I am glad you were astute enough to call him out, and don't take this the wrong way because it isn't meant to belittle you. But that fact that you still bought from them after catching them trying to steal from you is why they remain in business. In life you should never do business with a company that tries to take advantage of you. No exceptions. And thank you for your service to this great country! You deserved better from them. Shame on Camping World.
I promise, just about any RV or car dealership will add stuff to your deal, if you don't look carefully. At that point you can decline the deal, or get it back down to the advertised price. We were also buying in mid-2022. Just about every dealership was out of RVs, especially the less expensive models.
Yes. I got ripped off about two years ago. The lady in the finance department tried to tell me that the only way I could get financing would be to get the "protection plans" and Good Sam. I had never bought a camper before, and yes they attached an additional $6000 to $7000. I wanted to purchase the trailer a few years before retirement. Yes, I made a mistake, but if my mistake can be a cautionary story for somebody else, then so be it.
Thank you for sharing. My daughter and I are about to purchase our first RV. We do not know much about this, but have been checking dealerships out. Thanks so much for this info.
You are probably the MOST honest person on TH-cam!!! People are too arrogant to admit they made a mistake. On ever video on every topic, people NEVER admit to making mistakes. Bless you
Just picked up my Jayco 183RB from Campers world, Kingston NY. I made it clear from the start that this was not my first TT and that all I wanted was the rig itself with none of the accoutrements. When I went to pick it up, it took all of an hour to do a quick walkthrough and sign the paperwork, easy peezy, great experience with absolutely no hassle or high pressure add on nonsense.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.” (Ps. 23:4) The valley of the shadow of death is a place of scarcity, danger, pain, and the unknown. Good luck with CW
Glad you call them out car dealerships do the same and I’ve been taken as well as my husband. I’m getting ready to buy a used pre Covid 19 RV. I’ve been researching and studying so I don’t get scammed. Great info
This guy keeps telling you to be careful anx don't let camping world scam you. Better advice would be to avoid camping world completely. Why do business with a place that is this unscrupulous to begin with?
I hear what you are saying, but I am not just talking about Camping World when I say, "Review your purchase contract carefully." Just about any dealer will try to add things to your purchase price. We went to several other dealers in our area. It was impossible to find anything for less than $35K.
camping world of Valencia ,CA gave me a price for a keystone Hideout...fast forward to finance and this "binder of fees" some they swore mandatory. over inflated tow hitches, Good Sam memberships, orientation fees, destination, clean up and god knows what else which I forgot. Mom and Pop Royal Coach RV in Bakersfield CA has seemed to be more about "transparency " SO FAR... stay tuned, still negotiating
Please do keep us informed. I would like to hear how you fair with a different dealer. Regardless of where you buy, look carefully at the "purchase contract" before you sign it.
I just bought a new camper at CW Anniston, AL. It was a cluster fu.. Had to get the GM involved but ended up getting the price I wanted for the camper I wanted. I turned down all the add-ons they "offered", called and got insurance on it and left. I got a 2024 Rockwood Geo Pro G15TB for $21,276.06 out the door.
I just bought a new toy hauler. The dealer (not camping world) tried to add $12000 in add-ons. I asked them why they did'nt have a bottle of lube ready while they tried to stick it to me. They were'nt to happy over that but I was laughing as I told them no to all 7 different add-ons.
I all most got my trailer from CW. I am so glad my neice knew about all scammers. She confronted these individuals why are you adding all these! She said Nope not today. We walk out CW. Ow! Thats crazy. Thank you for all these messages or text.
A lot of good information on your video. I work as a finance manager at a car dealer and we offer vehicle service contracts, paint, protection, etc. I’ve never once told the customer they are mandatory that they have to get it and the lender requires it. That’s actually illegal. only Only thing I’ll correct you on is gap insurance. I 100% recommend gap insurance if you’re financing more than 80% that means if you’re not putting at least 20% down after taxes.
Thank you so much for doing this video! I am in the market for a new rig currently and youtube is really helping. I've learned that RV dealers are not to be trusted in general!
Thanks so much for your video. I was watching CW video ads because I am 71 and seriously contemplating buying an RV to live in because I own my rural NC acre of land and already have septic tank, electric, and county water. I don't need a big home nor A big monthly mortgage payment. TMI, I know but I am old now.😉 CW is advertising an RV that would suit my needs. I would have been going to Greenville, NC, to "shop" and my camping/boating experienced male relative will be taking me so he can inspect whatever we decide upon. He will make sure I am not taken advantage of. Even so, after watching your video, I will not be doing business with CW because of their shady business practices and the complaints I am reading about their poor after-sale service practices. Thank you for your military service.
similar situation happened to me. I was told I was going to pay 14% interest unless I got the extended warranty products for $7,314 and they would knock the interest down to 9%. I was so excited about the deal I went for it. a month later I canceled the warranty plan and my interest stayed the same! I did get my money back but it took 10 months!
There is a difference between Camping world dealerships around the US. Add on's after the sale are standard practice in the automotive industry as well. The best way I found is before the sale is concluded is you meet with the finance manager and discuss what they offer along with getting the literature of coverage. From there you can either say yes or no to any adds. This is an important step with any purchase. I did purchase an RV from Campers world and using this method I was able to cherry pick the additional items I wanted. You are correct these add are a bonus for the finance manager which is their incentive to sale. Do not be duped into taking all but there are some protections which are nice for the peace of mind if you are so inclined to need. It is up to you the consumer to complete due diligence throughout your purchase. If you feel like it is a scam or a hard sell is best to walk to another dealership there are many out there.
Spot on. We did the same with a 2024 model, some items I wanted some I didn't. This case in California and I said no thanks and they took it off. Even after the fact they found a way to lower my initial monthly payment and not require a larger down payment. Their insurance actually beat my double liberty mutual insurance for all my cars so saved me money with that.
