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Thanks for what you do mate! One quick question! I have a neighbour whose a bit of an idiot to put it nicely, if I got a visit and shut the door on them I can see him involving himself and maybe telling them I've got a TV in the house (he doesn't know what a game console is). Will that be enough evidence to get them a warrant? Not that I've anything to hide because I don't watch the tv anyway, it's all bollocks.
Brilliant explanation john, I’ve not got a camera or a doorbell I’m not prepared to pay the expense to tell that goon to eff off. If that guy came to my door he would get short change from me by way of shutting the door in his face!
Over 75 - Had a visit - wife out in front garden at the time - goon by gate, She asked who are you? He said TV Licensing. She said no thank you. Well trained by me.
@@daniel1970ification In Ireland a licence is required to own a TV (160 Euro) even a broken one, in Germany every household must have a licence even if they do not have a TV (220 Euro). Some countries need a licence to use the internet and to listen to a radio.
It's because the BBC brings in about 5 billion pounds a year, and 3.8 of that comes from TV licences. So the reason people in the UK still has to deal with +this+ shit more or less boils down to greed.
Hearing America having to pay for tv was strange to hear, but a tv licence that you can get fined for is next level wow. Glad to have Freeview here, there’s some decent shows on it that stands out from the reality tv..
If you abuse them they are likely to call the police, and anything you say could be used as evidence to obtain a search warrant from a judge, you need to be very careful when trying to act like a smart Alec, just no thanks close the door is the best coarse of action.
Cancelled in July by correct method. Have had three letters and one goon already. This is harassment. Have a no cold calling sign on door but still knocked. Disgusting.
@@allancopland1768 Exactly. It should be renamed to 'live broadcast licence'. Calling it the TV licence cons people into thinking they need one just because they own a TV, something the TVL agents are all to willing to exploit.
What I found when I first started getting visited was how hard it was to _not_ identify myself when they asked me if I was Mr Uren. It was just automatic 'Are you such-and-such?' 'Yes.' Is such an easy thing to fall into. Once I'd cracked that one, it was easy. I often start with 'Never mind who I am, Who are you?' 'I'm from TV licensing.' 'NO thanks!' *Bang* (sound of the door closing 😉)
@@FoxDren even though I'm an old man, I can usually totally un nerve them, I'm not paying for propaganda or the BBC who I believe are controlled by the CCP , the news is jackanory, they put people in fear so they can't think straight 👍
Just say you are not going to confirm or deny that, anything you give can and will be used against you. your name is your enemy, N-A-ME = enemy it's hidden in plain sight.
i cancelled our licence in december 2018. in february 2019 there was a knock at the door, upon opening the door the geezer said "hello i'm doing a survey into what channels people watch on tv" i knew immediately it was tv licensing being devious trying to get people to admit to watching live tv. he duly got the door in his face without a word from me. so far no other goons have been back
Staggering. They ask for details before introducing themselves or saying who they are. If anyone behaves like that there is only one reason - their whole outfit is shady.
He is checked by a manager for correct insurance before using private car. They are also alerted when the renewal date is due for a recheck of insurance. They also have random checks on driving license, mot and insurance.
@@icdgyixifyinstereo No ....I hate them. I just answered a point raised. To drive their own car for this job the insurance is checked by managers etc. Cant wait for them to turn up on my doorstep.
@@peteradams5857 I suspect you detailed what they are supposed to do. I find myself wondering how many supervisors actually do those checks. Looking at the sort of low rent types they send to bang on doors, I can't imagine the supervisors are all of the highest quality or diligence. They are employed by Crapita after all, a company with a reputation for being more interested in getting the most dosh for the least effort.
@@remittanceman4685 once those idiots start work the details of MOT, Insurance and driving licence are stored in a computer. This then sends out reminders for checks to be done. The supervisors have to sign a legal document saying they have checked these and then enter the details. One supervisor in the south west of England was sacked for saying he checked these documents when in fact he didnt. He is now facing criminal court case after the TV Goon was involved in a serious road crash. He had no insurance on his car for nearly 3 months after his renewal was due. Upside of this ..............the goon can watch TV for free in prison. 😁😁👍👍
Mate , I have watched you and I am deeply grateful for all your time and enough , I was very afraid but totally sick of the bcc , you helped me so much ( to be brave ) Thank you
That's really good as no one should feel afraid especially in their own home. Personally I keep them at my door for as long as possible because in my head if I can waste an hour of their time it might save someone else for being harassed, bullied and intimidated.
@@yorkshirepud6676 I have one of them and it still doesn't stop people from knocking on my door to selling me whatever I just point to the sticker and close the door
My standard response is “I don’t deal with anyone on my doorstep” and shut the door, polite but firm. I’ve just got rid of my licence, and that lot will be treated the same if they knock. I used to be too nice, but learned my lesson and now I don’t even give them chance to speak, that’s if I bother answering at all.
I'm yet to have a goon at my door, but I can't wait for the day that I get to say 'I don't speak to salesmen' and shut the door in their face. I'll make sure to video it too lol
Just had another letter arrived, saying we are under investigation. ( that's about the 9 or 10th one ). It's going to be good, knowing the weather is changing, Sat in the house, fire on, warm & dry, watching them at the door. The last one, was knocking for a while, put a letter through the letter box, & just to p*** them off, I shouted, close the gate after you.
As our host said, don't interact with them. Even the last seemingly innocuous statement about closing the gate after you will be construed as you having acknowledged who they were and why they were there, if it ever gets to court.
@@davidspear9790 Hi David, I have a " do not knock, notice on my front door, so nobody should be knocking, anyway. Also many people, have had the close the gate, comment. ( that's putting it nicely). Take away leaflets, mps wanting a vote. There is no law saying, I have to answer door to tv licence goons, or any body else.
Oh and a note on door bells, maybe the people on here don't like to have to subscribe to Ring's services, in which case the Eufy Door Bell is better as the video is stored on the local box it is supplied with indoors via WiFi, one off purchase, no monthly fees, I'd have to guess that people who prefer not to watch live TV and pay the BBC might like that option better
It's why I've never bought one of those or the various security cameras on the market. Can't stand when you've got to pay a subscription for storage that can be done locally.
