Beginner Vs Expert Audio Engineer: Can You Hear The Difference?

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  • @LeChapeauMusic
    @LeChapeauMusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    Engineer here. Third mix is insanely close to how I would do it. That being said, Simon's mix to me sounded much much better for that specific song!

    • @prodbymalek
      @prodbymalek 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree! Felt a lot more crisp which contrasted nicely with the song

  • @LuvAndreas
    @LuvAndreas 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +120

    ayyy this video came out sick! Thank you for using my song for the challenge, it was dope hearing the different mix decisions you guys made😄

    • @INGALIL
      @INGALIL 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you swedish dude? 🙌🏻

    • @thapelosibanyoni2205
      @thapelosibanyoni2205 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      which one do you prefer?

    • @LuvAndreas
      @LuvAndreas 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They were all super different with aspects I appreciated. The WAVs sounded way different than the compressed TH-cam versions. Simon's mix had fire width, and I liked the bassline in section 2, but the kick was clipping too hard and felt over-limited. Dawson had a clean vocal approach; the dubs were too loud, but the lead was fire, with a pro-level crispness on the top end. We dropped 'Time's Gone' with a different mix we worked hard on, but now a Grammy-winning mixer wants to redo it for us. Hopefully, his mix will be the one, and we'll redrop it soon

    • @LuvAndreas
      @LuvAndreas 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@INGALIL I'm not swedish, but most of my family grew up/live out there

    • @INGALIL
      @INGALIL 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LuvAndreas I see, but nice to see you rep Sweden anyway. Kinda figured you were british as soon as I heard the accent 😁👌🏻

  • @janardang8105
    @janardang8105 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    Mix 3 Low end controlled really well. Mix 2 is creative. Combination of both would have been sick.

    • @yoeldavidjr
      @yoeldavidjr 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Totally agree

  • @whoischenen
    @whoischenen 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +184

    He used to read the comments!

    • @hulseestreaming
      @hulseestreaming 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Bro is too big now 😢

    • @Ziro_kun
      @Ziro_kun 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Bro fell off

    • @aspiringjoker2883
      @aspiringjoker2883 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who says he doesn't?

    • @malikevans2615
      @malikevans2615 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@Ziro_kun probably doing shit bts but he fell off lowkey on yt

    • @aspiringjoker2883
      @aspiringjoker2883 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @malikevans2615 yeah, his upload schedule has always been an issue :(

  • @alijahpelletier
    @alijahpelletier 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    I honestly preferred Simons mix to the expert, but I do recognize that it was the most clean sounding. I think I would've mixed the song very similar to how Simon did.

    • @Dkejejej-h5d
      @Dkejejej-h5d 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Agree! I found his mix better. But I still think #3 won this one because his style seems to be much more well suited for this genre (much more high ends). I think Simon would have a better shot if the track was Hip-Hop & Rnb (Since, his mixing are bass heavy). Otherwise, both were good.

    • @MinusMedley
      @MinusMedley 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on what you're using to listen, but I recently discovered that boosting the subs like that tends to kills the groove and dynamics.
      If you really want to feel the subs then play it on a system designed to boost it, that would be most non-studio monitors anyway.

  • @gabrielpeters929
    @gabrielpeters929 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    I think a mix of Simon’s and the expert would be perfect in my opinion (Simon’s being too aggressive and the expert’s being too clean) other than the kicks I liked Simon’s mixing more overall

    • @dbest7
      @dbest7 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My thoughts exactly

  • @RoyalCoder51651
    @RoyalCoder51651 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    tbh i sorta liked simons the best. Maybe im just a slut for bass but I think it sounded the hardest. Especially on that ending part with the distorted lead

    • @Mistle-uz8rc
      @Mistle-uz8rc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Same, the distorted lead is just perfect

    • @antoinelegall6402
      @antoinelegall6402 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I think he does make the instrumental the most important because he has the habit of doing it like this.

    • @youcantbeatk7006
      @youcantbeatk7006 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think he had the best bass, but the last one had better everything else. I didn't mind Simon's kick, but I like oversaturated kicks a lot with things like hyperpop and my own music.

    • @antoinelegall6402
      @antoinelegall6402 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@youcantbeatk7006
      I see, I like your music.

  • @fet0logy
    @fet0logy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Pro-engineer did a good job, but it definetely lacked some of the low-end after Simon's mix lol

  • @vaskin717
    @vaskin717 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Haven’t watched it yet but I’m callin it’s gonna be a banger

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Defo a banger cos I'm in it 🔥😎

  • @lilwombat
    @lilwombat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Simon had the best one just ease up on the clipping. I used to blow out kicks too i like it but after watching people listen to stuff i made it's overwhelming and can translate really poorly to some speakers. Overall it was way more engaging although not as clean but that matters far less.

