The Petty Feud Between Guns n' Roses vs. Nirvana
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- Even before Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift, rock and roll feuds tore both bands and fans apart. The transition from big hair in the late '80s to dirty hair in the early '90s created one of the most memorable rock beefs in history: Guns N' Roses (GNR) vs. Nirvana. Though the two bands shared many of the same fans, GNR and Axl Rose clung to excess in both lifestyle and performance, while Nirvana considered themselves the alternative, criticizing anything that seemed mainstream or aligned with corporate greed.
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I just love the fact that Slash dont want to get involve in this bullshit.
Ejat Pythagoras exactly!!
That's the 50% black in him. He not with that goofy shit.
@@72vince27 wtf dude
Cazzie S was he problematic tho like the rest of them? As far as sexism, drugs, and destruction? I’m really asking..because I already know he’s an amazing guitarist
@@KiaraWilliamsX Slash was an alcoholic.
Slash saying "I don't have time for this shit" is just about the most Slash thing ever.
Straight up alpha
@Kebab Remover ok beta
Kebab Remover hes not being passive hes just not an idiot like the rest of the band
@@dbarraza8848 How the rest of the band are idiots? They all seem down to earth. Well, not one but all the others
I never related more to an opinion
Elton John's piano keys were an innocent bystander in this feud.
🤣🤣🤣
So was Axl
Poor Elton John lol
Yeah, that was just wrong. You can’t mess up another man’s piano, specially SIR ELTON JOHN lmao
For a minute there...I thought he was ganna say Kurt peed on it.
Axl, dude.. he's just not that into you.
He's into his Yoko Ono, aka Courtney Love... Another band destroying demon-bitch.
mihir kattimani ?
No U just ignore that troll -
He talk a lot of shit about a dead person to feel good about his shitty life. Lol
Cobain was the bi-sexual moron !
@@grubbybum3614 No Cobain killed grunge when he pulled the trigger !
You're on all the drugs!
- guy who is also on all the drugs
Axl actually avoided hard drugs. He drank and smoked weed, but was never a heroin junky or on cocaine the way the rest of the band was.
@@nikoyochum6974 yeah but I mean you can drink severely enough to be as bad off as someone addicted to heroin or worse.
Axl didn't have a real response to Cobains really good point. which is why he resorted to saying something that cheap and dumb. I think the feud was lost coming out the gate.
Niko Yochum I might be wrong about this but I think even in Slash’s autobiography he said that during the time of the illusion albums’ production Axl wasn’t drinking. He was just always smoking pot
Axl was a rockstar, Kurt was a addict. They were hardly the same
@@nikoyochum6974 As if Alcohol wouldn't be a hard drug..
The 1992 MTV music awards sounds like a high school prom party
TheDumbDuck I remember watching it when they broadcast it. I was 22 yrs old.
@@MrSpankee02 58 now man i wish i was at a nirvana gig
@Rachel Bailey I had a chance to see them in 1993 . They played at University of Buffalo the same night The Jerry Garcia band played at memorial auditorium. I already had tickets for Garcia band ,and I assumed Nirvana would be around for a while. I was incorrect.
@@MrSpankee02 well at least you got to see the legend im i right
@Rachel Bailey yeah, but I’ve seen the dead dozens of times. I blew my chance at history.peace to you ,my friend
Moral of the story: If someone looks like they might need a friend , talk to them ....
Or else they'll want to fight you like Naruto
Good advice. I hope at least one person does this.
@@IDK-kv8ob yea very true
Yep. Kindness doesn’t equal weakness
@@ComaAlpha edgy
It wasn't a feud, Kurt thought Axl was a scumbag and wanted nothing to do with him and that upset Axl very much.
I mean I’d be upset if an artist I liked thought so poorly of me too
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 yeah, that's true. But people don't have to like you.
Kurt didn't owe him anything, he thought he was an arsehole and didn't want anything to do with him and Axl couldn't take it and acted like a big baby about it instead of just being an adult and accepting the dude doesn't wanna be mates. Which just proves that Kurt was right to not want to know the guy in the first place.
perfectly said
@@byrongolby So its ok if you get called shit or false assortments? Kurt was just a heavy cult leftist, which is not what Axl wasnt. And thats why they didnt like each other when it happend. Thats all really.
Kejiri I guess standing up for what you think is right gets you called a heavy cult leftist.
Kurt didn’t like Axl because of the way he treated women
Was wondering when/if that'd be a point mentioned
Axl was very attracted to me when we met at the Rainbow. He wanted to ditch his date for me. I wasn't then nor am I today attracted to him, so I ignored him.
Thank God, eh!.... After hearing he is extremely abusive to his girlfriends etc.
This video info is news to me. It's been said Kurt was murdered. Now I question if Axl had anything to do with it or hired someone.
Kurt wasnt a saint either and I'm a big Nirvana fan
@@carlwalltegen5044
You may be refering to yourself.
Think about it.