It sounds like your talking about a lot of different dealerships that includes any and all types sales peaple and places people don't pay attention to.. but good video bro. Keep people awoke
Watch Lehto's Law on RVs before purchasing an RV. Just so you know what you are getting and what your rights are (none). Your dealer is your only hope. Make sure the purchase agreement is what you want and are being told. Expect the you " 4:14 bought it, you own it treatment. " go to a dealer you can trust, if there us one
Not only do they try and do scam you out of thousands, but try to get warranty on the junk RV you bought is about impossible. Go to other good RV deals and absolutely stay away from Camping Word. I have never bought from them and never will. Many people are just not smart enough and that’s what they like. They are after raking the first time buyer and do not care about repeat business. This business needs to be out of business !
Several years ago I did buy a portable power station from them in Florida. When I had issues with it, they did help meand get replacement parts, but as far as buying a camper, no I would NOT do that. Another Camping World competitor is Princess Craft in Texas. They have 2 locations in Texas, Round Rock & Katy. I was scammed for $500 . I caught them trying to add the Texas Vit tax to my contract. VIT is a dealer tax, not a consumer tax. Apparently, any deposit you give them, is nonrefundable, even when you don't buy from them.😢
We looked at an RV, only because we knew exactly what we wanted, and that was the closest place (90 min) that had it. Some plan was propane, battery, and washing it, was over $1000. Ridiculous! So we went on down the road! It is kinda fun to see the finance people starting to add on with my husband. He puts them in their place. We are older, so they know they are not going to fall for as much, but they are scamming younger people for sure. Imagine what paint protection costs when financed over 20 years!!!
Pan pacific tried to do the same thing. I didn’t know they were scamming me until your video. I just kept saying no to all the protection plans cause it was making my payment going up. Wow thanks for info
I don't know if I would call them "The Worse" much of what they do is accepted industry practices. (It is awful, but sadly common.) I try to warn everyone to always look at the "Purchase Contract" very carefully, before you sign anything. They will automatically include all kinds of extras and "add-ons," to the deal. Many of these extras you might not want or need. Some of the charges can be negotiated away, if you try. Car dealers do this all the time. Their financing can be beat too. Car dealers will often try to get you to use their financing rather than you use your own Credit Union. (Who will always be the better rate.) RV dealers will do the same.
i had a great experience with camping world. i picked up my RV from them today...i knew all their add ons and talking points...i declined everything i didn't need.
Not to mention Camping World repair is terrible as well. I just paid Camping World in Silverdale, WA to evaluate issue with our coach(03 Win. U35). The 16' power awning would not retract and they said that I needed to purchase a new power awning($3200). I took coach to another CW in Tacoma because they offered reduction in price about $800, total was $2400 instead of $3200. I got a call from them stating that they replaced old awning with new one but awning still will not retract. I asked them why did they tell me it needed replacement but they were unsure since it was another dealer that misdiagnosed it. They got it working again and were supposed to look at wipers as well. They had it for a month but would not return phone calls and I spoke to service manager(James) who told me that he would call me within the hour with update, that was Thursday. We called on Monday informing them we were picking it up and having someone else look at it. When we picked up coach service manager(James) told us it was an electrical box that was problem with awning not awning as we were originally told. They also did not reinstall awing protector, I do not know what happened to it. Coach is now worse than it was when they looked at it. Avoid these guys like the plague
Thanks! I wondered because I walked into dealer about 2 yrs ago and they have contacted me several times saying they found the perfect one for me. Each time I tell them I have the perfect one for me. Usually in 2 weeks to a month another perfect one comes in. I did not feel right even talking to the the first time just had a feeling.
25,000 is not expensive at all for a camper but lets also take some other things into consideration. I am still working and I get 5 weeks of vacation per year, more than most people. I probably spend 20 days, gives or take a few, out of town on leisure where I need to get a hotel. If a hotel costs 100 to 150 per night, that 25,000 dollars would go 8 to 10 years worth of hotel stays. Now consider that you also need to clean, store maintain, repair, insure and pay yearly registration on the camper, plus, you need a rig powerful enough to pull it and spend a boat load on gas, a camper simply doesn't make sense. I get that the camper represents a personal piece of home that is with you where you go, and you might consider it home, but in practical terms, it makes no sense.
Our first purchase from Camping World. It was a 2023 Eddie Bauer 5th wheel. By the time it made it to our campsite, we have a spot on the lake, there were many issues found. It was said to us that the trailer was used as a demo and we bought it new. Many items were taken care of via the warranty. Thing was we had to pay for the Tech to come out and make repairs. We were told it was their policy. Never again.
Stopped in Camping world in Reno. Looked around said the trailer I was looking for was coming soon. Get an email days later asking me what was going on and if I was going to buy the trailer or not. I emailed him back reminding him of our last conversation and not to call me again. Found what I was looking for at 10,000 less and I hadn't even talked with the finance person. That included the extras ( solar panel, slide topper installed) and weight distribution hitch. I doubt the trailer I was looking for even came.
We really got played by Camping World in Conway NH with no add-on features. RV was on sale and we agreed for the price $25,500 deposit $1000. A few days later we went to pick up the RV deposit another $3000. The finance guy said the loan would not be approve unless we buy a 5 year warranty. I told my wife that I didn’t want it but because she wanted so bad I let her make the decision. So we end up buying the RV for a lot more than I wanted to pay. Please please please don’t get scam because we did. And the warranty we bought into we probably not going to use it. Another $3000 down the toilet. This video is very similar to our story
I have a similar problem same thing happened to me .Had them take all insurance plus good Sam's off when I read the final paper work but when I contacted the bank they charged me 7,000 more then what we agreed on. I contacted camping worlds financing and was told they had canceled and the money would be refunded. I call good Sam's insurance and was told it is not canceled. I was told I would not be able to cancel it camping world will have too. I called camping world finance and was told it was canceled. But no money has been received to my bank lone. I don't know what if anything I can do next😢😢
Be careful paying their 1,600 prep fee that includes filling the propane tanks. They only filled 1 tank for me and the other tank was out of propane in minutes. Also don't trust them to ensure all is in working order. Do your own checking or hire an expert. I had a lot of things that did not work that were supposedly checked. over.
