5 Things Your Overland Toyota Does NOT Need!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Building an Overland Toyota? Then these are a five products you SHOULD NOT buy! Some people may disagree, but these five products just aren't worth it when there are so many other things to spend money on for your Tacoma, 4Runner or Tundra build. Not all products are created equal, so we want to help you save your money so you can spend it on things that actually matter. You, and your Toyota build will thank you!
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - LCA Skids
2:38 - Battery Cage
4:44 - Drop Bracket Lift
6:21 - Spacer Lift
7:19 - Cold Air Intake
9:02 - Conclusion - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I’ve been in automotive business for 36 years. Listen to this man people, he knows what he is talking about! Excellent video!! Now please do one on the top five mods to do.
A top mod would be oversized vehicle amber clearance lights in the front grill.
Hey guys, sorry that the music is too loud! I will make sure to pay attention to that on the next one! I didn't notice until too late. Really appreciate the feedback!
It is a good video and the music isn’t that loud it’s just not good music 😮
Yeah it's my only problem with your vids. Otherwise I love y'all's content and honesty. 🤘
It’s really not loud or annoying lol. I just bought my first truck, 2002 Sequoia and I am excited to look at any and all content I can find. I came from the import/muscle car modding and racing community. They should go look at some of those videos and they would stop complaining about the music on this one lol 😂
So refreshing to see somebody pushing back on some of these mods. Seems like things have gotten out of hand where it’s all mods all the time and the more you have the better. We need voices to push back and say when we’re overthinking things or creating more problems than we’re solving.
I'm glad I could help! The scene definitely blew up, and with that came a lot of products from people who don't actually use the gear they sell unfortunately.
I don't know anyone who actually uses their tacoma for trails have any of these mods except for dual battery in the stock location.
Everyone I know (or care to know) has mostly the same mods.
ARB Twins, Snorkel w/ a Dust Filter, Dust Lights, Ditch Lights, Aux lights mounted below the hood, Kings or ADS coilovers, Custom Deaver Packs, 33-35" tires, some solar panel w/ MPPT Controller and some DC-DC charger for the aux battery.
My thoughts on the LCA Skids is that if you have money for those, you might as well go up a level and get Total Chaos LCAs, spindle gussets, and Cam Tab Gussets.
Skip all the BS mods unless you're showing up at well paved surfaces only.
Can’t agree more. I almost fell into the mod prom trap as a newbie, until I saw that Kia drive Hells Revenge and know many people travel Southern Africa with a Hilux : a 4x2 with tear diff lock and decent tyres and a compressor will get good drivers far (I don’t consider myself one yet, I cheat with electronics aid 😊)
Everything from mods to the general overlanding world goodies seem so over designed, over engineered with little value in use for the money spent.
Eggs...act...lee
Lol a lot of these trucks dont even see any offroad/overland use. They just put it on there to show off, ride around like they do shit. Just a status symbol to impress people they dont even like.
That was impressive for a shop to just lay it out like that. Much respect
A good, honest mechanic never has a shortage of customers for exactly that reason.
Save money for gas! That is probably the best advice I've heard from any truck mod video, ever. Practical, and Tacomas are already so capable, best to use them. Great video!
Not controversial at all, everything you said makes perfect sense. Please keep cranking out these informative videos.
I overland full-time in a gen 4 4Runner, here's the list of mods (that I purchased) on my rig;
Falken WIldpeak A/T tires
That's it.
Best tire hands down…
Hope honesty stays for a long time. It’s really awesome to have a shop that is honest about what they do. Great stuff!!!
Just got me some premium, reverse osmosis, pH balanced, "smart," blinker fluid! Plus, when paired with my 3M, carbon fiber printed, super light weight, racing stripes, they add massive horsepower gains that even the TRD supercharger cannot handle!
My biggest mod regret on my 4Runner was a rear ladder. Added weight and stress to the hatch. Some people had rusting issues from paint chips from mounting contact points. If I need anything on my roof rack, stepping up the rear tires are far more accessible than using the ladder in the back. Unless you got a roof tent then I see good reason. Great video and explanation BTW, I can agree to your top 5. Now make a top 5 best or must do mods.
That’s my truck on the left. Thanks for removing spacers and blocks and doing it right
Blocks are ok if they're not huge. You can't say blocks are just wrong all the time. I needed another inch in the back of my truck and 1 inch blocks aren't raising your springs enough to create axle wrap.
