It's not "sad" that he lost his prime years to politics, it's criminal what was done to him by his blood thirsty country. And his refusal to bend his knee and betray his conscience to the war mongers remains his greatest victory in or out of the ring. An incredible athlete but, more importantly, a great man.
What people don't realise is many of his career highlights, rumble in the jungle, thriller in manilla, they all came after his prime. He basically solidified his legacy with the weaker version of himself
I wouldn't call that Ali weaker than Ali in his prime around 65-67. But he was more experienced, though visibly slower with hand and foot he still had good speed and a lot more ring experience
The narrator is delusional, liston did not throw the fight and because we know the FBI is so credible right? My assessment and conclusion would be that the narrator is was a big Sonny Liston fan and a conspiracy theorist
We admired Ali both in the ring and outside it. Ali's legacy will never be paralleled. He was the true champion in everything. We are grateful forever to this wonderful man who lightened up everybody's life.
As Angelo Dundee said, "we never got to see the best of Ali. What we saw was plenty, but we missed most of his true prime year's." (25 - 28, the nexus between ability and experience for most athletes).
Think about this, Ali was ready to give it all up, the money, the title, the fame, for what he believed. HE WAS ONLY 25 YEARS OLD!!! He was always fighting for more than most of us realized. And came out victorious even when he stacked the odds against himself.
I fully agree with you that their will never be another fighter that can exceed Muhammad Ali record or talent, Muhammad Ali has raised the boxing record to such a high level that its almost impossible for any boxer that will match that or come close to it or exceed that record or the talent Muhammad Ali had!!!!! May Allah almighty grant him a beautiful place in heaven!!!!! Ameen sumameen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!
Ali was more than a fast boxer with great IQ he was also one tough guy, he had so much heart and determination coupled with a great chin you could say he had it all GREATEST OF ALL TIME
@@TravisMcGee151mike tyson would be toast after the 5th round in a fight with Ali...he would have to find Ali 1st...n he always had trouble with big fighters with long strong jabs that can fight on they back foot...
thank you…👍 Ali was my big idol, to this day. When we were little boys, we all wanted to be like Ali. Back then I collected all the stamps with Ali on them that I could get my hands on.😅 Today, in quiet hours, I still look at the stamp collection with Ali.😅
Ali had a very limited vocabulary so he was a 1-dimensional bullshit dispenser with his favorite subject being himself. His boxing skills were badly flawed. He lacked any inside game and body attack. He lacked defensive skills to get away from left hooks and got hurt and dropped by left hooks from guys as small as 185 pounds. He fought far fewer fights than many, but was hurt far worse than almost any. He was left totally disabled -- both mentally and physically.
@@sriwija8755 Clay was widely outpunched in the finals so his gold medal award was corrupt. Ali wasn't 3 times world champion. Ali lost to a guy (Neon Leon Spinks) with 6 wins who wasn't the legitimate champion when Ali was given a gift verdict over him. Larry Holmes WAS the legitimate world champion at the time. Holmes blew Spinks away like he was an average middleweight. Then Holmes gave Ali a brutal boxing lesson -- but Ali was a dull and slow student whose basics were flawed -- as Holmes noted.
One of a kind. I never knew how tough he was until I watched him fighting Frazier. Most don't think of him that way. He's the cavalier the matador. He was also as tough as they come. Those body shots by Frazier make me wince to watch them. True champion. In that era, we had the one time ever privilege of seeing four champions in their peak fighting it out. Greatest era for the division and he stood at the top.
Fraizer Career record (all fights): 32-4 (not too impressive) Career record real heavyweight fights 200×2 lbs: 13-4 Career record real superheavyweight fights 215×2 lbs: 1-2 Frazier fought 20x against bums: KO'ratio 90% Frazier fought 17x against non-bums (that's very good): KO'ratio 52% and of these 17 ALL were natural cruisers except 2 ( Buster Mathis (win) and Foreman (2x loss) Frazier outweighed his opponents in 21 fights: KO'Ratio 95% (he KO'ed all of them but 1) Frazier was outweighed in 15 fights: KO'ratio 46% (featherfist) Median weight of Frazier's KO'victim: 197 lbs (cruiser) Frazier boxed 9 times against natural heavies (that's good) He scored 4 KOs (featherfist) of which 3 were against bums ·Don Smith (11-7) ·Ron Stander (37-21) ·Mel Turnbow (8-13) and 1 KO (round 11) was against a non-bum ·Buster Mathis (30-4, 61% KO'ratio), a very fat boxer. No wonder Frazier could KO him in the 11th round: It was the first time that Buster went more than 10 rounds and already the previous 10-rounder of Buster was merely a split decision against bum ·Bob Stallings (31-32, 201 lbs). Frazier never fought some of the better boxers of his time like Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc Joe Frazier KO'ed 14 opponents within 3 rounds (that's pretty good, considering he had only 37 fights). But it turns out that ALL of them were bums (median career record of these bums 11-23) except for 2 opponents: ·Bob Foster 188 lbs (= cruiser) and ·Dave Zyglewycz 190 lbs (= cruiser) whom tiny Frazier (hold your hat) out-weighed, out-reached and out-talled. Dave Zyglewycz has been called "the worst guy to ever get a title shot" and once you check his wins (ONLY bums, median record 10-16) you will have to agree.