Camping world is made up of several departments that do not communicate with each other. Sales department will tell you that the warranty department will handle any problems. The warranty department will say that the sales department had no right to tell you what they will handle or to speak for them. Heard this from a guy from work who sued and finally got their camper fixed after two years of fighting with them. Could not use the camper in all that time but had to pay the monthly note. He got rid of his camper and said he doesn’t trust the industry.
Did they require you to wash it, tighten the bolts, etc..? They wanted to charge us an extra 2k to make the new trailer “road ready” and said that I couldn’t buy the trailer unless I paid an extra 2k.
Didn’t by my RV at camping world. Bought a used RV that was 3 years old but lightly used. The salesman and I finally settled on a price. Went into the finance office, the FO said “how much do you want your payments to be” or something like that. Doc fee was $75. Price of RV + Doc fee, I started stroking that check. FO was a bit surprised.
Caveat Emptor. I would recommend anyone buying a new or used RV hire a 3rd party inspector. Pay close attention to to mechanical systems and their warranties. Make them demonstrate each one, hydraulics, furnace, AC, hot water. Check ALL the caulking, especially the roof! We've already spent 5k fixing all these crappy components on a new 100k trailer in the first 2 years. Warranties are barely worth the paper they're written on.
Yes, but where does one find a qualified, independent, non-partial rv inspector, who will take the time to go to a dealership and go over the vehicle? What would that cost?
@@funinourrv honestly any RV repairman. They are well aware of the most common problems. We're learning the hard way even with a brand new $100k unit. Quality is just lip service anymore.
I would agree that doing so would be a very good idea on a $100K rig, probably worth the price....but... I am mostly talking about units that cost $15-25 K. (Used even less.) What would such an inspection cost? I found one place that charged (min) $299 for a "pre-purchase inspection" with $3.50 per mile. So I guess you could count on $400+. I can see that as reasonable for what it could save you.
@@funinourrv that would be a reasonable cost. AC units, furnace, HW heaters are big ticket items along with water damage. We've already spent 5k just making everything work as it should. Think of it like doing a home inspection, you want to know before pulling the trigger.
We bought a new 2022 toyota highlander from lassin Toyota in Albany oregon. They did this. We got a extra 7k charge but the wife didn't realize it and now when we went to trade it in to get a towing rig. We were told we are over 7k what they would offer for the truck. So we are screwed and can't trade it in till we pay the extra off.
It's like when you purchase a car. The F&I person will offer you all the add-ons. If the F&I person does not offer you the items and you have a claim you can sue the dealership for don't offering it to you.
Just bought a Coleman lantern 17r cash $13750 and I almost had to beg to buy it non financed when finally accepted they wanted to charge me for the walk through and battery propane tank $2200 , went to pickup the trailer and I had to check it myself then I told the salesman that when couple trims missing and my wife asked him about those trims and he yelled and treated us like crap even had to go to another office and he left outside and didn’t enter to the office area until we left, that was in Las Vegas and salesman Timothy be aware and run from him or camping world, also extended warranty was over $7000 which is Half of what the trailer costed
Drove 500 miles to buy a TT at CW. Was almost there when the salesman told me the shower door was smashed and they lied about how it happened. When I arrived a crappy shower curtain was in its place. No discount , just the lie. They had me, they screwed me.
We just bought a nice Airstream from Camping World and it was all good. Yes they tried to add on $300 per month for the protection plans, I turned that down and put $5000 in a bank account and if anything goes wrong, I will fix or pay for it myself. It is not all doom and gloom, you just need to be careful.
Going in in two days to “finalize” the paperwork, but if they don’t take off the $2k “happy camper package” BS I didn’t notice was in the initial form with the estimated payments (my partner is doing the financing. I didn’t see this form until we got home) my dude and I will be leaving. We will be getting NO add ons. We’re getting the cheapest TT they sell. I don’t care about extended warranties when we’re going to be heavily modding the unit and voiding all those anyways. I don’t care about “paint protection” when we’re repainting it to our liking anyways. No “cleaning”, not “walk through”, NOTHING. The initial sales guy was super chill and nice overall (aside from sneaking on that BS camping package), so hopefully the finance guy won’t be too much of a hassle. We have no problem leaving if he is. I’ll try to remember to come back here and let y’all know how it went. 😂
Get cash in your hand or in your bank before you enter the RV yard. Haggle the price. Find your own insurance. Extended warranties,paint protection, service plans...it's all a con. If you ever buy from a RV yard...Your paying the premium price(Highest price around).
Sounds like a bad experience, but my experience was opposite they did not push any add-ons only asked for proof of insurance. They gave us one year free roadside assistance, but we are on a seasonal site it means nothing not renewing and also gave a three membership free which I don't use.
Remember all those warranties are almost worthless. There are hundreds of ways they can get out of paying or just keep pushing off a good repair until the warranty expires. Once sold they are going to work just as hard as not spending a penny on warranty claims. Start to finish it is all a scam.
Thats what im suffering 1 week old 2025 unite leaking in all the 4 directions ceiling gap everything wrong and the manager say if you come back i charge u x transpassing and got rid of me after 1 week purchuse 24999$$$
They tried to scam me by adding 3,000 on top of the original price with things like charging me extra for a walk through and delivery to their lot. I also ask them what the price would be if I paid cash for a used camper and the lady told me over the phone it would be 3,000 dollars more then the internet price because they get a kick back on the price if i finance it through their bank.
Yes, do NOT use their financing, pay cash or have your own bank. Get the best price with any wanted extras, do not accept the first price and don't tell them you will pay cash or have you own bank. Write a check for what you agreed upon and if they do not like it do not buy it. The advertised special,,, don't drive miles to find out it NEVER existed and if you can find a ma and pa shop that are normally more honest.
