Mystery of Ishmael - Rabbi Jonathan Cahn

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  • @twahirabasi9765
    @twahirabasi9765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Isaac and Ishmael were brothers,it is you people because of tribalism trying to separate them, Ishmael never fought Isaac, Isaac was his young brother!. Ishmael was given that name by the angel, Her mother Hagar saw and spoke to an angel (which would make her an outright prophetess). so stop spreading these made up stories trying to portray Ishmael as a bitter person, while infact he left Sara house while a little boy of 13 and probably didn't know anything about Abraham Covenant with God and so on!

  • @wwurjant
    @wwurjant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Is it true the Muslims took Jerusalem to satisfy Ishmael’s desire? They took it from the Christian Byzantine empire who had ruled there for 300 years. What explanation would the Rabi have for the Christian’s desire to occupy Jerusalem?

  • @harmonkayz8880
    @harmonkayz8880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woooo wait a minute this guy is un real is speaking out of iniquity is a son of alyer

  • @abduldahirmohammed5234
    @abduldahirmohammed5234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    He never fought his brother he loved him

  • @maestroma5082
    @maestroma5082 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    All muslims calls Abraham father, so Ismail never lost his father end was never angry!! Allah says in koran:
    "And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, (with sincerity and under discipline). He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham. It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer, give regular Charity, and hold fast to Allah! He is your Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help!

  • @wwurjant
    @wwurjant 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    There is a factual error here when he said the Quran focuses more on Ishmael. Isaac is mentioned in more places in the Quran than Ishmael. The Quran doesn’t even mention by name which son was sacrificed.

  • @BrianTerrill
    @BrianTerrill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Nothing in the Bible indicates that Ishmael held a resentment towards Isaac in their adult life. Another thing I always notice from people belittling this story and Abrahams families actions is how they ignore the fact that when Hagar fled the first time, the Angel from God told her to go back

    • @kamalfozan9839
      @kamalfozan9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Godwin Macgregor There’s no evidence for your claims. So don’t create stories from your ass.

  • @nmkzf
    @nmkzf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Ismael is 10 years older than Ishaq.
    Ismael was in Mekkah since his infancy.
    The Islamic Hajj is in remembrance of Ibrahim Ismael infant and youth

  • @bubabx
    @bubabx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    LIES , One thing every believer need to keep in mind, no matter which religion you belong to NEVER LIE ABOUT THE LORD. It’s the worse immoral character to have. This man is just trying to every other religion that used the word FATHER against MUSLIMS.

    • @kamalfozan9839
      @kamalfozan9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup, he’s making his own stories.
      The main reason that Muslims don’t use “Son of God” or “father” is because they don’t want any confusion. Because some people will literally take Muhammad as a god.

  • @zackmano
    @zackmano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's a cute idea that Ishamael was rejected by his father so now he rejects "the Father", but it's just an attempt to squeeze Jesus into everything. And not a very good one.
    What about the children of Isaac? He still had his father. Why do his descendants reject the idea of God having a son?
    And what kind of God would do such a thing. Essentially punishing this poor kid Ishmael and his descendants so that billions of people apparently were denied "salvation". The whole idea is insane.
    God is eternal. God is ONE. God has no son, no father, no wife, no physical body. The trinity and all these concepts are pure paganism. God alone. Nothing else. 🙏🙌

  • @earthsky835
    @earthsky835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seriously Mr Rabbi? 😂
    I think you forgot to tell Ismael loved his brother Isaac.
    And Sarah hated Ismael and Hagar both. Just because she was her maid.
    Can't you see racism come from where? And you are racist now to other peoples?
    Were not Ismael and Isaac both presented during Abraham's death?
    Racist Nation.

