Afterburn is Bait! Don’t Let Burnice’s Kit Fool You | Zenless Zone Zero

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  • Burnice is more complex than she initially looked. And you won't notice them when pairing her with Jane.
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  • @keyto5526
    @keyto5526 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Summary- adjust your playstyle according how fast you use your energy on anomaly buildup. If energy is not a problem, just burn all the way with double flame throwers.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That is correct. And I'm gonna pin u now 🧿

  • @RupeshBagha
    @RupeshBagha 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +223

    Bruh, after seeing that trailer, I don’t care about teams-I’m pulling for Burnice no matter what!

    • @boonduckgod1655
      @boonduckgod1655 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Thick and cheerful I just hope the 50/50 don’t F me

    • @lucasc5651
      @lucasc5651 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      thats what i said too xd

    • @Ma-wv9bn
      @Ma-wv9bn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fax

    • @handsomepikachu5646
      @handsomepikachu5646 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      same

    • @pandemonium764
      @pandemonium764 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've saved up 160 pulls for her. I will have the bubbly pyromaniac

  • @SuperRamos619
    @SuperRamos619 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +151

    Its not a trap if i walk into it willingly.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      The trap is afterburn mechanic, not burnice

    • @al8704
      @al8704 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ love the vid but most people just wanna have fun. Try being more positive but still communicating the same info you're trying to communicate.

    • @dullahan3650
      @dullahan3650 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@al8704 hes being very positive already? if you just wanna have fun maybe don't watch meta analysis videos lol

    • @al8704
      @al8704 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dullahan3650 nah bro needs to work on his structuring. He's been doing a great job already this is like the only vid where I have a small suggestion.

    • @ByllionBucks
      @ByllionBucks 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its not a trap, its a face off

  • @yoshineitor
    @yoshineitor 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Some guys did the math and Electro + Burn disorders work the best because they have higher attack scaling and when you proc disorder it consumes all damage ticks left. Mihoyo is well aware of this and according to the math of dev server guys one rotation of Yanagi + Burnice deals more damage than what Jane + Burnice deals thanks to Yanagi's kit being more oriented at increasing Disorder burst.

    • @Liger_Soba
      @Liger_Soba 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man I love math guys, truly the goats of ZZZ

  • @The10shE
    @The10shE 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Some people said "Afterburn can Crit" And I think Yeah, I can see an afterburn dmg of 16k then all of a sudden it become doubled 30k+ then the disorder dmg.
    I'm playing my games in casual way and top-up monthly and BP.
    I only pull Characters, and I don't pull for W-Engines or Weapons like I did on GI and HSR to challenge myself from BP or F2P Weapons.
    I already cleared the Shiyu Defense Crit Nodes on 7/7 All S using my A-rank W-Engine Jane Team and A-rank W-Engine Burnice Team.
    Jane Team - Nicole, Jane n Seth - Police Bangboo
    Burnice Team - Burnice, Piper n Lucy - The SoC Bangboo. I place Piper after Burnice bcoz when I used Ulti on Burnice, Piper can Perfect Assist and I can trigger 2 Disorder of Burn and Shock in that 4 seconds of Burnice Ulti using Piper Ex-skill.
    I don't play seriously and I manage to S all nodes 7/7 without change party members, or swap. finishing 7th node with Burnice Team doing 2:00 mins surpassing my Jane Team of 2:29mins. Well the 1st part don't have Physical Weakness, so Its fair game, If i use Jane on 2nd part which has Fire and Physical weakness It will be over in a minute.
    IF Burnice's Afterburn can really Crit, It is a godly skill. u dont need AP on the Afterburn dmg. U only need the Fix 300AP and the more ATK you have plus the CV, its can do 100k per afterburn if oyu have "50/200 CV - 3000 ATK - 300AP" The dmg of afterburn is Base on ATK and CV. but you need 300AP to get the additional 30% dmg. 1% is to 10 AP = 300AP

  • @maxthecamper5752
    @maxthecamper5752 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    yanagi will be the perfect pair for burnice solely because yanagi is also a disorder-focused agent (iirc her kit makes her trigger disorder with a 600% multipier and basing from her leaked gameplay, she's an on field anomaly)

    • @res6148
      @res6148 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Theres been some changes to make her less reliant on other anomaly typings but they still go together like fish and chips

    • @Liger_Soba
      @Liger_Soba 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pretty sure it's 400 now

    • @maxthecamper5752
      @maxthecamper5752 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@res6148 yeah her disorder dmg was nerfed to 400% but they made it so yanagi can trigger disorder without the need of another element

  • @totalwayne3089
    @totalwayne3089 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The first content creator that shows the value of the single-flame thrower 👍 What I figured out in the training: The double flame blast or flame blast itself is the most energy efficient way to get fuel and build up anomaly. Nobody mentioned that. In practical we can use the blast, whenever we are about to swap or parry to another agent.

