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- I have a new Lilja Barreled 10/22 pattern rifle that shoots Sub MOA at 200 yards constantly. The wind wasn't great in todays video, but the day before it was nailing sub MOA at 200 every time. Of course it always happens when the cameras are not running. This Lilja Barreled 10/22 sports a PRP Rubicon Receiver and Bolt, KIDD Trigger Kit, MDT ORYX Chassis and Vertical Elite Grip. It has a Arken EP5 and Cantilever 30 MOA Mount. This rifle shoots almost as good as my Lilja Barreled CZ457 but not quite. But the CZ can't shoot as fast either. This is my most accurate and expensive 10/22. Watch the video to see it drive Eley Team shot after shot on top of each other and sub moa groups at 200 yards. But is it worth the price? IDK....
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Guess I will stick with my low cost 10/22. I use a stock bolt and receiver. The 24" Green Mountain is as accurate as my Bergara and CZ457. The receiver has to be heated to insert the barrel. I use a Titan stock with the spike. I did make a pocket in the receiver for the end of the spike. It has the Kidd single stage trigger kit. Our most distant targets are at 200 yds. I still use the $150 Riton X1 scopes. I own 6 of them. BTW I found a Lot of Eley SABRP that all three of my rifles love. Bought a case. I did lose by one target Saturday. Errant gust of wind hit me at 200 yds. Match winner was shooting a $4,000 Anschutz setup.
Boy you got lucky finding a lot that shoots out of all three. This rifle just like all the others has ammunition it likes. I shot this rifle off camera the evening before when the wind was at a stand still and it shot even better. The light was dimming so I didn’t bother with cameras. I wish I could post pics of the groups on here. Everything was under 2” one group covered a nickel with one high flier that made it a 1.2” group. Pretty happy with it but that barrel is expensive compared to the others available.
I really enjoy your channel i shot a walther single shot for many years and my freinds hated that gun. i had it at 9 years old.i bought my first 10-22 at 65.im 74 now and have owned several.nothing comes close to that walther in accuracy ,and nothing comes close to the 10-22 in fun thanks for your videos
Don I have been a supporter since you started and asked a while ago if you would do a lilja 10/22 barrel test and here it is. So thank you for the great video as usual and bringing up the content we want to see.
I do what I can…. And can afford. Lol
Don, I enjoy your videos. Thank you. Could not help but notice the wind in the trees behind you. This made me think that your groups would have been even better without the wind. I customized my 10/22 Takedown and it is still a work in progress. I added a Beyer barrel 18.5 inches and took your advice with a KIDD single stage trigger at 1.5 lbs. Added a Tandemkross bolt. I get bug hole groups at 25 yards and sub MOA at 50 - with cheap ammo. Have not shot longer but surely won't get your level of accuracy. Am still pondering the Powder River receiver although I am a clean freak and like the 11/22 FRW open top receiver. If/when I get around to doing a 10.22 custom build (not Takedown), I will follow your expertise and experience with the Powder River, Kidd, Lilja. But that is a few holidays/birthdays away LOL.
I shot the evening before when the wind calmed down to a whisper and It shot every group below 2”. I meant to put them in the video but forgot.
Your collection of super accurate 22 lr rifles has to be at the top in the nation. Congrats and thank you for the best content out there!
Thanks, Doug. But there's always someone that has better stuff. Lol
Fantastic build! Fantastic shooting!! Fantastic T shirt!!! Go to 12:40 in the timeline and watch the magazine jump when there are fliers and not when it groups tight, also the next group. With my 10/22’s, I have always suspected that the mag well and the magazine were the cause of my flyers but have never videoed me shooting them. Congrats on the “No guts” challenge!! Thanks for all the awesome content!!! 😊
I’ll check it out
@@RimfireSS HUH! I see what fairview is reffering to but thought I could also see some magazine "twitch" on your good group also. Would be interesting to hear what you think of this. Fairview is right on about the T shirt.
Thats insanely accurate! wow! nice job once again, Don. Cheers...
Anybody with an unlimited budget can overcome all obstacles.
I just picked up a new 10-22 s/s Anniversary model. I haven't owned one in almost 30 years.
Very happy to get back into shooting. And now I see the sky is the limit on my favorite 22 rifle.
Just a thought, if you have a great rail/ Hangguard idea. Primary Arms has been fun to watch. They have become a great shooters company and manufacturer a lot of their own stuff.
I buy a lot from Primary Arms. Great company.
Very Nice. I do the day at the range challenges with a couple 10/22’s that I built. Mine shoot good, but your build is truly next level.
Thanks
Great video ! I’m thinking of a very similar build. Thanks for the tip on the trigger.
It’s a awesome trigger!
Damn INCREDIBLE!!!!!!! Thank you for the amazing content man!
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Yeeowsaa!! Those actions are pricey! For that kind of money it certainly better perform better than anything else out there. A build with that action and a custom barrel and chassis/trigger would be reaching bolt gun pricing easy. It would be a choice you'd have to really think about before committing to. I'm hoping to see more reviews of these actions as I don't really see any other than yours posted. Thanks for sharing and getting me looking at another build I'm sure my wife will have words for you LOL.
