No mention of lewis becoming the record breaking 8 time world champion, Max fresh tyre assumption and preloaded our minds about another tyre twist. I love this channel. Starr making merch
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sometimes, I feel like the commentators are sending messages to the teams with the way they talk because they know the teams are listening.
You are so right 8 have said this for ages now blundell particularly and others over the mike whilst their racing say things over the mike thenxt thing the teams acts on it particularly Red Bull
@@jackieturner6515 I'll just fix this for you You are so right m8, have said this for ages now, Brundle particularly and others over the mic whilst they're racing - say things over the mic ... the next thing the teams acts on it, particularly Red Bull. Still, even written correctly, it's a load of old bollocks.
I think it is the opposite because there is a 5 min delay between live and broadcasting live. So that give team for teams to tell the commentaries what to say
The commentators first and only thought is that the race could be changed if they get some more laps, but he never mentions the possibility of the race ending under a safety car, as if that wasn’t even an option for him.
They mention Are we going to have another tyre twist? Norris still on track so is Latifi, Perez also on track. When did Norris pit he is still on track overtook Alonso to move to 8th place. They mention Mercedes winning their 8th championship. They announced we are going to have a couple of laps racing. How can they know this without prior knowledge of how long its going to take to remove Latifi car from the track. Verstappen pits straight away even though the commentary states he was already on fresher tyres than SLH.
Who ever wins? There was absolutely no chance of Hamilton losing apart from a mechanical but they don't mention that possibility but still said , whoever wins No mention of Lewis becoming 8 time WDC, but say Merc will be 8 time constructor champs. There was no radio message to Lewis about Verstappen pitting and tyres firing up. History says that an SC takes longer than what was remaining yet push the narrative of getting it cleared quickly
You have taken ‘whoever wins’ out of context old Derek mate. In context, Crofty stated, ‘we have said it all season long, and especially this weekend though, whoever is champion, both drivers have put in a champion performance all season long’. (Of course, you can disagree with this statement if you wish but that is the context of ‘whoever wins’. A few seconds before he stated this, he also said that Lewis will become Champion and although Max had lead the most laps over the season, it won’t be enough.
@@Tomtraubert2009 . Ah , but the thing is , look at the lap times from previous SC at AD and compare them with 2021. They were definitely slower , Hamilton even said the SC was going too slow , so slow in fact, it had to weave to try and get tyre temp. The SC gets tyre temp from going flat out where possible.
@@seangreenheld7525. Tbf mate , are you Crofty ? You have absolutely no idea what context he meant it in , just as I don't. Context is down to interpretation. Plus what I'm referring to was said minutes before the SC coincidence or not !
@@dandelion_official4812here are possibly over 200 examples of a driver HAVING to overtake by a certain lap. For example, in monaco, A lead driver pits from a 20 second lead. They come out in traffic and are 5 seconds a lap slower. They only HAVE 4 laps to pass. At lap 3 the engineer would say "it HAS to be this lap"
@@josephrobson2339Not a comparable example in any way, but nice try. Seeing as you are such a historian of the sport, can you tell me a single example of safety car procedure being executed this way? I'll wait...
Lewis was railroaded… Max is anything but a gentleman driver… The FIA safety teams are incompetent… The presenters lack real-time technical knowledge… The FIA is corrupted… They are afraid of Andretti Auto Sport…
@@rolandoruiz7710 Not the FIA but the other teams are responsible for Andretti not participating in the f1. It’s all about the money, if you share the prize money with eleven teams in stead of ten teams. In my opinion they could find a simple solution for this problem. But you are right, the FIA is as corrupt as can be, that’s the biggest problem in f1.
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
He had fresher tyres and also, it was obvious RB would pit him for new tyres. Even Lewis knew this. Analyse that part of the radio comms. No, I'll bet you won't.
4:50 The entire dialogue beginning with "Normal service is resumed with Hamilton.." THIS is the reality all those involved in this fix cannot bear to face, Hamilton consistently on another level. It ended with "Mercedes had an awful pre-season and we all thought Mercedes would be in trouble.." The commentary THEN clicks into the Safety Car Choreography: "There's bound to be a couple of laps.." Is another oddball comment.
@@Tomtraubert2009That's not how sport usually works, is it 😂 Do football teams agree prior to a match that they will go to a penalty shootout because that's more entertaining?
@@dandelion_official4812 Oh, that old chestnut. No, but, some games do go straight to pens with no extra time. Replays have also been scrapped in some competitions. So, you're not actually comparing apples with apples here.
@@Tomtraubert2009Even if all team principles agreed to finish the race on green conditions, it doesn't give them the right to ignore safety protocols and rules, and to proceed with something unprecedented.!
I think it is 1nderful, who suggested that DR career to a turn for the worse because he refused to be part of the fix. 1nderful suggests that the cabal is making an example out him. Remember his comment over team radio? “I’m glad I’m not part of that, whatever just happened. Seemed uh…pretty f*cked up”. Personally, I’m inclined to believe that suggestion. SLH was racing the entire FIA that season. He just wasn’t aware yet. He’s still racing the entire organisation. But I think he’s aware now…
Alternative view - DR’s career was already taking a turn for the worse after being beaten by Lando in the 2021 championship. Ultimately, DR was not regularly outperforming Tsunoda, he was not fast enough for a promotion to the main team. Also, I don’t think Red Bull rate Tsunoda as being ready for the main seat so DR didn’t stand a chance. If DR blew away Tsunoda I think he stood a chance at getting back to RB.
So now Ricciardo left in 2018 because he didn't want to be part of a fix years (three) later??? You people seriously need to check your minds applying and reversing cause and effect to unrelated events through mindreading.
Danny Ric's career took a turn for the worst every time he made a bad decision - nothing to do with this. He'd have been Perez' replacement after the summer break if he was driving well. He wasn't. Also, if there was a fix and DR wasn't going to partake in it, then how come Christian Horner brought him back into the RB fold? Some of the shit you lot pump out is not well though through. When he jumped to Renault and then from Renault to McLaren, that's what started his mostly downward spiral, nothing else. How can a 20 man grid all be in on the fix and not say anything 3 years later plus every member of every team? It can not make sense. It does not make sense.
@@Tomtraubert2009 "How can a 20 man grid all be in on the fix and not say anything 3 years later plus every member of every team?" opportunism? fear? career ending? made deals?... an old French F1 driver had said nobody talks about it because they fear the backfire... why do you think Lewis doesnt talk about it?... I bet he'll have some words to say once he'll end his own career... for now he still makes milions doing what he likes... driving F1 cars every day... Milking the cow while it still breathe... that's a tremendous self control you witnessing imo
@@wreagfeI would suggest that DR was saying he was happy that he wasn't part of RB when this shambles occured, hence couldn't be questioned as part of the team, but could express his true thoughts on the matter! Did you forget your happy pill this morning? 😂
Love how when Crofty talks about lewis becoming world champion there's no mention that it would be a record breaking 8th then he undermines with the caveat that max has lead more laps then brundle pipes in and starts talking about some of the incidents over the season where either driver had lost points mentioning all the ones where max was 'unlucky' where it was out of his hands and one about lewis locking up in baku making it look like lewis through those points away himself. Then they bring up max's 33 point lead going into silverstone and how he was 'put in hospital by lewis' making it look like he was by far the better driver both on performance and morally, basically just compiling a list if reasons why what micheal masi is about to do is justified because max 'deserved it more because he's been SO unlucky'. That conversation ends almost perfectly in time for latifis crash and just before that happened they managed to squeeze in laughing off the FIA's unscheduled change to the regulations to hamper mercedes, and how its not managed to stop them becoming a record breaking 8th time constructors champions but crofty never said that about lewis when he brought up the drivers championship earlier, like there's some sort of agreement to boost Mercedes for Toto but then to not bother when it comes to lewis. It's honestly horrible to listen to them twisting every little detail across the season in that way it's absolutely vile.
@@Scatavic63Aah it was a Trump reference 😊 Liberty Media ran his election campaigns so seeing as you are supporting their skewed narrative I'd say you have more similarities to supporters of the orange one than I do 😉
@@Scatavic63You 'sorted' your interlocutor wrong proving your biases set may be a little mistaken, you'd rather think some others analisys and evaluations of yours are wrong.
This is interesting. Max did need a miracle to win and indeed he did get his miracle. The real question is… did the miracle occur due to chance? Or did the miracle occur to bending of the rules?
@@jamesmburu7885 I agree. I guess the point I was trying to make was... were the rules bent in the moment (due to the heat of the stress Michael Masi) or was the bending of the rules preconceived and everyone, including the commentators, was in on it? Yeah, the release of emotion after his Silverstone win definitely reflects the pain Lewis has felt since AD21.
@@seangreenheld7525The commentary was very suss. The first time I saw it (when it was happening) and everytime I've listened back since I have no other explanation for the "one final racing lap" prediction. It was obvious to me as a frequent viewer that the race was far more likely (ie 100% definitely) going to end under safety car. Meaning Lewis, whatever you think of him, was guaranteed an 8th as long as he could stay on track without a mechanical. This wasn't mentioned. What we got instead was a lot of chat about Max's tyres, which were irrelevant. Because, under the rules of the sport since 2012, that was a safety car finish - no overtaking allowed. If you agree that the procedure wasn't followed correctly, you have to also believe that you know the safety procedures better than everyone on the Sky Sports F1 team... They never called it out, but rather justified and gave credence to it by telling us safety procedures aren't mandatory. Additionally, the decision was upheld by the steward's Committee and Mercedes withdrew their appeal.
I heard it and then it hit me one of the commentators was saying Mercedes going to become constructors champion for the 8 times, but never mention that hamilton going to be 8 times champion. Why didnt he say mercedes and hamilton going to be 8 times champion???
I don’t know why Crofty didn’t mentionLewis becoming an 8 time world champion. However, he did state that Lewis Hamilton will become world champion (5:13)
Because it was the car and had been the car for 8 years. People easily forget how done people were with the artificial elevation of SLH44 at the expense of the entire sport. No wonder Liberty Media could actually buy it. The sport was a rigged snoozefest. And now that there's actual competition Mr James Atkins thinks everything is rigged. Amazin'
@@dandelion_official4812 Don't forget this is just a short clip... just because he didn't say it here doesn't mean it wasn't broadcasted at any point. I can just imagine the scenes if Lewis crossed the line in first with the fireworks and Crofty shouting 8 time world champion.
