guys this is NOT a federal case they literally said that in the video these are private invetigators theres just a big natural community of people who are interested in solving this case but everyone likes him its not like they are going to put a case against him hes probly already dead yall reall goofy
@@2pugman Whomever they say did it will be wrong. The real DB Copper died from throat cancer years ago. Chain smoking Raleigh cigarettes will do that to ya. He died in Canada where him and his wife moved to...
Omg so you're telling me that they found a trace of metal on his tie that is known to be used on the same kind of airplanes that DB Cooper hijacked??? This must be groundbreaking, he MUST have worked for Boeing... Or maybe his tie brushed up against some metal while he was on the plane to begin with. This tells us nothing. It's like saying the person that stole the cookie from the cookie jar must have worked at the bakery because you found crumbs on the glove he left behind.
They found titanium inside of the cabin though. I had the same thought, maybe the entry door components. Too expensive to be used in the cabin where cheaper metals are available. I'd hope this researcher looked up what parts used that metal and ruled out the possibility.
That's what I thought at first. But after reading through the comments it is clear that titanium is not common in the passenger area of planes. Especially if you factor in how long the plane had been in service. If it had been cleaned many times it would be unlikely to retain debris from the manufacturing process. But we are talking about dust, so it is possible that it came from the plane. Also, it isn't enough to prove anything. The banking records for the man they named will be long gone, retention by the bank itself is only seven years. But if he just used the cash slowly then there would be no way to prove it.
They traced the particle back to the company that makes that metal for the plane he was on. Actually the particle probably came from the 727 itself that DB Cooper was on; he didn't have to work at the factory; he was onboard the plane and probably the tie somehow picked up the particle from the plane itself. I.e. this "evidence" is worthless.
I think there were many particles, not just one. Being a passenger in a 727 wouldn't expose you to exotic metals because these are only used in the engine. Also small particles occur during manufacture, not so much the operation of the engines. So the evidence is somewhat compelling.
@@microdesigns2000 Could be he went to the same bathroom as one of the mechanics at some point, may have brushed against someone that manufactures engines. The dust from construction and destruction are similar, not identical I'll grant you, but operation and repair are a bit different.
The media doesn't really want to solve the the case because that would end the mystery. I would put my money on Richard Floyd Mc Coy. I worked with one of the Pilot crew members that testified at McCoy's trial and he said that both the FBI and the Judge felt that he was "D.B. Cooper". Mc Coy. convicted of hijacking a 727 later escaped from prison and was killed in a shoot-out. But then it couldn't be him because that would be the end of the story.
I was a kid in school when that happened and we had a class in which we talked about the news. So we often talked about that case. The amount of money seemed great 100,000 was like at least a million or two now . For sure a person could buy one or two middle class houses or the most expensive car as in a rare car . Now that same amount of money is likely not enough for the down payment on a middle class house at least not in Canada where a tiny house sells for 600,000
tell canadians to stop coming to ny and teaching liberal crap in the college in order to avoid taxes while telling students to hate america and pay more taxes
@@jasonbuck489: All scientific work everywhere in the world is done in metric including the United States. That’s why the evidence analysis would be expressed in metric.
This isn't new. They already suspected someone from a PA manufacturer that dealt with these metals because of the metal bits on the tie. He couldn't have possibly got the tie used, right? Goodwill? Yard sale? Stolen?
An important point: nowadays titanium is used in all kinds of things, in the late 50's early 60's that was not the case, it was just been introduced into the jet aircraft industry.
This particle wasn't "just discovered". They've known about it for years. And I certainly hope the family of the poor deceased guy currently being smeared by this essentially baseless theory (that is being presented as factual by a legacy TV news station) has secured legal counsel. Yet another nail in the coffin of a co-opted entity virtually no one trusts anymore.
@@scottcrawford4148 - I didn't catch if the metallurgical engineer they're positive is "Dan Cooper" was also an 18 series paratrooper (or whatever). My dad was a metallurgical engineer and absolutely was NOT a paratrooper.
Must be a slow day at the propaganda industrial complex that pose as MSM, who run cover for federal LEO/DOJ's criminal activities. The break in D. B. Cooper case is is another "nothingburger", test that skinny black tie against other airline crew and passengers clothing attire, and they will discover it too has the same microbial metal material embedded in them. smdh
I can't understand your stupidity. Since Grammer school we were told to read and get the gist of story. This story said a BILLION times the FBI knows and you all act stupid....son this guy has to sue FBI to prove you all are stupid for believing the government...wait a minute..this is getting political again....😂😂😂
specks of hull don't just hang around in the plane's interior, it's finished, painted, furnished vehicle that's visited by thousands of people and cleaned daily. next time you're in a car try to think of a scenario how a piece of the car's frame would end up on your clothes, there'd have to be a collision strong enough to rip the car apart. granted there's always some chance for debris transfer from ground but it was three particles on a tie, not a shoe or a glove, most likely scenario is that the person wearing the tie was standing close to the metal while it was being worked
Boeing planes do not utilize titanium. Titanium is a rare-earth metal. You will almost never come into contact with titanium in your life, most likely titanium-alloy.
I was thinking the same thing. But you have to keep in mind that they have to dumb down everything for the idiots out there. Of course, we both know that "itsy bitsy" is not a valid measurement. No more than "over there" is a specific location.
She said it was"3 to 4 percent of a single centimeter". If only there was a word to describe this unit of measurement... Oh yeah 'itsy bitsy'. Also I think her tape measure is broken.
If it was that guy, I would have assumed someone at the plant would have recognized him. If he was sick, on vacation or not at work for whatever reason, would have been easy to button him up as copper. Would this guy have anything in background that would suggest that he was capable of making this jump? From what I have read, just a few people in the world were thought to “maybe” be able to do it and survive
The altimeter of the reserve parachute, worn on the chest, was deactivated from automatic deployment by a nylon tether attached to the canvas bag of the main chute. The well dressed parachutist would have removed his tie to not interfere with the operation of the parachute assembly. The reserve chute well as the vest of the main chute had metal parts.