  • @Ayane690PwnJitsu
    @Ayane690PwnJitsu 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Not only does this video contradicts 90% of the other burnice videos but i also have a M1 ceasar.
    Ki$$ my ass, burnice is meant to tag with yanagi...

  • @vladys001
    @vladys001 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Until disorder will be able to crit it doesn't matter how big disorder number you will get. It will just "consume" all ticks and allow you to apply anomalies again

  • @Lordmaster316
    @Lordmaster316 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Me after watching this video :
    *Unga bunga attacks*

  • @troit1550
    @troit1550 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    yanagi is capable of trigger disorder on mono electric when she retriggers the anomaly with a 400% dmg increase from*normal* disorder so its insanely good to trigger anomaly fast with her and burnice

  • @escadora2206
    @escadora2206 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    You should have named this vid more like "How to optimize Burnice's dps" or smth because losing 10-20% of damage is not worth overthinking all of this imop :/

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It's gonna be a significant DPS drop of once she's teamed with Yanagi, because again, after burn + double flame thrower rotation doesn't build fire fast enough. And likely in 3-4 rotations, a double proc of the other anomaly will happen.

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@escadora2206 losing 10-20% damage is significant, especially on the Shiyu Defense. Imagine being late for 1-2 seconds because of not enough damage.
      Unless you don't even care about the endgame content then this video is not for you.

    • @escadora2206
      @escadora2206 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ I don't really plan to play her with yanagi. In fact I don't even wanna get her, so im probably not the target audience anyway so no worries

    • @escadora2206
      @escadora2206 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@FDReiter Im not yet really optimizing anything tbh, i try to lvl up my characters and their skills and barely farm discs due to it beeing rng (not guaranteed progress). I also feel like many of the aspects also refer to burnice beeing played with yanagi, but i don't plan on getting yanagi so I'm probably not the target audience.

    • @joverifico
      @joverifico 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It's significant and its a good point that's rarely talked about. It's about the rotations. 20% is also huge wth are you on OP?

  • @FDReiter
    @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    as a low spender, I'm confident enough that I'll get Burnice, Yanagi, and Miyabi (just the characters, not sure about W-engine)

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      W-engine are never needed. Even if the signiture's power is significantantly on release, some kind of event W-Engine will catch up eventually.

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ thank you, because the only W-engine I pull is Jane's signature (And I'm broke because of it, and I lost 50/50 on Caesar)

    • @Rainbowsaur
      @Rainbowsaur 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FDReiter You have Jane and her sig, went for Ceasar and missed. And now broke assuming you mean 0 currency. And you're optimistic about a character when they release. Assuming the worst luck you're gonna need around 60-75k currency, with half of that if you win all 50%'s. Doesn't seem too out of reality to get that much currency within the next 3-4 patches, so yeah nice.

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Rainbowsaur unless I already have 20 tickets (or whatever it is) and just 40 more pulls, so yeah I'm very optimistic 😀
      Also, that monthly membership saved me from a "completely broke" state and I ended up getting Zhu Yuan because of losing 50/50 on Ellen, and I got Jane because of losing 50/50 on Qingyi so don't worry

    • @keyto5526
      @keyto5526 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Limited W-engine is meant to break time records like 40s or less e.g. with Zhu Yuan's signature in Shiyu Defence. Lucky there is no such rewards yet in any event or in game achievement, otherwise people who are completionism will get those limited w-engine

  • @danielgeronimo5538
    @danielgeronimo5538 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, I dunno....
    Crit S11, anomaly Burnice, and Piper are currently making quick work of things.
    Oh and also with Butler Bangboo, that means I can build up anomalies faster and trigger disorders more frequently.

  • @qeinz
    @qeinz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    a bit out of topic, the patters continues to lighter being a fire stunner that can also buff ice dmg. his synergy also activates when there's attacker in your team, not the same attribute as him. assuming miyabi would be after lighter, they really want to pair lighter with miyabi

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I think the issue with Zenless's team being 3 character instead of 4 is starting to show. The "meta" teams are starting to feel unflexable :/

    • @Hjortur95
      @Hjortur95 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      rip my boy lycaon

    • @horokai
      @horokai 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Indeed, this probably is gonna work even if she’s an anomaly ice agent, because shatter is pretty much like assaults you are gonna be able to play here as a mono ice carry as well, rip Ellen.

