When Liston Confronted Trash Talking Muhammad Ali

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  • Welcome back to Boxing After Dark! Today we dive into the electrifying world of boxing history as we spotlight two legends at a pivotal moment in their careers. Charles "Sonny" Liston, reigning supreme after back-to-back knockouts over Floyd Patterson, is at the peak of his powers. Meanwhile, a brash and talented young contender, Muhammad Ali, has finally earned his long-awaited title shot.

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  • @stevenx2523
    @stevenx2523 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    The thing about Liston is he grew up in such a poor environment to what we'd now expect, that he didn't even know his birthday. It's speculated he might have been well past 40 if not nearly 45 by the time he fought Ali, and he'd been crushing guys for years. He really had a terribly hard life and the more I learned about him the more I felt sorry for the guy and how people treated him.

  • @buschovski1
    @buschovski1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Here Ali was throwing hard af. Also, these people probably thought he couldnt take a Liston punch but of course he had one of the best chins in boxing.

    • @sherrcon
      @sherrcon วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      don't you think it strange that liston overdosed after the second fight with ali???...and his back hurt making him stop the fight?...

  • @reefferhemp9774
    @reefferhemp9774 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    This fight 60 years old, in it was way better then the Tyson fight last night 😆🥃🃏

    • @DJAjamu
      @DJAjamu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Yeah, because Tyson himself is damn near 60 years old. 😂

    • @reefferhemp9774
      @reefferhemp9774 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ 😁😆🤣

    • @Sandoz-b3v
      @Sandoz-b3v 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      "Fight" that was a circus show, the announcers was irritating me by shouting to make it sound as if it was a world's greatest fight.
      8 two rounds of joke, just milking MIke Tyson's name.

    • @reefferhemp9774
      @reefferhemp9774 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ damn bro tell me how you really feel 😁😆🤣🍸

    • @giovannidavinci3175
      @giovannidavinci3175 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Actually a “fight” can be good regardless of the “time”
      So that is irrelevant.
      Definitely a good fight though 👌🏼

  • @fisterklister
    @fisterklister 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I think this version of Muhamme Ali would have beaten anybody, but Liston was fantastis in his two fights against Cleveland Williams.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @fisterklister ...You have to think abour?

    • @CFGrandWizard
      @CFGrandWizard 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@brucescott4261Sonny estuvo fantástico toda su vida, excepto con Muhammad Ali y su sparring Leotis Martin

  • @floydpattersonii4996
    @floydpattersonii4996 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sonny Liston, the most feared of his time. I never got a chance to meet him but I did connect with his Son. We both had a connection thru our Fathers.

    • @rikardloman4225
      @rikardloman4225 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We love Floyd Patterson in Sweden. Greetings to his son from the home country of Ingemar Johansson!

  • @orobleh77
    @orobleh77 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Ali:" I shook up the world". These words would resonate for a long time to come.

  • @emulaboy
    @emulaboy 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alia was afraid and even with fear he pushed yourself to the limit. What a man!

  • @jasonhall4734
    @jasonhall4734 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The 60s ali was definitely the greatest. Wish he'd faced frazier Holmes and foreman in that era

    • @Skip-qr2oc
      @Skip-qr2oc 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah it's a shame we didn't get to see prime Ali

    • @itubecollection1623
      @itubecollection1623 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Skip-qr2ocFrazier and Foreman wouldn't land a single a punch and Holmes was very fast, determined and tough as nails but would still drown in the later rounds

    • @Skip-qr2oc
      @Skip-qr2oc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@itubecollection1623 Exactly 💯👍👍🚬

    • @uhuruchisanga9118
      @uhuruchisanga9118 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The United States government banned Ali from boxing in his prime, his early/mid 20's.....dirty muthafukahz

  • @turanga35
    @turanga35 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    You could see and hear the shot to the chin,Liston leaned in at exactly the wrong time. That's what messed up his equilibrium. I have watched that punch frame by frame, it was devastating.