Exactly, from a plane that was used for travel by employees from the plant that produced the materials that is microscopic in size that could be transferred from touch.
....and? Do you feel that the people who handled that tie use supernatural Marvel like superpowers to change the metal composition of the tie clip? If so, that would be more newsworthy than DB Cooper, lol.
That tie has passed through so many hands since then and it happened so long ago before the tech we have today and the ppl who were handling it might notve even worried about washing hands or using gloves so ain't no telling where that one metal fragment came from.
This crime should have been let go a long time ago. The fact that the FBI is still completely abosorbed with this is proof that the agency is way overfunded.
If one studies this case, its a KNown Fact that the Flight Attendant never believed that picture looked anything like the individual she dealt with in person, on the Plane. She mentions that the FBI just wanted to get "ANY" likeness out there ASAP. Accuracy did not matter to them she reported.
I've actually read that she said the very first sketch didn't match the man she saw, it was thrown together quickly. They would update the sketch with witnesses.
Your absolutely right. Tina Mucklow said No Richard Floyd McCoy is not D.B Cooper I wouldn't expect her to remember something today about his characteristics but only months after. She could of passed that test. I take her testimony as very credible at that moment in time.
Years ago they were dredging the Columbia River to make it deeper due to ocean going ships being able to access Portland's port. While dredging a wad of bill banded together and partially decomposed came through the filter. The number on the bills matched the bills stolen by Cooper. The narrative is that Cooper parachuted down, winds carried him into the river where he drown.
Fun fact - British hospitals did a study about dirty things in hospital, one of the worst was the ties the consultants wore as they went from patient to patient.
Some times forensics can turn tiny seemingly meaningless pieces of nothing into valid evidence pointing at a particular person, place or thing. They can do some amazing things these days with things that on the surface would seem insignificant and not even worthy of consideration. At the same time modern forensics is not flawless and doesn't always lead in the right direction.In this case I think it is very premature to drag any real persons face across the screen be they living or dead.
What? They found titanium and stainless steel on a tie that was aboard a plane made of titanium and stainless steel? Who could even dream thats a possibility? So odd and unexpected.
Couldn't these pieces of metal that came from the same kind of plane gotten on his tie from the airport, airline employees, and initial investigators? Maybe the people who collected and saved the tie handled it or stored it in a way that these microscopic pieces were transferred there. Since the technology that could detect and image them didn't exist, I doubt those people were at all concerned about avoiding contaminating the tie in this way.
no dude its unique to the milling process ....like fcking obvoiusly COME ON why are you in the comments of an investigation video if you clearly never watch investgation videos
So a small piece of metal shaving from a company that supplied Boeing and had employees regularly flying on their planes was found on someone who flew on a Boeing plane? That's a long, long way from "the guy who had this piece of metal on him worked at that company". That piece of metal could have been transferred to the plane by any of the steel company employees at any time, weeks or months prior to the heist, and then picked up by anyone else on that plane.
@@ponispal Maybe you should read John's post until you GET it. Then explain how he's wrong instead of just hurling childish insults. Think you can do that?
Or it could have gotten there when the plane was built, imbedded in the seat cushion and then transferred to the tie. A crumb of titanium jostled loose from the overhead compartment that landed on the tie. I would imagine the possibility that there could be bits of titanium anywhere on that aircraft left there during manufacture.
This comment is 100% the correct take. "Particles associated with Boeing 727 found on famous Boeing 727 passenger" isn't exactly the smoking gun the guy in this news story pretends it is.
right? internet users love saying "youre wrong" and refusing to elaborate or try and educate or explain their side. then get pissy when u ask for evidence@@joevarga5982
The tie was also left in an airplane where plenty of Boeing Personnel have ridden. When the man photoed has ears that are completely different than those described in the artist rendering of the man. The tie clip on the tie is actually identified by the family of Richard McCoy as being owned by him. But, although he did attempt someone the same thing a few years later, they never could tie him to the original DB Cooper case.
People’s memories are flawed, artist suspect renderings are never exact. Look at the drawings for Ted Bundy and compare to his photos. For kicks and giggles, worst police sketches: www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=598687199&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS741US741&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ACQVn0-CMmDWf_H1buUwUWlTmFAxFboDbQ:1705373317068&q=Worst+police+sketches&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=6wXo9J8VFvyLGM%252CrQ2ngaqJuE8ZSM%252C_%253BYse4r73XoIjGNM%252CNP0XTaI_ZdPlXM%252C_%253BWJr3flMRWVukrM%252C9MDQcEsW_ZeTMM%252C_%253BbkqEi6IMLI5lQM%252CtZJ1wlNuXUfPeM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQSIZ2BqwSoaxMEps6fZ73NT5SXYw&ved=2ahUKEwinupfW8uCDAxV_h-4BHfNsBYAQ7Al6BAgTEAU&biw=375&bih=742&dpr=3
So Vince hijacks the plane Thanksgiving Eve, jumps out of the plane in Washington state in the middle of nowhere, then turns up for work in Pittsburgh the following Monday like nothing happened. Yeah, that works for me.
My grandfather was DB Cooper. He was a founder of the Oregon skydivers organization. He was a truck driver. He was a green baret army ranger. He was in the Korean war. He had a commercial pilots license. The money was in a shoe box He had in the back of his hanger for about 10 years before he threw it out of a plane over the lake near where he angered his cesna. With the money he bought opal mine and a condominium with the money that he ended up losing to divorce. The name he used l get the ticket AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WAS DUNCAN not Dan!! The money was a government payroll. The door was down before takeoff. He was the first man in the US military to test jump the 737 for the air force. Full bird Colonel Jennifer Reves his neice who ran the 341st missile division in Montana has video footage of my grandfather jumping out of planes. The parachutes are buried in metal drums near the Seattle airport. He jumped shortly after takeoff. He was a pro skydiver. It was his favorite hobby. He helped to blow the Hangang bridge in Korea. He knew explosives very well. He was a member of a well known biker club. He used to smoke and loved bourbon but converted to mormonism in his latter years. He was born in 1936. MY GRANDFATHER WAS DB COOPER.