  • @sicfxmusic
    @sicfxmusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Expert and "mid" obviously brought their experience to the table but rookie did a great job. 👏👏

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @SheikRonMC
    @SheikRonMC 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you make a video on how to mix and master beats? I'm so confused because everyone has their own way, but I trust your methods.

  • @shadowemblem.
    @shadowemblem. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome video. Definitely need to get better at mixing myself. Excellent work everyone.

  • @Forest9770
    @Forest9770 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dude that was fun! ❤️

  • @hobbyloseryter0192
    @hobbyloseryter0192 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    The beginner used Soundgoodizer 🙈💀💀🙈😭

    • @Ziro_kun
      @Ziro_kun 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He ain't a beginner

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Allow me man 😂

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@Ziro_kun If i don't seem like a beginner than I'm doing a good job i guess 😅

    • @Hovss
      @Hovss 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheRealRoni16 use a saturator

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Hovss Appreciate you for helping me, thank you! I'll defo start using that instead

  • @IAmDek
    @IAmDek 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    i like how Simon mix sounds, but maybe clipping should be more deeper on my opinion

  • @prod.frizbie
    @prod.frizbie 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wake up Simon Servida POSTED! ❤‍🔥

    • @sicfxmusic
      @sicfxmusic 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You wake yourself up? No babe? 😁

  • @Akash_N_Suresh
    @Akash_N_Suresh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    4:00 bro is really an expert

  • @sajagsingh8400
    @sajagsingh8400 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The beginner was just happy to be there 😂

  • @averageenjoyer3934
    @averageenjoyer3934 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very interesting that you can actually tell each level is what it is. I have no like 0 ear training or even context about judging music and it was cool to see the differences. The reactions to the kick/bass(?) was jokes

  • @glennfordsolinap8606
    @glennfordsolinap8606 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    third mix is like music from the 2000-2010's....really clean!

  • @junglemankey
    @junglemankey 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mixing is also an art form on its own

  • @luckygentyt
    @luckygentyt 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You release this at the perfect time! I'm going to be releasing one of my best songs to date and with the tips you provided It's going to make my master much better.

  • @tzxm16351
    @tzxm16351 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Banger video

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @tzxm16351 Any video that has me is a banger video 😏

  • @BlueberryWolf
    @BlueberryWolf 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Simon's mix was the best because he controlled dynamics a lot better. the 3rd engineer spent the most time on levelling and mixing but it ended up sounding a little more dull and soft, meanwhile simon's mix sounded wide and full and the drums hit (because of the clipping, which I actually quite liked.)

    • @XXXPUBLICENEMY
      @XXXPUBLICENEMY 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How to clip without clipping

  • @D-One
    @D-One 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    30min is crazy, id waste a third just listening to the song 3 times or so to get the vibe, do it again with more time and a sloppy fully unmixed song, maybe add some traps like EQing some tracks to have really resonant freqs and such... that would be fun af to watch.

  • @BelieverStarcraft
    @BelieverStarcraft 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mix 3 was sooo clean but i loved the creativity of mix 2. You add some of the parts/creativity to mix 3 it will be fire

  • @AjayVerma-og6ip
    @AjayVerma-og6ip 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please make beats session with mix and master like old days .

  • @gilangsuryawav
    @gilangsuryawav 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    youve come at the right time bro

  • @NovaMuller
    @NovaMuller 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simon got the best version for me coz it just hits more

  • @Nightmare-yx5dp
    @Nightmare-yx5dp 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the pro is what i strive to become in mixing especially that low end cus man id be like simon most of the time making that low end knock

  • @zxncofficial
    @zxncofficial 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ngl i liked simon's the best

  • @dmmakes-beats
    @dmmakes-beats 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    more video like this please i love it

  • @AUGVST-m8w
    @AUGVST-m8w 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mixing on monitors is devious

  • @justagge2272
    @justagge2272 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3rd mix was def the cleanest nd most professional, but simons was more unique and interesting

  • @noogiebeats
    @noogiebeats 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would like to try my hands on this too

  • @_kfolks_
    @_kfolks_ 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I wish he would've given the engineers an hour to mix as opposed to 30 minutes. There was still a massive difference between the 3, but if they would've had an hour then it would've shown the difference in skill between the 3 even more immensely.