He is an alcoholic and drug addict. Can not control his temper. Doesn't care about people. He has a bad reputation for being hostile and violent.
His feeling were hurt Nirvana didn't kiss his ass especially after being a huge fan. His ego and feelings hurt.
Then Kurt damaged a piano he thought belonged to Axl!!!!
I will tell you what. Not to the extent of murder... But I would be heavily pissed off if somebody ruined my keyboards especially while on tour. You would meet a near Satan. You don't tamper with others gear, especially custom made ones and tour with etc.
Knowing Elton John as a being... He certainly wouldn't go physical. He would look at it as another story to tell.
@@carlwalltegen5044
From what I heard in the industry... Yes he is an alcoholic. What I witnessed the night in the bar in mid 90's he was very f'd up by end of night and doesn't mean a thing, but I was told he's there often drinking heavily.
Anyways.... I am not saying he is responsible, I wasn't there nor were you I assume. I became skeptical due to his very well known violent behavior.
Hey... Some folks think O.J. Simpson was innocent.
It's just often times people lose their life on recent events.
I don't think Kurt commited suicide, but I never met him to get to know his personality. And drugs can and always do down your self esteem.
Anyways... Lets drop it. After discussing I see Axl innocent. It was just weird timing and often people die while in disputes with others.
Slash and Grohl.
The 2 distinguished gentlemen of rock.
@Placeholder by design xD
@Placeholder by design Well... Except for that 😂
Slash also got super butthurt when they replaced him with Buckethead, as if it were Buckethead's fault somehow.
Kurt over above all
PBDesign it’s easy to call someone’s life BS you don’t know what it takes to end your life when you’re at the top , I’m a big fan of Slash but Kurt has respect from the bottom of my heart
Kurt: I don't want to be his friend...
Axl: ...and I took that personally.
Slash: ...and I did not give a fuck.
FYI it was more to do with Kurt taking this to the press and putting down GN'R
Dave : ...let me have some fun
I'm surprised people actually survived the 80s to early 90s with all the drugs and shit
Ayeee ayeee!
Exeter ?
drugs
The 225677th Fragment of the Man-Emperor of Mankind yeah I’m surprised too
Not only are we still here but we are the doctors, lawyers and people who pay salaries. If we had known we would live so long we would taken better care of ourselves years ago.
Kurt taking shots at Axl: “he doesn’t promote any values and treats his fans poorly”
Axl taking shots at Kurt: “he has a drug problem”
The funny thing is they had both drug problems but at least kurt was not an asshole
And a parenting problems.
@@Xavier-kq9hp Axl didn't use hard drugs
Funny seeing how Kurt also didnt have any values and also treated his fans poorly. ("If you like GNR you cant like us")
@@Monchi2006 What are you talking about?? Kurt is well known for his feminism and his outspoken support of the LGBT community (even going as far to say he wished he was gay just so he could piss-off homophobes). GnR never had such political convictions, in fact it was quite established within the Hair Metal community of the 80’s that you should be very apolitical if you wanna be successful...
To be fair, Kurt couldn’t of been more clear that he wasn’t interested.
You should *of* paid attention in school lol
@@TheRealCaptainFreedom ironic since it's not *should of* but *should've* or *should have* .
Then just decline the offer. Don't be an ass about it.
Omar usually if someone is ignoring you then that means that the answer is no, axl just wasn’t use to be told no and he got upset
@@kingzuna8007 He got upset when Kurt publicly insulted GnR. Not when he refused the offer.
Poor Elton John, he got caught in the cross fire on the most heated night between the two bands
And also felt something sticky while playing his piano.
Sorry
@@kurdtcobain2896 lol
Yeah, he’s got more class than that.
I'm glad that Kurt never broke his code by touring with Axl, even though I appreciate all that Guns N' Roses, especially Slash, did for music. I do wish that Kurt did have that dinner, I wonder how the music industry would have changed if Kurt Cobain never died.
I know what you ment but I couldn't help but giggle at "never died".
I'm trying to think of "all GNR did for music"... and I didn't come up with much. 45% of their singles were horrible covers of actually good songs. Chinese Democracy was dangled in front of fans for decades and when it finally came out it was absolute garbage. Glam rock deserved to die in the way it did and the only word I can ever use to describe GNR is "dated".
Ignorant fanboy
I didn’t know anything about Guns n Roses after 1992.
Kurt cobain never died, I hear his voice every day :)
You know it's a real feud with the bass players get into a fistfight.
Bruh...😂
And idk much about guns and roses base but Krist was a fucking mountain he’s 6’7 so not gonna be an easy fight for anyone like he took a most likely 20 pound guitar first launched it 15-20ft and then took it hitting him square in the face like a champ
@@nightcrawleronline2849 krist and duff were both like 6ft tall, I love how all the bass players are so tall lol.
@@nightcrawleronline2849 Duff is 6'3. He can take him 😅
I imagine Axl playing Nirvana's songs while crying himself to sleep
Hahaha!