  • @sonofishmael741
    @sonofishmael741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ishmael and Issac according to our belief they were prophet but our father Ishamel peace be upen him was sent to the tribe of Jurhom and was the scrifice and our Uncle Issac peace be upen them both was sent to the levant in canan and there is no doubt that covenent was in Issac and his decsandant throught the history of the Isrealites until the massaih Jesus son of Marry peace be upen them but as He said in i think Mathew that the kingdom of God will be taken from you and gaven to another which are the Ishmealits who carried the word of God to all nations After Jesus peace be upen him

  • @hoouch1
    @hoouch1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sorry but you can’t twist the history and especially quoting QurAn wrongly ... sad that u talk so much with j no o knowledge of Islam which was established on Earth By Prophet Adam A.S

  • @nonnonnon705
    @nonnonnon705 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think he try to appears as if he knows every thing about Muslims while he is unaware of every thing, or he did this intentionally, and he tried to Simplifies the differences between Jews and Muslims... Shorten it between isaac and Ismael....and its totally wrong....first of all Muslims believes in the Torah,the Bible and believes in all the prophets "children's of Ibrahim" including Issac as honored prophet respecting him same as Ismael and Mohammed...so don't try to show that the conflict between Jews and Muslims starting since Issac and Ismael...you mix the leaves, seconde, the mystery about Ishmael is only in your book " the fake Torah" and it did deliberately because Ishmael was a son of an Egyptian odalisque Hager,that's make him not a pure Hebrew... So the story of ishmael "I mean the sacrifice part" changed in your book to Issac after death of moussa....don't forget Jews Worship a statue after moussa went for only 40 day to meet god....imagine what they could do after his death.....so the differences between us not because there was a jealous between Issac and Ismael Mr no nothing....we love both Issac and ishmael we believe in both we respect all prophets of god ...we believe in moussa and massih and mohamed...and by changing the story of Ishmael to be Issac story u still can not answer the question.....where is the great nation that god promised Ishmael?!...and you knows the answer....its Muslims nation

  • @FarazKhan-ej8ck
    @FarazKhan-ej8ck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can't explain this story in your own ways just to prove your false trinity faith.

  • @djamaldouar3544
    @djamaldouar3544 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It.wasn't a matter of rage or jaelousy between atabs and jews , God decided to split Abraham's progeny in two great.nations and promised that..Isaac pbuh was.the father of lineage of.the prophets untill Jesus pbuh and Ismael was.the prophet of arabs and.from him came the.last prophet sent.by God.Muhammad pbuh , finnally the last great nation to.come from.the lineage of Abraham pbuh was the islamic nation wich is.growing every day.

  • @harrisdiamad4720
    @harrisdiamad4720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    THE BEST AMONGST YOU ARE THOSE WHO ARE CONSCIOUS OF GOD AND WHO FEAR HIM MOST.

  • @yahyaalghzwani1882
    @yahyaalghzwani1882 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This is lie god choose ishmael from the beginning but he want to test you god said In quran u was the best nation it was talking to Jews people but what u did you don't accept the massage of God when God send jessus to you and you do not believe it god says in quran why u Jews people if the prophets come to you by massage and if you don't like it some of the prophets killed by you or some you just said it lie by that God curse you . So god send to the sons of ishmael prophet to test them and guss what the become bliveing nation so god give them the land that promise it to their grand father

    • @bowwow1252
      @bowwow1252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Quran was written sometime in 609-632 A.D. while the earliest books in the Bible was more than 2000 years BEFORE it. The books in the Bible were written for a span of 1500 years from 1450 B.C. to 90 A.D. Now give me a legitimate historical records my friend, that what you're trying to say is true. How can I trust a book (Quran) that is written by a self-proclaimed prophet who have no prophecies that is already fulfilled? Give me a prophecy from Quran that was already fulfilled and I'll give you hundreds prophecy in the Bible that already happened just to prove who is a false prophet and who is the real one. And which book speaks the truth with geniune evidence and prophetic fulfillment and which one is just a fake.

    • @dirtycod
      @dirtycod 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bowwow1252 maurice pharaohs?? Look it up

    • @abuzainah1
      @abuzainah1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bowwow1252 just use your brain the earliest old testement is 1500 years removed from Moses and when God sends revelation it doesn't matter if it's 30 years after or 5000 years after the word of God Is the truth so making a claim the bilble came first so its the truth is a pathetic stance do you think the Bible was the first book revealed by God if you do you must be crazy what about the book revealed to Noah Abraham they've been lost the Bible has been curupted you can never prove that was revealed Moses there's a 1500 year gap

  • @malihehcarter7668
    @malihehcarter7668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glory to our Yeshua Jesus Messiah great powerful light of the world Amen 🙏✝️✝️✝️✝️❤️❤️❤️

  • @newmin8705
    @newmin8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some truth presented with a lot of bias, mixed with a lot of rubbish.