@@seangreenheld7525 I watched it live and was disgusted. Not even a fan of Lewis but I haven't watched F1 since. I KNOW it wasn't broadcasted, so find another angle to defend the indefensible if you like but it won't get you far 😉🤣 AD21 was a fixed race. End. Of. Story.
Got it. Right at the end when latifi crashes Brundle says max’s fresher tyres will fire up when we get racing BEFORE he even goes into the pits to change them. So for a couple of laps before Latvian crashes they were talking the tyre narrative, then we’ve heard Latifi’s crew say gotta be this lap mate (in previous videos) then he crashes and Brundle talks then about Max’s fresher tyres BEFORE HE PITTED.
8:29 "That's where Max Verstappen's much fresher tyres will fire up.." Verstappen hadn't even pitted yet! Claire Voyant must've tyre whispered in Brundle's ear!
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
Its just a little bit sad that lewis could have retired by now, he should have never of lost that even under the safety car, when a team bases their strategy off of something you cant change what they are basing it off after they have already chosen what to do, like it or not, that is called rigging the race, fia even broke their own rules by letting the backmarkers pass. I think max deserved it but he shouldn't have won it. Lewis hamilton WAS robbed and it was an absolute scandal.
@@Scatavic63 you’re jealous of this channel he already has a video over 100k views and many videos of over 70k views. Lots of people know that F1 is rigged and corrupt
To be honest, I've never really took notice of the English commentary, as at that time i was watching the spectacle on Sky sports Germany, and never bothered to watch the rerun again after the manipulation. But after listening to Crofty & Brundle again, that strongly reminded me of Statler and Waldorf from the muppet show, there's some interesting points that could be discussed. 1) Brundle mentioning that Verstappens tyres would be easier to fire up after a restart, was complete humbug. Verstappen was struggling with tyres the whole race, and at that said time he had 17 laps old hard tyres on, how on earth could they have been so easily fired up? 2) From my experience of watching F1, whenever commentators register a collision, they somehow never seem to know exactly who was involved in a collision and how severe the incident really is. But in AD21 while Statler and Waldorf were bantering on, hyping up the crazies, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Crofty in excitement yells that Latifi had crashed and was able to pin-point exactly where he had crashed, sounded to me like a script in a contrived storyline.
@@dandelion_official4812You shouldn't look at it like that, but rather that it was a show, and Lewis was well aware of what was going down. Wake up bro, it's a Babylon system, and it's all about deception in these last days.
@@dennydee1004I think he was aware of the pre-agreement. It's just when it played out against HIM he had an issue with it 😂 Doesn't mean it wasn't motivated by racial discrimination, but I can't know anything either way other than this: The safety procedures were compromised, directly preventing an historic achievement, and the associated media not only legitimised this, but predicted and laid the groundwork for it. Anything else is speculation tbh
Martin Brundle: “Max Verstappen’s fresher tires will fire up”. A little while after he made that statement Max Verstappen pitted. Brundle made that statement before Max Verstappen had pitted. Martin Brundle: “Max ended up in hospital.” You would think from that statement that Max had received some grave injury. Martin Brundle: “You win a championship over a season.” Yet he speaks of a one lap shootout for the championship between Max and Sir Lewis.
Alternative view: 1. Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s. 2. The fact is that Verstappen did end up in hospital. As nothing was happening on track they were summarising the key moments in the championship. Brundle was also criticising Verstappen for saying that he wouldn’t have changed his approach at Silverstone, even though it cost him many points in the championship. 3. You do win a championship over a season. This is also a fact.
Max's tyres were fresher because RBR took every opportunity to pit, because they had nothing to lose. At the next opportunity, they pitted again. Are you so delusional you are ignoring basic chronology of events? "fresher tyres will fire up" - they were fresher At the next saftey car RBR pitted Max again. Glad to help.
oh boy, where to start with this. Dogs on the street Max had fresher tyres and was going to pit again too. You win a championship over a season by putting yourself in a position at the end of the season that enables you to beat your rival to the championship be it by a 1-lap shootout or 20 laps, 30 laps, etc. It isn't a hard concept to grasp.
@@wreagfewhat would you say, if you'd be caught and asked a few questions and for every purposely given wrong answer you'd get publicly whipped by 100 strokes like they give in the country I live in and that I love, because that really hurts and they know how to get the truth out of people like you. What would you say, why the engineer said to Latifi, that this is their last chance before he crashed? Latifi and Schumacher's son were the last ones and had nothing to win and nothing to lose anymore except bringing their expensive cars back safely. So what was THAT LAST CHANCE? Last chance to win the race😂 or last chance to come into the points😂 or last chance to not be late to catch the flight home?😂 What the fu¢k did he mean by that in a situation, where there was only one thing, that he could still do and even for that it was actually already too late, if they had applied the rules correctly, AND THAT WAS THE LAST CHANCE TO CRASH! So if they caught you for the delicious whipping practice session😂, would you tell them, that they meant the last chance to catch the flight home or win the race or get into the points OR WOULD YOU TELL THEM, WHAT YOU KNOW WELL TO BE THE TRUTH , IF "100 DELICIOUS STROKES" WERE AT STAKE? 😂😅🤣🤪 You see, you're only LYING here because you're living within a system, that's evil to the core and is even sharing, supporting and partaking in your lies, but it won't be long and you'll be held responsible for all the lies you've been spewing. Just be a little patient, it's coming 😂
@@Tomtraubert2009😂 oh thank you, I didn't know, that there was a rule, that at the end of a season they can make a last lap shout-out between the first and the second and all the others, who were also fighting for points during the whole season are being excluded from the race and actually the whole season is only to extract the first and the second to make them race a one last lap shout-out. How could I have been so stupid not to have known this easy-to-understand rule 😂. But by the way, can you please show me, where that rule was written, so that Michael Masi could've so easily applied it without having to bend any given rules, that don't even allow such bending by anyone, not even the race director, because I'm searching and searching and searching since 2 and a half years, but I can't find it😂
The only thing I could figure out was that latifi conveniently crashed after Sir Lewis had passed the pit entrance which gave mv the opportunity to change his tires. Oh, I just realized that they crofty was already talking about a tire twist long before latifi conveniently crashed!
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
brundle clearly knew something. he starts to mention tyres and bites his tongue, continues, and THEN says he is pitting !!! so which is it brundle ?? is he on new tyres before he pits, or is he just putting them on ?? there is no way this isnt setup way before the drivers got to the track. what with ALL the other radio messages in past videos....... this shit is pure upsetting
No they aren't.. What is happening to make you think this is that you're getting more and more immersed in james' echo chamber and can no longer see anything objectively. This is what makes you think each video is getting more and more on point.
"Max Verstappen's fresher tyres will fire up." the crash just happened, but he somehow knew that Max would pit and get fresher tyres and that Lewis would be stuck on 40-lap old hards... How is that possible, unless scripted.
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
Max's tyres were already fresher. SLH hadn't pitted at all outside the normal pit windows, because the safety cars occured at unideal moments for him (just passing pit entry).
@@dandelion_official4812 Max's 22 lap fresher Hard tyres certainly would 'fire up' relative to Lewis's hard. It's called a tyre offset mate. I don't know if you have noticed in Formula 1 before, but trying to gain a tyre offset advantage is a key part to strategy. Even with a 3-5 laps tyre offset, you can have a noticeable improvement in grip and control of tyre temps at the end of a stint. In this case, the offset was 22 laps mate, that is whopping! Hamilton tyres would make him a sitting duck compared to those. After Verstappen put on fresh softs, Lewis was a slaughtered duck.
Latifi crashed at lap 54, bringing tyre narrative to fruition, Lewis was fast on any tyre and kebs being ground down in sections (high speed turns)of the track , causing punctures if Kerb hoping.
@@Dan_Mone That is true mate. Still, I think Max would gain confidence in that situation because he would be in touching distance to Lewis as opposed to 10+ seconds back.
It's almost like they knew exactly where Latifi was going to crash. Track clearance crew were at the scene of the crash super quick, like they already knew the location. Max was conveniently coming up to pit lane when the crash occurred. No mention of SLH becoming 8 time WDC at all. Lots of players in play on this one. There were definitely some coded messages being relayed there!
and leading more laps than everyone one is not enough to GIVE MV a world champ title... I though you'd WON that... history showed us that indeed this was given...
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
That was Hamilton’s team radio. Lewis was on very old tires, and Lando who was also on old tires got a slow puncture. Bono, was advising Lewis to stay off the curbs at turn 15 and 16 to protect his tires.
Of course knowing, how many times the hornet was asking for a miracle, this is not how human psychology works, when the race is ending and you know, that there won't be any miracle anymore, so you rather want to look away and not see, what's happening, if your team is losing, but you definitely won't be as optimistic as repeatedly "demanding" a miracle 🤔😉 This guy must have extremely good ties to the racing gods, but in this case these racing gods haven't been floating around somewhere in heaven, but I'm still surprised, that he was mentioning this, since it had been a part of the plan and talking about it publicly as he did actually means exposing their dirty plan, or was he afraid, that they had forgotten it? That would mean, that the whole plan wasn't that well prepared and I can't imagine THAT
Did Martin start commentating as if Max had new tyres before he even pitted? I get that the audio is delayed but his comments regarding the upcoming tyre duel come 30 seconds before Max dives in.
Seeing as there appears to be zero contention here that the safety car procedure was not concluded correctly - can anyone explain Martin and Crofty predicting the safety car coming in early and sticking with it? If everyone, regardless of their opinion on this content, has no contention that it was incorrect - surely a commentary team of such experience would also be aware of this...
They mentioned Verstappen on new fresh tires before he pitted ! He wasn't even at turn 14 ! A lap or two ? I loved when they say a WDC is won throughout the season not over 1 race ! As it's not my language I'll play it again.
Crofty saying Lando Norris’ always ‘races to the line’ and had a stellar last lap’ at AbuDhabi in his debut season. Implying that he is already thinking about/implanting the idea of a last lap to the audience.
