How Twisted Sister Outclassed Congress
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- Rock & roll was under attack during the mid-’80s. As the music got more theatrical and provocative and MTV gave it a national platform, America’s youth screamed for more. It was obvious that pop music was experiencing a revolution it hadn’t seen since Elvis swiveled his hips on The Ed Sullivan Show. Enter Dee Snider and his band, Twisted Sister.
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What story about music do you want to hear more about?
How about Beethoven?
Two Live Crew's controversy with the state of Florida banning thier music it was similar to this video but it happened back in 1989 or 90
Bob dylan vs the press and his move to electric
The 27 Club
how about the analog years in recording vs the digital years, the pros the cons, the new jobs created, the old jobs lost yada yada the adaption and the relation of tech and music, so many angles to go here.
"He also pointed out that he didn't drink, smoke or do drugs of any kind. What did he do?" umm... his wife, he has 4 kids.
Who he met and dated while she was 16.....
@@i9incher damn, that kinda ruins the magic
@@Gr95dc There's only a 5-year difference between them though. Not unusual. And they're still married, unlike all the geriatric male celebs who hook up with 18-21 year olds.
Fems Ff And by Hollywood standards, anything under 10 years is basically unheard of.
@@femsff7090 I see, it's not that big of an age gap. Still, dating a 16 yo when you're 21 is weird. But it's nice that their marriage worked out so well
"He didn't drink, smoke, or do drugs. What did he do?" Well... He rocked. Plain and simple.
Speculative Dude Reviews Music does amazing stuff to people.
Made everyones life hell because he was and is an asshole and a diva
@@PromethiaSHADOW very true
@@PromethiaSHADOW yah, now a days you'd guess he's from Toronto or San Francisco... Most LGTBQ supported cities lol
@@CosmicHarmony58 What's wrong with LBGT? That's their opinion, life and choice. Does it bother you? Well too bad. They are not you.
Ozzy had a great line when sued for Suicide Solution supposedly causing a teens death. He said "BS. lf we wrote a song about mowing the lawn, kids wouldn't go out and mow the lawn".
If ozzy wrote a song about mowing the lawn I know I would go and do that immediately
@@jimmyseit934 sure buddy
see its funny cause we literally have kids on tiktok doing stuff just because they heard it in a song or think its cool cause their favorite celeb does it
Its a sex thing according to Jeff Peterson.
@@4B53NCTPR1V4CYthat was a joke ya fuckin walnut
Showing up in full costume was a brilliant call. It basically sent the message "This whole hearing is a show, so I'm going to show up to play in your show.".
"I'll play the character you all think I am. The thing is, you don't actually know what this character is about!"
@@markv1274 tax money and in the usa the lobbys who own the decisionmakers
Dee Snider dressed like that on purpose to lower the guard of the Congressman. By the end of it, he pissed off every Congressman in the room, which he relished. Lol
@@killer92173That wasn't a costume. In the 80's, Dee walked around looking like that all the time.
@@markv12741) you spend more time in a gym than in a store
2) us govt makes more money from tobacco and alcohol sales than gym memberships
3) the govt does not give a rat's ass about you. If you aren't productive and they can get rid of you without riots or protests, they'll drop you.
"i didn't write BDSM, she read BDSM"
Biggest oof
@@planetoftheatheists6858 how does this pretain to the original comment? I fail to understand your reasoning due to no context of the entire situation, not only that its a video on government intervention that twisted sister was called upon to stop. which once again is a failure to convey your statements.
then again as an atheist i see someone's name on youtube as "planet of the atheists" and i cringe just apparently like you do towards a video clip in 1985 at a 1980s rockstar which has no influence on how you conduct yourself. then again, most people that force the atheist label on their persona are usually outspoken and easily offended just like the people they try to affend.
Planet of the Atheists Good god don’t burst a blood vessel there grandpa “everything in my day was solved with violence” and I’m sure with the best of parenting skills considering your lack of mindfulness to change and cultural innovations.
GiGaGon are we reading the same comment you guys both seem pretty angry at a simple comment
Bo Hoffman there was a person saying some really awful and outdated things, but the reply was edited/deleted
GiGaGon oh okay that makes more sense
They forgot one thing about Snyder.
He's a songwriter.
Words are his Forté.
He was good with words...But numbers were not his thirté.
Indeed, two things a successful writer is good at: words and thinking.
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Yep. Don't drag Eminem into a courtroom. He will destroy you. (Yeah yeah, I know. He'll smile in the courtroom and buy you a wardrobe. Different court proceeding. Don't be a smartass.)
Yo, just like Snoop Dogg.
"What does profanity have to do with Christianity?!" Absolutely epic. It's rare when a politician is speechless.
Admittedly I'm not super knowledgeable about Christianity or the contents of the bible but I do believe there's something in the teachings and beliefs about how you're not supposed to fuck your mom.
If Gore wasn't grandstanding his own moral superiority he probably could have jumped on this easy counter-point immediately instead of bumbling a sarcastic reply about Twisted Sister not being wholesome.
@@paulybeefs8588I’m a Christian and to me it seems to me that swearing isn’t rare for a Christian, but it isn’t common either. You usually wouldn’t be going crazy like Moist Critikal, lighter words and/or not as frequent. The Bible says not to be hateful, and many view cussing/cussing frequently to be hateful and disrespectful
@@TheOneAndOnlyD-O-Double-G I think most people would consider that to be more about propriety, politeness and appearances though, which would play directly into Snider's point that surface level appearances are not really aligned with morality or the way we treat each other, and continue to poke at the closed-minded self-claimed "Christians" to be the ones to assign the label of "hateful" and "disrespectful" to others based on how they look or speak. So it probably wouldn't have worked for Gore to bring that up.
And if we are being intellectually honest, in "The Sick Mother F--king Friends of Twister" the "Mother F--king" isn't really about having sex with your mother at all, it's just an extreme adjective meant to be radical, rebellious, and humorous. But Gore still could have effectively made that argument to drive his point and further pick at the language used, since intellectual honesty isn't really worth much in Congress or at the education level of the television watching American public.
