Ex-Stig's First Battle on iRacing Ends TERRIBLY!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Welcome back to my ‘Ben Collins Gaming’ channel - the place where I’ll be documenting my journey into a weird and wonderful corner of the motorsport world that’s undeniably exploding in popularity right now - sim racing.
This week, I decided to delve into the wild world of @iRacingOfficial. Despite having never played this game before, I dived straight into an online Formula Ford 1600 race, against real players around the world.
How do I fare against the seasoned sim veterans? Does it all descend into chaos? Find out as it all unravels in this video...
This video was filmed over at @SimDemon in Tiverton, where they kindly let me loose on one of their range-topping ProSimu setups, complete with direct drive and multi-axis movements to make it feel incredible realistic.
Huge thanks to SimDemon for hosting me at their incredible facility for the day: simdemon.com/
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Ben, please, don't go back to that "sim specialist" company. It is painfully obvious to any experienced simracer watching this video that they have no clue what they're doing, and have completely missed the mark on several of the basics of setting up the equipment. And for goodness' sake, don't give them your money. The "Abnormal Lap" penalty you got was because of a poor internet connection. Again, please avoid that company and consider doing your own shopping and research, and learning to set up your equipment yourself. You'll be glad you did.
I wanted to say exactly the same!!!! Having a bit OCD about FOV and sim rig settings.....I would never be able to get fast in those rigs.
This is really good advice and I thoroughly advise to get into iracing and increase your iRating to the point where you can compete at GT class where you might feel more comfortable and have more fun.
A 'SIM' specialist company that cant even set correct wheel rotation! OH DEAR!
Yeah, thats wild 😂 with motion rig and simcube and everything. 150k rig
@@hansjmo and tbe motion rig dialled far too high, and not damped enough....
first thing if i tried that, hold up, fix this shit
@@bodinski100 Not to mention that they didn't enable the mirrors...
A possible case of all the gear and no idea.
Go do a video with Broadbent. He'll set you straight.
He did a few years ago. He was much better on a proper setup.
@@samdajellybeenie14 Yep, in the PRAGA sim rig.....in the PRAGA!!!!
Oh, and one more thing. That "L" red bar is your latency. The internet connection from your sim was terrible. It's HIGHLY likely that YOU disappeared from the other cars when that bar was fully red! They had no idea where you were and suddenly you'd reappear to them. That may have been the cause of some of your contacts with other cars.
I like disappearing from other cars, but preferably using incredible skill & speed which is slightly lacking atm LOL
@@BenCollinsDrives No Ben!!!! Not true!!! Get those sim rigs properly adjusted ......and you will be dissapearing in the distance, leaving us commoners eating dust!!!
Oh how I wish Dave Cam or Jimmy Broadbent were present during the filming of this, they would've been able to explain and sort out sooo many of the issues!!
Please don't give up on iRacing just yet Mr Stig, there's a very good reason why the likes of Alonso, Verstappen, Norris, Oli Bearman and many more make it their choice of sim.
Once it is set up correctly and you understand all the details, there really is nothing else out there that even comes close!
P.S. I agree with other comments, these sim "experts" have failed on their part, this wasn't set up correctly. It would be far better if you had your own sim rig set up to your own liking, and even more ideal if you can get Jimmy or Dave to assist, I'm sure they'd be more than willing!! They're the real experts.
A Stig and Jimmy collaboration would be great!
I'm not giving up - I'll spend the rest of my life training until I can beat @Jimmy_Broadbent hahaha
BTW Ben, not sure if you have it set this way on purpose, but you might have a steering wheel rotation issue. It looks like the wheel in game rotates alot more than your simucube wheel inputs. Easily fixed in the settings 👌
Was going to say the same. In game wheel looks like he’s crossing hands.
I noticed that too and if thats the case thats not a very good look for Sim Demon 🫣, also noticed that cus it could be slightly off its making him take the slow corners far worse as it looks like he's ever steering car and dragging the tyers a bit and that will cost him
Yeh and also the hands and wheel onscreen can be off putting. Sim Demon or whatever they are called should fix the wheel rotation and get rid of the onscreen wheel and hands! Set it up right lads
Looks like the wheel is way off.
Yep this stood out to me as well.
