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OUTPUT: Damn, he's good.
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Reminds me of a tweet i saw where someone was talking about how marvel vs capcom infinite was pretty well balanced for a game that only had like 2 months of support, and the first response was someone posting the spiderman reality stone infinite flowchart. Even though that infinite got patched out almost immediately
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Yuuuuup
The game was really imbalanced, though. Dante got 2 pages of nerfs and is still currently the best character in the game, and the top characters' tool kits are just so much better than the bottom to the point of invalidating them. Which is expected of a Marvel game. Game's still fun.
@@imaslusho I feel like you're completely misunderstanding what the Marvel community means when they say a game is "pretty well balanced for a game with only a few months of support."
Fun fact, "pretty well balanced for a Marvel game with only a few months of support" is NOT the same as "not imbalanced at all"
@@imaslusho I would say after all the patches, it's in a pretty solid state. You can make most if not all of your teams work if you want
'I didn't realise talking about SF4 was gonna make so many people so angry' - really? You thought the SF community was going to be playing honourable, fact-based footsies in your comment section?
i felt free to screenshot this
@@yourbellboy yeah this comment goes so hard
Top tier comment
What is with Sajam comments recently and their fucking god tier sentences? First knowledge checking entire continents, then honourable, fact-based footsies.
@@deaddreamdance Recently?
Didn't you know all Sajam comment sections have god tier sentences?
Always had them. 👩🚀🔫👩🚀
The more things change the more they stay the same. There's a subset of people who still think Sol is so broken he's oppressing the rest of the cast. People get a really early impression of a game or patch or idea and that's just all they know because they don't necessarily want to know more. They got enough info on the topic and now they're moving on to greener pastures.
This is Street Fighter V to a T. That game is in a much different place now than it was when it released and people still say things about the original version of the game to invalidate people who like it in it's current state
Dev's fear patch notes more then us as they know we'll feel sad but it keeps you on you're toes which is good. For like everything i want to say there's a Core-A-Gaming video that can say it exactly and it's so great.
you only get one chance to make a first impression
@@BBGunRenegade well tbh that’s capcoms fault and no one is obligated to give a payed product a second chance. They gave money and were disappointed.
In an interview around 2011, filipino champ was asked why he stopped playing sf4. He half-jokingly said that his character, dhalsim, got kicked out of the game because the twins were terrorizing the meta. It's interesting because a lot of people these days don't remember that he was a top dhalsim player, famous for having a very impressive win record on daigo. And I remember this quote because it really stuck to me how sf4 just was a different game at that point, cause not only was everyone playing the 2 new offensive characters, but everyone's idea on how the game was supposed to be played now changed too. In other words, people elevated characters due to a different mentality based on offensive play. I could be wrong, but it was around this time that knuckledu was becoming real famous for his offensive guile, and smug was kinda already playing sf5 with his dudley.
Once that Elena got in the game, people realized that she was a character that could really stand up to the offensive style that the game had developed. This was around the same time when infiltration had pretty much dropped Akuma, and focused more on his famous hit and run style decapre, and his chunli.
The point I'm trying to make is that Elena was an example of the (tournament) meta developing, becoming a pocket answer to the insane offense that existed. Had the game developed further, we would have seen more counters to elena.
It's ridiculous to bring her as an example of the state of sf4's last year when in reality it was more about the evolution of the entire game up until that point.
sweet comment :o
This was a really interesting to read.
This is exactly what happens whenever I see people talk about Xrd lol, It's always "YRC bad, Johnny broken, E-word ruined the game XD" and then when you ask them what's bad the never actually mention the strongest parts of the character, they always go for the unblockables that they probably don't even know got nerfed
@@SolidFake the difference between what OP said and what you said I think is usually that people who shit on Xrd never really played the game and the people who say the game was flawless are usually xrd players who like to pretend their game was objectively better and not just what they prefer
put some respect on Elphelts name
@@keysmash_roa Pretty much, there aren’t nearly as many people pretending to play Xrd for street cred to say it’s good than there are people pretending to play Xrd for street cred to say it’s bad, usually cuz they’re upset Xrd players say like “Strive bad lol”
People who pretend to play Xrd and complain: Game broke because Elphelt and Johnny unlockables
People who actually played it: F*** tech buttons.