It stuff happens at all dealerships. I am their worst nightmare like you. Anytime they pull that shit I lower the price I will pay by a thousand bucks. Then come back day after day to destroy all of their attitudes.
Draper, UT has an RV that I'm interested in. The sales price says 27,999. There's a green link below that says unlock a lower price. I checked that out, and it's a discount for inhouse financing. So I left that link, cause I have my own financing agreement ready with a lender. I looked over the RV and it was perfect. The model was exclusive to camping world. So I when to discuss purchasing this trailer, and they tried to get me to use their financing. I told them no thanks. They said well this price only is available if you finance with us. It's 2,000 + more if you have your own financing. They also showed me a paper that has all these extra add ons. 3,000 to clean it, detail a brand new RV, and to do the wall around. Luckily, I've owned 3 RVs already and I'm very familiar with the ins and outs of how to maintain and use an RV. I told them I don't want this add on. Also tried to add on good sam, and protection, they were asking for 6,000 down on a 27,999 trailer and with all the ads ons the price (with my own financing) - the 6,000 down came to 32,000. I'm not kidding you guys. Total scam. False advertising. I did not sign anything and left, shortly after they called me. Wanted me to sign their paper to accept that price. I told Mike that it really feels shady to advertise it one way then mark it up if you have your own financing. He told me I was being shady. That's when I told him I was not doing business with him and left the conversation. I guess I looked dumb, but I'm not. Don't get scammed.
I purchased a Coleman Rubicon 1200 rk and they immediately hit me up with all those extras and I said no thanks and it was a good thing my bank financed me so they couldn't scam me
Yeah but here is the deal, i did the same thing you did and within 13 months i was paying out the ass for things that would have been covered on them add-ons, couple years later got a bigger RV had the add-ons put in and 15 months later I was using them in repairs, the cost of the repairs was more than the total add-on cost so I get what your saying but might want to think it threw before just pushing it aside..
Camping world screwed us over, in 2014 we bought a very slightly used 2014 Rockwood Mini Lite it had premium wheels and tires on it, then they switched the wheels to crappy steel rims I have pictures to prove it. Unfortunately it was way to late to do anything but I did post pictures and review on google about that, plus they really don’t know anything about camping and campers, I would venture a guess that most campers actually know more about camping and campers than anyone who works at camping world
I bought a brand new Coleman Lantern ( Latrine) and every time we took it out, something fell off or stopped working. I tried to work with them but their service is horrible. Too many bad stories to put on here. I'm done with them and will never buy anything from them again
I will never deal with these crooks. The sales rep Jerry was totally insulting. Told him if I buy I pay cash. He said I had to finance unit. I told him I would sell my current unit my self and he said I had to trade it in. Terrible company.
I have been royally screwed by CW. They tried to "make it right" after not accepting a sight unseen unit (sent pictures beside the SIDE SWIPED side in pics). One this this video doesn't mention is "holding rate". LOOK AT THEIR SCREEN ON THE TOP RIGHT. It was 3% higher and called them out. On a 130K rig, that's TON of compounded interest. It's legal, but unethical. I asked "is that the buy rate?" "Yes". "Then why I am seeing a rate that's 3% higher? "You're the second person to catch that.
What about couch's RV sales and service are they any good I don't know you know I heard that the man you know beat up his wife or something but I'm going to buy a camper does anybody trust him
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I always steer clear of Camping World for any RV purchase. They are the absolute worst of the worst.
Best way to NOT be scammed by CW is to never go to Camping World!
We can't imagine going back there, but, of course, it is impossible to say for sure.
Too late for me! I didn't know how bad CW was at the time!
Exactly
I am glad you were astute enough to call him out, and don't take this the wrong way because it isn't meant to belittle you. But that fact that you still bought from them after catching them trying to steal from you is why they remain in business. In life you should never do business with a company that tries to take advantage of you. No exceptions.
And thank you for your service to this great country! You deserved better from them. Shame on Camping World.
I promise, just about any RV or car dealership will add stuff to your deal, if you don't look carefully. At that point you can decline the deal, or get it back down to the advertised price.
We were also buying in mid-2022. Just about every dealership was out of RVs, especially the less expensive models.
Yes. I got ripped off about two years ago. The lady in the finance department tried to tell me that the only way I could get financing would be to get the "protection plans" and Good Sam. I had never bought a camper before, and yes they attached an additional $6000 to $7000. I wanted to purchase the trailer a few years before retirement. Yes, I made a mistake, but if my mistake can be a cautionary story for somebody else, then so be it.
Thank you for sharing. My daughter and I are about to purchase our first RV. We do not know much about this, but have been checking dealerships out. Thanks so much for this info.
You have my condolences, I used to work in a Massachusetts CW, but I wasn't running finance. People used to get screwed all of the time.
I also got caught. You can cancel the Good Sam portion and get a prorated refund
You are probably the MOST honest person on TH-cam!!! People are too arrogant to admit they made a mistake. On ever video on every topic, people NEVER admit to making mistakes. Bless you
Camping World is awful from top to bottom.
Just picked up my Jayco 183RB from Campers world, Kingston NY. I made it clear from the start that this was not my first TT and that all I wanted was the rig itself with none of the accoutrements. When I went to pick it up, it took all of an hour to do a quick walkthrough and sign the paperwork, easy peezy, great experience with absolutely no hassle or high pressure add on nonsense.
I'm heading to camping world on Saturday to look at RVs. Thanks for this. I'm gonna visit multiple dealers now.
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.” (Ps. 23:4) The valley of the shadow of death is a place of scarcity, danger, pain, and the unknown.
Good luck with CW
Glad you call them out car dealerships do the same and I’ve been taken as well as my husband. I’m getting ready to buy a used pre Covid 19 RV. I’ve been researching and studying so I don’t get scammed. Great info
This guy keeps telling you to be careful anx don't let camping world scam you. Better advice would be to avoid camping world completely. Why do business with a place that is this unscrupulous to begin with?