@@ricksmith4736: Yeah, we’ve all moved on from that nothing burger for a bunch of reasons: - the entrance to that hallway is used by visitors, dignitaries security guards, military and employees alike - as many as 500 guests per day have open access to the cubby where the baggie was found - the President does not use that corridor to get to work - the White House has a staff of 1700 people who all have daily access to that corridor - the amount of drugs found would barely make one good snort - no drug user ever leaves their drugs in some random place The baggie was obviously left intentionally by one of those 1000s of people to rile up internet fools, and guess what…it worked!!
I just like the mystery of the DB Cooper case, I remember when it happened, I don't condone hijacking and robbery but it's kind of neat to think you got away LOL and I also like the story of the Alcatraz Escape, we all need a little mystery an intriguing our life!
Very interesting. I've followed the D.B. Cooper Case for many years. I always suspected he was a Professional Airline Pilot, and that maybe he was grounded due to health issues.
DB Cooper is the PNW's own mysterious anti-hero... our Jesse James or Hatfield and McCoy. What's more, DB didn't hurt anybody. There was no one killed or injured. There was no rambling manifesto furiously scribbled on notebooks. There was no political motive [at least that I've ever heard of]. Nevertheless, his mystery is part of our collective Northwesterner identity and one of the things that makes this area special. DB Cooper is as much part of the NW as hydro races, catching fish at the Pike Street Market, and 'the mountain is out!'. And solving that mystery would take all the fun out of it.
We lived in Seattle at that time and my mom was a ticket agent for Western Airlines. I’ve never asked her about DBC before. I will next time I talk to her.
Circumstantial at best. First assumes the tie was not bought used at a thrift store (to me likely) Then assumes he wore it regularly, chose to then wear a recognizable item for a heist, and finally purposely leave it behind. Me thinks it is more probable that item was not his. But if it was now we are assuming the identified stuff (from Boeing) did not come from that plane, or transferred by cleaners, FAs, Pilots, or customers between planes. There is some "junk science" assumptions - as in some things are facts but things connecting them are baseless assumptions. There is a reason the FBI did not follow this thin thread - the result is meaningless. I tend to follow OCCAM'S RAZOR. The simplest explanation is typically the correct one. And there are too many pieces (facts and assumptions) that have to line up exactly for this to mean anything.
And in addition to all the ways it could have been contaminated by someone/something other than Cooper, how many people have now handled it over the last half-century and potentially added new contaminants?
If we're following occam's razor the most likely fate of db cooper is that he died when he jumped out of the plane (or at least when he hit the ground).
@claytonberg721 nah someone would have found the body. And before u say money was found on a sandbar in the Columbia river...that part has been proved contrived
@@DavidThomas-qq4hf Again, occam's razor. that's a jump that doesn't have a high rate of survivability. It's more likely that a bear or something found his body and had a snack. the PNW is a giant assed place.
3-4% of a centimeter= 0.3-0.4mm = 300-400 microns. I am not sure why simple dimensions cannot be stated unless these measurements are beyond the intellect of the reporters.
Fox 13 Seattle if you're interested in DB Cooper consider contacting Dan Gryder the guy that successfully solved the case. Dan has documented the case extensively.
DB Cooper died in a sinkhole/ cave in the PNW. He fell in, broke his leg and couldnt get back out. He burned the miney to keep warm until he ran out and died. Years later 3 childhood friends got together and went on a search and came across DB's partner who waoted faithfully for his friend for decades. One of the 3 choldhood friends fell into the sinkhole/cave, found DB and figured out what happened. In their search the 3 friends other events and hijynx ensued and a lot of fun was had by all.
Imagine getting paid like she is to not know you put a tie in the washer or the dry cleaner. Said it many times I’ll say it again. These people get paid to lie.🙄
You know you have insurance scammers these days causing traffic accidents that’s stealing way more than what DB did and causing real harm to people right?
Why is this case still being investigated? It's over 50 years old..leave this shit alone....i can't believe there's actually money being spent on somebody to do any further investigation into this matter..sheesh.
Until you can dispute the extensive investigation by Dan Gryder, AKA TH-cam Channel Probable Cause, you are grasping at straws for sensationalism. He has done a years long research project and as far as most people have concluded, he solved the case. I have watched all episodes, and personally I was not convinced until I watched the entire investigation.
Gryder's full of shit. He left out a whole lot of evidence against it being McCoy, and that parachute he showed was absolutely not the one. But Eric Ulis is full of shit too, so this guess is probably wrong too.
A very dear friend of mine who passed away 2 years ago, knew who D.B. Cooper really was. They were close friends at one time and he told me details that only he and Cooper would know. The real D.B. Cooper was Bobby Rackstraw.
The bit of metal could have come from anywhere. The chest strap of the provided parachutes could have introduced it. We pretty much know who DB was, it was a Mac V SOG, Korea, Vietnam Vet named Ted Braden. He went awol from Nam to fight as a Mercenary in Africa and was caught and released by the CIA. The letter most thought to be genuine sent after the crime has phrases that match known bits of Bradens writings and correspondence. It's the same type of thing that got the UNA Bomber caught. I think the US Intel guys have known for decades who did it. They just don't want their dirty laundry hanging out for all to see.
Well if it had been a bow tie they would know that he worked at Woodward Governor back in the day because they all did, a machinist wearing a clip-on tie what a joke
A microscopic piece of metal used in the manufacturering of Boeing aircraft found on a tie left behind in a Boeing aircraft, I wonder if there's any other way it could get there.
My dad was the air traffic controller at Sea/Tac airport that handled that flight. He’s the only person that chatted with that pilot. The FBI didn’t want to change the voice they heard.
In other breaking news, they also found some seat fibers, so clearly he was having an affair with one of the seamstresses…… oh wait, I guess it could’ve come from the plane… that he was on…..
Wasted 20 times more money trying to find him then he ever took
Good point
welcome to the usa government
It’s worse than that. He jeopardized innocent people’s lives.