@@joetrie Sometimes styles make fights. Every time he fought Ali it was competitive and he beat him once. All I'm saying is he was tough, and he attacked Ali's body in a way that would've wilted most fighters I think. Sick shots man go back and watch the first one plus he was motivated. He really didn't like Ali.
It's sad, he was still improving. He had pretty much cleaned out the division anyway but we would have seen the Frazier fight sooner and I think Ali would have won it instead of losing like he did.
@@GloveWarriors ...That first Ali-Frazier fight was extremely close. Smokin' Joe did not win unanimously! I saw the fight first hand. Frazier was hospitalized for approximately six weeks afterwards.
Greatest heavyweight boxer ever, beat more great heavyweights than any other champion by a mile. But what I also liked about Ali was the pre fight trash talk, the post fight analysis, the training footage, interacting with his fans, and his tv appearances/interviews, just so entertaining. What rarely gets mentioned about Ali , is how mentally tough he was, he fought all over the world against boxers in their own back yards, he was never intimidated by champions who were supposed to be unbeatable, Liston and Foreman. And he even fought his own government and won.
His title was stripped because he fought his own government, not just his title but his boxing licence and passport to try and stop him from earning a living.He fought them through the courts, leading to the supreme court where he won his case.@@someoneelse.2252
@@someoneelse.2252 Then he proved to the world that the war mongering government at the time were wrong so they gave him back his license and won the title 2 times more to become the greatest champion in history in many eras.
@Ahmed-mr4xo ... "Ali fought all over the world against boxers in their own back yards" Canada, England and Germany doesn't qualify as all over the world. And Ali fought 5th rate bums like Brian London, who didn't have the ghost of a prayer. Heavyweight Champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine, fought world title fights in Russia, Latvia, USA, Canada, Germany, Poland, and England versus the top fighters in the world from those countries. His country is the most war-torn in the world, so it may be years before he fights there again, if ever. Ali was in tragic decline at Usyk's age. The Ukrainian is a veteran of 371 amateur and professional fights.
With Ali moving like that for 15 rounds, popping the jab with quick combinations, no one (holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Holmes, Fury, Wilder, etc) would have beaten him. PERIOD
His legs were strong and gave him a solid foundation to deliver combinations. Nolan Ryan taught deliver r a pitch up from your feet through your legs..just the way Ali punched
In the lower weightclasses you have seen guys with very high skill levels like Ali. Just not in the heavyweight division like that. Ali moved like a middleweight or even a welterweight in his prime.
IMHO, Ali should have retired after the Frazier fight in Manila in late 1975. He had nothing else to prove - he really *WAS* The Greatest. The Manila fight damaged him (he said that those 14 rounds were the nearest to dying he'd been) & as a result he lost his speed. Thereafter he started taking heavy punches which he'd have skipped away from in his earlier years. To see him in his later years was sad & depressing. You can call it what you want but Ali suffered mightily from the effects of those heavy hits 1976 ~ 1980 & his health and wellbeing were seriously damaged.
He is the greatest athlete of all time. The average person would take one solid hit and call for a paramedic. In the toughest sport of all he was the best. When he took out the monster Foreman the world of sport stood in awe. I will never forget when the commentator said: ‘He’s done it, the great man has done it!”
That was David Frost on the call for the UK broadcast. I think "colonel" Bob Sheridan's call on the KO was the most hair raising and exciting call ever.
@@cabura-X Many Ali fans are so enamored with him that they carry things too far. I understand, I was the same way as a kid. At 68 naturally I think differently. I have nothing against Ali but like all of us, he was a flawed human being. His fans won't hear of it, they borderline worship him, which is a sin. The issue I have regarding the military suspension relates to life at the time. If you weren't alive then maybe it doesn't 'feel' the same to you. My brother was in Viet Nam, I almost had to go. We all knew guys who didn't return or returned badly injured. Many still suffer today from physical/psychological damage. At the time we didn't know that the war was based on evil greed. We believed that an individual was an unpatriotic coward if they wouldn't go. Poor people had no option, they all went including poor blacks. 'Famous' people went, many well-known star athletes had their careers interrupted by war, but they went. I'm not sure how I feel today about his claim of religious exemption. All Christians could have claimed the same thing, the 5th commandment says, 'Thou shall not kill'. Based upon that it seems Christians could have objected, but I don't know anyone who did. The bottom line was, if you were poor, middle class or upper middle class, you went. If you were patriotic, you went. Ali is the only one that I know of that claimed religious exemption, although I know there were others. Many left the country, went to Canada to 'hide'. When soldiers are routinely dying in war and someone refuses to go, it's understandable that most would consider them to be cowardly. I heard a lot of people say that Ali didn't mind fighting and hurting people for money in the ring, so his excuse seemed shallow to them. I don't know his heart, but that's how it was at the time.
Ali was vulnerable to that left hook. Banks caught him with that quick left hook and floored him. Cooper also floored him with it. Partially explains why Frazier was such a fearsome challenge with him. Frazier had that huge left hook just gave Ali fits.
But you just stop there, ie that Ali was vulnerable to a left hook. But, what were the fights taken in their entity? They showed Ali's dominance and class which were way above the others.
Some are trying to be boxing pundits without really knowing anything about boxing. Have you heard any boxing critic, sports-caster or boxer claiming that Ali was vulnerable to left hooks. This guy is inventing his own analysis of boxing without any reasoning.
