@@Richard_is_cool The thing is: Indo-Europeans were Asians, bc their ancestors inhabited part of Asia (some *still* do). Modern Europeans are ⅓ African and ⅔ Asian - by ancestry. However, the Indo-Europeans aren't the only ancestors of modern Europeans. Before that the early farmer came from the middle east to Europe (via Anatolia, modern day "Turkey") and colonized hunter and gatherers. Which were originally also from the middle east, reached Europe via West Asia or Caucasus. From the middle east they trace back they roots back to east africa. So Europeans are the "extra-light skins" of the human race. Bc certain Africans and Asians have fair skin alleles too, this means they can be fair skinned too. Fair skin is not a "pure european thing". It's just a fact that certain fair skin alleles are typical for Asians and certain are typical among Europeans. I really don't know what kind of moron thought it would be a "good" idea to come up with such a BS term like "cultural appropriation". And even more stupid to adopt this idiotic term.
"Paah vwullid Teybha, Vaar gurglor nayah?! What do you seek, why are you here!" Waar nooren iddhah maryuh ghat gai-gharaste? How can a mortal man "come to life" after he has already become old?"
David's teacher, who appears in the movie in the form of a hologram, was a real expert in this matter - Dr. Anil Biltu from the London SOAS language center. He agreed to translate the phrase android. David says the following: " / ida hman ə m a ɪ kja nam ṛ tuh zd ɛ: taha / … / gh ʷ ɪ vah-pjorn - ɪ ttham sas da: t ṛ kredah /". Which means, “This person is here because he doesn't want to die. He believes you can extend his life. ”
I used to think it was ridiculous some 200+ IQ alien chimped on the humans but the Indo European dialogue adds so much context. Plus, the engineers whole society is about rebirth and death.
I find the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European language very interesting. But everytime I listen to it, it sounds like hell. This one sounds even deeper than hell. Idk what that even could be, urban hell?!
I wish we got a real part 2 of this instead of Covenant. This was a masterpiece of a movie and one of the most believable sci fi ancient alien films. I love how they look like Greek Gods. I would love to see more of them. They are among my favorite alien races and culture of any sci fi universe
No such thing as Greek Gods. The Gods were actually Illyrian/ Pelasgians, you can read about the Illyrians and Pelasgians. Greece didn't exist. It was all the Illyrian Peninsula. Illyrians translate to as the "The Star People". Pelasgians are the "Sea People".
@@angeloschanneL851 I think even before that because they speak protoindoeuropean. And there actually was a protoindoeuropean culture. It was very similar to Spartan culture mixed with Germanic culture from my understanding. They were a nomadic people but they trained their young in survival and war and when they were old enough they were sent on their own to survive and they had the choice to come back or raid other tribes and start their own or join other ones. But regardless they were sent on raids and were trained from childhood.
You have the right idea David is basically a Nazi in all but two respects: a) having a Hebrew name and b) being a far better mad scientist than the utter hack Josef Mengele (the Japanese counterpart, Shiro Ishii, who got let clean off the hook for providing quality data from hideous medical experiments to the US, is certainly a much more fitting comparison)
I did not understand a single word (either English or PIE). It looks tдшлу here was a word "stātor", but I may be wrong (in PIE the word would mean the one who got up or stood)
My mother tongue isnt any of the Indo European languages, but to me PIE sounds like Russian or Eastern European languages I have heard in Hollywood movies.
"These people have come here from Earth. They believe you invited them." "What do you want?" "This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life." "What makes this man so great as to ask such a thing?"
So many people in the comments criticizing the use of Indo-European. Its like they cant fathom the concept of a movie putting the most distant ancestors of Europeans on a pedestal.
the most distant ancestor of europeans,indians and iranians..plus people doesn't understant that this is the only ancient language sucesfully reconstructed
@@Nullius_in_verba Many reconstructions are likely incorrect and suffer from a Centum bias . I mean few Iranians or Indians, Pakis , Armenians or Greeks are studying IE languages as scholars to fix the vast gap that exists in IE history and archaeology of the Upper Middle East and Central Asia. With the collapse of Soviet Union, IE research has lagged behind duein the putative IE homeland since its largely been overridden by Turkic people since the 5th Century AD Gokturk Expansion . Pakistan and Afghanistan have been in endless civil war and its difficult to get any proper research done there . Turkey and Azerbaijan and the Post Soviet 'Stans care 2 hoots for IE history being Turkic nations themselves and needing to suppress their IE history to build new national narratives.
Where are the so called people u mentioned to have criticised the use of indo european just bcz they are the ancestors of europeans? I can't find such people in the comments, only guy I found was criticising the use of indo european bcuz it was used in an English accent
this is also correlates to how many users (scriptor) are in the FOSS projects (scriptorium/library of trivium,) aka just like how klingon native become hapax legomemnon fail also that 2 kids theory where they never taught langs, u heard of linux maybe beekes, (sorry forgot who works most on lithuanian)?, baxter? sagart sinitic?, blust natty(franku and mindfronk jest) lima?, or ;niger congo iirc is even more than my members lang fam then that nilotic vid.