@@aguy559So what? No one got hurt. No harm, no foul.
It’s the principlalty of the situation 😂😂😂
Over 100,000 pieces of foreign particles on that tie and scientists found no DNA? That man deserves to live free.
How would they find DNA on a tie?
@@godgunzndrumz one would assume he touched the tie and dna testing has come a long way. its pretty wild what they can do these days
@@johnirwin11 This is true sir. And to think even in the future what they may find.
That's what the Biden admin said about Hunter's coke found at the white house.
@5150norcal That's what the Biden admin said about Hunter's coke found at the white house. So like magic they made it disappear.
This case will never be solved & publicly accusing a deceased man of this crime based off that trace of metal is disgusting.
The system is a joke, how much money was spent on this crap?
guys this is NOT a federal case they literally said that in the video
these are private invetigators theres just a big natural community of people who are interested in solving this case but everyone likes him its not like they are going to put a case against him hes probly already dead
yall reall goofy
theyre actaully pretty close to solving it
the system isnt a joke - you are lol@@NotSure876
Yeah.
They will never catch me…I mean him.
😂😂😂
lol
Imagine accusing a man who has been deceased for two decades. Now imagine being the press and releasing that man’s name confidently
Yeah, I’d be running to file defamation suits if I were his relations.
This is a huge S T R E T C H as proof.
@@2pugman Whomever they say did it will be wrong. The real DB Copper died from throat cancer years ago. Chain smoking Raleigh cigarettes will do that to ya. He died in Canada where him and his wife moved to...
@@paulhenson4434wow where did you get that shit?
@@indiopeninsulares6723 He married into my family.
Omg so you're telling me that they found a trace of metal on his tie that is known to be used on the same kind of airplanes that DB Cooper hijacked??? This must be groundbreaking, he MUST have worked for Boeing... Or maybe his tie brushed up against some metal while he was on the plane to begin with. This tells us nothing. It's like saying the person that stole the cookie from the cookie jar must have worked at the bakery because you found crumbs on the glove he left behind.
They found titanium inside of the cabin though. I had the same thought, maybe the entry door components. Too expensive to be used in the cabin where cheaper metals are available. I'd hope this researcher looked up what parts used that metal and ruled out the possibility.
Or someone else tried it on 😂
Agree. Crumbs=baker argument.
That's what I thought at first. But after reading through the comments it is clear that titanium is not common in the passenger area of planes. Especially if you factor in how long the plane had been in service. If it had been cleaned many times it would be unlikely to retain debris from the manufacturing process.
But we are talking about dust, so it is possible that it came from the plane. Also, it isn't enough to prove anything. The banking records for the man they named will be long gone, retention by the bank itself is only seven years. But if he just used the cash slowly then there would be no way to prove it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guy steals $200k.
US Government: Lets spend $20 million to recover it
Lol
I hijacked that plane at the age of 10. But they’ll never catch me…never!!
I was there with you , remember?
How could I forget?? 😁
I had a feeling it was you
I Was your side kick as well
Aw, my sons! I have been looking for you! Your mother asks if you've been eating well.
They traced the particle back to the company that makes that metal for the plane he was on. Actually the particle probably came from the 727 itself that DB Cooper was on; he didn't have to work at the factory; he was onboard the plane and probably the tie somehow picked up the particle from the plane itself. I.e. this "evidence" is worthless.
Exactly. Nothing burger
If the tie can pick up evidence why didn't it pick up the wearers DNA ?
didn't have DNA back then @@septembersurprise5178
I think there were many particles, not just one. Being a passenger in a 727 wouldn't expose you to exotic metals because these are only used in the engine. Also small particles occur during manufacture, not so much the operation of the engines. So the evidence is somewhat compelling.
@@microdesigns2000 Could be he went to the same bathroom as one of the mechanics at some point, may have brushed against someone that manufactures engines. The dust from construction and destruction are similar, not identical I'll grant you, but operation and repair are a bit different.
Unless the media can tie the case to a particular person, D.B. Cooper mystery can continue in peace.
Ha ha! "tie the case" Clever!
He done enjoyed epstien island..bought a corvette to keep his papers..a Malibu house.
D.b. Cooper is a govener now.
@@danielbrown7535He has long passed. Chain smoking Raleigh cigarettes will do that...
The media doesn't really want to solve the the case because that would end the mystery. I would put my money on Richard Floyd Mc Coy. I worked with one of the Pilot crew members that testified at McCoy's trial and he said that both the FBI and the Judge felt that he was "D.B. Cooper". Mc Coy. convicted of hijacking a 727 later escaped from prison and was killed in a shoot-out. But then it couldn't be him because that would be the end of the story.
Richard Floyd McCoy Jr. Was DB Cooper. This case was never a mystery.
I was a kid in school when that happened and we had a class in which we talked about the news. So we often talked about that case. The amount of money seemed great 100,000 was like at least a million or two now . For sure a person could buy one or two middle class houses or the most expensive car as in a rare car . Now that same amount of money is likely not enough for the down payment on a middle class house at least not in Canada where a tiny house sells for 600,000
$200,000.00 I believe. I need to look it up again.
tell canadians to stop coming to ny and teaching liberal crap in the college in order to avoid taxes while telling students to hate america and pay more taxes
A tiny house in Canada does not cost 600,000 dollars.
northern alberta big houses for 250,000 or more
$600,000 for a tiny house? You must live in Vancouver.
Who Knew Blake Shelton was a detective 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
3 to 4% of a centimeter would be just shy of a half a millimeter. Wouldn’t that be an easier way to say it?
Really. Maybe they were trying to talk to the non-metrically inclined amongst us. :)
Or we could use The AMERICAN Standard and go with an 1/32 of an Inch, 1/8 of an Inch, Etc....
Because we must make sure that those from the US, Myanmar, and Liberia can actually understand the measuring system the rest of the world uses.
@@jasonbuck489: All scientific work everywhere in the world is done in metric including the United States. That’s why the evidence analysis would be expressed in metric.
The viewership understands "teeny tiny" better.