  • @owaiswani9080
    @owaiswani9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kindly explain who killed Jesus plzz

    • @qaisalhajir
      @qaisalhajir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus was raised to heaven not KILLED

  • @mihrijahaskovic4791
    @mihrijahaskovic4791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Muslim and Jews have always been together even to this days

  • @QuranicIslam
    @QuranicIslam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "Great people" in God's sight is only in spirituality. The Jews also say that God has no son ... This is all just "reaching" ... nonsense. No Muslim thinks the way he saying they do. He is just "creating" a mystery.

  • @cool92guy
    @cool92guy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh boy.. U are very very wrong. Go learn history from rabbi tovia singer. Real jews n muslims will laugh at u.

  • @southamptonsecrets2468
    @southamptonsecrets2468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Muslims follow all the prophets, dispute is between Palestinians and Jews, we follow Quran not family feuds amongst children of Ibrahim, misrepresentation of Islam by this speaker

  • @cymoonazics4940
    @cymoonazics4940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He is very very wrong.

  • @namazlur78
    @namazlur78 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There is a contradiction and problem to this explanation. How can u call a person was "blessed" when you said he was a loser. How come? This is contradicted with the pattern of God. When God make a covenant with a people He Kept it. Even to Jews who ignores shabbat but God stil forgive. Now ur so called bible had been copied several times and changed that only 50% ot it is accountable

  • @kazarrazak322
    @kazarrazak322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It is a false narrative. Islam and Jews still believe in One God. There are no resentment at all between Isaac and Ishmael. Abraham is a human and trying to say since Ishmael was supposedly abandoned by Abraham is the reason why Islam rejected or do not have the concept of Father as one of the Triune is far-fetched and blasphemous.

  • @ammargmrib5818
    @ammargmrib5818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ishmael first born son
    Then came Isaac the second.
    Muhammad SAW came through Ishmael.
    Arabs and Jews are brothers.
    The last part of talk was his opinions, which doesn't match the real story.
    As in Taurat, mentioned that God shall send another messenger just like you ( Moses). From among your brethren.
    That prophecy matched Muhammad pbuh.
    Jews and Arabs are brethren.
    They reverred all the prophets from Adam to Muhammad.

  • @AutumnChung
    @AutumnChung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genesis 21:8-9 “The child grew and was weaned, and on the day Isaac was weaned Abraham held a great feast. But Sarah saw that the son whom Hagar the Egyptian had borne to Abraham was mocking,”

    • @steadfastway1897
      @steadfastway1897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who still believes this idol talk to be holy scripture? what admonition& guidence such racism teaches? Need we say more about this book that humans edited with their tribal fued and God chose them over others whom He created- as well!

  • @freedom_now01
    @freedom_now01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's God's will.
    Fighting the corruption of the world.

  • @brondenafanning9544
    @brondenafanning9544 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    July 10, 2017
    You never, ever, hear ministers say that Abraham actually laughed too, in the previous chapter. They were both blown away by God's promise, not just Sarah! READ! READ! READ!, the Word of GOD, Body of Christ, and you'll be both blessed and surprised over how Awesome our God really is!