I hear what you are saying, but I am not just talking about Camping World when I say, "Review your purchase contract carefully."
Just about any dealer will try to add things to your purchase price.
We went to several other dealers in our area. It was impossible to find anything for less than $35K.
Because nearly all dealers even auto do the same shit
Yep.
camping world of Valencia ,CA gave me a price for a keystone Hideout...fast forward to finance and this "binder of fees" some they swore mandatory. over inflated tow hitches, Good Sam memberships, orientation fees, destination, clean up and god knows what else which I forgot. Mom and Pop Royal Coach RV in Bakersfield CA has seemed to be more about "transparency " SO FAR... stay tuned, still negotiating
Please do keep us informed. I would like to hear how you fair with a different dealer.
Regardless of where you buy, look carefully at the "purchase contract" before you sign it.
I just bought a new camper at CW Anniston, AL. It was a cluster fu.. Had to get the GM involved but ended up getting the price I wanted for the camper I wanted. I turned down all the add-ons they "offered", called and got insurance on it and left. I got a 2024 Rockwood Geo Pro G15TB for $21,276.06 out the door.
It's totally illegal for them to tell you the lender is requiring all those addon's !
I would just walked out without signing anything !
And report them to the State Attorney General, and local media TV stations.
I just bought a new toy hauler. The dealer (not camping world) tried to add $12000 in add-ons. I asked them why they did'nt have a bottle of lube ready while they tried to stick it to me. They were'nt to happy over that but I was laughing as I told them no to all 7 different add-ons.
I would have not continued dealing with them at all.
Interesting he still made purchase even after he caught them scamming him. Wtf?
Thanks for the tip bro. Pick up this Saturday from there. Definitely will be reading everything
I all most got my trailer from CW. I am so glad my neice knew about all scammers. She confronted these individuals why are you adding all these! She said Nope not today. We walk out CW. Ow! Thats crazy. Thank you for all these messages or text.
A lot of good information on your video. I work as a finance manager at a car dealer and we offer vehicle service contracts, paint, protection, etc. I’ve never once told the customer they are mandatory that they have to get it and the lender requires it. That’s actually illegal. only Only thing I’ll correct you on is gap insurance. I 100% recommend gap insurance if you’re financing more than 80% that means if you’re not putting at least 20% down after taxes.
Thank you so much for doing this video! I am in the market for a new rig currently and youtube is really helping. I've learned that RV dealers are not to be trusted in general!
Great advice. Sometimes you can't avoid CW if they have the camper you want. In my area, CW is the only dealer for a few brands.
Thanks so much for your video. I was watching CW video ads because I am 71 and seriously contemplating buying an RV to live in because I own my rural NC acre of land and already have septic tank, electric, and county water. I don't need a big home nor A big monthly mortgage payment. TMI, I know but I am old now.😉 CW is advertising an RV that would suit my needs. I would have been going to Greenville, NC, to "shop" and my camping/boating experienced male relative will be taking me so he can inspect whatever we decide upon. He will make sure I am not taken advantage of. Even so, after watching your video, I will not be doing business with CW because of their shady business practices and the complaints I am reading about their poor after-sale service practices. Thank you for your military service.
Thank you for the advice!! I’m planning on buying a toy hauler now I know !!!!!!
similar situation happened to me. I was told I was going to pay 14% interest unless I got the extended warranty products for $7,314 and they would knock the interest down to 9%. I was so excited about the deal I went for it. a month later I canceled the warranty plan and my interest stayed the same! I did get my money back but it took 10 months!
Better yet, get your financing set up before hand and drop that as well.
@@bindingcurve yup, I agree and thats what will happen next go around!
There is a difference between Camping world dealerships around the US. Add on's after the sale are standard practice in the automotive industry as well. The best way I found is before the sale is concluded is you meet with the finance manager and discuss what they offer along with getting the literature of coverage. From there you can either say yes or no to any adds. This is an important step with any purchase. I did purchase an RV from Campers world and using this method I was able to cherry pick the additional items I wanted. You are correct these add are a bonus for the finance manager which is their incentive to sale. Do not be duped into taking all but there are some protections which are nice for the peace of mind if you are so inclined to need. It is up to you the consumer to complete due diligence throughout your purchase. If you feel like it is a scam or a hard sell is best to walk to another dealership there are many out there.
Spot on. We did the same with a 2024 model, some items I wanted some I didn't. This case in California and I said no thanks and they took it off. Even after the fact they found a way to lower my initial monthly payment and not require a larger down payment. Their insurance actually beat my double liberty mutual insurance for all my cars so saved me money with that.
It sounds like your talking about a lot of different dealerships that includes any and all types sales peaple and places people don't pay attention to.. but good video bro. Keep people awoke
Don’t buy from camping world they don’t care after the sale
Thanks for the video! And the information!! Very useful!
The dealership "prep fee" is also a scam. Why pay for something they should have already done when the unit arrived at the dealership?
Watch Lehto's Law on RVs before purchasing an RV. Just so you know what you are getting and what your rights are (none). Your dealer is your only hope. Make sure the purchase agreement is what you want and are being told. Expect the you " 4:14 bought it, you own it treatment. " go to a dealer you can trust, if there us one
Not only do they try and do scam you out of thousands, but try to get warranty on the junk RV you bought is about impossible. Go to other good RV deals and absolutely stay away from Camping Word. I have never bought from them and never will. Many people are just not smart enough and that’s what they like. They are after raking the first time buyer and do not care about repeat business.
This business needs to be out of business !
Several years ago I did buy a portable power station from them in Florida.
When I had issues with it, they did help meand get replacement parts, but as far as buying a camper, no I would NOT do that.
Another Camping World competitor is Princess Craft in Texas.
They have 2 locations in Texas, Round Rock & Katy.