@@paulybeefs8588 yeah your right about how this plays into Snider’s point. But if you see someone dressed like him you’d probably think he’s an idiot, not saying that is how you should think.
One person that I met once(he was with my sister) and when he came to meet my parents and us he was dressed like a idiot. Bright pink hideous Chicago Bulls hoodie with matching pants. That really didn’t make me think highly of him, some time later, and now I know he’s an idiot. But yes, you shouldn’t always judge someone off appearance but with the Snider case it isn’t wild to think he is a idiot, but after a few of his answers they should have thrown those wrongful judgements out the window and talk to him how they would anyone else.
@@TheOneAndOnlyD-O-Double-G We make our snap judgments based on experience. If you see someone who looks like an idiot, there's a reason you think that. Snider was clearly used to being judged, a pretty common thing with the dirtbag rockers and punks of the era, and was 1000% ready for it.
Snider wasn't infallible though, and some of the arguments he made definitely left the door unsealed. He was aided quite a bit by his own conviction, which was apparent in the strength and confidence of his statements. But he was helped even more so by Gore's incompetence and wavering. Think what you want about Al Gore, but he's not a dumb person. The comments about Tipper must have worked perfectly and enraged him to the point he couldn't even think.
Us metalheads owe a lot of gratitude to Dee Snyder. For real.
im an old school metal head. grew up on sabbath, motorhead, maiden,priest. might sound like an ass but i never heard a metal head use the words "for real." we do owe gratitude to dee and many more who didnt back down. they kept kickin out that badass hard core heavy metal rock-n-f**king roll!
not just Dee, Frank Zappa stomped on them in the hearings
@@puddingsbane3110 right!!!
@@puddingsbane3110 hell yeah he did!
Not just rock fans or metal head but all music fans definitely owe a thank you to Dee. This was about the entire Industry, rock was just the target at the time
When the guy you claim is corrupting the youth only to find out he's a better parent than you are...
Juan Manuel Penaloza even pat bone a musician most may not know of theses days has actually publicly complimented Sharon and oxygen Osborne in their parenting skills and ozzy's music was probably on their radar as well and it shows how different people can actually be from their stage prosona
@@kevin10001 Oxygen Osborne is my new favorite autocorrect
@@bubbadoo10 favorite autocucumber*
@hXcFreethinker Similarly, I don't think me, or any of my friends would have listened to Insane Clown Posse if our parents took any interest.
you went with 3 different sentence structures there and didn't pick one
Congress: "He's a rocker. How much damage to our egos can he do?"
Dee: *speaks*
Congress: "Fuck."
Dee : language
@@hareecionelson5875 congress: about the children?
@@blakestuder5758 that... went over my head
🌞\m/💝
Bahahaha! Ohh - well player Sir, well played.....😂
“If you can’t tell the content of the album by the cover or the title, take it home, listen to it, and I doubt there are many music retailers who would deny you the ability to return it if you don’t like it” wow, imagine that, real parenting
Listening to music your kids like, the horror 😱
It's also a quintessentially American way to approach the issue - allow people to independently judge the personal value of something, and if they don't like it, they can then engage in a consumer privilege to find something they DO like! To be a senator and have had that explained to you must have been so insulting, like, "Shit, we really should have realized that Americans don't want us controlling what music they listen to." If somebody had written it for the screen, and it hadn't happened in real life, it would have felt like a really contrived reboot of "Mr Smith Goes to Washington."
the whole prosecuting the rock bands was a very american thing@@Levacque
@@ph03beuwu oh definitely. This entire argument is "I'm American so let me be free" vs "I'm American so let me control you." Both are essential to the American personality.
Just goes to show, just because you're an "upright, uptight Christian" doesn't mean you know how to parent your kids. Might need a metalhead to teach you🤷🏾♀️
This is literally an example of "why you shouldn't judge a book by its cover". Still today, metal musicians are thought of as angry unpleasant people, when often they're the most polite, pleasant, and caring human beings.
Absolutely! I know a number of motorcycle bikers, some of them look the stereotype to a T, they are all the most polite, awesome guys I could hope to know. Just don't provoke them, because they do have the muscle to tear a man apart. Meanwhile, some of the nastiest, most rotten guys I have ever met wear suits and attend boardroom meetings. Yeah, the biker might tear a man apart if provoked, but the suits can tear entire cities and more apart for their own gain.
I ended up bringing a friend to a metal concert because he was curious, though he outright admitted he was nervous. He was scared someone might try to fight him. Ended up having a great time, we talked to all the bands and they were all super chill. Yeah metal bands look mean, but they genuinely appreciate everyone who comes to see them since its kind of become a smaller genre in the grand scheme of things. My friend's been to like 9 concerts since them, always has a great time.
Exactly. Think of George Fisher or Rex Brown. Both were heavy metal band men but George is probably one of the nicest metal heads and Rex is very shy and kind.
Polite...pleasant...caring.
Not one of those words describes Dee The Arsehole. He showed his true colours over the last few years. "Unvaccinated" people losing their jobs, losing their homes, and in some cases, committing suicide because of it? Dee didn't give a fuck. He played cheerleader for abuse and discrimination. Jello Biafra and KISS are others who belong in the Covidiot Club.
Another thing about Dee: wouldn't let Trump use 'We're Not Gonna Take It' for a presidential campaign--but he's fine with the song being used as a war cry for the Ukraine. Notice that Dee never joined the military. Maybe he should've picked up an M-16 instead of a _geee-taaar_ as suggested by one of the characters in one of his music videos. Dee is a chickenhawk, happy to publicly fan the flames of war, yet he never saw combat himself. That makes him a coward and an arsehole.
Ironically, Dee suggested to judge an album by its cover.
Dee Snider and others basically stopped Karens from ruining music.
kind of. Sounds like they still got what they wanted by getting explicit stickers added to albums.
a h They wanted way more than that. Such as making it outright illegal to sell anything with an advisory sticker on it to anyone under 18.
