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- I shoot my stock Barreled action Bergara B14R at 100 yards lot testing Eley Semi Auto Benchrest. 4 different lots.
Links to Equipment Used in this video and equipment I use on a daily basis, links will help support the Channel.
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Target Stickers
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Bore Cleaner
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Enjoy your videos I have a b14r 455. 457 and kidd 10 22 keep up the good work
Thanks Glen, I’ve got some good ones coming up so hopefully your subscribed!
Finally...someone else besides myself tuning up on the 100 yard bench! ***Nice start you have going there.*** It is said that when you move from the 50 yd. bench to the 100 that your groups will enlarge about 3 times. 100 yard groups require so much more from the rifle & ammunition & shooter but I think it will make you a much better shooter at the 50.
I have a thread going over at [Cast Boolits ] and it's called ( TUNING a .22lr BR at 100 yards... ) you are welcome to come over and post anything you like in that thread so long as it's about shooting at 100 yards. Lots of very smart folks there giving hard earned 'tips & tricks' with intentions of helping everyone shoot better.
Hope to see you there...charlie...😎👍32...over there I am known as 'OS OK'
I’ll check it out.
@@RimfireSS Great, it'll be nice to be able to communicate with you with more freedom than these Y-Tube comments allow! Looking forward to it!
I subscribed because of your presentation, and well enunciated video. Also, down range camera work. Great professional video. I could almost predict your impact watching the wind flag at the same time.
Welcome aboard. I’m still pretty new to this. Only been at it for about 3.5 months. I’ll get better.
I could feel the cold, just watching this!
I must be 'cold blooded' because I can't shoot hardly at all in freezing weather, my fingers get cold so darn quickly. However watching you shoot is very interesting and thoroughly enjoyable,
as your video editing techniques, don't have us waiting for the magazine loading or bolt operating times ( that stuff is a given after all )
Good work, but I'm not convinced yet, that the B14R is the way for me to go. I'm pleased with y CZ's and the Sako Finnfire II .22LR performances.
Keep 'em coming. Thanks for this.
I actually prefer my CZ457, but I do like the size of the magazines better in the Bergara. I just wish it was easier to replace the barrel with a pre fit like the CZ. That really is it’s only downfall.
Merry Christmas! Awesome video. I have the Begara in an MPA chassis and I absolutely love it. 22lr is one of my most favorite calibers to shoot.
.22 is a blast. And can be frustrating too. Lol
Nice shooting especially in that cold with that ammo.
Hello Eli! Thanks man. I tell you I’ve had real good results with Eley SABR. Not so much in the 10/22s though. Jam a ramma!
@@RimfireSS Don did you test the 10/22 in the summer or in the same cold weather?
@@Dayattherange I’ve shot it in the cold and the summer, it jams like crazy in the cold. But most of my 10/22s do. But the Eley jams the most in the cold.
I think it’s a magazine problem.
@@RimfireSS Could be though I am shocked to hear about jamming issue with the rotary magazine. They are known for reliability but for some reason I have troubles with accuracy from them. Look at the front of your 10.22 magazine and I see a ton of lead build up from bullet shaving. The JOY of 22. Keep shooting be safe and keep putting out great content.
That's good shooting 100 yards cold weather I know I shoot better when it's warmer and as far as muzzle brake I do the same thing some days I think it shoots better with some days I think it shoots better with out think it all depends on the day and the weather like you said
I may have pulled a couple of the shots I made with the brake on. This weekend it’s suppose to be warm 50 degrees. Lol, think I’m gonna test that some more. I’ll bet it’s about the same. I like the look of the rifle better with it on. Bergara only has a 18” barrel and it looks somewhat short to me, but just right with the brake on. Would be nice if it shot the same or better. I tried a EC tuner and I couldn’t get any consistent results with it so I took it off. Not sure about those things, people swear by them but my testing hasn’t come up with anything fantastic at all.
Amazing groups for a stock .22. Very good test. Thanks a lot for sharing. Best regards from Germany
Thanks for watching!
I put my .22 ammo in a little insulated box with a couple of chemical hand warmers during cold weather. Makes a difference.
I bought another B14R last week. Have not had a chance to group test it yet - weather. I did try something that cut the cocking effort and bolt cycling in half. Good old straight STP. I applied a drop to the lugs and cocking areas on the bolt. Looks like they fixed the ejector issue as mine is tight - no movement.