-How Marty Brandel knew that Max will have fresh tires before he even pitted. -there are new that will be a safety car. -on lap 52!!! -They already know they will be a safety car -
Max's "much fresher tires will fire up" - said before Max pitted (M. Brundle) "because of the slow pace" - said before the safety car came on track and drove unusually slowly (MB)
1. What he had on were fresher. 2. Everyone knew he'd pit for new even fresher ones, even Lewis. 3. It was obvious there'd need to be a safety car, safety car coming on will obviously slow the field to a pace slower than race pace. 4. SC driving slower than people wanted - Lewis complains every time a SC comes on track and always moans about it's pace. 5. It had to be 'slower' to give a chance of bunching the field up quicker to then allow the release of lapped cars and get back to green flag conditions. 6. The SC doesn't have to follow a delta.
@@Tomtraubert2009 1. Agreed 2. Agreed 3. Agreed 4. No need to inject loaded language 5. Disagree. If it takes an extra lap, it takes an extra lap. 6. Sure, but it needs to drive at a reasonable pace. FWIW, I don't buy into the Grand Conspiracy, I was mostly just bored and thought deciphering the audio within the "rules of this game" was entertaining. That said, Brundle is a wanker, and Sky's shilling for Max throughout 2021 was unconscionable. Doesn't mean they were conspiring with anyone to do anything - they're just trying to make money, and their management decided that approach was likely to be most profitable.
Hamilton was 100% cheated out of the championship, but I didn't hear anything amiss here. Masi broke at least 2 rules which handed Max the win. I don't blame Max, but I do blame his team, Masi and the stewards. I also HATE that Mercedes didn't go all the way through the court case to appeal.
Lewis driving hasn’t been the same since Abu Dhabi 2021 I know the 2022 and recent car is not great. But I think his still suffering mentally from Abu Dhabi
I'm stuck on the kerb story here. The overly aggressive curbs that were ground down on Thursday, sorry Friday were to blame for Norris having "a puncture" This put him right behind Lewis in front of the lapped cars. After this we hear that Lewis is back up to speed after negotiating traffic, yet we are told that max could possibly shave seconds off when he comes to tackle those same lapped cars. Could it be lando was placed there to manage that pack? Theres so very much wrong but I believe most of it has been covered. Such as the constant steering of the conversation back to max, never once mentioning that Lewis is set to break the ultimate record in the "sport" Would max do the same if he were at Silverstone again? Do what again exactly? They placed the blame firmly on Lewis at the time. Adding insult to injury by exaggerating Maxwell's trip to the hospital. Anyone would think he ended up in traction. I'm sure I've left out a lot. It's twisted from start to finish.
The thing that leaps out at me is the instant response by the commentators that it will 'be a full safety car'. But anyway, it was not this, but the selective nature of the restart and subsequent approval by the stewards that will always stick in my throat. The 'Arabs' were up to something that day.
Brundle: This now changes the context of this race, if they can clear out the Williams in time and we can have a couple of laps racing to the Chequred flag. Crofty: There's bound to be a couple of cause, that's where Max Vestapen's fresher tires wil fire up and give him the confidence on any kind of restart. That was approximately 33 seconds before Max pitted.
People here keep saying about hard tyres on Max' car firing up quicker than Lewis'. Whilst this may be partly true, it sounds like its written to suit s narrative to me. Old hards vs older hards (that Lewis was lapping faster on btw) would have a marginal gain if they restarted with those. More rubber, but they still both suffer the exact same problem when running at safety car speeds. They both would fire up slowly. Also, why the heck would you not pit for softs in Red Bull's situation. It was literally nothing to lose, a complete no brainer, so i think this 22 vs 40+ lap old hard tyres talk is moot. It just wouldn't happen and make that much difference. If Lewis was SLOWER than Max on those old hards they may have a sliver of a point, but it makes no sense to me given the context. It is almost certain Brundle was talking about new tyres for Red Bull imo. It is a no brainer and I think the "altenative viewpoint" definitely just suits a narrative. A preferred outcome. It is illogical and barely logical at the same time. Also, have it their way and Carlos is on fresh rubber, or fresher rubber, rhat still leaves him free to attack for a win, except it didn't. It just benefitted one driver and every driver bar Max and Lewis was just forgotten about. That stinks. It is so called sport and sporting fairness applies to ALL drivers and teams. I just smh when people keep denying what their eyes snd ears tell them, for their own desired outcomes. I hope the truth comes out one dsy about this. I was probably one of the only people unsurprised by it. I called before it happened there would be a safety car with 5 laps to go. I thought Merc would be tricked into boxing though, but they correctly stayed out. People can call BS if they want, but that's true, so i must be psychic or something. Where is the mention of Lewis' (potential at the time) record breaking 8th championship? For all those who shout Brit bias at everything, where was that mentioned? Brit commentary, pundits yet diddly squat about history in the making. Suspicious that they just mention Mercedes 8th constructors. Lots of other things going on in there too, "tyres, tyres, tyres" when Lewis mentions the SC not going full gas down the straights, uet rhat was onky one consideration. The other was rhe laps ticking by more slowly sllowing more time for Latifi's car to be moved, which wasn't even attempted to be moved under its own power back to rhe pits. The more you look and hear, fhe more things don't add up.
I would love to know what was so urgent on that particular lap, for the Latifi team to tell him it had to be this lap, which was a lot that he crashed that miraculously enabled all of this happen.
They can argue about it in the replies but don't seem to be rushing to explain when asked directly. Hmmm 🤔🤣 I've been wondering too, hopefully someone will enlighten us soon 😌
yeah a tire twist with Lewis literally the fastest thing on earth that day. I actually felt bad for the lack of pace in Max's car. It was unreal, and Bottas was nowhere when it mattered but Checo was the biggest blocker the sport has ever seen, observed by all. But guess who's labelled with a "wingman"?
I found 3 parts of that commentary segment of note. #1 Failure to acknowledge Hamilton's record breaking 8th wdc. #2 Tacit admission that the crash at Silverstone was Verstappen's fault. #3 Failure to mention Verstappen's driving standards, either attempting to crash into Hamilton(Brazil), or succeeding to (Monza, Saudi, Silverstone etc).
@@stevenanthony578Why did he have to overtake that particular lap? Is that even a thing? You can overtake on any lap, as long as you get it done before the line no?
Obviously Ted talking about a further tyre twist. Brundle talking about Max's much fresher tyres will fire up, when he was never faster than Lewis on the throughout that race, after one of his many pits. Why was Lewis on a set of tyres from lap 14?
When Crofty mentioned Silverstone Brundle talks about Brazil, commentary box and then team radio talking about angle grinding kerbs at same time. Those are two things that stick out. Also maybe the five car narrative between Verstrappon and Lewis after lando rejoins after his puncture, so again driving the tyre and 5 car narrative. EDIT after reading a few comments now I will add Brundle pushing the narrative The season is won after a season not one race.
Yes because if you are shit for a whole season you won't be able to be in a position at the end of said season to be in a position to win it. The last race isn't one race, it's one race out of the whole season. Being shit all season and winning one race won't win you the championship. It really isn't that hard to understand now, is it.
All i could think for the first 5 mins is why am I torturing myself with this again? Then i gave up and stopped to save my blood pressure a bit. The end.
@@Tomtraubert2009 i got past the intro and then thought i'd try the challenge. then as i started it immediately felt like rewatching the end of a tragedy with a depressing ending in which your favorite character, the hero, unjustly gets killed by the bad guy. kind of like gladiator but way worse. and that wasn't an experience i wanted to repeat.
"Have we got another tire twist"... kerbs ground down. Max got wiped out by Bottas "playing billiards in Hungary"(?). "You win an championship over a season, not a race... yet their entire portrayal of events from the Sky boys was about the season coming down to one race - and really, just the post Latifi "crash." And, Hamilton had the same tires since ---- LAP 14?!?! "With 5 to go, they'll probably have a lap or two..." That's all I caught.
‘Have we got another tyre twist’. This clip doesn’t show what Ted was saying fully. I think he was referring to someone who got a puncture maybe. I think he was referring to the possibility of Lewis getting a puncture because he was on such old hard tyres. This is were the ‘we need a miracle’ quote sprouted from. Of course, the media enjoyed hyping the last race of the season as it was the decider. But of course, you do win a championship over a season, not a race. I think it’s a great quote personally!
Nice to see your subscriber count is climbing still. A bit slower than we all want and need. Have you considered bending to youtubes whim and doing youtube shorts to get a wider horizon?
Not one mention of lewis becoming an 8 time world champ and breaking all records is very very suspicious to me ,it was all set up to stop him like what they did in his rookie season.
Because the entire sport and fans were done with 8 years of rigged Mercedes fraud an cheating. No on ereally wanted to see this artificially elevated average driver be among the greats of the sport based on this. That's why it wasn;t talked about. Also SLH44's toxicity and implementing politics didn't really help. F1 fans are/were normal middle class people that do not put up with that bs.
How did the commentator know that Maxs” fresher tires would fire up if Max wasn’t on fresh tires at the time he made the comment Max had not even entered the pit at that point! I found it interesting that the commentator stated that “Red needed a miracle”, and Coincidentally Latifi was told it that” had to be this lap”, and on that lap Latino crashes, and then Max’s miracle was born. Seems like there were a lot of hands in that pot stirring it up. Anyways, just my opinion
That would make sense and maybe does make sense. What the tires that max were on or not that better than the one Luis was on. Or else would not have had to come in to get new tires. So for the commentator to make that remark, maxs tire's would have had been much newer, but as they were running prior to the latifi scandalous crash,, max was not gaining on Lewis.
@@greghall8363 You got it, max's tyres had done about half the number of laps lewis's had done and there was a concern that lewis might be getting close to the "cliff" where performance drops off completely. As to performance, Lewis was in a different league on that day. He'd pulled out close to a pitstop's lead twice on the same set of tyres, it was a masterclass, stymied only by events outside of his control. Hence the oddity of the commentators not offering the possibility of a record breaking 8th wdc.
is it normal to grind down aggressive kerbs to advantage a particular Team when there is an absence of complaints from the rest. Which kerbs were known to have been aggressive @ Abu Dhabi?