    • @olivermeier2949
      @olivermeier2949 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Chuvalo was there and said the punch couldn't squash a grape

    • @turanga35
      @turanga35 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @olivermeier2949 Look at it frame by frame sometime, it might change your mind.

  • @mr_prodd
    @mr_prodd 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The rematch was even more clinical,,the pull back right counter was one of the sweetest KO's.

  • @haider2006
    @haider2006 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Nobody really knows sonny listons age since he ran away from a plantation when he was a young boy and since he was on his own when he ran away nobody knew his real age. When he fought Ali he was said to be 34 but some people believed he was close to 50

    • @kmossx
      @kmossx 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He could be the unofficial oldest heavyweight champion but we’ll never know

    • @davidgurk3229
      @davidgurk3229 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The best evidence, including U.S Census data, indicate that Sonny was born in the summer of 1930. That would make him a little older than his "official" age, but nowhere near as old as rumor would have it.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @haider2006 ...Liston wasn't anywhere near fifty years old.

    • @haider2006
      @haider2006 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@brucescott4261and how would u know

    • @theodorebrady9341
      @theodorebrady9341 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      50 how old are you

  • @danielrivera2365
    @danielrivera2365 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    For a Heavyweight, Ali's handspeed was incredible.

    • @JDL0427
      @JDL0427 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@danielrivera2365 so true. In this fight his hands were lightning. He was able to put together combinations that came from everywhere. And Ali was a big heavyweight. A lot of people missed that because he was so graceful. He manhandled most heavyweights in the clinches. He was an artful boxer who studied the great ones. And very, very few could take a punch like he did, which became his achilles heel. His courage. I remember a fight where Ernie Shavers hit him with a punch that still gives me the willies. All Ali did was clown about about it.

  • @alainndaba9422
    @alainndaba9422 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ali is the GOAT. Rest in peace our boxing King

  • @Jarrid313
    @Jarrid313 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Ali backed his shit up. Gotta love him

  • @ysgol3
    @ysgol3 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ali's punch which knocked Liston down in the second fight was a peach, the idea that Liston dived is ridiculous.
    Ali's right hand was deceptively powerful - look at the right hand punch in 1974 which was more damaging to Foreman than the flurry which KOd him seconds later for example.
    Sonny stumbled into it, the 'anchor punch' was so fast I still find it impossible to decide whether Ali hit him on the chin or forehead despite the films from different angles. It's very interesting too to hear the punch land - wow.

    • @JDL0427
      @JDL0427 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ysgol3 i agree! I have watched that fight many times but this last time was the first time I listened to the sound of the knockout punch. It landed.

  • @darrellowings2343
    @darrellowings2343 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Ali may be the best ever but the Liston fights were sketchy, and it was not Ali's fault.

    • @theodorebrady9341
      @theodorebrady9341 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So was every fucken fight I watched

  • @Sandoz-b3v
    @Sandoz-b3v 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    They said Ali was good talker, but I thought Sonny Liston was also good but with few words.
    " He ( Clay/Ali) should be locked up for personating a boxer"
    " I only know a few word"
    Liston in my opinion, would have knocked out any boxer in any era in his prime, that how good he was?
    Liston should have started his professional fight 10 years earlier but due to criminal record he was robbed, the best10 years of fighting.

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Sandox-b3v ...Liston was not a self promoter.

  • @JDL0427
    @JDL0427 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I listened to the first fight on the radio with my older brother. I was 10 and remember it so vicidly sitting there in the dark while history was made. They called Liston a big bear but when you see them in the ring Ali towered over him. He also had 10 pounds on him. It was not a close fight when Liston quit.

  • @jimwest9313
    @jimwest9313 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Ali would telegraph his punches with power, precision at superhuman speed had great movement and stylish footwork (Ali shuffle) for a big man couple that with intelligence = champion of the world 4ever

  • @terry5123
    @terry5123 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you watch the first fight Liston doesn’t cut the ring off but is content to follow Ali as he backpeddled this worked against him

  • @tallspaniard1
    @tallspaniard1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sonny made some Big Muniii that night ….
    My Dad called that punch , Dee Phantom Punch !!

