I like that you included all the stupid theories we came up with before actually finding the bug in the code. Goes to show how often we just have to grasp at straws until we can recreate the issue to debug it. This video also shows that there are a bunch of glitches a lot of researchers would never encounter, and wouldn't ve found unless someone casually comes across them. Researchers and testers focus on completely different areas of the code to break.
I would rather people say useless stuff than nothing at all because if you post something and no one comments on it, it gets pushed far away which makes it harder for newer people to see the post
When being impatient accidentally punishes players during boring win streak sessions... Very annoying indeed. Moral of the story, do not press B in the Battle Tower!
This could not have come out at a more perfect time because I'm currently working on getting the Multi Ability Ribbon for my Infernape, so I know what to avoid now! This was a very educational video!
you are making the history of gen 4 pokemon documentation i always found gen 4 mechanics, bugs and quirks to be very poorly documented until very recently hell, to this day, munchlax hunting is only ever vaguely explained by the most widespread internet sources thanks to your effort we are seeing those bugs and "features" discovered and explained in a comprehensive way, truly a wonderful day to be a gen 4 fan!
As someone who used to tap buttons to music a lot as a kid, I’m actually glad I had Pearl and not Platinum for once in my life. …Though I still would like a legitimate copy of Platinum. 😂
Ah so it WAS 'loading the battle tower save' just instead of being for buggy/failure to load reasons it was because of debug code that went ignored (well, I hope it was debug code). Cool, my idea wasn't too far off. Pokemon games continue to have the weirdest bugs
it's absolutely insane how much i've learned from your videos in such a short time, about games i've loved for decades. you keep this stuff engaging and easy to follow too. love the channel, can't wait to see what else you find!
Your content is really well-made, and I'm baffled at how original it is. I plan on making videos myself when I get my capture card, and you've inspired me to try to strive to make videos about topics (within Pokémon) that haven't been covered. I am also a huge gen 4 fan, so my videos will likely be somewhat centered around gen 4 as well. Keep up the great work!
As an early-career software engineer who got into coding because of video games, glitches in games have always fascinated me like few other things can. That is to say, I eat up content like this and I'm looking forward to seeing what other videos you have on your channel.
Great video! Can you still make that egg vid? You seem to have the most knowledge of this generation that I have seen and would love to keep learning more.
Does the glitch work by keeping B pressed? A leftover debug function that requires a frame perfect input doesn't really sound like a usable debug function
Gamefreak's debug tools almost certainly include the ability to schedule or pre-program inputs (similar to a TAS), which makes 1 frame windows ideal, as they're unlikely to be triggered on accident
On my GBA copy of Super Mario World (Super Mario Advance 2) back when I was a kid, I managed to casually hit the frame-perfect gray yoshi glitch where if your yoshi dies the exact frame a bullet bill spawns, your yoshi will come back gray with glitched properties after the level ends. For 2 decades I thought I was crazy because I'd never seen proof that this glitch existed on non-SNES versions of the game, but my old cart still had the save data when I finally got the ability to capture it: th-cam.com/video/zAM-VhXWA8o/w-d-xo.html
I streamer I watch found got an egg in plat that always looks shiny when you hatch it no matter the game you hatch it in, but then reverts to normal when you actually check it out (aka only looks shiny in the hatching screen). When he transferred the egg to the game where it was originated from it stayed shiny. have you seen this anywhere before and can you explain it somehow? I even have hi's backups of the unhatched egg and the game where it stays shiny and can confirm it's real
Hiya, I can explain this! It's actually the same bug that allows manaphy to become shiny when traded. The game will hatch a pokemon, and check if the pid/tidsid combo is a shiny Pokémon, and show it accordingly. However, after this, the current player's TIDSID will be written to the Pokémon. This means you are rolling again whether the Pokémon is shiny. This can be done for any egg, but is infamous for manaphy. It also explains why manaphy is never shiny on the hatching screen, since it's original pid never matches the shinyness for the tidsid. But after hatching in a different game, could be modified to be shiny after hatching! Also, this means that this streamer hatched an egg that happened to be shiny on the original game it was bred!