Well says it all Crofty & Brundle Ted all mentioned turn 14 & 15 way before Latiffe crashed. Preempted accident which I heard a live video day before the race after F1 show They planned no different from Flávio just a pity I did not record it. No faces but voices Quote” Nicolas 200mph into a wall let’s hope it doesn’t come to that “ Also the fact that they also in commentary spoke of Mercedes unprecedented 8th Title but avoid lauding Lewis of his Brilliance. Also Brundle tripping up over himself then styling it out as maybe before it happened saying Max on fresh rubber & going to be a couple of racing laps maybe it was all a plot between them all to stop Lewis winning. Fact is …. We all have a chip on our shoulder apparently
He didn’t know for a fact. Brundle used language like ‘pretty sure’ and ‘probably have a lap of two’ ‘due to the slow pace’. As a commentator he was going off his instincts. As is the case with Brundle and Crafty, sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
How would brundle know about mv tyres coming into play, like he knew what was going to happen. Mercedes was part of this, the more i watch and here your videos and comments, strange.
1) Max had fresher tyres. 2) Brundle and Crofty said it was a Safety Car, and neither mentioned that this would take the average 5 laps to go through thè Safety Car procedures. 3) Brundle claiming we will have 2 racing laps. ??? How did he calculate this. 4) Claiming Max had led the most laps, and was a worthy champion [the whoever was champion they were worthy] 5] 5 cars that Versteppan has to get through with DRS. 6] LECLERC "GETß OUT OF THE WAY" 7] THE REGULATIONS changed that screwed Mercedes 8] "bound to be a couple, and Max fresher tyres will fire up quicker; with the SLOWER LAPS WE WILL BE RACING BY LAP 52" stated by brundle. The Safety Car is supposed to maintain a specified pace and I firmly recall Lewis going mad over it's pace throughout the SC PERIOD.
Yes because if you are shit for a whole season you won't be able to be in a position at the end of said season to be in a position to win it. The last race isn't one race, it's one race out of the whole season. Being shit all season and winning one race won't win you the championship. It really isn't that hard to understand now, is it.
use your brain,max tyres he had on before he pitted were already fresher than hamiltons,.thats why brundle said it,max just opted for even newer,which is what lewis should have done,lewis didnt because he didnt want max passing him whilst he was in the pits..take ya tin hat off
should be two racing laps, how did they know that. Also Latffi was close to Mick Schumacher for lap after lap and then he crashed suddenly? I Think that was a deliberate crash. Also Crofty (?) said "it would take a miracle for Max to win."
@@lindenjames-n6s Ah okay... I see what you mean. I don't agree, but see what you mean. Isn't it okay for the commentators to have been more excited and energetic for Max to have won the championship? Isn't that normal. Lewis had won the last 4 championships and Max was going for his first. Imagine Max going for his 5th title in a row after dominating the sport and then a young driver has finally challenged him and is so close to winning but doesn't quite at the end. It could be felt as an anti-climax. Can you see this? It doesn't mean they hate lewis, other people on this video have called Crofty an elitist racist. Change is good for the sport. And by the way... I am a massive Lewis fan, have been since I started watching the sport in 2008. I don't like Verstappen. But I can put my allegiance to one side, and view the situation from a neutrals perspective.
1. Tyre narrative being mention multiple times, to condition the brain. 2. the mention of the curb 15 & 16 being less aggressive. Mentioning Qatar with Bottas car to liking the curbs 3. talk about lewis points total but immediately down playing it by saying Max have lead the most laps in a season 4. Talk about the Baku grand prix with all the incidents . And mentioning Silverstone to make the Max mob fans get mad at lewis again. 5. talk about Mercedes horrible start and how they recovered after. 6. Mention the Kimi crash at turn 14 in practice to make the view believe that turn 14 is a hard turn Just a mention Lewis could have pit BUT if he did would he have come out in front Max if he didnt pit. When Latifi crashed Lewis was coming down the straight to hairpin on turn 9. this would have give Merc time to calc the time it would take to do a pit stop and to see if Max would pass Lewis. The more I think about it the more I am happy at Lewis is leaving Merc and he should have earlier.
Ted mentions the tyre twist at the start of the video, by saying Max will shave off a few seconds whilst lapping people is ridiculous, That implies Max is faster than lewis, they love to make max a victim, telling goes he was in hospital , they also recognise that Leclerc and Ricardo had been lapped. Brundle says max will have fresher tyres before he actually goes in the pits. It's Max's dream no mention of a record-breaking 8th world title. And then straight into the misinformation about safety Car.
I posted this above. I’m sure you know this, but I thought I would say it: Mercedes was in on the fix. This is how: Toto and Christian Horner came to an agreement to let max win the driver’s championship, allowing Schumacher to keep the record. In exchange for the driver’s title, which Horner has always said that he prefers because it helps with sponsorship, he allowed Wolf to win the constructors. Look at the orders to checo to pit the car and secure Mercedes that title. Wolf had an incentive to seek constructors because he is a large stakeholder/owner of the team, and that was a guaranteed plus £200,000,000 bonus for their team to win it. It lined his pockets and it kept his driver from beating Schumacher: something the German team didn’t want. Ever wonder why wolf didn’t fight the results? Hint: it’s not because he’s a gentleman. He never wanted Hamilton to win that title, and he got what he wanted. Both teams did.
@@dandelion_official4812 to think that Toto did that, giving Max a championship by not fighting it, and then begging Max to come to Mercedes is a huge red flag, and shows that there was a conflict of interest.
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No mention of lewis becoming the record breaking 8 time world champion, Max fresh tyre assumption and preloaded our minds about another tyre twist. I love this channel. Starr making merch
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sometimes, I feel like the commentators are sending messages to the teams with the way they talk because they know the teams are listening.
You are so right 8 have said this for ages now blundell particularly and others over the mike whilst their racing say things over the mike thenxt thing the teams acts on it particularly Red Bull
From this segment of commentary, what parts of the commentary do you think Crofty and Brundle are sending messages to the teams?
@@jackieturner6515 I'll just fix this for you
You are so right m8, have said this for ages now, Brundle particularly and others over the mic whilst they're racing - say things over the mic ... the next thing the teams acts on it, particularly Red Bull.
Still, even written correctly, it's a load of old bollocks.
Not the teams, to us their audience. Neurolinguistic programming used not to free, instead enslaving
I think it is the opposite because there is a 5 min delay between live and broadcasting live. So that give team for teams to tell the commentaries what to say
The commentators first and only thought is that the race could be changed if they get some more laps, but he never mentions the possibility of the race ending under a safety car, as if that wasn’t even an option for him.
"The race ending under a safety Car was never an option" Truuueee
They mention Are we going to have another tyre twist? Norris still on track so is Latifi, Perez also on track. When did Norris pit he is still on track overtook Alonso to move to 8th place. They mention Mercedes winning their 8th championship. They announced we are going to have a couple of laps racing. How can they know this without prior knowledge of how long its going to take to remove Latifi car from the track. Verstappen pits straight away even though the commentary states he was already on fresher tyres than SLH.
Who ever wins? There was absolutely no chance of Hamilton losing apart from a mechanical but they don't mention that possibility but still said , whoever wins
No mention of Lewis becoming 8 time WDC, but say Merc will be 8 time constructor champs.
There was no radio message to Lewis about Verstappen pitting and tyres firing up.
History says that an SC takes longer than what was remaining yet push the narrative of getting it cleared quickly
You have taken ‘whoever wins’ out of context old Derek mate. In context, Crofty stated, ‘we have said it all season long, and especially this weekend though, whoever is champion, both drivers have put in a champion performance all season long’. (Of course, you can disagree with this statement if you wish but that is the context of ‘whoever wins’. A few seconds before he stated this, he also said that Lewis will become Champion and although Max had lead the most laps over the season, it won’t be enough.
history gives an average SC time, 5.5 laps. But, google what average means. Could me more, could be less.
@@Tomtraubert2009 . Ah , but the thing is , look at the lap times from previous SC at AD and compare them with 2021. They were definitely slower , Hamilton even said the SC was going too slow , so slow in fact, it had to weave to try and get tyre temp. The SC gets tyre temp from going flat out where possible.
@@seangreenheld7525. Tbf mate , are you Crofty ?
You have absolutely no idea what context he meant it in , just as I don't. Context is down to interpretation. Plus what I'm referring to was said minutes before the SC coincidence or not !
@@derekdrummond7544So you believe Mr Croft? Makes sense now 😂
Why was Latifi told it’s got to be this lap by his radio in the Tv commentary just before he crashed
@@Scatavic63If your thesis was so damn good why name calling? Aah, maybe humanity had used encrypted communication before.
@@Scatavic63 There were 12 laps to go. There is no precedent, so close to the end of the race, for a driver HAVING to overtake on a particular lap.
hmmmm....interesting
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@@dandelion_official4812here are possibly over 200 examples of a driver HAVING to overtake by a certain lap. For example, in monaco, A lead driver pits from a 20 second lead. They come out in traffic and are 5 seconds a lap slower. They only HAVE 4 laps to pass. At lap 3 the engineer would say "it HAS to be this lap"
@@josephrobson2339Not a comparable example in any way, but nice try. Seeing as you are such a historian of the sport, can you tell me a single example of safety car procedure being executed this way? I'll wait...
Lewis was railroaded…
Max is anything but a gentleman driver…
The FIA safety teams are incompetent…
The presenters lack real-time technical knowledge…
The FIA is corrupted…
They are afraid of Andretti Auto Sport…
Railroaded into 6 WDCs in a fraud car. Yes.
@@wreagfewtf are talking about
@@wreagfehuh? That doesn't even make sense. What do past seasons have to do with this one?
@@rolandoruiz7710 Not the FIA but the other teams are responsible for Andretti not participating in the f1. It’s all about the money, if you share the prize money with eleven teams in stead of ten teams. In my opinion they could find a simple solution for this problem. But you are right, the FIA is as corrupt as can be, that’s the biggest problem in f1.
It is the comment about Vestappen's fresh tyres before he had been asked to pit is the standout thing for me
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
He had fresher tyres and also, it was obvious RB would pit him for new tyres. Even Lewis knew this. Analyse that part of the radio comms. No, I'll bet you won't.
