XBOX ONE CONTROLLER with STRANGE FAULTS - Will it WORK Again?
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Here we have a faulty controller with no power at all. But that isn't the only fault. Will it work again? Let's find out.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment, and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.
I had to laugh today, one of my Patreon supporters commented on a video where I fail to fix something, they said “My Mate VINCE wouldn’t have given up so easily…” and they were dead right !
Haha, well at least they didn't say "you should send it to My Mate Vince" then you really would start doubting your ability😂 Cheers Scott 👍
Great Job Vince, and good job on the sponsorship! A hall effect sensor usually has 3 connections, GND, VCC and output. The output voltage varies with the magnetism detected, so now you know how to test them :) on another note I got approached by a company to do a review on something so things might be looking up!
Thanks Mick, I couldn't seem to get a voltage reading on them. I wonder if I should have been looking at millivolts on my DMM??? Happy to hear from you as I noticed your channel seemed a little quiet, taking a well deserved break over Xmas I presume. Good luck on the review and here's to lots of fixes in 2023👍
@@Mymatevince Thanks Vince no they should be 3v or 5v. The output should vary from 0 to the supply voltage usually or slightly less. I've just been busy with car issues currently got the gearbox out of my car and crankshaft oil seal on the engine has gone. Also had a few trips to the hospital as had a pain in my side and seems I've developed kidney stones which I'm waiting to hear on results of a scan. But I'm fine apart from a few bouts of pain over Christmas. Just been trying to catch up a bit and get some content done 👍
Sorry Mick, I wasn't notified about your latest vids. I'll catch up later, just editing a Xbox Series S video with a fault that you may understand more than me 👍👍👍
@@BuyitFixit Hope the car repair goes well and you have a bit of cover from the elements. I know all about kidney stones as I was blessed with a kidney full of them. Luckily or unluckily I had the kidney itself removed so I never had to pass them which is supposed to be pure evil. Hopefully with drinking plenty of water and reducing salty food you won't get them back once passed👌👍
@@MymatevinceOh I never knew that. But I did you mention something on a video about having one kidney? I vaguely remember something. They said I had a 7mm one, but they did a scan again and said it's a 4mm and 5mm. Had another scan few days ago and awaiting results to see if I need an operation to remove them if they are still there 😧😧
So happy with the sponsorship Vince, congrats! 🎉
Thank you so much Felipe 🙏👌👍👍👍👍
Well done on the sponsorship vince, glad to see you taking the channel to new heights
Thank you Phil 😎👌
So much fun Vince. I’m really happy that you got sponsored buddy. You’ve worked so hard at this, and you SHOULD be recognized!
Nice finally you have a sponsor after all of these years you deserve it as well
God tier levels of persistence. Another great fix. Well done, Vince!
Thanks Hamish👍
I've never watched a PCB Way ad, but this was interesting enough that I did. Good job.
Thanks Andy 👍
It's been amazing watching the skill transformation over the past few years, this is excellent troubleshooting and repair!
Of course you will have a sponsor, you do interesting videos! Any more thoughts regarding the TV offers? I think that if your nervous about doing them, then start with mechanical repairs rather than tiny circuit boards until your nerves settle! We really do want you to do this rather than anyone else!
Thanks Colin🙏👍 I did a little casting video with them but I know they have also contacted another TH-camr (a friend) SO....they have probably contacted 50 others as well. I think it will be highly unlikely anything will come of it, even if I had the guts to do it. Cheers for asking 👍👍👍
No and no. Don't do it. It will destroy your brand and maybe you. Your stuff is great how it is, by you. And that, is why. Some of my favourite parts are doors opening and closing in the background and dishes being done. EVERYONE can relate to that. Keep it real man, keep it real. Love your content.
been watching you for years mate keep it up
So happy this one worked in the end after all that work. Also, loved the sponsorship (and congrats on that) - you're the only youtuber who makes the sponsorship section interesting to watch.
VINCE if was in the UK I would ask you in person if I could be your apprentice. You do dam good work of the lot of controllers you work on and you show the entire process from start to finish. Absolutely fantastic work sir.
That controller job lot was a lot of fun. So many interesting faults in one box!
Thanks Lee👍
Congrats on the sponsorship! That's the first time I didn't fast forward through and ad!
Hi. I had the same situation with one of the triggers few days ago. It was constantly on like in yours. In My case removing a capacitor near the hall sensor fixed the problem. Inspection done using my microskope revealed that it was damaged. After that trigger started working normally. Nice job with changing the whole board with that Microsoft chip. I Like your videos
What you need in the future is a preheating BGA station to pre-heat the board so the solder melts faster and doesn't damage the tracks and crucially the ICs .
Great to see you back Vince, its been a while. Everything OK in MMV land?
