Veel internationals willen geen nederlands leren. Ik heb vriendinnen die hier al 9 jaar wonen en alleen de basis kunnen. Eigenlijk begin ik het ook vervelend te vinden dat ik me continu aan hun moet aanpassen terwijl ze hier al zo lang wonen. De hele avond engels praten is voor mij namelijk ook moeilijk en daardoor kom je ook niet tot diepere lagen in je vriendschap
In elk geval meer dan de basis "hey hoe gaat het?". Ze zijn onzeker over hoe het klinkt. Nederlands is een moeilijke taal om te leren dus de uitspraak van de meeste zal nooit goed zijn. Als we elkaar maar begrijpen, toch?
You don’t have to be so annoyed about it, though. Many Dutch speakers are happy to switch to English to accommodate those of us who find Dutch a bit difficult still. By habit, my Dutch colleagues would speak to each other in Dutch even when I am around. I just zone out at the point when I can’t follow anymore. They also don’t mind if I reply in English when they speak to me in Dutch.
"Is Dordrecht a town or a city?" Fun fact: Dordrecht is actually the oldest city in Holland (as in the region), it was granted city rights prior to 1200 AD.
Heerlijk om jullie een uur lang gezellig te horen kletsen. Het voelt bijna alsof we op een Nederlandse kringverjaardag zitten en lekker aan het klagen zijn met zijn allen 😂😂
I would say regarding the language thing. I know lots of people here in Amsterdam that refuse to speak English anymore. I see the following three reasons: 1. One reason i see a lot is because all the stores started hiring English speaking workers. To the point that it is rare to see a Dutch speaking employee at all. i Think the locals are annoyed by that a lot. 2. There is also a recent (last 5/8 years) change in how tourists are seen. They are not liked very much anymore. This happend because almost half of the people in the city would be tourists. And the city, especially the inner parts, are not livable anymore. 3. There is a growing nationalistic view here. This is mainly because of the housing crisis and migrants. But it is also a longer/larger (even global) trend of moving away from multiculturalism and globalism.
Please don't kill spiders. They are incredibly useful critters! They get rid of the _really_ annoying insect like mosquitos, fleas, silverfish, bed bugs, etc. Most spiders in your house (like the common house spider) hide and only come out at night. And they are scared of people so most of the time won't come anywhere near you. The long legged spiders are very useful too. They stay in the same place and only wander in small areas so most of the time you know where they are. If they do scare you, just catch them and put them outside. They will find a way back into your home again but at least it gives you some peace of mind.
@@AnOnymous-go7kn yeah. In my home I have manually moved a really nice looking spider to next to my window/recycle bins to catch fruit flies and mosquitoes. He has a nice web, very pretty spider to look at, does not get scared of me and just sits in his web in the sun catching the bugs I don't want in my house. At my birthday I especially put up a note next to him: Don't kill the spider. He is my friend and eats the annoying fruit flies and mosquitoes 😉
There are certain products like sunscreen, toothpaste, toiletries, and deodorant that are always on sale somewhere. I would never just buy a single item at the regular price. It's pretty crazy when you think about it.
ive seen pretty much all your videos. while i love all the food and travel vlogs, my favourites are when you guys do social/cultural/political stuff. keep it up!😄 about the buy 1 get 1 sales: you make a good point, never really thought about it much. dutch people love a good deal, i was always raised with the idea to act on them to avoid paying higher prices in the future. companies also definitely love making money though
@@elsbethfongers4476 Of in de lente bij de Vomar. Zij hebben ieder voorjaar de Nivea zonnebrand in de aanbieding. Datzelfde flesje dat bij de Etos €23 kost, kost dan bij de Vomar €4,99.
Zeer geslaagd! Surprised, but very pleasantly, with your 1st "podcast". These type of conversations are way more useful for anyone coming to the Netherlands than all the videos infested with the meme topics. Hope this will give you a bit of a bigger audience with non-Dutch listeners/watchers. I think for us "Dutchies" it's also interesting to hear what actual experiences are like, and it gives us a little more insight in you as fellow humans as well. Bedankt!
Promotions at Kruidvat, Etos or Albert Heijn, for example, are more 'feel-good promotions'. You don't actually get a second product 'free', for example. You're essentially paying too much for a branded product every time you buy it. In other words: you buy 1 and pay for 5. Then you supposedly get 1 or 2 'free'. A bottle of shower gel costs the manufacturer only 40 cents in contents and packaging, but it is sold for 8 or 9 times the price. Don't fall for that. If you want to save money, choose the house brand. If you want to stick with your favorite brand because you are very satisfied with it, you can consider ordering it in bulk via the internet. Then you pay a lower amount per piece than in the supermarket.
Smash a spider? As a Dutch you are obligated to catch it in a cup with a piece of paper and set it free. Or just leave it in the house so it can catch insects for you.
My late wife's favorite sandwich: Young Gouda cheese on a roomboter tijgerbrood. I remember coming back from The Netherlands and surprising her with a loaf of Tijgerbrood and 1 kilo of young Gouda cheese.
When I was in the US, people were amazed about my English vocabulary and asked if I spoke more languages besides English, so I told them I spoke German, French, Spanish and Norwegian on A1 level beside English and Dutch. They where amazed. But I truly think that not learning Spanish at a young age (like we Dutch learn English at the age of 7 or 8) is a shortcoming in the US, which is a bilingual nation. As soon as you learn the differences and grammar of other languages, it becomes more easy to learn more (especially when you understand the difference between Latin based and Anglo-Saxon based languages)
totally agree. i think it’s just politicized, which is silly, because learning another language is not only good for future language learning, it also broadens your horizons and opens your mind :)
Een tip over kaas kopen: wanneer je een stuk koopt (geen plakken) heb je over het algemeen 2 soorten. Los van de rijpingsduur. Een ronde kaas (wiel) en een vierkante kaas. De zouten en andere ingrediënten komen beter tot een mix in een ronde vorm, dus lekkerder! Proef het verschil eens naast elkaar.
The HEMA breakfast is much better than McD’s. I am very glad we do not have the whole range of fast food chains here. The huge suger loaded soda’s and greasy burger/chicken etc stuff are only mortal obesity/diabetes inducing low quality “food” items, I am happily doing without.
On Kaas : Try on a tosty the Extra belegen (purple).. it melts slowly, so use some extra baking fat and turn regular using a baking pan. Overjarige kaas is nice in a mixed salad when crumbled..