@@paul756uk2 you don't pay for storage with Ring. It's a one off purchase price and then free to use. I think you only need to pay if you have more than one Ring camera though. Good to know there's decent alternatives though.
@@noggintube I know that you get a certain amount of free storage but I thought after that you had to pay. My son's got one though I'm not sure if he pays. I looked at the eufy stuff and it seems pretty good.
That first goon visited my house last year. As soon as he asked me questions without introducing himself, I followed your advice to the letter. Never seen him again
Buying a Poppy🤔 do you realise it was reported that the British Legion had £75 Million in the Bank, yet they don't help Soldiers on the street or with other trauma problems, you need to look up Jim Davidson X Soldiers/Veterans Charity, that money goes to the vulnerable and needy, so shove the Poppies, very surprised you haven't looked that up🥴
It's a scam, maybe sometime in the past it was noble but no charity in todays modern age is noble. Don't give them any money, it goes to employees/CEO salaries of the "charities".
@Chris I'm glad you got help, it wouldn't happen today though. They sat only 74 million last year and left the homeless to fend for themselves. Shameful 😔
well done to all these people. If they keep coming to your door write to their head office and threaten to sue them for harrassment if they keep sending their salesmen around.
I got rid of my licence just over a year ago, Jon - since then, I've had about 6 visits already and around about at least 20 letters of differing standards and variations. At least now they using to "the occupier" on them instead . . . However, I don't think they'll ever give up trying to put a scare into people in to paying money for it every time until something is finally done via the government to bring a complete stop to it all . . .
Sadly if the licence is scrapped unless the bbc becomes a subscription service , it will be funded by stealth tax of some sort , and then even people without tv licences will be paying again and even homes without any form of tv viewing will be feeling the pinch .
@AgainstTheSystem .ATS yeah don't pay these fuck heads, I'm shocked to think people still actually watch any TV? When there's sod all on it, I find more enjoyment on prime or from my own stuff
August 2020 I tried to contact the TVLA through their website to cancel my licence rather than just stop paying. Couldn't get through so used the complaints procedure. Within a week, they acknowledged my intent and said they would contact me again in about two years to see if my situation has changed. Well, last week an email from them to which I replied nothing had changed and had an email saying ok. No letters, no visists. If you do it properly then it isn't a problem.
@@K-Man76 Hi Keith, I understand your point but unlike the BBC (through a Royal Chater), Amazon, my mobile and ISP, do not have the responsibility to administer the Telecommunications Act 2003. The Law puts the onus on the BBC to, in effect, police the Act and they do so through the TVLA. So in the two and a half years without a licence I've had one email asking for an update on the status quo. It took two minutes of my time to read and reply accordingly. Should I receive any letters I'll just ignore them and if I get a visit then I'll just politely ask who's calling and then politely ask them to leave and close the door.
Afternoon Jon We've just received a new style TV licencing request letter today, I just love how the BBC play on words,to scare folk into buying a license. Keep up the good work Regards steelworks
Yeah got the letter at a few properties yesterday and say they are coming on the 17th they are going to be busy that day!!! what a load of rubbish these letters are makes me so happy i dont pay or watch live TV
One uses a stamp with faded edges to look like it’s done by hand. The signature in blue matches the other on the bottom of the letter perfectly. There’s another that the envelope is in a hand written font to appear hand delivered but it’s clearly franked by RM.
@@alastairward2774 are but capita work for the BBC cough cough pedo ring, and I find it quite annoying that they keep sending threatening letters regarding court fines etc. Then we get on to the .... WILL YOU BE HOME ON THE XXX EXPECT A VISIT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT AGENT... I wish one would show up as I don't particularly like being threatened be it by letter or personally. So if someone says that they are visiting my property on XXX I expect them to visit. So when they do actually show up I will enjoy every moment of our confrontation.
He stated that they had to ensure they were talking to the right person before they identified themselves which is an out right lie and these proper need to lose their jobs for lying to the public !
Always keep my front door locked, cancelled licence in June not had a visit or any letters yet. Having watched a lot of these goon visit videos the black folder seems to be a theme so will look out for that if I get a visit, I will say exactly what you have advised to say and shut the door.
Is really how you want to live the rest of your life, in fear, with senses heightened in order to guard yourself against a visit by them? Either pay the licence fee or allow them to inspect your installation and verify that you can't and don't watch live television. Then you can have a less stressful life. But no, continue the game if you want.
Remember to advise everyone in your household what to do if they answer the door to one of these guys. Be polite, make it clear you are not interested in talking to them, and shut the door. Don't say things like "I don't need a TV license" or "I don't watch live TV". Tell them NOTHING. They are noting down and using every single interaction they have with you, and in the event that something does go wrong they will use everything against you.
I knew a baby sitter who answered the door, she said she doesn't live there . That's fine, he said I'll just take your details. After that, he explained if the homeowner doesn't buy a license, she'll be fined. The home owner panicked and bought a licence. Everyone in your house has to be on board. Then 12mths later, you can share your TV licence savings amongst Everyone 🙂
Dangerous game to play. Any interaction will be used as acknowledgment that you knew who they were and why they were there, should it ever go to court.
@@davidspear9790 My risk. No TV licence, No TV, No entry, so what are they going to bring to the court? If they can't take a joke, they shouldn't have joined.
I love doing this with internet scammers. I kept one on with a silly story for an hour before rickrolling him over screenshare. Had a good laugh. Mustn't have been the sharpest tool in the shed as they seemed to think they had me.
I have a door-knock strategy that so far has been 100% effective with anyone I don't know or recognise as an identifiable authority figure. It goes like this: Knock knock! I open the door and see clipboard man/woman (they're invariably carrying a clipboard) standing there. I immediately greet them (in a friendly and conversational manner) thus: "Oh hello. What are you selling?" Their reply 100% so far is, 'I'm not selling anything." To which I reply (again in a friendly and conversational manner), " That's great because I'm not buying anything. Good day." And I close the door. So far no one has ever come back.