No need to hastily contemporize it's pronunciations. The idea of a "germanic" accent is a modern thing, they (the actors) speak it as they speak their mother tongue. To even apply labels to a language which itself isn't fully tangential is folly, friend.
So it turns out in the book shared in another comment by the uploader, the sounds were intentionally adapted to fit a more English phonology, basically because for the most part reconstructed PIE looks like stock wifi passwords and not like a typical language, and thus a very complicated and difficult phonology for movie actors. Since there are no native speakers to correct pronunciation they took a liberty to make the process of filming this significantly easier by adapting it to a more English phonology
Seems that way but you can find the original dialogue from "A Grammar of Modern Indo-European, Prometheus Edition" and I don't believe that appealing, specifically Germanic interpretation works unless I really missed something in the background
I realized now that proto Indo European was spoken only 7000 to 5000 years ago. Like did the engineers miss out on human language development or something 😅
there was no lingua franca at that time .. PIE is as old as Sumerian and neither could be spoken at the time of the wall paintings. the directors simply chose the langauage that seemed most mysterious and sounded best
@@Nullius_in_verba PIE still was a pretty bad choice. We don't know enough to make a usable reconstruction, one of it's descendants like ancient greek or sanskrit would have been a better choice, maybe even egyptian.
@@Novumvir PIE is well reconstructed and it could be spoken with some limitation..but it was pretty irrealistic in the movie due to its recent time (4000bc, considering that in the film we have cave paintings dated 10k bc), greek or sanskrit would have been even worse cause they are not older than 2000 bc..anyway PIE was "alien" and cool enough to be spoken for audience
Proto-nostratic is not taken very seriously by most professional linguists. It's a theory that isn't very likely. Proto Indo European, on the other hand, we know exists.
@The Chaperone Mate, you're explaining something I already know, while also being self contradictory. We know proto-indo-european existed. What we don't *know* is exactly how correct we are in its reconstruction. We are still quite confident, and aware of which things we are uncertain of, though. Proto Nostratic is a *completely different* deal, because it's the proposal of the ancestor of most languages, comparable to the theorized 'Proto-World'. There is no hard evidence for these theories, and they're based on language families that we aren't even sure whether are related or not. At least with Proto Indo European we can tell with certainty that Sanskrit and Greek, for example, are clearly related. But Afro Asiatic, Ugaritic, and everything else? We do not know this. Proto Indo European is based on certainties and extrapolated educated guesses. Proto Nostratic is based on uncertainties and controversial educated guesses.
ah it's "Kwa wlna tewa" xD Found it in the A Grammar of Modern Indo-European, Prometheus Edition Why he didnt pronounce "a" in "wlna", and pronounced "teiwa" instead "tewa", hello to english pronunsiation)
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Yes, the deity part you unfortunately cut from the video. When asked "why does this man think he deserves such a gift?" Weyland(which is a hint to a Devil's name) answers:"Because I created him"(pointing to David)"Because we are alike, we are like gods."
I think was wrong to put Pie here, because the are more languages families than indo-european (like sino-tibatanas) i thinks was better if they put proto-human (who doesnt exist)
90% of the movie was about (human) idiots in space. This scene however is the best part! 👍 (Prometheus 2 was about Engineer idiots and a sadistic android.)
Nnrex hest soh polom Nnrex sokhnom gondakht Goter tor peter piresk: sokhnom moi getod! Getor tor nrex : yages devous weronom Upo Nrex goter devous weronom yagta : kloud h moi peter weronou Devos weronous da Konhtaguat Kud duwl hesti? :suknos Whelmi Tud hesto Vaked locazh devos weronom Upo Nnrex patnie sokhnom gehgone .)
@unapologetic s "Because the aryans literally built the ancient world from portugal to western china." Haha, no) "Androovo an aryan tribe building the system that still exist in india. Sintashta building the ethno genesis of iranian people that would end up spreading all over the middle east forming the first modern empire. Hittites another aryan tribe building a country that alongside egypt would became the most powefull in the bronze age, were the ones who invent iron metalurgy. Mitanni and cassites indo iranian elite dominating the rest of the middle east. Scythians becoming the king of the steppe and teaching the finno ugric and mongols the way of the life of the steppe. Afanasievo snd tocharians spreading mwtalurgy, horse, chariots, apiculture to china that would let them start their girst civilization." They had not even cities and write system) Steepe peoples. Compare with south india civilization, or ancient egypt, or akkadians "And of course all of europe was aryanized italic tribes , mycenians and dorians the first civilization of europe." Nope, aryans are only indoiranians, not even hittites and tocharians
@@user-ld3jo5xp8o No Aryan is synonymous with Indo-European. Hittites and Tocharians are absolutely of the same stock as Andronovo and Sintashta cultures. And yes, there are are cognates with Indo-Iranic words for Noble in Indo-European languages, and they did call themselves Aryan.