I like this format. I will listen to it. Goudse kaas is defined by the shape and fat content. There are so many different goudse kazen. Albert Heijn sells zaanlander, maaslander, beemster, oud amsterdam and their own brand all with the different ages. They all have their unique taste. It may be a fun idea to get a selection from a good cheese monger and do a taste test.
Cheese: you have Gouda, Maaslander, Maasdammer, Beemster, Edam, Leerdammer, Zaanlander, Milner, Kollumer, Leidse, Friese-nagelkaas, Graskaas, Stolwijker, all (or most) come in jong, belegen, oud. Then there's Kernhem, various blue cheeses (like Wolvega). You should try overjarige Goudse. 3 years. If you really want to see the variety, go to specialty shops (not the ones aimed at tourists) or local markets.
The cheese thing is interesting. I think because cheese is such a staple food here, there's not much variation in the cheese most people eat on a day to day basis. Most people want the same thing for breakfast most days. When that's a cheese sandwich, it's gotta be a basic, reliable cheese. Once in a while you'll want to have a special cheese meal, and then you go to a cheese shop. Like how in France, where bread is a staple food for many meals, there's not much variation in the bread you get at the average grocery store. Oh and for a tosti, make a mix of grated aged and young cheese for the combination of the perfect melty fattiness and the best flavor.
Michelle is on point with her hypothesis about it, we are a nation of (finding) discounts. Hence big prices but often a good discount. German drugstores seldom have discounts but just low prices all the time. Thus you can find products decent prices if you buy in bulk over here, but if you need something right now, you really need to pony up.
There is a 1000 dagen cheese, referred to as ''the crowning achievement of the art of Dutch cheese making''. The cheese is ripened under ideal conditions for 1000 days.
Volg jullie kanaal al een tijdje en ben gek op de citytrips en recensies van voedsel en eetgelegenheden. Dit vlog concept is imho ook zeer geslaagd! echt leuk om te zien en luisteren, zeker als Michelle op dreef is👌veel succes 🍀 ik kijk al uit naar jullie volgende post.
I don't think that anyone expects a fully researched video on this channel. You always made it clear that your reports are based on your own opinions and experiences in daily life and in interacting with Dutch people. If someone feels offended by what you have noticed than that's their problem. Has got nothing to do with you. You're doing great and it's always a joy to hear your (in my view) reasonably unbiased opinions and views on the Netherlands.
having a basic knowledge of a language and trying to use it certainly will earn you respect. People will go the extra mile even if their english isn't good enough.
What an eye-opener! I was not aware that beauty products over here are so expensive compared to our neighbouring countries, as a Dutchie I know no better. I wonder why, it cannot just be the BTW. But that explains why there are weekly products on sale (like 1 + 1 for free) without shops going bankrupt.
This was seriously a fun vlog Alex and Michelle. And yes, drugstore products are extremely expensive here. Apart from a slightly higher VAT, this also has to do with the fact that not so many people live here and the negotiating position with manufacturers is weaker. In Germany, because of the 80 million inhabitants (instead of 18 million here), they can also purchase a much larger volume. And shopkeepers here often rent a building and the rent here is also huge due to lack of real estate. If you need a word for Michelle, here's one: "langdradig." That's kind of how this vlog started.
Overjarige kaas met honingmosterd zoooo lekker. You can get it at albertheijn XL as well in the 'fresh' section. Best thing is to go to the market or cheese store thoooo. And if you are at it: get stolwijker or boer jaap jong belegen. Jammieeee
Grote zonnebrand tip: haal Zenova zonnespray Clear & Protect SPF 30 bij de Action 😁 Die is 5x goedkoper dan Nivea bij de Kruidvat (4,95 voor 200ml in plaats van 24,49 voor 200ml), geeft geen witte vegen, is een spray, en ik verbrand nooit als ik die gebruik terwijl ik normaal super snel verbrand. Echt een aanrader!
You should go to a DM store in Germany and compare prices with Etos and Kruidvat, its totally ridiculous ! Often Dutch stores are 2 to 4 times more expensive. Thats not a "VAT" issue by the way, dutch vat is 21%, German 19%, so that cant be the difference. Example: Deodorant Netherlands 3-4 euro, Germany (DM) 0,75euro. DMs brand Balea are really good products by the way. Also makeup, most of the time 50% cheaper.
As for cosmetics and sunscreen, the drug stores have their own house brands and these products are good quality and usually cheapest. I always buy Kruidvat house brand sunscreen.
Good discussion. About learning and speaking the native language: not only is it respectful, language also is the gateway to its culture. Truly, when you understand the native language, you can start to build op meaningful relationships with those around you.
If you're gonna go to a cheeseshop be sure to ask 4 'brokkelkaas' which is really old and maybe has saltcrystals in them.. and do not forget to ask for 'boerenkaas' this also comes in an age variety bus is more artisanal.. Also a good tip is to go to the market instead of a cheeseshop.. prices are lower and the quality is similar.. plus.. it is not uncommon to get a taste sample before you buy..
I do not agree with the statement that the supermarkets have similar cheeses to cheese shops. Jonge kaas is very boring in the supermarkets. In a cheese shop jonge kaas can have flavors closer to an older cheese. oude kaas (my favorite) is really dry and far las flavourful then the oude kaas in the cheese shops. Supermarket oude kaas is closer to a really old and dry belegen kaas. You know that you have a good oude kaas when you can smell it trough the package. It should be smooth not dry.
@@ThaLioN987 Agree.. However.. cheeseshops can get prices bumped up to way too high.. dutch saying: 'op de markt is je gulden een daalder waard' still holds true. Young cheese like 'graskaas' or even younger like 'meikaas' are better than in the supermarket.. supermarketcheese is only 4 grating/eaten with some mustard/grilled cheese..