In the following year's all those celebrities would go on to support the same politicians that did this.
Jim Morrison Zappa didn't. Porn Wars.
@@ah7027 well heres the thing. Explicit stickers are supposed to tell us its wrong. Dont buy it. But we all want what we "shouldnt" have. And even if its dumb to add it to music, from what I know it increased sales A LOT for rock music. So its a good thing in that sense
As odd as it sounds, the guy I respect the most from this was John Denver. They brought John Denver in because he was clean-cut and mainstream, and they obviously assumed he would side with the censors. Instead, he backed up Dee Snyder and Frank Zappa and called the PMRC Nazis and then nearly lost his music career because of it.
Sometimes you have to risk the things you hold most dear in order to stand with your principles.
JD was a true gentleman and a scholar, much respect
Denver was certainly NOT a target personally. I heard he shocked Zappa when he said he was a fan and listened to all his material.
@@kenweller2032 actually John Denver’s song Rockie Mountain High was on the list of songs the PMRC wanted censured.
Didn’t John Denver die, as pilot, in a plane crash caused by not switching fuel tanks to the full tank? I believe he was piloting even though his license was suspended for flying while intoxicated. I think John may have been the rebel; not Dee.
I watched every minute of those hearings. Dee spoke circles around the committee and Frank Zappa insulted them in such a way that the committee thanked him for doing so. You know things are seriously sideways when John Denver, Frank Zappa and Dee Snider tag team The US House of Representatives.....and win. All of us teenagers from the 80s need to pay a serious debt of gratitude that these three men and others did to stop censorship in its tracks. We may still have to deal with those warning labels but this a damn sight better than what could have happened.
Now they're banning books! We've regressed big-time.
Forget the teens of the 80s! All fans of rock owe them big time!
It's interesting that all hopes were lying on John Denver during these hearings, because this was right in the peak of Denver's popularity and fame, and as the most mainstream artist of the three, he was the most likely to be taken seriously by the committee. And yet the ones who really threw congress for a loop and poked several holes in the committee's credibility were Zappa and especially Dee. Not to say John Denver didn't contribute, he did considerably and added a lot of credibility and support for the musician's side, but it were the ones least expected to have an impact on the hearings who ended up doing the most
Bruh… we all owe these three a debt of gratitude. Everyone else in the industry was fine with it. Hell it was good for business.
@@po713… they are not banning books. They are banning CP! Anybody who doesn’t believe that can look up the book “gender queer” or “this book is gay” the first book is a picture book with an explicit BJ! The second book explains to kids how to sign up on Grindr despite it being a hook up app for adults! And don’t give me that “to kill a mockingbird”, “Harry Potter”, “Huckleberry Finn” crap that was all boomers and left wing racists! Sorry if that sounds angry… maybe you legitimately didn’t know.
This was GOLD! I was 16 when this all went down and watched this with glee LOL..... also, Nikki Sixx didn't have an issue with the warning labels because he knew that when you tell kids, "This has sexual lyrics, violence, etc" teens being teens will immediately buy and listen to something their parents/adults won't allow. His reply was "YES, please slap that warning label on our albums!!!" Lovely to see that whole PMRC blow up in their faces.
Lol, it's ironic that Dee has a better marriage than Al Gore.
Not surprising though, the same thing happens to people all the time, all the Real MF's tend to have better lives than all the finger pointing hypocrits, which in and of itself not that surprising when you think about it!
Its also ironic that Al Gore is an actual cross dressing homosexual and Dee Snider is a character.
@@fabfrenchies1974 I think those types of people just like to project onto others.
Pretty sure that Tipper Gore is one of those people that likes bondage and Al has quite a few gimp suits...
I'd say its expected.
My dad said the explicit warning signaled to him and all his friends what albums they should buy 😂
I believe the same thing happened with Motley Crue when the warning labels came out
It's true, we wouldn't buy albums or mix tapes or burned CD's without the Explicit label in the 90's. Total backfire by the democratic fascists.
That was a great moment back in the 80s. When the stupid politicians got outsmarted
@@ericanulph1980 And Mercyful Fate :D
Accept no substitutes or counterfits! lol
I love how classy Dee Snider smashed every attack on his music
I am by no means a metal or hard rock fan, but absolutely, yes. I loved his response.
Insane! Kids are supposed to listen to music that horrifies their parents. I did, though my kids couldn't as I was into the same sort of music as they were - mostly metal. Kids are supposed to rebel and, as parents, we need to manage their rebellion wisely as they go through that stage.
I'm not sure it's really possible to horrify members of Gen X...we were right in the middle of the explosion of both punk and metal. Kids now just listen to music that bores the hell out of me. It's not loud, it's not fast, it's not rebellious, and it's abysmally uncreative. That's the part that's horrifying.
The best part is they invited John Denver because they thought he would be on their side. He legit low-key compared them to Nazis.
Legendary.
As I recall, John Denver was on the PMRC's hit list because they thought the song title "Rocky Mountain High" promoted drugs. Zappa was there because they decided the lyrics on his album "Jazz from hell" promoted satanism. If they'd listened to it, they'd have known it was 100% instrumental. I think Tipper Gore first took offence at one of Madonna's albums that her daughter was listening to. Again, from what I recall, the album contained a reference to masturbation and Tipper didn't like her daughter hearing about that. A lot of Zappa's lyrics called out Republicans and televangelists for hypocrisy and dishonesty and he was pretty scathing about religious bigots and racists. He also refused drugs, and coming to work stoned was a sacking offence in his bands. I can't imagine what he'd he'd make of things today...
@@123xqp I'm not aware of any Madonna songs from that era that explicitly reference masturbation. You might be thinking of "She Bop" by Cyndi Lauper, which was out about that time (and was on the list of songs the PMRC was targeting).
Bruh
@@123xqp That's because being stoned would've made it impossible to play some of Zappa's music. Hell, being completely sober it's almost impossible to play some of his music.
When in doubt, blame anything other than your terrible parenting.
Exactly....or your twisted sister....pun intended
Blame Canada.