♫ Don't you cry tonight ♫
Made my day xDDD
Well at least Axl's still alive. That druggie Kurt was pushing up roses with his gun.
@@mista3367 Because he saw in live more than booze, money and sex :P
"I was like, I don't have time for this shit" that should be everyone's attitude towards this fued.
This actually goes to all the feuds in general whatever it's in family,friends. just everywhere.
That was mine
@@rmhd7550 but you watched the video
Can you even call it a feud? It was just kurt making a reasonable decision to keep a distance from Axl, and Axl threw a fit 💀
the fact that mckagan was one of the last, if not the last, person kurt ever spoke to is so odd considering how much each other's bands hated each other. and they just had a one on one chat together on the plane about their struggles and mckagan was even going to invite kurt back to his house because he thought he seemed lonely?? it must have felt so disturbing to know that you were one of the people that ever spoke to a person that then killed themself 3 days later
I wish I was a fly on the wall in that conversation.
McKay an is from Seattle I think. Plus beat back a drug problem.
They probably would have relapsed together, and Nirvana would have released another album.
@@Tron_Funkin_Blowwould have been really different, imagine studio version of do re mi
"especially rock"
Meanwhile, people in the rap industry murdered each other over feuds.
Classic rap industry as usual
@@prairiebrewer6630 this video was talking about that time and as a result so was I. There's no need to state the obvious.
@@prairiebrewer6630 it's very obvious. There's a video every month of a dead rapper I've never heard of. Why are you so upset?
@@prairiebrewer6630 what's up with you?
Alzheimer's? Only old people watch CNN.
@@prairiebrewer6630 but I'm literally 20.....
Nirvana wasn't wrong.
Another Rock Weird History: The Time Elvis Tried To Have The Beatles Deported, despite the fact they were huge fans of his.
Pamela Mays lol this sounds made up
Kurt was a self righteous asshat.
The weird part is he did all of that to bring his gun around where ever he went
Elvis was a scumbag, putting down the Beatles (and plenty of other acts!) as druggy hippies, forgetting all about his own enormous prescription drug addiction! Hypocritical jealous fool, he knew that his star was on the wane.
@@sethlong9118 Absolutely True and well said. 💯👍🏽
My dad was at the guns concert in Montreal and tried rioting but his friends wouldn’t let him
Lol good for him
@@l.jishere1058 More like good for his friends.
Jhon he wanted to be hardcore but his friends wouldn’t let him
Good friends in the end
Had your dadsfreinds let him riot you probably wouldn't of been commenting this.
Slash is literally the most layed back chill guy on the planet
Say that to his ex wives 😭 ain’t no such thing as a chill laid back millionaire
The feud neither fanbase gave a shit about.
no one cares cause all can agree axl rose is a little baby
@@SgtPeppersLonelyHeartsClubBand Nobody thinks that lmao
@@wooziesloozie8528 Pretty sure everyone does, love GnR tho
@@wooziesloozie8528 Huge baby. GnR is a pop band at best Nirvana is real.
@@mathlover2299 guns are a Rock band. It might not be your cup of tea but they are a rock band...............
“An aggressive social climber” spot on mate
I would replace "aggressive" with "mentally deranged", but yeah lol
"He died the next day" you mean killed XD
She was only famous because she leached onto Kurt. I don't think she'd of ever made it big on her own!
@@DollyKauionalani 100 agree! Cuntney was the worst thing to happen to Kurt.
More like “aggressive social murderer”
Imagine if he would have invited him over for dinner kurt might still be alive.
lol what?
I was just thinking that. Honestly, I don’t know if I’d like to see him as a druggie to this day tho :(
Courtney would have still shot him
@@frenchys_prospecting the nanny (her ex) shot him, not actually her herself, but she definitely set it up.
Naaah
Fun fact: Kurt was a big fan of Metallica. There’s a really funny clip out there of Kirk Hammett saying how Whiplash was Kurt’s favorite Metallica song, and at a show, Kurt was in the front row and he kept waving wildly at Kirk and shouting for them to play Whiplash, and so they did play Whiplash 😂
Huh? Idk that?
The word is “petty.” Petty. And yet this entire comment section is treating it like a world war.
Way to embody the word.
13:15 The author of the video literally calls it a war and asks it's viewers to comment on who won supposed war. It's just a fun distraction to talk about. So... maybe that's why.
Kyle Spade I’m not talking about the fact that there are comments, Kyle. I’m talking about the name calling, trash talking, and overall shiftiness of most of the comments.
Who is treating it like a World War ? It happened in the 90's !
@@abigaildelaney7653 they seem pretty tame tbh. Some salty fans for sure though.
Listen, Tom Petty had nothing to do with this. You need to check your facts.
Jesus, I've read through the comments. Take a good drink of water because the salt is real.
Lmao
Always stay hydrated friends
😆
So true
You can read ?
Love how they picked a fight with Krist Novoselić, who is 6'7", instead of Kurt or Dave, who were both like 5'7". MUST GO FOR BIG MAN.