@@RETIREglitch Yes I know all about how shiny's and shiny eggs work after being traded but that doesn't at all explain why the egg ALWAYS hatches as shiny no matter the game you trade it to. it also doesn't explain why it looks shiny on the hatching screen but actually isn't shiny when you check it out.
@@tiagomatias6667 it does! Maybe I did not make myself completely clear: On the hatching screen, shinyness is determined based on the pid and tidsid of the original game the egg was created in. AFTER hatching the current player's tidsid is applied. So if the egg was bred to be shiny on the original game, it will look shiny on the hatching screen, then become un-shinied if the current game's tidsid doesn't match the shinyness of the pokémon's pid. I hope this explanation is more clear.
@@RETIREglitch OHHHH OMG TYSM! that literally explains everything! haha sorry, good thing to know. the streamer I'm speaking of had to discover this the hard way and suffer thru 2 hours of ideas being thrown at a brick wall until a chater finally had the idea to hatch it on the original game lol.
Does this work in multiplayer battle tower doubles lobbies? I wonder what happens in that instance when paired with a different version game. Probably a com error right?
What happens if one player triggers this when two players are doing a multi battle challenge together? It's probably just assumed to be a disconnect by the other player's game, but I'm curious
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I like that you included all the stupid theories we came up with before actually finding the bug in the code. Goes to show how often we just have to grasp at straws until we can recreate the issue to debug it.
This video also shows that there are a bunch of glitches a lot of researchers would never encounter, and wouldn't ve found unless someone casually comes across them. Researchers and testers focus on completely different areas of the code to break.
has any method for gen 5 ACE/ASE been found?
B to lose, L to taunt, F to pay respects.
You taunt with G
3:00 It's incredible how the forum commenters from 15 years ago and the reddit commenters of today are as useful as always!
I would rather people say useless stuff than nothing at all because if you post something and no one comments on it, it gets pushed far away which makes it harder for newer people to see the post
To be fair, it's really difficult to distinguish user error from a glitch when there's no video. Streaming it was a blessing.
The most useful commenters in history VS The most useful commenters of today
When you need an answer to an obscure question, Reddit and forums are the place to find them
Ah yes, the multi ability ribbon... Reminds me of that time I lost the 50th battle in a row.
When being impatient accidentally punishes players during boring win streak sessions... Very annoying indeed.
Moral of the story, do not press B in the Battle Tower!
attle Tower
This could not have come out at a more perfect time because I'm currently working on getting the Multi Ability Ribbon for my Infernape, so I know what to avoid now! This was a very educational video!
you are making the history of gen 4 pokemon documentation
i always found gen 4 mechanics, bugs and quirks to be very poorly documented until very recently
hell, to this day, munchlax hunting is only ever vaguely explained by the most widespread internet sources
thanks to your effort we are seeing those bugs and "features" discovered and explained in a comprehensive way, truly a wonderful day to be a gen 4 fan!
As someone who used to tap buttons to music a lot as a kid, I’m actually glad I had Pearl and not Platinum for once in my life.
…Though I still would like a legitimate copy of Platinum. 😂
Man I went from never thinking about pokemon glitches to making every one of these videos immediate viewing. Love this channel
I love that we are still finding such interesting bugs about these games that are so played still today
Ah so it WAS 'loading the battle tower save' just instead of being for buggy/failure to load reasons it was because of debug code that went ignored (well, I hope it was debug code). Cool, my idea wasn't too far off. Pokemon games continue to have the weirdest bugs
I feel like this happened to me as a kid once but I have no proof 💀
it's absolutely insane how much i've learned from your videos in such a short time, about games i've loved for decades. you keep this stuff engaging and easy to follow too. love the channel, can't wait to see what else you find!
Your content is really well-made, and I'm baffled at how original it is. I plan on making videos myself when I get my capture card, and you've inspired me to try to strive to make videos about topics (within Pokémon) that haven't been covered. I am also a huge gen 4 fan, so my videos will likely be somewhat centered around gen 4 as well.
Keep up the great work!
As an early-career software engineer who got into coding because of video games, glitches in games have always fascinated me like few other things can. That is to say, I eat up content like this and I'm looking forward to seeing what other videos you have on your channel.
So nice to learn something new to this day on old games
I love videos on obscure Pokémon glitches/features!!
