Why Yoda Banished a Group of Jedi Padawans from the Order Star Wars Explained

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  • @Supreme0757
    @Supreme0757 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    A bit off topic but one thing I wish could be discussed among fans is the difference between the Jedi who follow the light. You had many extremely powerful Jedi who were aligned to the light but few had a strong relationship with the living force. I use “relationship” specifically so it’s not confused with connection. Individuals like Yoda and Mace Windu were deeply aligned to the light but their relationship to the living force was compromised due to their top priority of the Jedi code and/or the republic. Qui Gonn is the biggest example of this but he wasn’t alone. Jedi master Faye, Anya Kuro, Plo Koon, Jon Antilles, Revan and most importantly Luke Skywalker himself. They all had a pure and deep relationship to the force
    Dark side is a pathway to many abilities just like Sidious said but it’s not only the dark side. The light side has just as much if not more but it takes a level of devotion and patience a lot of individuals don’t have. Many individuals who prioritized the will of the force over anything and let it guide their actions opened themselves to abilities either rare or almost unattainable by most other Jedi.
    Jedi master faye( Nigh immortality)
    Qui Gonn Jin( attained Force ghost eventually teaching it to yoda)
    Nomi Sun Rider( Force light one of the most OP force abilities in the verse)
    Anya Kuro( Force teleport)
    And Luke himself knew and mastered all those along with dozens more minus near immortality.
    Luke even allowed love, attachments, and relationships into his new Jedi order. If they had someone like Qui Gonn as the grandmaster of the order years leading up to order 66 things may have turned out different. Sidious could shroud himself among even the masters but doing it around Qui Gonn sooner or later would have unveiled both him and his plans. Qui Gonn would have most likely intuitively picked up on it or saw visions but the story played out differently. The Jedi’s downfall was not order 66 the Jedi’s downfall was when they prioritized duty, codes, and politics over communing with the living force. The dark side doesn’t always come brandishing a red lightsaber and lightning that can scorch flesh. It can sprout by simply giving your focus and energy into things that you simply ought not to consistently.

    • @LordWyatt
      @LordWyatt 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nailed it.
      Luke: *Is* the Dark side stronger?
      Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive…

  • @Danny___Riot
    @Danny___Riot หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I love learning stuff about Yoda.

    • @creep-E81HK
      @creep-E81HK หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

    • @charlestaylor253
      @charlestaylor253 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mysterious, both he and his species are...

    • @Danny___Riot
      @Danny___Riot หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@charlestaylor253 Correct, that statement is…

    • @MikeJones-mf2fw
      @MikeJones-mf2fw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He has always been my favorite fictional character, even before my recent falling down the Star Wars rabbit hole of lore. Grogu got me hooked.

  • @TsukabuNosoratori2
    @TsukabuNosoratori2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I think he was correct. After all- the path to evil is often littered with good intentions. But I also believe he was correct in not killing them. And calling them "Gray Jedi". I believe it was a show of mercy.

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      and yet, it failed when Yoda was put to the test on this very issue.

    • @r2doucebag595
      @r2doucebag595 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The greatest harm can result from the best intentions. Terry Goodkind: Stone of Tears

  • @chadflanaganCFC
    @chadflanaganCFC หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yoda was absolutely correct to banish the Pentantium(probably butchered that name.) Jedi their philosophy can be summed up perfectly with this line "The path to hell is lined with good intentions." The dark side corrupts everything it touches, I mean look at Count Dooku he didn't turn to the Sith for greed or a lust for power he just wanted to make a less corrupt government and it totally corrupted him until he became even more corrupt than the government he was opposing, I imagine that's how dangerous Pentantium's philosophy is.

  • @a.d.clarke4990
    @a.d.clarke4990 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    😂 Evil Yoda Goblin thumbnail. 😂

  • @joshrobinson2409
    @joshrobinson2409 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    No power is inherently good or evil it is about the individual useing it the power itself is indifferent its just there for people to use power itself is a manifestation of your intent

  • @robgilmour3147
    @robgilmour3147 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    darth bane followed Potentium, he didn't call it that but he didn't believe in any dark or light side, just the force and how you control it to your will.

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I heard it was because they pranked him by dismantling his cruiser and then completely rebuilding it in his office.
    To be honest, their belief sounds like it makes more sense than the Jedi council.

  • @richietribe9487
    @richietribe9487 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    That philosophy sounds like what that Acolyte writer lady is trying to preach

    • @chunxofun1333
      @chunxofun1333 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      We don’t do that here

    • @kyledabearsfan
      @kyledabearsfan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Please don't ruin good star wars with bad star wars lol

    • @ericringer597
      @ericringer597 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      they are evil lol.