  • @awesomefaith9965
    @awesomefaith9965 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    To have knocked out Liston and Foreman (probably two hardest hitters ever), in their primes, and both were champions, I believe Ali when he said, "I am the greatest."

    • @hectoreason7306
      @hectoreason7306 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wasn't the hardest hitter

    • @itubecollection1623
      @itubecollection1623 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@hectoreason7306they say Earnie Shavers was the hardest hitter...fought and lost also to Ali

    • @stanleysweaney6174
      @stanleysweaney6174 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Liston wasn't in his prime. That was between 1957-60. He was injured prior to their bout in 1963. His camp attempted to have the bout canceled, but the Miami Boxing Commission denied the request. The injury (a torn tendon in his shoulder) was progressively aggravated throughout the first six rounds.

  • @CharlesWashington-s5m
    @CharlesWashington-s5m 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    13:19: Correction. Sonny Liston was found dead in the master's bedroom by his wife. Not in a hotel room.

  • @AndrewLane-pm2ro
    @AndrewLane-pm2ro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wonder how much Liston got for throwing their 2nd fight.

    • @jimbyrne2328
      @jimbyrne2328 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Both fights were fixed.

  • @kyalebrooks
    @kyalebrooks 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Here for it gentleman 🙏🙌

  • @shawnhallmon9245
    @shawnhallmon9245 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it me or did Sonny Liston keep a fresh cut. His fade and line up stayed fresh. He must got a haircut every day

    • @BoxingAfterDark
      @BoxingAfterDark  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I always thought the same thing haha

  • @ReynaldoMonzon-b3o
    @ReynaldoMonzon-b3o 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cassius Clay equipped of everything he can change his style instantly the boxer with 1001 different punches

  • @KevinMacky
    @KevinMacky 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This was Roy Jones vs James Tony

    • @retiredguy7273
      @retiredguy7273 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah it was freaking me out at first. The hell is Carlos Padilla doing in there LOL. Then I realized different fight

    • @brucescott4261
      @brucescott4261 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @KevinMacky ...False!

  • @theculturedthug6609
    @theculturedthug6609 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sonny was old, look at his body it's a old man body. He was probably 10 years or more older than he said he was.

  • @Easygoated3418
    @Easygoated3418 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a huge Liston fan I was shocked to see the thumbnail because I feel he’s not as remembered as he deserves

  • @orobleh77
    @orobleh77 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    With his deadly left long chap, Sonny can not reach Ali. Fairly and squarely, Ali beat Sonny with speed and ring savvy

  • @gaa_sonofgod
    @gaa_sonofgod 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ali put that belt to his bottom 🐐🐐🐐

  • @dtsosie5836
    @dtsosie5836 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Surprisingly Bert Sugar never come to Liston's aid - smh

  • @MichaelColeman-wp5gy
    @MichaelColeman-wp5gy วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have seen a lot of fighters all the way back to Robinson in his later fights . Sonny Liston was the scariest.Tyson Foreman Shavers. Have you ever actually looked at Sonny Liston?

  • @DeathOfRetailPrice
    @DeathOfRetailPrice 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So anyway, I started blasting...
    "The gun was full of blanks..."
    Oh, okay. Carry on then...

  • @jasonmiranda9390
    @jasonmiranda9390 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Liston was the greatest

    • @olivermeier2949
      @olivermeier2949 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      2nd,just behind his idol Joe Louis

  • @AndrewLane-pm2ro
    @AndrewLane-pm2ro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's his name? Cassius Clay.

  • @drobson8004
    @drobson8004 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Speed kills

  • @CFGrandWizard
    @CFGrandWizard 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ali era mucho más que un simple trash talking, él inventó eso, era poeta, hacia predicciones, todo eso comenzó con él, es el padre del Rap

  • @MM-ig1iv
    @MM-ig1iv 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hell, almost every fight in boxing was.