    • @remomareno
      @remomareno 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@horokai Lighter will really require a attacker agent to activate his additional ability which is a vital part of his kit

  • @cubetto_
    @cubetto_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    nah this video is so cap, many testings where done on her and everything weights in favor of playing her off field, you saying she's a quick swapper it's just bad, she was litteraly made to be an off field pg, from kit to wengine to disks. You can play her on field by playing her as an hyper carry going crit but the playstyle you suggest here it's just plain useless, you lose on everything, more so because you take time away from jane wich wants 95% field time and yanagi from what we know we'll be similar to an electric jane so she too wants on field time. Also if you use pgs like seth who can boost anomaly build up burnice can proc burn with 1 rotation then you just rinse and repeat, do not listen to this video people, it's bad bad.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Jane also increase the speed of OTHER characters anomaly build up.
      And sure, let's say Yanagi want on field time (no leaks, ty). Unless she have part in her kit that let her get full benefit when overriding her own shock proc with another one,
      In just 3-4 rotations (using Jane speed as reference) between the two, you will likely get 2 shock back to back.
      This is the entire problem of just playing her purely with afterburn.
      The rotation speed will be off very quickly.

    • @Al-nc2ys
      @Al-nc2ys 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      One of her main benefits is the disorder procs. The faster you can get it off, the higher the disorder damage, so saying that creating disorder is a damage loss because you are no longer burning is kinda disingenuous. That or you're just not understanding how disorder works and are spreading misinformation

    • @smexxxxy
      @smexxxxy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Burnice off-field app is much slower than Jane. If you just keep her off field you will end up triggering more assaults than burns which means less disorders.

    • @hua..
      @hua.. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Seems like you didn't read or understand any of the testing then. You want her to reapply anomaly with her ex whenever possible, the afterburn serves more to alleviate the amount of time needed to apply subsequent burns rather than something you rely 100% on for anomaly applications. She is a quick swap character, her entire kit works that way, including her signature engine and even the disk set, seeing as it has a lingering effect on the off field buff, precisely for her to quick swap back on field every so often

    • @cubetto_
      @cubetto_ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@hua.. you want to bring her out only when her charge is depleted, and then let her go off field again. The moment you bring her up you'll already have the burn proc or you're 1 basic from doing it, so you just ex again and go off. what he's saying to do her lines of combos and only after doing a full rotation of burnice you swap her off wich it's not needed, you lose on a lot of buffs and dmg + you rob time off of the main fielder. Seems like you didn't understand nothing, her whole kit/effects and playsyle is based off of that.

  • @TshepiMokoena
    @TshepiMokoena 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I prodominately need Burnice since I have neither Koleda or Soldier 11; I already have Jane which is why I'm skipping Ceasar, but seeing that her team comp can also have grace, I already have a team for her when she comes out. I just need an S-rank ice dealer then I'll have all my bases covered. thanks for the explanation, can't wait for this Wednesday, fingers crossed.

  • @yoshifan2334
    @yoshifan2334 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't have the tapes to run her with Caeser, but do have Jane, biggest worry im having is not being able to keep heat up due to having to dodge out of EX constantly, since theres not really a good anti interrupt option besides caeser yet

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You can use your movestick whiel she's using her single barral flame thrower, and she will dodge to the side and continue with her ex special.

  • @Eric-lf4fm
    @Eric-lf4fm 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Going to walk into the trap but i will save the video for later for future help. I am slow with learning these games.

  • @LALITKUMAR-yw5xn
    @LALITKUMAR-yw5xn 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Holy that makes so much more sense, i knew there would be no way hoyoverse would put energy regen on a weapon, but the character somehow doesn't needs it.

    • @princeksean5047
      @princeksean5047 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wym, anton had Regen?

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@princeksean5047 and Lucy

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They absolutely both needs regen though lol. Anton without Regen need to relay on a "exploit" to work.

    • @kuroh0241
      @kuroh0241 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ Doesn't your video literally say she doesn't need much energy because you can just use single barrel skill.

  • @tomatopawah6877
    @tomatopawah6877 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    For the geniuses who are leaving comments saying "Dont care, I will still pull for her"
    That's not the point of the video.

    • @qeinz
      @qeinz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      they shouldn't click the video in the first place lmao

    • @Sourballen
      @Sourballen 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah, did they even watch the video before commenting

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@tomatopawah6877 Ikr? this video is for people who care about her kit. If you don't care about it anyway, why bother to watch it? or just simply close the video.

    • @Evan-ru6ro
      @Evan-ru6ro 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Dont care, I will still pull for her

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Evan-ru6ro liar. You care so much you even bother to reply to this comment

  • @MrDee001
    @MrDee001 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This vid answered a lot of questions. Thanks.