Can't wait for a TV person come to me or my neighbour. We are in a house that has been made into two flats, flat 1 for me and flat 2 for him. Both of us have a licence but for the last 5 years TV Licence have been sending letters saying that a goon will be out for flat 1-2, not flat 1 or flat 2 but flat 1-2. We so want to open the door and say "well this is 1-2" and let them see the 5foot hallway we share before the stairs up to our main flat doors. 😆
It's like cold calling on the phone. Get rid of them sure, but have the most fun at their expense in the process. Love the points out of ten. If it was more fun for you than for them, then that's a 10 out of 10 for sure :-)
The goons absolutely hate Ring doorbells - Their secret weapon (surprise) is lost and homeowners can now approach the door (or not) fully prepared to make mugs out of them. My dream visit is a goon knocking on the door whilst I am on the bog. I have the script, memorised, ready to unleash on the poor clown. Great work, pal.
Best thing is to never even acknowledge you are home, get on with enjoying your life while they waste their time waiting and getting absolutely nothing. A script is nice but there's the real chance they'll devise a trap but to trap you from refusing to speak to them is inherently much harder as they have nothing to work with. Be careful even asking them to leave as they will take this as proof you are the owner/tenant of that address.
8/10 he did sound nervous but I'm sure he learnt a lot. At the point I hear the word TV licence I close the door. I do not engage them. How cheeky of them to be asking not to post and scrutinize them.
I wasnt nervous i found it funny. In the silent moments i was sniggering pointing at giant 30 on my door and i told them nothing. I was off guard its true was about to jump in a shower. It was my first ever visit
I think you are wrong when you say that you shouldn’t talk to them. I think you should talk to them as much as possible, you shouldn’t answer any questions but should ask plenty of them. The reason for this is because these goons work on commission and it should be everyone’s right to waste as much of their time as possible. Imagine if everyone they visit in a day kept them talking for half an hour or so with no sale at the end of the day.
Hey Jon not sure if you will ever see this but the leaf on the poppy should point at 11 to represent the eleventh hour of the eleventh day 😊 They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them.
TV licence crawlers are one of the best sources of wind up's around. I always tell them I refuse to buy a licence and then shut the door in their face.
1st Vid - 9.1/10 2nd Vid - 10/10 3rd Vid - 6.8/10 All had the desired effect and all resulted in the goon being discharged accordingly, but the golden rule for me is......the less contact, the better. The best isn't always simple, but simple is always best.
Notice how they always face the two lenses of the handheld device straight at the person answering the door. Has anyone ever Subject Access Requested the images / audio / video recording taken by the device ?
Just got a letter with "INVESTIGATION STARTED" in big letters on the front. The scare mongering they do in the letters would definitely frighten some people. Even if they dont need a TV licence
Coming 9 months later for this comment I got a simular letter put through my college dorm door, which I found odd af cause I actually do have a TV license so getting a letter beign threatened to be fined 1k for not being licensed is weird af and I'm.waiting for the goons tk show up to tell them I am licensed, I have proof I'm.licensed so they can fuck ogf
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There's a good view of that handheld device that they use at 1:45. I know that Jon was trying to find out what the device is capable of doing in another of his videos.
A simple 2 finger salute right in the face on camera gets you the jackpot score. Shut the door. When he gets to the gate Follow the goon down the path and moon him, ... gets you a brucie bonus😂😂😂
I wonder if they will be calling when the weather gets really bad . Keep them standing as long as you can after they have rung the bell then just as they are about to leave open the door and do just as Chilli says
Clip 1 would be a 9/10 for me. Took a bit longer than necessary but the goon didn't identify himself when the door was answered, just went straight into identifying the occupant. A conversation would have been needed to lead into the "who are you?" and the required door slam.
I have a feeling that when the review of the charter happens if anything they'll push to make it cover all live broadcasting, so twitch streams, TH-cam streams and stuff like ring doorbells may also fall under their control.
I've never paid either, I live in the North of Ireland and if they come to the estate I'm in they'll either get shot at or their cars burned. They already done it in creggan a few years back, masked men pulled the driver out of the car then shot and burned it, they obviously let him go
I like the absence of any effing and jeffing in all of these clips. Everyone was courtious, which was good. You might not agree with the goons (and I don't) but there's no need to bring yourself down to their level. I cringe at clips like that. The main thing is no TV licenses were issued in the making of these clips. Good effort all round 👍
Chilli, if you didn't have a bit of a Tete a Tete between the antagonist and the public you wouldn't have anything to show. I say ten for reacting to the goons.
Surely the goons should know by now that CCTV and Ring doorbells etc are common place now, so they should be acting professionally and politely - as they should be in the first place!!
Just over 2 years ago I had a few goons turn up at my door on and off, originally I just ignored them completely but 1 caught me off guard and we engaged in conversation... he asked me who I was and I told him I am the Brother of the home owner just staying for a few days before he (me) sells up and relocates. Now the threatening letters they send are no longer addressed to my name, the letters are addressed to 'the legal occupier' Mission accomplished 😁
Good to see that the TV licencing staff are behaving sensibly and taking no thank you for an answer (the last one could have been a bit better). Does telling them "no thank you" get recorded? Is a no answer visit more likely to cause them a return visit? If they return when someone else answers the door and may give them too much information away. Scores I'd give: 9, 8 or 10 (depending if they are single occupancy, or if everyone in the house understands how to deal with them), and another 9. There are alternatives to Ring that record locally (some on the device, which has theft concerns), but the Ring ecosystem is very strong and the subscription becomes very cost effective after 3 or more devices.
I honestly have nothing to hide I'm not watching live broadcast or anything from the beeb BUT I've told my kids and Mrs what to do if they knock....just politely close the door. Job done
Haven't voted either so you don't think it is necessary for citizens to participate in the government of the country. Bet you complain about things though.
@@dpnice7721 why would i complain, all i do if any other man or woman from any government, or public body trespasses on my property then i make a claim against then. Look up the difference between complain and claim.