@@lisad1532you mean step-sister
Same thing with video games, Terrible parenting and ignore that the ESRB exist just to get the media and government attention for further Censorship.
Also Dungeons & Dragons, a couple of years before this. And Marilyn Manson, a decade after.
62 years old and I wanna rock!! Bring it on!!
We've been rockin since rock was ROCK 🤘
I was 7 at the time and still remember hearing about this on the news. Amazing how young you can be when you realize how dumb your leaders can be.
It’s always the Karens of the world trying to marsh everyone’s mellow.
Kaleigh Corrales amen to that.
Marshmellows are good feels, harshmellows are the bad ones
Preach. 👏👏👏
This is my favorite comment.
Yep, Karens are crazy!
who carries a child for 9 months only to name it “Tipper”
No Jewish person, I guarantee you that!
That sounds like a strippers' fake name
Tipper isn't her real name, it's a nickname.
@H M Yes, because Shaneequa, DeShawn, Latrice and Darnell are perfectly normal sounding names. I've also seen Asians named Chew Kok and Phat Ho and a Mexican kid named Jesus Condom. Sometimes someone just has a weird name.
@H M Why? Because silly names exist. Who cares? It's hilarious.
This whole incident made Dee a legend. Rock on man!
This was so incredible when it happened I remember it well because I was in high school. And I was one of the biggest metalheads in school and I'm still that way today at 52. Dee schooled Congress
I remember seeing one mom was mad cause her daughter asked what a virgin was because of Madonna. I wanna know how that mom should react if she asked the same question but because of the Bible....
Its not even a hard question to answer anyway. Kids don't want to talk about sex with their parents, so for the most part all they have to say is "It's someone who hasn't had sex", and then the kids will be more than happy with that answer and probably won't ask again.
"I want a virgin!"
"We have virgin at home."
At home:
That was exactly how my mother reacted when I asked the same question. She got angry and said "that's you" which made me feel so confused. And I grew up listening to all rock (and continue to), and I'm currently in a prospective career AND can gladly say I have finally removed her toxicity from my life. (She was extremely abusive throughout my life)
OMG I asked my mom the SAME question the year (second grade, so around age 6 or 7) I was earning my first communion in church.
Here’s the thing, both my parents were raised Roman Catholic, and both my sister and I had been baptized and raised Roman Catholic too. My dad is generally speaking the “good Catholic” of our family, though he disagrees with many of their beliefs and practices re: abortion, birth control, and same sex marriage.
My dad wasn’t home at the time when I asked my mom what a virgin was. Her (genius) answer: “it’s a woman who hasn’t had a baby yet” 🤣
This is why kids don't go to their parents about stuff like that. Getting angry at your child is just a signal to them to never speak about those topics with you again lest they get punished or yelled at. No clue why so many parents haven't come to that conclusion yet. Either way, that's pretty crazy.
I find it hilarious that when asked what he does to ensure his son doesn't listen to music he shouldn't, Dee's response was "look at the cover, read the tracks and lyrics ,listen to the song," because tou just know a lot of the people in that room didn't put in the effort to do the same.
Funny how they where wanting warning labels like movies ad video games yet these are the same parents who raised kids that today buy gamed rated M for their ten year oldds and throw a fit if the game is violent and/or sexual despite blatantly ignoring the already existing warning lables.
Lol Dee's like uh I actually do some parenting, you should try it!
I'm an educator myself and that is the healthiest way for a child and a parent to confront these "things".
If you watch the full hearings after they're told that the committee says that's not reasonable, that parents are too busy.
@@42ayla Didn't get you, sorry... and i have watched the full hearings.
This should be a full 2 hrs documentary
Waaay to few musicians these days know how much respect Dee deserves within our ranks as artists.
Twisted Sisters lyrics were actually very positive and empowering.
They sang about believing in yourself and not giving up, a very valuable message to teens who feel they're not being seen or heard
Empowering is an overused eyes
@@mareksicinski3726 you can't overuse eyes.
only during sleep. you should cover them then, preferably with lids
Now they are complete fashists
That's what most metal is about..
and it's still banned I think
"Look at him, this should be hilarious"
*Snider starts speaking*
"Oh god, we have made a huge tactical mistake"
This was a calculated risk, but boy am I bad at math
That was exactly why he dressed like that. He used their own prejudice to get everyone's undivided attention.
I'll bet denver and zappa made some eloquent points too but most people didn't remember they were even there.
Like with his music he knew shock value is the best way to get attention quick.
I feel like there’s a meme out there for this, but I can’t think of what it might be!
I would have paid money to see how Congress would have fared against Brian May of Queen (PhD in Astrophysics) Art Garfunkel (Masters degree in Mathematics) Greg Graffin of Bad Religion (PhD in zoology) and of course Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine (degree in political science). It would have been a bloodbath.
[tactical nuke incoming]
WEIRD HISTORY....you are brilliantly clear, coherent and sassy! LOVE. 🌱✌
Rock on! I’m a boomer, so I grew up with the wonderful rock music of the 50s and on. I’m enjoying watching a new generation discover the many very talented musicians of that era and fall in love with Rock music.
Most of rock musicians at that time were graduated in engineering, social studies, philosophy. They were the nerd kids who read books, play RPG and were good in math.
yep, Just ask the original lead singer of AC/DC
@@62saki91 You mean Dave Evans or Bon Scott?
Tom Scholz of Boston is an MIT-trained engineer with a BA and Masters degree.
True! Also, most of them had training in Classical music.
Punks too. Greg Graffin should be enough.
I was a teenager during this time. There was a heavy metal album I wanted, can't remember which, but it had a parental warning so I couldn't buy it myself. This outraged my mother so much that she went to the record store with me, asked me which album it was, took it to the counter and waited to pay. The guy behind the counter looked at me, then at her, then asked who it was for. She glared at him, and through gritted teeth, said, "it's for me". He just blinked, looked at me again, back at her and then took the money and handed her the album which she promptly handed to me. Smart guy knew when not to pick a fight.