It took approximately 8 secs for the commentators to address the crash. Martin Blunder talk abt max’s tyre even before max pitting for fresher tyre
4:50 The entire dialogue beginning with "Normal service is resumed with Hamilton.." THIS is the reality all those involved in this fix cannot bear to face, Hamilton consistently on another level. It ended with "Mercedes had an awful pre-season and we all thought Mercedes would be in trouble.." The commentary THEN clicks into the Safety Car Choreography: "There's bound to be a couple of laps.." Is another oddball comment.
No it's not an oddball comment seeing as all teams agreed to try and finish races under green when possible.
@@Tomtraubert2009That's not how sport usually works, is it 😂 Do football teams agree prior to a match that they will go to a penalty shootout because that's more entertaining?
@@dandelion_official4812 Oh, that old chestnut. No, but, some games do go straight to pens with no extra time. Replays have also been scrapped in some competitions. So, you're not actually comparing apples with apples here.
@@Tomtraubert2009Right. So the pre-agreement was to fix the race, had they stayed with "when possible" AD21 would have ended under safety car...
@@Tomtraubert2009Even if all team principles agreed to finish the race on green conditions, it doesn't give them the right to ignore safety protocols and rules, and to proceed with something unprecedented.!
I think it is 1nderful, who suggested that DR career to a turn for the worse because he refused to be part of the fix. 1nderful suggests that the cabal is making an example out him. Remember his comment over team radio?
“I’m glad I’m not part of that, whatever just happened. Seemed uh…pretty f*cked up”.
Personally, I’m inclined to believe that suggestion. SLH was racing the entire FIA that season. He just wasn’t aware yet. He’s still racing the entire organisation. But I think he’s aware now…
Alternative view - DR’s career was already taking a turn for the worse after being beaten by Lando in the 2021 championship. Ultimately, DR was not regularly outperforming Tsunoda, he was not fast enough for a promotion to the main team. Also, I don’t think Red Bull rate Tsunoda as being ready for the main seat so DR didn’t stand a chance. If DR blew away Tsunoda I think he stood a chance at getting back to RB.
So now Ricciardo left in 2018 because he didn't want to be part of a fix years (three) later??? You people seriously need to check your minds applying and reversing cause and effect to unrelated events through mindreading.
Danny Ric's career took a turn for the worst every time he made a bad decision - nothing to do with this. He'd have been Perez' replacement after the summer break if he was driving well. He wasn't. Also, if there was a fix and DR wasn't going to partake in it, then how come Christian Horner brought him back into the RB fold? Some of the shit you lot pump out is not well though through. When he jumped to Renault and then from Renault to McLaren, that's what started his mostly downward spiral, nothing else.
How can a 20 man grid all be in on the fix and not say anything 3 years later plus every member of every team?
It can not make sense. It does not make sense.
@@Tomtraubert2009 "How can a 20 man grid all be in on the fix and not say anything 3 years later plus every member of every team?"
opportunism? fear? career ending? made deals?... an old French F1 driver had said nobody talks about it because they fear the backfire... why do you think Lewis doesnt talk about it?... I bet he'll have some words to say once he'll end his own career... for now he still makes milions doing what he likes... driving F1 cars every day... Milking the cow while it still breathe... that's a tremendous self control you witnessing imo
@@wreagfeI would suggest that DR was saying he was happy that he wasn't part of RB when this shambles occured, hence couldn't be questioned as part of the team, but could express his true thoughts on the matter! Did you forget your happy pill this morning? 😂
Love how when Crofty talks about lewis becoming world champion there's no mention that it would be a record breaking 8th then he undermines with the caveat that max has lead more laps then brundle pipes in and starts talking about some of the incidents over the season where either driver had lost points mentioning all the ones where max was 'unlucky' where it was out of his hands and one about lewis locking up in baku making it look like lewis through those points away himself.
Then they bring up max's 33 point lead going into silverstone and how he was 'put in hospital by lewis' making it look like he was by far the better driver both on performance and morally, basically just compiling a list if reasons why what micheal masi is about to do is justified because max 'deserved it more because he's been SO unlucky'.
That conversation ends almost perfectly in time for latifis crash and just before that happened they managed to squeeze in laughing off the FIA's unscheduled change to the regulations to hamper mercedes, and how its not managed to stop them becoming a record breaking 8th time constructors champions but crofty never said that about lewis when he brought up the drivers championship earlier, like there's some sort of agreement to boost Mercedes for Toto but then to not bother when it comes to lewis. It's honestly horrible to listen to them twisting every little detail across the season in that way it's absolutely vile.
@@Scatavic63"8th title rubbish" is a very revealing characterisation 😌
@@Scatavic63 What do court cases have to do with anything? You showed why you're here, saying the things you do again DolfMk2 😉
@@Scatavic63Aah it was a Trump reference 😊 Liberty Media ran his election campaigns so seeing as you are supporting their skewed narrative I'd say you have more similarities to supporters of the orange one than I do 😉
@@Scatavic63My supporters? I don't need any 😂 You fell for a story that was crafted by the same media mogul that got Trump elected. Well done you 😌
@@Scatavic63You 'sorted' your interlocutor wrong proving your biases set may be a little mistaken, you'd rather think some others analisys and evaluations of yours are wrong.
'We need a miracle!'
That's what's pop to me, that you have not mentioned before...
The whole talk was about creating a miracle for max to win. And they did create.
This is interesting. Max did need a miracle to win and indeed he did get his miracle. The real question is… did the miracle occur due to chance? Or did the miracle occur to bending of the rules?
The miracle was created by bending the rules. Indeed from then LH has been frustrated by his team si as not to get the eighth win. Good he is leaving.
The miracle was created by bending the rules. Indeed from then LH has been frustrated by his team si as not to get the eighth win. Good he is leaving.
@@jamesmburu7885 I agree. I guess the point I was trying to make was... were the rules bent in the moment (due to the heat of the stress Michael Masi) or was the bending of the rules preconceived and everyone, including the commentators, was in on it?
Yeah, the release of emotion after his Silverstone win definitely reflects the pain Lewis has felt since AD21.
@@seangreenheld7525The commentary was very suss. The first time I saw it (when it was happening) and everytime I've listened back since I have no other explanation for the "one final racing lap" prediction. It was obvious to me as a frequent viewer that the race was far more likely (ie 100% definitely) going to end under safety car. Meaning Lewis, whatever you think of him, was guaranteed an 8th as long as he could stay on track without a mechanical. This wasn't mentioned. What we got instead was a lot of chat about Max's tyres, which were irrelevant. Because, under the rules of the sport since 2012, that was a safety car finish - no overtaking allowed. If you agree that the procedure wasn't followed correctly, you have to also believe that you know the safety procedures better than everyone on the Sky Sports F1 team... They never called it out, but rather justified and gave credence to it by telling us safety procedures aren't mandatory. Additionally, the decision was upheld by the steward's Committee and Mercedes withdrew their appeal.
I heard it and then it hit me one of the commentators was saying Mercedes going to become constructors champion for the 8 times, but never mention that hamilton going to be 8 times champion. Why didnt he say mercedes and hamilton going to be 8 times champion???
I don’t know why Crofty didn’t mentionLewis becoming an 8 time world champion. However, he did state that Lewis Hamilton will become world champion (5:13)
@@seangreenheld75258x world champion, taking the record from Schumacher. Not really worthy of a mention is it 🤦♂️
Because it was the car and had been the car for 8 years. People easily forget how done people were with the artificial elevation of SLH44 at the expense of the entire sport. No wonder Liberty Media could actually buy it. The sport was a rigged snoozefest.
And now that there's actual competition Mr James Atkins thinks everything is rigged. Amazin'
@@dandelion_official4812 Don't forget this is just a short clip... just because he didn't say it here doesn't mean it wasn't broadcasted at any point. I can just imagine the scenes if Lewis crossed the line in first with the fireworks and Crofty shouting 8 time world champion.
@@seangreenheld7525 I watched it live and was disgusted. Not even a fan of Lewis but I haven't watched F1 since. I KNOW it wasn't broadcasted, so find another angle to defend the indefensible if you like but it won't get you far 😉🤣 AD21 was a fixed race. End. Of. Story.
Got it. Right at the end when latifi crashes Brundle says max’s fresher tyres will fire up when we get racing BEFORE he even goes into the pits to change them. So for a couple of laps before Latvian crashes they were talking the tyre narrative, then we’ve heard Latifi’s crew say gotta be this lap mate (in previous videos) then he crashes and Brundle talks then about Max’s fresher tyres BEFORE HE PITTED.
8:29 "That's where Max Verstappen's much fresher tyres will fire up.." Verstappen hadn't even pitted yet! Claire Voyant must've tyre whispered in Brundle's ear!
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
Its just a little bit sad that lewis could have retired by now, he should have never of lost that even under the safety car, when a team bases their strategy off of something you cant change what they are basing it off after they have already chosen what to do, like it or not, that is called rigging the race, fia even broke their own rules by letting the backmarkers pass. I think max deserved it but he shouldn't have won it. Lewis hamilton WAS robbed and it was an absolute scandal.
Max tyre change was mentioned before way before he came into pit as if it was a script. A FIX CRASH.
I’m glad this video is getting good views
@@Scatavic63 you’re jealous of this channel he already has a video over 100k views and many videos of over 70k views. Lots of people know that F1 is rigged and corrupt
Maybe the human reviewer listened for once 😂
@@dandelion_official4812 unfortunately these people don’t listen his so happy to be brainwashed by sky sports.
@@JamelaY-m9xThe "expertise" of Martin "Best we've ever seen" Brundle et al eh 😂
To be honest, I've never really took notice of the English commentary, as at that time i was watching the spectacle on Sky sports Germany, and never bothered to watch the rerun again after the manipulation.
But after listening to Crofty & Brundle again, that strongly reminded me of Statler and Waldorf from the muppet show, there's some interesting points that could be discussed.
1) Brundle mentioning that Verstappens tyres would be easier to fire up after a restart, was complete humbug. Verstappen was struggling with tyres the whole race, and at that said time he had 17 laps old hard tyres on, how on earth could they have been so easily fired up?