    • @steadfastway1897
      @steadfastway1897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes pls read read, educate yourself for eternal salvation
      Since his parents were promised by God before the birth of Isaac that he shall be multiplied& kings from his off spring according to Genesis 17:17& 17:19, then were is the sacrifice or any test at all in Abraham taking Isaac to the slaughter, when he already knew Isaac shall live to make him grandchildren?
      We know you cannot answer this obvious forgery by the scribes in what used to be holy scripture, but the Noble Quran not only corrects this bible mistake, the Noble Quran brings back what was deleted ftom bible: The belief in the concept of an afterlife- totally eliminated ftom.the Jewish bible (1st five books). May be these people don't want to return to see God!
      To know God is to love Him and want to go back to God& meet Him in the afterlife- enter His house- paradise
      Therefore, read the Book of God, the Noble Quran instead of corrupted books men who don't want to meet God messed with& took out the belief in the afterlife from it, that bible leads not to God but to loss for eternity, sadly

  • @gerardoavila2141
    @gerardoavila2141 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THATS why you need to understand that before our eyes and ears
    We didn’t see what happen between Israel and arabs 2 3 thousand years ago.
    So, why you’re fighting??

  • @malihehcarter7668
    @malihehcarter7668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you great teacher for this wonderful message God bless Rabbi Jonathan 🙏

  • @harunisack8489
    @harunisack8489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what is american has to do with isack

  • @sonofishmael741
    @sonofishmael741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that’s not true we Muslim do believe in Issac and Jacob and Jousef peace and blessings be upen them and we do belive that Allah the All mighty had made a covenant with him and his desndant from him all the the prophet and the holy messengers from the Isrealites
    but we believe that our Father Abraham peace be upen him scrficed his first born son our Father Ishmael peace be upen him not becuse he’s the ancstry of us Arabs and prophet Muhammad peace be upen him
    it’a just a fact

  • @godzilla2052
    @godzilla2052 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There has to be a second birth. Not the first birth but the second. The promise is to the second birth! Born again? Hummmmm

  • @H-D33
    @H-D33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow powerful

  • @halimasadiya583
    @halimasadiya583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can u explain about ur name Jonathan meaning from where it came from 100 percent it is not Jewish name

  • @Abdul-bl7lu
    @Abdul-bl7lu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    give also the meaning ishmael to compare with isaac meaning to see really wich one is promise child

  • @yahawayada9175
    @yahawayada9175 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    where's the mystery of Edom?

  • @heavymetaljesus4810
    @heavymetaljesus4810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Preach it brother!!!

  • @israel_connection
    @israel_connection 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Israel IS Ishmael
    It is So surprising that no one knows that the people (Jerusalem) that did Not believe the Christ, killed the Christ, and replaced the Christ with their doctrine. That is the definition of the Antichrist. They cause trouble for the Christ ians. Just like Ishmael caused trouble for Issac in:
    Gal 4:29 But the other son of Abraham, who was born in the normal way (Through intercourse), caused trouble for the one who was born by the power of the Spirit (miracle). It is the same today.
    It was Ishmael that was born only of the flesh. And he represents the earthly Jerusalem like it say in the scripture below. The earthly Jerusalem has no spirit because they can’t believe in Jesus. Today the fleshly Jews are our fathers of the flesh.
    Heb_12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh (Jerusalem) which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
    Gal_4:25 So Hagar is like Mount Sinai in Arabia. She is a picture of the earthly Jewish city of Jerusalem. This city is a slave, and all its people are slaves to the law.
    Isaac was born of the spirit miracle birth to Sarah. Jesus was born of spirit miracle birth to Mary. Isaac was chosen by God, Jesus was Chosen by God. They together represent the born-again Christian as chosen by God. Which is the New Jerusalem Kindom Jesus brought 2000 years ago. It is still growing like a mustard seed. Abraham was promised Jesus (the seed) to bring this better land (New Kingdom)
    Heb 11:16 But now they stretch forth to a better fatherland, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.
    Jesus also tells us of this.
    Joh_14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
    Abraham is still alive today in a spiritual body in the heavenly land and saw it be fulfilled when Jesus came to earth.

    Joh_8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
    Mat_22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
    They live today in Heaven.
    The only reason you would want to be of Ismael is that you want to inherit the physical land of a physical Jerusalem and not the spiritual heavenly land.

  • @MrSantalia
    @MrSantalia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's only theory..but I don't dig that

  • @Sameer-ux1zh
    @Sameer-ux1zh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hitler & Mussolini are Israelites then? 😂

  • @alialii8828
    @alialii8828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Abraham and his sons are prophet. A rivalry between prophets is out of question. This is not a strong argument to explain todays inter-religion's problems.

