Thanks, my friend. Looking at purchasing my first marker. Leaning towards the Stormer Elite for the dual feed option but mcsus.com has some variants of it that are oh so appealing. Any recommendations on a good entry lvl speedball marker?
@@theJStrick54 well, it all was said before. Mini Gs, or if you are bigger hand guy, etha 2. Its good to test them. Go to some store or even on field. Sure someone let you try out.
I just got a whole setup with an Etha3 electric, I’m basically a beginner. The Lone Wolf videos have been a big help for me personally. I have a lot to learn and I love that! Just learning is fun! Also to the original commenter…you have such a great attitude dude!! I’ve had some problems when I talk in person with other players for some reason. Just some serious “gatekeeping” attitudes. Like they don’t want any new players or something. LOL. I wish all experienced players were as welcoming as you. I appreciate that!
This was really helpful for me being a beginner with no experience except for rentals. I wish there were more videos like this to help with tanks and other videos
if you have a "home field" or like to head to the wood with a bunch of friend to play a few game for fun, CO2 is still a great choice. The yield of shot per fill is still great with a tippmann gun. You can grab a few 24oz and tippmann chronus for the price a a good gun and on one fill you'll be able to play all day. That being said, if you play on a real commercial field GET AIR!!!
one thing i feel needs to be mentioned and isnt said here is if you run CO2 with a remote line it will warm up to ambient temps in the line and wont freeze the solenoid but it does have particulates in it that can still be potentially harmful to e-markers thats why its being phased out
Thanks for the video I was having such a hard time trying to figure out the difference between 68/4500 and 45/4500 pretty simple lol but now I don’t have to guess lol
Some older CO2 tanks are made of a steel-molybdenum alloy, called chrome-molly. Cool old tanks, but they were heavy. One came with my SMG60, it never needed to be hydroed either.
Personally I'd like to see a video going over the different style of tank regulators themselves. Aluminum, Brass and Stainless Steel. And how those materials interact with the largely aluminum ASA's that come stock on most markers these days.
i had a tipmman gryphon and a co2 tank for my first setup in 2011. lol. my gun would freeze playing in any temp under 75 and sunny. in winter i shot about 50 x before my bolt was frozen over.
Question: how long does an HPA tank hold its air? Annual paintball outing is in the middle of nowhere and I won't have time day-of to fill. Will it slowly leak out over a day or two to the point of it being a problem come game day?
It will not leak unless something is wrong with the tanks regulator. You could fill the tank and it will stay filled well past the tanks own hydro date.
It depends on their specific compressor they use at the park. There are 3K and 4.5K models. The 3k can only fill to 3k max, the 4.5 can fill to both 3K and 4.5K. When you compress air, it heats up and also expands, so you will lose some bottle pressure after it is filled and cools down.
I wouldn’t even want a steel tank, unless it was fully stainless. Steel rusts and high pressure + Rust can lead to a REALLY BAD DAY! Even just a standard air compressor just running it, it builds moisture. You can see it blow out of the valve on the bottom of the tank when you decompress the tank. That’s most likely why these tanks are all aluminum nowadays. Not to mention the high quality alloys like 6061 & 7075 t6 aluminum which rivals some steels in strength. It doesn’t rust either. A tank at 3000 or 4500 psi exploded is not a good thing at all! Air actually explodes, which is why they test with water and not air. Water will just spray if a tank fails, air will violently escape out a failed section creating more damage and possibly send shrapnel out at lethal speeds. So that being said, if anyone reading this has a out of date tank? PLEASE DO YOURSELF AND POSSIBLY ANYONE AROUND YOU A FAVOR AND GET YOUR TANK HYDRO TESTED, OR GET A NEW TANK. IT REALLY COULD MEAN YOUR LIFE OR SOMEONE ELSES LIFE BECAUSE OF IT. HPA is no joke. This is my PSA of the day. BTW thanks Lonewolf for the A-5 and the response trigger I just ordered from y’all, it’s a beast. Got my nephew to buy one the same day. You guys ship super fast, love it! 👍👍
@@lorenzoblack3575 so what if I was tryna put it inside my .68 cal and shoot somebody I would have to take the tank out and then pump it up, I can't leave it full inside the gun?
@@FIREB4II home defence? I've talked to grimburg and they said they've stored air in tanks for one to 2 years with no issues. Just need to check pressure over time. I wouldn't keep it stored under pressure on a gun, that could cause premature failure.
Partially, lets say 60%? Because of two reasons... One, when you want to try your gun or whatever, you dont have to go out and get air.😅 Two, its better for the tank itself, it better preserves it
Where do i get those tank stands at? Those would be great to hold tanks while im filling them at my games vs laying them on a table and hoping they dont roll off
Just wanted to ask how much do paintball shops charge for a very large tank, lets say those tanks that are 5 foot in height? Do they charge the same rate as small tanks? Thank you.