@@mauricebarnett6951 You misunderstood me. If you don't vote then I feel that you have no right to complain about any government, local or national, policies. No complaining about taxes, price rises, laws, the police, etc. I understand your view about trespass and agree; you have not understood what I ment by complain.
@@dpnice7721 you clearly misunderstood me, i would never complain about any man or woman employed at Government, howrver i have a right to make a claim against any man or woman who trespasses on my private property, that includes any public policy that interferes with my private property
@@mauricebarnett6951 As I said I agree with your stand on trespass;but how do you feel about taxes, TV licence, traffic laws, government spending, etc? If you don't vote then really you should have no right to an opinion on them.
I'm kicking myself. Went through all this nonsense last time I lived on my own 10+ years ago and was caught off guard when I moved into my new place and got the letter and did the whole no TV thing. Wish I'd just ignored it. There's no reasoning with them. It's corporate bullying.
Surely in your scoring system a perfect 10 should be reserved for those people who keep the Goon on their doorstep for hours without learning anything, the longer he spends with you the less time he has to annoy other people - I suggest trying to convert him to your brand of religion (don't have one, OK make one up), he'll be off quicker than you can say Jehovah's Witness .
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Im number 3 😀. Wasnt nervous just kept pointing at giant 30 and grinning
Thanks for what you do mate! One quick question! I have a neighbour whose a bit of an idiot to put it nicely, if I got a visit and shut the door on them I can see him involving himself and maybe telling them I've got a TV in the house (he doesn't know what a game console is). Will that be enough evidence to get them a warrant? Not that I've anything to hide because I don't watch the tv anyway, it's all bollocks.
I loved how video 2 was funny the goon standing like a dummy
Video 3 was a bit to chatty for my liking
Brilliant explanation john, I’ve not got a camera or a doorbell I’m not prepared to pay the expense to tell that goon to eff off.
If that guy came to my door he would get short change from me by way of shutting the door in his face!
My all time favourite:
Goon ''May I take your name please sir?''
Brummie: No you CAN'T. I'm still using it!!!!''
Excellent 👌 😂
Its illegal to use a legal name. . . . . . . . Google legal name fraud.
Along the same line, can I have your name ,Why is your own not good enough.
Give your name as Jimmy Saville and shut the door - he got no hassles to
The old ones are the best 😂🤣
The goons want you to take the videos down because they don't want their friends and family seeing them perform their shameful duties.
Over 75 - Had a visit - wife out in front garden at the time - goon by gate, She asked who are you? He said TV Licensing. She said no thank you. Well trained by me.
1974 was the year Australia stopped with the TV licence game. Amazing the BBC still puts the UK through such an antiquated model.
There are so many countries still using the TV licence, Ireland and Germany are the worst.
@@georgebarnes8163 I did not realise. Such a strange system.
@@daniel1970ification In Ireland a licence is required to own a TV (160 Euro) even a broken one, in Germany every household must have a licence even if they do not have a TV (220 Euro). Some countries need a licence to use the internet and to listen to a radio.
It's because the BBC brings in about 5 billion pounds a year, and 3.8 of that comes from TV licences. So the reason people in the UK still has to deal with +this+ shit more or less boils down to greed.
Hearing America having to pay for tv was strange to hear, but a tv licence that you can get fined for is next level wow. Glad to have Freeview here, there’s some decent shows on it that stands out from the reality tv..
I would give higher scores where the goon is told to sling their hook or FO from the first moment.
If you abuse them they are likely to call the police, and anything you say could be used as evidence to obtain a search warrant from a judge, you need to be very careful when trying to act like a smart Alec, just no thanks close the door is the best coarse of action.
@@PercyLightfoot Open the door say get of my property now, close the door. A magistrate i believe.
@@PercyLightfoot Telling them to FO is nothing to do with the police.
Definitely good advice, we don’t have to be friendly, just polite 😉
Cancelled in July by correct method. Have had three letters and one goon already. This is harassment. Have a no cold calling sign on door but still knocked. Disgusting.
Same. Cancelled correctly. Been under investigation ever since. 11 letters two goon visits.
@@colinlacey9993 They are desperate for income. I don't know anyone under 40 years old who pays the TV tax.
Well stop owning a television without paying for the license, it's that simple, everyone says they don't need a license until they get fined 😅
@@SharreIWright You DON'T need a license to own or watch a TV. You only need one if you watch LIVE broadcasts or IPlayer.
@@allancopland1768 Exactly. It should be renamed to 'live broadcast licence'. Calling it the TV licence cons people into thinking they need one just because they own a TV, something the TVL agents are all to willing to exploit.
What I found when I first started getting visited was how hard it was to _not_ identify myself when they asked me if I was Mr Uren. It was just automatic 'Are you such-and-such?'
'Yes.' Is such an easy thing to fall into. Once I'd cracked that one, it was easy. I often start with 'Never mind who I am, Who are you?'
'I'm from TV licensing.'
'NO thanks!' *Bang* (sound of the door closing 😉)
the correct answer to "are you X?" or "Can I speak to X?" is always "who's asking?"
@@FoxDren even though I'm an old man, I can usually totally un nerve them, I'm not paying for propaganda or the BBC who I believe are controlled by the CCP , the news is jackanory, they put people in fear so they can't think straight 👍
Yes, that's the trick: overcoming our "British politeness", and not automatically confirming our names without knowing who's asking...
'Who are you?' is exactly the right thing to say.
They are approaching you, on your property: you are sovereign here.
Just say you are not going to confirm or deny that, anything you give can and will be used against you. your name is your enemy, N-A-ME = enemy it's hidden in plain sight.
i cancelled our licence in december 2018. in february 2019 there was a knock at the door, upon opening the door the geezer said "hello i'm doing a survey into what channels people watch on tv" i knew immediately it was tv licensing being devious trying to get people to admit to watching live tv. he duly got the door in his face without a word from me. so far no other goons have been back
LOVE IT
Staggering. They ask for details before introducing themselves or saying who they are. If anyone behaves like that there is only one reason - their whole outfit is shady.
"I need to get your details, so I can help you."
Yeah, help them to spend £159, and/or get a conviction.