Stupid parent.
he saw mama bear. Only thing scarier is mama and papa bear working together.
Congratulations to you and your mother
rock on freaky bro
Your mother might have told him it was none of his damn business who it was for. He's not her mother.
Dee Snider for president! I have been a fan since 1983 to Twisted Sister. 🤘
On May 10 1984 I was 16 and bought Stay Hungry when it came out on cassette hehe was awesome!
When your wife is trying to tell you she's kinky and then you take it as "I need to save our children from this music" and then you have that thrown in your face with TV recorders and cameras catching that moment on live tv
She divorced Al because he could never give her the BDSM rush she needed.
"Each stunt was selected from my extensive personal collection of cartoons" LMFAO that's trolling on a whole new level
imagine saying that with a straight face
I kinda feel like people just call regular statements trolling now maybe I don't get it but I pretty sure you people are just stupid
Tangerine Tech Or you just don’t have the IQ to understand the joke because you aren’t aware of the cartoons he’s talking about. Mind you your generation would have them banned saying they promote violence, and that somehow Tom the cat was racist towards Jerry the mouse
@@GeneralG1810 yeah I watched Tom and Jerry pretty frequently as a child but okay I don't have the IQ I guess
@@tangerinetech5300 considering so far 205 people have agreed with my comment I would say you don't
I love Dee Snider and Twisted Sister! Long Live Rock and Roll!!!!
A+ video!
LOVE IT! What a piece of music history!
And the other Part: Dee is married with the same Wife as in 1985 and has well educaded Kids. Al Gore is divorced from Tipper and has a drug addicted Son. Who's the better Rolemodel?
GibsonVienna - This! I grew up on hair metal and rock because of my parents - I’ve never drank alcohol or done drugs, my parents are still happily together after 20 years. It’s always the people (and kids of people) who pretend to care that end up fucked
Yes, i listen them too, and i always seriously and genuine HATE drugs (i did not even smooke cigarets) and did not drink alcohol, at least not on regular basis. I still realy hate drugs more than i can describe in words! Not the people who use them, but the narcotic drugs it self.
GibsonVienna right? Who screwed up more people lives... a rock star or a overzealous politician.
The choices of your offspring are not always linked to your parenting skills, and using an ill person to discredit their father is a bit of a low move.
Same goes for divorce, how does that make you a bad rolemodel?
I am not saying that I like Al Gore, but this argument is equally stupid as his.
My comment was only about Dee, that i like the fact that he is against drugs and not just another of those fatheaded defenders of narcotic drugs.
To be wery honest i think Al Gore is one of the better, and this was a bit unfair to him, at least that's my impression in comparision with a lot of the others, but i am not living in the US. I think it was more that he did not realy liked Dees humour and sarcatic jokes all the time, especialy sinse so many jof them where directly targeted on a personal plane, and i can fully understand that he wanted to defend he's wife even if she was tecnically wrong since Dee actualy acted realy provokative, probably because he knewed that the fans liked that way he preformed the whole thing. After all most what they did was in order to draw atention to the band and the bandmembers in order to sell more records, and i can imagine this must had been a golden oportunity for him, and as said he is very far from dumb so i think it was carfully planned in reality, but he wanted it to look more casual than it realy was because it would look better to the fans if it gave the impression in media of being improvised on spot and walking out as the winner.
Can we just appreciate how good of a father Dee Snyder is for a moment. I mean he successfully raised 4 kids, but also seemed to make a genuine effort to care for them and take time out of his schedule to spend time with them (and for someone who was one of the biggest celebrities I can imagine he had a very busy schedule.)
And that he has been married to the same woman since 1981. How many of those politicians can say that?
He seems to have much better morals than the hypocrits too or att least isn't trying to say he's better than others.
@@emilyjones7724 dude was married longer than my mom was alive (she also got divorced lol).
Yeah he's a pretty nice guy... I've been to his house years ago
So Father or husband? 😉🤣
The true power of a voice! What an Icon
I wanna Rock , and I have since I first herd Twisted Sister all those years ago ! !
"Miss gore was looking for sadomasochism and bondage and she found it." Gore: "yah." That's his carefully thought out response i am howling.
I'd forgotten all about it being an 80's rink rat child. :) I laughed just as hard now as I did back then!
I did titter for quite a while when he said that, lol!
Oooh, BURN!!!!!! :P
@@tamatharawls637 must have been wild to see this in the newspaper or on the telly haha
@Jin Kim yes i very much doubt al would make a capable dominatrix 😂
Gore admitted the truth when he saw it, in an extremely difficult and humiliating situation. If you said one in ten people can do the same, I would call you a liar.
My respect for mr Gore just went up. A lot.
Not THAT hard to outclass Congress.
It wasn't Congress. It was a group of Democrat Senators, Governors, and their bored wives called the PMRC.
@Stellvia Hoenheim If they have class then so does a dog licking themself
Nowadays at least
I agree
JL D
You don't know what you're talking about. Republicans wanted nothing to do with this crap. Why do you think it never became law, because the republicans in Congress wouldn't vote for it!
All bad BS back then was driven by Al Gore, his wife and the Democrats, you should thank the Republican party for putting a stop to that nonsense.
Great video. Thanks for putting it together.
One of the background issues that got stuck in my brain is the undue power of influence afforded to the spouses of elected (and/or appointed) officials. Why did anyone care what Tipper thought? Yes, she’s her own person with her own voice and fully within her rights to express her opinions…but Al was the one who was elected, not her. How many elected officials come with built-in lobbyists, and how much influence do they actually have?
I’m sure there’s a book or two about this kind of thing out there somewhere. Might have to pick it up.
I think it's a holdover from the role of a queen in monarchy; intercede for mercy, facilitate diplomatic relations, endorse charitable works, etc.