This isn't new. They already suspected someone from a PA manufacturer that dealt with these metals because of the metal bits on the tie. He couldn't have possibly got the tie used, right? Goodwill? Yard sale? Stolen?
Or borrowed and they said keep it
Restaurants used to have loaner ties for the gents who came in improperly attired.
No one steals ties man.
Not anymore anyway @@PDXDrumr
@@PDXDrumr😂😂true
An important point: nowadays titanium is used in all kinds of things, in the late 50's early 60's that was not the case, it was just been introduced into the jet aircraft industry.
Come on we already know it was Loki pranking us lol
This particle wasn't "just discovered". They've known about it for years. And I certainly hope the family of the poor deceased guy currently being smeared by this essentially baseless theory (that is being presented as factual by a legacy TV news station) has secured legal counsel. Yet another nail in the coffin of a co-opted entity virtually no one trusts anymore.
If the deceased guys family came out, they would have to prove their relative was DB Copper - mystery solved
@@scottcrawford4148 - I didn't catch if the metallurgical engineer they're positive is "Dan Cooper" was also an 18 series paratrooper (or whatever). My dad was a metallurgical engineer and absolutely was NOT a paratrooper.
yep its all about money not honesty
Must be a slow day at the propaganda industrial complex that pose as MSM, who run cover for federal LEO/DOJ's criminal activities. The break in D. B. Cooper case is is another "nothingburger", test that skinny black tie against other airline crew and passengers clothing attire, and they will discover it too has the same microbial metal material embedded in them. smdh
Nicely articulated
in a case like this, just accept the fact that this will forever be a mystery..
They got Tupac killer though! 😂
Nope...ratings/ clicks...like JFK revision stories...
Yes! that is VARY TRUE! There is somethings in life that humans are not meant to understand.
it was a big story, he even bragged about doing the heist and the fbi came knocking on his door and found the literal suit he used 😂😂😂
I can't understand your stupidity. Since Grammer school we were told to read and get the gist of story. This story said a BILLION times the FBI knows and you all act stupid....son this guy has to sue FBI to prove you all are stupid for believing the government...wait a minute..this is getting political again....😂😂😂
If only they didn't lose his cigarette buds, it would have been way easier to find him.
Yeah, so true.
Seems a little convenient…
"Can lead them to"..... Thanks for the update, it was super beneficial.
Or the metal came from the very plane that it was found on...
Exactly. 🤦🏼♂️
My thought too.
specks of hull don't just hang around in the plane's interior, it's finished, painted, furnished vehicle that's visited by thousands of people and cleaned daily. next time you're in a car try to think of a scenario how a piece of the car's frame would end up on your clothes, there'd have to be a collision strong enough to rip the car apart. granted there's always some chance for debris transfer from ground but it was three particles on a tie, not a shoe or a glove, most likely scenario is that the person wearing the tie was standing close to the metal while it was being worked
Boeing planes do not utilize titanium. Titanium is a rare-earth metal. You will almost never come into contact with titanium in your life, most likely titanium-alloy.
"It's itsy bitsy." Now that is some hard hitting journalism.
I was thinking the same thing. But you have to keep in mind that they have to dumb down everything for the idiots out there. Of course, we both know that "itsy bitsy" is not a valid measurement. No more than "over there" is a specific location.
How many itsy bitsies are there in half an adult male giraffe? We need to establish the scientific basis here.
She said it was"3 to 4 percent of a single centimeter". If only there was a word to describe this unit of measurement...
Oh yeah 'itsy bitsy'.
Also I think her tape measure is broken.
I liked “itsy bitsy,” it made the story more interesting. Spell check does not share my fascination with the phrase, however.
This news segment was written as well as Napoleon Dynamite's "Nessy" report.
Wow....people have nothing else to do.
If it was that guy, I would have assumed someone at the plant would have recognized him. If he was sick, on vacation or not at work for whatever reason, would have been easy to button him up as copper. Would this guy have anything in background that would suggest that he was capable of making this jump? From what I have read, just a few people in the world were thought to “maybe” be able to do it and survive
This was reported a year ago by news in Portland.
And somewhere else years before then. U would think they would do homework before the report 😂
Saw this a year ago Too.? Old news is New news.
Fox needs the money , they have no ethics.....
Ooh post it! I’m obsessed with this case and would love to see!
It's been known for even longer ever since they got the tie.
I’m still sticking with D.B. Copper being Loki of Asgard. Final answer .
Same 😂
Sure just find a scrap of nothing and Fox will include you in their next expose'
Lol I had forgotten that scene
MF Doom
YES!
Great detective work!
The altimeter of the reserve parachute, worn on the chest, was deactivated from automatic deployment by a nylon tether attached to the canvas bag of the main chute. The well dressed parachutist would have removed his tie to not interfere with the operation of the parachute assembly. The reserve chute well as the vest of the main chute had metal parts.
Why is it case breaking that he had a piece of metal from a plane on him that is from a plane he was on?
Exactly, from a plane that was used for travel by employees from the plant that produced the materials that is microscopic in size that could be transferred from touch.
Nothing story
@@scottcrawford4148 experts say that it could be ground breaking
Yup
@@BrigCommander "EXPERTS"
Everyone and their dog has handled that tie.
woof
....and? Do you feel that the people who handled that tie use supernatural Marvel like superpowers to change the metal composition of the tie clip? If so, that would be more newsworthy than DB Cooper, lol.
Oh! He's got you there! It probably wasn't superpowers because they're not real, so you're wrong because you never said it was.
CHECK MATE!
That tie has passed through so many hands since then and it happened so long ago before the tech we have today and the ppl who were handling it might notve even worried about washing hands or using gloves so ain't no telling where that one metal fragment came from.
This crime should have been let go a long time ago. The fact that the FBI is still completely abosorbed with this is proof that the agency is way overfunded.
Literally the opposite was stated in the video.... Lol?
What are you on about?... At the end of the interview, the dude literally said: they don't want to have anything to do with this case, at this point.
Of all the things to put Pittsburgh on the map again, it's (possibly) the D.B. Cooper case? That's absolutely wild.