Hey. Just wanted to say "american" is not a nationality. If I move to America I will be come American. Just like your ancestors moved there a few hundreds of years:)
Lol if that were true , human mtDNA will show some neanderthal mtDNA also , but no evidence for that. only autosomal DNA at very low freq - Neanderthal men raping Sapient women and Sapient women who gave birth to hybrid daughters who then mated back with Sapient men to give sapient children with only Neanderthal Autosomes.
Engineer got angry because PIE was not properly reconstructed by our Eurofascist-linguists and seemed like a gutter accent to him. Next time try Hittite or Luwian it may work, and have some Russian or Lithuanian speaker vocalize it.If that fails try Sanskrit or Greek or Armenian or finally Avestan lool.
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Too much Proto Indo European research done with Eurocentric bias and ignores the Anatolian and South Caspian (Mazanderani) origin .
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Enough evidence nowadays points towards a homeland of IE between Zagros Armenian Knot and Pamirs - which includes modern Azerbaijan, Caspian Sea Basin, Eastern georgia , and stretching all the way to the Oxus valley and yes including the Khwarezm steppe/Tugai forests south of Aral Sea. The domestication of Horses and demand for copper mining meant they established nomadic settlements in the steppe and eventually invaded Central Europe from both the steppe Route ( Volga Urals) - Ancestors of Slavs, Sarmatians and Germanic people and the Anatolian Peninsula - Ancestors of Italic and Celtic people, bringing in Farming skills and horsemanship and Chariots in several waves from 2500 BC to 500 AD ( Alans and Ossets). Virtually all Men of R1a and R1b originated in Central and Western Asia respectively . And As much as it hurts the Ego of Europeans and their manufactured fairy tales of ice age refuges, the Ancestors of R1a and R1b aka haplogroups R and its ancestor P originated in India lol. The ancestors of Haplogroup P - Haplogroup K and its own ancestor Haplogroup F also differentiated in India. All Eurasian men descended from Haplogroup CF have an ancestry either in India or Sundaland ( South East Asia) , thats what caused the long term genetic drift from originally African Ancestors from which they became genetically isolated after the long term drying up of the Sahara desert region.
@@hayvebromier2158 OP have synethesia so he confused writing from like all the way to egyptian nativlang to rameses sea people accounts with punt et al annals /s
The Centum-Satem isogloss means Sanskrit and Persian broke away from PIE before a divergence happened, so maybe we should recreate 75% hittite and 25% Sanskrit - oldest recorded IE languages. Sanskrit has too many loanwords from Dravidic and many from now extinct Austric and Tibeto burman languages (and some even from Burusho)
Lol it is laughable the anunaki is a sumerian myth not indo European but Europeans want them to speak indo European.. they should be speaking sumerian not indo-european.
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi the engineers are totally inspired by the sumerian myth the "Anunaki" the aliens (gods) that created humans from their dna (myth) hundred thousand years ago and then went to their home planet Niberu, when they returned they found that the humans changed a lot and became monsters thus should be killed and thus the great flood happened the flood is actually a sumerian myth to begin with.
@@BaranLordofLight I hope you know that Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of the mythology in question is bullshit and contradicted by literally every other scholar in the field
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Its funny that Sanskrit has so many loanwords from Harappan, Indo Gangetic languages, Austro Asiatic and Dravidian , it was created by the post Harappans under influence of migrating tribes of IE people who settled in Northern Indian Plains due to climate change caused by the Bond cooling Event or 5 Kiloyear event- which destroyed early animal husbandry and small scale agriculture in Northern Afghanistan and South Central Asia - upper middle east etc. Its a constructed language or standard register. I think a better langauge can be designed for AI using simple algorithmics , or more likely it would be a metalanguage of sorts.
@@ArrowBast Wrong! What's so funny about loan words? Even English has derived most of their vocabs from romance languages and Greek languages! You can't speak English today without using words derived from romance languages and Greek! Indo-gangetic languages are descendants of Sanskrit! Harrapan language is a mystery, no one knows what language did the Harrapans speak!! Sanskrit has negligible loan words from Austro-Asiatic. Very less from Dravdian. It's the other way around. Dravidian languages like Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada and also Tamil to an extent draws many of their vocabularies from Sanskrit.
Proto-Indo-European is a myth. How can a language that has no alphabet nor literature be the mother of most languages? The mother of the languages has the above. ο νοών νοείτω.
Gotta let you know that people were speaking long before they invented writing. They just moved and colonized all of Europe and parts of Asia and the languages that developed there all had/have common roots in their words as a consequence. There is literally nothing weird about this.
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They speak PIE with the english accent.
Vitaly Zorin
LOL
They are western Indo Europeans from British islands
Actually, that is a rare example of a non-appropriation.
@@Richard_is_cool The thing is: Indo-Europeans were Asians, bc their ancestors inhabited part of Asia (some *still* do). Modern Europeans are ⅓ African and ⅔ Asian - by ancestry.
However, the Indo-Europeans aren't the only ancestors of modern Europeans.
Before that the early farmer came from the middle east to Europe (via Anatolia, modern day "Turkey") and colonized hunter and gatherers. Which were originally also from the middle east, reached Europe via West Asia or Caucasus. From the middle east they trace back they roots back to east africa.