Ben, if you return to them, tell them to fix that damn rig. It's badly calibrated and all the invalid laps are a result of bad internet connection. Your experience of iRacing is being tainted and not because of the software!
It makes me wonder given the deficiencies whether a large component of the "disconnect" he mentions in another video is simply because it does not appear to have been set up properly. Even notwithstanding the wheel rotation and POV aspects, I wonder how much effort went into setting the wheel force feedback since in my experience getting that as close as 100% possible to real life will absolutely make or break a simming experience. Put enough effort into it and really the only significant disconnects should be the lack of G forces and bravery being only determined by fear of humiliation and embarrassment rather than the real world concerns of injury and the literal horrendous cost of getting it wrong.
FOV seems off, steering wheel rotation off, no headphones meaning audio cues might be missing. I’d either get kit of my own or ask these guys to set you up proper. It will help a lot! Good luck and have fun online!
Whatever you have achieved, your career has peaked now that youre on iRacing 😁
I'll not mention the steering 😳
yess lol, defo better if everything is set up properly. but its good to see a real life driver struggle. it shows its just a game and the gamers can perfect it through repetition
And he gets his first netcode experience first race lol
LOL was thinking off writing a comment but I think he did in intentionally so he gets more steering angle in the game. Not really good for iracing tho
@@leah_gt That's a weird take considering Bens driving wouldn't have been good in a real car either: Steering input out of whack, overdriving the car, not using all of the track and the lines could use some work.
Not criticizing Ben as he did well considering the poor setup and that he's unfamiliar with the track. However, this does absolutely nothing to show that "it's just a game".
Dave invite the Stig up north east and show him how to take this seriously. I would love to follow Ben's progression. Ben, Dave is one of the more prominent "Professional" Sim drivers in IRacing. With a loyal following.
There is so much wrong with this video. First of all, welcome to iRacing. Great to see you jump in the hot seat and running in the lead. You will absolutely get this, eventually. But there is a learning curve. Qualification doesn't allow any contact, off track or lost control, it will DQ that particular lap, but you can have a go on the next one if you have one left. You really don't want to hit other cars at all, no matter if it's from behind or the ones behind hitting you, it will cost you 4x which is the maximum damage to your safety score. Everyone has already mentioned the steering ratio, your wheel is supposed to match the wheel on screen, this seems very off. iRacing stewards cannot slow your car down for you. You can get a slow down by cutting corners, but you'll have to slow the car down yourself, or you get a penalty. Good luck in future races! I hope you'll become a proper sim racer one day.
Race control didn't slow you down, Ben. They had a massive double tow going.
That rejoin... ❤
very professional! :D
Welcome to the world of rookies! The banana man looks like "net code". What can happen is if either yours or his network connection lags a bit, then iRacing tries to calculate where your cars should be until the lag goes. It doesnt always get it right
Yup, and with how much Ben's rig seemed to be lagging I'm not sure it's a surprise that he got murdered by net code.
HOLY STEERING ANGLES BATMAN!
Robin, to the Bat Settings Menu!
So the company name is SimDemon and they have no freaking clue about what they're doing. FOV is wrong, Steering Ratio is miles off from being even acceptable, they jumped you in a race on a sim without even knowing the basic iRacing rules (which aren't weird, they're just rules). God, this is the worst possible advertise for that company and after this video everyone should stay miles far from them. And by the way, there is nothing like "forced slow down" in iRacing, you are just notified that you have to slow down and this only happens when you cut the track, not for contacts or wrecks. The "Sim Experts Company" staff let you have an awful experience and allowed you to that absolutely protestable rejoin, ruining other people race, and let you free to say a lot of wrong things. Really, this video is very painful to watch for any sim racer.
I would try to give some feedback to that company, positive negative positive style. They are probably trying to make a living out of it, without maybe having the time to get to the finesses of it. But indeed, it is easily fixed and would benefit their reputation a lot.
Well… if even the Stig suffers………… we really are all on the same boat! 👀😂 those rookie races are hardcore! 😅
Don't forget to paint your lid white in the iracing paint section!
All the gear no idea 😂😂😂 that steering
me in a nutshell
You went to a sim studio and they set the thing up wrong? (Look at the steering, it's not 1:1 with your wheel at all, you're turning too hard in the sim).