Imagine DB Cooper sitting today watching this video.
He would be like: 😓😓😓😓😑😑😑😑
THE GUY THEY DESCRIBED WOULD HAVE BEEN 50-55 IN 1971.....OR 103--108 TODAY....MORE THAN LIKELY LONG GONE .
@@donaldkgarman296 yeah. He’d all senile. He’d be like: “did i do that? Was that me?” 😁
If one studies this case, its a KNown Fact that the Flight Attendant never believed that picture looked anything like the individual she dealt with in person, on the Plane. She mentions that the FBI just wanted to get "ANY" likeness out there ASAP. Accuracy did not matter to them she reported.
I've actually read that she said the very first sketch didn't match the man she saw, it was thrown together quickly. They would update the sketch with witnesses.
Bingo @@iolitelight
Your absolutely right.
Tina Mucklow said No
Richard Floyd McCoy is not D.B Cooper
I wouldn't expect her to remember something today about his characteristics but only months after.
She could of passed that test.
I take her testimony as very credible at that moment in time.
The way they trace and find people now a days is amazing and this probably was DB , even the ears stick out like the picture lol
Fascinating! Great job!
Big thanks for this. I won't wear a tie anymore and will donate the ones I have to Goodwill.
💯🎯😂😷
DB cooper......legend.....I hope he's had a great life and he passes/passed happy .
Years ago they were dredging the Columbia River to make it deeper due to ocean going ships being able to access Portland's port. While dredging a wad of bill banded together and partially decomposed came through the filter. The number on the bills matched the bills stolen by Cooper. The narrative is that Cooper parachuted down, winds carried him into the river where he drown.
needs to be held accountable if he stole. no exceptions.
@@Atitlan1222th-cam.com/video/O7Ym91Xzb5s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=exoQ4JNWjrnuGa-W
Is correct name was Dan cooper.
@@Atitlan1222they never cought him they never will he died years ago 😂
oh come on, we all know D.B Cooper was now sitting on a throne, keeping the universe's timeline
Fun fact - British hospitals did a study about dirty things in hospital, one of the worst was the ties the consultants wore as they went from patient to patient.
This can't be an evidence ,it will be rejected in court
This isn't even new evidence
Some times forensics can turn tiny seemingly meaningless pieces of nothing into valid evidence pointing at a particular person, place or thing. They can do some amazing things these days with things that on the surface would seem insignificant and not even worthy of consideration. At the same time modern forensics is not flawless and doesn't always lead in the right direction.In this case I think it is very premature to drag any real persons face across the screen be they living or dead.
What? They found titanium and stainless steel on a tie that was aboard a plane made of titanium and stainless steel? Who could even dream thats a possibility? So odd and unexpected.
😂well said my friend, well said. They need to keep ratings up right?
Can they not check the employee records to see if any missed work or left around that time?
ANYTHING to take away from how they legalized most drug use and lost control
Couldn't these pieces of metal that came from the same kind of plane gotten on his tie from the airport, airline employees, and initial investigators? Maybe the people who collected and saved the tie handled it or stored it in a way that these microscopic pieces were transferred there. Since the technology that could detect and image them didn't exist, I doubt those people were at all concerned about avoiding contaminating the tie in this way.
Just what I was thinking. Seems quite ridiculous to think it must be connected to Cooper.
This is full of shit… probable cause solved this…
no dude its unique to the milling process ....like fcking obvoiusly COME ON why are you in the comments of an investigation video if you clearly never watch investgation videos
So a small piece of metal shaving from a company that supplied Boeing and had employees regularly flying on their planes was found on someone who flew on a Boeing plane? That's a long, long way from "the guy who had this piece of metal on him worked at that company". That piece of metal could have been transferred to the plane by any of the steel company employees at any time, weeks or months prior to the heist, and then picked up by anyone else on that plane.
I suggest that you listen to the first 3 minutes again. If you don't pick up on it, forget about it.
@@ponispal Maybe you should read John's post until you GET it. Then explain how he's wrong instead of just hurling childish insults. Think you can do that?
Or it could have gotten there when the plane was built, imbedded in the seat cushion and then transferred to the tie.
A crumb of titanium jostled loose from the overhead compartment that landed on the tie.
I would imagine the possibility that there could be bits of titanium anywhere on that aircraft left there during manufacture.
This comment is 100% the correct take. "Particles associated with Boeing 727 found on famous Boeing 727 passenger" isn't exactly the smoking gun the guy in this news story pretends it is.
right? internet users love saying "youre wrong" and refusing to elaborate or try and educate or explain their side. then get pissy when u ask for evidence@@joevarga5982
People need to let this case go.
Why investigate a crime you committed? They already have the answer.
You are correct
The tie was also left in an airplane where plenty of Boeing Personnel have ridden. When the man photoed has ears that are completely different than those described in the artist rendering of the man. The tie clip on the tie is actually identified by the family of Richard McCoy as being owned by him. But, although he did attempt someone the same thing a few years later, they never could tie him to the original DB Cooper case.
Didn't attempt.seems pretty identical
People’s memories are flawed, artist suspect renderings are never exact. Look at the drawings for Ted Bundy and compare to his photos.
For kicks and giggles, worst police sketches: www.google.com/search?sa=X&sca_esv=598687199&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS741US741&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ACQVn0-CMmDWf_H1buUwUWlTmFAxFboDbQ:1705373317068&q=Worst+police+sketches&tbm=isch&source=univ&fir=6wXo9J8VFvyLGM%252CrQ2ngaqJuE8ZSM%252C_%253BYse4r73XoIjGNM%252CNP0XTaI_ZdPlXM%252C_%253BWJr3flMRWVukrM%252C9MDQcEsW_ZeTMM%252C_%253BbkqEi6IMLI5lQM%252CtZJ1wlNuXUfPeM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQSIZ2BqwSoaxMEps6fZ73NT5SXYw&ved=2ahUKEwinupfW8uCDAxV_h-4BHfNsBYAQ7Al6BAgTEAU&biw=375&bih=742&dpr=3
They could never "tie" him to the case... I see what you did there.