  • @OinkReutel-xd7lh
    @OinkReutel-xd7lh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why are you mentioning Jake Paul? I thought this channel was about real boxers

    • @chriscolton6329
      @chriscolton6329 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      👍 Well said, mate. I'm sick of hearing about this social media influencer 'boxing' crap...Worse than WWE...

  • @justlookin56
    @justlookin56 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ally had no respect for sonny he was a old man when ally boxed him.

  • @sherrcon
    @sherrcon วันที่ผ่านมา

    as i recall, i thought it was strange that liston overdosed after the second fight with ali and died...and his back hurt making him stop the fight?..

  • @VTheMighty
    @VTheMighty 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    in the few interviews he do. you thought i wouldnt catch that. 4:30

    • @davidgurk3229
      @davidgurk3229 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Listen closely. It's "he'd do".

  • @JayAr709
    @JayAr709 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jerry Lewis couldn’t see it. Ali seemed genuinely disappointed.

  • @MichaelBrown-lm3vd
    @MichaelBrown-lm3vd 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thats the night he became the greatest

  • @jamiepreston1490
    @jamiepreston1490 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    After the Tyson/Paul fight last night boxing is officially a joke.

  • @PaulSchuster-yj4zb
    @PaulSchuster-yj4zb 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Growing up in Louisville during this time, Ali/Cassius, was such a pleasure and source of real pride for everyone who lived there.
    "The Louisville Lip"

  • @vailima49aston99
    @vailima49aston99 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Ali was the GREATEST EVER!!

  • @erichall465
    @erichall465 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ali trashes🗑 but he never fought in the ring😅😅😅

  • @CT2507
    @CT2507 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What fools. They should have stopped the fight and have Listons gloves examined right away! Most stupid sport there is.

  • @frederickcook87
    @frederickcook87 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really think at this point “draft dodger” shouldn’t be spoken about this Man. Are we still advocating serving a country that made you a second class citizen while demanding you serve in its military?

  • @nazlone
    @nazlone วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was not a fight of Ali against Sunny.It was a fight which set the pace for the freedom of the black slave from the white master.

  • @JoaopauloSilvacaetano
    @JoaopauloSilvacaetano 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As pessoas fazem parecer que Ali venceu fácil,quando não foi bem assim,a luta foi dura

  • @maziochendu5258
    @maziochendu5258 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Well if you want to lose your money
    Then bet on sonny ( dummy )"
    ( Ofcourse he wasn't allowed to say that to a white man - in the 1960s 😂)

    • @GregoryShakir
      @GregoryShakir 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ali was a student of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad. All the fear of white people was out of Ali , Malcolm and those of us who followed Mr. Muhammad

  • @JoaopauloSilvacaetano
    @JoaopauloSilvacaetano 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A rumores que sonny entregou umas das lutas

  • @ReynaldoMonzon-b3o
    @ReynaldoMonzon-b3o 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    He was really no match for Cassius Clay

  • @Demos_Kratos_World
    @Demos_Kratos_World วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's what you get for cheating..

  • @myoplex1
    @myoplex1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How it is not more obvious even to casual fans that Liston threw BOTH FIGHTS to Ali is beyond me. Liston took a dive for Ali

  • @mmb1487
    @mmb1487 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ali really Did back up all that trash talk and knock fools out Ali the Greatest Ever

  • @mac1-nf6ic
    @mac1-nf6ic วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mafia Liston and his death, phantom punch it was all very iffy, saying that Ali was superb

  • @dolphsantitho5301
    @dolphsantitho5301 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That weak little punch wasnt enough for Liston to be nocked dawn like that...that fight was rigged

    • @hansolo9585
      @hansolo9585 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve seen cases of fighters getting KO’d from a punch they didn’t expect

    • @jimbyrne2328
      @jimbyrne2328 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Both Liston fights were fixed. Pretty obvious.

  • @fibonaccisrazor
    @fibonaccisrazor 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I believe that this version of Ali could even have beaten Mike Tyson. But only this version. Tyson was insurmountable, but at the time of this Liston match Ali had peak intelligence and peak power, the intelligence giving him that miniscule edge over Tyson.
    Both legends and simultaneous GOATs

    • @wademcintyre1621
      @wademcintyre1621 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This version of ali could only beat tyson. Every version could beat tyson except Parkinson ali!