  • @-grumpygold1155
    @-grumpygold1155 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i think you should consider this style if you arent getting her sig, what it does is it increases your dmg upto 70% + 50 AP when she is off field on top of her 0.6 energy gen. i also suspect that its good enough to alleviate from playing quick swap so u can be 'lazy' by playing off her heat, basically rewarding whoever that got her sig, on paper anyway

  • @shivamrawat3719
    @shivamrawat3719 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Remember, waifu over meta

  • @thekaibenz
    @thekaibenz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    damn im new to ZZZ and all its terminology. I play because the characters, arts look cool. Didnt know it is this deep 😭

    • @EtherealRune
      @EtherealRune 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can make any topic a deep/scientific one.
      Don't get intimidated, nothing in this (or other videos) is necessary to clear the game or it's end-game content.
      You can absolutely unga-bunga stuff if you build your characters half-decently.
      People just like to deep-dive into stuff in order to shave off seconds of their clear-time for various reasons.
      Bragging rights, self-imposed challenge, e-peen comparison.
      It really doesn't matter.

    • @danielgeronimo5538
      @danielgeronimo5538 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@EtherealRuneYou can brute force your way in ZZZ but knowing certain builds does help. I do think however the information on this video is kinda...well maybe not pointless but unless you're relying on the promised crit afterburn you won't need any of this much.
      Also certain factors aren't really included. For instance, having a Butler Bangboo is sure guarantee you will never run out of energy and you can trigger anomalies any day of the week.

  • @ChaoSTrophicS
    @ChaoSTrophicS 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As Joker would say: why soo serious! 🤡

    • @yuorion3056
      @yuorion3056 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      is it because she looks like harley

  • @xamdcrownwell5499
    @xamdcrownwell5499 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On FIeld Burnice Team
    here i fcking GOOOO!!!

  • @gage5480
    @gage5480 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Alas, Burnice is a pass. My Jane team is so damn strong already, don't see how Burnice will help.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Burnice will not help (atleast not much)
      Burnice + Yanagi is the one with potential.

  • @beserklee290
    @beserklee290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yes! you needs AP as higher as possible rather cap it at 300

  • @mohammadamaan3140
    @mohammadamaan3140 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And I am a fish

  • @CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero
    @CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't know if you have had the chance to play with Yanagi yet (obviously you couldn't say abything about it if you have) but some of the leaks make it look like Yanagi will be ok to not attempt to proc disorder every 3 seconds. But my info is sketchy at best

  • @Steven-iw5cj
    @Steven-iw5cj 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wanted caeser... Got Rina...
    I am getting burnice.

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good take

  • @skulkywulky6882
    @skulkywulky6882 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If shes bait then im a fish. Glub glub glub

  • @russellpierce3987
    @russellpierce3987 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so basically you just want to use her energy more than her heat, use extra heat to use charged basic for more anomaly, use single ex into double poof for less dps but more overall anomaly damage. burnice's kit never seemed like the part of her that was going to be most interesting to me, all of these sorts of little tricks to making the most of the team are why i'm excited for her most, personally the disorder team being very involved is fun to me

  • @negative2positve380
    @negative2positve380 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pulling her for grace team and hoping for the best

  • @bookmarker2891
    @bookmarker2891 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video ty

  • @passive7923
    @passive7923 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wouldn't be here looking for how to build her if the rng gods just gave me a 1 copy of Nicole.
    Im still salty since im saving up for limited support or attack and their w-engine. Now i have 0 chromes dang it!

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If this makes you feels better, I have 1 single primo in genshin rn 🧿

    • @passive7923
      @passive7923 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ it doesn't because I'm also broke in Genshin after getting Xilonen and her weapon. Lmao

  • @deathwaltz
    @deathwaltz 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Can anyone translate this in razor language?

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't build crit.
      Double flame thrower + afterburn not fast enough applying flame.
      Use single flame thrower + double shotgun (hold ex special than tap) for more anomaly build up with same amount of energy.

  • @boss0q0
    @boss0q0 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    watching this video like im winning my 5050

  • @edarthel4394
    @edarthel4394 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I see you mentioned piper's engine as an option, is it good ? I kept wondering because apparently the afterburn doesn't maintain the passive effect.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are correct, after burn does NOT maintain the passive. But with this playstyles most build up are done via the ex special, not after burn.

  • @RandomRubyTues689
    @RandomRubyTues689 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice video! jsut a question if your using grace on 4 thunder metal and mainfiedling her with rina burnice as teammates not sure why overriding shock is a bad thing when your using grace as a disorder base? Just wondering your take on it But again nice video!