So Europeans are the "extra-light skins" of the human race. Bc certain Africans and Asians have fair skin alleles too, this means they can be fair skinned too. Fair skin is not a "pure european thing". It's just a fact that certain fair skin alleles are typical for Asians and certain are typical among Europeans.
I really don't know what kind of moron thought it would be a "good" idea to come up with such a BS term like "cultural appropriation". And even more stupid to adopt this idiotic term.
Surely English is spoken with a PIE accent ...
I love how the engineer just looks so goddamn confused in this scene. The look on his face is just like Wtf how long have i been asleep?!
"Paah vwullid Teybha, Vaar gurglor nayah?! What do you seek, why are you here!" Waar nooren iddhah maryuh ghat gai-gharaste? How can a mortal man "come to life" after he has already become old?"
The Engineer looks more realistic than Weyland. Damn makeup fail
the engineer is pure make up and not CGI. Just a tall guy in a lot of costume and make up work.
@gayhans6448 BUT Weyland isn’t CGI either… why does he look so bad?
@@electrictroy2010
Because he's a decrepit old fuck
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi he looks like a guy dressed as a decrepit old man. He's not convincing like the engineer, who's of a fictional alien race.
@@electrictroy2010 because they used the same makeup artists as Bad Grandpa
Girl screaming about wanting to know details that would have made the movie make any f**ing sense. She speaks for the audience.
That is an interesting take
Please, my ancestors, forgive me, i didnt understand a single word XD
Forgive me too 🥺
Forgive me too
avasaķdžita
Probably many of your Ancestors spoke Etruscan or other original European languages that existed before Indo-European invasion, so no harm done.
And what about those ancestors who got killed by IE lol
David's teacher, who appears in the movie in the form of a hologram, was a real expert in this matter - Dr. Anil Biltu from the London SOAS language center. He agreed to translate the phrase android.
David says the following: " / ida hman ə m a ɪ kja nam ṛ tuh zd ɛ: taha / … / gh ʷ ɪ vah-pjorn - ɪ ttham sas da: t ṛ kredah /". Which means, “This person is here because he doesn't want to die. He believes you can extend his life. ”
I used to think it was ridiculous some 200+ IQ alien chimped on the humans but the Indo European dialogue adds so much context. Plus, the engineers whole society is about rebirth and death.
@@Ian-yf7uf Still can pick pick out "man" (Adam) from Hman... and Krdah (believe) (Creed) (Creedence) (Creditis in Latin) etc
@@mats1975adam isnt linked with hman because is a semithic name
@@anto-sk4ce All languages have a common ancestor.
...which is not Proto-Semitic. So, what's the point? @@oraetlabora1922
*him* "I learnt Proto-Indo-European"
*me* _uses Google translate_
Not available in PIE
David is an android. Weyland IS using "google" to translate.
I find the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European language very interesting. But everytime I listen to it, it sounds like hell. This one sounds even deeper than hell. Idk what that even could be, urban hell?!
Ground floor deep hell? xD
@Not Berber Nothing is that bad
No, the suburbs of hell
I always imagine PIE to be a mix of Sanskrit, Russian, Kashmiri, Haryanvi, Lithuanian.
Proto-indo-hell
So this is what movies would’ve been like if human technology advanced thousands of years before it did in our timeline
We dont have a linear history. There were human civilisations who were more advanced
@@n.sadequi4381 Not true
As an Indian, i only understood deva(god). Please, my ancestors, forgive me cus i only understood one word.
Apparently "Ma vulit teva?" means "What do you want?" but I did think of that initially
Just a sub-saharan watching aryans speak proto-indo-european
Wtf
An average Wednesday am I right?
There’s no such thing as aryans. These are indo european caucasoids.
I wish we got a real part 2 of this instead of Covenant. This was a masterpiece of a movie and one of the most believable sci fi ancient alien films. I love how they look like Greek Gods. I would love to see more of them. They are among my favorite alien races and culture of any sci fi universe
No such thing as Greek Gods. The Gods were actually Illyrian/ Pelasgians, you can read about the Illyrians and Pelasgians. Greece didn't exist. It was all the Illyrian Peninsula. Illyrians translate to as the "The Star People". Pelasgians are the "Sea People".
@@angeloschanneL851 you mean during the Bronze Age right?
@@angeloschanneL851 I think even before that because they speak protoindoeuropean. And there actually was a protoindoeuropean culture. It was very similar to Spartan culture mixed with Germanic culture from my understanding. They were a nomadic people but they trained their young in survival and war and when they were old enough they were sent on their own to survive and they had the choice to come back or raid other tribes and start their own or join other ones. But regardless they were sent on raids and were trained from childhood.
@@angeloschanneL851 The Mycenaeans existed
@@angeloschanneL851 but you know what I meant by the look like Greek Gods right? I didn’t mean literally but I mean the marble statues of Greek Gods.