And yes I already have +3 shackles as well so don't even try that one lol
I think some people don't understand that all these youtubers are sponsored and get a lot of gear for free. I despise most overlanding and gear channels because of all the sponsorships. They brag about all their expensive stuff that the average person will never be able to afford and make people believe they need this stuff in order to have a good time, which is just untrue.
I was overlanding using my lexus rx. It's funny to see how many people spend soo much money in their rigs to go to places that I can can go with my stock lexus RX.
EXACTLY!!!! FINALLY!!
someone finally gets it! "Overlanding" is just super expensive camping and expensive "gear" gotta get the gear it's all about the gear, to show off looking new and never used. its a lifestyle thing.
This video is spot on. Thanks for not saying cat back exhaust mods are a waste, because the sound legit makes me happy. Totally agree that saving the money for gas and trip is a better call than these mods.
Thanks! People like to spend money, period, without thinking too much about the function.
Nailed it on drop bracket kit, anything that changes OEM geometry will end up bad for the components. The only true CAI is a snorkel and to get full benefit, it needs a properly sealed airbox.
So cool to see an honest opinion coming from a shop about this topic. Keep up the great work!
I 100% agree with ALL of your selections and reasoning behind NOT putting them on you rvehicle. Waste of Money that could have gone towards better components you need and will use.
came across your video,and the cold intake one, caught my eye, becasue at one point i was thinking seriously, but decided to back out on the whole idea. appreciate the information.
Finally someone that is honest and cuts the mustard!!! Truly explained in a real Canadian🇨🇦 way 👍🏻I really enjoy your video and your honesty. You just got a new subscriber and client… when I will be in BC. Greetings from Yellowknife.
I agree with your perspective on all the parts you mentioned. I have been on the fence about lower control arm skids. And realized it wasn't necessary. I do see the use of .5 inch spacers for leveling out the vehicle. But the others are just not necessary.
I certainly appreciate your candor. Nice to see call BS on BS. Thanks much!
Thanks for making this. LCA skidplates have been on my list of things to eventually get, but after hearing your experience with the skids clogging them up with mud and crap, I'll forever save that money! Or just spend it somewhere else on gear hahaha
Thank you so much for all the explanations. I was literally on the verge of buying lower control arm skids before you mentioned the loss in articulation and possibility of rust. Stuff just doesn't cross your mind until someone mentions it who is deep in the industry. New sub here, thanks again!
Glad I could help!
My Ricochet off-road skid kit came with them and I took them off after a year.
Thanks for your advice. I am fairly new to Overlanding so trying to figure out my build. Helps me think things through.
Please lower ur background music it is annoying.
It’s not even that loud.
@@TANKYPOO i agree i think he might of had one of the 5 mods😅 in his defense i think it depends on the device your on too? Maybe if your using headphones or not? But im glad i was aware of these mods as a guy coming from the car scene i can at least say im seasoned for truck camper life 🤣 and thanks again content creator for once again helping me decide on these mods and saving money for better mods like maint. Etc better more useful parts
Shush
I don’t think the music is too loud. I think it’s just bad “music”.
I don't watch anything that has background music.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. You've expressed what I personally won't do to my Tacoma and have told friends to not to as well for nearly the same reasons you stated. Save the money on better stuff.
So refreshing to here some common sense, from someone experienced. Thank You
I appreciate your video. I have a 21 Taco Sport that sees 99.9% of its time on city streets and highways and is reliable. I may buy a second set of rims and some slightly more aggressive all terrains if I get the bug for some light off-reading, but running it as it is makes my life more stress free.
Great info! Love your videos.
How about a top 5 must have upgrades for your Toyota? If you haven't already.
I'm inspired by the old dudes from Nevada I meet on Steel pass in Death Valley driving Jeeps caked in dirt with just the bare minimum amount of gear. On the Eastern Sierra side on every trip I always see Tacoma's packed down with a insane amount of gear all for show, trucks lightly dusty. Instagram models.
Great advice for someone starting into Overlanding!
Wow! Great video! Great comments from the audience! Creator actually participates in discussions! I look forward to seeing more so I subscribed.
Thank you for the guidance.