I have a question but it’s not about tanks. I have an P. E. etek2 and the barrel is stuck to the barrel tip. Did the etek2 come with a 2 piece barrel and, is it a normal thread? (By normal I mean right to tight left to loosen)
@@floatingbritton2150 that's odd but then again everything i need for gear is like 10 minutes away. Kinda new recently got my first marker from friends. They told me they needed the gamer girl on the field lol. Hope you have a great day
Thank goodness the tank i got was an airtank...i got that while i had my TMC and then upgraded to my Mini GS....didn't know at the time that CO² would kill my Mini GS
You didn’t answer if the output pressure would make the gun shoot harder ? For example if a marker says use max output pressure of 650psi and I use a output pressure of 500psi will the marker shoot weaker?
This may sound stupid. If you buy 4500psi bottle for the possible upgrade you want in the future, can you use it on a 3000Psi gun only if you fill the bottle to 3000?
is it possible to change the location of the fill nozzle on a ninja tank?, mine is in a terrible spot it stabs me in the wrist while shooting right handed, thx cheers guys
Ninja used to make shims that went between the reg and the asa, they're basically c-clips. It's not the best way to do it, but it is the easiest and the cheapest
Well that's silly, if a manufacturer is charging $160-400 for a tank, they should be making the gauges specific to that tanks capabilities, regardless of the connections are universal, the material for the tank doesn't cost that much to make. 🤣
I acknowledge Ninja for suficient quality but dont be saying merican quality to be something to be impressed by. I shurely am not. My XVR fell apart right out from the box. As generally chineese quality is badmouthed, they can be of superior quality as well. It is very individual what product you choose so no Americal is just as bad as my own countrys quality. Yes, do support local ! As you get the face to face interaction with the quality and can use leverage with personal relationships with manufacurer.
Better regs are a scam, if your keep your reg maintained. It's going to be just as good a Basic ninja reg is just as good as like a usa 200$ powerhouse.
Great video for begginers. We all know that, but there are planty of guys starting, or thinking how to start. Great work guys
I'm breaking into the sport as a rec ball player and these vids are always gold from guys like Lonewolf and Punisher.
@@theJStrick54 so, welcome buddy:)
Thanks, my friend. Looking at purchasing my first marker. Leaning towards the Stormer Elite for the dual feed option but mcsus.com has some variants of it that are oh so appealing. Any recommendations on a good entry lvl speedball marker?
@@theJStrick54 well, it all was said before. Mini Gs, or if you are bigger hand guy, etha 2. Its good to test them. Go to some store or even on field. Sure someone let you try out.
I just got a whole setup with an Etha3 electric, I’m basically a beginner. The Lone Wolf videos have been a big help for me personally. I have a lot to learn and I love that! Just learning is fun!
Also to the original commenter…you have such a great attitude dude!! I’ve had some problems when I talk in person with other players for some reason. Just some serious “gatekeeping” attitudes. Like they don’t want any new players or something. LOL. I wish all experienced players were as welcoming as you. I appreciate that!
This was really helpful for me being a beginner with no experience except for rentals. I wish there were more videos like this to help with tanks and other videos
I would recommend getting a harness rather than a case.
Hi Tony from mobile paintball I love your videos
I love his videos too
if you have a "home field" or like to head to the wood with a bunch of friend to play a few game for fun, CO2 is still a great choice. The yield of shot per fill is still great with a tippmann gun. You can grab a few 24oz and tippmann chronus for the price a a good gun and on one fill you'll be able to play all day.
That being said, if you play on a real commercial field GET AIR!!!
one thing i feel needs to be mentioned and isnt said here is if you run CO2 with a remote line it will warm up to ambient temps in the line and wont freeze the solenoid but it does have particulates in it that can still be potentially harmful to e-markers thats why its being phased out
Thanks for the video I was having such a hard time trying to figure out the difference between 68/4500 and 45/4500 pretty simple lol but now I don’t have to guess lol
Very informative, when are you going to have in stock the ninja sl2 cerakote 77/4500 tank with a pro v2 reg very interested in purchasing a tank
Keep it up guys
Some older CO2 tanks are made of a steel-molybdenum alloy, called chrome-molly. Cool old tanks, but they were heavy. One came with my SMG60, it never needed to be hydroed either.
NOW THAT IS A GOOD VIDEO!
How about rehydro testing how much and is it worth retesting your outdated bottles
Personally I'd like to see a video going over the different style of tank regulators themselves. Aluminum, Brass and Stainless Steel. And how those materials interact with the largely aluminum ASA's that come stock on most markers these days.
Great information. He made sure you were only going to ask 5. lol
Very informative, per se...
could you guys do more magfed like t15 or mg100 set ups
i had a tipmman gryphon and a co2 tank for my first setup in 2011. lol. my gun would freeze playing in any temp under 75 and sunny. in winter i shot about 50 x before my bolt was frozen over.