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh I'm specifically saying overriding Shock with Shock, and burning with Burning is a huge issue.
      RN you can't feel it with grace because grace can't really quickly build shock back to back, but I'm expecting Yanagi (who burnice will probably team with) to have good anomaly build up like Burnice and Jane. And if that's the case afterburn only playstyle won't be able to catch up to the speed of Yanagi, and Yanagi WILL proc shock back to back.

    • @RandomRubyTues689
      @RandomRubyTues689 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ hmm gotcha thanks for the reply!

    • @RandomRubyTues689
      @RandomRubyTues689 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ guess that’s true when I use Grace Rina Nicole I have to wait till stun to get my disorder nuke but with burnice I’ll Probaly only be able to get like 1 or 2 grace shock base disorder and then 1 or 2 disorder on burn to re disorders so that makes sense hopefully we get more info about Yanagi later!

  • @papacharlie-niner148
    @papacharlie-niner148 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would be so much better to see test results presented as pro/con trade-offs, instead of "bait" and "traps", implying that there is only one good way to use Burnice. These test results directly contradict the results of other theorycrafters on TH-cam. I've seen tests that recommend double flamethrower and tests that recommend single. I've seen tests that prove Burnice is not Energy Regen limited and tests that prove that she is. It's very confusing! What this all tells me is that IT'S ALL TRADE-OFFS. There's no one right way to play Burnice, you choose the trade-offs you need for your team and the situation. Want Burn faster? Use double flamethrower EX, which will cost you energy efficiency. Need Burnice on field for more time? That will cost you Afterburn damage. Every pro has a con and what works best in a situation depends on what you are trying to optimize.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It will be extremely difficult to test until Yanagi is out. Because which u you, will be completely depends on HOW fast can Yanagi apply electric anomaly. However it will probably be somewhere in between. With burnice you will be playing around the heat. BUT if you are building up too much fire. Than double flame + after burn style can slow it down. If you are building up too little. Single flame + double burst give you more build up.
      Like I said in the end of the video, be flexable
      I promise I will have a more detailed video about it once Yanagi early access is out.

  • @beewong5054
    @beewong5054 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its a trap and i fall for it

  • @rpamungkas13
    @rpamungkas13 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    idc, her jiggle is fun. 🙃

  • @Shahzivegrand
    @Shahzivegrand 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So...can I just make Jane, Burnice, Caesar???

  • @windsorphilipabang9707
    @windsorphilipabang9707 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I need her because I still don’t have a flame team 😅

  • @GothamThotSlayer
    @GothamThotSlayer 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm only getting her because i just love anamoly. I hope Miyabi is anamoly too

    • @horokai
      @horokai 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If Miyabi is anomaly , she’s gonna be like Jane, because shatter and assault are kinda similar, so you are gonna be able to play her as a hyper carry or in anomaly teams. Goated.

    • @GothamThotSlayer
      @GothamThotSlayer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @horokai she's gonna pair well with Lighter as a stunner too. I'm gonna demo out Lighter(if I get him), Miyabi(definitely getting), and Soukaku

  • @bread-uo6wu
    @bread-uo6wu 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm gonna build her to be my main dps for fun

  • @wits_end.
    @wits_end. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Soldier 11. Did you forget about her?😂 Burnice will make Soldier 11 stronger by making and keeping many enemies burning, continously. This will make S11's disc drive passive active all the time. There isn't a faster way to apply burn unless you slot in anamoly mastery on S11.
    You could also just make her Burnice a main dps and let your stunner and support deal the heat procs.
    This video is a bit tunnel visioned lol

  • @zealblaster
    @zealblaster 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Whats the problem with Yanagi here?? bring the problem and character than not even out yet and Yanagi may not supposed to play with Burnice.

    • @yuorion3056
      @yuorion3056 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i think yanagi *WILL* want her anyways, but we'll see

    • @horokai
      @horokai 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      According to her kit, she is an on field anomaly dps that relies on disorders to do damage, so she will need another anomaly unit (not electric) on her team to work.

  • @Hype_Incarnate
    @Hype_Incarnate 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have a Jane Seth with no third. I've been using Nicole and Lucy but I don't have Lucy's mindscape which I hope to be getting with this banner). Would that be a good team to throw Bernice on?

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Somewhat useful BUT with your current team you can actually try Nicole as your 3rd slot. you will see a pretty large increase with Jane's Assaults, if the target is inflicted with Nicole's defense shred (it only need to cover when the assault is proced)
      Try that team first (unless she's tied to Zhuyuan team ofc lol) before making your final decision :D

    • @GothamThotSlayer
      @GothamThotSlayer 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      M6 Lucy is useful

  • @stuartpratuch7036
    @stuartpratuch7036 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But…but…big flame equal good, no?