Someone get Survive the Jive here
*Very*
@123mambo321 𝕰𝖚𝖗𝖔𝖕𝖊𝖆𝖓
Yeeees
Indo
Uropean
blonde blue eyed robot that speaks Indo-European, glad Himmler didn't survive the war to get ideas from this movie lol
You have the right idea
David is basically a Nazi in all but two respects: a) having a Hebrew name and b) being a far better mad scientist than the utter hack Josef Mengele (the Japanese counterpart, Shiro Ishii, who got let clean off the hook for providing quality data from hideous medical experiments to the US, is certainly a much more fitting comparison)
😂
@KebabCentral Yeah? Can you tell me where "Josef" comes from?
Indo European dont you mean Aryan?
@@AlejandroFlores-vi8tl Same thing; less baggage
Everything is cool, peops. Someone just needs to get Queen Elizabeth in here, she'll translate.
Was hoping for a translation. Though I didn't know it was in PIE 🥧 so that's cool.
I posted the translation in the comments somewhere
Why does the alien speak proto-indo-european?
I guess the implication is that Indo-Europeans had contact with the engineers, and adopted their language.
Eurocentrism
Thank you girl for ruining the moment with your screaming!
I didn’t know it was indoeuropean😳
I did not understand a single word (either English or PIE). It looks tдшлу here was a word "stātor", but I may be wrong (in PIE the word would mean the one who got up or stood)
My mother tongue isnt any of the Indo European languages, but to me PIE sounds like Russian or Eastern European languages I have heard in Hollywood movies.
Maybe ?
Because they have changed less and are closer to it
@@dolphingoreeaccount7395 You mean the Satem languages?
If you know you know; you know?
Wow, I watched that movie when I was a teen, I would've never gueessed they were speaking proto-indo-european
This movie is like 2 years old ain't it?
my ancestor
Is there a direct text translation somewhere?
Look into "A Grammar of Modern Indo-European (Prometheus Edition)"
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Thank you Sir.
managed to pick only a bunch of words... lol
lucky I won't get shamed, since my native language is not IE :D
Sounds like weird German-Sanskrit
German-Sanskrit-Latin-Welsh...
@Tyler The kremlin Kremator
Not Turkic, that arose further east, possibly in Siberia.
Because it’s the ancestor of all those languages
Rigvedic Sanskrit Samhita language would have been a great choice instead of PIE to have conversation with Engineer - The descendent of Tvshtr
neat can you translate what is said?
"These people have come here from Earth. They believe you invited them."
"What do you want?"
"This man is here because he does not want to die. He believes you can give him more life."
"What makes this man so great as to ask such a thing?"
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi is there a script to this talk in indoeuropean language? I mean what exactly they say. Thanks
@@rarevisitor1250 Look for "A Grammar of Modern Indo-European", specifically the Prometheus Edition. It's in there towards the end.
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi
Could u give their speech in PIE reconstruction plz?)
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi
I can't find) What's page?
What's with that freaky music at the start? Is that meant to be a background noise?
So many people in the comments criticizing the use of Indo-European. Its like they cant fathom the concept of a movie putting the most distant ancestors of Europeans on a pedestal.
the most distant ancestor of europeans,indians and iranians..plus people doesn't understant that this is the only ancient language sucesfully reconstructed
@@Nullius_in_verba Many reconstructions are likely incorrect and suffer from a Centum bias . I mean few Iranians or Indians, Pakis , Armenians or Greeks are studying IE languages as scholars to fix the vast gap that exists in IE history and archaeology of the Upper Middle East and Central Asia. With the collapse of Soviet Union, IE research has lagged behind duein the putative IE homeland since its largely been overridden by Turkic people since the 5th Century AD Gokturk Expansion . Pakistan and Afghanistan have been in endless civil war and its difficult to get any proper research done there . Turkey and Azerbaijan and the Post Soviet 'Stans care 2 hoots for IE history being Turkic nations themselves and needing to suppress their IE history to build new national narratives.
Where are the so called people u mentioned to have criticised the use of indo european just bcz they are the ancestors of europeans? I can't find such people in the comments, only guy I found was criticising the use of indo european bcuz it was used in an English accent
this is also correlates to how many users (scriptor) are in the FOSS projects (scriptorium/library of trivium,) aka just like how klingon native become hapax legomemnon fail also that 2 kids theory where they never taught langs, u heard of linux maybe beekes, (sorry forgot who works most on lithuanian)?, baxter? sagart sinitic?, blust natty(franku and mindfronk jest) lima?, or ;niger congo iirc is even more than my members lang fam then that nilotic vid.
No one is criticizing use of PIE, "mOsT diStAnT aNceStOrS oF eUroPeaNS," as if Northern Indian subcontinent, Iranians, central asians don't exist.
he asked why?
just because.
the words seem like every other pie language but the accent is verrryy germanic.
No need to hastily contemporize it's pronunciations. The idea of a "germanic" accent is a modern thing, they (the actors) speak it as they speak their mother tongue. To even apply labels to a language which itself isn't fully tangential is folly, friend.