2) From my experience of watching F1, whenever commentators register a collision, they somehow never seem to know exactly who was involved in a collision and how severe the incident really is. But in AD21 while Statler and Waldorf were bantering on, hyping up the crazies, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Crofty in excitement yells that Latifi had crashed and was able to pin-point exactly where he had crashed, sounded to me like a script in a contrived storyline.
Now you see what we Brits mean when we talk about the subtle digs they throw towards Lewis too, right? We have very sneaky racism over here 🙄
@@dandelion_official4812A dat mi a seh.. that's why I migrated, many, many moons ago.
@@dennydee1004I don't blame you, it's a 💩🕳 🙄 and the only reason I remain unconvinced that Lewis was in on the fix...
@@dandelion_official4812You shouldn't look at it like that, but rather that it was a show, and Lewis was well aware of what was going down. Wake up bro, it's a Babylon system, and it's all about deception in these last days.
@@dennydee1004I think he was aware of the pre-agreement. It's just when it played out against HIM he had an issue with it 😂 Doesn't mean it wasn't motivated by racial discrimination, but I can't know anything either way other than this: The safety procedures were compromised, directly preventing an historic achievement, and the associated media not only legitimised this, but predicted and laid the groundwork for it. Anything else is speculation tbh
Martin Brundle: “Max Verstappen’s fresher tires will fire up”. A little while after he made that statement Max Verstappen pitted. Brundle made that statement before Max Verstappen had pitted.
Martin Brundle: “Max ended up in hospital.” You would think from that statement that Max had received some grave injury.
Martin Brundle: “You win a championship over a season.” Yet he speaks of a one lap shootout for the championship between Max and Sir Lewis.
Alternative view:
1. Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
2. The fact is that Verstappen did end up in hospital. As nothing was happening on track they were summarising the key moments in the championship. Brundle was also criticising Verstappen for saying that he wouldn’t have changed his approach at Silverstone, even though it cost him many points in the championship.
3. You do win a championship over a season. This is also a fact.
Max's tyres were fresher because RBR took every opportunity to pit, because they had nothing to lose. At the next opportunity, they pitted again. Are you so delusional you are ignoring basic chronology of events?
"fresher tyres will fire up" - they were fresher
At the next saftey car RBR pitted Max again.
Glad to help.
oh boy, where to start with this. Dogs on the street Max had fresher tyres and was going to pit again too. You win a championship over a season by putting yourself in a position at the end of the season that enables you to beat your rival to the championship be it by a 1-lap shootout or 20 laps, 30 laps, etc.
It isn't a hard concept to grasp.
@@wreagfewhat would you say, if you'd be caught and asked a few questions and for every purposely given wrong answer you'd get publicly whipped by 100 strokes like they give in the country I live in and that I love, because that really hurts and they know how to get the truth out of people like you. What would you say, why the engineer said to Latifi, that this is their last chance before he crashed? Latifi and Schumacher's son were the last ones and had nothing to win and nothing to lose anymore except bringing their expensive cars back safely. So what was THAT LAST CHANCE? Last chance to win the race😂 or last chance to come into the points😂 or last chance to not be late to catch the flight home?😂 What the fu¢k did he mean by that in a situation, where there was only one thing, that he could still do and even for that it was actually already too late, if they had applied the rules correctly, AND THAT WAS THE LAST CHANCE TO CRASH! So if they caught you for the delicious whipping practice session😂, would you tell them, that they meant the last chance to catch the flight home or win the race or get into the points OR WOULD YOU TELL THEM, WHAT YOU KNOW WELL TO BE THE TRUTH , IF "100 DELICIOUS STROKES" WERE AT STAKE? 😂😅🤣🤪 You see, you're only LYING here because you're living within a system, that's evil to the core and is even sharing, supporting and partaking in your lies, but it won't be long and you'll be held responsible for all the lies you've been spewing. Just be a little patient, it's coming 😂
@@Tomtraubert2009😂 oh thank you, I didn't know, that there was a rule, that at the end of a season they can make a last lap shout-out between the first and the second and all the others, who were also fighting for points during the whole season are being excluded from the race and actually the whole season is only to extract the first and the second to make them race a one last lap shout-out. How could I have been so stupid not to have known this easy-to-understand rule 😂. But by the way, can you please show me, where that rule was written, so that Michael Masi could've so easily applied it without having to bend any given rules, that don't even allow such bending by anyone, not even the race director, because I'm searching and searching and searching since 2 and a half years, but I can't find it😂
wowww, ted sure have a crystall ball at his possession 😵😵😵
The only thing I could figure out was that latifi conveniently crashed after Sir Lewis had passed the pit entrance which gave mv the opportunity to change his tires. Oh, I just realized that they crofty was already talking about a tire twist long before latifi conveniently crashed!
Dle mentioned Max's fresher tyres before he pitted
Brundle not Dle sorry
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
All the commentators must undergo a lie detector test.!!!!!!
brundle clearly knew something. he starts to mention tyres and bites his tongue, continues, and THEN says he is pitting !!!
so which is it brundle ?? is he on new tyres before he pits, or is he just putting them on ??
there is no way this isnt setup way before the drivers got to the track.
what with ALL the other radio messages in past videos....... this shit is pure upsetting
Hamilton was rubbed...
He is still trying to recover from it!!
No, merc struggled to give him a car that could consistently challenge.
yeah, could you believe it? you couldn't make it up could ya? your latest videos are getting more and more on the spot, James! nice as always
No they aren't.. What is happening to make you think this is that you're getting more and more immersed in james' echo chamber and can no longer see anything objectively. This is what makes you think each video is getting more and more on point.
"Max Verstappen's fresher tyres will fire up." the crash just happened, but he somehow knew that Max would pit and get fresher tyres and that Lewis would be stuck on 40-lap old hards... How is that possible, unless scripted.
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
Max's tyres were already fresher. SLH hadn't pitted at all outside the normal pit windows, because the safety cars occured at unideal moments for him (just passing pit entry).
Old hard tyres don't "fire up" even if they're fresher than someone else's 😂
@@dandelion_official4812 Max's 22 lap fresher Hard tyres certainly would 'fire up' relative to Lewis's hard. It's called a tyre offset mate. I don't know if you have noticed in Formula 1 before, but trying to gain a tyre offset advantage is a key part to strategy. Even with a 3-5 laps tyre offset, you can have a noticeable improvement in grip and control of tyre temps at the end of a stint. In this case, the offset was 22 laps mate, that is whopping! Hamilton tyres would make him a sitting duck compared to those. After Verstappen put on fresh softs, Lewis was a slaughtered duck.
Latifi crashed at lap 54, bringing tyre narrative to fruition, Lewis was fast on any tyre and kebs being ground down in sections (high speed turns)of the track , causing punctures if Kerb hoping.
What jumps out to me they don't even he's well on his way to his 8th world title that's all about max especially from Crofty
Merc & SLH came on so strong towards the end of the season showing how mentally strong he is over VER & liberty media
Christian Horner said we need a miracle.
Why did we not hear anything about Carlos once Checo pit?
8:33 Max will get confidence in any kind of restart!??!?! What is this????
Due to Verstappen’s 22 lap younger harder tyres at the time, absolutely, he would gain confidence in a restart.
@@seangreenheld7525 I know what you say but in case of a standing start the other car would not change tyres too? So all will put the best out.....
@@Dan_Mone That is true mate. Still, I think Max would gain confidence in that situation because he would be in touching distance to Lewis as opposed to 10+ seconds back.
@@Dan_Mone There never was going to be a standing start, so this point is moot.
Guy with newer tyres will always have an advantage.
sky sports team has such smart and talented actors, oops, f1 experts!! 👏🏼👏🏼 they seem to be always on spot to verify fia is right
It's almost like they knew exactly where Latifi was going to crash. Track clearance crew were at the scene of the crash super quick, like they already knew the location. Max was conveniently coming up to pit lane when the crash occurred. No mention of SLH becoming 8 time WDC at all. Lots of players in play on this one. There were definitely some coded messages being relayed there!
and leading more laps than everyone one is not enough to GIVE MV a world champ title... I though you'd WON that... history showed us that indeed this was given...
The commentator mentioned Verstappen's fresh tyres BEFORE he went in for the pit stop?
Exactly what I noticed Brundle did say! Fresh tires notated before spoonstappen pit.
Max had fresher tires than Hamilton's before that last pitstop for softs...
Well probably cuz he was implying that max should pit.
Didn't he pit twice.
Verstappen did have fresher tires than Hamilton before he made his final pitstop. Lewis made only one stop on lap 14. Verstappen pitted on lap 13 AND lap 35. Therefore, Verstappen had 22 laps fresher hard tyres on which indeed would fire up more quickly than Hamilton’s.
Who actually believes that this safety car procedure was correctly executed? Please explain below, I'm all ears 🤨
even before latifi.s car had stopped crashing brundle shouts safety car??
3:47 "We think the problem curves are turn 15 and turn 16.." Maclaren radio.
That was Hamilton’s team radio. Lewis was on very old tires, and Lando who was also on old tires got a slow puncture. Bono, was advising Lewis to stay off the curbs at turn 15 and 16 to protect his tires.
Martin predicted max s fresh tyres....
Of course knowing, how many times the hornet was asking for a miracle, this is not how human psychology works, when the race is ending and you know, that there won't be any miracle anymore, so you rather want to look away and not see, what's happening, if your team is losing, but you definitely won't be as optimistic as repeatedly "demanding" a miracle 🤔😉 This guy must have extremely good ties to the racing gods, but in this case these racing gods haven't been floating around somewhere in heaven, but I'm still surprised, that he was mentioning this, since it had been a part of the plan and talking about it publicly as he did actually means exposing their dirty plan, or was he afraid, that they had forgotten it? That would mean, that the whole plan wasn't that well prepared and I can't imagine THAT
Crofty making it look like Verstappen so deserved the title because he led more laps.
It was the Latiefi radio call that I did not hear on this post "It has to be this lap"
Did Martin start commentating as if Max had new tyres before he even pitted? I get that the audio is delayed but his comments regarding the upcoming tyre duel come 30 seconds before Max dives in.
Seeing as there appears to be zero contention here that the safety car procedure was not concluded correctly - can anyone explain Martin and Crofty predicting the safety car coming in early and sticking with it? If everyone, regardless of their opinion on this content, has no contention that it was incorrect - surely a commentary team of such experience would also be aware of this...
tyre twist at turns 15 and 16.