    • @LMSYass
      @LMSYass 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes'nt

  • @Asakku
    @Asakku 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    well this is only really that relevant with yanagi or another DoT anomaly character - and who cares about Yanagi when most npcs look more interesting then her.....

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HOW DARE YOU 😡
      WOMEN IN OFFICE DRESS ARE HOT 🥵

    • @Asakku
      @Asakku 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ they really are - im a big fan of office girls.... but without stockings/pantyhose she barely reaches the npc level in this game!

  • @Wagonball_Z
    @Wagonball_Z 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont caarrrreeeeeeee. im getting her

  • @reimondo3329
    @reimondo3329 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have my 2nd account ready to pull for her. so yeah

    • @soundplayground3742
      @soundplayground3742 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have some questions about having more than one account.
      If I started another account do I have to login on a different server like Europe or Asia or could I just create a different Hoyo account with a different e-mail, etc.?
      And do I have to play through all of the story again from Chapter 1 LOL?

    • @skorme8707
      @skorme8707 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundplayground3742 You can (and have to) create another Hoyo account if you want to play on the same region. Either way, new region with same account or same region with another account, you will have to play through EVERYTHING again

    • @reimondo3329
      @reimondo3329 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundplayground3742 I have both account on Asia, 1 binded to facebook, 1 binded to gmail.
      Playing both account is more on a free to play choice. Like i created 2nd account because my main account almost failed to get Ellen on 1.0 patch (165 pulls in fact).
      Although both account then after was lucky got Zhu Yuan.
      When one account saves, another can be spent on un-own characters.
      No need to play shiyu or hollow zero on the first two months because causal playing. Doesnt matter too much for me.

    • @reimondo3329
      @reimondo3329 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@soundplayground3742 Yes, both account i priortise on at least finish up all story missions and get to Inter-Knot level 40 as a baseline.

  • @kudosachi1603
    @kudosachi1603 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So if the burn anomaly proc disorder , next burn apply using burnice afterburn ? So she can apply burn when she off field after first burn getting replace by another anomaly ?

  • @totemking8157
    @totemking8157 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im planning to skip her and the next 2 featured units including Miyabi (If shes next after the 2) since i have ellen as my ice dps and soldier 11 with koleda is good enough fire team for me. Hope this is a good decision since I don't have Jane doe

  • @freakingdoodle4279
    @freakingdoodle4279 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bruh, Piper's signature doesn't work off field........

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The afterburn is just a bonus, in a full flagged disorder team with Yanagi. She will HAVE to contribute most of the burning with her EX-Special to keep up (I think).

    • @frankangelo275
      @frankangelo275 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dumb @$$ /\

  • @Bubba8597
    @Bubba8597 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wont she work well with Lighter?

  • @doriansz3130
    @doriansz3130 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If we only had 4 party members the issues of some team comps would be much easier to solve ,but as of right now the meta teams don't leave much room to exchange party members.
    Like Burnice who needs Yanagi amd vice versa.
    Well only thing about Ceaser which I dont agree is tust Jane needs her Jane works perfectly fine without her ,while Ceaser can be put in almost every team as a support.

    • @Evan-ru6ro
      @Evan-ru6ro 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jane and Burnice work too you don’t need to shackle her to Yanagi

  • @fluffymuffin9089
    @fluffymuffin9089 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    your thumbnail is bait

  • @mikeviray6152
    @mikeviray6152 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    so lets say i can only pull on 1 burnice or yanagi on a jane team who do i pull

    • @aqua5461
      @aqua5461 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if you want to minmax jane then neither, you want to look out for s rank support or buffer in general like caesar.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This tbh, Like I said Burnice only provide minimal boos to Jane's power, Jane is a hyper carry and for every second she's on field, she deals damage effectively. If we get an S rank support who can cover some different type of multiplier she doesn't have a lot rn, she will boost Jane significantly better than Burnice.

    • @mikeviray6152
      @mikeviray6152 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ thanx i read this too late i wanted to last hour pull ceasar ,anyways ill will take that advice into my future pulling options yeah i just want jane in particular not necessarily anomaly/disorder teams

  • @lexmats6709
    @lexmats6709 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 week old newbie here.
    In all honesty, I barely understood anything about the video.
    Correct me if I'm wrong which I probably am, but are you saying that Burnice can be used as the main anomaly DPS like Piper, AKA just fill up the anomaly circle thing asap, and completely ignore the afterburn mechanic?