Actually the action is really not that expensive, when you consider it has everything. When you start adding things up with even Brownells parts with a great trigger your about there. The build is definitely expensive with this barrel, Real expensive, but I could have went higher with the new Kidd Chassis and 2 stage Kidd trigger and a $400 XLR stock. lol skies the limit and it does shoot great. But do you want to repeat or not? That’s the question really, now I was given a lot of this build or given a discount on some of the parts so I don’t have a too much into it. But you better think hard if you wanna build something similar cuz it’s gonna cost ya! Lol
I now where you stand on cheap stuff....and great channel btw... been a follower for a long time. But if you can, one day maybe, try to test bolt winchester xpert 22lr. I love to see a shooter like you review it.
If I ever come across one I’ll consider it. Hard to buy every gun out there when funds are limited. I’m trying to get manufacturers to donate products from now on as I’ve spent way to much out of pocket. I like making the videos but honestly the pay sucks. Hopefully someday this channel will pay for itself.
Love your vids. Wish I had access to 200 yds to shoot, but living in the big city puts a damper on that. Will deal with what I have and be glad that I live in a red state!
It is nice to have access to 200 outside my door. Thanks for watching!
Last 2 rows in the middle were 8's, close, but not a clear 10. 42 on second row down and a 72 on the 3rd row giving you a score of 158 as I see in your video.
Great shooting for sure!
Very nice rifle Don!!!
Actually they were not, the angle of the camera makes it look that way but a flat target with a view plug it’s scored correctly.
Ok Don now same ammo and put that barrel in a cheap receiver with the same bolt headspace(I’m sure you have one). Then see what the receiver it’s self is doing for the group sizes. I’m already sold on powder river quality just saving for that receiver/bolt/trigger combo. Thanks again!
I’m not taking this one apart. Very tight barrel to receiver fitment. Takes some heat to join them together. Don’t want to wear out the receiver. Lol
Not even in the interest of science? Just kidding I have a cz 452 that shoots so accurately I’m paranoid of cleaning it or taking it apart to put an aluminum mag well.
Not even in the interest of science? Just kidding I have a cz 452 that shoots so accurately I’m paranoid of cleaning it or taking it apart to put an aluminum mag well.
Not even in the interest of science? Just kidding I have a cz 452 that shoots so accurately I’m paranoid of cleaning it or taking it apart to put an aluminum mag well.
Not even in the interest of science? Just kidding I have a cz 452 that shoots so accurately I’m paranoid of cleaning it or taking it apart to put an aluminum mag well.
Any of those groups are fantastic at 200 yards with a 22lr. Plus, looking at the trees, you were fighting some wind.
I was. Can’t pick when I can film sometimes. Gotta deal with the weather I’m given some days.
This may be good but the guy at STKO splits cards on edge at 150 yards with his $250, stock 10/22 carbine and Barska scope. Just ask him and he'll tell you.
@@whiskeykilmer1866 OMG!!! Me and Josh were just talking about him. 😂
@@RimfireSS Hahaha
.2’s all day long with with those thunderbolt’s and PowerPoints.
@@chainbenwa2713 bahahahaha..
Lilja make great barrels!
Yes Sir!!
@@RimfireSS I have a 16" 6.5 Grendel from Lilja, it is a hammer. And I got lucky at a PRS match a couple weeks back, won a 50% off Lilja barrel certificate. Trying to decide what I'll get, and .22LR did cross my mind.
Carson Lilja was MD and the match was on a ranch outside Ronan MT, great setting and very fun match. Tough winds, though!
@@seanoneil277 don’t think you can go wrong with the 10/22 barrel.
@@RimfireSS Yours definitely is a good example!
Did you use the Kidd "trigger job kit" on a BX trigger?
Awesome rifle❤
Wow! Thats impressive! I just got to shoot 200 with the 597 not long ago for the first time. 10" plate was just effortless. Time for groups i guess.
I’ve had trouble with most of my 10/22s holding 2 MOA. And I have some nice ones. Most of my bolt guns will shoot 1 moa or better easily. My best ones will shoot sub moa But they do it constantly. Every group. The semi autos are abit more finicky on technique. Follow through is very important. And some of my chassis are funny about how much pressure is put on the bipod. And then each rifle is different. Lol and my memory sucks!
@@RimfireSS I've found the less pressure = better groups with my rifle. I'll be lucky to get 3 moa at 200, but it's still more fun than 100!
Love the channel. Subscribed. Your "cheap" gun is what I'm looking to build. Sub MOA at 100 with a .22 is great by me. I have a Bergara Premier Series .300WM for long range work. 😊
I hear ya. There’s nothing wrong with the cheaper build. Although I would recommend a Kidd bolt and Receiver over the Brownells. It will cost a little more but not a lot and it’s way better quality.
@@RimfireSS thanks for the advise! Up till now my only 10/22 type gun is the TC/R22 clone. I like it but don't know how much it worth putting Money into that gun.
@@willy250r I think it’s better to just build one. That way your not spending money on parts you’ll just put in a box and never use again.