I shoot center fire to 1000 yards regularly, 1500 on occasion with a 308 Winchester, 6.5cm and 243 Winchester. A Gamo Swarm magnum from 25 to 75 yards. A 10-22 with Volquartsen carbon fiber barrel, trigger, hammer kit and Archangel adjustable stock from 25 to 100 yards. I believe out of all of these the Gamo Swarm magnum has taught me more about trigger pull and follow through. I have around 6000 Crossman premier dome H.P, weight sorted and base formed, through it. 970 fps is the average chronograph. Somewhere between 250 and 500 rounds the accuracy starts to wane. I just scrub the barrel and right back to POA. I know most powder burners will snub this away, but some like I, may find trigger discipline and your follow through improved. If not you will definitely see it on your air gun targets. The Swarm mag. Is a break barrel with a pretty heavy cocking effort. I'm really banged up so most shouldn't have a problem. It is relatively cheap to shoot and deadly on larger birds at 50 yards, (crow size). Reasonably accurate to 100, (on calm days) with a decent scope with adjustable turrets and your choice reticle. Splatters the 14.3 gr pellets at 100 yards on hard targets. Excellent for small varmint hunting with in its range or for backyard work. Something else that impresses me is the trigger on my Swarm magnum. Especially since it is plastic. There are better, more expensive options but for the money and simplicity the Swarm mag is great. Mine is the gen1. There is a gen3 I believe available with some updates and changes.
Great video's and information on your channel.
Keep'em coming!
I will, glad you liked it.
I have had a chance to shoot my Bergara a good bit now. It really likes SABRP. Shoots 1/2 moa at 100yds. I set the action screw torque at 45in/lbs. Grouped best there.
Nice
Well done, will be watching for more content. Subscribed!
I just picked up another Bergara barreled action, but I have yet to finish the building it (I have everything for the build) because it will mean t a trip to the range. It’s to cold and windy here in Idaho, and I will regret every minute of it. 😊
Oh..... there's no way.. I could wait to assemble that rifle. Lol, I'm like a kid on Christmas morning when the mailman comes!
Bet warmer weather will get different results. Good video.
For sure. Usually better.
Good job Don, wish I could shoot that good in the cold. If you ever get the chance, try an LA101 in cooler weather
Shoot good does it?
@@RimfireSS Hi Don, you might want to try Eley Force just for giggles, Its done pretty well for me. 42gr bullet, high velocity, 5.25/box from Eley. Downside above average misfires but it does good at 100. Like all ammo it just depends if the barrel likes it, T1X didnt, Shaw barrel did, Volquartsen did
@@keithkircher1782 thanks for the info!
Once again nice shooting. I could like a lot of other guys and say but mine shoots 1/2 moa with that brand. But that’s not me and every stinking rifle is different. I can say in the cold mine loves cci standard, when it warms up eley team. But thats at my elevation here in idaho. I just wish my cz shot like yours. My B14R is by far the better shooter. Nice video and thank you for being a TH-camr that shoots more than one rifle. I would love to see a comparison of both rifles, the CZ and the Bergara, each shooting their preferred ammo. Do it day at the range hostage challenge targets at 50, then challenge your viewers to do the same and post results. I love using that target to test rifles, i actually prefer it to shooting groups. Often times i am only shooting once or twice then moving on to the next, so it is a closer representation of how the gun actually shoots.
I could do the comparison but with the mods I’ve done to the CZ it wouldn’t be fair. That rifle is a tac driver extreme!
Nice shooting. Adding a muzzle break will change the barrel tune and change the exit gas cloud. It may help with some ammo and hurt others. I liked the extra groups with it to see what happens. I do that at the range all the time. Always testing to try and find more data and experience. Its a blast. Keep on rolling man, doing a great job. Im playing with a heavy tuner and carbon fiber bloop tubes at the moment. Made them on the lathe.
Now that’s cool.
I subscribed. You have good presentation & no waisted time in the videos. Just good videos setting things up, shoot & test then results. Looking to film some of my my range shooting not starting up a TH-cam channel. I would appreciate if you could post. What cameras are you using & how do you film the target portion? I've googled how to do that but get nothing but adds. Thanks for your work making these vids.
I use a Panasonic FZ80 camera for the Target, it has a 60x zoom. I usually set it up about 20 yards from the target, then zoom in. I use a GOPRO 9 Black for everything else.