I thought I knew what you meant with old cheese doesn't melt, but I make aged cheese toasties all the time and it definitley melts. It doesn't become extreme soft stringy cheese like mozarella or young cheese, but its definitely melted and tastes different from non toasted aged cheese IMO
In the Netherlands cheese names are actually protected by law: Jonge kaas: 4 weken Jong belegen: 8 tot 10 weken Belegen: 16 tot 18 weken Extra belegen: 7 tot 8 maanden Oude kaas: 10 tot 12 maanden Overjarige kaas: 18 maanden of meer Overjarige kaas you will never find in the supermarket: when cheese ages it becomes more expensive: 1) the time to store it and turn it every so often. Time/storage room/taking care of it = money 2) moisture evaporates, so flavor becomes more intense, but your cheese becomes lighter. So with age not only the storage time costs money, but the cheese will weight less and less each month. So price per kilo goes up exponentially Overjarige kaas is too expensive for a supermarket and also, got so much moisture extracted that you can't slice/cut it. It will only crumble and you got special knives for it to handle that the best way Love your channel ❤
What is more important to know about language is that people with dementia fall back to the language they learned as a child. They lose their second language. I worked in a nursing home where a woman got dementia and only remembered how to speak German. So for that I'm grateful that we learn different languages at school so at least we know what they try to say and not get completed isolated from everyone because no one can communicate with them.
Maybe also, you should look at who the parent companies are of the products like toiletries. Univé has always been a Dutch company, and market leader. Nivea is obviously German, so cheaper in Germany. Etos is a chain owned by Albert Heijn.
Calvé pindakaas plain or creamy is my favourite, on a slice of white tijgerbrood with butter and pindakaas and a glass of melk. loved it as a kid and still do. Also pindakaas met pure hagelsag is nomnom
Of course, but the worst you'll get from a spider in the Netherlands is something akin to a European bee sting. And it is quite rare to be bitten by a spider in the Netherlands.
Dordrecht is a city since 1220, one of the oldest in Holland. There is another city Geertruidenberg which used to be in the County of Holland, but since the French occupation became part of the province of Noord-Brabant, that has earlier city rights 1213.
Cheese you heat at anyway is an art. Like a tostie you like old cheese you need to mix your cheese. Get an grated mozzarella young gouda mix and put the old cheese on that. You want some ham on it or sause put that on top and put some of the mozzarella mix on top of that. This way you get the melt in the bread and you get the old cheese also. Many different ways to do this, but this is my way.
Hebben jullie overwogen om jullie dagelijkse interacties met winkelmedewerkers op te nemen en eens in de zoveel tijd een compilatie met de meest interessante situaties online te zetten? Ik denk dat het zowel nuttig als leuk kan zijn als mensen zien hoe jullie om gaan met Nederlanders die naar het Engels overschakelen, of jullie problemen met het vinden van de juiste woorden, enz. Mijn vermoeden is dat als jullie kijkers jullie echt de moeite zien nemen om in het Nederlands deel te nemen aan de samenleving dat het een grote aanmoediging kan zijn voor hen om ook het 'risico' te nemen om stom en onhandig over te komen. We zien immers zelden mensen die een taal leren die wij zelfs ook zouden moeten leren en daar moeite mee hebben.
Toen mijn vrouw bij mij in Nederland kwam wonen deed zij op een gegeven moment alsof ze ons niet begreep wanneer we Engels spraken. Ze wilde graag Nederlands leren maar iedereen om haar heen ging steeds naar Engels...
Interesting video. Although I agree with all the comments about how annoying all the adjustments to the microphone were, plus it didn't make any difference to the sound anyway!
PLEASE, 1000 or more videos like this. It seems much more honest to me than 'oh look how good the Netherlands is'. Not that you are dishonest, on the contrary, but it gives much more clarity to your impressions about e.g. 'our' cheese' and so many other things that are common to us but not to others
Dairy; dark blue is full fat milk, light blue is semi skimmed, red is ... karnemelk is not buttermilk! Go to a Polish supermarket and get buttermilk there. Dark blue cap and TASTY 🙂 And look at the SALAMI; no, the packs of small round cheese slices. Says salami on the package 🤪
20:07 : "most of the time it's going to be Gouda cheese". And there you are completely mistaken. Most Dutch cheeses come in age categories. But the regional differences will be huge. Gouda cheese is from Gouda, so Zuid-Holland. It tastes quite different compared to cheese from Noord-Holland, like Beemster. The differences with farm cheese are even more pronounced. Very much depending on the soil and vegetation the cows have access to. The main issue is that pre-packing cheese kills it. Cheese needs to breathe. So packed cheese from the supermarket tends to taste more similar despite its difference in origin. Same goes for packed bread. Both are substandard. To be truly able to judge you need to buy cheese from a cheese shop, or better still from a market stall or 'zelfkazende boer'. And remember to ask about its origin. And foremost buy your bread from a 'warme bakker'.
Love the discussions! jong belegen is red :) Beemster is a very nice cheese, that you can get in the supermarket, but I mostly get cheese from the market, as you have more choice and better quality. My favourite cheese is Jong belegen Komijn. edit: Oh sorry! Ik begon in het Engels te typen 😂 Ik vind het echt supergoed hoe jullie met Nederlands leren bezig zijn, petje af!
Maar die fles als vaas kan echt niet hoor. Bij jullie in Dordt zit zo'n mooie grote Opnieuw & Co kringloopwinkel. Daar staat vast wel iets beters. Misschien zelfs wel een mooi stukje Scandinavisch mid-century design. (Het zal niet voor het eerst zijn dat er een stuk goed design bij de kringloop op te pikken valt. Dat is tenminste mijn ervaring.)
Interesting video. I mean podcast. Also, I also always buy jong belegen. The housebrand one from Plus is the best I think. If you go to de kaasboer there is way more distinction between the different types btw. In supermarkets the type is also a bit relevant, but if bought quick like that the age is more important because the quality of taste between the types is less noticeable. Edit: Cheese in NL is a thing for a reason and if you go outside the supermarkets there is a world of tastes and types to explore and enjoy.
Would love a podcast from you guys. I'm a big podcast listener and have done a few podcasts for my food blog. One thing I noticed is that the casual conversation in this episode reminds me of your Twitch stream. Miss that, but I'm fine with the stuff you are currently doing.
As for Dutch people switching to English or not, I think one part just likes to practice English and they do it a lot in their social life in general and/or their work. And people who like to communicate more easily. Others aren't very interested in speaking another language in general.
My favorite cheese in the Netherlands was the Albert Heijn Extra Belegen Gouda (used to be in purple packaging), just the regular type. But this is an idea for an episode for you two. Do an episode on all the different types of Gouda cheese in the Netherlands. For example Farmer’s cheese extra Belegen does not taste the same as the regular extra Belegen. There are so many other types of Gouda cheese.
