of tornadoes we get, you are gucci to speed farm 100s 💪💪
Which aspects scale dust devils damage? Do edgemaster, inner calm, or elements scale dust devil at all? Thanks!
Hey ^^ Dust Devil damage gets scaled through inner calm and elements, yes 💪 last season it was said edgemaster as well, but it was retested and edgemasters does not buff it 😁
Can you please explain the crit and vuln ratio a bit more of possible?
For example, why wouldn't I want to have higher crit damage? Is it specifically for flay, or all bleed builds (bash bleed, ww bleed, etc). I find it really hard to get 0.7:1 ratio with GF
Bash is a little different, because Bash itself can hit for hundreds of mil and thus it benefits from CSD on its own to boost its direct damage.
Anything else though does not. Berserk Ripping does not benefit from crits or overpowers, it is based on “base damage” only and thus crit strike damage does nothing apart from GW (which of course is still good, but then you only have a multiplier, but no additives to boost the base damage and thus you are multiplying “zero”)
While vulnerable is both additive AND multiplicative so its value is way higher. Use the calculator I included in the description (you can choose GF there as well) and you will see 😁
There is also the thing called “real CSD” which is our actual CSD before GF tinkers with the stat sheet. The reason we call it real is that GF does not actually increase CSD additive stat, it’s a separate multiplier of 100%(x) when we crit and that multiplier works for GW as well 😁
There’s a guy hitting 1b bleed ticks with polearm ww so gf is now just a band aid.
That is monstrous bleed 😂 considering it is WW
How about mace with the 1.15 multi inour skilltree? Rob says to run mace
Not for bleeds 💪🏻 they don’t scale with wallop passive. And mace passive does not scale with gushing wounds. Mace is only for direct damage build 😁
Saludos desde Costa Rica, excelente video hermano Te Felicito.
Una consulta, por que tiene puntos en la pasiva Líder de incursión, lo que entiendo es para curar a tus aliados.
En que le beneficia esa pasiva a uno como jugador solitario
¡Hola compañero y gracias!
La pasiva también nos cura incluso cuando estamos solos en el grupo 💪
@@Lunatalli pero si jugamos en solitario también nos cura
Can you put it to the dummy test i wanna see the max bleed damage output !
Hey mate 😁 I definitely can do that when I get home 💪🏻 though with my Ali express gear it won’t be as much as this build can achieve 😂🙈 it can do 1bil DoT even
Why no LHC: Chance to make Vulnerable ring?
That is what we play in the Tibault’s Will version for pushing, but don’t need on speed farm version (everything dies under 3 seconds of exploit and against the boss we got kick to apply vulnerable as well as proc zerking) 💪🏻
Does COA ulti procs the aspects you have like u have whirlwind produce dust devils?
Aspect of Ancestral Echoes also this does this procs leap aspect that create earthquake..
also btw you are my fav diablo content creator
Thanks so much mate! 😍 What a kind comment! CoA by itself does not produce the whirlwind thought aspects, BUT the whirlwind produced through Arreat's Bearing pants DO get buffed by our tempers 💪
Haven't tested Aspect of Ancestral Echoes as there were more crucial aspects to the build, but might do so in the future :)
i just cant get this build to make bleeds, 1M max. can it be because i only get 99% x on hemmorage?
bloodrage is 30..
That is weird. 1m is what you can do at level like 70 😅🤔
@@Lunatalli yeah im stumped, went through paragon board to see if anything was off, nothing, lvl100, 6 to heavy handed, masterworked tyriels, masterworkded starless, (total stock Arreat), even holybolts, 50k life, ive stumped, 300 dam w berserk...
i think i got 70% crit chance . is that to low?
@@AngryNorwegianFisherman we want 75+ for sure, but … 1 mil is still weird 😅 more like impossible :D
I cant Open the Planner, link doesnt work :(
Weird. I just tried it and works fine on my phone 🤔
Which weapon expertise?
Expertise = axe. Weapon for skills = polearm 💪🏻
Thx sir
@@raferileyuo9675 2H axe. Forgot to specify, sorry 😁
How much bleed dmg u do on boss with this ww built?