So Vince hijacks the plane Thanksgiving Eve, jumps out of the plane in Washington state in the middle of nowhere, then turns up for work in Pittsburgh the following Monday like nothing happened.
Yeah, that works for me.
well if he went missing they would have known it was him
me - *starts cleaning all his ties*
My grandfather was DB Cooper. He was a founder of the Oregon skydivers organization. He was a truck driver. He was a green baret army ranger. He was in the Korean war. He had a commercial pilots license. The money was in a shoe box He had in the back of his hanger for about 10 years before he threw it out of a plane over the lake near where he angered his cesna. With the money he bought opal mine and a condominium with the money that he ended up losing to divorce. The name he used l get the ticket AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WAS DUNCAN not Dan!! The money was a government payroll. The door was down before takeoff. He was the first man in the US military to test jump the 737 for the air force. Full bird Colonel Jennifer Reves his neice who ran the 341st missile division in Montana has video footage of my grandfather jumping out of planes. The parachutes are buried in metal drums near the Seattle airport. He jumped shortly after takeoff. He was a pro skydiver. It was his favorite hobby. He helped to blow the Hangang bridge in Korea. He knew explosives very well. He was a member of a well known biker club. He used to smoke and loved bourbon but converted to mormonism in his latter years. He was born in 1936. MY GRANDFATHER WAS DB COOPER.
They will never let this one go folks…
Unlike the baggy of coke in the white house.... Crickets....................
@@ricksmith4736: Yeah, we’ve all moved on from that nothing burger for a bunch of reasons:
- the entrance to that hallway is used by visitors, dignitaries security guards, military and employees alike
- as many as 500 guests per day have open access to the cubby where the baggie was found
- the President does not use that corridor to get to work
- the White House has a staff of 1700 people who all have daily access to that corridor
- the amount of drugs found would barely make one good snort
- no drug user ever leaves their drugs in some random place
The baggie was obviously left intentionally by one of those 1000s of people to rile up internet fools, and guess what…it worked!!
@sBaum: Hey, we’re still finding evidence of the Loch Ness Monster and Jack the Ripper, lol. Oh and Santa Claus! Slow day at the office I guess.
I just like the mystery of the DB Cooper case, I remember when it happened, I don't condone hijacking and robbery but it's kind of neat to think you got away LOL and I also like the story of the Alcatraz Escape, we all need a little mystery an intriguing our life!
Not all crimes get solved, this is one of them.
It's solved
Ahh yes, they've found metal on the tie matching that of the plane he was on, that's definitely worth investigating
Very interesting. I've followed the D.B. Cooper Case for many years. I always suspected he was a Professional Airline Pilot, and that maybe he was grounded due to health issues.
No, it was me. I was just bored that day and needed something to do.
DB Cooper is the PNW's own mysterious anti-hero... our Jesse James or Hatfield and McCoy. What's more, DB didn't hurt anybody. There was no one killed or injured. There was no rambling manifesto furiously scribbled on notebooks. There was no political motive [at least that I've ever heard of]. Nevertheless, his mystery is part of our collective Northwesterner identity and one of the things that makes this area special. DB Cooper is as much part of the NW as hydro races, catching fish at the Pike Street Market, and 'the mountain is out!'. And solving that mystery would take all the fun out of it.
db cooper threatened to bomb innocent ppl
We all know he shape shifted back into bigfoot as soon he bailed out of the plane.
We lived in Seattle at that time and my mom was a ticket agent for Western Airlines. I’ve never asked her about DBC before. I will next time I talk to her.
@@OscarGoldman77 That's either gonna be really interesting or very dull
I heard he just tossed out the parachutes and shape-shifted into Mothman before he moved on to his Bigfoot disguise.@@joedirt1965
Uncle Chael already told us who D.B. Cooper is. 😂😂😂
cooper watching this video rn and running away with his wheelchair or sum😂
That sketch nailed it , superimpose that picture with that sketch and it's 100% match.
They can come up with all this, but still can't figure out where all those extra ballots came from?
Or a cure for the "common" cold.😂
This is an insane amount of conjecture. Had a particle that the plane he was on had. STOP. THE. PRESSES.
your privacy and dignity are a joke to the news
So Vince was a US military trained skydiver? Dude had more than metallurgical skills. Better give Dan Gryder a call to compare notes on this case.
Its amazing how high profile case evidence goes missing but yet we have DB Cooper tie from 1974
I know, right? The Hollywood, FL cops lost just about all the evidence in the Adam Walsh case….including a 1971 Cadillac.
What case is higher profile than this? None.
Don’t these people know that D. B. Cooper is really Loki?!?
LMAO. Grasping at straws. They acted like this was some smoking gun. 🤣
Circumstantial at best.
First assumes the tie was not bought used at a thrift store (to me likely)
Then assumes he wore it regularly, chose to then wear a recognizable item for a heist, and finally purposely leave it behind.
Me thinks it is more probable that item was not his.
But if it was now we are assuming the identified stuff (from Boeing) did not come from that plane, or transferred by cleaners, FAs, Pilots, or customers between planes.
There is some "junk science" assumptions - as in some things are facts but things connecting them are baseless assumptions. There is a reason the FBI did not follow this thin thread - the result is meaningless.
I tend to follow OCCAM'S RAZOR. The simplest explanation is typically the correct one. And there are too many pieces (facts and assumptions) that have to line up exactly for this to mean anything.
And in addition to all the ways it could have been contaminated by someone/something other than Cooper, how many people have now handled it over the last half-century and potentially added new contaminants?
If we're following occam's razor the most likely fate of db cooper is that he died when he jumped out of the plane (or at least when he hit the ground).
@claytonberg721 nah someone would have found the body. And before u say money was found on a sandbar in the Columbia river...that part has been proved contrived
@@DavidThomas-qq4hf Again, occam's razor. that's a jump that doesn't have a high rate of survivability. It's more likely that a bear or something found his body and had a snack. the PNW is a giant assed place.
I'm DB Cooper.