And the one that went for him is McKagan, which is a big man himself too...
Yea axl sucks
@@yonslash457 and slash is overated tho grohl is too
@@christianwaldrup7121 please explain ?
@@yonslash457 axls a known abusive alcoholic and women beater. no beef with Mckagan. And my only complaint with slash is his tacky top hat and but he's a good guitarist overall. As for Kris he's just average.
I love Kurt, nirvana is a good band and I’m glad nirvana actually cared for his fans and didn’t think of women as some toy or object, Kurt was a good man, and I actually just bought nirvanas Nevermind vinyl the other day
Oh no, Kurt wasn't a good man at all.
@@godofhammers6398 lmaoo Kurt was not only an asshole on screen, but he was even a bigger one behind the scenes. People act like he was some kind of polite, kind-natured, humble guy, but in reality he thought his shit didn't stink and freely criticized bands garnering their displeasure towards him. I guess people want to forget how he threatened female journalist, calling her all kinds of words, and putting a hit out on her. They just turn a blind eye, and thought it was cool because of his passive aggressive nature. He was probably just as annoying as the glam metal bands that had the biggest ego's ever. They're all on the same boat, they just go about it differently.
@@RaytheGrayt Yes, finally someone said it! I'm so glad that there are people who see that
@@RaytheGrayt what was her name?
@@jaydenzilkoski5393 Victoria Clarke
The "Hi Axl" had me rolling the first time I saw it. Grohl is one in a kind.
He's such a funny guy, I wish he had talked more in Nirvana interviews
Who came out on top? The two with the most talent and smallest egos. Dave and Slash.
Izzy was probably the most talented but he didn't like the fame so nobody knows his name. Slash and Duff are fine, but they'd be nowhere without Axl and Izzy.
@Micah Bell I still don't like you for corrupting Dutch
I don’t think Kurt had a big ego, I think he just had a lot of unwanted fame
@@christopherwalken5065
If he didn't want fame, he should not have become a performing musician.
Aivottaja how many performing musicians you see get the fame he got? Especially being in grunge, nobody would of predicted how famous they became
Everyone calling Axl or Kurt Cobain a diva or overdramatic needs to take a step back and realize how mentally ill these guys were. I am not trying to use this to justify their actions but the fame, drugs, and personal shit both these guys faced definitely intensified their poor behavior. Axl has bipolar disorder (which is not something many people are aware of) and was going through a lot of personal shit in the early 90s and Cobain was severely depressed and addicted to heroin. Calling someone these names only perpetuates the stigma against mental health.
If most people are unaware of their mental problems and states I don't think them bashing these two perpetuates the stigma around mental health. You are contradicting yourself.
Well said well said :) :)))
Shut the up lol, mental illness is not a catch all for bad behavior. It doesn't excuse poor choices.
corn cob I literally said it doesn’t justify their actions
corn cob he was just saying that's probably why they did all that, he wasn't saying they were excused for the things.
Bruh, how you gonna just go and push Krist Novocelic. He's literally like 7 feet tall
Yeah like I don’t think both the guitarists in guns and roses could launch a guitar that high then not get KOd by it landing directly on your face like plus Nirvana was a bunch of social rejects from a hick small town they got in fights so I know their outnumbered but krist could take out at least 2 members
Duff McKagan wasn't exactly a small guy either. There was only a 3 inch height difference between the two and McKagan looked pretty rough back then as well. I think Novocelic would likely win, but not without some serious injuries. I loved both bands equally though and hated that they got into this altercation.
All in all, Dave Grohl is just the best.
I have to disagree with you. Dave Grohl is a step up better than the best. Sorry.
B Sharp you’re both wrong and I shake my fist at you for daring to speak the name of this man
All in all is all we are
8 songs with a fractured leg. Dudes devoted
Dave Grohl was an AIDS denier who had an AIDS denier speak before their shows to try and convince people HIV was a government conspiracy. That woman let her infant daughter die of AIDS before she finally succumbed to it herself because she refused treatment because she didn't think the virus was real. The band had links on their website in the mid-2000's to an organization that insisted the virus didn't exist and was offering $1 million to anyone who could provide an actual photo of the virus because they were so sure it was a hoax. I don't get how anyone can still have respect for any of the Foo Fighters. They were actively driving a pandemic.
6:16 to give more context: right before this incident axl's then girlfriend (i dont remember which one, either stephanie seymour or erin everly) had lost her baby, so it was a pretty low blow imo.
Whenever I lose something, I retrace my steps to the last place I remember having it. I hope she found that kid.
Yeah. It has been speculated that Courtney did that on purpose, just to twist the knife. Would not surprise me if she did. Courtney Love is just a terrible human being.
@@lordmonty9421 I know you are joking, but that really isn't a subject to joke about. Jesus Christ man, that was terrible.
@@heatherhillman1 ...I thought it was a pretty funny line.
@@heatherhillman1 Courtney Love is a demon woman. She was trying to climb the social ladder in the music industry since Bobby from Faith No More.