That checking system Dee Snider used (look at the album cover, look throught the lyrics, listen to the album) is a great idea!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the whole “parental advisory” stickers as a badge of honor cause whatever pisses someone off more tends to backfire in ways they more than likely hadn’t thought of lol
Plus they look cool
shadow king13 when I see a parental advisory sticker I just want to buy the album more because I know that they aren’t holding back on anything
The "Parent Advisory" labels have become an icon and a symbol of rebellion, a "fuck you, I listen to whatever the fuck I want"
I agree, when I was a kid I would only buy the tapes with the parental Advisory. It helped the record industry, not hurt it.
Never voted for a democrat my entire life because of this. Authoritarian pricks. Saw the hearings when I was 13.
"Why is my son being exposed to all these violent hateful songs, games, and movies!!!!"
Might be you buying all that for them............
Goverment: We'll force you kids to learn how to kill
@@ketri9055 in the 80s? I don’t remember being forced when I enlisted in the Army
" Well I can't control what he does with the money I give him!"
@@filthyapostate4217 M-18, R-18. *PARENTAL ADVISORY* Or you can just stop letting them use your credit card without you knowing what they are buying........ and FFS stop having the TV raise your kids for you
@@SimplySinify sadly those same inept parents will leave their kids in front of a TV and then magically become offended when the kid curses up a storm, or they hear they hear it in school or from their own parents. The parents should be egaging their children in arts and crafts and other fun activities. Better yet, if their child wants to listen to something that the parent may seem mature, listen to the music/watch the movie, etc very thoroughly in question and determine themselves if it's good or not. Explain why to their child why they can't watch/listen/ to this movie, song, game etc. If parent think its okay, then it's their responsibility to explain what's going on in a context for a child to easily process
What I saw when Dee first started talking. Was . This is gonna be Good. The Intelligent Oration coming from this Man had me shocked. Elated and Laughing. I was totally taken by surprise in such a good way. I lved it.❤
Wow! Such class from Dee Snider!!
"Each stunt was selected from my extensive personal collection of cartoons." That gave me a chuckle.
“The stunts were chosen from my extensive collection of cartoons” that is the funniest line of all time
well, they didn't have netflix back then so if you wanted to watch a cartoon again it was either waiting for it to rerun on the TV again or recording it yourself with a VCR
How professional he said it
@@channel45853 this 👆🏼
They judged a book by its cover.
It was one of the few truly great cultural moments of the 80's.
The PMRC's Achilles' heel was assuming that Dee Snider was a dumb, untalented sex fiend. Instead they got a smart businessman who knew exactly what he was doing. Zappa was phenomenal at those hearings too but he showed up with a sharp haircut and wearing a suit, but he also buried the PMRC with his knowledge and the confidence of knowing he was right. Same tactic, different clothes.
The cherry on top was when the PMRC expected John Denver to be supportive of their goals because he was viewed as a squeaky clean country folk singer. Instead he passionately opposed censorship and vocally supported the rights of the artists.
Denver was the real hero - and if you said that to Dee Snyder's face, he'd use much stronger language in agreeing with you.
"If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." Who would have guessed that a bunch of rich kids with law degrees and zero experience with life as an everyday person would be so woefully uninformed about something like music?
Frank Zappa's lyrics are garbage though. Zappa's lyrics are just juvenile sex jokes. Cringe, unfunny sex jokes told by a nerd. His scores are magnificent. His lyrics make his music unlistenable.
Dee Snyder has said in an interview later that he actually went there dressed like this on purpose. He added into their stupid judgement of him and with them being off guard against that "dumb untalented sex fiend" he just crashed them with his well-based and totally educated arguments. This was a "take no prisoners" incident.
It's strange they went after rock when a lot of rock is "you're awesome", "I feel misunderstood", "let's have fun", and "I'm processing emotions". It's very wholesome and relatable. When I think of sexually explicit songs country comes to mind, doesn't mean it is or should be censored.
✌\m/💝
This is a reason why I love skillet as a band. I've had some personal uphill battles and I can relate to or enjoy their songs in some way with songs like monster, freakshow, refuge, valley of death, beyond incredible, resistance, awake and alive and many more
Idk first thing I think of is rap especially today with nicki manaj and cardi b and people like them all they sing about is how good their pussy is lmao
Misunderstanding art and therefore finding it subjectively offensive to the point where it has to be regulated or banned.
The age old problem which is as relevant today as it was back in 80's.
Rock and Metal music are the only real emotional support I've ever had and I can say without exaggerating that I wouldn't be here typing this without Metal.
Haha, no ...Country should be censored for other reasons ; )
I remember seeing this on the news in real time. What a great day for us at the time. 🤘
I remember writing a college paper about this shortly after the hearing. The PMRC was big on quoting lyrics from bands that 3:39 nobody listened to. I ended the paper with "A moral minority shouldn't have the right to tell the rest of us what to listen to." I'm 57 now and still believe that.
Love hair metal or not, he deserves the respect he earned.
I mean I don't blast it all day but I have gone to a few shows. They know how to put on a fucking show!
Boy earned respect.
I was in middle school when this happened and I remember my dad talking to me about it. My dad played Zappa records in the house since I can remember so he was firmly on the fuck the Senate side. This was kind big deal when it happened though. Those hearings changed the way music was produced and distributed. Then the internet happened and it all changed again. These videos are an important link to a past that we don't see enough. Thank you Weird History.
So Dee Snider just goes "you know what? I'll play the game how you want me to play it, and win anyway". Absolute madman
Love Dee snider been a fan since i was 7 years old 1984!!!!! after hearing we´re not gonna take it btw my dad also love the majority of Twisted sisters songs
I remember this in the 80s, I had 2 of their albums. Always respected him for this, paladin of heavy metal!
The PRMC were really surprised when their 'star witness' John Denver came to testify and threw them a curve ball DEFENDING artists like Twisted sister. They thought just because of Denver's squeaky clean image he would be on their side to strengthen their case lol.
John Denver may have had a wholesome image and preferred to make wholesome music, but he also believed very strongly in never censoring music or art. It was actually part of the basis of his friendship with Frank Zappa (they had strong beliefs about censorship, and they both loved being fathers)...they made an odd duo, but got along surprisingly well.