  • @coastie2025
    @coastie2025 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The perfect video to eat during dinner

  • @digdigdigdigdig1749
    @digdigdigdigdig1749 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if you do this again, you should allow a bit more time. In my opinion, the difference between the 3 tiers would be a lot more noticeable. A seasoned engineer can get a 70% the way there very quickly, but its that last 30% that really shows the value of running a mix through someone with experience. That 30% just comes with time.

  • @MarkVank
    @MarkVank 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    30 minutes is insaaaaane for a mix tho

  • @Dkejejej-h5d
    @Dkejejej-h5d 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Both of them were really good! I think Simon would have been better if the track was Hip-Hop or Rnb. But for the sample track given, #3 had won this.

  • @silver_prod
    @silver_prod 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i can definitely hear the difference (I’m on my phone)

  • @RiccoSpxc3
    @RiccoSpxc3 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    W video learned alot

  • @uhctyannick
    @uhctyannick 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    fiiire! luvandreas underrated af

  • @Kxngfroz_e
    @Kxngfroz_e 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I like yours the best.. the only problem I had with the beginner is that is 🎚️ level is too low.. but it's all good mixes

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yoo I'm the beginner, but i don't understand, what is low? I'd love to get some advice!

    • @Kxngfroz_e
      @Kxngfroz_e 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheRealRoni16 I didn't say your mix is not good. It's just not as loud as the other and it's nothing to be shamed about because Simon at times say that being louder doesn't always means better..

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Kxngfroz_e nah don't worry i didnt think u said i was bad, i just wanted to understand ur advice so i can learn. Thank u for telling me i appreciate it, will bear the volume in mind!

    • @Cxcooooo
      @Cxcooooo 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@TheRealRoni16I'm making music on my phone for 3-4 years now
      My advice is
      Make the song louder and make every sound u made is hearable
      Like panning or wide , and make it crisp . So u can get the listeners attention to every single part

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Cxcooooo Ok I'll defo do that, I've got youlean loudness meter recently, so I'm sure that will help

  • @icdeceivingdeception600
    @icdeceivingdeception600 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you could make a video more on how to mix and master that would be awesome

  • @katisantegeia3697
    @katisantegeia3697 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    fire

  • @MrJayBeatstv
    @MrJayBeatstv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dang I shoulda been on this one

  • @0reason
    @0reason 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool vid

  • @itstaylermusic
    @itstaylermusic 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    it would have been cool to se the artist blindly rank them form noob to expert cause it seems like he is just agreeing with their credibility

  • @missbob12345
    @missbob12345 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simon was more creative but that is not what qualifies a mastering engineer. I have to agree with the expert, the kick and low end were overwhelming the vocals and melodic elements. Mixing wise Simons creativity was best and the experts knowledge of the mastering and leveling would likely make for the cleanest and most interesting finished product.

  • @jarautajay
    @jarautajay 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Akin to what the expert mixing engineer said, I add to that "A good master can't fix a bad mix, A good mix can't fix a bad production."
    So if the producer/singer-songwriter gives you crap, you as a mixing engineer can only do your best to sound it your way, but that doesn't change the fact that the track is still crap.
    Bottom line: Production is your base, your foundation in making good music. So, sing the best verse, play your best lick, try to be on time, retake a thousand times, hit the drums with groove and feel, derail and don't limit yourself with what's with the norm. Great music is often made by breaking the rules.
    FLOW, DON'T FORCE.

  • @dxzzydxm5518
    @dxzzydxm5518 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i’m a simple man. i see a simon video, i click

  • @jvlrybeats
    @jvlrybeats 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🔥

  • @SvgeRose
    @SvgeRose 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I see you got a new camera 👀

  • @its_henlxy333
    @its_henlxy333 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish you showed us how they mixed it so we could reciprocate it and learn

  • @blueberry_5240
    @blueberry_5240 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Simon, would you be able to make some cookup- style videos again? (similar to the style of the RTP series of yours) I’d much rather enjoy seeing your beatmaking process rather than these challange-videos or vs.-videos. Greetings.

  • @GodSpeed1105
    @GodSpeed1105 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No sauce on Dawsons mix 😂 Spillin no Beans.

  • @Nayah9
    @Nayah9 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please save the subtitles for TH-cam shorts and Instagram. It's distracting. Love your content though! 🙂

  • @Macskhananda
    @Macskhananda 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    my song the last one i mixwd sound like the last and third

  • @brapywpopo3002
    @brapywpopo3002 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can u make a tutorial on basic leveling on mixing?