I love playing paint ball. Have you tried the tippmann A-5 with respawned.
I have a tippmann custom 98. How big of a tank do you recommend since some markers operate better on lower pressure.
You guys should do a giveaway. Have people spend $5/entry on your online store.
Can ALL paintball guns take HPA Tanks? I have an old JT Stealth Camo Paintball Gun, and the manual says that it is "recommended" to use CO2.
Do all of the HPA tanks expire? I’ve got some old ones from mid 2000’s.
where can i get compressed air filled if i don’t have a local
Can you leave air in the tank while stored?
What are the tanks for the air Refillers at the paintball place
I hope someone answers this
I have a barrel swab to clean the paint out while I'm in a game and I was wondering what would be the best way to clean it without messing it up.
What is the lightest tank in weight for the 68 /4500 ?
0.7kg =)
do you have vid abougt chimming regs according to guns operating preassures? do someone need low preassure regs or does the chimming work suficiently?
Question: how long does an HPA tank hold its air? Annual paintball outing is in the middle of nowhere and I won't have time day-of to fill. Will it slowly leak out over a day or two to the point of it being a problem come game day?
It will not leak unless something is wrong with the tanks regulator. You could fill the tank and it will stay filled well past the tanks own hydro date.
Unless there is something wrong, the air wont ever leak.
Steel tanks were used for CO2 specifically. Aluminum and fiber wrapped are for HPA.
True newbie here. Where do you get these tanks filled at? At the paintball shop?
Why do parks say they offer 4500 psi but they max it out at 3000?
It depends on their specific compressor they use at the park. There are 3K and 4.5K models. The 3k can only fill to 3k max, the 4.5 can fill to both 3K and 4.5K. When you compress air, it heats up and also expands, so you will lose some bottle pressure after it is filled and cools down.
I wouldn’t even want a steel tank, unless it was fully stainless. Steel rusts and high pressure + Rust can lead to a REALLY BAD DAY! Even just a standard air compressor just running it, it builds moisture. You can see it blow out of the valve on the bottom of the tank when you decompress the tank.
That’s most likely why these tanks are all aluminum nowadays. Not to mention the high quality alloys like 6061 & 7075 t6 aluminum which rivals some steels in strength. It doesn’t rust either.
A tank at 3000 or 4500 psi exploded is not a good thing at all! Air actually explodes, which is why they test with water and not air. Water will just spray if a tank fails, air will violently escape out a failed section creating more damage and possibly send shrapnel out at lethal speeds.
So that being said, if anyone reading this has a out of date tank? PLEASE DO YOURSELF AND POSSIBLY ANYONE AROUND YOU A FAVOR AND GET YOUR TANK HYDRO TESTED, OR GET A NEW TANK. IT REALLY COULD MEAN YOUR LIFE OR SOMEONE ELSES LIFE BECAUSE OF IT. HPA is no joke.
This is my PSA of the day.
BTW thanks Lonewolf for the A-5 and the response trigger I just ordered from y’all, it’s a beast. Got my nephew to buy one the same day. You guys ship super fast, love it! 👍👍
The old steel tanks were stainless. They were never as popular as aluminum because of price and weight and to my knowledge were only used for CO2.
@@GigoloSoldier Actually they were chromoly steel, not stainless.
lol cool story about yourself.
So will a 68/4500 hold more air than a 48/4500?
How should you store your tanks? Full, empty, partially?
Empty
@@lorenzoblack3575 so what if I was tryna put it inside my .68 cal and shoot somebody I would have to take the tank out and then pump it up, I can't leave it full inside the gun?
@@FIREB4II home defence? I've talked to grimburg and they said they've stored air in tanks for one to 2 years with no issues. Just need to check pressure over time. I wouldn't keep it stored under pressure on a gun, that could cause premature failure.
Partially, lets say 60%? Because of two reasons...
One, when you want to try your gun or whatever, you dont have to go out and get air.😅
Two, its better for the tank itself, it better preserves it
How and what kind of Regulator do i use to transfer air from the fiber tanks ro my pcp...thanks
Where do i get those tank stands at? Those would be great to hold tanks while im filling them at my games vs laying them on a table and hoping they dont roll off
Just wanted to ask how much do paintball shops charge for a very large tank, lets say those tanks that are 5 foot in height? Do they charge the same rate as small tanks? Thank you.
I guess that depends on the field 😅 I'm from Europe and the fields I played at refill for free. So dunno how about that in US.
@@TheHed94Free here aswell
Does a 68 4500 hold the same amount of air as a 80 4500??
No, the 80c.i. will hold more.
I have a question but it’s not about tanks.