And then they didn't tell you anything about iRacing either? The sim didn't give you half power you had a terrible throttle on exit.
This was painful to watch. That car was a twicthy mess because of how badly calibrated that steering was. That car in particular becomes difficult to drive if you're not smooth on the steering inputs.
It's more immersive if you deactivate the cockpit wobble and hide the steering wheel. You have one in your hands, you don't need an extra one one on the screen. Your field of view is also not adjusted correctly. It's pretty hard to drive like that.
Exactly. I never understand that. It's only one step down from driving from a camera behind the car using a game controller!
Ha ha ha...this is basically all real life racer's first experience on iRacing. I joined in 2019, after racing SCCA in real life. Won multiple championships in SCCA racing and thought I'd clean up on all these non-racers. I was WRONG! Sim racing is CRAZY but a lot of fun. I hope you stick to it!
lolz I like having my ass kicked its good development
Visited Daniel Morad's channel? awesome stuff!
Rookie races are a minefield. They’re just something you have to survive and get through to start enjoying Iracing.
FOV Police incoming! Bring the monitor right behind the wheel
Carefull!!! don't disturb the crime scene!!! Sir, I will have to fine you for driving with a totally wrong FOV and seating position!!! Didn't your motion sickness warn you enough???? lol
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“That’s bollocks” sums up my experience with Iracing too 😂
Fantastic to see you on iRacing, really unfortunate the Steering angle was not calibrated correctly in addition to the Force feedback being a little over, if you ever need assistance to have a better experience feel free to reach out 👍🏁
lol, we need Jimmy to review this footage and maybe 'splain all the stupid bits of iRacing to Ben. Honestly, _really good_ first outing for the most part. Just a lot of misunderstandings as to how iRacing works as opposed to IRL racing.
I would have expected that sim place to setup your controls properly, the wheel rotation was not set 1:1 with the game..... bad advertising for them.. the fps were also locked to 84, set it to 120+, more frames = less input lag = better feel and response. That incident on the straight would have been latency/network lag related. You can see the red L bar means your ping is poor and you need to give more space to other cars, also iRacing doesn't actually slow your car down when you get a "slow down", they make you slow down or DQ you, you just had a bad exit from the last corner. overall, you might need someone like Jimmy Broadbent to show you how iRacing works and not a crap place with no idea.
You can tell he’s a racing driver from all the excuses 😂
Hi Ben. I loved your book especially the stories of the army reserve and the unforgettable "Lord of War" guy. The much mentioned steering ratio matters quite a bit, its not just aesthetic. It's very possible to turn the in game wheel too much and exceed the most efficient slip angle. If you gradually reduce the ratio it will arrive at a point where the car reacts best and starts to "talk to you". The excessive wheel movements will also slow you on the straights.
Enjoying the journey. Cheers.
iRacing rookies is nothing but a crash course (no pun intended) in spotting lunatics 😑
Incredible to pick it up that quick though
Bahahaha. Welcome to sim racing Ben!
nice, the Stig's simracing cousin :D
Well done Mr Collins👏 . Proper racing. ❤
the outrage for being cheated by the digital overlords is so entirely relatable. You were all of us at that moment..
@BenCollinsGaming I live around a hour away from here (North Devon) , would happily come up for a few hours and give some iracing assistance. As most have said, there's alot wrong here and you'd clearly be alot faster and consistent with the right setup and knowing the iracing newances. Please reachout if that's of use.
(you were slow in the corners due to the ploughing from the wheel config setup given and caught so rapidly on the straights because of iracing draft in this series!
Some Say: He once lapped the Nordschleife in under 7 minutes.... using only reverse gear. And that Michael Masi himself came out of retirement to be a steward for his first iRacing battle. All we know is... He's called The STIG! 😁
Welcome to iRacing and rookies :) Look up DaveCam, brilliant bloke. The whole setup looked off, steering and your internet connection didn't look great, latency was way up in the red so you might have been disappearing for the cars around you. Wait until you are three wide at Talladega and somebody starts "bouncing" (car disappears and suddenly reappears), looks like what happened to you with the bananarama car. You may also find you were disqualified if you racked up too many incident points. Always prefer triples to a curved screen or VR... :)
Ben still has it!! Looking forward to more racing videos!
More to come!