I thought the beauty community was petty
the beauty community is one of the most bloodthirsty and cannibalistic community you can ever find, they are relentless and merciless, they can destroy you without touching you or dropping their smiles and they will feast on your soul if you don't bite back.
@@D0NU75 Ahhhh yes... women.
Donuts if you think that is terrible you better look at some fandoms (billie eilish’s fans will eat you alive if you think to *imply* something about her)
@@retaj6840 k pop fans are pretty bad too lol
Ashly Lynne ik i didn’t mention them so they wouldn’t come for me 😂🤫
Dave Grohl and Slash are best friends these days. Dave in an interview this week said he sent Slash his new album when it was finished, the album isn’t due for release for months yet. That’s how close they are now. Pretty cool.
Guns and Nirvana are so different in values sound even generationally I would never expect them to have a feud since it seems like they existed on different planets
They were young. When they age, the wiser they get. These guys will never be forgotten
"... seconds after he threw his bass in the air and caught it with his face..." lol 7:30
Love how he just breezed by that lol
It must of hurt like sh*t
don’t put “guns vs nirvana” in the thumbnail, we all know how that turned out
Oh shit
Shots fired... oh wait no
The Browning automatic five won that battle.
Too soon bro
Lmao
As a fan of both bands it is my opinion:
There was nothing wrong with it that - Kurt didn't feel sympathy for GNR, it's okay but insulting them multiple times and calling them talentless was VERY not appropriate
- Axl wasn't upset because they rejected to play on his birthday, also he wasn't upset because of their rejection to their tour with Metallica. He was upset because Kurt was talking badly about them, ignoring his calls and insulting other band members of GNR
- I also love Slash for not wanting to be included in this lol
- the thing with spitting on a piano just because it belonged (as Kurt thought) to Axl was very not mature and just not a good behavior at all
- as much as I hate Kourtney I have to say that she had absolutely nothing to with their conflict and yet still decided to heat up the things
- it was hypocritical of Axl to mention Kurt's drug addict all the time as an argument against him, especially because it was so well known that Guns n Roses were known for their wild, rock lives, drug addiction problems (Steven Adler heroin addiction, Slash died for couple of minutes because of drugs, Duff's addiction from alcohol as well) and we could just tell their lifestyle was sex, drugs, rock&roll. Also they were called the most dangerous band on the world alongside with Motley Crue lol
- it was also so disgusting of some of Nirvana's fans to literally blame Duff for Kurt's death. Some of the people were literally calling him a killer of Kurt just because he was from GNR. I feel bad for Duffy, he had nothing to do with it
And at the end I am just gonna say that I'm not standing at any side, I think both of the sides were not acting mature.
Although i do think that kurt has reasonable reasons to dislike axl, and well both bands are young, so they are prone to do petty stuff like that.
Also i think that kurt was insulting axl
This is the first time I've heard anyone blaming Duff for Kurt's death. You sure that was all that widespread?
I don't think its hypocritical for Axl to call Kurt out for his drug use. in 1989 during a show with The Rolling Stones, Axl said that he would leave the band if Adler and slash couldn't get their drug use under check. he just hated druggies whether it was his band or someone elses
Kurt Cobain was right. Even members of Guns&Roses finally called out Axl Rose for his Diva behavior.
@DG 1 Nope, not like Axl Rose. That sorry son of a bitch took Diva behavior to a new level. The only other person that is his equal is Kanye West.
A blind man a mile away could see that he was a prima dhamma
@DG 1 Kurt was a drama queen but I still thought Axl was way worse.
The fued in all honesty was Kurt's fault.
@Al X. Andra "He thought music that doesn't have a social or political message was inferior to music that does."
When did he say this?
This is great. Would love to watch more videos about music history.
Janis Joplin and the 27 Club coming soon...
@@WeirdHistory I'm so excited to see Janis Joplin! ❤
I still have fond memories of Dave's taunting "Hi Axl!"
Five days of me not taking a shower has me smelling like teen spirit
Space Goat if you smelled like teen spirit, you’d smell like deodorant
Space Goat You’re underneath the bridge again get out of there!
@@Red-fv4bi feed me first. Hahaha
You smell like piss
OGGOAT_ _ LMAOOOO
Imagine being Curt after just spitting into the piano of Elton John
😂😂😂😂
Thats nothing, imagine how Kurt felt! Curt wasnt even at the show!
@@the_original_Bilb_Ono 😂
He’s like
Ohh shit..
Nice profile pic
The indie scene was so snobbish about music in the 90s.
But they had great music.
I think we shapely all be snobby about music given the trash we’re being force fed .
And Cobain was a pretentious doosh
I agree. So ridiculous.
@@mrsx7944 that’s what i learned in that vid,Axl had a little hard childhood but it doesn’t explain those things he did,he was an ass and made a lot of mistakes. And Kurt was pretentious and arrogant,he started that shit and break others shit. In conclusion:two childrens fighting but in the end one grew up and the other one gave up.