  • @khrisher
    @khrisher 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Creatively Simons was good. But Dawson def mixed it much better to fit its song genre. Vocals were inside the pocket and every word was clearly understood. Maybe if Simons instrumental mix coincided with Dawsons Vocal mix, it would be a good song to blast in your car while cruising with the windows down.

  • @roulam3001
    @roulam3001 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simon is mogging us in the thumbnail

  • @Kazeno
    @Kazeno 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    the beginner guy is very cutie patootie😩😩😩😩😩😩

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree 😏

  • @creative._culture_
    @creative._culture_ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Like if u think Simon ain't posting enough

  • @DeficioOfficial
    @DeficioOfficial 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would be far more interesting if you all got 2-3 hours to mix, this was more of a speed-mixing challenge

  • @DumpsterFireMusicOclock
    @DumpsterFireMusicOclock 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what… i use the pink and white theme 😢

  • @tasenova2717
    @tasenova2717 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    one of the things that bugs me is, the pro is using pro tools, and that would be fine, if more people were aware of Fls quantization in fl faders

  • @KarongoEverton
    @KarongoEverton 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey simon love the content Could i ask you which is the most best program to use for stem separation ... be it paid or free

  • @ozyardiary
    @ozyardiary 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Curious, should the snare really be slightly louder than the Kick?

  • @johnsonj1248
    @johnsonj1248 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it would be very generous give to us the stems of this song😄😍

  • @RobinsStudy
    @RobinsStudy 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hopefully we can get a tutorial for sound selection because no matter wat sound i choose it still doesn't sound right or am i the only one facing that problem? before mixing

  • @newmanh
    @newmanh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simon went too hard to this...the mix was such good but I really don't prefer clipping kicks...i therefore think the Professional really did a great job in making this mix super clean and ready to listen. i think with some little more time, his mix would be ready for spotify

  • @melonenthusiast101
    @melonenthusiast101 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A super clean mix isn't always the most interesting to listen to imo simons was better

  • @cnino8576
    @cnino8576 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    how do you listen to the song at the same time from a distance?

  • @johnsharp3459
    @johnsharp3459 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ok, is in between.

  • @luaybeats
    @luaybeats 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Simon. Please. I try and try and try but i can never make samples. Any ideas on good practice techniques. I end up fetting up set and never save it

  • @story_teller_beats
    @story_teller_beats 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of tracks already gave me a headache lol

  • @alexscales6760
    @alexscales6760 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do it again but this time don't tell the original artist who's mix is who's and make them guess

  • @xtianrogelio20
    @xtianrogelio20 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can you even work with pop punk or metal genres to say that you are an expert?

  • @Narumasano
    @Narumasano 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talking about audio engineering and mixing, does anybody agree with me that the masterisation tool in Logic Pro X is crap??

  • @teshxnofficial907
    @teshxnofficial907 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me Simon’s mix fits the song even though the 3 mix is better. Just the kick a bit to hard😭

  • @Tallsayd003
    @Tallsayd003 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can anyonr tell me

  • @MetroKidd
    @MetroKidd 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what i'm I doing here??💀💀
    I've exams tomorrow

  • @kayukthebruh5601
    @kayukthebruh5601 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    can they stop talking while the music is playing

  • @npcdisease
    @npcdisease 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uhh yes, beginner move
    Mixing vocals before the instrumental
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Got damn it

    • @TheRealRoni16
      @TheRealRoni16 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Should i not do that? 😅

  • @twitchbook-1
    @twitchbook-1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thats sad!

  • @al_Jae_music
    @al_Jae_music 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Sir, I am from Philippines, asking if i can clean a Song generated by AI? Hope you can help me, thank you and more views and subscription on you channel ❤️🙏

  • @brytonbeats5077
    @brytonbeats5077 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nooo you are not an intermideate🤧,you are way too faaar

  • @bbs-vj7rp
    @bbs-vj7rp 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How act like a real Man ahh thumbnail

  • @StalinkTz
    @StalinkTz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    simon's sounded the best to me honestly, expert's one sounds kinda boring not gonna lie

  • @junkyza
    @junkyza 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this man really cheated in front of us? crazy

  • @multimusicsam
    @multimusicsam 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    first

  • @Migolivares
    @Migolivares 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just me or does it seems like Simon is losing / has lost passion for making videos? They've began feeling rushed with a lot of cookie cutter'esque vibe..
    A lot of the editing both visually and sound wise feel rushed and there's sort of this "Let's get this video idea over with" feeling

  • @sonwabilesiheya6154
    @sonwabilesiheya6154 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can do better