  • @kingdomofanimaria
    @kingdomofanimaria 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:32

  • @westyraviz
    @westyraviz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Liston was a cheat.

  • @ianmcfadden5450
    @ianmcfadden5450 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jake paul ? Wot a joke !

  • @scottwalters8702
    @scottwalters8702 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fixed fight

  • @RobRoyBoaz
    @RobRoyBoaz 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To whoever uploaded this video, please get your facts correct. He was not Muhammad Ali at that time as he had not yet converted. He was, and the history books will show he was Cassius Clay.

  • @michaels7566
    @michaels7566 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I always thought Tyson in his prime would best Ali in his. After watching this footage I think Ali was truly the greatest.

  • @leebrown6376
    @leebrown6376 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If he keeps talking jive Clay will get him in 5
    If he wants some more he’ll get him in 4

  • @clifforddriver9434
    @clifforddriver9434 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sonny Liston was nothing more than a placeholder. He became champion by beating Floyd Patterson. Sonny Liston was nothing but hot air. Rocky Marciono had just retired. Liston had no credentials whatsoever. Stop it

    • @toddblickenstaff607
      @toddblickenstaff607 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Liston lost only 4 times in his entire career counting 2nd Ali fight (questionable loss-topic for another day ). Sonny defeated all comers including formidable Cleveland Williams twice (whom George Foreman called one of the three hardest punchers he ever saw/trained with). George, who also trained with Sonny, also said that Liston was the only fighter that he had ever been in the ring with who could back him up. Joe Louis at ringside called Sonny the greatest ever the night Liston dethroned Floyd Patterson for the heavyweight championship. Read what Sonny’s contemporaries said about him. He could knock fighters out with his 84-inch jab as an offensive tool. If Ali had not come along, Liston could have ruled the division for the duration of the 1960s. Liston could have beaten Frazier with similar results to Foreman/Frazier (if Frazier had been willing to fight him in the late 1960s---no slighting Smokin' Joe--nobody wanted to fight Liston). In his prime Liston would have cut through today's heavyweights like a knife through butter.

  • @MM-ig1iv
    @MM-ig1iv 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How's it controversial? He clearly beat his ass.. over and done with.

  • @RareMan-d3w
    @RareMan-d3w 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Liston was bum, never defended his belts, he is like andy ruiz, he win the belts and lost it in the same year, so come on guys don’t make him great fighter when he win against no one

    • @shermanbyas9726
      @shermanbyas9726 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Liston defended his title twice. He won a rematch against Patterson and lost the title to Clay. He lost the rematch to Ali a year later. Never fought for the title again.

    • @RareMan-d3w
      @RareMan-d3w 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ okay then you agree with me, he win the belt and lost it directly 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @akashnadar1449
      @akashnadar1449 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@RareMan-d3wclear you only know him only from title fights he would have been champion in 1958 if not for Patterson shamelessly avoiding him

    • @CocaineCowboyJones
      @CocaineCowboyJones 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@RareMan-d3wyou're just an Ali meat rider

    • @tylerchampion8056
      @tylerchampion8056 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      If you knew diddly squat about history of boxing you would know it was common knowledge that liston was the uncrowned champ for 4 years but no one would give him a fight...comments like these are hilarious to people who know boxing..I don't mean to sound rude but to call him a bum is downright foolish bud.. the only person to really ever beat him is a young prime ali?!

  • @ianmckenzie1610
    @ianmckenzie1610 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ali wasn't a draft dodger he was a conscientious objector .

  • @matthew-jy5jp
    @matthew-jy5jp 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The video they show of Mohammed Ali being shot at that person is not sunny listed that is a legendary well-known actor of that time

    • @buschovski1
      @buschovski1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yup def not Sonny

    • @davidgurk3229
      @davidgurk3229 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, that's from the 1977 film "The Greatest". Ali played himself. Roger Mosley played Liston. So that guy was Mosley.