FJF 17" tapered barrel.
I’ve got a 17” Green Mountain heavy tapered barrel on a different build and it’s a shooter too.
@@RimfireSS whoa you have velocity tests n a video?
@@user-my5gj4me6q I haven’t really done a video on that build but honestly the velocities are not much different than a 20” barrel.
@RimfireSS like to see one on your 17". You'll be the first fella on You Tube who did. Bulk ammo too.
👍👍very nice score
WOW! Excellent!
Thanks for the video. Cyclops Joe sent me over
@@dennisholle1005 lol, I was just gonna ask if you just found my channel. Seen all the comments.
That’s a 20” barrel correct?
@@stacker8089 think there 21” but i bought this before they had other lengths.
Good Morning Don!!! Sweet shootin' rifle!! What's the power range on that scope? Thanks for sharin'!!!
It’s a 5-25x56
Told you month's ago
Awesome.
Thanks for the videos. What was the printed velocity on the eley team that you were using?
1073
Sweet!
Great video, where did you get the t shirt?
On another TH-camrs StreetSpeed717 website. It was a limited run. Not on there anymore.
Nice shirt ! I love it
Me to!!
Nice video but why are you using Eley team @9:20? You’ve got a great build so why not use Eley Tenex or at least Match?
We’ll honestly, I have so much going into this channel I try to use the best I can afford. Hell 85 percent of the people that watch my channel on a regular basis are not even subscribers. Hard to get manufacturers to donate stuff without a good subscription base. I have a lot of money that goes into making the videos already with all the rifles, camera equipment, tripods and ammunition is the killer. Just spent $800 out of pocket for 3 different kinds of ammo that shoot well in most of my rifles, and it’s not always Tenex or the high dollar stuff. And that might last 3 months.
Hi Don. Great Video. I found a oryx mLok panel. But its in Denmark. Its a Nieload. But it looks different to yours. It is a custom build?
Regards André
The MLOk was made by a customer of mine, I told him what I wanted and he built it. I was looking for a prototype that I could take to manufacture and possibly bring to market. Or maybe sell to someone who would have a easier and less costly chance of bringing it to market. I approached MDT and I heard crickets. So maybe there isn’t enough Oryx chassis in the wild to make it a worthwhile investment.
@@RimfireSS Looks great. Just found one in Denmark, another one in Australia. Both are just with 3 slots.
NCE.... GR8 VIDEO THNX
that is an awesome gun and Eley Team is not even top ammo.
@@mlone7 thanks, it sure shoots in this rifle. Better than everything I’ve tried. I did just get some SK long range I haven’t tried in it yet. Fingers crossed 🤞
Talk to Eric Cortina he has the equipment
10/22 " International" 50 yds, bench, 10 shots, no bigger than your thumbnail. Deadcenter.
2lb trigger, Free floated barrel from assembly bolt to muzzle. Back travel trigger stop bolt added. 3x9x40 scope on top.
Hey Don, you ever get ahold of bro( black rain ordinance)?
I emailed them with no response
Pretty common when people that watch don’t subscribe.
24” barrel?
21”
Run em
How much money did you put in that gun to get it to shoot like that I’ll bet more than you paid for it some groups were not so great
It’s a part built gun, so I’m not sure what you mean. Also it was quite windy if you didn’t notice the tree in the background. And which groups were not so great? Worst one was 1.3 MOA at 200 yards on a somewhat windy day. 😂
@@RimfireSS I'd wager Mr Addison can't shoot half as well as you, Don.
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Sorry I forgot to put it in there.
That kind of $$$for a .22? Lol
Keep in mind people spend 6-7000 on .22 rifles. Lol
@@RimfireSS Bore size does not determine cost. Hell, my pcp air gun I built for shooting slugs I design and cast has near 4K in it. (1/4 to 3/8" at 100 yards all day long).
For years many match promoters for .22 rf refused to let us compete saying we couldn't be competitive. They had no idea our extreme spread hovers around 9 to 12 fps and usually much tighter.
A recent national .22 event was held and they finally relented. AirGuns took first, second, and third. So there! And yeah, the cost like it! Figure in the compressors, 45 psi air tanks and accessories they are far more expensive than .22 RF.
KnifeMaker
@14:20. Use Tenex not Team.
Read comment above.
So sub MOA with Team isn’t good enough for you? How well do you think these rifles shoot? If I had only one rifle to find ammunition that shoots well in it that might be different. I’m trying to find ammunition that will shoot decent in 20 different rifles and believe it or not Tenex has not been it. I’ve tried all sorts of ammunition in these rifles and Tenex has not performed consistently for me.
@@RimfireSS Online people are so weird. He tells you what YOUR barrel should use, but he has not shot your barrel!
I get great results from Norma Tac-22 and from Eley Club in both of my .22LR rifles. One is T/CR 22, the other an AR with Right to Bear 16" pencil barrel.
But apparently I need to spend 2x to 2.5x on ammo that may be only equal.
@@seanoneil277 exactly!!! Every barrel shoot every ammunition different. It could be the next barrel off the line and it will shoot differently.