For cosmetics, toiletries, self care and certain over the counter medicine it is much cheaper in Germany. Once every month or two we go there ourselves, we buy our coca cola there too at 1.75 euro's for 1,5 liter bottle. Here in the Netherlands it's 2.60 Euro.
Cool, but this is still mostly about very practical differences. I'd be curious for you to dive deeper, what do you find of the Dutch psyche, our collective paradigms, certainly when compared to the USA. How do our convictions work through in everything we do.
Thank you for not you "expat" - I'm so annoyed with that word - being a Polish person in UK I was always described as immigrant (which is correct) but somehow this description made me a second category, in comparison to a British immigrant in Spain, who called themselves expats. I wonder if price difference for cosmetics is because a different rate of VAT in NL? We been here now 6 months and we really like it, you helped a lot, thank you !
Netherlands have a discount culture with healthcare and beauty products, discounts go as far as 3 for price of 1 or 70% off. So if you buy out side of the discount window you get screwed over, it's to get maximum profit from people with little time. 50% off is the real price of many products.
@@Iamsanni Tax and wages are higher here, but base prices are much higher because they wanna get most from people who don't take time to shop for discounts.
Overjarige kaas wordt meestal geserveerd als borrelgarnituur: 'kaas uit het vuistje'. Ze is zo oud en droog, dat het zout is gaan kristalliseren, en het knispert een beetje als je er in bijt. Ze gaat goed samen met (oude) port.
In NL there is not much competition on the drogisterij market. 3 dominate the market: Kruidvat, Etos and DA. Thats why prices are (can be) so high here.
Buncharted: Your chees experience needs a major overhaul. Check your grocery AH/jbo and such , compare that to either chees directly from a cheese farm/ store Kaashuis . Also a sandwich is not the only purpose for cheese . Like kaasplankje / borrel , or different dishes for dinners or kaasfondue Should be a lot of fun doing an episode 2.0
A Sandwich always uses sliced bread !! if something is on a bun or bread-roll it is either a burger or a broodje , that’s not even a Dutch thing but British since that where the name comes from ( thank the Earl of Sandwich for that one) so KFC is not wrong 😉
A few years ago, KFC had mashed potatoes with gravy. It disappeared within months though. I did actually like it! I just wish they would offer rice besides fries, like they do in Indonesia...
My friend runs a drug store and he say Dutch people just LOVE the buy 1 get 1 free type deals and that is when they come to your store. This works better than just standard lower prices like in Germany apparently
I like my tosti with rookkaas (smoked cheese) and ham. And instead of using butter I put mayonaise on the sides that you'll fry in the pan. It is sooooo yummy. By the way we went saturday to foodhall Mout in Hilversum thanks to your last video and it was 👍 👌
My opinion on the product prices, like import stuff is of course first of all the tax, its always been extremely high here so makes it more expensive, but also and this is my reasoning/opinion we are a country of only 17,5/18 mill people compared to france 68 mill and germany 84 mill so when shops there buy in bulk from say Maybelline they get it for cheaper cause they have to buy more and distribute that all over the country in the shops, when our shops buy that stuff they can buy it in large quantities but probably wont sell as much as the Germans or french, so more unlikely that they buy it in as large quantities as German/french shops do, but for an import/export country this are getting out of hand here for sure, that's why i love our German neighbours 😂.
Loved it! Nice to have unscripted dialogue about things. But stop moving her mic every 2 minutes! Its probably a me thing but it bugged me (sorry). Someone else mentioned you can flip the micstands to mic from below. Another thing to think about is to do either lav mics or mic from above just out of view (with hypercardiod mics). Yes its a podcast style but its nice to see your faces. Keep it up!
Veel internationals willen geen nederlands leren. Ik heb vriendinnen die hier al 9 jaar wonen en alleen de basis kunnen. Eigenlijk begin ik het ook vervelend te vinden dat ik me continu aan hun moet aanpassen terwijl ze hier al zo lang wonen. De hele avond engels praten is voor mij namelijk ook moeilijk en daardoor kom je ook niet tot diepere lagen in je vriendschap
zij zouden vloeiend nederlands moeten spreken, denk ik
In elk geval meer dan de basis "hey hoe gaat het?". Ze zijn onzeker over hoe het klinkt. Nederlands is een moeilijke taal om te leren dus de uitspraak van de meeste zal nooit goed zijn. Als we elkaar maar begrijpen, toch?
ja, precies!
ik vind dat "soort" mensen irritant..
Ik werk op de trein, en weiger soms te switchen naar engels.. haha
You don’t have to be so annoyed about it, though. Many Dutch speakers are happy to switch to English to accommodate those of us who find Dutch a bit difficult still. By habit, my Dutch colleagues would speak to each other in Dutch even when I am around. I just zone out at the point when I can’t follow anymore. They also don’t mind if I reply in English when they speak to me in Dutch.
"Is Dordrecht a town or a city?"
Fun fact: Dordrecht is actually the oldest city in Holland (as in the region), it was granted city rights prior to 1200 AD.
Heerlijk om jullie een uur lang gezellig te horen kletsen. Het voelt bijna alsof we op een Nederlandse kringverjaardag zitten en lekker aan het klagen zijn met zijn allen 😂😂
I would say regarding the language thing. I know lots of people here in Amsterdam that refuse to speak English anymore. I see the following three reasons:
1. One reason i see a lot is because all the stores started hiring English speaking workers. To the point that it is rare to see a Dutch speaking employee at all. i Think the locals are annoyed by that a lot.
2. There is also a recent (last 5/8 years) change in how tourists are seen. They are not liked very much anymore. This happend because almost half of the people in the city would be tourists. And the city, especially the inner parts, are not livable anymore.
3. There is a growing nationalistic view here. This is mainly because of the housing crisis and migrants. But it is also a longer/larger (even global) trend of moving away from multiculturalism and globalism.
Please don't kill spiders. They are incredibly useful critters! They get rid of the _really_ annoying insect like mosquitos, fleas, silverfish, bed bugs, etc. Most spiders in your house (like the common house spider) hide and only come out at night. And they are scared of people so most of the time won't come anywhere near you. The long legged spiders are very useful too. They stay in the same place and only wander in small areas so most of the time you know where they are. If they do scare you, just catch them and put them outside. They will find a way back into your home again but at least it gives you some peace of mind.