@@Chaoskae I don’t mind Elphelt but everyone who talks about her treats her like she’s worse than +r top tiers because they heard Kizzie and LK making jokes about her, basically
Damn, the description is good
This hits more than the fgc on the head, political discussions also suffer from regurgitated talking points that you don't have to look particularly deep to find verbatim word for word from insert news outlet/content creator. People parrot the talking points but don't know how to defend or argue in favor of their stance so they frantically splurge all of them until something sticks and gets them updoots. It's like spamming tiger shots, you look EVO ready until you fight someone who can navigate your shit and you get undressed
Literally those that engage in console wars are this too it's so dumb plus so many trying to be a content creator that don't hold back their bias for the plastic they like fall flat on their face with their baseless "points" and run from discussion from mostly PC people like myself while saying their "open to discussion" every time.
"You've never debated someone like me"
i'm surprised internet psychology hasn't become a major study at this point. it seems like such a promising field to study.
what this video goes over is just the harmless stuff that people do, but an extremely accurate observation.
@@bahskintimulholde6191 well an uninformed population is the best population for the service providers
I found funny that you used the word Harmless. I actually think is mad dangerous.
@@bahskintimulholde6191 "Mass Formation Psychosis" is not a recognized term in the field of psychology or by any of its experts. Spread your misinformation elsewhere.
@@bahskintimulholde6191 The term of Mass Formation Psychosis proposed by Dr Robert Malone was first introduced in January 2022. People have been studying group behaviour, and group behaviour on the internet well before 2022.
I'm not sure if you were trying to imply that the study of interactions on the internet in general is being supressed, but if so your claims don't provide evidence for that.
I'll list a few things I believe would indicate a supression of social psychology.
- Lacking PhD courses
- Lacking respected journals
- Lacking citations in other Psychology Papers
Mass Psychosis is already a studied topic, with a wealth of research available. Social Psychology is a well respected field of study. And so on. Which suggests there's no anti-social-psychology conspiracy.
Of course I could just be misunderstanding you.
@@bahskintimulholde6191 well relatively harmless. This particular example just hinders your growth in intelligence. Going to generic default answers/statements because you have nothing of merit/substance to say. Odds are if one is like this in message boards and what not, they're probably like this in IRL conversations as this is one of the rare examples where your online persona and who you are in front of others might actually match up.
It's the other stuff that people do that seems more harmful. The hive mind mentality stuff like seeking echo chambers because differing opinions is too much for them to handle or the weird dedication to their personas such as the white knights and internet police who do nothing but hunt "trolls" ultimately becoming trolls themselves, etc.
I think people in this day and age should expect less from Reddit in general
Yeah, people shit on Twitter, but the voting system and reddit's culture of big-brained logic-lords makes it immensely worse imo. Lots of echo chambers and Dunning-Kruger.
It's kinda funny cause the Dark Souls community had a similar problem. "Git gud" started as an ironic joke because the game wasn't well documented and a lot of the mechanics and interactions were cryptic especially without a wiki. Saying "git gud" didn't actually have anything to do with player skill. But eventually DS got more popular in part to rage videos and the meaning was lost as more new players gravitated towards this perception and they started using "git gud" completely unironically
I would like to know more about this. How can I?
@@noboty4168 Git gud at searching for relevant information on the internet. 😎
This is also FROM Software's fault. The marketing team decided to go with the "game hard" shit, even going so far as naming the PC port "Prepare to Die Edition", and now there's people who are legitimately drawn away because of it.