3-4% of a centimeter= 0.3-0.4mm = 300-400 microns. I am not sure why simple dimensions cannot be stated unless these measurements are beyond the intellect of the reporters.
Thanks! I was wondering what she meant by "itsy bitsy".
Have a nice day my hero!
🤠👍
100 years from, they'll still make this into news 😂
Dan Gryder solved this with remaining family confirmation already. It’s a 2 hour TH-cam that is very interesting.
Ya, really. It's already been solved.
Fox 13 Seattle if you're interested in DB Cooper consider contacting Dan Gryder the guy that successfully solved the case. Dan has documented the case extensively.
Looks like he might be qrong
@@jimmcfarland3446 McCoy's kids had the modified backpack (parachute) and showed it to Dan.
McCoy was not Cooper
th-cam.com/video/gAlItcC2Ofc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aATm7eyRKeAVunDH
Not even close. 😂
It's the real McCoy.
DB Cooper died in a sinkhole/ cave in the PNW. He fell in, broke his leg and couldnt get back out. He burned the miney to keep warm until he ran out and died.
Years later 3 childhood friends got together and went on a search and came across DB's partner who waoted faithfully for his friend for decades.
One of the 3 choldhood friends fell into the sinkhole/cave, found DB and figured out what happened. In their search the 3 friends other events and hijynx ensued and a lot of fun was had by all.
It’s been documented
Hey you guys!
Have any documents or internet evidence of any kind to prove this
@@paddywarner4452 Yes, there is a documentary on it called "without a paddle".
@@robertd9000 bro that’s a freaking movie that those who have never seen don’t know the context behind this joke as a result
Imagine getting paid like she is to not know you put a tie in the washer or the dry cleaner. Said it many times I’ll say it again. These people get paid to lie.🙄
So they found a piece of aircraft metal on a tie that was found on an aircraft and this is a big break.. . Smh
Everyone should have a hobby...
This is the dumbest thing ive ever seen. Hes dead. What a waste of time resources and money.
What’s strange about finding a particle of metal from the plane on the tie of a man known to have been on said plane?
Spoiler alert: case won't be solved.
It was solved by Dan Gryder and he has several videos with all the documentation. Apparently, some haven't seen the documentary.
Could the hijacker have borrowed or bought tie second hand at a garage sale ?
You know you have insurance scammers these days causing traffic accidents that’s stealing way more than what DB did and causing real harm to people right?
Do they have pictures of the guy when he was younger? I’d love to see how similar he looked to the police composite.
Why is this case still being investigated? It's over 50 years old..leave this shit alone....i can't believe there's actually money being spent on somebody to do any further investigation into this matter..sheesh.
Shut up fed
@@InLieuTube snoooooooze…waste of time and money..let DB rest already lol
its just a distraction from what the news should be but instead they give us this nonsense
Someone just wants to be known as “the guy who solved the DB Cooper case.”
Oh my god who the hell cares?
Until you can dispute the extensive investigation by Dan Gryder, AKA TH-cam Channel Probable Cause, you are grasping at straws for sensationalism. He has done a years long research project and as far as most people have concluded, he solved the case. I have watched all episodes, and personally I was not convinced until I watched the entire investigation.
Gryder's full of shit. He left out a whole lot of evidence against it being McCoy, and that parachute he showed was absolutely not the one. But Eric Ulis is full of shit too, so this guess is probably wrong too.
A very dear friend of mine who passed away 2 years ago, knew who D.B. Cooper really was. They were close friends at one time and he told me details that only he and Cooper would know. The real D.B. Cooper was Bobby Rackstraw.
God, I hope this is true.
@@TH-camCritic I have no reason to doubt my friend.
Remember that the airline workers said he’s not the guy
The bit of metal could have come from anywhere. The chest strap of the provided parachutes could have introduced it. We pretty much know who DB was, it was a Mac V SOG, Korea, Vietnam Vet named Ted Braden. He went awol from Nam to fight as a Mercenary in Africa and was caught and released by the CIA. The letter most thought to be genuine sent after the crime has phrases that match known bits of Bradens writings and correspondence. It's the same type of thing that got the UNA Bomber caught. I think the US Intel guys have known for decades who did it. They just don't want their dirty laundry hanging out for all to see.
So if I become a special forces soldier, I’m allowed to hijack an aircraft and demand a ransom?
@@Sniperboy5551:
Obviously not, dip-Schlitz.
th-cam.com/video/PAxEjbPv7II/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HZNQ1G2kEm4P9f6s
@@Sniperboy5551 Another wana be you are huh?
@@Sniperboy5551You Dipschlitz.
Wow. Maybe he picked up the particle on the plane he hijacked.
I highly doubt a person would wear a tie while machining metal parts.
Well if it had been a bow tie they would know that he worked at Woodward Governor back in the day because they all did, a machinist wearing a clip-on tie what a joke
A microscopic piece of metal used in the manufacturering of Boeing aircraft found on a tie left behind in a Boeing aircraft, I wonder if there's any other way it could get there.
it was a big story, he even bragged about doing the heist and the fbi came knocking on his door and found the literal suit he used 😂😂😂
My dad was the air traffic controller at Sea/Tac airport that handled that flight. He’s the only person that chatted with that pilot. The FBI didn’t want to change the voice they heard.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even be allowed on the shop floor of a metal manufacturing plant wearing a necktie. Too dangerous.
He'd probably had most of his exposure in the Met Lab.
"My dad was DB Cooper" by Bradley Cooper is a very, very, interesting book. Well worth reading.
D.B. Cooper traveled back to the future
It’s already been solved, his family identified him, as a military member!
I heard the same thing i want to say he was AirBorne ranger
Really?
@@ryanawilson8549 that’s what I heard , was some time back
In other breaking news, they also found some seat fibers, so clearly he was having an affair with one of the seamstresses…… oh wait, I guess it could’ve come from the plane… that he was on…..
Even if he is alive, dude would be in his mid 90s. The chance of him alive is slim to none
3-4% of a centimetre? Legacy media journalism hasn't discovered millimetres yet 😆😁😆