I was scammed for $500 .
I caught them trying to add the Texas Vit tax to my contract.
VIT is a dealer tax, not a consumer tax.
Apparently, any deposit you give them, is nonrefundable, even when you don't buy from them.😢
We looked at an RV, only because we knew exactly what we wanted, and that was the closest place (90 min) that had it. Some plan was propane, battery, and washing it, was over $1000. Ridiculous! So we went on down the road! It is kinda fun to see the finance people starting to add on with my husband. He puts them in their place. We are older, so they know they are not going to fall for as much, but they are scamming younger people for sure. Imagine what paint protection costs when financed over 20 years!!!
Pan pacific tried to do the same thing. I didn’t know they were scamming me until your video. I just kept saying no to all the protection plans cause it was making my payment going up. Wow thanks for info
I told them no add on too but they did it anyway and I had them put it in writing .
I don't know if I would call them "The Worse" much of what they do is accepted industry practices. (It is awful, but sadly common.)
I try to warn everyone to always look at the "Purchase Contract" very carefully, before you sign anything. They will automatically include all kinds of extras and "add-ons," to the deal. Many of these extras you might not want or need. Some of the charges can be negotiated away, if you try. Car dealers do this all the time. Their financing can be beat too. Car dealers will often try to get you to use their financing rather than you use your own Credit Union. (Who will always be the better rate.) RV dealers will do the same.
i had a great experience with camping world. i picked up my RV from them today...i knew all their add ons and talking points...i declined everything i didn't need.
Not to mention Camping World repair is terrible as well. I just paid Camping World in Silverdale, WA to evaluate issue with our coach(03 Win. U35). The 16' power awning would not retract and they said that I needed to purchase a new power awning($3200). I took coach to another CW in Tacoma because they offered reduction in price about $800, total was $2400 instead of $3200. I got a call from them stating that they replaced old awning with new one but awning still will not retract. I asked them why did they tell me it needed replacement but they were unsure since it was another dealer that misdiagnosed it. They got it working again and were supposed to look at wipers as well. They had it for a month but would not return phone calls and I spoke to service manager(James) who told me that he would call me within the hour with update, that was Thursday. We called on Monday informing them we were picking it up and having someone else look at it. When we picked up coach service manager(James) told us it was an electrical box that was problem with awning not awning as we were originally told. They also did not reinstall awing protector, I do not know what happened to it. Coach is now worse than it was when they looked at it. Avoid these guys like the plague
Thanks! I wondered because I walked into dealer about 2 yrs ago and they have contacted me several times saying they found the perfect one for me. Each time I tell them I have the perfect one for me. Usually in 2 weeks to a month another perfect one comes in. I did not feel right even talking to the the first time just had a feeling.
25,000 is not expensive at all for a camper but lets also take some other things into consideration. I am still working and I get 5 weeks of vacation per year, more than most people. I probably spend 20 days, gives or take a few, out of town on leisure where I need to get a hotel. If a hotel costs 100 to 150 per night, that 25,000 dollars would go 8 to 10 years worth of hotel stays. Now consider that you also need to clean, store maintain, repair, insure and pay yearly registration on the camper, plus, you need a rig powerful enough to pull it and spend a boat load on gas, a camper simply doesn't make sense. I get that the camper represents a personal piece of home that is with you where you go, and you might consider it home, but in practical terms, it makes no sense.
and 25% depreciation each year.
I like camping so I go camping either way. With camper I can simply go all year instead of seasonally here in Texas.
Great advice, thank you!
Our first purchase from Camping World. It was a 2023 Eddie Bauer 5th wheel. By the time it made it to our campsite, we have a spot on the lake, there were many issues found. It was said to us that the trailer was used as a demo and we bought it new. Many items were taken care of via the warranty. Thing was we had to pay for the Tech to come out and make repairs. We were told it was their policy. Never again.
Stopped in Camping world in Reno. Looked around said the trailer I was looking for was coming soon. Get an email days later asking me what was going on and if I was going to buy the trailer or not. I emailed him back reminding him of our last conversation and not to call me again. Found what I was looking for at 10,000 less and I hadn't even talked with the finance person. That included the extras ( solar panel, slide topper installed) and weight distribution hitch. I doubt the trailer I was looking for even came.
Marcus Lemonis strikes again! On TV he comes across as a truthful, honest entrepreneur. What a laugh, his company is very shady.
He is a crook A MEN
We really got played by Camping World in Conway NH with no add-on features. RV was on sale and we agreed for the price $25,500 deposit $1000. A few days later we went to pick up the RV deposit another $3000. The finance guy said the loan would not be approve unless we buy a 5 year warranty. I told my wife that I didn’t want it but because she wanted so bad I let her make the decision. So we end up buying the RV for a lot more than I wanted to pay. Please please please don’t get scam because we did. And the warranty we bought into we probably not going to use it. Another $3000 down the toilet. This video is very similar to our story
you can got a prorated refund if you cancel the plan. ck the rv wingman for method to cancel and forms needed
Camping world is a CRIMINAL Scammer organization
I have bought 3 from camping world in Bartow Florida never got ripped off
You both knew they were conmen and you both gave up your money 😂😂
C W shut the doors in Jordan, MN! That was the best thing that happened so they couldn’t scam more people!
I have a similar problem same thing happened to me .Had them take all insurance plus good Sam's off when I read the final paper work but when I contacted the bank they charged me 7,000 more then what we agreed on. I contacted camping worlds financing and was told they had canceled and the money would be refunded. I call good Sam's insurance and was told it is not canceled. I was told I would not be able to cancel it camping world will have too. I called camping world finance and was told it was canceled. But no money has been received to my bank lone. I don't know what if anything I can do next😢😢
Be careful paying their 1,600 prep fee that includes filling the propane tanks. They only filled 1 tank for me and the other tank was out of propane in minutes. Also don't trust them to ensure all is in working order. Do your own checking or hire an expert. I had a lot of things that did not work that were supposedly checked. over.