  • @cheekibreeki5434
    @cheekibreeki5434 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That means that they prolly still out there after order 66 and outlived the jedi

    • @aliastheabnormal
      @aliastheabnormal หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If they didn't go insane like Darth Millennial.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Darth Mellenial 😁😁😁 hey guys we have a Sith named after us! 😅

  • @commanderchaos5670
    @commanderchaos5670 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Is Yaddle wearing a Horde symbol from World of Warcraft on her necklace?

    • @timtriumph1455
      @timtriumph1455 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YES

    • @dvationz959
      @dvationz959 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be correct lol

  • @jwappel3068
    @jwappel3068 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This philosophy makes sense to me tbh.

    • @LetholdusKaspyr
      @LetholdusKaspyr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The part where it breaks for me is that even if it is true that the Dark Side is within the self and not the Force, that doesn't change that they were embracing the Dark Side.

    • @darrelltblake
      @darrelltblake หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LetholdusKaspyrThe Jedi committed acts of evil in the name of protecting people from the dark side. The only conclusion I could draw after consuming a lot of star wars material is that using the force will lead to the dark side because humans are flawed. The force itself will push the dark side when the light becomes too strong and things are out of balance. The delusion is not recognizing that the dark side can't be defeated and must be lived with.

  • @charlestaylor253
    @charlestaylor253 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nightmare fuel Yoda in the thumbnail...🤪

  • @ablazeinferno7271
    @ablazeinferno7271 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pentantium mainly means "Lurkworm of the Force" they could be called as undecided force users or the Yin/Yan users of the force.

  • @ghostface4404
    @ghostface4404 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    he was incorrect. but, there were flaws in the ideology. I believe that this group reached a cornerstone but it needed more polishing.

  • @erikjager4704
    @erikjager4704 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Some of the Stars Wars philosophy is quite contrary to itself. Take the The Sith of Rule of Two for example. The more powerful dark side can only have two Sith Lords doesn't seem very powerful. Also, the part of killing your master wouldn't be a good way of transforming information. Why would the master teach his own killer?

    • @TaraCicora
      @TaraCicora หลายเดือนก่อน

      Strange things like that I always chalk up to sentient beings attempting to understand the force but still being limited by the fact that we are all fallible and can never truly understand those certain things.

    • @diegestrandetekokosnuss5865
      @diegestrandetekokosnuss5865 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The dark Site can have more. Just as much as the light. Thats the hole point of star wars. That everything needs to be in balance. The reason behind the rule of two is to concentrate all of the dark site in 2 individuals, so that they are way more powerful, then they would be, if there were thousends of them. Witch makes sence, since sith didnt like team work very much.
      Oh and the master would let the student kill him, because of religion. The Sith are a fcking cult of fanatics, that got mad in the persud of power. xD

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diegestrandetekokosnuss5865 the Dark Side offers not only power but truth.

    • @diegestrandetekokosnuss5865
      @diegestrandetekokosnuss5865 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ghostface4404 yeah, i never sad somthing else. My point is about the sith. Sith only seek truth to gain power.

    • @ghostface4404
      @ghostface4404 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diegestrandetekokosnuss5865 I don't think that there's anything necessarily wrong with that -- certainly not if you're trying to protect others. The Jedi were never up to the task. This is why I push for something new -- the Mandalorians.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This sounds more like what the Ancient Jedi thought. An this faction sounds like they was trying to perfect it not just stagnate like the Orthodox Jedi.. an the Sith I agree woulda HATED them... perhaps even MORE had this faction ACTUALLY made it working...a huge issue with both factions is that they both think THEY ONLY got it right.. an probably 1 the reasons the Force itself elected to LITERALLY have both Factions EXTERMINATED. This is why I totally think "Grey" Jedi not only exist BUT are actually the STRONGEST Force users.. trying to walk the middle ground like they Ancient Ancestors an know that THEY are responsible for their own actions an EVERY ability, Force Lightning an Force Heal, or Push alike are no more tools then their Sabers, Starship or a good Blaster.. always thought this is where the Jedi started seriously messing up

  • @JamieAustin-lj8wb
    @JamieAustin-lj8wb หลายเดือนก่อน

    The truth is it is neither no light nor dark but also light and dark at the same time it is like how some things happen but don't happen at the same time

  • @GGBlaster
    @GGBlaster หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Say… could The Acolyte be a kind of retcon of Potentium? Just my shower thoughts

  • @lordmaul3
    @lordmaul3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like they had the philosophy that Force Abilities/Powers weren't inherently good or evil, it's how the person using them. This is a similar philosophy Kyle Katarn had.