@milwaukeegregg He had the help of a US congress that banned the guy for 3 years. Hardly in his prime any longer. Say, who's your favorite to win the Stanley cup 🏒 ? I know you know this. Isn't Tiger Woods a phenomenal golfer⛳️
@@milwaukeegreggAli prime mid 60's--66 vs cooper joe Frazier wouldn't have Landed half those hooks on Ali that he did in 71 .. joe would get boxed up like Tetris
Ali in his prime was untouchable in the 60s the three year ban he had ruined his legacy when he resumed he wasn’t the same elusive fighter and started taking to many head shots which later turned into parkingsons legend Rip
The US government took away his prime years. It's disgraceful what they did to Ali. They also made Joe Louis destitute after he had given many purses of his towards the war effort and Joe had to come back way past his prime and get destroyed by the beast Marciano.
Those 3.5 years lost because of his righteous refusal to kill any Vietcong were his prime years. Frazier would have wilted in front of a prime Ali ! So will Foreman and Tyson. In fact, so will any other heavyweight on earth, including Joe Louis and Dempsey. Ali was, indeed, the greatest !
His skill in those prime years was just... Phenomenal. I am in awe each time I watch. People like to speculate how eg Ali Vs Tyson would have gone, to me there is no question, Ali took apart some very Tyson-esque fighters (noticeably Liston) during this time.
Ali's speed combined with his reach (78") made him extraordinarily dangerous, and with his power and precision to match, it's no wonder he made ever other fighter during his prime look slow, clumsy and outmatched.
George Chuvalo and Doug Jones were both good contenders. I have heard that Cleveland Williams gave him a good fight, I say he got a whoopin. I can remember as a 5,6,and 7year old.my dad waking me up at 2.30am and listening to some of those fights on a scratchy little transistor and struggle to stay awake. I was usually out to it by the 3rd round. Living down in New Zealand was misfortuned by the time lines.
That right at 14:34 “It was a right to Liston’s jaw and it was a beauty. It shook Liston to his shoe tops” according to former champion James Braddock who was at ringside. “That shot shivered Liston. He blinked his eyes three times, like he was trying to clear his head”, per trainer Chickie Ferrara who was watching closely near Liston’s corner. The knockout punch was 38 seconds later and it was a temple shot that lifted Liston’s left foot off the canvas. A real knockout, not a fix.
This is a very good video. I m old@ seen this in real time@ in my opinion this is a good assessment. ,,,i would like to ask, Is there any footage of the Charlie Powell fight? I seen it one time ,it is off the hook in speed. Quicker than the London flurry.,, blinding speed.
Yes he is the greatest in my book. His reflexes suffered in the time between the Folley fight and the Quarry fight. He lost just enough in that time to hurt him. He was a great boxer and a great human being.
Ali was still Cassius Clay at this point. I saw the fight live on B&W British TV as a ten year old. Nobody had seen anyone like Clay before. However, many say that if Henry Cooper hadn't had the eye tissue weakness, he would have won this fight, as he was the better boxer. We'll never know....:) :) Both were great gentlemen and a credit to the sport.
Ali & Cooper became great friends, Sli visiting the Coopers at their home and having meals with them when he came to UK. Henry in turn visited Ali in the US & they both greatly appreciated & respected each other.
That 2nd Liston fight will always be shrouded in doubt. Liston gets up and then proceeds to duck all of Ali's follow-up punches before referee Jersey Joe Walcott stopped it. It looks like it was a fixed fight.
@@GloveWarriors There was a camera directly above Ali and Liston. It shows Liston's head jarred as Ali hit him. It was a solid punch. Liston did some acting after that, but he was hit and he fell -- a flash knockdown. The camera angle from ringside didn't catch it. As far as a fix is concerned -- I don't see why it would have been fixed in Ali's favor. Liston was the one with underworld connections. It's hard to know, 60 years later, what race relations consisted of at that time. I remember the atmosphere very well. Until the Civil Rights Movement began, black athletes were respectful of white society. Now, Ali's comments are amusing to one and all, but then, white people scowled in disapproval. Ali didn't "know his place" -- he didn't play the game. With the "long, hot summers" underway, and the Nation of Islam arousing fear and hatred in white people, Ali was seen as an "uppity n*****." Even a lot of black people were disapproving. They saw Ali as someone who would bring down the wrath of white authority on all African-Americans. Really, all Ali was doing was talking to his opponents the way black guys talk to each other -- "playing the dozens," they used to call it. But it wasn't something you did in front of white people. Ali didn't care. I just don't see how all this could have led to a fix that guaranteed Ali the win and not Liston.
Ali was at his peak in the first Liston fight. He was never better than that. He moved like a gazelle, Liston could barely hit him. If it was not for the eye problems he would have taken every round against a guy who everyone thought was one of the very best in history. I would have liked to have seen that Ali against Tyson from 1985-89. Zora Folley said that Ali did things in the ring that no one else could come close to doing.
Emmanuel Stewart said Ali was the best. He beat more great fighters in their primes than any other. He also fought them two sometimes 3 times. Emmanuel Stewart knew a thing or two about boxing.
Don’t see any heavyweight beating 60s Ali, too elusive, too athletic, too quick and reflexes off the charts. Nice pull counter, check left hook, amazing feints with great IQ.
Dude what? Liston did not throw the fight. Read all the comments and watch all the interviews from the top names of boxing who were there that day. They were like "we saw the punch Ali hit him with. He took it just right. That's all it takes. Dude was out." Liston pretty much walked into Ali's right hook. Going into it double the force. Caught him on the chin, rattled his brain, KO.