@@skyleite3016 Yeah that was a pretty big misstep IMO, I almost wonder if that wasn't the fault of localization teams responding to the trending discussion around DS when it came out. Miyazaki has stated in the past he never intended to make the games particularly difficult.
One of the first tournament sets I ever watched was Omito vs Nage in GGXrd.
After learning more about fighting games and getting into the genre and coming back to it. Holy shit it was sick
The way the discourse around SFIV has been distilled down is basically how everything worth talking about in the past gets distilled down to single talking points that are almost entirely bullshit. It makes you start suspecting that the way people talk about most things that were around before you were born is also just bullshit, including actual historical events. The farther back in time it is, the more likely the most often repeated talking points are complete bullshit because it gets exponentially harder to just look up the relevant info.
@@SolidFake More like Conquest's First Rule: Everyone is Conservative about what he or she knows best.
Thought terminating cliché is the thing you're thinking of, as I'm sure has been posted 300 times but I gotta get mine in.
i did a web-search to learn what that was, so your reference is unique enough (although the 'syndrome' and the cliche do have slightly different purposes)
good reference! 👍
I've noticed this happen with Smash 4 a lot too. Keyword detected, output "Bayonetta was the most broken character ever made. She was so broken that she killed Smash 4 faster than Meta Knight killed Brawl" Nobody remembers the very well-loved sets that had Bayonetta or the top 8s that didn't have much Bayonetta or the fact that the major directly before Ultimate got announced (Frostbite) was the most-attended solo Smash 4 event in the game's history.
A character can be busted and still not kill the game they're in.
Especially for a game with a competitive playerbase as passionate as Smash's.
You could just reply to a comment instead of editing your original post you know. Oh well.
This is pretty much presentday internet memeing. People parrot what they hear repeatedly without understanding the context of the meme to the point that the original context is lost to 'its a funny thing to repeat' to get some internet clout
I thought I distinctly remember the first big tourney after Leroy was in, after it finished everyone was complaining on how broken Leroy was and how top 8 had like 7 Leroy's.
Evo Japan, yeah, only non-Leroy was a Julia player.
Yep.
He was so busted people who had literally never touched him before the day of the tournament were placing with him. Online he was smoking people left, right and center because even if you knew what he could do and was doing so many characters just didn't have an answer for it, or Leroy could counter their answer more easily than they could use their answer. It was so dumb.
That's 100% true. Leroy won too. Sajam's the one rewriting history here.
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@@Jin-lp5lt didn’t he say people wouldn’t know they nerfed Leroy after? And he said Leroy didn’t ruin the tournament which is an opinion on whether or not the tournament was worth watching. I think it was a pretty bad tournament personally but it can be fair to challenge the idea that it wasn’t worth watching
reddit moment
wholesome 100?
*Looks at the description*
Damn, he's good.
Sajam: They've change V-Triggers, its not like that.
Watches Brian_F: Hit confirm into V-trigger 80% coast to coast kill combo with Balrog.
'Yup, V-Triggers have really changed.
Yea you really haven't been watching SFV lately...
It's ORO VT2 combos now lmaooooo
I wasn't exposed to a lot of the SF4 negativity, since I just watched tournament footage on TH-cam and I guess I didn't bother reading comments as much back then.
It's weird to me that people harp on about Elena so much. As a spectator, I remember the end of USFIV being pretty great as far as character diversity goes.
Evo 2015's top 8 competitors all had different mains, with 12 different characters played in total. GamerBee and Momochi each played Elena in one matchup.
Capcom Cup 2015 had 20ish characters represented with only 3 of the 32 competitors playing Elena and none of them maining her.
I honestly can't even recall any top player maining Elena aside from Kindevu.
the only time I remember Elena being a drag as far as watching tournaments go was after SF5 came out and events would run USF4 side-tournaments where an out-of-practice old pro like Justin Wong would just mop up with Elena. Though these USF4 tournaments often also had issues with getting players at all, the whole "USF4 revival" push didn't last very long.
bender would definitely use reddit
There was an episode where we saw what he'd do online. I think his first action was to pretend to be a woman to get money from people.