Everything is good, thanks for asking 👍👍👍
The superhero of electronics at it again to save another
Haha, cheers Catherine 😂👌👍
Hi Vince & The Cod3r have you considered using one of those cheap pcb board pre heaters used by mobile phone repair shops, often sold quite cheaply on AliExpress?
I think if you had used that with a little kapton tape to protect the smd parts then this repair would of been quite easy.
Not only that the small pre heater would come in use for other projects ;-)
I sometimes cheap out on using the old Kapton tape and use the wifes tinfoil (bacofoil) to protect the smd parts.
Or if you have a 3d printer you may be able to use the heated bed.
Holy sh!t i thought you stopped youtube i used to watch your videos in 2016 and i remembered you glad to see you again 🥳🥳
For some reason I really wanted it to start working at 3:05 then have you say "All fixed, hope you enjoyed the video!" Ultimately glad it wasn't that short, really enjoyed watching this. But it would have just been hilarious.
It's great that you got an electronics sponsor for the video.
Great Video Vince I had same issue on the left Hall effect .. never had any spares.. got a replacement board from Leigh very cheap !!
The board is castellated, the majority of solder would be within the half-through-holes and not on what small amount of plated surface padding exist at the ends of those through-holes, you should have been able to use a wick to remove a majority of the solder that's there, if not all of the solder entirely. This kind of job is also where a hot plate is super, super useful, not only will it evenly heat (mostly, there are nuances) the entire area, but it also frees both of your hands for other work, not to mention their benefits for SMD, BGA, and components with fine pin pitches, and benefits over hot air stations and reflow ovens; GreatScott! and Carl Bugeja have some content on hot plates, designs are entirely DIYable considering price and quality can be concerns with what's currently on the market. Also, I've been able to find schematics, at least for 1708 and I'm not sure what else the creator has, but Columbia-Tech-Schematic here on TH-cam is a decent resource for schematics that otherwise aren't findable elsewhere, super useful for these more complex designs where things disappear into vias, not to mention having pinouts for various connectors and boards.
Vince when wicking the solder add flux to the solder wick, it will wick it up a lot easier to remove the solder is my tip of the day!
I have the same controller but for mostly pc i own a xbox one love these video @my mate vince
Another great video. I had the same problem with the 100% trigger. I found a very strange fix that is to remover the small cap and resistor and it worked.
Great video!
For the intermittent issues, try resetting the controller (holding the sync button until it vibrates again).
Nice fix, I wonder if the original owner left that trigger jammed on while answering the door or something blowing the chip then the resistor? If it was me removing that board I would have not used a nozzle as that's what probably caused the ripped pads.
Great job, Vince! I've repaired a couple of XBone controllers for my kids and the fault has always been a resistor, I think their parts quality is very low. One of the failed-open resistors I peeled the paint off and inspected had a teensy, but visible crack in the resistor element.
**IDEA**: For testing SMD parts, I use something called 'tweezer probes' - they look like tweezers, but each prong is connected to a wire that goes to the DMM. This makes rapid testing of SMD parts very easy.
Excellent video and channel, thanks so much for the entertainment! Cheers!!
Thanks Thomas 👍👍
Great Video! Also reminded me that I've still got a broken xbox controller that I should really fix! :)
Thanks Kip! More content for Fix it Friday 👌👍
What a weird one.. but a great fix. Good job on the sponsoring! You really earned to be sponsored.
Happy new year, Vince. I'm glad to see that you have a sponsor this time. And I'm doubly glad that it's a service that your viewers can use, and not some garbage like "Raid:Shadow Legends".
I know you wouldn't feel comfortable peddling an overhyped micro-transaction posing as a game.
It's nice to see you with a sponsor that you feel comfortable with.
Best of luck in 2023! (Think about doing that TV show if that's still an option. You have the personality and magnetism to make it work)
Thanks ECK, Happy New Year to you too👍👍👍👍
Great job!
For measuring smd capacitors and smd resistors I have bought measuring tweezers, which you can connect with your multimeter.
If the trace to a lifted pad isn't covered up by the part it's usually easier to fix the connection after putting the part on.
Remember when he used to make tutorial videos, and tried using different controllers from different consoles
Great fix Vince. I love your perseverance and I have learnt so much from your videos. Congratulations on the sponsorship 👍
I swear your hands are so rock solid you could manipulate individual atoms under an electron microscope.
I remember those days! Now I'm older I could make a frappe holding onto a glass of milk. 🤣
Been following you for years bud and as always, a great meditative experience watching you work.