Yeah he was cheeky lol. Im the audio guy
They were denied any money. Well done all of you!
You stick a note on the door saying ‘self isolating’.
Job done ✅
Never thought of that
Perfect
Nice
I have covid, can I give you a kiss?
What about deliveries?
Are chin warmers the new fashion?
You inspired me...and my Nan to bin the BBC tax. Thank you.
Good on you. Remember itv are free to watch network.and all others channels so why should you pay the bbc if you no longer require there services
its not a tax its an extortion racket perpertrated through fear and deceit
@@Mikebuster so tax 🤣
@@alanalexander7579 Fair enough, but as i've already asked, how do you prove it to these people ?
If the Goon is using his private car for work I hope he has business insurance .
He is checked by a manager for correct insurance before using private car. They are also alerted when the renewal date is due for a recheck of insurance. They also have random checks on driving license, mot and insurance.
@@peteradams5857 You make them sound like responsible professional people rather than worthless parasites. Is that intentional?
@@icdgyixifyinstereo No ....I hate them. I just answered a point raised. To drive their own car for this job the insurance is checked by managers etc. Cant wait for them to turn up on my doorstep.
@@peteradams5857 I suspect you detailed what they are supposed to do. I find myself wondering how many supervisors actually do those checks. Looking at the sort of low rent types they send to bang on doors, I can't imagine the supervisors are all of the highest quality or diligence. They are employed by Crapita after all, a company with a reputation for being more interested in getting the most dosh for the least effort.
@@remittanceman4685 once those idiots start work the details of MOT, Insurance and driving licence are stored in a computer. This then sends out reminders for checks to be done. The supervisors have to sign a legal document saying they have checked these and then enter the details. One supervisor in the south west of England was sacked for saying he checked these documents when in fact he didnt. He is now facing criminal court case after the TV Goon was involved in a serious road crash. He had no insurance on his car for nearly 3 months after his renewal was due.
Upside of this ..............the goon can watch TV for free in prison. 😁😁👍👍
Mate , I have watched you and I am deeply grateful for all your time and enough , I was very afraid but totally sick of the bcc , you helped me so much ( to be brave ) Thank you
That's really good as no one should feel afraid especially in their own home. Personally I keep them at my door for as long as possible because in my head if I can waste an hour of their time it might save someone else for being harassed, bullied and intimidated.
I haven’t got a door bell,or a knocker. My front porch door is always locked. I also have a notice saying No Doorstep Sellers.
Same here John I bought a sticker saying No Sales No Religion etc Seems to work :)
`No cold callers' covers them ;)
@@yorkshirepud6676 I have one of them and it still doesn't stop people from knocking on my door to selling me whatever I just point to the sticker and close the door
But they are not doorstep sellers, are they?
@@yorkshirepud6676 had one on the door, they still keep knockin
My standard response is “I don’t deal with anyone on my doorstep” and shut the door, polite but firm. I’ve just got rid of my licence, and that lot will be treated the same if they knock. I used to be too nice, but learned my lesson and now I don’t even give them chance to speak, that’s if I bother answering at all.
First one give him a 8
Hidden cameras are the best.
You want them to act freely.
That's very good advice.
@Why Bother That works too.
I'm yet to have a goon at my door, but I can't wait for the day that I get to say 'I don't speak to salesmen' and shut the door in their face. I'll make sure to video it too lol
Am ready and waiting to view Sian :)
Meeee tooooo 😄🤣😂
SAME! I feel left out..lol
I’m going to say : “ Are you here because you believe I’m a liar?”
No Cold Callers including T.V. Licencing.
Just had another letter arrived, saying we are under investigation. ( that's about the 9 or 10th one ). It's going to be good, knowing the weather is changing, Sat in the house, fire on, warm & dry, watching them at the door. The last one, was knocking for a while, put a letter through the letter box, & just to p*** them off, I shouted, close the gate after you.
Fire on... TV on and curtains closed lol
Sorry I'm busy. Don't want to miss the end of this film.
@Why Bother just received another letter, that goes in the bin aswell.
As our host said, don't interact with them. Even the last seemingly innocuous statement about closing the gate after you will be construed as you having acknowledged who they were and why they were there, if it ever gets to court.
@@davidspear9790 Hi David, I have a " do not knock, notice on my front door, so nobody should be knocking, anyway. Also many people, have had the close the gate, comment. ( that's putting it nicely). Take away leaflets, mps wanting a vote. There is no law saying, I have to answer door to tv licence goons, or any body else.
First video was worth an 8/10. The last audio recording was also decent. Just a bit of interaction before the door shut. Again, a solid 8/10.
Literally never seen this channel before didn't know this topic was a thing but I bloody love it! Keep up the great work!
It's ridiculous when you think about it. If you don't drive you don't get the DVLA knocking on your door to check up on you! lol
But if you have a car you do.
Im the guy in the voice recording 😱😀
I didnt tell them anything just grinned and pointed at my door number. Was about to go for a shower
Oh and a note on door bells, maybe the people on here don't like to have to subscribe to Ring's services, in which case the Eufy Door Bell is better as the video is stored on the local box it is supplied with indoors via WiFi, one off purchase, no monthly fees, I'd have to guess that people who prefer not to watch live TV and pay the BBC might like that option better
Thanks for the tip!
It's why I've never bought one of those or the various security cameras on the market. Can't stand when you've got to pay a subscription for storage that can be done locally.
Yes I have a Eufy door bell too, I also like the fact you don't have to pay for storage costs when it's stored on your own base station.
@@paul756uk2 you don't pay for storage with Ring. It's a one off purchase price and then free to use. I think you only need to pay if you have more than one Ring camera though. Good to know there's decent alternatives though.
@@noggintube I know that you get a certain amount of free storage but I thought after that you had to pay. My son's got one though I'm not sure if he pays. I looked at the eufy stuff and it seems pretty good.
That first goon visited my house last year. As soon as he asked me questions without introducing himself, I followed your advice to the letter. Never seen him again
Buying a Poppy🤔 do you realise it was reported that the British Legion had £75 Million in the Bank, yet they don't help Soldiers on the street or with other trauma problems, you need to look up Jim Davidson X Soldiers/Veterans Charity, that money goes to the vulnerable and needy, so shove the Poppies, very surprised you haven't looked that up🥴
Yep, seen that too. Disgraceful.