@@difficultar thanks for the clarification and your way of speaking is very poetic. Sounds like I'm reading ecclesiastes
So it turns out in the book shared in another comment by the uploader, the sounds were intentionally adapted to fit a more English phonology, basically because for the most part reconstructed PIE looks like stock wifi passwords and not like a typical language, and thus a very complicated and difficult phonology for movie actors. Since there are no native speakers to correct pronunciation they took a liberty to make the process of filming this significantly easier by adapting it to a more English phonology
@@difficultar Word salad
Truly an Engineer Gaming moment
I really would like to know why he wants to live forever
Super rich egomaniacs regard death as narcissistic offense.
Fear?
wait till you get sick and old and you'll understand
Just a plum beer truck stop
My ancestor ⚡⚡⚡
but why was David sure the Engineers spoke the proto-Indo-European language and not a proto-Turkic or proto-Sinitic or proto-Semitic?
Peter Weyland is anglo.
@@Umilenya meaning???
@@chadester001 David inherited his cultural bias from his creator/programmer. Accidentally, Weyland guessed right.
@Luciano Bauer So I'm an undergraduate with a focus on Indo-European studies. What the hell have you been smoking?
because he was studying the language of the old gods not the old sand people or rice farmers
Lmao he barely nudged her with the gun and she cried out in pain
That's because she just gave "birth"
her emergency c-section wounds were still fresh
0:14 Did he say "Er hatta verstanda"?
Yes, something about a hat-stand
Seems that way but you can find the original dialogue from "A Grammar of Modern Indo-European, Prometheus Edition" and I don't believe that appealing, specifically Germanic interpretation works unless I really missed something in the background
I thought between David and Goliath...
God language pro Sanskrit else Sanskrit
I realized now that proto Indo European was spoken only 7000 to 5000 years ago. Like did the engineers miss out on human language development or something 😅
If I ever create a religion or cult, the main language will be proto indo European
Weirdest Tool video ever
In these scene, I wonder, wouldn't be more reasonable to they speak Sumerian ? Which it was the lingua franca in those times in the civilization.
there was no lingua franca at that time .. PIE is as old as Sumerian and neither could be spoken at the time of the wall paintings. the directors simply chose the langauage that seemed most mysterious and sounded best
@@Nullius_in_verba PIE still was a pretty bad choice. We don't know enough to make a usable reconstruction, one of it's descendants like ancient greek or sanskrit would have been a better choice, maybe even egyptian.
@@Novumvir PIE is well reconstructed and it could be spoken with some limitation..but it was pretty irrealistic in the movie due to its recent time (4000bc, considering that in the film we have cave paintings dated 10k bc), greek or sanskrit would have been even worse cause they are not older than 2000 bc..anyway PIE was "alien" and cool enough to be spoken for audience
@@Nullius_in_verba you think PIE is 12K BC?🤣
@@sanepillow59 Nope, is 4/5 kbc at max
Hello from an Armenian :P r1b brothers
Well… the Engineer is white
guy literally said dehwa... it means god. Where tge hell did they go wrong in translation.
"Ma vulit teva?!" does not say "deva"
Deva means god .
Iam the god now 😂
@Sheen woww thanks 👍
Devous is god
Can't hear a damned word over the music and other background noise.
Proto-Nostratic would have been a more sensible choice for a language honestly. More realistic.
@Tyler The kremlin Kremator yes i do.
@The Lament yeah possibly
Proto-nostratic is not taken very seriously by most professional linguists. It's a theory that isn't very likely. Proto Indo European, on the other hand, we know exists.
@@megasupreme9985 that's fair.
@The Chaperone Mate, you're explaining something I already know, while also being self contradictory. We know proto-indo-european existed. What we don't *know* is exactly how correct we are in its reconstruction. We are still quite confident, and aware of which things we are uncertain of, though.
Proto Nostratic is a *completely different* deal, because it's the proposal of the ancestor of most languages, comparable to the theorized 'Proto-World'. There is no hard evidence for these theories, and they're based on language families that we aren't even sure whether are related or not. At least with Proto Indo European we can tell with certainty that Sanskrit and Greek, for example, are clearly related. But Afro Asiatic, Ugaritic, and everything else? We do not know this. Proto Indo European is based on certainties and extrapolated educated guesses. Proto Nostratic is based on uncertainties and controversial educated guesses.
0:39 - deiwa? What is the form of deiwos (god)?
ah it's "Kwa wlna tewa" xD Found it in the A Grammar of Modern Indo-European, Prometheus Edition
Why he didnt pronounce "a" in "wlna", and pronounced "teiwa" instead "tewa", hello to english pronunsiation)
@Jotaro97
English dialect?)
Haha (no)
@Jotaro97
Which is similar to English?)
hah
He's asking them what they want I think. It doesn't refer to any deity.
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Yes, the deity part you unfortunately cut from the video. When asked "why does this man think he deserves such a gift?" Weyland(which is a hint to a Devil's name) answers:"Because I created him"(pointing to David)"Because we are alike, we are like gods."
500th like!!
Why would he speak PIE and not another language?
I think was wrong to put Pie here, because the are more languages families than indo-european (like sino-tibatanas) i thinks was better if they put proto-human (who doesnt exist)
African languages
@@human8454 which group of them?