😂 I still get the shakes! If you rest your forearms on the table just above your wrists then it is so much easier as generally the wrists are pretty shake free. In a future video I am holding up a Flir cam without the wrist trick and the Flir cam is shaking all over the place 😂👍
Always interesting to see these controller repairs. No two faults are ever the same lol! Very strange behaviour before the update - I was thinking maybe a bad solder point (perhaps around the module you replaced)? But the firmware update seems to have fixed it?!?! The resistor going open circuit is probably from a drop - a bit like ceramic caps they can be damaged by shock. Caps tend to short, resistors tend to go open circuit!
Thanks Chris. I was originally wandering if the boards didn't match with the same firmware, but I don't think there is any chip of any importance on that other board near the buttons so it can't be that.
So maybe it was thrown in rage and that damaged the chip and the resistor. Cheers mate👍
Hi vince, nice win and an earned one too 😀Now you have a sponsor (congratulation to that) you can finally get a pre-heater. That would allow you to remove the board much more easy. You might remove the small nozzle from the hot air station to target a larger area.
Thanks vince my controller was doing the same I can check mine the same way
Nice fix and congrats for getting a sponsor. My controller is white but has the same number, so far no problems.
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The reason the thing only draws 140 mA is because of Ohm's law that states I = V / Ω. And 1 Volt across a 7 Ohm resistance path generates 1/7th Amps of current.
The only way to increase the amperage in this case is to increase the voltage. 2 volts would generate twice the current (and four times the power).
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You're right. Heating a conducting material increases its resistance. Every conductive material has a temp-to-ohm curve, and copper is no exception.
Fun fact: each material has a so-called "critical temperature", where if the temperature goes below that, the conductor becomes *superconductive,* exhibiting zero electrical resistance (and, thus, theoretically being able to pass an infinitely strong current). Copper's critical temperature is 43 Kelvin (or -230.15 Celsius or 382.3 Fahrenheit).
Thanks Operational117👌👍👍👍
the problem removing the board is you are using a very narrow tip in the hot air station. In these cases where the area to work is larger, you should use a larger tip.
Hi Vince, you can probably use a little magnet on the little shield to lift the small board without ripping the traces the next time 👍
Hello, It’s nice to finally see your face mate!
Vince buy a pre-heater. It would do this job easily.
Some interesting news m8 Google just announced its opening up the epic Stadia controllers to be used on other devices and they are still to be found for cheap as chips, next week this happens as Stadia ends on the 18th, I'm happy as I got two of the controllers and they are any bit as good as a Nintendo Switch Pro controller :)
Thanks for letting me know Ian 👍
Brilliant Vince glad you sorted it out, I relaxed and kicked back and fell asleep 😴 joking watched and loved every minute thank you and congratulations on the sponsorship you deserve it
Thanks Gary. Nice one 👌
@@Mymatevinceyou’re welcome 😊
@@wisher21uk Did you end up getting the Switch Lite fully up and running?
Good job and Congrats on the sponsor! One thing, I think I may have tried to just reflow that original BGA chip. Microsoft has a history.. lol
Wouldn't those board to board interconnects be a great job for high quality solder wick?
The Low Melt solder might have been a good choice, hot air is always a good idea to preheat the Board and increase your chances of not damaging stuff.
Hey Vince nice repair. How about the "Frankenstein" Controller you planed a long time ago (from all of the rest parts of the joblot)? Greetings from Germany.
I got distracted by the way you say Haribo 🤣🤣 but great video
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Great job vince is that a piece of jumper wire used in that fix ???
Thanks. I normally use little 0.1mm enamelled wire 👍👍👍
You could do with a little preheater or hot plate for jobs like this, just so you can keep the whole area at a certain temperature. Might make things a little easier? 🤷🏻♂️
Cmon Vince it’s been ages since I could do a snooker reference in the comments
Great fix Vince, love your determination and effort! I feel it may have been slightly easier with a stencil and solder ball paste for the chip though😂
It could be weird after module replacement because of different firmware versions running in different chips around the controller. Updating made them all have the same version firmware (set).
Maybe some firmware related settings are stored at the board you replaced and the update reset them.
Congratulations on the sponsorship
i had one of these blue ones but the USB port from it broke and I went to switch it since it was under warranty and there wasn't any blue ones so I instead got a white one that still works to this day
Great video vince. I'm having an issue with my controller aswell, I have recently changed one of the joycons and the circularity is off it now travels in a square any help would be appreciated.
Hi Vince hope your Christmas was good
It was Mark, thank you. Hope you enjoyed yours as well 👍👍👍
It doesn't look like you removed the low melt solder from the board with traces you repaired. You might want to revisit that later if you didn't just cut that from the video cuz that will cause issues with solder cracking and connectivity like it's a cold solder joint.
How do you make a difference between a common ground connection and a short circuit?
Good video now lets see the other one you took apart working too
My original black controller have faults in the dpad up and down does work properly
Does anyone know know where to buy the vice dat is used at 20:00?
It is small, due to the spring it is fast to use and it could be made from stainless steel so solder is not sticking to it. Perfect!