It's a scam, maybe sometime in the past it was noble but no charity in todays modern age is noble. Don't give them any money, it goes to employees/CEO salaries of the "charities".
@Chris I'm glad you got help, it wouldn't happen today though.
They sat only 74 million last year and left the homeless to fend for themselves. Shameful 😔
A poppy is also a sign of respect - doesn’t just mean you are donating to the British legion
@@randomchannel5386 Then make your own, will take 5 minutes.
Thanks again ChilliJon , I like your approach to this problem we have in the UK.
well done to all these people. If they keep coming to your door write to their head office and threaten to sue them for harrassment if they keep sending their salesmen around.
Don’t contact them
That will give them ur name and address
We are the Goon squad, and we're coming to town. Beep Beep.
Apparentely I’m being visited soon! Watching these for tips
I got rid of my licence just over a year ago, Jon - since then, I've had about 6 visits already and around about at least 20 letters of differing standards and variations. At least now they using to "the occupier" on them instead . . . However, I don't think they'll ever give up trying to put a scare into people in to paying money for it every time until something is finally done via the government to bring a complete stop to it all . . .
Sadly if the licence is scrapped unless the bbc becomes a subscription service , it will be funded by stealth tax of some sort , and then even people without tv licences will be paying again and even homes without any form of tv viewing will be feeling the pinch .
@AgainstTheSystem .ATS yeah don't pay these fuck heads, I'm shocked to think people still actually watch any TV? When there's sod all on it, I find more enjoyment on prime or from my own stuff
August 2020 I tried to contact the TVLA through their website to cancel my licence rather than just stop paying. Couldn't get through so used the complaints procedure. Within a week, they acknowledged my intent and said they would contact me again in about two years to see if my situation has changed. Well, last week an email from them to which I replied nothing had changed and had an email saying ok. No letters, no visists. If you do it properly then it isn't a problem.
@@vinbar35 trust me they are so dumb it's beyond a joke and they give idiocy a bad name
@@K-Man76 Hi Keith, I understand your point but unlike the BBC (through a Royal Chater), Amazon, my mobile and ISP, do not have the responsibility to administer the Telecommunications Act 2003. The Law puts the onus on the BBC to, in effect, police the Act and they do so through the TVLA. So in the two and a half years without a licence I've had one email asking for an update on the status quo. It took two minutes of my time to read and reply accordingly. Should I receive any letters I'll just ignore them and if I get a visit then I'll just politely ask who's calling and then politely ask them to leave and close the door.
If the door is answered. All callers. As quick as you can, Sorry house policy we don’t deal with anybody at the door close the door .Job done.
Afternoon Jon
We've just received a new style TV licencing request letter today, I just love how the BBC play on words,to scare folk into buying a license.
Keep up the good work
Regards steelworks
Yeah got the letter at a few properties yesterday and say they are coming on the 17th they are going to be busy that day!!! what a load of rubbish these letters are makes me so happy i dont pay or watch live TV
They can fund their own paedo ring
One uses a stamp with faded edges to look like it’s done by hand. The signature in blue matches the other on the bottom of the letter perfectly. There’s another that the envelope is in a hand written font to appear hand delivered but it’s clearly franked by RM.
It's not the BBC though, it's Capita mucking about.
The BBC just needs to be given a funding source like they have in other countries.
@@alastairward2774 are but capita work for the BBC cough cough pedo ring, and I find it quite annoying that they keep sending threatening letters regarding court fines etc. Then we get on to the .... WILL YOU BE HOME ON THE XXX EXPECT A VISIT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT AGENT...
I wish one would show up as I don't particularly like being threatened be it by letter or personally. So if someone says that they are visiting my property on XXX I expect them to visit. So when they do actually show up I will enjoy every moment of our confrontation.
I haven't had any goon visits yet. I think I'm coming up to 12 months since I cancelled so maybe they're imminent!
2 years this month for me and no visits or letters either, just 1 email
am doing well 2019 till now :( feeling left out well my Budgie lov's me ..
He stated that they had to ensure they were talking to the right person before they identified themselves which is an out right lie and these proper need to lose their jobs for lying to the public !
Who Are You: you want their full name, and then 'Not Interested'. :)
So is that 'mask under the chin' the correct usage of those things? If that's the case I've seen soooo many people wearing them wrong lol
Always keep my front door locked, cancelled licence in June not had a visit or any letters yet. Having watched a lot of these goon visit videos the black folder seems to be a theme so will look out for that if I get a visit, I will say exactly what you have advised to say and shut the door.
Just use the T.V to watch DVDs.
Is really how you want to live the rest of your life, in fear, with senses heightened in order to guard yourself against a visit by them?
Either pay the licence fee or allow them to inspect your installation and verify that you can't and don't watch live television.
Then you can have a less stressful life.
But no, continue the game if you want.
Remember to advise everyone in your household what to do if they answer the door to one of these guys. Be polite, make it clear you are not interested in talking to them, and shut the door. Don't say things like "I don't need a TV license" or "I don't watch live TV". Tell them NOTHING. They are noting down and using every single interaction they have with you, and in the event that something does go wrong they will use everything against you.
I knew a baby sitter who answered the door, she said she doesn't live there . That's fine, he said I'll just take your details. After that, he explained if the homeowner doesn't buy a license, she'll be fined. The home owner panicked and bought a licence. Everyone in your house has to be on board.
Then 12mths later, you can share your TV licence savings amongst Everyone 🙂
Shutting the door too soon spoils the fun.
Some of us like to inflict just a little humiliation first...
sadist. 🤣🤣
Dangerous game to play. Any interaction will be used as acknowledgment that you knew who they were and why they were there, should it ever go to court.
@@davidspear9790 My risk.
No TV licence, No TV, No entry, so what are they going to bring to the court?
If they can't take a joke, they shouldn't have joined.