Dear Muhammad-al-kwarishmi you've f*cked up my school days with your one summer holidays assignment on 'Algebra'
Im sorry ancestors
By the way, what is the proto-indian-European language like?
The closest thing you're likely familiar with is Sanskrit
Arstartes
So developed and hasn't discover anything for hair loss :/
look into danny roddy on youtube and some of the work done by dr. ray peat
I guess they lost hair in their process of evolution since engineers can live upto thousands of years
sounds nothing like indo european
What should it sound like?
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi it had a bunch of labialized velars and laryngeals
@@metta9743
What should it have
it doesn't sound like a real language because of the tension of the line-speakers imo
Without captions this is simi pointless
90% of the movie was about (human) idiots in space. This scene however is the best part! 👍
(Prometheus 2 was about Engineer idiots and a sadistic android.)
whahahhahahahahha
0:38, 1:18
Nnrex hest soh polom
Nnrex sokhnom gondakht
Goter tor peter piresk: sokhnom moi getod!
Getor tor nrex : yages devous weronom
Upo Nrex goter devous weronom yagta
: kloud h moi peter weronou
Devos weronous da Konhtaguat
Kud duwl hesti?
:suknos Whelmi
Tud hesto
Vaked locazh devos weronom
Upo Nnrex patnie sokhnom gehgone .)
based
Nonsense!
Moi guhed tu
Hesto!
Why would they speak the language of steppe people ?
Presumably the Engineers visited earth/Eastern Europe and taught the primitives tonspeak the engineers’ language (what we call Proto-Indo-European)
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@unapologetic s
"Because the aryans literally built the ancient world from portugal to western china."
Haha, no)
"Androovo an aryan tribe building the system that still exist in india.
Sintashta building the ethno genesis of iranian people that would end up spreading all over the middle east forming the first modern empire.
Hittites another aryan tribe building a country that alongside egypt would became the most powefull in the bronze age, were the ones who invent iron metalurgy.
Mitanni and cassites indo iranian elite dominating the rest of the middle east.
Scythians becoming the king of the steppe and teaching the finno ugric and mongols the way of the life of the steppe.
Afanasievo snd tocharians spreading mwtalurgy, horse, chariots, apiculture to china that would let them start their girst civilization."
They had not even cities and write system) Steepe peoples. Compare with south india civilization, or ancient egypt, or akkadians
"And of course all of europe was aryanized italic tribes , mycenians and dorians the first civilization of europe."
Nope, aryans are only indoiranians, not even hittites and tocharians
@Jotaro97
Nope, they are independent branch
@unapologetic s Tartaria
@@user-ld3jo5xp8o No Aryan is synonymous with Indo-European. Hittites and Tocharians are absolutely of the same stock as Andronovo and Sintashta cultures. And yes, there are are cognates with Indo-Iranic words for Noble in Indo-European languages, and they did call themselves Aryan.
Based off of who your account is named after, may I ask what your nationality is?
American
Muhammad al-Khwarizmi what influenced you to name your account after him?
@@altinbey5831 He was a great man and it was my pseudonym when I was making fractal artwork. "al-Khwarzmi" is now also my legal middle name.
Hey. Just wanted to say "american" is not a nationality. If I move to America I will be come American. Just like your ancestors moved there a few hundreds of years:)
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Very nice!
Ridicilous
they should speak Persian
Your surname is turkic
@@Lipton3373 yeah proud of it
@@Lipton3373 He is a Pakistani or Indian though . very few Persians have that surname .
@@ArrowBast Zaroon Khan is pretty Pakistan. Dunno the middle name.
It's also a shock that Indians,Pakistani,Persian and iranian were too part of indo european.
im a big fan of the language, but jesus does it sound awful here 😂😂
from the language i think this is not proto indo european
It really is and two dedicated scholars are behind this exchange
European AF
You are cute mommy
Personally I think proto european is a language that was spoken by neanderthals
Nope, much later than that
Lol if that were true , human mtDNA will show some neanderthal mtDNA also , but no evidence for that. only autosomal DNA at very low freq - Neanderthal men raping Sapient women and Sapient women who gave birth to hybrid daughters who then mated back with Sapient men to give sapient children with only Neanderthal Autosomes.
@@ArrowBast Do you think there's a correlation to humans having something called the 'uncanny valley' effect and neanderthals? I Do.
Proto indo european been spreading all around 4000 bc
You shouldn’t claim to ‘personally’ believe things that have no basis in any evidence.
Am I'm the only 1 who thinks Indo european were originated from space.
Yes, because that's batshit
@@dontchewglass why is that?
I hope so
Engineer got angry because PIE was not properly reconstructed by our Eurofascist-linguists and seemed like a gutter accent to him. Next time try Hittite or Luwian it may work, and have some Russian or Lithuanian speaker vocalize it.If that fails try Sanskrit or Greek or Armenian or finally Avestan lool.
"Eurofascist"?
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Too much Proto Indo European research done with Eurocentric bias and ignores the Anatolian and South Caspian (Mazanderani) origin .