They mentioned Verstappen on new fresh tires before he pitted ! He wasn't even at turn 14 !
A lap or two ?
I loved when they say a WDC is won throughout the season not over 1 race !
As it's not my language I'll play it again.
Ivor the boneless has not pitted but yet his much fresher tyres will “fire up”. What a truck load of bs. Thanks man.
Turn 14 & 15 was prepared....
Ted mentioned new tires for Msx before he pitted for them....
Crofty saying Lando Norris’ always ‘races to the line’ and had a stellar last lap’ at AbuDhabi in his debut season. Implying that he is already thinking about/implanting the idea of a last lap to the audience.
-How Marty Brandel knew that Max will have fresh tires before he even pitted.
-there are new that will be a safety car.
-on lap 52!!!
-They already know they will be a safety car
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Someone is hungry for speaking out
@@haj78Very busy today aren't they 😂 I was wondering if it was Dolf in disguise 🤭
Max's "much fresher tires will fire up" - said before Max pitted (M. Brundle)
"because of the slow pace" - said before the safety car came on track and drove unusually slowly (MB)
1. What he had on were fresher.
2. Everyone knew he'd pit for new even fresher ones, even Lewis.
3. It was obvious there'd need to be a safety car, safety car coming on will obviously slow the field to a pace slower than race pace.
4. SC driving slower than people wanted - Lewis complains every time a SC comes on track and always moans about it's pace.
5. It had to be 'slower' to give a chance of bunching the field up quicker to then allow the release of lapped cars and get back to green flag conditions.
6. The SC doesn't have to follow a delta.
@@Tomtraubert2009
1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Agreed
4. No need to inject loaded language
5. Disagree. If it takes an extra lap, it takes an extra lap.
6. Sure, but it needs to drive at a reasonable pace.
FWIW, I don't buy into the Grand Conspiracy, I was mostly just bored and thought deciphering the audio within the "rules of this game" was entertaining. That said, Brundle is a wanker, and Sky's shilling for Max throughout 2021 was unconscionable. Doesn't mean they were conspiring with anyone to do anything - they're just trying to make money, and their management decided that approach was likely to be most profitable.
Well done for sticking to the truth, Stroll and his response.......
Hamilton was 100% cheated out of the championship, but I didn't hear anything amiss here.
Masi broke at least 2 rules which handed Max the win. I don't blame Max, but I do blame his team, Masi and the stewards. I also HATE that Mercedes didn't go all the way through the court case to appeal.
This title should be given Black to Hamilton
Lewis driving hasn’t been the same since Abu Dhabi 2021 I know the 2022 and recent car is not great. But I think his still suffering mentally from Abu Dhabi
I'm stuck on the kerb story here.
The overly aggressive curbs that were ground down on Thursday, sorry Friday were to blame for Norris having "a puncture"
This put him right behind Lewis in front of the lapped cars.
After this we hear that Lewis is back up to speed after negotiating traffic, yet we are told that max could possibly shave seconds off when he comes to tackle those same lapped cars.
Could it be lando was placed there to manage that pack?
Theres so very much wrong but I believe most of it has been covered.
Such as the constant steering of the conversation back to max, never once mentioning that Lewis is set to break the ultimate record in the "sport"
Would max do the same if he were at Silverstone again? Do what again exactly? They placed the blame firmly on Lewis at the time. Adding insult to injury by exaggerating Maxwell's trip to the hospital. Anyone would think he ended up in traction.
I'm sure I've left out a lot. It's twisted from start to finish.
The thing that leaps out at me is the instant response by the commentators that it will 'be a full safety car'. But anyway, it was not this, but the selective nature of the restart and subsequent approval by the stewards that will always stick in my throat. The 'Arabs' were up to something that day.
Brundle: This now changes the context of this race, if they can clear out the Williams in time and we can have a couple of laps racing to the Chequred flag.
Crofty: There's bound to be a couple of cause, that's where Max Vestapen's fresher tires wil fire up and give him the confidence on any kind of restart.
That was approximately 33 seconds before Max pitted.
People here keep saying about hard tyres on Max' car firing up quicker than Lewis'. Whilst this may be partly true, it sounds like its written to suit s narrative to me.
Old hards vs older hards (that Lewis was lapping faster on btw) would have a marginal gain if they restarted with those. More rubber, but they still both suffer the exact same problem when running at safety car speeds. They both would fire up slowly.
Also, why the heck would you not pit for softs in Red Bull's situation. It was literally nothing to lose, a complete no brainer, so i think this 22 vs 40+ lap old hard tyres talk is moot. It just wouldn't happen and make that much difference. If Lewis was SLOWER than Max on those old hards they may have a sliver of a point, but it makes no sense to me given the context.
It is almost certain Brundle was talking about new tyres for Red Bull imo. It is a no brainer and I think the "altenative viewpoint" definitely just suits a narrative. A preferred outcome. It is illogical and barely logical at the same time.
Also, have it their way and Carlos is on fresh rubber, or fresher rubber, rhat still leaves him free to attack for a win, except it didn't. It just benefitted one driver and every driver bar Max and Lewis was just forgotten about. That stinks. It is so called sport and sporting fairness applies to ALL drivers and teams. I just smh when people keep denying what their eyes snd ears tell them, for their own desired outcomes. I hope the truth comes out one dsy about this.
I was probably one of the only people unsurprised by it. I called before it happened there would be a safety car with 5 laps to go. I thought Merc would be tricked into boxing though, but they correctly stayed out. People can call BS if they want, but that's true, so i must be psychic or something.
Where is the mention of Lewis' (potential at the time) record breaking 8th championship? For all those who shout Brit bias at everything, where was that mentioned? Brit commentary, pundits yet diddly squat about history in the making. Suspicious that they just mention Mercedes 8th constructors. Lots of other things going on in there too, "tyres, tyres, tyres" when Lewis mentions the SC not going full gas down the straights, uet rhat was onky one consideration. The other was rhe laps ticking by more slowly sllowing more time for Latifi's car to be moved, which wasn't even attempted to be moved under its own power back to rhe pits. The more you look and hear, fhe more things don't add up.
W comment of epic proportions 🙏🔥💯
I would love to know what was so urgent on that particular lap, for the Latifi team to tell him it had to be this lap, which was a lot that he crashed that miraculously enabled all of this happen.
They can argue about it in the replies but don't seem to be rushing to explain when asked directly. Hmmm 🤔🤣 I've been wondering too, hopefully someone will enlighten us soon 😌
yeah a tire twist with Lewis literally the fastest thing on earth that day. I actually felt bad for the lack of pace in Max's car. It was unreal, and Bottas was nowhere when it mattered but Checo was the biggest blocker the sport has ever seen, observed by all. But guess who's labelled with a "wingman"?
Perez did nothing wrong, drove defensively to protect his own position and for the team.
@@Tomtraubert2009 exactly
I found 3 parts of that commentary segment of note.
#1 Failure to acknowledge Hamilton's record breaking 8th wdc.
#2 Tacit admission that the crash at Silverstone was Verstappen's fault.
#3 Failure to mention Verstappen's driving standards, either attempting to crash into Hamilton(Brazil), or succeeding to (Monza, Saudi, Silverstone etc).
you should also highlight williams' radio message to latifi at the beginning of the lap where he crashed
It was a comment referring that he needs to “do it now” to get it done.
@@patrickoceonThat was a reference to passing Schumacher... Williams is a Mercedes supplied team.
🎯
@@stevenanthony578Why did he have to overtake that particular lap? Is that even a thing? You can overtake on any lap, as long as you get it done before the line no?
@@dandelion_official4812not even fighting for points, makes suspicion even worse
The irony of Brundle's comment "a championship is won over the course of a season, not one race".
They didn't even talk about the 8th record breaking WDC for Hamilton but talked about Mercedes 8th constructors championship
Obviously Ted talking about a further tyre twist. Brundle talking about Max's much fresher tyres will fire up, when he was never faster than Lewis on the throughout that race, after one of his many pits. Why was Lewis on a set of tyres from lap 14?
Another fantastic video James 🙏
When Crofty mentioned Silverstone Brundle talks about Brazil, commentary box and then team radio talking about angle grinding kerbs at same time. Those are two things that stick out. Also maybe the five car narrative between Verstrappon and Lewis after lando rejoins after his puncture, so again driving the tyre and 5 car narrative.
EDIT after reading a few comments now I will add Brundle pushing the narrative The season is won after a season not one race.
Yes because if you are shit for a whole season you won't be able to be in a position at the end of said season to be in a position to win it. The last race isn't one race, it's one race out of the whole season. Being shit all season and winning one race won't win you the championship.
It really isn't that hard to understand now, is it.
Adverts on this one too. Thought it was "unsuitable for advertising" TH-cam 🤨
All i could think for the first 5 mins is why am I torturing myself with this again? Then i gave up and stopped to save my blood pressure a bit. The end.
It is torturous mate. Wish things panned out differently.
You mean James' pushing of a fix or the whole fix?
@@Tomtraubert2009 i got past the intro and then thought i'd try the challenge. then as i started it immediately felt like rewatching the end of a tragedy with a depressing ending in which your favorite character, the hero, unjustly gets killed by the bad guy. kind of like gladiator but way worse. and that wasn't an experience i wanted to repeat.
"Have we got another tire twist"... kerbs ground down. Max got wiped out by Bottas "playing billiards in Hungary"(?). "You win an championship over a season, not a race... yet their entire portrayal of events from the Sky boys was about the season coming down to one race - and really, just the post Latifi "crash." And, Hamilton had the same tires since ---- LAP 14?!?! "With 5 to go, they'll probably have a lap or two..."
That's all I caught.
‘Have we got another tyre twist’. This clip doesn’t show what Ted was saying fully. I think he was referring to someone who got a puncture maybe. I think he was referring to the possibility of Lewis getting a puncture because he was on such old hard tyres. This is were the ‘we need a miracle’ quote sprouted from.
Of course, the media enjoyed hyping the last race of the season as it was the decider. But of course, you do win a championship over a season, not a race. I think it’s a great quote personally!