Thanks for your advice. I’m in planning stages to either modify my stock Tacoma TRD off road or buying a new Tundra TRD off road to use in my upcoming retirement and off road traveling across North America.
the only one I disagreed with was the cold air intake, but then you covered my only argument. once I put bigger tires on the Tacoma, it sucks up crud with the stock intake, and it's just less of a headache to relocate it or snorkel it.
great video, a must watch in my opinion
This was a great video. And your advice applies to any brand really. Great job. I hope to see more videos like this
Cheers from Ontario
I'm a Jeep guy, but this is still a pretty cool video. I'm always saying to my wife when watching the TH-cam folks, "why do they need that!? Probably cuz they were given it... but would they add it or buy it if they were using their own money!?" Pretty cool to see a shop do this kind of thing, instead of upsell some stuff we don't need. Nicely done (I've bought a couple things from you guys) .. ill have yo pass this along to my Toyota guys. ... and the background music seems fine, not irritating at all, as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks so much for the feedback and support! Our main goal is always to help people first!
I have a RWD Silverado and this is helpful, at least philosophically. With my previous years wheeling and never having broken a shock mount, or heard of a broken one, i guess I don't need the shock mount skids either... 😂😂
I always recommend a full strut with upper control arms bds lift to anyone who wants to overland. They’re more expensive but worth it.
I keep my overland vehicle a bare bones minimalist build. I always have money for cocaine and hookers when I go out on an adventure.
If you walk into a shop asking what mod you should get then that’s a good clue you don’t need it. Get out there and figure out what you need based on what you’re doing. I think people are chasing the look more than anything nowadays just like the mall crawlers.
All 5 tips were spot on. Thank you for doing this!
Great info, I do not yet own a truck but someday I will. This is great information to keep in mind. Thank you!
Great info....thanks! Whew, I haven't done any of that stuff. Happy Holidays
Nice vid. I had always wondered about the control arm plates. As a noob I did the spacer lift. It gave me a little clearance but eventually did the whole lift so basically wasted $700 on the spacer. Should have done it right the first time!
This video is gold. Everyone with a Tacoma should watch this.
Love this. Good advice for practical reasons.
Good stuff, agree with all of them. I'm thinking of doing a video on more Overland specific stuff that get taxed hard. Great video.
While you have some valid points about drop-bracket lifts, CV angles is not one of them IMO. Your CV angles are going to be worse with a standard coil-over/spacer lift up front. A drop bracket lets you also drop the front diff...which keeps the CV angles closer to stock. That is why you have to cut out the crossmember. If you buy a cheap kit then yes, you will need spindle and coil-over extensions and those are definitely for street use only. But a good drop bracket kit will include new, beefier spindles and longer coil-overs. I took it a step further and welded my drop bracket into place with reinforcements. So as you pointed out, I cannot go back to stock even if I wanted to. But my CV angles are way better with 5.5 inches of lift and a drop bracket than I ever had with a standard 3 inch coil-over lift, and I have a fulltime 4WD vehicle (200 Series LC) so those angles are even more important.
But your front driveshaft angle....
On IFS? I cannot fathom that being a concern.
Finally someone said it lol Great Video.. I did however switch my switch my stock air filter on my Tacoma to a K&N (not cold air intake) and immediately noticed a way better throttle response.
Can confirm on the Spacer Lift. Bought a ‘17 TRD Sport with wheels, 285 tires, and 2.5” lift! Then realized it was a block lift 😖 Now I’m in the process of fixing what the previous owner did to make my truck more capable off-road. Still doesn’t keep me off the trails!
I agree with this. I was wanting to do some of these mods. Cold air intake especially but I learned my Toyota is cold air intake from the factory, im gonna leave it alone. As for lift spacers, I am guilty. I just wanted a clean leveling kit and it looks good and I went into it expecting to wear the shocks out prematurely. So far they holding up good. Gives me a good reason to upgrade shocks when they do go.😉
I'm always taking my Toyota places it shouldn't be and it performance is always satisfying.
Great vid but when you said overlanding is over expensive I thought about my $2500 Silverado with a dad cap hitting the same trials. Overlanding doesn't have to be expensive it just has to fun
I did a 3 day overlanding trip last year in a stock tacoma on 32's. Literally no issues. I had some basic recovery gear which i did not need to use.