It's weird how these are my two favorite bands of all time
They're pleb bands.
@@123612100 It's sad to me when someone makes music something pretensious and exclusive rather than just having their own tastes
@@arthurdurham it's not pretentious, exclusive yes but not pretentious. It's not my fault they're t shirts are sold at wal mart prefaded.
@@123612100 So that makes their music and being a fan of it bad? You're judging quaility on arbritray reasons you decided matter, basically definition pretension
@@arthurdurham their horrible music makes being a fan of it bad.
Kurt: "They promote drug use."
Also Kurt: *gets addicted to heroin*
I hear where you're coming from. But Kurt didn't publicly glamorize drugs either. He would repeatedly tell kids not to do drugs, if the topic came up. But yeah, I get what you're saying.
@@Rjhorning Yeah, I just kinda said it for the meme. Like, I think this whole feud was just pointless.
@@gent9358 I totally agree man. It was pointless. I think Kurt was just snubbing Axle just to rebel against the mainstream image, like it did any good, lol. Like everything, the media makes it out to be a bigger deal than it ever needed to be.
Kurt was self medicating a life long issue of stomach pains. He probably had celiac disease before it was well documented...
There’s a difference between promoting/glamorizing drug use and doing drugs. Yes, Kurt had an addiction but he never had photoshoots of him shooting up making it seem like heroine is a mf good time ?
Axl was really distraught after Kurt died.Like it was stated here, Axl really was a fan , he didn't have any genuine hatred towards Kurt... it just hurt his feelings that Kurt didn't like him. When "tough guys" get their feelings hurt their response is generally anger and I think that's all that happened here. I believe he burned his little Nirvana hat onstage at some point as well.
-"I dont have time for this shit"
lol, I fucking love Slash....
sounds like Axl and Kurt were the same type of guy in different fonts....
That's what I'm saying
nah
HAAHAHAHAHAHAH
not at all
"I was gonna invite him to my house cuz he seemed lonely" that quote is sticking with me, as a recovering addict myself, u never know if the simple kind gesture of inviting him over could have had enough effect on Kurt enough to where he may still be with us.i doubt it would have, but had he invited him over u never kno the kind of conversations they could have had behind closed doors, maybe they could have had a impactful heart to heart that could have changed the course of Kurt's destiny.. im not at all saying "Kurt would be alive had duff invited him over" not at all, but what I am saying is there's always a slight chance any kind of genuine show of kindness or in this case a invite to hangout with someone who seems very lonely, I'm saying we never know what kind of impact that kind of gesture would have had on Kurt for the better. what im saying is if u feel like someone needs an open ear or seemingly could use some company whether the individual is ur best friend or a passing acquaintance, we should always follow our initial gut feeling n throw out the invite, maybe they accept or maybe they turn it down, but on the off chance they DO accept and all they needed was someone to listen to them, it could make all the difference for that individual even if it just seems like "just another day just another invite" to you, to them the gesture may be just what they needed to find the motivation to keep on moving and not give up.
Absolutely spot on. Beautifully said my friend.
Imagine being on a plane and two rows behind you Kurt Cobain and Duff McKagan are having a pleasant conversation about drugs
I cant even believe Guns and Roses and Nirvana existed at the same time
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 holy shit you're right wtf is that
Plain*
@@idosounds I can't complain
Slash is a vibe “like, I don’t have time for this shit” 😂😂😂
He is my spirit animal
Maybe this is a good thing, but it still makes me sad that the chaos that took place during the 1992 MTV music awards would never be tolerated today. The Grammy's would be a lot more entertaining with a rock band smashing the shit out of their equipment after a performance.
while people are starving? the environment dying? eyes roll ..
@@dinosaur9309 yeah keep crying. There will always be problems, can't we be happy for a few minutes.
Grammys are lame as hell.
I don't really think either of them "came out on top" in that feud. It's sad that it took a suicide for them to realize just how dumb and pointless it all was. Sure, Duff and Kurt seemed to put things behind them before Kurt died, but Kurt and Axl hadn't had the chance.
I won’t lie I doubt Kurt and axel would have ever buried the hatchet since Axel was and represented all the things Kurt hated about 1. Men 2. Rockstars he saw axel as a misogynist sexist homophobic women beater which for a early feminist are all some really bad things
Maybe if krut went over to McMahan's house he would have lived longer
John Allen ... that’s crash’s
Crazy
I’m sure he would’ve declined his offer
maybe. we can never know unless you want to build a dimension hopper.
McKagan*
This sounds like a Simpsons episode
Love how Slash is just like "I don't have time for this shit" LOL
Honestly Kurt started it with the "we're not your TYPICAL guns n roses band..." 1:35
That comment was very belittling, Axl didnt get pissed or did shit before that comment.
Exactly
Exactly my thought
Fucking true.