Nice to see your subscriber count is climbing still. A bit slower than we all want and need. Have you considered bending to youtubes whim and doing youtube shorts to get a wider horizon?
I think that's a great call 😮 shorts please.
@@usernametakenGT7 haha, James doing shorts! Not a chance. No way can he say anything in a minute that might hit a point he's trying to make.
💯💯💯💯
@@Tomtraubert2009 Could clip; parts of the current videos to get the point across.
Not one mention of lewis becoming an 8 time world champ and breaking all records is very very suspicious to me ,it was all set up to stop him like what they did in his rookie season.
Because the entire sport and fans were done with 8 years of rigged Mercedes fraud an cheating. No on ereally wanted to see this artificially elevated average driver be among the greats of the sport based on this. That's why it wasn;t talked about. Also SLH44's toxicity and implementing politics didn't really help. F1 fans are/were normal middle class people that do not put up with that bs.
@@wreagfeNormal middle class... White people?
@@Scatavic63 The point is that it was not mentioned during the closing laps. They provided no context as to what was at stake. This is not usual.
@@Scatavic63You have mentioned Lewis's potential for an 8th more than Brundle did when he was racing for it 😌
@@Scatavic63Clip clop troll 👍
How did the commentator know that Maxs” fresher tires would fire up if Max wasn’t on fresh tires at the time he made the comment Max had not even entered the pit at that point!
I found it interesting that the commentator stated that “Red needed a miracle”, and Coincidentally Latifi was told it that” had to be this lap”, and on that lap Latino crashes, and then Max’s miracle was born. Seems like there were a lot of hands in that pot stirring it up.
Anyways, just my opinion
Max was already on fresher tyres, he had a free pit stop at the first safety car too.
That would make sense and maybe does make sense.
What the tires that max were on or not that better than the one Luis was on. Or else would not have had to come in to get new tires. So for the commentator to make that remark, maxs tire's would have had been much newer, but as they were running prior to the latifi scandalous crash,, max was not gaining on Lewis.
@@greghall8363 You got it, max's tyres had done about half the number of laps lewis's had done and there was a concern that lewis might be getting close to the "cliff" where performance drops off completely. As to performance, Lewis was in a different league on that day. He'd pulled out close to a pitstop's lead twice on the same set of tyres, it was a masterclass, stymied only by events outside of his control. Hence the oddity of the commentators not offering the possibility of a record breaking 8th wdc.
is it normal to grind down aggressive kerbs to advantage a particular Team when there is an absence of complaints from the rest. Which kerbs were known to have been aggressive @ Abu Dhabi?
Cue the mercedes team radio!
Even though I have this channel set to ALL notifications, this video is not in my notifications, only saw it because it was a suggested video.
TH-cam are trying to stop this information getting out .They are also taking his likes down .Thats what he is up against
They are also stopping him earning money from the videos saying it’s not what advertisers would want then go ahead and put adverts on it
I am a subscriber and get notifications hours after the videos are posted 😮
CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!
@@stevenriechert like many other F1 youtubers Formula One Management are going after everyone using their content.
Well says it all Crofty & Brundle Ted all mentioned turn 14 & 15 way before Latiffe crashed. Preempted accident which I heard a live video day before the race after F1 show They planned no different from Flávio just a pity I did not record it. No faces but voices Quote” Nicolas 200mph into a wall let’s hope it doesn’t come to that “ Also the fact that they also in commentary spoke of Mercedes unprecedented 8th Title but avoid lauding Lewis of his Brilliance. Also Brundle tripping up over himself then styling it out as maybe before it happened saying Max on fresh rubber & going to be a couple of racing laps maybe it was all a plot between them all to stop Lewis winning. Fact is …. We all have a chip on our shoulder apparently
There is the suggestion : they will PROBABLY clear the Williams within 3 laps and one or two laps racing !
How would he know the crash would be cleaned up in time to finish under the green flag immediately after the crash?🤔 I smell fish🤭
He didn’t know for a fact. Brundle used language like ‘pretty sure’ and ‘probably have a lap of two’ ‘due to the slow pace’. As a commentator he was going off his instincts. As is the case with Brundle and Crafty, sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.
13 thumbs up. 😁
Lap 52 is it Brundle? 🤣
How did Martin Brundle know that Lewis wasn’t going to pit and therefore assume Max was going to have fresher tyres? Perhaps he was in on the plan.
How would brundle know about mv tyres coming into play, like he knew what was going to happen.
Mercedes was part of this, the more i watch and here your videos and comments, strange.
Exactly what I'm also saying and mentioning that Mercedes would be 8 time wcc and not mentioning that SLH would be 8 time wdc
1) Max had fresher tyres.
2) Brundle and Crofty said it was a Safety Car, and neither mentioned that this would take the average 5 laps to go through thè Safety Car procedures.
3) Brundle claiming we will have 2 racing laps. ??? How did he calculate this.
4) Claiming Max had led the most laps, and was a worthy champion [the whoever was champion they were worthy]
5] 5 cars that Versteppan has to get through with DRS.
6] LECLERC "GETß OUT OF THE WAY"
7] THE REGULATIONS changed that screwed Mercedes
8] "bound to be a couple, and Max fresher tyres will fire up quicker; with the SLOWER LAPS WE WILL BE RACING BY LAP 52" stated by brundle. The Safety Car is supposed to maintain a specified pace and I firmly recall Lewis going mad over it's pace throughout the SC PERIOD.
The thing that came to me was you won a championship over the season and not one race.
Is this not true?
Yes because if you are shit for a whole season you won't be able to be in a position at the end of said season to be in a position to win it. The last race isn't one race, it's one race out of the whole season. Being shit all season and winning one race won't win you the championship.
It really isn't that hard to understand now, is it.
Wow,Kimi is not in the sport that season,why Croft use his name at that point?!In which practice and when this happen ?
I see a lot of arguments in the comments so I'll ask again: does anyone believe the safety car procedure was executed correctly? And if so, why.
I think what you are referring to is, psychological manipulation and the power of suggestion! In this case to do with tyres.
Brundle got ahead of the script. How did he know his fresher tires would fire up before he even got to the pit.
use your brain,max tyres he had on before he pitted were already fresher than hamiltons,.thats why brundle said it,max just opted for even newer,which is what lewis should have done,lewis didnt because he didnt want max passing him whilst he was in the pits..take ya tin hat off
@@slyleggs4344Old hards don't "fire up" even if they're a few laps younger than someone else's.
should be two racing laps, how did they know that. Also Latffi was close to Mick Schumacher for lap after lap and then he crashed suddenly? I Think that was a deliberate crash. Also Crofty (?) said "it would take a miracle for Max to win."
Listening again for the Nth time I hear brundel you win a championship over a season not a race
Is that statement not a pure fact? (You win a championship over a season not a race)
Yes but how it's said implying that max should win the championship because he's won more races
@@lindenjames-n6s Ah okay... I see what you mean. I don't agree, but see what you mean.
Isn't it okay for the commentators to have been more excited and energetic for Max to have won the championship? Isn't that normal. Lewis had won the last 4 championships and Max was going for his first.
Imagine Max going for his 5th title in a row after dominating the sport and then a young driver has finally challenged him and is so close to winning but doesn't quite at the end. It could be felt as an anti-climax. Can you see this?
It doesn't mean they hate lewis, other people on this video have called Crofty an elitist racist. Change is good for the sport.
And by the way... I am a massive Lewis fan, have been since I started watching the sport in 2008. I don't like Verstappen. But I can put my allegiance to one side, and view the situation from a neutrals perspective.
1. Tyre narrative being mention multiple times, to condition the brain.
2. the mention of the curb 15 & 16 being less aggressive. Mentioning Qatar with Bottas car to liking the curbs
3. talk about lewis points total but immediately down playing it by saying Max have lead the most laps in a season
4. Talk about the Baku grand prix with all the incidents . And mentioning Silverstone to make the Max mob fans get mad at lewis again.
5. talk about Mercedes horrible start and how they recovered after.
6. Mention the Kimi crash at turn 14 in practice to make the view believe that turn 14 is a hard turn
Just a mention Lewis could have pit BUT if he did would he have come out in front Max if he didnt pit. When Latifi crashed Lewis was coming down the straight to hairpin on turn 9. this would have give Merc time to calc the time it would take to do a pit stop and to see if Max would pass Lewis. The more I think about it the more I am happy at Lewis is leaving Merc and he should have earlier.
Based! Excellent breakdown thank you 🙏🔥💛
Ted mentions the tyre twist at the start of the video, by saying Max will shave off a few seconds whilst lapping people is ridiculous, That implies Max is faster than lewis, they love to make max a victim, telling goes he was in hospital , they also recognise that Leclerc and Ricardo had been lapped. Brundle says max will have fresher tyres before he actually goes in the pits. It's Max's dream no mention of a record-breaking 8th world title. And then straight into the misinformation about safety Car.
Would love a Red Bull fan come on here and explain why Perez was forcibly retired....answers on a postcard...
I also would love to know this!
I posted this above. I’m sure you know this, but I thought I would say it: Mercedes was in on the fix. This is how: Toto and Christian Horner came to an agreement to let max win the driver’s championship, allowing Schumacher to keep the record. In exchange for the driver’s title, which Horner has always said that he prefers because it helps with sponsorship, he allowed Wolf to win the constructors. Look at the orders to checo to pit the car and secure Mercedes that title. Wolf had an incentive to seek constructors because he is a large stakeholder/owner of the team, and that was a guaranteed plus £200,000,000 bonus for their team to win it. It lined his pockets and it kept his driver from beating Schumacher: something the German team didn’t want. Ever wonder why wolf didn’t fight the results? Hint: it’s not because he’s a gentleman. He never wanted Hamilton to win that title, and he got what he wanted. Both teams did.
@@caryg4638 I am inclined to agree with you 🙄 Wolf certainly celebrated that constructors win didn't he, so much so he was in the press for it 😑
@@dandelion_official4812 to think that Toto did that, giving Max a championship by not fighting it, and then begging Max to come to Mercedes is a huge red flag, and shows that there was a conflict of interest.
Still waiting for those red bull fools....
Mv needed to get past a few cars to allow him to catch up, he was still behind a few places to catch Lewis . Did Mv come out behind Pereze ?????