I'd imgine most drivers "overland" on logging roads and stuff like that. People over spend and over build their trucks because they think it's cool
@@thesmalllebowski6528I think it's cool I'm my opinion. If you can afford it then sure but it's definitely not necessary for the vast majority of people. A stock Tacoma or 4Runner is beyond capable
Great video. Thanks for the dose of reality on these five.
I completely agree with the opinion concerning cold air intake "upgrade" With that said I do like the washable and reusable upgraded intake filters. I am getting my value over time with that one. Maybe there is no difference in performance though.
I replaced my drab stock intake w/ a Spectre "cold air" system. Two things I know for sure. 1) Mine has the polished aluminum flow tube so it looks very cool and 2) It makes the engine growl when under a load. That's it as far as I can tell. So, if you've got $270 to spend on looks and sound, go for it.
Induction sound is worth it for me.
I totally agree with all these recommendations...and skipped them for these reasons.
Big tires is the best mod for off roading....and actually learning how to drive.
Best advice I ever got was to live "your" best overland life lol. Enjoy the hobby on your budget. Good video!
It is refreshing to see a video advising us to NOT spend more! Spend wisely, grasshopper.
Music is fine (on my phone)... Thank you for having and sharing experience and thoughts we need more of this. Some folks won't agree and that's ok.
You don't need 90% of the stuff out there, but it's fun to buy gear and if it makes your rig look better to you, then it's money we'll spent
Very well presented and extremely informative.. thanks for sharing
I'm planning on purchasing a proper overlanding rig and really appreciate a video like this! Not to mention I'm a female who doesn't know much about this stuff. I'd love to see a video on your recommendations for a lift, and other items mentioned in this video, if there are mods worth doing.
This was awesome.
When you're 25k deep in overland mods for your FJ Cruiser and find out your money wasn't wasted on these products, you can sleep a little bit easier at night!
HE,He, bet you my old FJ60 Std will get me as far as your Cruiser without the 25K mods. Except for a Winch, why not spend the 25K if it makes you happy👍
@@WillyK51Hmmm who asked?
Very informative video. Thank you!
Thank you. I appreciate your information.
All truths. No argument from me. Ready for part 2. Rock on!
Excellent tips! It makes a lot of sense.
Thanks for the honesty, 😊
With you on all of these. With all the off roading we have in Australia, we have none of these,. Well we do have coil spacers lifts, not shocks spacer lifts. and extra battery box for dual battery, ive driven a standard 4x4 in places most people with a pimped up "Overlander" would balk at
Thanks for your advice!!
Great advice! Thank you.
Outstanding!!! One of the best vids ever!
Another great, helpful video!
Great vid mate, totally agree with ur list & reasonings, . There is a TH-camr ‘Whistlin Deisel’, who basically wrecks stuff, cars, trucks, busses, helicopters, etc, he did a test on a stock Toyota Hilux 2010 model & could not kill it without dropping it from 500 feet & then 10,000feet via helicopter, anyhow, in the last test he put it up against some monster trucks and rock climbers, and it still outshined most of them, completing one severe test climb rocky crevice in reverse several times after doing it in forward was too easy.
I agree on all fronts. Great video
Thanks for honesty
*All good stuff.. love to hear your opinion on the Pedal Commander!*
I keep mine stock and drive the hellout of them 2,500 miles in 4+4 every year thanks for the update
Great video, solid tips on what not to invest in.
LCA skids, I am on the fence about... it might depend on where and how you wheel...
On my old ranger, they had been beat to hell. A lot of rocks over the years did a fair bit of reshaping to the leading edge. My tacoma on the other hand shows some scratches, but not so much damage. I was also more abusive to my old ranger... I will however grant you that they have FAR lower priority. Being priced similarly, I would rather get some weld on gussets for the LCA mounts than the skids, but round here in east tennessee, rocks or other hidden obstacles in mud holes are a thing. That said, you do bring up an important and valid point in that one needs to be careful when selecting a skid as they may be using a drain hole as a mounting point.