  • @ahmedtb051
    @ahmedtb051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We will have everything you have....and We gonna make it....and we are better...we got more..that is the spirit of ishmael.
    Good thumbs for this rabbi...he really explained it...that is the root.

  • @Lyoungministries
    @Lyoungministries 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Sarah would have Rose up and told Abraham NO, I will not say I am your sister, he wouldn’t have been given Hagar along with other riches as a gift. So, really this is all Abraham’s fault for having Sarah lie.

  • @WilliamJames-pe9io
    @WilliamJames-pe9io ปีที่แล้ว

    It's both Issac Sarah hangar and ismiaml iam american james son Jacob

  • @scottscott548
    @scottscott548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic assessment, it mirrors Galatians 4

  • @scotytheroux4568
    @scotytheroux4568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the lineage of Abraham was to be through Isaac for it was made in a covenant of marriage Hagar was an Egyptian NOT A black woman Ishmael was blessed by God but the birth right was Isaac

  • @amgharamezwar5915
    @amgharamezwar5915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if we believe in the documented history we should say it in a very honest way: there is no single evidence of ismael isac noah or even jesus from the time these people lived we dont have these mythical persons in any scriture writen in cuniform , aramaic, ugaritic iblaic babilonian or assyrian ... the only sourse of inf about them is the abrahamic holy books. in every respectable modern university these books are about faith not a sourse of scientific truth i believe they are real people just because i am a believer that's why i cant convince people these names are not a later human fabrication to legitimate religions and some racist geneology trees made to devide people the result of this mad classification can be witnessed in the conflict between humans this man is an arab from legendry ishmael the other one is israelite from isac i'am a semite you are hamitic its a shame to spread lies in the name of god ,i cant see any difference betwwen the man talking in the video and adolf hitler both are racist and liars the only difference maybe the nazi criminal owned a swastica and a huge army while the respected rabai has only the israeli state to murder and take the land of the satanic sons of second class mythical so called ismael its shame when we represent our own reality as if its absolute for every one and base a whole system on it this is 2018 goodby middle age wake up guys

  • @tarequeali
    @tarequeali 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to only hear this rabai to understand judayo and Cristian mindset and understanding of religion and humility and theology.

  • @merewah
    @merewah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its Avram’s fault instead of the sons of Jacob taking over the lands of their cousins and others...
    may Ha-shem curse the mouth who justifies anyone doing evil.

  • @adamp2426
    @adamp2426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hang on, so this Rabbi believes Jesus is the son of God?

  • @edbeasley2273
    @edbeasley2273 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Genesis 49:8

    • @steadfastway1897
      @steadfastway1897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly, well spotted. Prophethood& kingship both will eventually be removed from the lineage of Judah, when shelon (the one who removes the burdons) comes
      lets see which religious law of which religion, has fulfilled that prophecy in Gen 49, practically.

  • @petecaballero2254
    @petecaballero2254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Allah is not the God of the bible or the holy scriptures..

  • @ibrahimbanu9755
    @ibrahimbanu9755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this Rabbi Jonathan is absolutely laying he knows nothing about Quran at least bring someone who knows Quran story very well

  • @rimbaapi2515
    @rimbaapi2515 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You see you jews and muslim you are the same father you are not cousine., but you ate brothers. Ishamael is the son of jew name abraham genetically ishmael is a jew. Then all arab must be a jew also. Why cant you see this logik still cannot understand simple logic.

  • @saidsaidthis162
    @saidsaidthis162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Already saved, better save yourself first! It is a lie to call Jesus(AS) God, an utter lie.

  • @paulfishman4273
    @paulfishman4273 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ismail is known as the rejected son of Abraham. He and his witch mother Hagar we're cast out into the desert. However his mother called upon the Lord 🙏 and God blessed him BUT didn't receive the Greater Blessing of Inheritance. He and his descendents have the second class blessings. When Ismail descendents receive Jesus as Lord, then they are restored and grafted in to the Lord's First Class Inheritance as Children of God.