Are you joking Scott? I was a interested 8 year old boy when Cassius Clay fought Liston the first time .Ali was the boxer who revolutionised the sport.
We will mever see another Ali and his skills even the iron Mike adored him to the extent that he paid revenge for him after he was beaten by Holmes. If i may ask is the heavyweight div exciting now?😮😮😮😮😅😊
Scary fact: he taunting his Opponent by talking while dodging, Near prime ali is on another level, imagine how good he was in his 25-28 so sad his hypocrite goverment atm stole it
What no one knows is that Sonny Liston never had a birth certificate. He may well have been in his early forties in this fight? I also agree that he was one of the best. George Foreman also agreed!
Frazier 1w, Ali1w, Frazier/Ali 1 Draw. And Ali was Telling his Corner between the 14th and 15th round of The Thrilla in Manilla to "Take em off, Im done, Take my gloves off, im done!"
The announcer exclaims:"Ali is down for the FIRST time in his career!!" But in a half-CENTURY of frequent fights on the avenues of centralwest Detroit and inside of Clara S. Barton Elementary school,Anthony B. Tucker has NEVER been taken OFF of HIS feet!! 🥶
To be fair to Clay/Ali (and some of his opponents), before, during and after his ring prime; despite the general claims of untouchability due to his unparallelled speed in this excellent documentary; Ali was indeed sometimes tagged with heavy shots by e.g., Liston, Cooper, Folley, Patterson and co., although less than almost all fighters at any weight. But what is overlooked way too often is that despite his ring style and 'looks' Clay/Ali also had a 'granite' chin so absorbed and shook off head and body shots quickly and incredibly well then almost always went on to win even against heavy-handed hitters like Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Bonavena, Chuvalo, Quarry, Shavers, Norton and co. He never lost in his prime, not just due to speed, but because of that chin.
It's not "sad" that he lost his prime years to politics, it's criminal what was done to him by his blood thirsty country. And his refusal to bend his knee and betray his conscience to the war mongers remains his greatest victory in or out of the ring. An incredible athlete but, more importantly, a great man.
❤exactly well said and well REASONED.
His convictions were visionary. He disliked going to kill people who never did ANYTHING to deserved death.
What people don't realise is many of his career highlights, rumble in the jungle, thriller in manilla, they all came after his prime. He basically solidified his legacy with the weaker version of himself
After foreman no one has a better second career than Ali
I wouldn't call that Ali weaker than Ali in his prime around 65-67. But he was more experienced, though visibly slower with hand and foot he still had good speed and a lot more ring experience
@umarb7325 ...Ali was never in his prime.
@@brucescott4261You're right. He was exiled at 25 years old. Never had a prime
The narrator is delusional, liston did not throw the fight and because we know the FBI is so credible right? My assessment and conclusion would be that the narrator is was a big Sonny Liston fan and a conspiracy theorist
Muhammad Ali is a phenomenal athlete with skill and heart.
Ali is the greatest ever.
Ali is my hero.
❤agreed 100%
AND MINE TOO!!! THE US ARMY dishonored him for a lost war in Vietnam. Look now, all communist and happy people.
We admired Ali both in the ring and outside it. Ali's legacy will never be paralleled. He was the true champion in everything. We are grateful forever to this wonderful man who lightened up everybody's life.
100%
As Angelo Dundee said, "we never got to see the best of Ali. What we saw was plenty, but we missed most of his true prime year's." (25 - 28, the nexus between ability and experience for most athletes).
Absolutely right
Think about this, Ali was ready to give it all up, the money, the title, the fame, for what he believed. HE WAS ONLY 25 YEARS OLD!!!
He was always fighting for more than most of us realized. And came out victorious even when he stacked the odds against himself.
@@kcash6359 Anything to keep from his duty.
I fully agree with you that their will never be another fighter that can exceed Muhammad Ali record or talent, Muhammad Ali has raised the boxing record to such a high level that its almost impossible for any boxer that will match that or come close to it or exceed that record or the talent Muhammad Ali had!!!!!
May Allah almighty grant him a beautiful place in heaven!!!!!
Ameen sumameen ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!
Ali was more than a fast boxer with great IQ he was also one tough guy, he had so much heart and determination coupled with a great chin you could say he had it all GREATEST OF ALL TIME
"Ali was more than a fast boxer with great IQ"
You mean great boxing-IQ.
In terms of pure intellect he was under 85.
Exactly
Ali was the greatest of his era. Not sure how he would do against a Mike Tyson in HIS prime or a Joe Louis. We’ll never know.
@@TravisMcGee151mike tyson would be toast after the 5th round in a fight with Ali...he would have to find Ali 1st...n he always had trouble with big fighters with long strong jabs that can fight on they back foot...
@009incher Ali's IQ was very low. And it got lower because he got hit too much.
Can you imagine what we would have seen in those years of exile......wow. YUMBAYE ALI
Thanks sir. Wonderful production. More please
thank you…👍
Ali was my big idol, to this day. When we were little boys, we all wanted to be like Ali. Back then I collected all the stamps with Ali on them that I could get my hands on.😅
Today, in quiet hours, I still look at the stamp collection with Ali.😅
His boxing skills and his talking skills were equal.... The greatest of all time.... ❤❤❤❤❤
Ali had a very limited vocabulary so he was a 1-dimensional bullshit dispenser with his favorite subject being himself. His boxing skills were badly flawed. He lacked any inside game and body attack. He lacked defensive skills to get away from left hooks and got hurt and dropped by left hooks from guys as small as 185 pounds. He fought far fewer fights than many, but was hurt far worse than almost any. He was left totally disabled -- both mentally and physically.