Thanks again for an interesting video Vince, I am learning a lot from you!
I bought that from eBay a couple of years ago. I just looked on UK eBay and I found something similar for £5. I typed in 'Board Repair Holder' 👍
@@Mymatevince I ordered one, thank you!
Last week for example I was replacing the USB port of a wireless IR sensor. I used a thin copper wire and some solder mask to recreate a PCB pad that went missing, it all went well. This is one of the thing that I have learned from watching your videos.
Honestly, I had a great time repairing the sensor and I am proud that I successfully fixed the sensor! :D
@@annoniem1177 Well done, it is always a great feeling fixing something regardless of the value 😎
whooooo a fix video :D awsome vince mate
Cheers George 👌👍
wow well done vince so small some of the bits
Thanks DG 👍
My friend has a sound bar and sub that’s stopped working, it’s led lights up but it not receiving a signal from hdmi or optical inputs. Would you be interested in looking at it?
It’s also really easy to get into the controllers components!, just take my little brother and make him play a game of Fortnite and he will slam the controller on the ground!
Woohoo! Good to hear you got sponsored, well deserved dude
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Why did you do it 2hours ago
Great job dude
Nice job fixing the controller I didn't really watch the video I was listening to it while making a cat toy with feathers I was wondering is that the xbox controller that also has Bluetooth capability ? I have one I bought to connect to my phone that looks exactly like that one if I have ot pack away at the moment so I don't know the model # but when I bought it it said it was for the xbox one s and of course the xbox one as well as having Bluetooth so it can connect to other Bluetooth capable devices like cellphones and computers wirelessly , just curious about the one you fixed and if it sends a Bluetooth signal out so it could connect to other devices
I have the same controller and it does indeed have bluetooth
Yes Eric, this one has Bluetooth. I might be incorrect here but I think a quick way to check is if it has a 3.5mm headphone jack and the front is moulded plastic all the way around the Xbox button then I think they all have Bluetooth 👍
@@Mymatevince thanks and cool it is a very nice controller and happens to be a very clean looking blue color which I 💙 / like a lot
Pretty nice Repair Vince ... Now I know why don't service remote controls hahah lol
Cheers QTS 👍👌
whats the tool called you use scrape the board to reveal the traces?
Hey Vince. I've got a problem with an original xbox controller from 2013. I had just taken it apart out of curiosity, but when i put it back together, the triggers and sticks don't work. I think there's something wrong with the rear pcb board but have no idea what caused it. Any ideas?
thanks for the videos!
Congrats on the sponsoring :)
PCBWay is awesome.
Been waiting for a return to xbox one controllers from Vince! Cool be the part 7 ! Lol 😂
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@@Mymatevince i think my wish came true! 🤣 this was truly deserving of renaming of the title! Those unusual faults! Keep up the great content Vince! And a happy new year to you and family!! 🙏
@@onasazi Happy New year to you too!
great video. i have a xbox one controller that does not power on right away but if you leave the usb on for fair bit of time it finally gets power . Does has right stick drift. would you like to fix it
No thanks Dave, I have more faulty ones here. Cheers for asking though👍👍👍
Great video 👍
Is your experience that with the Microsoft Controller boards its easy to rip traces apart??
I tried to fix my 360 Controller (faulty Left Button) and ripped a trace while trying it.
Personally I would of taken the nozzle off the hot air gun. Circled the entire inplace PCB, putting plenty of heat in the entire area.
Something to think about maybe. PS. I am not an expert, so own judgement required. 🤔
The problem with that method is that it would have melted the solder on all the components,. So when he took the board off, he may have knocked off some of the components.
Personally I would have wicked the unleaded solder off of the pads before adding the low melt solder.
Hey, i guess you get this asked often, but what kind of Flux do you use?
Thanks!
Xbox. One. Controller. With. Strange. Faults will. It. Word
If there was ever a time to use the yellow mat, this was it...
😂😂 So true!!!
what is the name for the software you use to check the xbox with?
So there's no discount code from the sponsors so basically it's pointless to the viewers and My Mate Vince is reaping all the benefits... Nice one... Your the only you tuber with that amount of subs who claims poverty!!
It's a pleasure, glad to know you think so highly of me. You enjoy your Sunday spreading hate.
I’ve done a repair on one of these - an analog stick swap and new casing on an Xbox controller my son bounced off his bedroom wall
You really need to get a board holder 👍
You are use a to small nozzel for the hot Air.
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Wonder if the firmware got corrupt from heat
Great video as usual Vince is the controller tester on your pc a free to use if so where can I download it please retgards Jeff
It is free but it has little adverts pop up. If you type 'Game Controller Tester' into the Microsoft Store then you will see it 👍
Good job mate 👍
nicely done!
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