Really shitting on us Minesweeper mains here Sajam.. t_t
Thanks for the ad, Stephen.
video description is too accurate 💀
Say anything positive about Mortal Kombat
Top comment: something something animations
I’m guilty of this haha
Nah usually it is block button without understand how MK would not work on a fundamental level without it and it is not because of cross up teleport but the movement, footsie and offense tied to it.
I think most people with most things enjoy reaching a point where they feel they've learned "enough" and then sit comfortably in their assumptions forever instead of investigating those opinions further. And assumptions can be used to start some great conversations. It just sucks when people remain convinced that their assumptions are always and infallibly correct.
Damn, he's good
after years of playing super, 2 month before sfv i finally bought a big ass 1 billion money arcade stick and ultra and i had so much fun playing. when sfv came out it felt to me like a downgrade D:
Damn he's good
Imagine going on FGC reddits 💀
For those of us 4+ hours away from any sort of local scene, r/Fighters was legit my only source of Fighting Game Discussion for the longest time. It caused me to hate the FGC for a while
Then I saw a post linking to someone on Twitter about how terrible the subreddit is and I breathed a sigh of relief knowing that there was more out there
I like the memes
Its the exact same thing with politics. I enjoyed watching people try to anwser follow questions. Like a popular one was "I really like Trumps tax policies" I would say "what do you like about them." Most people couldnt even answer mildly.
speaking of sf
have you seen the update trailer?
that cell shading makes the game look so good, i almost feel like the game should have released looking like that
Always nice to see a get
This always annoys the hell out of me, someone mentions +R? "hope you like zappa and testament xD". Blazblue? "lol ribcage game is unplayable". And so on and so on for every game, it feels like an extension of that good old dunning-kruger effect (although it's such a cliche to bring that up at this point that I'm probably playing into it by doing so...)
smash fits this so well too, any time you talk about how smash 4 on paper has more expressive movement than ultimate, there’s always like 5 people making bayo jokes that all have hundreds of upvotes or likes. pretty annoying. even relating to your last video on this topic i think smash has some of the most degenerate stuff to sift through to get to an actual discussion out of any competitive game i’ve ever played
Sajam being strapped to the jump off would be hysterical
Speaking of revisiting old sets, I would love to see a run back on the Kemonomichi Daigo Tokido FT10 it was the video that got me into your content and would be a great send off to SFV
I’m wanting to see what Sajam thinks of testament. Looks like my favorite new character possibly
I saw the post that you won't be commentating the Arc Revo finals event. Hope it all works out. Stay safe : )
HIYA
-Melee Fox mains
*gamecube control stick noises*
We went from all the uploads being Sajam talking about rollback to all the uploads being Sajam talking about how some noob's comment online upset him and why they're wrong
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I got heated talking with my mother over...Godzilla vs King Kong, the original. Long story short, I misremembered, and she was right. I really can't remember what it was over exactly, I just know I was wrong.
Yes, people copying each other so they don't have to think for themselves is bad. On the other hand devaluing someone's opinion because you've heard it before is absurd. Just think for yourself and let other people feel how they feel.
I like minesweeper
It's most likely more accurate to say that people didn't like how Elena often won matches rather than she "ruined the game" but that's a bit too much nuance to make the ol' exaggerated point and wouldn't make a good "reddit comment" response
The Jump about to get some real Pepe Silvia energy
dude.... I was trying to find your thumbnail for like 20 minutes until I realised you must have made it yourself
😂😂
Pro players aside, did the average sf4 enjoyer really dislike the tournaments at the tail end of the game? I remember being constantly hyped because some sick stuff was happening every set.
i loved SFIV but didn't watch any tournaments kinda glad i didn't but with finding Core-A-Gaming to crowbcat's god like videos then many commentators i thought i missed out.