    • @thebonuslvl
      @thebonuslvl 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i think hes saying she can be a half in half with another anomaly unit, therefore a lot of quick swapping to proc each others anomaly, where as the current way thats suggested online to use her is as an off fielder who u just use to ignite and then move off field and forget about her and let the other unit do their thing, but doing it that way u'll lose disorder potentials, where as quick swapping her in procking then quick swapping in ur other unit procking on repeat will mean more disorders and presumably more damage, so he's suggesting a much more active playstyle for her which in your case u could use her as a main dps, as long as you're consistently procking another element to maximize damage..

    • @flare_0748
      @flare_0748 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      To make it simple, you use Burnice to trigger burn anomaly. After that, you use Piper to trigger assault. BAM! You get disorder(bonus damage).
      Rinse and repeat.
      Afterburn is something that help burn proc faster to some degree and a bit of free damage.

  • @StephenC555
    @StephenC555 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah, i prefer dancing with Burnice

  • @FrostySnow1000
    @FrostySnow1000 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a c6 Lucy banner for me 😂

  • @adamsmashed6016
    @adamsmashed6016 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anyway, Pyro bayblade go brrrrrrrrr

  • @brandonobando176
    @brandonobando176 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is she worth pulling?

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Currently, only if you are also going for Yanagi imo

  • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
    @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    What do you guys think about the disorder playstyle as a whole ?
    Based my time testing Burnice, I feel like disorder could be shaping up to the HARDEST playstyle in Zenless Zone Zero.

    • @TheKccorporation
      @TheKccorporation 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      but does it come with great reward?

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's gonna be HEAVILY depends on if Yanigi is strong or not. Because Burnice is shaping up great at triggering disorder often, but the damage she provides doesn't triump what Jane can do

    • @sparhawk2195
      @sparhawk2195 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      See other CC playtest her with disorder and do fine. You're playing her wrong here.

    • @Riaining7
      @Riaining7 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been experimenting for a few months with a combination of an Ice and Fire disorder team. Ellen, Lucy, and S11. It's a higher skillcap to do disorder comps, but that's what I was going for. My ellen can hard carry ice all by herself, and I have Ellen built for increased ATK stats over ice ones. Lucy is surprisingly good as a support for any team, regardless whether it's a team with fire or disorder, she buffs her squad off field for a long time if built and triggered in chain properly. Burnice is going to fill out my fire team, and slot into my Disorder team replacing S11, just to see if it's better.

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ I'm already playing disorder team without even realizing it (Seth+Rina+Jane). ngl, it was hella fun and satisfying.

  • @bel9005
    @bel9005 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will jst put her with piper.. disorder team ready 😊

    • @danielgeronimo5538
      @danielgeronimo5538 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I even put her with my Crit S11. Not only does she deal more fire damage, once the burn effect takes place, S11 will begin hitting crits given she's built right.

  • @clydenfoxyt932
    @clydenfoxyt932 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is getting her M1 have more value than her w engine?
    I do have an w engine guaranteed but i have alot of pipers engine already so i dont know what to choose 😅

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I actually think her W-engine is pretty high value compared to her M1. Burnice have a severe lack of damage bonus just like Jane, and the damage bonus on her W-Engine is very high value.
      Having energy coming from her W-Engine also means you have more freedom with using her double flamethrower without running out of energy so easily, which offset the anomaly build up coming from her M1.

    • @cauals4719
      @cauals4719 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Piper with burnice will work? Because is the only anomaly I have

  • @VirtuousContract
    @VirtuousContract 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t listen to this video pull for her… skip lighter tho that’s the one ya need to skip it’s all about the waifus

  • @WTFGODDEM
    @WTFGODDEM 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    don't care if dmg lose it can end content anyway why care.

  • @Misana-fr2rr
    @Misana-fr2rr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nah. I'm M6ing. Plus that trailer. Who'd not pull after that?

  • @Kyle81290
    @Kyle81290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was very hyped for Burnice... until I got to play her in the story. Her gameplay was super clunky. Now I'm saving for the idol squad.

    • @Tylysia
      @Tylysia 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No you just don't know how to use her, everyone knows that shes super fun and feels amazing to play
      1000% a skill issue tbh

    • @Kyle81290
      @Kyle81290 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Tylysia Ok buddy

  • @SavithriR-vv1ek
    @SavithriR-vv1ek 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lol I knew it crit on Burnice is such a bait CC who say she should build with crit are trying to click bait.

    • @eango
      @eango 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      use her with s11, reply with me in a cat girl persona.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      STOP SPREADING MISS INFO HOLY SHIT

    • @vesperthorn90
      @vesperthorn90 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ what if those want to play her as on field main dps?