@@sriwija8755 Clay was widely outpunched in the finals so his gold medal award was corrupt. Ali wasn't 3 times world champion. Ali lost to a guy (Neon Leon Spinks) with 6 wins who wasn't the legitimate champion when Ali was given a gift verdict over him. Larry Holmes WAS the legitimate world champion at the time. Holmes blew Spinks away like he was an average middleweight. Then Holmes gave Ali a brutal boxing lesson -- but Ali was a dull and slow student whose basics were flawed -- as Holmes noted.
@@bobgarrett7134 ...ok...i can say on more ...
@@sriwija8755 Holmes was more -- and talked less.
One of a kind. I never knew how tough he was until I watched him fighting Frazier. Most don't think of him that way. He's the cavalier the matador. He was also as tough as they come. Those body shots by Frazier make me wince to watch them. True champion. In that era, we had the one time ever privilege of seeing four champions in their peak fighting it out. Greatest era for the division and he stood at the top.
Fraizer
Career record (all fights): 32-4
(not too impressive)
Career record real heavyweight fights
200×2 lbs: 13-4
Career record real superheavyweight fights 215×2 lbs: 1-2
Frazier fought 20x against bums: KO'ratio 90%
Frazier fought 17x against non-bums
(that's very good): KO'ratio 52%
and of these 17 ALL were natural cruisers except 2 ( Buster Mathis (win) and Foreman (2x loss)
Frazier outweighed his opponents in 21 fights: KO'Ratio 95% (he KO'ed all of them but 1)
Frazier was outweighed in 15 fights: KO'ratio 46% (featherfist)
Median weight of Frazier's KO'victim: 197 lbs (cruiser)
Frazier boxed 9 times against natural heavies (that's good)
He scored 4 KOs (featherfist)
of which 3 were against bums
·Don Smith (11-7)
·Ron Stander (37-21)
·Mel Turnbow (8-13)
and 1 KO (round 11) was against a non-bum
·Buster Mathis (30-4, 61% KO'ratio), a very fat boxer. No wonder Frazier could KO him in the 11th round: It was the first time that Buster went more than 10 rounds and already the previous 10-rounder of Buster was merely a split decision against bum ·Bob Stallings (31-32, 201 lbs).
Frazier never fought some of the better boxers of his time like Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc
Joe Frazier KO'ed 14 opponents within 3 rounds (that's pretty good, considering he had only 37 fights).
But it turns out that ALL of them were bums (median career record of these bums 11-23) except for 2 opponents:
·Bob Foster 188 lbs (= cruiser) and
·Dave Zyglewycz 190 lbs (= cruiser) whom tiny Frazier (hold your hat) out-weighed, out-reached and out-talled.
Dave Zyglewycz has been called "the worst guy to ever get a title shot" and once you check his wins (ONLY bums, median record 10-16) you will have to agree.
@@joetrie Sometimes styles make fights. Every time he fought Ali it was competitive and he beat him once. All I'm saying is he was tough, and he attacked Ali's body in a way that would've wilted most fighters I think. Sick shots man go back and watch the first one plus he was motivated. He really didn't like Ali.
Beautiful boxer unbeatable at his best and tough competitor when his best was absent.
Great vid! Well put together, and well scripted and narrated. 👍🏽👍🏽
Tell it like it is, Muhammad. You the man!
They robbed 3 years of his absolute prime. That's 10 fights. He was never the same after
It's sad, he was still improving. He had pretty much cleaned out the division anyway but we would have seen the Frazier fight sooner and I think Ali would have won it instead of losing like he did.
Well, that is the truth.
@@GloveWarriors ...That first Ali-Frazier fight was extremely close. Smokin' Joe did not win unanimously! I saw the fight first hand. Frazier was hospitalized for approximately six weeks afterwards.
This version of Ali beats everybody.
22:00 is awesome. The speed and variety of his feinting overloaded the opponents brain to stop functioning and he just stand there taking punches lol
Greatest heavyweight boxer ever, beat more great heavyweights than any other champion by a mile. But what I also liked about Ali was the pre fight trash talk, the post fight analysis, the training footage, interacting with his fans, and his tv appearances/interviews, just so entertaining. What rarely gets mentioned about Ali , is how mentally tough he was, he fought all over the world against boxers in their own back yards, he was never intimidated by champions who were supposed to be unbeatable, Liston and Foreman. And he even fought his own government and won.
ALLAH u AKBAR
He fought his own Gov't and won...?. What planet are from?. His title was stripped.
His title was stripped because he fought his own government, not just his title but his boxing licence and passport to try and stop him from earning a living.He fought them through the courts, leading to the supreme court where he won his case.@@someoneelse.2252
@@someoneelse.2252 Then he proved to the world that the war mongering government at the time were wrong so they gave him back his license and won the title 2 times more to become the greatest champion in history in many eras.
