Fun fact, Nightwing got his name and persona from Superman, not Batman. Flamebird and Nightwing were two Kryptonian vigilantes that Kal told Dick about after Bruce kicked him out of the cave and said he couldn’t be Robin anymore after the Joker nearly killed him.
That's one version. Another is Dick was working with the Titans and Tim came into the picture, so Bruce asked him to change his name so Tim could be Robin. So he chose Nightwing as a little jab.
@@TimedRevolverRight, but I am talking the pre-crisis original origin of the character. The original concept debuted back in 1963 as Nightwing and Flamebird of Kandor. It was Kal and Jimmy being vigilantes in Kandor and based the designs on ancient Kryponian gods (and Batman) but mostly the gods.
Robin 1: Almost died to Joker, and was kicked out, but became Nightwing thanks to Superman (Based on what you said, I can't verify) Robin 2: Did die to the Joker but came back to life to become Joker's old persona, Redhood Robin 3: Is most likely to kill the Joker, and least likely to die to him. (I don't know if he ever even meets Joker, but I assume yes) Robin 4: She never fought the Joker but was Robin when the Joker died in a love tunnel with Batman.
Dick's time as Batman was fun in the comics. At some point, Dick was Gotham's Batman and Bruce was the world's Batman; a really fun scene happened once with a team of villains when they were surrounded and one of them said "they got 2 Batmans out there!"
Much as I love these movies and that you guys are enjoying them a lot, it should be a crime with how much Nightwing and Green Lantern get the snot beat out of them everytime they’re on screen.
Agreed Green Lantern especially because there is so much storytelling and cinematic potential they have with Green Lantern and yet DC and WB barely touch on the GL franchise. I am thankful for the little amazing Green Lantern content we've gotten like the insanely underrated Green Lantern Animated Series and Green Lantern First Flight and Green Lantern Emerald Knights animated films
The Batfamily has a lot of members. Three batgirls (Barbara Gordon also Oracle, Stephanie Brown also Spoiler, Cassandra Cain also Orphan), one batwoman (Kate), five to six separate robins (Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Stephanie briefly, and Carrie Kelly), Batwing (Luke Fox), Signal (Duke Thomas), Alfred, and of course Batman.
Canonically, the events of this film takes place before Justice League Vs. Teen Titans. That would explain why Batman wasn't so open to a team in the film up until the final battle.
Talia was Brought back to life by the lazarus pit.The lazarus pit is known to have disastrous effects om those who are raised from the dead in other words Talia was driven insane
Except it's temporary insanity the the pits do and Talia had shown no effects when she originally came out and the movie doesn't say she's insane. This is just them not thinking a head since the book Son Of Batman was based on had Talia as its villain and this one is based on a large part of Grant Morrison's Batman run.
@@TheCaptainKuhn I'd agree so it's one of two things either it's very lazy writing considering if she isn't insane in this movie then nothing in Son of Batman makes sense she's willing to die for Bruce and Damian be tortured by slade and takes a bullet for Damian she also fully understands Bruce's world views yet let's Damian stay knowing full well he would influence him Or she's gone insane and they just don't think to reference it this is primarily why this movie Is the lowest rated Batman movie in the collection I also see ALOT of people asking this same question
@mysteryman4252 I think it's just that they're being forced to adapt material they don't care about. By the time they finished making them; Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett and James Tucker had all left and they were the guys started these movies. I know that they also had their budgets slashed starting with Justice League War and it kept getting slashed.
@@mysteryman4252 They had to streamline the story as it played out in the comics. There's more than a year's worth of stories. Talia understands Batman's World View but she always tries to lure him over to the LOa ways. Talia does love Damian and is protective of him but she also has a fridge full of replacement should he step out of order. in the comics she disowned him when he decided he wanted to return to Gotham to be a hero.
The entire bat family is Batman, Red Robin, nightwing, Damian as robin, red hood although he’s kinda the black sheep of the family, batwoman, both batgirls first one is Gordon’s daughter 2nd one is Cassandra lady shivas daughter, Alfred, batwing, bat cow and ace
Well the Batmobile and Batbike are both apart of the family as the batwing and let’s not forget Batmobile is Alfred secret toy when Batman doesn’t use it
Fun Fact: Damian was originally Dick's Robin in the comics. That's why their dynamic is basically the reverse of the regular Batman and Robin dynamic aka Batman is the cheerful and peppy one while Robin is the dark and brooding serious one. Love how the running gag of calling the Mad Hatter Abraham Lincoln worked out.😂
Alfred knows how to throw hands and skilled with guns is because he is a former top agent of MI-6, before he became the Wayne's butler and bodyguard. The Bat-Family has around 20 or more members
And thinking that there is still Red Robin, Red Hood, Spoiler (Yes, that is the name of a member of the Bat family, Stefany Brown) and Orphan, in the Bat family, no one has more allies and subordinates than Batman.