@@AnOnymous-go7kn yeah. In my home I have manually moved a really nice looking spider to next to my window/recycle bins to catch fruit flies and mosquitoes.
He has a nice web, very pretty spider to look at, does not get scared of me and just sits in his web in the sun catching the bugs I don't want in my house.
At my birthday I especially put up a note next to him:
Don't kill the spider. He is my friend and eats the annoying fruit flies and mosquitoes 😉
You can't - win - native speaker status. But you can become very good. Jullie zijn prettig postief, dat is altijd gezellig :)
Cheese we got komijne kaas,leidse,gras kaas,nagel kaas,netel kaas,boeren kaas, enz enz.
There are certain products like sunscreen, toothpaste, toiletries, and deodorant that are always on sale somewhere. I would never just buy a single item at the regular price. It's pretty crazy when you think about it.
I always check websites or sales. Etos regularly has good sales as well. Especially for body and hair care.
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Gesneden = Sliced.
Besneden = Circumcized.
Gescheiden = Divorced.
Definitely a lot of chances to cock up when using the wrong one.
To top it off ; Bescheiden= Humble
Gescheiden is also 'separate(d)'
Ik dacht misschien dat ze bescheten zei
And it all describes seperation in some form. 😁
Hahahaha 😂
Just flip mic arms upside down, so mics would be sticking from the bottom and not covering faces
ive seen pretty much all your videos. while i love all the food and travel vlogs, my favourites are when you guys do social/cultural/political stuff. keep it up!😄 about the buy 1 get 1 sales: you make a good point, never really thought about it much. dutch people love a good deal, i was always raised with the idea to act on them to avoid paying higher prices in the future. companies also definitely love making money though
Koop je zonnebrandcrème gewoon bij Lidl. Goedkoop en komt altijd goed uit de testen. Ik geef nooit meer dan €7/€8 uit aan een flesje.
@@elsbethfongers4476 Of in de lente bij de Vomar. Zij hebben ieder voorjaar de Nivea zonnebrand in de aanbieding. Datzelfde flesje dat bij de Etos €23 kost, kost dan bij de Vomar €4,99.
Zeer geslaagd! Surprised, but very pleasantly, with your 1st "podcast". These type of conversations are way more useful for anyone coming to the Netherlands than all the videos infested with the meme topics. Hope this will give you a bit of a bigger audience with non-Dutch listeners/watchers. I think for us "Dutchies" it's also interesting to hear what actual experiences are like, and it gives us a little more insight in you as fellow humans as well. Bedankt!
Promotions at Kruidvat, Etos or Albert Heijn, for example, are more 'feel-good promotions'. You don't actually get a second product 'free', for example. You're essentially paying too much for a branded product every time you buy it. In other words: you buy 1 and pay for 5. Then you supposedly get 1 or 2 'free'. A bottle of shower gel costs the manufacturer only 40 cents in contents and packaging, but it is sold for 8 or 9 times the price. Don't fall for that. If you want to save money, choose the house brand. If you want to stick with your favorite brand because you are very satisfied with it, you can consider ordering it in bulk via the internet. Then you pay a lower amount per piece than in the supermarket.
Over 3 jaar is dit een nederlands-talig kanaal, jullie zijn heel goed bezig!
Smash a spider? As a Dutch you are obligated to catch it in a cup with a piece of paper and set it free. Or just leave it in the house so it can catch insects for you.
well, it lives here with us now 😅
@@buncharted2More spiders means less insects!
@@buncharted2 hahaha accept the status quo now 😂😜
@@kelvinmulderEvery room in my home has a resident spider. 😉
@@buncharted2 ......until Sashimi finds it and uses it for lunch 😜
Ik zou het leuk vinden als jullie een (korte) video in het Nederlands zouden maken.
My late wife's favorite sandwich: Young Gouda cheese on a roomboter tijgerbrood. I remember coming back from The Netherlands and surprising her with a loaf of Tijgerbrood and 1 kilo of young Gouda cheese.
Tijgerbrood and cheese goes hard
I think this format will work. Enjoyed it!
Yes! maybe 40 minutes max is better
When I was in the US, people were amazed about my English vocabulary and asked if I spoke more languages besides English, so I told them I spoke German, French, Spanish and Norwegian on A1 level beside English and Dutch. They where amazed. But I truly think that not learning Spanish at a young age (like we Dutch learn English at the age of 7 or 8) is a shortcoming in the US, which is a bilingual nation. As soon as you learn the differences and grammar of other languages, it becomes more easy to learn more (especially when you understand the difference between Latin based and Anglo-Saxon based languages)
totally agree. i think it’s just politicized, which is silly, because learning another language is not only good for future language learning, it also broadens your horizons and opens your mind :)
Thanks for the shout-out haha! Been thinking about that conversation every day 😭😂 made me realize that Dutch has some very……special words 😅
Hele leuke podcast Michelle & Alex! Ik ben NU al nieuwsgierig naar de volgende.....
If y'all have a hankering for some hash browns try 'Rosti Rondjes' in the freezer section.. Like this show format btw!
Een tip over kaas kopen: wanneer je een stuk koopt (geen plakken) heb je over het algemeen 2 soorten. Los van de rijpingsduur. Een ronde kaas (wiel) en een vierkante kaas. De zouten en andere ingrediënten komen beter tot een mix in een ronde vorm, dus lekkerder! Proef het verschil eens naast elkaar.
The HEMA breakfast is much better than McD’s. I am very glad we do not have the whole range of fast food chains here. The huge suger loaded soda’s and greasy burger/chicken etc stuff are only mortal obesity/diabetes inducing low quality “food” items, I am happily doing without.
Actually, You can buy hash browns in the stores. They are called "Rosti rondjes" and are round instead of rectangular. Otherwise they are the same.
On Kaas : Try on a tosty the Extra belegen (purple).. it melts slowly, so use some extra baking fat and turn regular using a baking pan. Overjarige kaas is nice in a mixed salad when crumbled..
The way Alex pronounced ‘gescheiden’ was almost perfect. Kudos to you bc it’s a difficult word with two g’s in it.
I live near the German border and go grocery shopping there at least once a month. I like the prices and the products.
Don't be scared ..! Overjarig is so good..👍
Yeah perfect to snack on with wine for example, but for a sandwich etc I think oud is more suited..