Damn straight. Axl gave Nirvana major credit, and gave them a big chance to play with the biggest rockbands in the world by that time. Fine, if Kurt wasn’t into that, that’s his choice, but it’s a low blow to insult Axl and the band with that ‘typical GNR band’ quote to put yourself on the map.
well Kurt valued his art and music and probably thought Guns are just vapid and shallow, with no morals or respect for their fans amd they're cheaper the genre, so he felt like he could openly show his disdain. not a nice gesture but everyone's allowed their opinion. i don't think they cared about being nice to each other back then
It's pretty rich to lecture someone else on drug use if you're kurt.
@Al X. Andra seriously? Have you ever listened to their music?
@Yung King it's not like Kurt Cobain kept his drug use secret. Remember Kurt saying that musicians have a responsibility for their fans??? Yeah.
@@ericmoody3944 I have, they really dont say "hey go do drugs its awesome" they do sing about addiction but i wouldn't even say glamourizing it, pretty much singing the facts about it, with even a negative angle towards it you could say like in Mr. Brownstone "i used to do a little but a little wasnt doing, so a little, got more and more..... Mr. Brownstone, he's been knocking, he wont leave me alone!" Mr. Brownstone not leaving him alone would imply its bugging him. Or in Nightrain "I'm on the nightrain
And I'm ready to crash and burn .... I guess I guess I guess I never learn"
Guns N' Roses, similarly to all the hair bands of the 80s, openly displayed their Debauchery, which pissed off Kurt, who would keep that secret if he even had any. Thats what he means
Even Axl was clean compared to Cobain. lol
axl when kurt started bullying him : I feel my heart crack
Kurt was such a sweet person. We didnt deserve him anyway
He was a pussy.
@@shinybeast8946 why?
He gave birth to a generation of beta males.
@@shinybeast8946 ohhh yes compared to your alpha male so very big and strong
@@shinybeast8946 fucking loser
10:38 Who made the decision to write Kurt Cobain's memorial plaque in comic sans?
Let’s be honest that’s pretty on par for someone who never took anything seriously so why would his tombstone I think Kurt would like it
Wheh! Whell Kurt if that isn't the heroin calling the kettle heroin!
You should've said "well if that's not the heroin calling the kettle smack"
i still listen to both bands along with metallica. the fans won because of their music.
You and me are the same person I swear
i thought i saw an interview where kurt said essentially that feuding only caused fans to feel divided and he regretted that part anyway.
I have a suggestion for an episode: Centralia, Pennsylvania. A ghost town that’s been burning for 58 years.
The real silent hill 🖤
Why? every other TH-cam channel has already covered it.
Why not?
"I don't have time for this shit"
-Slash 🎩🚬
I remember GNR praising several alternative rock bands early on. They were already huge fans of Soundgarden, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Jane's Addiction, and Faith No More by the time "Alternative Nation" exploded. For all that was undeniably cheesey about GNR (Axl specifically), they were also quite adventurous, considering when and where they originated, and had a definite appreciation for others more adventurous artistry.
GNR was extremely adventurous musically. Coma, November Rain, Civil War, Double Talking Jive, Breakdown, the Garden, and an acoustic album before any of the grunge bands did unplugged. To your other point, I'd say the only thing cheesy about Axl were his outfits during the UYI tour. Props for recognizing their willingness to praise other bands, though.
They were also fans of Nirvana. Axl wore Nirvana hats and wanted them to tour together.
@@blastofo yeah, GNR wanted Nirvana to open the disasterous stadium tour with Metallica. Soundgarden opened on earlier parts of the Illusions tour.
He got reunited with that doctor, years later. Grohl's face lit up when he seen him again, during an interview/talk show.
He was lucky to have such a good doctor, who was also a fan.
It was a Swedish doctor and his wife was there too, helping him, running and getting all the supplies.
I always loved Nirvana and Guns. When I was a teen I always thought Kurt was in the right. Now in my 30s I see where Axl was coming from.
Yep
Same here. I love both bands and I don't give shit about the whole feud even though knowing Kurt's bad spirit, Courtney, from this point of view I might side with Axl. But still, who cares? Those issues are long gone, and so is, unfortunately, Kurt Cobain.
yes i agree! but i also get why Kurt didn’t wanna associate with guns considering, how Axl treated women.
@@brianaramirrezIt’s not to good to mix controversy with talent. Ozzy Osbourne it’s one of my favorite singers of all time but there is no way I wanted to be like him! I wouldn’t mind having Ozzy as a friend but there is no way that I would approve his crazy $hit. 😬
You should cover the feud between Bette Davis and Joan Crawford
Dave Grohl in general is a class act, but I love the pettiness when he called out Axl on stage.
“i don’t have time for this shit” me too slash, me too.
Nirvana comes out on top. Kurt just didn’t like what Axl and GN’R stood for and that’s ok.
Guns N' Roses was the more talented band, but drugs and management causing a rift between Axl and the other guys in the band caused them to implode.
Kurt Cobain said GNR is all about sex, drugs, and booze yet he married a woman just like that lol
Kebab Remover he still goes as the greatest
Please enlighten us, what did GNR stood for?