Honestly? No idea 😂 I have dmg numbers turned off with this build as you can’t even see where you are going with them on 😂
On dummies 500m, but my gear is really bad and I have no passives on amulet etc. could likely go around 1 bil with proper gear.
Could you make a setup using leap for us controller users as we can't leap spam?
Personally I would advise against leap on a controller ahaha. I hate it 😂🙈 It kinda loses the value without MKB and its precise targetting where to jump, thus jumping over walls etc. Also, Earthquake and Brumble glyph are getting capped in S5, so I think the best bet for us controller gamers is chilling and having fun with Spin2Win 😁
@@Lunatalli I’m glib to be stuck on S4 as I play on a console.
Was wondering about kick as it allows to maintain berserking. How do you maintain it with kick?
Also can the push version use Yens?
@@vish1339 I pretty much only use kick against the boss :) all the other time it is relentless berserker that keeps me zerking with superh igh uptime on War Cry.
Yens are way less DPS than normal boots with War Cry ranks, but doable :)
@@Lunatalli Ah I see. Any chance you could make a GF version as mine is sitting ignored lol.
how big is the margin between GF vs polearm?
Several billion dmg. Flay is mostly is just rupturing. If you don’t have a long Flay duration the damage won’t stack as well and your rupture’s multiplicative damage won’t be as high.
It’s whirlwind not flay. Gf on ww is about 500m min maxed. Polearm on ww is 1b min maxed.
Monster big 😂 20% minimum. More like 50%
How fast can non-Uber version speed farm Pit 101?
A bit slower but not by a big margin really 😁 2 minutes tops
Cool! I’ll try the non-Uber version with my Shako, will it work?
@@tj1610 it will! 😁 just move relentless berserker to gloves and accursed touch on a ring - replace bear clan berserker aspect. 💪🏻
I think ur barb is weaker than my barbarian
That can very well be possible 😂 I am lazy to farm better gear than 1, max 2 GA or masterwork. My actual barb is like half of the power of the planner.
Call of the ancients is obsolete. All your damage is during berserking. Wrath of the berserker is better
Wrath of the Berserker does not provide all that much damage buff with WW 😁 and especially since we are no longer play unconstrained, which is what we need for WotB to really shine (The only exception being HotA with Unbridled Rage to proc it nearly instantly, but we do not play HotA anymore). Also because we are playing Ring of Starless skies, we hardly spend any fury and so it takes a long time for WotB to even take its full effect. Because they fixed the snapshot where WotB stayed for the entirety of the instance, it is a DPS loss compared to Ancients 💪 especially because ancients give you a lot of extra direct damage which proc Berserk Ripping and have much higher uptime.
@@Lunatalli How can you enter berserking besides war cry and it extending
?
Kick
@@vitoat123 kick against the boss, against the mobs it pretty much never falls down 😁 that is why we play berserking duration to extend berserking gain from relentless as well as berserking from blood rage nodes and kick 😁 yen’s blessing boots also keep popping our CDs. WotB really is just a DPS loss for bleed WW 💪🏻
@@Lunatalli oh mb i guess that brawling skills give berserk is op... nice i need to try that. I played something like this and didnt have berserk and just did no damage
hota bleed possible in high pit?
Berserk Ripping scales from base damage and HotA is based around crits and overpowers, which don't affect Berserk Ripping. If you wanted to play HotA, I would just go full HotA to be honest. But I have not tried one yet this season 😁
@@Lunatalli please make hota build for high pit before ending this season. im wondering upto which tier it can reach in pit
@@Gjutsu i would love to, but getting even just double GA items which are pretty much needed for super high pit push are soooo expensive that there is no way I can ever get them 🥲 blizzard made the game very alt and casual unfriendly
@@Lunatalli im wishing u get those items that you need to push more in pit. by the way i like your music in your vid😎
no regen fury xd !
No idea what you mean by that in a build that is perma at 100%, but I am glad for the comment 😂🥰
Grandfather is better for ww don’t be spreading wrong information
Nope 😁 you can see the Chinese tests for yourself. Math does not lie 💪🏻 GF is overall “poop” weapon this season 😂 but hey, most people won’t know the difference, so it does not really matter 😁