@@RimfireSS Thanks
If you're in Ohio, you're a die hard shooter for sure being it's been -5 to 10 degrees Fahrenheit the last few days! I like the through the man door shooting another guy was shooting out a second story window (not sure if he was training for the same thing or not lol) but you have to be able to shoot in the environment your live in. To be honest it's probably a good test for your lube and rifle action. My rifle gummed up with grease and I went back to the thinner oil for lower temps (break free).
I’m in Michigan and it’s been damn cold here as well. I don’t have any trouble with the CZ457 or the Bergara but the 10/22s are a different story. Gonna try dry lube in the magazines and the rifle. See if that helps. The magazines get super stiff and the rounds do some crazy shit when it’s there turn to come up to the bolt. Sometimes they jump up 45 degrees and totally miss the chamber, lol. Can be super frustrating.
@@RimfireSS I used "rem oil clp" spray it has silicone in it if you run a rag through it to dry it will leave silicone in there for lube . Works on pistol mags well had to use the red W/C or break free on my AR but haven't went out to shot below 45 deg. F. so???? Good luck Merry Christmas!
Best thing for a Bergara
Is don’t clean the bore only the chamber. I’ve put thousands and thy through mine😊
I have to say I'm enthused by my shooting by watching this! I'm shooting a bone stock Ruger 10/22 with a BX trigger and a magpul stock with a 12 power vortex scope and maybe shooting roughly one and a half inch MOA most of the time with going down to an inch at least half the time!
.22 is only so accurate. Even the $4000 rifles will only shoot so good. We are limited by the ammunition. Now there’s a big difference between 1.5” and .75” at 100 yards. Even between 1” and .75. Getting that 1/4 is hard sometimes with some ammunition and some rifles. Getting the right ammunition for your rifle in your price range is 80 percent of shooting tight groups with a .22.
@@RimfireSS your point is well taken. I think the best challenge for me is to use a pretty basic rifle and see how good I can get. I see a lot of people spending a lot of money for competition rifles and fancy ammunition in some of these TH-cam shorts, and they don't seem to be shooting very much better than I am with a pretty basic setup.
@@fppro1679 watch my last video, the Savage MKii at 200. That’s a very inexpensive rifle.
@@RimfireSS Will do! Thanks!!
I have a piece of yoga mat that i put under my arm and rear bag. They are pretty “grippy”, I,get the A_ma…. Ones, they also make great bench mats. I hate it when im not comfortable behind the rifle and the cold is bad enough. The chassis are stiffer and, in my experience fit he gun better than mass produced factory stocks which unless you add pillars and bedding the action tends to move around
I sold my B14R due to poor accuracy. Scoping the barrel showed why. Poorly cut lands and grooves. Some had loose ejectors. Mine did not. That problem has a simple cure. TH-cam has many videos showing the fix.
I havent had any problems with mine at all.
I’m running the same rifle and I’m also in Michigan. I haven’t tried a 100 with that ammo. I did shoot it at 200. It showed some promise. I think I was also using 1066
Yeah it seems to like the Eley more then SK.
If you find a lot of ammo that works well, can you then order it in bulk? Or, are you stuck chasing it on the internet? I shoot a couple 95 year old Model 52 Winchesters. One with mid fifties Litschert Targeteer Sr in 12x and one with factory ladder sight. So far, the Eley Match in the black box has performed best, but it's not on the shelves here. One thing that's interesting to me, being a motorcycle guy and watching the technology still advancing in big chunks, but firearms seemed to have peaked on development about the mid fifties and the improvements are very gradual since. My scoped 52 will put as many as you want to shoot in a one inch group on a calm day. If you look at the Winchester archives, sub moa was the standard with the 52 after about the mid thirties, These rifles cost more than a Model 70 and were made in the custom shop. They give up very little to modern rifles and most of the improvements are probably due to better ammo than anything.
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There really isn’t much in stock at the moment but when they restock order a few boxes of the lots with the highest quantity on hand. Try them out then order as much as you can afford. That’s what I do. You can also have your rifle sent to them where they will lot test it for you then sell you as much as you want. Lapua does the same thing.
Just discovered your channel, lots of good info. I got my CZ457, 10-22 and B14-ER to shoot. I noticed that the bolt action on your B14-r seems effortless. Mine is very hard to cock, do you perform the bolt grinding fix to free up the action?
Honestly I haven’t touched anything on this rifle. It has never jammed or miss fed. It’s been great since I bought it. Only thing I’ve done is move it from chassis to chassis and clean it. The action has been flawless. But, I would have smoothed out everything with 800 grit and then 1500 and polished it afterward. I’ve done that to several different rifles and it smoothed out everything. If that don’t work then maybe the grinding fix.
Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
My Bergara and a buddy both had a heck of a time figuring them out. I quit cleaning the bore and only the chamber, I run it until my 50 yd groups open up more than usual. Mine also hates a comp. Cleaning it now is maybe a wet patch and a few dry and after a lot pof round and groups worse than ever i will deep clean and start all over but it seems to be getting better after a year and about 10K rounds lol, never owned a rifle this picky but man when she wants to shoot she can throw .09's to .2's at 50 all day
Mine seems to shoot Eley the best. I used to buy the Match too, but the SABR has been shooting acceptable to me. And I'm kind of cheap. Not really but I'm not gonna pay twice as much for something that might not shoot as well as what I've been using. $10 per 50 is about my limit.
@@RimfireSS I’m with you, match is pretty much only competition ammo anymore but it used to hate cci Standard but does great now for cheap but the best is SK Standard plus!! Your try much SK?
@@Picit13 yeah, it shoots SK well too, but the last couple lots I got of the Long Range and Rifle match were noting great. Now the lots I had before theses shot awesome. Think if I remember right the good lots averaged .76 at 100. And these last lots were over a inch. Wish we could buy SK by the lot like you can Eley.
@@RimfireSS yeah SK has been dry for months and kist [popped in, I did not check it against what the Bergara like but like you I have a few so something has to like it!
Quick question , who are your favorite youtube .. .22 contributors and why? You are the newbie op lots of questions lol
@@Picit13 .22 contributors or creators?
Merry Christmas! Pretty cold here as well. Have you tried hand warmers in a lunch bag to keep magazines and ammo warm. I am gonna try it vs cold ammo. Maybe it will help.
No I haven’t but I’ll give it a shot.
I see u had no issues with extracting spent brass.... what your solution, mags? Almost all videos ive seen show a piece flop back in the action...and jam things up
I’m not sure, I’ve never had any issues with this rifle extracting. Not sure what the solution is.
Try a Harrells tuner. SABR 1056-1058 shoots 1\2 moa at 100. Best $105 I ever spent.
Man I tried the EC tuner and it really didn’t do much for me.
@@RimfireSS The Harrells tuner that screws on the barrel is not as effective as the larger one that clamps onto the barrel OD. My Savage TR has the larger one. It out shoots all of my .22s. My Vudoo buds just shake their heads. I can certainly afford a Vudoo, but why would I want one? Too many operational issues with a $3,000 rifle. A friend has two. One with a Bartlein barrel. He has given up on them and gone to a 457 with Lilja barrel.
BTW I attached a screw on Harrell's to my Ruger Precision Rimfire. It now shoots under 3/4" at 100 with SABR.
@@joed3264 I’ll have to try it out.
What editing app are you using
Power Director
The number you are stating is not the lot number, its the fps of the round measured at the factory. The actual lot number is the number on top.
I never said it was the lot number.
Somewhat interesting but kind of, a waste of good ammo with your weather conditions. Also, i noticed you'r complaining about your jacket causing some comfort prior to the second test? Why wouldn't you have a proper bench/rest setup your comfortable prior to shooting?
Great video! That’s interesting about the group sizes comp vs no comp. I guess it makes sense though, if the crown of your muzzle is messed up, the groups open up. Wouldn’t the compensator be kind of a imperfect crown?
We’ll not really, the comp can alter the groups by adding weight and changing the harmonics of the barrel. Kind of like a un adjustable barrel tuner. Have you ever used a barrel tuner?
@@RimfireSS No, I never have. How effective are they on 22rf?
@@jimbo3615 in my testing, not effective at all, or repeatable.
@@RimfireSS Then what did the comp do that made the groups worse? Did it mess up the tune of the barrel or did the holes mess with the aerodynamics of the bullet? It would be interesting if you have a comp that was solid.
@@jimbo3615 it changed the harmonics of the barrel. Honestly I’d have to do more testing with and without the comp on the barrel. Shooting 4 groups probably is not enough of a sample size to say one way or another. That will be another video in the not so far away future.
When it is cold i use sk biatlon and biatlon is made fore cold wheater
Been trying to find some of that. Any advice when to find it?
Try outdoor unlimited or creedmoor sports
I think the coldest I ever shot in -- I live in northern Ontario -- was -50C/-58F with windchill, -35C/-31F without, and I can conclusively say that I hated my life that day, ha ha.
I bet you did! Omg! I’ve hunted in some cold but not like that!