I never heard of this. But I also thought Denver would defend rock. He seems like the type to laugh and say: "Yeah, it's not my type of music, but it's still good music."
At least, as long as it actaully is appropraite. Because we all no, some songs shouldn't be listened to by kids. But those songs are in every genre, especially pop nowadays.
is that recorded here in yt?
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John Denver was an amazing artist, but an even more amazing human, by all accounts.
The bit about Tipper Gore having a dirty mind is the crux of all of this. All of this controversy had to assume something to be valid. I'm reminded of Black Sabbath being accused of Satan worship because a few of their songs mentioned the devil. Guitarist Tony Iommi, confused, responded that they had always sang of the devil as something to be feared and avoided - certainly not worshiped. I don't see a problem either way, but their critics still got it backwards.
Yeah, because Christian bands and gospel music don’t ever mention the devil.🙄
@@Robynhoodlum they go the other way around and praise the lord.
Who’s got the task of setting the precedent for fearing the devil?
Huge sabbath fan here 🤘🏽
That's how the publishing industry thought things would go by using Steven King instead he sided with the smaller publishers
@@topsecret1837 I think we’re listening to different bands.
The way he just throws strays at 3:15 lmao. “A combination of sideshow bob and solo Stevie nicks” came outta nowhere
I love how the musicians just came as they were, no fancy clothes or neat hair.
"How would wou decide what kind of music to let your child listen to without some suit putting a sticker on it saying it's okay?"
"Uh, by thinking for myself?"
"... I'm sorry you're gonna have to speak English."
There's a case to be made for having a sticker on them to save time, and to standardize things. It's a pretty bureaucratic system, and might not suit the philosophies of all the different families though. Not to mention being vulnerable to daily politics sneaking into the 'judges' handbook.
@@TimoRutanen I agree. Just having the Parental Advisory on there let's the parent know that they probably should check the content before giving the record to their kids. It's not "unsuitable for all people under the age of 18" sticker, but an advisory sticker. And if you want to be lazy about it, then just buy records that don't have the said sticker on.
And like the video said, in the end that sticker just gave the album some street cred and increased the sales.
@@TimoRutanen Oh no I agree the stickers are useful and all, it's a jab at people who feel they NEED the sticker to be able to make any sort of decision rather than simply be able to use their own judgement.
It’s hilarious that the politicians assumed that musicians are stupid. You can’t be stupid to be a successful group or musician. Writing music takes brains, writing lyrics takes brains, playing and instrument takes brains and to do all three and be extremely successful takes a lot of brains. Don’t ever underestimate a person because of appearance because 9 times out of 10 they are probably smarter than you think.
On the other hand, any dumb ass can be a politician
@@everyrose3225 if you're a pathological liar, you're a politician
Idk people like cardi b have made it
@@joeyhammer6702 I mean REAL musicians 🤣
@@joeyhammer6702 And you think Cardi B is stupid why, exactly?... Because she's a woman who's sexual, or because she has a thick ghetto accent?
Your bias is exactly like the politicians' here.
Snider is a fcuking legend! He owned those hearings from start to end and rocked those SMFs big time :))
Even though I was only 15, I lived through this. Twisted Sister was not my fav. band by any stretch, but that man did so much for the music I love.
While Twisted Sister isn't my cuppa tea, I vividly remember these hearings. I watched them and cheered Dee on. He. Just. Blew. Them. Away. It was amazing.
Same here. It was funny. He exposed their hypocrisy and their stupidity. 😆🤣😂😹😆🤣😂😹😆
He's a credit to the stars and stripes.
Same here. They have some decent tunes. I recall fondly listening to some of them with a friend of the family who was a few years older than me.
"Feel the noise" is a solid track, same for not gonna take it and a few more.
Dee Snyder made a really good b horror film in the late 1990s he played this serial killer Captain Howdy.. shit was real good as I recall. One of the first internet based horror films, WAY ahead of it's time.
@@alisaoliver1969 We could use a coupla extra helpings today, tomorrow, and the next 5k turnbuckles
Frank Zappa did too.
*Congress invites snider*
Snider:so you’ve chosen death
i saw your comment and thought "fuck yeah" but got taken aback when i saw your pfp. sick shit, dog, you rock
I once pointed out to a very nice lady how much talent the Van Halen brothers had, and that they had included thier father on some songs. Jan Van Halen played clarinet on a few tracks. Music knows no bounds
Great video and great story!!
“ they are still lazily married but they are dating other people....”
Isn’t this the REAL meaning of hypocrisy ?!
Touchè......🤭
Most certainly! They preach one thing to us, then live the complete opposite of what they try to tell us what to do!
@@ronaldshank7589 typical liberals.. do as they say not as they do.
My guess is they separated because she was looking for sadomasochism and bondage... *and she found it* 😎
Not to mention adultery, which if I remember correctly is in the list of the Ten Commandments of what not to do. SMH Some Christians are more hypocrites than those that are not believers yet they feel the need to shove it down people's throats even though they don't follow Christ's teachings themselves. I am in no way a perfect person, far from it, and it is because of that that I stay in my own lane of my faith as a Christian.
Joke was on them. Dee Snider is a very eloquent and intelligent man.
If you dug into the personal lives of the people that try to censor music back then, you would find many skeletons hiding in their closets. Hypocrites! they are.
Politicians, in general, legitimately serve Satan, directly or indirectly, more so than just about any music group out there.
Hes probably smarter than anyone in the comments
@@AlexZander688 "serve satan" is actually something I won't argue with, as satanism for the most part worship the ego. And that is exactly what politicians do. They only care for themselves. Fucking cunts the lot of them.
Most "rock band" members, behind all the make up and weird and garish clothing, are actually very intelligent, sensitive and lovely decent people. They're just not afraid to unashamedly be themselves and say what they think....and that frightens some people.
Made me lol when Dee straight up said that Tipper had a dirty mind, lol! Goddamn, she had one hell of a Karen haircut! Actually, that pic of all the wives that were behind the complaining, was a massive line up of Karens if ever I saw one :P
You don't get clever metaphors and thought provoking poetry from a babbling fool. Music has much of the former, and many of its critics are the latter. The more wild a rocker looks, the more clever they tend to be. See Marilyn Manson, Zack de la Rocha.
thanks for the info I didnt now any of that.
rock on!!