I love doing this with internet scammers. I kept one on with a silly story for an hour before rickrolling him over screenshare. Had a good laugh. Mustn't have been the sharpest tool in the shed as they seemed to think they had me.
The more time I can get them to waste on my bullshit the less time they have to harass old folks and families
Love these videos, thanks for sharing Jon. …..
“we’re finished thank you buddy i know the rules on this” and just closes the door 🤣🤣🤣
I have a door-knock strategy that so far has been 100% effective with anyone I don't know or recognise as an identifiable authority figure.
It goes like this:
Knock knock!
I open the door and see clipboard man/woman (they're invariably carrying a clipboard) standing there.
I immediately greet them (in a friendly and conversational manner) thus: "Oh hello. What are you selling?"
Their reply 100% so far is, 'I'm not selling anything."
To which I reply (again in a friendly and conversational manner), " That's great because I'm not buying anything. Good day."
And I close the door. So far no one has ever come back.
Can't wait for a TV person come to me or my neighbour.
We are in a house that has been made into two flats, flat 1 for me and flat 2 for him.
Both of us have a licence but for the last 5 years TV Licence have been sending letters saying that a goon will be out for flat 1-2, not flat 1 or flat 2 but flat 1-2.
We so want to open the door and say "well this is 1-2" and let them see the 5foot hallway we share before the stairs up to our main flat doors.
😆
Or you could just open the door and explain there are two flats and ask them which they are interested in?
Why complicate it?
Jon rating the goon visits. Love it. Far more entertaining than the BBC these days :)
No privacy issues at all . They come onto your property , let the games begin .
He means as far as it filming neighbours on their own private property in the background.
I love the fact people dont wanna give tv license people details but are happy to allow amazon look at their lifes and listen in 24 7
Because it is my choice to use Amazon which I can terminate, they are trying to force me to have a TV licence. not quite the same ☺️
This is a random person turning up at the door they could be an axe murderer.....
It's like cold calling on the phone. Get rid of them sure, but have the most fun at their expense in the process. Love the points out of ten. If it was more fun for you than for them, then that's a 10 out of 10 for sure :-)
When these Goons from TVL are writing you to stop showing their faces, you know they’re up to no good!
Jon. Keep going because you're doing us all a great deal of good. Best wishes. x
The goons absolutely hate Ring doorbells - Their secret weapon (surprise) is lost and homeowners can now approach the door (or not) fully prepared to make mugs out of them.
My dream visit is a goon knocking on the door whilst I am on the bog. I have the script, memorised, ready to unleash on the poor clown.
Great work, pal.
Best thing is to never even acknowledge you are home, get on with enjoying your life while they waste their time waiting and getting absolutely nothing.
A script is nice but there's the real chance they'll devise a trap but to trap you from refusing to speak to them is inherently much harder as they have nothing to work with.
Be careful even asking them to leave as they will take this as proof you are the owner/tenant of that address.
The scores are in. 6/10, 9/10, 7/10.
Always nice to see Crapita being crapped on.
Keep up tthe good work.
👍 for the clips and the dreaded Algorithm. Keep at it folks.
I could answer with "Idon't need your services. Have a great day!" ?
8/10 he did sound nervous but I'm sure he learnt a lot. At the point I hear the word TV licence I close the door. I do not engage them. How cheeky of them to be asking not to post and scrutinize them.
I wasnt nervous i found it funny. In the silent moments i was sniggering pointing at giant 30 on my door and i told them nothing. I was off guard its true was about to jump in a shower. It was my first ever visit
If they come knocking on my door I will say no, the old-age home is that way! 👉🏽
I think you are wrong when you say that you shouldn’t talk to them. I think you should talk to them as much as possible, you shouldn’t answer any questions but should ask plenty of them. The reason for this is because these goons work on commission and it should be everyone’s right to waste as much of their time as possible. Imagine if everyone they visit in a day kept them talking for half an hour or so with no sale at the end of the day.
I agree if you have the spare time it would be quite funny to keep them at the door for as long as possible
Be careful though or they may come back with the plod and say you were guilty of obstruction
👍
@@stephenhill8790 I doubt it
@Pollywog but if you say the wrong thing they appy for a warrant to serch your house and bring plod along to enforce it
Hey Jon not sure if you will ever see this but the leaf on the poppy should point at 11 to represent the eleventh hour of the eleventh day 😊
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
TV licence crawlers are one of the best sources of wind up's around. I always tell them I refuse to buy a licence and then shut the door in their face.
I couldn't shut the door straight away without explaining the law to the TV guy, then closing it.
You know what deters people from knocking on MY door??? a can of lighter fluid and a lit match😘
Hope you'll be doing a top of the doorbells to buy for an anti goon. Christmas gift.
One with a contactless payment pad to get your money back
1st Vid - 9.1/10
2nd Vid - 10/10
3rd Vid - 6.8/10
All had the desired effect and all resulted in the goon being discharged accordingly, but the golden rule for me is......the less contact, the better. The best isn't always simple, but simple is always best.
Notice how they always face the two lenses of the handheld device straight at the person answering the door.
Has anyone ever Subject Access Requested the images / audio / video recording taken by the device ?
Great stuff there's also the opportunity to say if you're in a no cold calling area "I'm sorry this is a no cold calling area good bye"
Just got a letter with "INVESTIGATION STARTED" in big letters on the front. The scare mongering they do in the letters would definitely frighten some people. Even if they dont need a TV licence
Coming 9 months later for this comment
I got a simular letter put through my college dorm door, which I found odd af cause I actually do have a TV license so getting a letter beign threatened to be fined 1k for not being licensed is weird af and I'm.waiting for the goons tk show up to tell them I am licensed, I have proof I'm.licensed so they can fuck ogf
Well Done people ...Yes Please Mr Carne more vid`s would be great showing people what Not to Do + What too Do, I like all that were shown today GREAT Job you Guy's!
The goons really are clueless! Asking you not to post videos of them because it makes their job more difficult. That's the whole idea of the channel!
They know that they are doing wrong and do not want to be identified.
My dogs killed and ate one. I expected some kind of follow-up of course but nothing ever happened. I've never owned a TV.