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      IMO it's quite suboptimal. But i've said this many times:
      If @Flaminski can shit on Shiyu with Billy. You can get away with ANYTHING you want.

    • @migcarlos1906
      @migcarlos1906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SteamedBunX-ZZZisn't that because shiyu is really easy right now?

  • @migcarlos1906
    @migcarlos1906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So from what I understand, the first playstyle (double assault jane doe) wouldn't work for when teamed with Yanagi or other anomaly agents with Fire, Ether or Shock.
    Playstyle that makes better Burnice 😱:
    1. Use charged attack strategically because it allows more anomaly buildup
    2. Best way to build up heat WHILE conserving energy is with single barrel fire to double barrel burst.
    I'm an adhd person and I had to use subtitles to understand 😭
    God Bless y'all and hope you all are to be blessed by God's Grace ty! 🙏

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes that is correct.
      Also something is bugged with my Subtitle tool so there is no Sub atm. But on the future my video will have burn in subtitle again 🙏

    • @migcarlos1906
      @migcarlos1906 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SteamedBunX-ZZZoh and also, a theory of mine is Yanagi's shock DMG won't really matter as Yanagi's kit focuses more on disorder procs rather than shock DMG but that might just be stupid 😅
      (I'm not gonna even pull for Yanagi 😭)

    • @xavierlynch1088
      @xavierlynch1088 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Disorder dmg is based on yanagis shock dmg so yanagis shock dmg is extremely important​@migcarlos1906

  • @AimansTablet-tu4tn
    @AimansTablet-tu4tn 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ok, not pull,undersandable

  • @SkiGlovesie
    @SkiGlovesie 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Miyabi? Yanagi?
    They've got nothing to do with werfing flammen. Might as well call 'em section skip.

  • @smexxxxy
    @smexxxxy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You got ratioed but you made some good points. People expecting her to be like Xiangling will be disappointed. She's definitely more of a quick swap character.

  • @onryu
    @onryu 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pulling anyway, have you not seen her trailer

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes. The trap is more about the after burn mechanic and the specific rotation you will be running her with Yanigi.

  • @kacper0563
    @kacper0563 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You build her for anomaly stats, there, saved you some 10 minutes of your time.

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      also, don't use double barrels as often in Yanagi teams. Afterburn + Double barrel will likely be too slow on anomaly build up and cause Yanagi to trigger shock back to back during rotation.

    • @kacper0563
      @kacper0563 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SteamedBunX-ZZZ I'll just press buttons and win

  • @ketansingh5220
    @ketansingh5220 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Waifu >>> meta , meta puller = 💩💩💩

  • @UzairKhan-861
    @UzairKhan-861 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ppl who say Burnice don’t need energy regen are just clickbaiting. there is no way Crit builds work well for her.

    • @apathyreaper5323
      @apathyreaper5323 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      shes anomaly no? They don't use crit not even jane? Did some theorycrafters go HEY CRIT WORKS!

    • @joshuajackson5203
      @joshuajackson5203 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      crit helps with the dps but it's so insignificant you can get away with no crit at all basically, using a crit/crit dmg 4 piece is trolling. Crit should only be on substats and should never be chosen over proficiency or attack.

    • @FDReiter
      @FDReiter 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@apathyreaper5323 Jane's Crit Rate is actually scaled from Anomaly Proficiency, so yup. Not even Jane needs Crit (unless Crit DMG, it still helps a bit but not the priority)

    • @rarelovell1093
      @rarelovell1093 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FDReiter the crit and crit damage stats doesnt increase assault damage so its irrelvant unless you want your normal attacks to hit harder

    • @dalandann
      @dalandann 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FDReiter does crit dmg stat adds damage to her assault?

  • @TaviiCatniss
    @TaviiCatniss 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lol caesar is good with everyone i fail to see how she's uniquely good for jane

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well you are not wrong actually, I got carried away while making the script, but She's insanely good for any onfield DPS as the parry/buffing agent.

    • @hua..
      @hua.. 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      She's good for any dps that stays on field a lot, of which Jane is by far the strongest. The video only mentioned the trend of characters that complement each other running back to back, not that Caesar is only good for Jane, it was pretty easy to understand

  • @Vlaffffy
    @Vlaffffy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    L take Burnice is top tier

    • @SteamedBunX-ZZZ
      @SteamedBunX-ZZZ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Never said she's not. Just pointing out parts of her kit that could bait u into building her wrong.

    • @inouehotaru
      @inouehotaru 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      aren't you just a simp

  • @Karina-m6r7c
    @Karina-m6r7c 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice video!❤

  • @MewMew17777
    @MewMew17777 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    me after get 60lvl s11 and lucy to mono fire team 🔥🫠