I like this format. I will listen to it. Goudse kaas is defined by the shape and fat content. There are so many different goudse kazen. Albert Heijn sells zaanlander, maaslander, beemster, oud amsterdam and their own brand all with the different ages. They all have their unique taste. It may be a fun idea to get a selection from a good cheese monger and do a taste test.
Cheese: you have Gouda, Maaslander, Maasdammer, Beemster, Edam, Leerdammer, Zaanlander, Milner, Kollumer, Leidse, Friese-nagelkaas, Graskaas, Stolwijker, all (or most) come in jong, belegen, oud. Then there's Kernhem, various blue cheeses (like Wolvega).
You should try overjarige Goudse. 3 years.
If you really want to see the variety, go to specialty shops (not the ones aimed at tourists) or local markets.
Goede video, guys. Erg onderhoudend! En jullie Nederlands wordt steeds beter!
The cheese thing is interesting. I think because cheese is such a staple food here, there's not much variation in the cheese most people eat on a day to day basis. Most people want the same thing for breakfast most days. When that's a cheese sandwich, it's gotta be a basic, reliable cheese. Once in a while you'll want to have a special cheese meal, and then you go to a cheese shop. Like how in France, where bread is a staple food for many meals, there's not much variation in the bread you get at the average grocery store.
Oh and for a tosti, make a mix of grated aged and young cheese for the combination of the perfect melty fattiness and the best flavor.
Michelle is on point with her hypothesis about it, we are a nation of (finding) discounts. Hence big prices but often a good discount. German drugstores seldom have discounts but just low prices all the time. Thus you can find products decent prices if you buy in bulk over here, but if you need something right now, you really need to pony up.
There is a 1000 dagen cheese, referred to as ''the crowning achievement of the art of Dutch cheese making''. The cheese is ripened under ideal conditions for 1000 days.
I love watching you guys... it's like relaxing with some friends and at the same time I learn things about my own country!
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Volg jullie kanaal al een tijdje en ben gek op de citytrips en recensies van voedsel en eetgelegenheden. Dit vlog concept is imho ook zeer geslaagd! echt leuk om te zien en luisteren, zeker als Michelle op dreef is👌veel succes 🍀 ik kijk al uit naar jullie volgende post.
I don't think that anyone expects a fully researched video on this channel. You always made it clear that your reports are based on your own opinions and experiences in daily life and in interacting with Dutch people. If someone feels offended by what you have noticed than that's their problem. Has got nothing to do with you.
You're doing great and it's always a joy to hear your (in my view) reasonably unbiased opinions and views on the Netherlands.
having a basic knowledge of a language and trying to use it certainly will earn you respect. People will go the extra mile even if their english isn't good enough.
What an eye-opener! I was not aware that beauty products over here are so expensive compared to our neighbouring countries, as a Dutchie I know no better. I wonder why, it cannot just be the BTW. But that explains why there are weekly products on sale (like 1 + 1 for free) without shops going bankrupt.
This was seriously a fun vlog Alex and Michelle. And yes, drugstore products are extremely expensive here. Apart from a slightly higher VAT, this also has to do with the fact that not so many people live here and the negotiating position with manufacturers is weaker. In Germany, because of the 80 million inhabitants (instead of 18 million here), they can also purchase a much larger volume. And shopkeepers here often rent a building and the rent here is also huge due to lack of real estate. If you need a word for Michelle, here's one: "langdradig." That's kind of how this vlog started.
There are also cheeses that are 3 years old, you can find them at the specialty section of grocery stores and cheese shops. There's no sliced version.
Watching your videos I never realized you guys have great voices for a podcast. Keep on going!
Carrefour is French for Crossroad. Hence the two arrows in the logo. In English, pronounce it as car-eh-foor.
Overjarige kaas met honingmosterd zoooo lekker. You can get it at albertheijn XL as well in the 'fresh' section. Best thing is to go to the market or cheese store thoooo. And if you are at it: get stolwijker or boer jaap jong belegen. Jammieeee
Grote zonnebrand tip: haal Zenova zonnespray Clear & Protect SPF 30 bij de Action 😁 Die is 5x goedkoper dan Nivea bij de Kruidvat (4,95 voor 200ml in plaats van 24,49 voor 200ml), geeft geen witte vegen, is een spray, en ik verbrand nooit als ik die gebruik terwijl ik normaal super snel verbrand. Echt een aanrader!
You should go to a DM store in Germany and compare prices with Etos and Kruidvat, its totally ridiculous !
Often Dutch stores are 2 to 4 times more expensive. Thats not a "VAT" issue by the way, dutch vat is 21%, German 19%, so that cant be the difference.
Example: Deodorant Netherlands 3-4 euro, Germany (DM) 0,75euro. DMs brand Balea are really good products by the way.
Also makeup, most of the time 50% cheaper.
As for cosmetics and sunscreen, the drug stores have their own house brands and these products are good quality and usually cheapest. I always buy Kruidvat house brand sunscreen.
Dit was leuk om naar te luisteren 👍
Good discussion. About learning and speaking the native language: not only is it respectful, language also is the gateway to its culture. Truly, when you understand the native language, you can start to build op meaningful relationships with those around you.
The spider is hiding behind the Buncharted number plate. 😅
BTW; what's very tasty is overjarige kaas on a waldkorn bolletje with butter, BLT 😋
If you're gonna go to a cheeseshop be sure to ask 4 'brokkelkaas' which is really old and maybe has saltcrystals in them.. and do not forget to ask for 'boerenkaas' this also comes in an age variety bus is more artisanal.. Also a good tip is to go to the market instead of a cheeseshop.. prices are lower and the quality is similar.. plus.. it is not uncommon to get a taste sample before you buy..
I do not agree with the statement that the supermarkets have similar cheeses to cheese shops. Jonge kaas is very boring in the supermarkets. In a cheese shop jonge kaas can have flavors closer to an older cheese. oude kaas (my favorite) is really dry and far las flavourful then the oude kaas in the cheese shops. Supermarket oude kaas is closer to a really old and dry belegen kaas. You know that you have a good oude kaas when you can smell it trough the package. It should be smooth not dry.
@@ThaLioN987 Agree.. However.. cheeseshops can get prices bumped up to way too high.. dutch saying: 'op de markt is je gulden een daalder waard' still holds true.
Young cheese like 'graskaas' or even younger like 'meikaas' are better than in the supermarket.. supermarketcheese is only 4 grating/eaten with some mustard/grilled cheese..