Mostly the True Life: being a pro gamer i saw in the 2000's blew my mind.
That's a good ass thumbnail.
I was such a Misse fan back then. So happy he had a good run instead of Haintani being the only Makoto of that game forever.
I don't remember people complaining about Ultra SFIV at all. Pretty much everybody thought it was dope (despite Elena healing bullshit).
Yun really grinded my gears, especially as a Claw player
Its amazing how popular sfiv is and yet nobody plays it.
Yep back when everyone went SFV, SFIV was better I didn't see the masses signing up for the tournaments people were still hosting years after.
It’ll be interesting to see what people say about 5 after 6 comes
imagine browsing the internet
A lot of the 'Ultra' bad was because the first patch was trash. C. Viper famously couldn't even combo into her specials because Elena's hurt boxes were so trash.
They released an update that fixed like Elena's hurtboxes. The main complaint in Ultra was largely just Elena invalidating so many characters near the end. Even then Yun / Seth were considered pretty good matchups vs here. Ultra probably only had 1 or 2 characters without any bad matchups.
I always wanted USF4 to be revived and I don't plan to admit that's because I never owned a PS4.....
Same thing with umvc3 and vergil.
I am disappointed that top comment for this video isn't a Brian_F/Jiyuna joke.
As an Elena main from 3rd Strike, I love all the Salt my girl gives to players 😍☺
I got into fighting games at the very end of SF4's lifecycle (SFV was already announced), and the only Elena-related thing I remember is this really boring set between an Elena player and I think Infiltration, and they'd just walk back and forth, and the set closing round was won with a timeout
This made me dislike the character a lot for some reason
Haha if you're talking about gamerbee vs infiltration from Evo that year, that might be my favorite set in any game ever. Different strokes I guess
So is this about people speaking confidently about a game they no longer play or watch tourneys for? I don't know, man. It's more like listing the reason they lost interest.
Wait what. Leroy did smoke everyone at the tournament. He was stupid in that patch.
when i see a reddit top comment on facebook i reply with the pic of fortnite keanu saying "your reddit gold, sir"
Damn sir, what's your hair conditioner
can't wait for all the hilarious people that spam the same comment fishing for likes :]
u got me
u got me
I certainly was having a lot more fun when USFIV was the game of choice as opposed to SFV. I mean, not just the game- but the community too. Tournaments seemed more fun. Maybe it was because it was more grass roots. Perhaps it was more organic.
And yes, I haven't played much recently- not going to lie. I can see that SFV has A LOT to offer in terms of content now- but I'm just not drawn to the game.
Also called the TH-cam comments section syndrome
the minesweeper community atpCap
So basically Aris is a living top reddit comment?
I feel like I'm the only one who enjoyed players playing Elena.
Decrappy
Top Reddit comments in life. So meta😪 touches me
haters gonna hate
can you go back and analyze more sf4 :)
Ahhhhlena
Here's a reddit tier comment: Reddit sucks lmao
Hey, check this out, I don't have anything sensible to say but I want to engage, so I'm just gonna drop a non sequitur. Potato.
We wouldn't got were we are without change, i get it i miss SFIV the Mechanic focus that paired well with SFIV then all the changes SFV brought mostly the lack of things SFV had day 1.
So many think they know more then harada, all Tekken 7 discussions or for all fighting games spiral into the same talk of missing the old days, dislike the 2D things in a 3D game (i like them) tons miss things cut out that in modern times put on season passes mostly characters or all games having season passes now. Times change and being a game dev is hard harada, murray and many have said this watch a GDC for insight.
*Capcom did remasters before everyone else kinda* with additional content in past games way back when that would have been DLC now. Sadly since many just want nostalgia bait remakes now.
The most predictable community on the planet is the Halo community. They will reject reality completely just to talk about how something was better back in the day and it is absolutely mindblowing to me