  • @daveonwheeler7412
    @daveonwheeler7412 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When did he do that?

  • @wedgeantillies66
    @wedgeantillies66 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Although it was a very interesting and compelling idea as a theory about the force and ones uses of it. However to me, it always felt like a coop out on behalf of light side users to excuse them going towards the dark side and committing acts of wanton violence and destruction and excuse themselves with excuse oh they did what they did with good intentions.

  • @timothysibson5370
    @timothysibson5370 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They went to Zonoma Sekot? The moving world?

  • @mais1tuga
    @mais1tuga หลายเดือนก่อน

    really nice, really similar to the Je'daii order point of view....

  • @stilesmcswain3991
    @stilesmcswain3991 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like yet another dope philosophy that could've existed in the sequels.

  • @Foppopski
    @Foppopski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does Yoda have a necklace of The Horde at the start? XD

  • @TV14greaterthanPG
    @TV14greaterthanPG หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this channel so much... We can only wonder what if after getting his own ship and private island, if Darth Vader form a new suit like Galen Marik (Starkiller) behind Palpatine

  • @wesjames8327
    @wesjames8327 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🖖

  • @sithwarriortank8472
    @sithwarriortank8472 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you say Zonoma Sekot?

  • @thomasparque7834
    @thomasparque7834 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think this ideal they had was flawed in someways more flawed then the Brotherhood of Darkness’ ideas for the Sith. It is in someways saying a Jedi can do what they want if they mean well and that should not be held account for them. There is some good points to their frame of mind if Jedi were taught to understand, face and conquer their innner darkness they will be stronger in the light

  • @jaredquinney204
    @jaredquinney204 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What does that mean

  • @The_Lucent_Archangel
    @The_Lucent_Archangel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Realistically it makes more sense than a simple stark binary. But the franchise even in the old EU days tended to favor this-or-that thinking for a few reasons. Whereas today the reasoning is by purists who shallowly believe that moral absolutism doesn't allow for an individual's sense of justice to fuel righteous anger. Or that vengeance and ambition for power can't possibly align with a greater will toward positive ends. Well, that and the "fans", "writers", and "content creators" who call it a "cop out" or consider it too overpowered and lacking a "catch". The catch is constant vigilance lest one be led by avarice rather than what is objectively right.

  • @LetholdusKaspyr
    @LetholdusKaspyr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was with them when they said that the Dark Side was within the self, not the Force. When they used that to justify embracing the Dark Side, I backed away quickly. It just means that it was their own arrogance, not an external influence, turning them to the Dark Side.

  • @jonnovember2136
    @jonnovember2136 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These padawan were never going to be in possession of #MeridianCU💳 card and due to lack of balance in the force... 🌎💘💰

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating.

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I completely agree. Potentium is extremely dangerous. Using dark side with good intentions is impossible. Force Choke,Force lightning. Both Jedi and Sith are right. May the Force be with you too😊

  • @williamhadley1580
    @williamhadley1580 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And yet...Vapad

  • @AdamFionaRaffell
    @AdamFionaRaffell หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi

  • @samuelrobles3737
    @samuelrobles3737 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Day 483 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

  • @dondahlen1654
    @dondahlen1654 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hold up. I never heard of this. I want to hear what happened with Luke in this story. It's been going on 20 years since I read legends books and I don't remember any of that. I hate how Disney and Lucas messed changed the time line. Legends was way better than the nonsense they put out now.

  • @darthbane418
    @darthbane418 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No the darkside is a corruption of the force it isnt the force

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NNNNNNOOOOOOO

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    *Standing over a dead Jedi with a smoking Slug Thrower*
    “An elegant weapon for a more civilized time, eh? Well, guess what? Times have changed!“

  • @spark300c
    @spark300c 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the truth is there the force and then there is the dark side. the dark side is imbalanced use of the force. imblanlanced use is using the force for you own will over the forces will. balance is force of nature are in blance. in person it balance with one emotions.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😁

  • @user-cl5vx9em4e
    @user-cl5vx9em4e หลายเดือนก่อน

    These "grey Jedi" were closer to the original, if they were hanging around how would the council insure on destroying everything.

  • @BlueAversion
    @BlueAversion หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kids, say no to subscribe beggars

  • @MikeJones-mf2fw
    @MikeJones-mf2fw หลายเดือนก่อน

    Potentium sounds exactly like communism 😂

  • @jibril2473
    @jibril2473 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s another “gotta cater to my darkside fanboys today by hating on Jedi” video

  • @HiredGun2987
    @HiredGun2987 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They were smoking Fentanyl at Taco Bell.