As for the cold air intake... Mixed feelings there. I would rather a snorkel than an open box intake shoved into the corner of my engine compartment. A cold air intake is pointless unless it is drawing directly from outside air. With a 4by you have to take water and dust into consideration when choosing an intake system. Cold air system such as the K&N or AIRAID type that is just a reusable filter on the end of a smooth tube has only one advantage. It does not have a flextube section to cause turbulence. Otherwise it does not provide much gain over stock. 5-10% HP gain will still only equate to 1-2 HP increase... you are not going to notice... that extra power you feel is 90% placebo. A snorkle on the other hand... well it will forever brand your truck, BUT it gets intake above the bow wave, and more importantly, it allows you to get your intake into a lower density of dust on the trails. Realistically on water crossings. Your factory intake is high enough that your interior is going to flood, and you MIGHT drown your computer before you flood your intake. It is far more important that you run breather lines for your differentials, and other drive train equipment. A good snorkel will, however, reduce the amount of dust your intake sucks in, especially if it has a good prefilter... speaking of pre filters. THAT is one thing the cold air intake DOES have an advantage over the stock intake for. lots of prefilter socks for round filters, but not much for a flat panel filter. I had a round filter on a previous vehicle that had a prefilter sock that I would spray with WD40. it got caked with dust pretty fast, but I just had to pull it off and shake it clean from time to time.
Nice tips, thanks Trail Boss!
Great honest video. Well done
Very good video. Value the experience and expertise.
I actually agree with the video. The only thing I did do on my 4Runner is a 1” and a 1/2 spacer in the front suspension because the stock 4Runner looks so bad with the squatted front end. Specially when you have bigger tires.
Finally i have found someone who has the same opinion as me about lower arm skidplates…. Thank you.
Totally agree with this list....there are several more!
Seems like good, sound advice. People will line up for a good, honest mechanic.
Hi Braeden! I agree with your first four points but not with #5 - Cold Air Intake. I have a 2012 FJ Cruiser Trail Teams Special Edition that I installed last November and noticed a real difference in power and torque. The specs on the Intake state I receive an additional 9 horsepower and 8 pounds of torque but I think those numbers are much higher and I’ll need the additional torque when I’m overlanding. Helpful video nonetheless!
Very much agree with all he said. Modern day rigs are very capable as stock. And unless you are going hard core off road mostly just puutting on a good set of all terrains will be all the upgrade you need. I have done a few upgrades to my lc prado 150, but they are all usability and asthetics upgrades just make my life easier and to give my rig a different look to others. But they are all subtle upgrades. My rig is new so I would certainly not do any performance upgrades as it would almost certainly void my warranty. Only performance upgrade I plan on doing is putting some all terrains on once these factory tyres have warn down, but even then they will not be overly aggressive, just enough to improve borh the look and off road performance, not that it is lacking on ability as it is with the current tyres anyway.
Thank you for the honesty. It all in your heads. Pretty sure many would disagree with you no matter what. Oh well... it your $$$ spend it how you want it. :)
New to the game great info subscribed !!
I’ve learned from my cousin that if you wanna save money listen to actual mechanics not content creators. Mechanics tend to know the cheapest way to keep you moving the way you want which is what this guy did 👍🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Great clip, great info 👍🏽
Succinct and useful! Thank you.
I totally agree with you sir!
nice, agree with all, maybe talk about the things a weekend camper need compared to all-out full-time camping. what a person that makes short weekend trips really needs
It would be a really short video! All you need is a place to go, a place to sleep, and a way to get there! All the rest is optional :) But maybe I can come up with something!
@@OverlandOutfitters i just see to many builds with things that a guy just doing some mt. lake fishing, or bike riding, for a week or two that doesn't put himself in to much danger. because he's old. lol. 62. and usually alone, doesn't need. tarps over tents, that kind of thing. like the vids. 2002 Tacoma extra cab 4x4
Excited for you guys to fix my dual batteries that have pounded through the Fender! 😂
dang it I was hoping any of the mods I was looking into wasn't going to be on your list but I need to seriously reconsider spacer lifts now. Thanks for the informative video, your advice is too genuine to pass over.
Ya don't do that. You will regret it
If your doing a spacer just for leveling you should be fine honestly, but if your trying to do more then that look to getting different suspension components at that point.
@@IWantYourNachos thank you!
You probably don't even need a lift
@@robbarber7253 ended up not doing it. Saving up for a 4Runner Trailhunter at this point
WoW such comman since advise ! So we'll explained. I'm not a gear head don't understand what some these terms or parts are. Great to learn this wY