I thought I knew what you meant with old cheese doesn't melt, but I make aged cheese toasties all the time and it definitley melts. It doesn't become extreme soft stringy cheese like mozarella or young cheese, but its definitely melted and tastes different from non toasted aged cheese IMO
Fun fact, on average there are 2500 spiders in your home. Most of them obviously live in between 'spouwmuren' and in nooks and crannies.
In the Netherlands cheese names are actually protected by law:
Jonge kaas: 4 weken
Jong belegen: 8 tot 10 weken
Belegen: 16 tot 18 weken
Extra belegen: 7 tot 8 maanden
Oude kaas: 10 tot 12 maanden
Overjarige kaas: 18 maanden of meer
Overjarige kaas you will never find in the supermarket: when cheese ages it becomes more expensive:
1) the time to store it and turn it every so often. Time/storage room/taking care of it = money
2) moisture evaporates, so flavor becomes more intense, but your cheese becomes lighter. So with age not only the storage time costs money, but the cheese will weight less and less each month. So price per kilo goes up exponentially
Overjarige kaas is too expensive for a supermarket and also, got so much moisture extracted that you can't slice/cut it. It will only crumble and you got special knives for it to handle that the best way
Love your channel ❤
What is more important to know about language is that people with dementia fall back to the language they learned as a child.
They lose their second language. I worked in a nursing home where a woman got dementia and only remembered how to speak German. So for that I'm grateful that we learn different languages at school so at least we know what they try to say and not get completed isolated from everyone because no one can communicate with them.
Maybe also, you should look at who the parent companies are of the products like toiletries. Univé has always been a Dutch company, and market leader. Nivea is obviously German, so cheaper in Germany. Etos is a chain owned by Albert Heijn.
Calvé pindakaas plain or creamy is my favourite, on a slice of white tijgerbrood with butter and pindakaas and a glass of melk.
loved it as a kid and still do.
Also pindakaas met pure hagelsag is nomnom
Pindakaas met sambal&banaan!
Pindakaas met sambal en komkommer @@klettervestje8
There are no venomous spiders in the Netherlands/Belgium or do you suffer from arachnophobia 😊 And please do not unnecessarily kill them.
EVERY spider in the world had a degree of venom.
Of course, but the worst you'll get from a spider in the Netherlands is something akin to a European bee sting. And it is quite rare to be bitten by a spider in the Netherlands.
Dordrecht is a city since 1220, one of the oldest in Holland. There is another city Geertruidenberg which used to be in the County of Holland, but since the French occupation became part of the province of Noord-Brabant, that has earlier city rights 1213.
Not really Maastricht, Nijmegen en Utrecht all founded in the first century. City right Utrecht 1122. So one of the oldest not so sure.
@@Bramfly I am talking about the County Graafschap Holland, not the Netherlands as a whole.
Cheese you heat at anyway is an art. Like a tostie you like old cheese you need to mix your cheese.
Get an grated mozzarella young gouda mix and put the old cheese on that. You want some ham on it or sause put that on top and put some of the mozzarella mix on top of that. This way you get the melt in the bread and you get the old cheese also. Many different ways to do this, but this is my way.
Hebben jullie overwogen om jullie dagelijkse interacties met winkelmedewerkers op te nemen en eens in de zoveel tijd een compilatie met de meest interessante situaties online te zetten? Ik denk dat het zowel nuttig als leuk kan zijn als mensen zien hoe jullie om gaan met Nederlanders die naar het Engels overschakelen, of jullie problemen met het vinden van de juiste woorden, enz. Mijn vermoeden is dat als jullie kijkers jullie echt de moeite zien nemen om in het Nederlands deel te nemen aan de samenleving dat het een grote aanmoediging kan zijn voor hen om ook het 'risico' te nemen om stom en onhandig over te komen. We zien immers zelden mensen die een taal leren die wij zelfs ook zouden moeten leren en daar moeite mee hebben.
Toen mijn vrouw bij mij in Nederland kwam wonen deed zij op een gegeven moment alsof ze ons niet begreep wanneer we Engels spraken. Ze wilde graag Nederlands leren maar iedereen om haar heen ging steeds naar Engels...
Interesting video. Although I agree with all the comments about how annoying all the adjustments to the microphone were, plus it didn't make any difference to the sound anyway!
Hoi Michelle, you don't need that expensive Maybeline stuff. You are a natural beauty.
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PLEASE, 1000 or more videos like this. It seems much more honest to me than 'oh look how good the Netherlands is'. Not that you are dishonest, on the contrary, but it gives much more clarity to your impressions about e.g. 'our' cheese' and so many other things that are common to us but not to others
28:00 Overjarige kaas is *so* good. If they have it, that's what I'm getting.
Nice! I'm turning this off after about a minute and will finish it during the evening. I'm interested.
Extra belegen and the darkest volkorenbrood… the bread brings something to the table too.
Jong is green, Jong Belegen is red, Belegen is blue, Extra Belegen is purple, Oud is brown, iirc
Dairy; dark blue is full fat milk, light blue is semi skimmed, red is ... karnemelk is not buttermilk! Go to a Polish supermarket and get buttermilk there. Dark blue cap and TASTY 🙂
And look at the SALAMI; no, the packs of small round cheese slices. Says salami on the package 🤪
Paracetamol is in the supermarkets for 89 cents (20 tablets 500mg)
20:07 : "most of the time it's going to be Gouda cheese". And there you are completely mistaken.
Most Dutch cheeses come in age categories. But the regional differences will be huge.
Gouda cheese is from Gouda, so Zuid-Holland. It tastes quite different compared to cheese from Noord-Holland, like Beemster.
The differences with farm cheese are even more pronounced. Very much depending on the soil and vegetation the cows have access to.
The main issue is that pre-packing cheese kills it. Cheese needs to breathe.
So packed cheese from the supermarket tends to taste more similar despite its difference in origin.
Same goes for packed bread. Both are substandard.
To be truly able to judge you need to buy cheese from a cheese shop, or better still from a market stall or 'zelfkazende boer'.
And remember to ask about its origin.
And foremost buy your bread from a 'warme bakker'.
I think Kruidvat en Trekpleister buy it in cheap and thus can sell it more in bulk more cheap. Etos is more expensive than Kruidvat and trekpleister
Kruidvat, Trekpleister and Prijsmepper are all the same company.