There's a good view of that handheld device that they use at 1:45. I know that Jon was trying to find out what the device is capable of doing in another of his videos.
One good thing to come from this is they seem to carry the same gear; it's easier to identify them. Need to get me one of those ring doorbells.
A fantastic collection showing, thanks to this channel, everyone united for the cause.
A simple 2 finger salute right in the face on camera gets you the jackpot score. Shut the door. When he gets to the gate Follow the goon down the path and moon him, ... gets you a brucie bonus😂😂😂
I wonder if they will be calling when the weather gets really bad . Keep them standing as long as you can after they have rung the bell then just as they are about to leave open the door and do just as Chilli says
Clip 1 would be a 9/10 for me. Took a bit longer than necessary but the goon didn't identify himself when the door was answered, just went straight into identifying the occupant. A conversation would have been needed to lead into the "who are you?" and the required door slam.
I have a feeling that when the review of the charter happens if anything they'll push to make it cover all live broadcasting, so twitch streams, TH-cam streams and stuff like ring doorbells may also fall under their control.
I’ll never pay. Full stop.
I would not pay. Use a vpn if necessary.
The problem with this is, more and more websites block you if you are using a VPN
I've never paid either, I live in the North of Ireland and if they come to the estate I'm in they'll either get shot at or their cars burned.
They already done it in creggan a few years back, masked men pulled the driver out of the car then shot and burned it, they obviously let him go
@@minniebeth I truly despise the BBC.
Such a pain when they turn up in the middle of Dragons Den. Lol
I like the absence of any effing and jeffing in all of these clips. Everyone was courtious, which was good. You might not agree with the goons (and I don't) but there's no need to bring yourself down to their level. I cringe at clips like that.
The main thing is no TV licenses were issued in the making of these clips. Good effort all round 👍
Grow up
Nah, just tell 'em to p*ss off... and they do, every time...
@@michaelandrews4783 Already done that. Been license free for a while too, which I'm guessing has your heckles up a little.
@@MikeEves That's an option too 😜
My sign at the front door says ''I have moved to number 67,482 up the road, see you soon''
9 1/2 because we never saw boiling oil poured down from an upstairs window! 😂🤣😂😉
Who are you? Answer TV license.. response.. get of my property or be trespassed ...end of conversation
So the TV licence GOONS don't like these videos being shown?? Oh dear that's a shame. More please.
Chilli, if you didn't have a bit of a Tete a Tete between the antagonist and the public you wouldn't have anything to show. I say ten for reacting to the goons.
Let's make a competition, everyone do their best impression, then we have to guess who they're doing.
Surely the goons should know by now that CCTV and Ring doorbells etc are common place now, so they should be acting professionally and politely - as they should be in the first place!!
Just over 2 years ago I had a few goons turn up at my door on and off, originally I just ignored them completely but 1 caught me off guard and we engaged in conversation... he asked me who I was and I told him I am the Brother of the home owner just staying for a few days before he (me) sells up and relocates.
Now the threatening letters they send are no longer addressed to my name, the letters are addressed to 'the legal occupier'
Mission accomplished 😁
Love watching goons in England selling TV "licenses". We don't have this in USA. That is whacko.
This is serious stuff here C B, If you watch BBC live as it is broadcast, you pay £145.00 per year, or you could go to jail.
@Pollywog Apparently you can go to jail for not paying the FINE.
In Glasgow they send a bodyguard out with the goon.
Good to see that the TV licencing staff are behaving sensibly and taking no thank you for an answer (the last one could have been a bit better).
Does telling them "no thank you" get recorded? Is a no answer visit more likely to cause them a return visit? If they return when someone else answers the door and may give them too much information away.
Scores I'd give: 9, 8 or 10 (depending if they are single occupancy, or if everyone in the house understands how to deal with them), and another 9.
There are alternatives to Ring that record locally (some on the device, which has theft concerns), but the Ring ecosystem is very strong and the subscription becomes very cost effective after 3 or more devices.
If they find no evidence and keep getting the door shut what happens then do they give up or??? Patiently awaiting my first visit.
8/10 for the Scottish fella. Nice and polite. 👍
Thankyou so much! People keep saying i sound nervous but i wasnt lol and i didnt tell them anything
We are days away from a visit, will ask who they are and end it with not today. Thanks for the confidence.
With the money you save on a TV license get a ring doorbell 👍 love these videos well done 👏
I honestly have nothing to hide I'm not watching live broadcast or anything from the beeb BUT I've told my kids and Mrs what to do if they knock....just politely close the door. Job done
Also helps if you are not on the electoral role, never had a letter and not been licensed for years
Haven't voted either so you don't think it is necessary for citizens to participate in the government of the country. Bet you complain about things though.
@@dpnice7721 why would i complain, all i do if any other man or woman from any government, or public body trespasses on my property then i make a claim against then. Look up the difference between complain and claim.
@@mauricebarnett6951 You misunderstood me.
If you don't vote then I feel that you have no right to complain about any government, local or national, policies. No complaining about taxes, price rises, laws, the police, etc. I understand your view about trespass and agree; you have not understood what I ment by complain.
@@dpnice7721 you clearly misunderstood me, i would never complain about any man or woman employed at Government, howrver i have a right to make a claim against any man or woman who trespasses on my private property, that includes any public policy that interferes with my private property
@@mauricebarnett6951 As I said I agree with your stand on trespass;but how do you feel about taxes, TV licence, traffic laws, government spending, etc? If you don't vote then really you should have no right to an opinion on them.
I like your friendly demeanour. Very watchable!
I'm kicking myself. Went through all this nonsense last time I lived on my own 10+ years ago and was caught off guard when I moved into my new place and got the letter and did the whole no TV thing. Wish I'd just ignored it. There's no reasoning with them. It's corporate bullying.
Surely in your scoring system a perfect 10 should be reserved for those people who keep the Goon on their doorstep for hours without learning anything, the longer he spends with you the less time he has to annoy other people - I suggest trying to convert him to your brand of religion (don't have one, OK make one up), he'll be off quicker than you can say Jehovah's Witness .