@Ahmed-mr4xo ... "Ali fought all over the world against boxers in their own back yards"
Canada, England and Germany doesn't qualify as all over the world. And Ali fought 5th rate bums like Brian London, who didn't have the ghost of a prayer. Heavyweight Champion Oleksandr Usyk of Ukraine, fought world title fights in Russia, Latvia, USA, Canada, Germany, Poland, and England versus the top fighters in the world from those countries. His country is the most war-torn in the world, so it may be years before he fights there again, if ever. Ali was in tragic decline at Usyk's age. The Ukrainian is a veteran of 371 amateur and professional fights.
With Ali moving like that for 15 rounds, popping the jab with quick combinations, no one (holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Holmes, Fury, Wilder, etc) would have beaten him. PERIOD
Tyson , Holyfield.
@@bellavia5😂
@@bellavia5NO, just NO
Ahahaha
@@Only1Kizz yes, just yes.
The lightning devastating punches makes Ali's d'greatest.. 😘
Great take. Thank you for putting this together.
Speed was Ali ultimate gift from the beginning that’s what made him great!
His legs were strong and gave him a solid foundation to deliver combinations. Nolan Ryan taught deliver r a pitch up from your feet through your legs..just the way Ali punched
Muhammad Ali was great boxer
❤❤Muhammad Ali❤️❤️
His prime was from his professional debut, until his ban in 1967. In those few years, I've never seen a better boxer. Ever.
Well said and well REASONED
How many have you seen? I've been watching since 1963...
In the lower weightclasses you have seen guys with very high skill levels like Ali. Just not in the heavyweight division like that. Ali moved like a middleweight or even a welterweight in his prime.
@mrkipling2201 ...Ali was never in his prime.
@@beatlejim64 ...Really?
He was a genius, born to box, but like most geniuses flawed.
All people are flawed, that goes without saying.
Muhammad Ali was three-time undisputed heavyweight champion of the World. Ali was the GOAT.
The sad part is the 4 year ban which robbed us of a chunk of Ali's prime years. We are left with so many what ifs.
He was Super Ali up until 76, check the record.
IMHO, Ali should have retired after the Frazier fight in Manila in late 1975. He had nothing else to prove - he really *WAS* The Greatest.
The Manila fight damaged him (he said that those 14 rounds were the nearest to dying he'd been) & as a result he lost his speed. Thereafter he started taking heavy punches which he'd have skipped away from in his earlier years. To see him in his later years was sad & depressing. You can call it what you want but Ali suffered mightily from the effects of those heavy hits 1976 ~ 1980 & his health and wellbeing were seriously damaged.
He is the greatest athlete of all time. The average person would take one solid hit and call for a paramedic. In the toughest sport of all he was the best. When he took out the monster Foreman the world of sport stood in awe. I will never forget when the commentator said: ‘He’s done it, the great man has done it!”
That was David Frost on the call for the UK broadcast. I think "colonel" Bob Sheridan's call on the KO was the most hair raising and exciting call ever.
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Foreman had a monster punch but wasn’t exactly the most skilled boxer.
Better than Jim Thorpe?...Bill Russell?...Jim Brown?...Don't think so...
In fact, the commentator said "this is the most JOYOUS moment in boxing history" when Ali ko'd Foreman.
Actually, we never saw Ali box at his prime... The U.S. govt stole those years from him.
Other men gave their lives.
for what?
@@cabura-X To fulfill their duty.
@@cabura-X Many Ali fans are so enamored with him that they carry things too far. I understand, I was the same way as a kid. At 68 naturally I think differently. I have nothing against Ali but like all of us, he was a flawed human being. His fans won't hear of it, they borderline worship him, which is a sin.
The issue I have regarding the military suspension relates to life at the time. If you weren't alive then maybe it doesn't 'feel' the same to you. My brother was in Viet Nam, I almost had to go. We all knew guys who didn't return or returned badly injured. Many still suffer today from physical/psychological damage.
At the time we didn't know that the war was based on evil greed. We believed that an individual was an unpatriotic coward if they wouldn't go. Poor people had no option, they all went including poor blacks. 'Famous' people went, many well-known star athletes had their careers interrupted by war, but they went. I'm not sure how I feel today about his claim of religious exemption.
All Christians could have claimed the same thing, the 5th commandment says, 'Thou shall not kill'. Based upon that it seems Christians could have objected, but I don't know anyone who did. The bottom line was, if you were poor, middle class or upper middle class, you went. If you were patriotic, you went. Ali is the only one that I know of that claimed religious exemption, although I know there were others. Many left the country, went to Canada to 'hide'.
When soldiers are routinely dying in war and someone refuses to go, it's understandable that most would consider them to be cowardly. I heard a lot of people say that Ali didn't mind fighting and hurting people for money in the ring, so his excuse seemed shallow to them. I don't know his heart, but that's how it was at the time.
@@MrMarco855 to who?
There’s a video on TH-cam called “Muhammad Ali in action” it shows a young Cassius clay fighting. I never knew how solid of a counter puncher he was.
Prime Ali is the GREATEST Heavyweight that has ever lived no doubt but his kryptonite was the left hook
Greatest boxer of all times. Ali would have made mince meat out of present day heavyweights- lennox Lewis and above. RIP champ.
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I don't think the world ever saw the prime, Muhammad Ali!!! It would have been something to behold... What a shame?
At 2:33 I didn’t even see the punch. I just saw his opponents head buck back. that’s one of the fastest punches I’ve seen.
Ali was vulnerable to that left hook. Banks caught him with that quick left hook and floored him. Cooper also floored him with it. Partially explains why Frazier was such a fearsome challenge with him. Frazier had that huge left hook just gave Ali fits.