@@MarcKloos yes I know and ETOS is part of Ahold (Albert Heijn)
Love the discussions! jong belegen is red :) Beemster is a very nice cheese, that you can get in the supermarket, but I mostly get cheese from the market, as you have more choice and better quality. My favourite cheese is Jong belegen Komijn. edit: Oh sorry! Ik begon in het Engels te typen 😂 Ik vind het echt supergoed hoe jullie met Nederlands leren bezig zijn, petje af!
The crustly cheese you get from making grilled cheese with JongBelegen🤤its the best part
Very enjoyable and "gezellig" to watch.
Maar die fles als vaas kan echt niet hoor. Bij jullie in Dordt zit zo'n mooie grote Opnieuw & Co kringloopwinkel. Daar staat vast wel iets beters. Misschien zelfs wel een mooi stukje Scandinavisch mid-century design. (Het zal niet voor het eerst zijn dat er een stuk goed design bij de kringloop op te pikken valt. Dat is tenminste mijn ervaring.)
Interesting video. I mean podcast. Also, I also always buy jong belegen. The housebrand one from Plus is the best I think. If you go to de kaasboer there is way more distinction between the different types btw. In supermarkets the type is also a bit relevant, but if bought quick like that the age is more important because the quality of taste between the types is less noticeable.
Edit: Cheese in NL is a thing for a reason and if you go outside the supermarkets there is a world of tastes and types to explore and enjoy.
Would love a podcast from you guys. I'm a big podcast listener and have done a few podcasts for my food blog. One thing I noticed is that the casual conversation in this episode reminds me of your Twitch stream. Miss that, but I'm fine with the stuff you are currently doing.
As for Dutch people switching to English or not, I think one part just likes to practice English and they do it a lot in their social life in general and/or their work. And people who like to communicate more easily. Others aren't very interested in speaking another language in general.
My favorite cheese in the Netherlands was the Albert Heijn Extra Belegen Gouda (used to be in purple packaging), just the regular type. But this is an idea for an episode for you two. Do an episode on all the different types of Gouda cheese in the Netherlands. For example Farmer’s cheese extra Belegen does not taste the same as the regular extra Belegen. There are so many other types of Gouda cheese.
For cosmetics, toiletries, self care and certain over the counter medicine it is much cheaper in Germany. Once every month or two we go there ourselves, we buy our coca cola there too at 1.75 euro's for 1,5 liter bottle. Here in the Netherlands it's 2.60 Euro.
Dit was echt super interessant! Meer!
Cool, but this is still mostly about very practical differences. I'd be curious for you to dive deeper, what do you find of the Dutch psyche, our collective paradigms, certainly when compared to the USA. How do our convictions work through in everything we do.
Thank you for not you "expat" - I'm so annoyed with that word - being a Polish person in UK I was always described as immigrant (which is correct) but somehow this description made me a second category, in comparison to a British immigrant in Spain, who called themselves expats.
I wonder if price difference for cosmetics is because a different rate of VAT in NL? We been here now 6 months and we really like it, you helped a lot, thank you !
Netherlands have a discount culture with healthcare and beauty products, discounts go as far as 3 for price of 1 or 70% off.
So if you buy out side of the discount window you get screwed over, it's to get maximum profit from people with little time.
50% off is the real price of many products.
Germany has much cheaper drugstores, really big differences (in tax?)
@@Iamsanni Tax and wages are higher here, but base prices are much higher because they wanna get most from people who don't take time to shop for discounts.
Playing this in 2x speed is really funny😂
Overjarige kaas wordt meestal geserveerd als borrelgarnituur: 'kaas uit het vuistje'. Ze is zo oud en droog, dat het zout is gaan kristalliseren, en het knispert een beetje als je er in bijt. Ze gaat goed samen met (oude) port.
If you're ever in Friesland again go to kaasboerderij De Deelen in Tijnje en buy some Riperkrite cheese, it's the best!
In NL there is not much competition on the drogisterij market. 3 dominate the market: Kruidvat, Etos and DA. Thats why prices are (can be) so high here.
Het was super vermakelijk. Ga zo door
Buncharted: Your chees experience needs a major overhaul. Check your grocery AH/jbo and such , compare that to either chees directly from a cheese farm/ store Kaashuis .
Also a sandwich is not the only purpose for cheese . Like kaasplankje / borrel , or different dishes for dinners or kaasfondue
Should be a lot of fun doing an episode 2.0
A Sandwich always uses sliced bread !!
if something is on a bun or bread-roll it is either a burger or a broodje , that’s not even a Dutch thing but British since that where the name comes from ( thank the Earl of Sandwich for that one) so KFC is not wrong 😉
A few years ago, KFC had mashed potatoes with gravy. It disappeared within months though. I did actually like it!
I just wish they would offer rice besides fries, like they do in Indonesia...
My friend runs a drug store and he say Dutch people just LOVE the buy 1 get 1 free type deals and that is when they come to your store. This works better than just standard lower prices like in Germany apparently
The psychology behind the `fine art` of advertisement is mind blowing (in more than just one single way......)
I like my tosti with rookkaas (smoked cheese) and ham. And instead of using butter I put mayonaise on the sides that you'll fry in the pan. It is sooooo yummy. By the way we went saturday to foodhall Mout in Hilversum thanks to your last video and it was 👍 👌
mout was one of the best food halls we’ve been to in the netherlands! very impressed with hilversum
My opinion on the product prices, like import stuff is of course first of all the tax, its always been extremely high here so makes it more expensive, but also and this is my reasoning/opinion we are a country of only 17,5/18 mill people compared to france 68 mill and germany 84 mill so when shops there buy in bulk from say Maybelline they get it for cheaper cause they have to buy more and distribute that all over the country in the shops, when our shops buy that stuff they can buy it in large quantities but probably wont sell as much as the Germans or french, so more unlikely that they buy it in as large quantities as German/french shops do, but for an import/export country this are getting out of hand here for sure, that's why i love our German neighbours 😂.
Loved it! Nice to have unscripted dialogue about things. But stop moving her mic every 2 minutes! Its probably a me thing but it bugged me (sorry). Someone else mentioned you can flip the micstands to mic from below. Another thing to think about is to do either lav mics or mic from above just out of view (with hypercardiod mics). Yes its a podcast style but its nice to see your faces. Keep it up!