September 27th 2024 to October 3rd 2024 is a quick turnaround. Wow!
Etchy all these recent videos of yours have been great, keep it up!
I cant believe I still learn something new about this Era of pokémon. Thank you for this content.
Woo yeah! More Etchy videos!
I just beat the pokemon league on my new platinum 100% play through, and I love your glitch videos, so perfectly timed lol
Well, that's certainly a punishment for those who mash. Even if maybe an unjust one.
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Let’s go Etchy!! More video essays! Also glitch hunting in let’s go when?! 😂
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep documenting these obscure gen 4 findings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was perfect timing!! I’m about to finish 2 Gen 3 ribbon masters and I was dreading the Gen 4 ribbons😭
Complains that Discord cannot be searched... proceeds to post a VIDEO about it 😂
Love this content, keep it up!!
Great video! Can you still make that egg vid? You seem to have the most knowledge of this generation that I have seen and would love to keep learning more.
I had this happen too and I never understood why
Does the glitch work by keeping B pressed? A leftover debug function that requires a frame perfect input doesn't really sound like a usable debug function
Gamefreak's debug tools almost certainly include the ability to schedule or pre-program inputs (similar to a TAS), which makes 1 frame windows ideal, as they're unlikely to be triggered on accident
On my GBA copy of Super Mario World (Super Mario Advance 2) back when I was a kid, I managed to casually hit the frame-perfect gray yoshi glitch where if your yoshi dies the exact frame a bullet bill spawns, your yoshi will come back gray with glitched properties after the level ends. For 2 decades I thought I was crazy because I'd never seen proof that this glitch existed on non-SNES versions of the game, but my old cart still had the save data when I finally got the ability to capture it: th-cam.com/video/zAM-VhXWA8o/w-d-xo.html
I streamer I watch found got an egg in plat that always looks shiny when you hatch it no matter the game you hatch it in, but then reverts to normal when you actually check it out (aka only looks shiny in the hatching screen). When he transferred the egg to the game where it was originated from it stayed shiny. have you seen this anywhere before and can you explain it somehow? I even have hi's backups of the unhatched egg and the game where it stays shiny and can confirm it's real
Hiya, I can explain this! It's actually the same bug that allows manaphy to become shiny when traded.
The game will hatch a pokemon, and check if the pid/tidsid combo is a shiny Pokémon, and show it accordingly. However, after this, the current player's TIDSID will be written to the Pokémon. This means you are rolling again whether the Pokémon is shiny.
This can be done for any egg, but is infamous for manaphy. It also explains why manaphy is never shiny on the hatching screen, since it's original pid never matches the shinyness for the tidsid. But after hatching in a different game, could be modified to be shiny after hatching!
Also, this means that this streamer hatched an egg that happened to be shiny on the original game it was bred!
@@RETIREglitch Yes I know all about how shiny's and shiny eggs work after being traded but that doesn't at all explain why the egg ALWAYS hatches as shiny no matter the game you trade it to. it also doesn't explain why it looks shiny on the hatching screen but actually isn't shiny when you check it out.
@@tiagomatias6667 it does! Maybe I did not make myself completely clear:
On the hatching screen, shinyness is determined based on the pid and tidsid of the original game the egg was created in. AFTER hatching the current player's tidsid is applied.
So if the egg was bred to be shiny on the original game, it will look shiny on the hatching screen, then become un-shinied if the current game's tidsid doesn't match the shinyness of the pokémon's pid. I hope this explanation is more clear.
@@RETIREglitch OHHHH OMG TYSM! that literally explains everything! haha sorry, good thing to know. the streamer I'm speaking of had to discover this the hard way and suffer thru 2 hours of ideas being thrown at a brick wall until a chater finally had the idea to hatch it on the original game lol.
Another banger from the goat!!
Does this work in multiplayer battle tower doubles lobbies? I wonder what happens in that instance when paired with a different version game. Probably a com error right?
Didn't think of trying this, good call. I'll give it a shot when I have a moment
absolute kino
What happens if one player triggers this when two players are doing a multi battle challenge together? It's probably just assumed to be a disconnect by the other player's game, but I'm curious