Ali cooper 2 66 prime nobody floors him in his prime
The myth that Ali was unhittable is garbage. He never learned how to box....@@active.7universal
But you just stop there, ie that Ali was vulnerable to a left hook. But, what were the fights taken in their entity? They showed Ali's dominance and class which were way above the others.
@mmcniel777 ... Ali was never knocked out from those left hooks, PERIOD!!!
Some are trying to be boxing pundits without really knowing anything about boxing. Have you heard any boxing critic, sports-caster or boxer claiming that Ali was vulnerable to left hooks. This guy is inventing his own analysis of boxing without any reasoning.
21:50 Ali's opponent looked like Redd Foxx in "Sanford and Son" when Redd Foxx would throw punches in the air like he really wanted to fight! LOL!
Muhammad Ali, Aka the butterfly and the bee.
No one in Ali's prime could have beaten him period! Just to fast & elusive to be run down & defeated!
Smokin Joe did...............
@milwaukeegregg He had the help of a US congress that banned the guy for 3 years. Hardly in his prime any longer. Say, who's your favorite to win the Stanley cup 🏒 ?
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@@milwaukeegreggAli prime mid 60's--66 vs cooper joe Frazier wouldn't have Landed half those hooks on Ali that he did in 71 .. joe would get boxed up like Tetris
He deserved to be banned... I have no pity for this draft dodger........@@EinsteinKnowedIt
Sure...lol@@active.7universal
Ali in his prime was untouchable in the 60s the three year ban he had ruined his legacy when he resumed he wasn’t the same elusive fighter and started taking to many head shots which later turned into parkingsons legend Rip
The US government took away his prime years. It's disgraceful what they did to Ali. They also made Joe Louis destitute after he had given many purses of his towards the war effort and Joe had to come back way past his prime and get destroyed by the beast Marciano.
Único irrepetible genial espectacular es y será el mejor de todos los tiempos...
The Greatest.
Clar!!
The best of all time!!
Great analysis. I enjoyed watching this video.
Greatest of all time
GREAT FOOTAGE, THANK YOU.👍🥊🥇🏆💵👑
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Those 3.5 years lost because of his righteous refusal to kill any Vietcong were his prime years. Frazier would have wilted in front of a prime Ali ! So will Foreman and Tyson. In fact, so will any other heavyweight on earth, including Joe Louis and Dempsey.
Ali was, indeed, the greatest !
He fought the best in his prime and out of his prime...Simply the best to ever do it
Great Indeed!
Mike Tyson side that Ali in his prime was giant monster that he wouldn't ever wanted to face 😮😮
Thanks for sharing, great breakdown...!
His skill in those prime years was just... Phenomenal. I am in awe each time I watch. People like to speculate how eg Ali Vs Tyson would have gone, to me there is no question, Ali took apart some very Tyson-esque fighters (noticeably Liston) during this time.
Ali's speed combined with his reach (78") made him extraordinarily dangerous, and with his power and precision to match, it's no wonder he made ever other fighter during his prime look slow, clumsy and outmatched.
R I P Muhammad Ali greatest Boxter of times
George Chuvalo and Doug Jones were both good contenders. I have heard that Cleveland Williams gave him a good fight, I say he got a whoopin. I can remember as a 5,6,and 7year old.my dad waking me up at 2.30am and listening to some of those fights on a scratchy little transistor and struggle to stay awake. I was usually out to it by the 3rd round. Living down in New Zealand was misfortuned by the time lines.
That right at 14:34 “It was a right to Liston’s jaw and it was a beauty. It shook Liston to his shoe tops” according to former champion James Braddock who was at ringside. “That shot shivered Liston. He blinked his eyes three times, like he was trying to clear his head”, per trainer Chickie Ferrara who was watching closely near Liston’s corner. The knockout punch was 38 seconds later and it was a temple shot that lifted Liston’s left foot off the canvas. A real knockout, not a fix.
Very informative video😮
Mouhamed Ali ,nice Times or sad times hé will be Always thé best of thé ring , hé was thé king .
Ali is definitely "The Greatest"
He must be the greatest ,and he was. Of all time
The greatest my champion
This is a very good video. I m old@ seen this in real time@ in my opinion this is a good assessment. ,,,i would like to ask, Is there any footage of the Charlie Powell fight? I seen it one time ,it is off the hook in speed. Quicker than the London flurry.,, blinding speed.
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Yes he is the greatest in my book. His reflexes suffered in the time between the Folley fight and the Quarry fight. He lost just enough in that time to hurt him.
He was a great boxer and a great human being.
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Liston was in the wrong era.If it wasn't for Ali, he would have been one of the GOATs. He had all of the tools...
Ali was still Cassius Clay at this point. I saw the fight live on B&W British TV as a ten year old. Nobody had seen anyone like Clay before. However, many say that if Henry Cooper hadn't had the eye tissue weakness, he would have won this fight, as he was the better boxer. We'll never know....:) :) Both were great gentlemen and a credit to the sport.
Ali & Cooper became great friends, Sli visiting the Coopers at their home and having meals with them when he came to UK. Henry in turn visited Ali in the US & they both greatly appreciated & respected each other.
Ali was the fastest heavyweight in boxing
They stole his prime, title and his livelihood...and he still became the GREATEST! R.I.P CHAMP!