More of this please Ben 👍
Seems like there was some more needed in set-up and dial in, but otherwise looks like a lot of fun. The Stig getting Black flagged just sounds funny
The guy you killed as you came back on the track will have been absolutely fucking raging. 🤣 Ive taken people out race after race for doing things like that to me. Not on Iracing...not played that. Hilarious to watch you do it Ben. Great stuff!
I thought racing fast required smooth steering inputs, that jittery wheel on screen was giving me iceRacing PTSD expecting a spin at any moment.
Welcome to the club stig 👊
Classic iRacing net code right there.
If I keep watching this I'm going to end up buying a wheel and pedals... again. 😅
You and me both!
Loving the sim racing stuff Ben, you really need to try vr for the immersive stuff, and you would definitely benefit from spending time on setup as per the other comments 👍🏻
Gotta say, that was a terrible rejoin!
Overall I'm impressed with his driving being new to iracing but needs to do a collab with a seasoned sim racer to introduce him properly.
Fairplay for managing even though the simulator steering wasnt calibrated.
Walks straight over to the rig to hit follow on Ben’s iracing profile 🤣
Ben.... Music is a No No.. We love hearing your voice. If you must use music. Lower it way down below the engine or game sounds. Love the content so keep it coming 🙂
Btw.. Looks like the Wheel FF settings is set way to high or something?
@Symptomless_Coma_ Sounds like Ben loves it too.
Thanks for the tips!
we need to see you give a proper shot, you and jimmy would be unstoppable in the special events 😆
Would love to see you gaming in the stig suit.. but i imagine it would be hot inside hahahaha
Best car in iracing 😎 hope to see you on ff1600 when i get back from hollidays in july
I hope your experience on iRacing is better than mine was and I am sure it will be for two reasons: one, people will probably afford you far more respect than the average punter and secondly, despite that "disconnect" you mention between real life and sim racing, I am sure you will be consistently fast enough with enough practice such that you are always in the top few percent of racers. For my own part, I always struggled to be fast enough to consistently avoid the drivers who would come into races either with little to no practice or come into racers to deliberately disrupt them. I don't know how the rating system works these days but I had to work really hard to even get into the high 2000 range (this was well over a decade ago now) and so long as you could stay there (or higher) you'd have a 90% chance of always racing against highly capable respectful opposition since even at that level it takes hard work and dedication. But for me it took a lot of effort and practice to maintain that level. Too much for my liking so now I happily race offline only. Luckily there are a couple of sims out there where the AI is decent enough to provide a great challenge without the nastiness of some of the arcade-style human wreckers that I am sure are still part and parcel of the lower tiers of iRacing.
Agreed. I think for most of us Walter Mitty's with questionable talent or real world experience, driving offline is actually more realistic. Real world drivers generally aren't nearly as erratic or inconsistent as is so often the case in online games.
I'm sure we'd all be thrilled to meet you in iracing, but perhaps not during one of your rejoins 🤣
Looks like you got netcoded! imo a screen capture would be better for this type of video. Looking forward to seeing your iRacing career develop :)
Love the content and keep it up.
Thanks, will do!
@@BenCollinsGaming Why not try out my cheap setup 🤣
You have see it here 1st The Stig is a gentleman...."sorry chap" 😂😅
The collision might have been netcode, something to always be considerate of when going wheel to wheel
Steering Ratio from a sailing Simulator 😊
rofl
Amazing to see our beloved Stig in sim racing! Please find somebody who will help you with all the tech setup so you can enjoy the sim racing in a proper way. The display you are using should have MUCH LESS input lag for you to be able to enjoy the driving and beeing able to control the car properly.
Ben, you should checkout the BTCC content for rfactor 2. I think you would really have some fun there! Especially if you can do it in VR!