Camping world is made up of several departments that do not communicate with each other. Sales department will tell you that the warranty department will handle any problems. The warranty department will say that the sales department had no right to tell you what they will handle or to speak for them. Heard this from a guy from work who sued and finally got their camper fixed after two years of fighting with them. Could not use the camper in all that time but had to pay the monthly note. He got rid of his camper and said he doesn’t trust the industry.
Did they require you to wash it, tighten the bolts, etc..? They wanted to charge us an extra 2k to make the new trailer “road ready” and said that I couldn’t buy the trailer unless I paid an extra 2k.
Yea they always try pulling that crap. It doesn’t make sense to me either. The trailer should already be road ready lol.
If it wasn't road worthy how did they get is there?????
@@SSGTMarineE6 Good point.
Didn’t by my RV at camping world. Bought a used RV that was 3 years old but lightly used. The salesman and I finally settled on a price. Went into the finance office, the FO said “how much do you want your payments to be” or something like that. Doc fee was $75. Price of RV + Doc fee, I started stroking that check. FO was a bit surprised.
I often go there and show great interest in many RVs and take up alot of their time, i drag it on and on with the pen in my hand and never sign it.
It happened to me. Awhile later I found out that I could cancel part of it. The paint protection was only transferrable. WATCH OUT .
Caveat Emptor. I would recommend anyone buying a new or used RV hire a 3rd party inspector. Pay close attention to to mechanical systems and their warranties. Make them demonstrate each one, hydraulics, furnace, AC, hot water. Check ALL the caulking, especially the roof! We've already spent 5k fixing all these crappy components on a new 100k trailer in the first 2 years. Warranties are barely worth the paper they're written on.
Yes, but where does one find a qualified, independent, non-partial rv inspector, who will take the time to go to a dealership and go over the vehicle? What would that cost?
@@funinourrv honestly any RV repairman. They are well aware of the most common problems. We're learning the hard way even with a brand new $100k unit. Quality is just lip service anymore.
I would agree that doing so would be a very good idea on a $100K rig, probably worth the price....but...
I am mostly talking about units that cost $15-25 K. (Used even less.)
What would such an inspection cost?
I found one place that charged (min) $299 for a "pre-purchase inspection" with $3.50 per mile. So I guess you could count on $400+. I can see that as reasonable for what it could save you.
@@funinourrv that would be a reasonable cost. AC units, furnace, HW heaters are big ticket items along with water damage. We've already spent 5k just making everything work as it should.
Think of it like doing a home inspection, you want to know before pulling the trigger.
It is easy to imagine the replacement of the water heater, on the smallest RV, costing well over $1000 to have replaced.
How do you like your Coleman? We are looking at one. It’s between that and a Springdale same floor plan same price.
We bought a new 2022 toyota highlander from lassin Toyota in Albany oregon. They did this. We got a extra 7k charge but the wife didn't realize it and now when we went to trade it in to get a towing rig. We were told we are over 7k what they would offer for the truck. So we are screwed and can't trade it in till we pay the extra off.
What were the terms of your financing how much down ,per month, how long,interest rate.?And how much to insure the trailer.
It's like when you purchase a car. The F&I person will offer you all the add-ons. If the F&I person does not offer you the items and you have a claim you can sue the dealership for don't offering it to you.
😂😂😂😂
So what did you purchase to protect your camper since it only comes with a year warranty except for the roof?
Just bought a Coleman lantern 17r cash $13750 and I almost had to beg to buy it non financed when finally accepted they wanted to charge me for the walk through and battery propane tank $2200 , went to pickup the trailer and I had to check it myself then I told the salesman that when couple trims missing and my wife asked him about those trims and he yelled and treated us like crap even had to go to another office and he left outside and didn’t enter to the office area until we left, that was in Las Vegas and salesman Timothy be aware and run from him or camping world, also extended warranty was over $7000 which is Half of what the trailer costed
I would have walked out. If the buying experience is like this just think how the follow up service department will be in the future.
Yes, I was charged $25 for checking my tire pressure! Tire store will do it free.
You can buy a pressure gauge for two bucks that you can use for decades.
Drove 500 miles to buy a TT at CW. Was almost there when the salesman told me the shower door was smashed and they lied about how it happened. When I arrived a crappy shower curtain was in its place. No discount , just the lie. They had me, they screwed me.
Hey! Where's your guitar??
They do the same thing when you buy a car I never buy those things.
Great video sir
We just bought a nice Airstream from Camping World and it was all good. Yes they tried to add on $300 per month for the protection plans, I turned that down and put $5000 in a bank account and if anything goes wrong, I will fix or pay for it myself. It is not all doom and gloom, you just need to be careful.
'IF you try to sell me any extra shit, Im out of here"...... this works..
Going in in two days to “finalize” the paperwork, but if they don’t take off the $2k “happy camper package” BS I didn’t notice was in the initial form with the estimated payments (my partner is doing the financing. I didn’t see this form until we got home) my dude and I will be leaving. We will be getting NO add ons. We’re getting the cheapest TT they sell. I don’t care about extended warranties when we’re going to be heavily modding the unit and voiding all those anyways. I don’t care about “paint protection” when we’re repainting it to our liking anyways. No “cleaning”, not “walk through”, NOTHING. The initial sales guy was super chill and nice overall (aside from sneaking on that BS camping package), so hopefully the finance guy won’t be too much of a hassle. We have no problem leaving if he is.
I’ll try to remember to come back here and let y’all know how it went. 😂
I used to go and walk around their lot. I would take a dump in a camper. That's how I got even.
That’s a fantastic plan, lol
Get cash in your hand or in your bank before you enter the RV yard. Haggle the price. Find your own insurance. Extended warranties,paint protection, service plans...it's all a con.
If you ever buy from a RV yard...Your paying the premium price(Highest price around).