I have an P. E. etek2 and the barrel is stuck to the barrel tip. Did the etek2 come with a 2 piece barrel and, is it a normal thread? (By normal I mean right to tight left to loosen)
I have a Nano Inspire Paintball gun. The internal battery has run empty how do I recharge it?
How long can you store a tank with air in it and how much pressure is best for storing?
oklo
I have a question I’m looking to buy a mag fed gun but I wanna shot both 0.68cal and first strike what do you recommend?
Tippmann TCR is great for both.
@@ledfordbrett I thought they stopped selling those I've been looking for one
Valken m17 $299 on Amazon and shipping is free!!
question, can someone plz answer? Do air tanks come filled. like if I buy one will I get it to my house and its ready to go?
Depends they usually tell you if they come filled or not
@@Jacklyn_7631 nah im all good I got it filled its illegal to send it with air thanks anyways tho man.
@@floatingbritton2150 that's odd but then again everything i need for gear is like 10 minutes away. Kinda new recently got my first marker from friends. They told me they needed the gamer girl on the field lol. Hope you have a great day
@@Jacklyn_7631 you too :)
Thank goodness the tank i got was an airtank...i got that while i had my TMC and then upgraded to my Mini GS....didn't know at the time that CO² would kill my Mini GS
How long does the 48ci last
G.O.A.T. 🐐🐐
what do the adjuster knobs on both sides of regulator do ? one says 5 k and the other says 1.8 k .do i have to open those adjuster knobs to fill tank?
yup open it right up boss!
You didn’t answer if the output pressure would make the gun shoot harder ? For example if a marker says use max output pressure of 650psi and I use a output pressure of 500psi will the marker shoot weaker?
No, the regulator provides a constant output pressure regardless of the tanks PSI.
Can I put a 2200psi output reg on my paintball gun ? Ps (The gun doesn’t have reg)
Can someone tell me i got a dye rize czr and i don't know which tank i should pick
What tank would you choose for the CS2 ?
Ninja sl2 77ci.
I bought some tippmanns and i use co2 with a co2 fill Station at home and play with guests out in the woods it's way cheaper then buying a 1000$ hpa
are tank covers really good?
This may sound stupid. If you buy 4500psi bottle for the possible upgrade you want in the future, can you use it on a 3000Psi gun only if you fill the bottle to 3000?
Yes, you can use a 4.5k tank and fill it to 3k all day long, you cannot however fill a 3k to 4.5k as it is not rated for such.
@@xxsoulpatchxx3362 it will be fine i do it all the time at my field.
Hey guys, new to paintball here. If I get a ninja tank and I get to the point where it’s empty. Can I refill it somewhere or just discard?
What? Obviously refill why would you want to discard such an expensive item if it isn’t out of date?
Discard to my address
I still have all my co2 tanks 13 just sitting in a box in the garage
is it possible to change the location of the fill nozzle on a ninja tank?, mine is in a terrible spot it stabs me in the wrist while shooting right handed, thx cheers guys
Pretty sure you can get a little adapter that will go on the tank and get it in the right spot.
If it’s a pro v2 reg you can adjust it to where you want it
@@G_L_S does the infamous pro reg tank do the same thing
Ninja used to make shims that went between the reg and the asa, they're basically c-clips. It's not the best way to do it, but it is the easiest and the cheapest
@@noOnesafe007 ya the haymaker does let u adjust the fill nipple position. Be sure the tank is empty of all air when doing the adjustment.
How did the Hoopers get their name?
Great video for a beginner old guy wanting to mark squirrels in my pecan trees.
Speaking of tanks I hit y’all up on Facebook Messenger. 👍
pretty sure those mouthpieces of the cheap ones is brass and the tank steel
Will a Co2 tank work on my stormer elite
Can I fill my co2 bottle with compressed air or do I need to buy a whole other bottle to run compressed air??
You need to buy a compressed air tank. A CO2 tank isn't meant for compressed air and doesn't even have the fill nipple that's required.
Well that's silly, if a manufacturer is charging $160-400 for a tank, they should be making the gauges specific to that tanks capabilities, regardless of the connections are universal, the material for the tank doesn't cost that much to make. 🤣
You left out that they turn into expensive paperweights after 5 years.
You mean 15 yrs
Just depends on how they are treated and stored
This doesn't discuss carbon tanks
$50-$60 haha I got mine for $20
God and Jesus loves you all spread the gospel
I acknowledge Ninja for suficient quality but dont be saying merican quality to be something to be impressed by. I shurely am not. My XVR fell apart right out from the box. As generally chineese quality is badmouthed, they can be of superior quality as well. It is very individual what product you choose so no Americal is just as bad as my own countrys quality. Yes, do support local ! As you get the face to face interaction with the quality and can use leverage with personal relationships with manufacurer.
Better regs are a scam, if your keep your reg maintained. It's going to be just as good a Basic ninja reg is just as good as like a usa 200$ powerhouse.
👎😪