The upside of a sim is that you can blame the computer or network or whatever if you crash 😉
need to get the stig on some of our week 13 crazyness
get him on the "13th Week Ridiculousness" with the MX-5 on track with the NASCAR's on some speedways 😂
One tip is to rotate more on the trail breaking, with break release. i see your understearing and you can get this car overstearing. Break bias at 55% makes it easier to do so but also easier to spin 😊
iRacing rules are weird, just gotta crack on with it unfortunately.. I always find myself leaving more space for other people than I should because I don’t trust them. Once you’re out of rookies you’ll have better racing
It seems, Sim racing is full of banana men, Ben practising tbe banana rejoin 😂
on a serious note, using your own rig, calibrated, to your style, makes a huge difference, had mine a year, and still tweak it every time i use it,
I assume it wouldn't had been as bad if 90 degrees wheel rotation wasn't full lock in the game 😂
Welcome to sim racing, say no more
As another comment stated steering might not be set up correct as it looks like your wheel isn't matching what's on screen and looks like on slower corners it might be making you drag the tyres more than you are wanting to meaning it will make eat up your tyres faster which is not good for the long run. I can see on screen the hands crossing over far more than they should do as on my Logitech G Pro Wheel in that car I dont get that as often as you was, as my hands in game match up more 1 to 1 in game than you showed here, might be worth having a play with the settings more as finding the settings that fit you the best will help you to be faster.
FYI after the chute you want to run up the left side a fella from west virginia once told me btw your force feedback clips pretty hard
i feel that I must defend Sim Demon a little here. I know the guys there well and they do not use iRacing and never have, there simulators are all setup well for the games they do use. Clearly Ben wanted to try iRacing and they tried to help out, but they don't know the game and as many of you have pointed out, it takes quite a bit of setting up and tweaking. Please bear this in mind when commenting. They were just trying to help.
Sorry, but I feel that these very basic mistakes are indefensible. When you launch iRacing for the first time, you're guided through a wheel calibration wizard. The only way to incorrectly configure the wheel rotation angle is by either not reading the simple instructions on screen, or by deliberately changing the settings. The FOV is also unforgivable in my opinion, you simply type in the monitor width and distance from your eyes. I don't care if they've never used iRacing before, those are the most primary basics which apply equally to ALL simulator softwares, and anyone who overlooks these things cannot be considered a professional.
Time for a collaboration with 'Jimmer' get him to set you up with some gear from Abruzzi, and some tuition.
Thanks for the notification on IG! Didn't realize I wasn't subscribed. Is that your X2, and will we see footage from it?
Stig it to'em, Ben!
You should try to get your own setup. I’m sure fanatec or moza would love to sponsor a rig for you. The setup on the rig you were using wasn’t where it should have been.
Maybe this sim company needs to learn how iracing works!!! Go see davecam or Jimmy.
He doesn't even know what was wrong
James May said he would "batter you on iRacing" 🤷♂️ 😂
Hey Ben big fan! Simple suggestion, try looking into screen recording so you don’t need to actually record what’s happening in game. It’s also a much cleaner look.
Thanks for the content, cheers mate!
Disappointed with the setup being Specialists. Everything is wrong. But as expected you handled it like a boss. Quality content.
🍌More like Mario Kart than a real race. Ben had that fair and square.
You'll get a lot better once you've got your own setup (skip a motion rig)
more of this!!!😂
The Stig only has 8k subs?? Come on now. Hope to see you on track fella. Look forward to beating you. You seem to over compensate on the steering old boy :p
The Stig needs some setup help from THE STIG!
You should try it on a VR instead of screen. Game changer
It’s a shame to have a great rig and set it up wrong. Nice way to have a bad experience in a fancy way.
Also, great work for making an oversteery car way understeery.
Congrats to Ben for being able to drive in that conditions, it shows how a great driver he is.
I would die if I saw the settings tab on this setup
That last corner is such an important one for losing time so race direction didn't slow you down at all. you were just not used to the circuit mate.
I enjoyed that.
welcome to SimRacing RAGE 😂
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The input lag you had with AC was awful, and the steering ratio on this video is insanely bad, which is quite tricky to do seeing as iRacing adjusts that for you. This company obviously has no idea what they're doing in terms of setting up sims, and in all honesty your experience will be greatly afffected by this
How close is the SIM stuff to actual driving? Looks like great fun
Welcome to iRacing. 😂😂
this pro sim company cant even set the wheel rotation up properly? no wonder he was slow in the low speed corners when he turns watch the wheel ingame and it cranks right round causeing massive understeer..
wait till you get that steering input issue fixed you’ll have a much better time with it I’m sure
I was going to comment on the steering rotation but it's be said . hahahah just get a rig for your home bro .
Hey Stig you the man. 🚘🏁👍
Imagine getting to server just to see Stig in the lobby