That 2nd Liston fight will always be shrouded in doubt. Liston gets up and then proceeds to duck all of Ali's follow-up punches before referee Jersey Joe Walcott stopped it. It looks like it was a fixed fight.
Totally. I would love to know what really happened.
@@GloveWarriors There was a camera directly above Ali and Liston. It shows Liston's head jarred as Ali hit him. It was a solid punch. Liston did some acting after that, but he was hit and he fell -- a flash knockdown. The camera angle from ringside didn't catch it.
As far as a fix is concerned -- I don't see why it would have been fixed in Ali's favor. Liston was the one with underworld connections. It's hard to know, 60 years later, what race relations consisted of at that time. I remember the atmosphere very well. Until the Civil Rights Movement began, black athletes were respectful of white society. Now, Ali's comments are amusing to one and all, but then, white people scowled in disapproval. Ali didn't "know his place" -- he didn't play the game. With the "long, hot summers" underway, and the Nation of Islam arousing fear and hatred in white people, Ali was seen as an "uppity n*****." Even a lot of black people were disapproving. They saw Ali as someone who would bring down the wrath of white authority on all African-Americans.
Really, all Ali was doing was talking to his opponents the way black guys talk to each other -- "playing the dozens," they used to call it. But it wasn't something you did in front of white people. Ali didn't care. I just don't see how all this could have led to a fix that guaranteed Ali the win and not Liston.
Ali was at his peak in the first Liston fight. He was never better than that. He moved like a gazelle, Liston could barely hit him. If it was not for the eye problems he would have taken every round against a guy who everyone thought was one of the very best in history. I would have liked to have seen that Ali against Tyson from 1985-89. Zora Folley said that Ali did things in the ring that no one else could come close to doing.
Amen I love Classi Clay boxing no doubt His is the Greatest of all Times!!!!!
His name is Muhammad Ali
07:52 my absolute favourite moment in boxing. Henry’s hammer.
Emmanuel Stewart said Ali was the best. He beat more great fighters in their primes than any other. He also fought them two sometimes 3 times. Emmanuel Stewart knew a thing or two about boxing.
Best ever
Don’t see any heavyweight beating 60s Ali, too elusive, too athletic, too quick and reflexes off the charts. Nice pull counter, check left hook, amazing feints with great IQ.
You are spot on. Never seen anyone like him before and very unlikely in the future too.
Dude what? Liston did not throw the fight. Read all the comments and watch all the interviews from the top names of boxing who were there that day. They were like "we saw the punch Ali hit him with. He took it just right. That's all it takes. Dude was out." Liston pretty much walked into Ali's right hook. Going into it double the force. Caught him on the chin, rattled his brain, KO.
Damnsd right Scitt. May weather the businessman didn't do anything to support Frazier earlier but showcased his pocketing of the funeral.
Are you joking Scott? I was a interested 8 year old boy when Cassius Clay fought Liston the first time
.Ali was the boxer who revolutionised the sport.
The crazy part is we missed most of his prime because he was banned/suspended
I chose the GREAEST - nicely done
Liston's head movements. could cause him to feel dizzy.
We will mever see another Ali and his skills even the iron Mike adored him to the extent that he paid revenge for him after he was beaten by Holmes. If i may ask is the heavyweight div exciting now?😮😮😮😮😅😊
Boxing has been mostly just a fighting event until Ali who made it a real sport.
Lewis cannot be beaten
Scary fact: he taunting his Opponent by talking while dodging,
Near prime ali is on another level, imagine how good he was in his 25-28
so sad his hypocrite goverment atm stole it
May Allah have mercy on him Ameen ya Allah
What no one knows is that Sonny Liston never had a birth certificate. He may well have been in his early forties in this fight? I also agree that he was one of the best. George Foreman also agreed!
Frazier 1w, Ali1w, Frazier/Ali 1 Draw. And Ali was Telling his Corner between the 14th and 15th round of The Thrilla in Manilla to "Take em off, Im done, Take my gloves off, im done!"
To Ali boxing is giving a good show which he enjoys he is not interested to knock out his opponent in first round he wants to enjoy and others too
Awesome!!
The only heavyweight who also undefeated between that time 61-67 facts
The announcer exclaims:"Ali is down for the FIRST time in his career!!" But in a half-CENTURY
of frequent fights on the avenues of centralwest Detroit and inside of Clara S. Barton Elementary school,Anthony B.
Tucker has NEVER been taken OFF of HIS feet!! 🥶
To see Ali’s prime, simply watch the Cleveland Williams fight.
Ali would have whipped Frazier's ass if they fought around 68 or 69 and if there was no Vietnam BS !!!
Dans la stratégie, il y a l'école de positionnement avec son leader Michael Porter.
after cooper knocked him down suddenly there was a cut in alis glove had a cut in it. Extra rest.
To be fair to Clay/Ali (and some of his opponents), before, during and after his ring prime; despite the general claims of untouchability due to his unparallelled speed in this excellent documentary; Ali was indeed sometimes tagged with heavy shots by e.g., Liston, Cooper, Folley, Patterson and co., although less than almost all fighters at any weight. But what is overlooked way too often is that despite his ring style and 'looks' Clay/Ali also had a 'granite' chin so absorbed and shook off head and body shots quickly and incredibly well then almost always went on to win even against heavy-handed hitters like Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Bonavena, Chuvalo, Quarry, Shavers, Norton and co. He never lost in his prime, not just due to speed, but because of that chin.