Sounds like a bad experience, but my experience was opposite they did not push any add-ons only asked for proof of insurance. They gave us one year free roadside assistance, but we are on a seasonal site it means nothing not renewing and also gave a three membership free which I don't use.
Are all camping worlds the same? Are there any decent ones out there around the country?
Remember all those warranties are almost worthless. There are hundreds of ways they can get out of paying or just keep pushing off a good repair until the warranty expires. Once sold they are going to work just as hard as not spending a penny on warranty claims. Start to finish it is all a scam.
I watched another video of a lady who lost her RV because of extra fees and balloon payment at the end, was not disclosed, her rig was around 120,000.
If they(CW) has such a questional rep
How do they stay in business?
Thats what im suffering 1 week old 2025 unite leaking in all the 4 directions ceiling gap everything wrong and the manager say if you come back i charge u x transpassing and got rid of me after 1 week purchuse 24999$$$
They tried to scam me by adding 3,000 on top of the original price with things like charging me extra for a walk through and delivery to their lot. I also ask them what the price would be if I paid cash for a used camper and the lady told me over the phone it would be 3,000 dollars more then the internet price because they get a kick back on the price if i finance it through their bank.
Yes, do NOT use their financing, pay cash or have your own bank. Get the best price with any wanted extras, do not accept the first price and don't tell them you will pay cash or have you own bank. Write a check for what you agreed upon and if they do not like it do not buy it. The advertised special,,, don't drive miles to find out it NEVER existed and if you can find a ma and pa shop that are normally more honest.
mike went to the back room to get oxygen and a defibrillator
It stuff happens at all dealerships. I am their worst nightmare like you. Anytime they pull that shit I lower the price I will pay by a thousand bucks. Then come back day after day to destroy all of their attitudes.
Can the add on’ be removed?
Trucoat? You don't get that you get oxidization. It's a heck of a deal.
Yeah, they charged me to clean the trailer too! When I got it it was filthy!
Draper, UT has an RV that I'm interested in. The sales price says 27,999. There's a green link below that says unlock a lower price. I checked that out, and it's a discount for inhouse financing.
So I left that link, cause I have my own financing agreement ready with a lender. I looked over the RV and it was perfect. The model was exclusive to camping world.
So I when to discuss purchasing this trailer, and they tried to get me to use their financing. I told them no thanks. They said well this price only is available if you finance with us. It's 2,000 + more if you have your own financing. They also showed me a paper that has all these extra add ons. 3,000 to clean it, detail a brand new RV, and to do the wall around. Luckily, I've owned 3 RVs already and I'm very familiar with the ins and outs of how to maintain and use an RV. I told them I don't want this add on. Also tried to add on good sam, and protection, they were asking for 6,000 down on a 27,999 trailer and with all the ads ons the price (with my own financing) - the 6,000 down came to 32,000. I'm not kidding you guys. Total scam.
False advertising.
I did not sign anything and left, shortly after they called me. Wanted me to sign their paper to accept that price.
I told Mike that it really feels shady to advertise it one way then mark it up if you have your own financing.
He told me I was being shady.
That's when I told him I was not doing business with him and left the conversation.
I guess I looked dumb, but I'm not. Don't get scammed.
Can you sue them for unethical buisness practices?
I had a local independent dealer try to add all those add-ons on a 13,000$ tt
I purchased a Coleman Rubicon 1200 rk and they immediately hit me up with all those extras and I said no thanks and it was a good thing my bank financed me so they couldn't scam me
Yeah but here is the deal, i did the same thing you did and within 13 months i was paying out the ass for things that would have been covered on them add-ons, couple years later got a bigger RV had the add-ons put in and 15 months later I was using them in repairs, the cost of the repairs was more than the total add-on cost so I get what your saying but might want to think it threw before just pushing it aside..
Yes. Camping world has been known for this kind of behavior for years. I can't believe they are still in business. They do not deserve your money.
Camping world screwed us over, in 2014 we bought a very slightly used 2014 Rockwood Mini Lite it had premium wheels and tires on it, then they switched the wheels to crappy steel rims I have pictures to prove it. Unfortunately it was way to late to do anything but I did post pictures and review on google about that, plus they really don’t know anything about camping and campers, I would venture a guess that most campers actually know more about camping and campers than anyone who works at camping world
I bought a brand new Coleman Lantern ( Latrine) and every time we took it out, something fell off or stopped working. I tried to work with them but their service is horrible. Too many bad stories to put on here. I'm done with them and will never buy anything from them again
Dude thanks for this video I was about to make a huge mistake
I will never deal with these crooks. The sales rep Jerry was totally insulting. Told him if I buy I pay cash. He said I had to finance unit. I told him I would sell my current unit my self and he said I had to trade it in. Terrible company.
I have been royally screwed by CW. They tried to "make it right" after not accepting a sight unseen unit (sent pictures beside the SIDE SWIPED side in pics). One this this video doesn't mention is "holding rate". LOOK AT THEIR SCREEN ON THE TOP RIGHT. It was 3% higher and called them out. On a 130K rig, that's TON of compounded interest. It's legal, but unethical. I asked "is that the buy rate?" "Yes". "Then why I am seeing a rate that's 3% higher? "You're the second person to catch that.
I have literally heard nothing but bad things from Camping World.
It’s actually illegal to tell customers that add ins are required to secure financing.
They scammed me. I was so mad afterwards, when I realized what had happened. It was my first rv I had purchased last year.
What about couch's RV sales and service are they any good I don't know you know I heard that the man you know beat up his wife or something but I'm going to buy a camper does anybody trust him
From my experiences, all you told is true.They did it to us too.
Camping World is not the only one doing this. One more thing to avoid. Never give a dealer money to hold, secure or obligate a rv.
Why did you buy from them after they tried to defraud you?
It’s a shame that Is become such a problem along with their service dept getting so many complaints.
Camping world of Orlando ?
Car dealership Finance people will try the same thing.
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