@@PraecoxZ yeah but courtney had full control over kurt
I learned something new. I did not know there was feud between the bands.
Fun fact: Duff was on the plane with Kurt when he escaped rehab and flew back to Seattle for the last time
Its in the video
Correct. But if you watched the video before commenting you'd know that he fucking mentioned it lmao
Didn't have to watch it to know that...lol but thanks for the feedback
Can we take a moment to appreciate how amazing this TH-camr's mic sounds?
Courtney love and carole baskin should get together, I bet they have a lot in common.
Imagine blaming a woman for her suicidal, drug addicted husbands suicide decades after it happened for some likes in a TH-cam comment section.
@@oppaloopa3698 read the book "who killed Curt Cobain?" By Ian Halperin and Max Wallace. The police mishandled his case, and Cobain had so much heroin In his system, it would have put down a horse. He was dead before the gun even went off.
Logan Kimmet or they wrote a sensationalist book about murder because it would sell well. What proof do they have?
We all weren‘t there and we all don‘t know.
asheresque imagine defending a druggie
@@oppaloopa3698 Male feminist manginas are easy to be manipulated. So yeah, if you take away people's manhood then of course they are gonna kill themself by having some manipulative chick. No suprise.
Team Nirvana, mainly because I hate Axl Rose... Histrionic drama queen
Cobain was a drama queen. He was a pussy liberal before that was even a thing.
@@joshuatraffanstedt2695 no it's Axl swallow it.
That category fist either of them....Team Alice in Chains haha.
Joshua Traffanstedt stfu quit trying to make everything about shitty politics its all the sams crap
Jesus Christ himself would probably find Axl intolerable. Just saying
If they were hip-hop artists, there would have been a drive-by.
Grohl also played in Slash's self titled 2010 album, in a track with just the two of them and Duff McKagan. A really cool instrumental called Watch This.
I know people who love both Nirvana and GnR music, I know people who love GnR and hate Nirvana, but I don't know anyone who likes Nirvana and hate GnR
Because only fools hate GnR. Nirvana was a fad that ran it's course like most fads. GnR made timeless music.
Guns and Roses, while iconic, blow ass bruh. Nirvana is overrated as well, even though I like them. Meshuggah is where its at
omg i remember that award show, complete insanity.... when i see music award shows these days i always think "will we ever see a bass player completely clobber himself like that again?"
Yeah plus like he’s not just a regular bass player he was also a giant like most bass players just can’t launch their guitar 20ft in the air
Let's just be thankful that as fans of rock and roll, we have both of these bands to listen to.
Little known fact Sid Vicious' drug-dealer was his mom. Happy mothers day people
WAS. Past tense. Sid has been dead fo a long time now
Ha
Is it bad that I immediately thought of Psycho Sid Justice/Vicious of WWF and WCW fame?
One time axl and his girlfriend, Stephanie Seymour, a model were seated next to Kurt and Courtney. They were not happy and Stephanie goes “are you a supermodel?” And Courtney replies with “are you a brain surgeon?
Utter bullshit story.
You made it up
That drug addicted wreck is neither a supermodel nor a brain surgeon.
Seems to me Cobain was as pretentious as he was high all the time.
"GnR are doing drugs wrong. Here, Courtney, mother of our child, have some more heroin."
I was expecting some great rock n roll feud, but this one is just painfully mediocre. And I dont know why Elton John's piano had to suffer for it.
All in all, in this capsule of events, I do think Axl was the "gentleman". Surprisingly.
Fuck you asshole rose beat women
@@shmegol1140 *"All in all, in this capsule of events, I do think Axl was the "gentleman". Surprisingly."*
Note how I wrote "Surprisingly".
I agree, I also remember Axl saying "Watch your woman, Kurt". Eventually we all know the possibility of the involvement of a woman with what happened with Kurt. It turned out Axl was right. lol
@@shmegol1140 yeah, but but not on a dailly basis.
The winners in my eyes were slash and Dave x
"Guns vs. Nirvana"
I've come here to tell you that this was one of the cursed video titles I've ever heard...
BRUH Kurt spit a loogie on elton john's piano lmaoooo
Actually duff mckagan said in an interview that he did invite kurt cobain, Cobain said yes and left
Heard about that feud so many times, but it never gets old to watch videos about it.
Great video man. The beef was crazy and it’s so sad that it took the death of the crazy talented and troubled Cobain to finally squash it. How the bands came together at the end and were able to help each other is how it should have been from the beginning but it were to have been that way, I feel that it would have been something less then real life. Because in life, we are all tested, punched in the face and kicked in the nuts, but it what we do after that, weather we shake hands and lift one another up, or seek revenge and further burn bridges along with “our version” of the world is what makes life, life, and worth living it. So live it the best you can because your world is different from everyone else’s, it just that they sometimes bump into each other and take others for a ride in your while you get to go for a ride in theirs.
Take care, stay safe, and be strong. Also, GIT GUD!
Peace.
Moral to the story is, nothing good happens when courtney love is involved