@@ArrowBast I'm going to have to see a paper or something on this.
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Enough evidence nowadays points towards a homeland of IE between Zagros Armenian Knot and Pamirs - which includes modern Azerbaijan, Caspian Sea Basin, Eastern georgia , and stretching all the way to the Oxus valley and yes including the Khwarezm steppe/Tugai forests south of Aral Sea. The domestication of Horses and demand for copper mining meant they established nomadic settlements in the steppe and eventually invaded Central Europe from both the steppe Route ( Volga Urals) - Ancestors of Slavs, Sarmatians and Germanic people and the Anatolian Peninsula - Ancestors of Italic and Celtic people, bringing in Farming skills and horsemanship and Chariots in several waves from 2500 BC to 500 AD ( Alans and Ossets). Virtually all Men of R1a and R1b originated in Central and Western Asia respectively . And As much as it hurts the Ego of Europeans and their manufactured fairy tales of ice age refuges, the Ancestors of R1a and R1b aka haplogroups R and its ancestor P originated in India lol. The ancestors of Haplogroup P - Haplogroup K and its own ancestor Haplogroup F also differentiated in India. All Eurasian men descended from Haplogroup CF have an ancestry either in India or Sundaland ( South East Asia) , thats what caused the long term genetic drift from originally African Ancestors from which they became genetically isolated after the long term drying up of the Sahara desert region.
@@ArrowBast Yes OK but where are you getting this from
Sounds alot like phoenician.
lmaooo
Phoenician is Hebrew
Not modern Hebrew but still Hebrew
@@bunb8541 Yeah, it''s funny how little awareness people tend to have that the Carthaginians were direct cousins of the Jews...
@@hayvebromier2158 OP have synethesia so he confused writing from like all the way to egyptian nativlang to rameses sea people accounts with punt et al annals /s
Indo european language is PROTO SANSKRIT Language.
Omi Sahay Ya I guess
Omi Sahay yes
Well then this is proto-proto-sanskrit
The Centum-Satem isogloss means Sanskrit and Persian broke away from PIE before a divergence happened, so maybe we should recreate 75% hittite and 25% Sanskrit - oldest recorded IE languages. Sanskrit has too many loanwords from Dravidic and many from now extinct Austric and Tibeto burman languages (and some even from Burusho)
@@ArrowBast Hittite had Semitic elements and loans. Hittite ain't "pure"... So what's your point again?
Lol it is laughable the anunaki is a sumerian myth not indo European but Europeans want them to speak indo European.. they should be speaking sumerian not indo-european.
What does this have to do with the Annunaki?
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi nothing.. seems you can't even put two and two together.
@@BaranLordofLight Explain because I'm apparently a big dummy
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi the engineers are totally inspired by the sumerian myth the "Anunaki" the aliens (gods) that created humans from their dna (myth) hundred thousand years ago and then went to their home planet Niberu, when they returned they found that the humans changed a lot and became monsters thus should be killed and thus the great flood happened the flood is actually a sumerian myth to begin with.
@@BaranLordofLight I hope you know that Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of the mythology in question is bullshit and contradicted by literally every other scholar in the field
Sanskrit is the most ancient and perfect language for AI: NASA
That's a myth; they never used Sanskrit for AI
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi they dont use it. they just saying sanskrit is the best language for AI because of its precision
@@BelisariusAlKhwarizmi Its funny that Sanskrit has so many loanwords from Harappan, Indo Gangetic languages, Austro Asiatic and Dravidian , it was created by the post Harappans under influence of migrating tribes of IE people who settled in Northern Indian Plains due to climate change caused by the Bond cooling Event or 5 Kiloyear event- which destroyed early animal husbandry and small scale agriculture in Northern Afghanistan and South Central Asia - upper middle east etc. Its a constructed language or standard register. I think a better langauge can be designed for AI using simple algorithmics , or more likely it would be a metalanguage of sorts.
No one ever said anything like that. Hindu nationalists like to say that to feel good about themselves. That's blatant race pride and nothing else
@@ArrowBast
Wrong!
What's so funny about loan words? Even English has derived most of their vocabs from romance languages and Greek languages!
You can't speak English today without using words derived from romance languages and Greek!
Indo-gangetic languages are descendants of Sanskrit!
Harrapan language is a mystery, no one knows what language did the Harrapans speak!!
Sanskrit has negligible loan words from Austro-Asiatic. Very less from Dravdian. It's the other way around. Dravidian languages like Malayalam, Telugu, Kannada and also Tamil to an extent draws many of their vocabularies from Sanskrit.
Proto-Indo-European is a myth. How can a language that has no alphabet nor literature be the mother of most languages? The mother of the languages has the above. ο νοών νοείτω.
That's like saying Proto-Bantu doesn't exist for the same reason
Writing developed tens of thousands of years after language. Go back to school!
Gotta let you know that people were speaking long before they invented writing.
They just moved and colonized all of Europe and parts of Asia and the languages that developed there all had/have common roots in their words as a consequence.
There is literally nothing weird about this.
Ask him where his *gʷṓws is!!!!
Tor pehther piresk