I was never a fan of Twisted Sister but I was very proud of Dee Snider for conveying his point in a professional respectful manner.
Saw Dee Snyder in a Kentucky fried Chicken in the 80s off an interstate in Ohio. ( I was in high school at the time). He sat there the whole time talking to his wife while holding her hand I thought it was a really sweet contrast to his stage persona. And yes he was dressed exactly like Dee Snider on stage - totally outrageous lol
I love hearing wholesome things like that
I am so happy that you had that cool experience. Mr snider is a righteous cool cat. I have seen him in concert. He is a down to earth individual. When you see him flat out take the lead on the hearing,that showed his thoughtful leadership. He is a great guy. 🤩🤘.
I would like to add,when you see him in concert, you get to see his genuinely Funny sense of humor.even among rockstars, he is a rear breed.I feel extremely lucky, to be able to grow up with such a "GREAT LEADER/ ROCK STAR" . saw at the M3 FESTIVAL, in my backyard of Maryland. The location of the M3, is "Merriweather post pillvion".
I feel honored that I was your 420th like for this post
I would've fainted
I still love how the parental labels completely backfired on them and made kids want the albums even more.
You just know they there thinking Dee was some drugged up rocker who would show up high and unable to articulate himself well. How little they knew about Dee
never judge a book by its cover :D
I wonder how different the music, especially rap, that became popular in the 90s would have been with the advisory sticker. it was basically saying "rich and powerful (and usually white) people don't want you listening to this"
Even better than that some bands released 2 albums, one with and one without the warning. That had the parents buying the morally approved one for their cherubs while the kids used their birthday money to buy the other one. They actually got to sell the same product twice. Way to backfire Tipper.
They underestimated lot of rockers\metalheads of the time, because most of them were quite intelligent. Just look at Alice Cooper, he managed to stay relevant since 70s.
If you try to forbid something to a certain demographic, this same demographic will want to watch/have that thing by any mean. That's why adolescents will always want to see adult movies (horror, porn) for exemple
all i can say is thank you for letting us know the good shit back in the day
I actually had the honor of meeting Dee, back during the summer of '02 & he expressed how 'proud he was' to subtlety call Tipper a "pervert"
To be fair, outclassing Congress isn't that difficult.
not sayin you are wrong but dee snider outclassed them on a level they even could comprehent...
But it’s always a great, theatrical mess to watch go down.
Theyre not used to a case being settled in one day. Usually it takes 4-24 months
He did a good job anyway.
So..,how EXACTLY does Facebook make money??
Credit to John Denver for speaking out. He was certainly NOT a target personally. I heard he shocked Zappa when he said he was a fan and listened to all his material.
Actually, Rocky Mountain High was one of their main targets.
@@krohnicentropy8073 I can see their filthy minds thinking it was about drugs not altitude. But not from John Denver!
They brought in John Denver because they thought he'd side with them , Being all clean cut and what not.
Instead John metaphorically gave them the middle finger and said
well, Actually , No.... I'm on the side of rock and you've got it all wrong
@@martinkuliza Makes sense
@@kenweller2032
Yep
God bless John Denver LOL
I love seeing things like this. Especially since music that is played on the radio now is so much more than twisted sister ever was smh.
"I Wanna Rock"!!!
Just a fan.🥰
Snider having to explain basic parenting most parents are too lazy to actually do.
As a gamer, you have no idea how many arguments I've gotten into with other people about the contents of games. They always eventually go down to a question similar to one that Snider had to tackle: "Would you buy video games for your kids?"
I then would have to explain the existence of video game ratings and how to judge if a game is meant for a kid, teen or adult. You'd be surprised with how many people are completely unaware of the existence of rating systems like the PEGI or ESRB and just assume all video games are 'meant for children'.
The issue is a lot of people would rather blame the world around them instead of realizing that they're the ones that have to raise their kids and decide what their kids can and cannot handle. It shouldn't be "Video Games are violent, so let's ban video games.", it should be "Some video games are violent, so I shouldn't get my kid those games until they're old enough."
@Paul Martin If you think your kids can handle it, and mature enough for it, go for it.
The main focus of my rant was against those parents who buy their kids games and then later complain about the content in the games, blaming game developers instead of their own lack of parenting skills.
Al Gore: "mr Snider, its true that your music is meant to summon and idolize the ManBearPig?"
I see here some cowpoke from Red Dead Redemption 1/2
" No it isn't, I'm super cereal! "
Hey !!!!
@@manbearpig7359 howdy mister
ROFLMFAO!
74 and still rocking
Awesome. Just awesome
You gotta love it when someone like Dee Snider just rolls in and DOMINATES.
Still one of the best things I have ever seen. The crumpled piece of paper is just a cherry on top
The best part? It's all official government record and can't be removed.
It's amazing how when it came to the whole "How would you know what album to let your child listen to." Dee beat them with common sense. It's amazing how many people seem to lack it.
Let's be honest 99.9% of politicians worldwide wouldn't know common sense if it slapped them in the face
You know what Dee used? Truth, which some mislabel as common sense (though common sense is part of it). Dee in today's world of liars would be completely banned from speaking at congress or anywhere public.
They talk about it but strange how they don't walk it...again...comme d'habitude...
Honestly common sense is something learned like most behaviors usually taught to use when we're younger
Just as a casual example, the song Afternoon Delight is a double-entendre song about having daytime quickies. It was released in 1976, 9 years before Mr Dee Snyder appeared before congress.
I'm glad Mr Snyder was able to tell them all to screw themselves far more eloquently than they deserved.
Wait, what's the other meaning? A double entendre has to have two, and afaik "afternoon delight" refers exclusively to sex.
Fun fact: that song was part of my store's playlist and in just sitting there serving customers while the vocalists just sing about fucking the day away like 🙂