While I am not really the biggest fan of this movie, I do have to say I really like the focus on the Bat-Family in this movie since a lot of Batman media tends to push them to the side despite how much of a quintessential part they play in Batman's mythos as we see Dick take up the mantle of Batman to honour Bruce despite how much he doesn't want to. I also love this movie's take on Batwoman, as this is the most faithful/best depiction of Batwoman we've seen. Believe me when I say other adaptations of her are really bad? I do kinda feel like Tailia was handled a bit poorly in this movie, and her sudden turn as a villain feels somewhat out of nowhere, considering that in Son of Batman, she showed genuine love for Damian and wanted what's best for him and even showed her feelings for Bruce despite how had conflicting feelings about what she did to him, and yet in this movie she's just as much of a cold malicious monster as Ras Al Ghul was, perhaps even worse, brainwashing Bruce and abusing Damian in captivity. I know she is a villain, but the way they established her character in this universe, she seemed far more of a three-dimensional character and actually wanted to change the League of Assassins for the better to make it something good, but in this movie, it seems like they just threw that all away.
I think their reasons for it and the easiest way to explain her complete 180 in terms of character is the Lazirous pit. Talia didn't just get injured in The Son Of Batman, she straight up died and while bringing someone back that on the verge of death chips away at them slowly, completely bringing someone back from the dead can have way more disastrous consequences. So, her being brought back from death basically sent her mad. The pit didn't necessarily bring back Talia, it resurrected her body but it gave life to a completely different person
The animated movies obliterate the live-action movies because they're made by teams that are passionate about these stories and characters. Meanwhile, WB keeps hiring alleged visionaries that can't help but try to reinvent the wheel.
Full watch order of left DCAMU: Justice League Dark Teen Titans: The Judas Contract Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay The death of Superman Constantine: City of demons Reign of the Supermen Batman: Hush Wonder Woman: Bloodlines Justice League Dark: Apokolips war Constantine: The House of Mystery Full watch order of Tomorrowverse which is continuation: Superman: Man of Tomorrow DC Showcase: Adam Strange Justice Society: World War II DC Showcase: Kamandi: The Last Boy on Earth! DC Showcase: Blue Beetle Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two Green Lantern: Beware My Power Legion of Super-Heroes Justice League: Warworld Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
Great list but don't forget other great DC animated movies like Superman Vs The Elite, Green Lantern: First Flight (2009), Green Lantern: Emerald Knight (2011), Wonder Woman (2009) etc...
A live action version of this would cost a shitload of money. Animation lets them do things that would either be too expensive or just not possible in live action.
Honestly, I call bull on that. You could very well do this movie in live action. The characters don't even have any powers, it's just regular people beating the crap out of each other. The only things that would need a high budget would be Batwing and the watchtower falling; both of which could still be done cheaper with partial practical effects. Green Lantern? Sure, I can understand that. But Batman doesn't need crazy stuff. The real reason is that the big wigs just don't give a shit. They're not gonna hire writers and directors who made "kid stuff" (read: animation). The animated movies have more freedom, yes, but not just because of budget reasons, as they tend to have lower budget than the live action movies in the first place, but rather because the people with money don't take them seriously so they don't have as much scrutiny.
@@armaggedon390 At this point I wouldn't trust DC to properly animate a billboard in a film, let alone a falling, flying structure. It's gonna look like PS2 era jank ass.
Alfred is the only one excempted from batman's no guns and no kill rule. and before becoming a butler for the waynes he once served in the british army and was also a former britsh agent.
(At 12:25) He just got back from Afghanistan to see his father, and he gets caught up in the middle of THIS? And he was too good against the first two, but then gets overpowered by The Heretic. What really had me worried was when he said, "Get us into the Vault… or your _son_ becomes a memory". Glad HE'S part of the Bat Family, eventually.
The thing about Batman is that Bruce is the mask. After his parents death he becomes a shell of himself until he eventually takes up the mantle of Batman. He is practically only Batman in the beginning and has to learn the usefulness of and how to be Bruce. So him sitting alone in his cowl isn’t that surprising
(At 10:47) My question is: How do you recover after you, your mother, and your twin sister, kidnapped, tortured then, taken hostage, and then your mother and sister got murdered… on your birthday?
Funny enough, they tried to give us this in live action with the CW shows, which included the first live action portrayals of Batwoman and Luke Fox (Batwing) but because of budget and studio/character limitations, they never reached the level of the animated films or shows, who aren't anywhere near as limited because the studios don't feel like an animated film released to Home Video can hold a candle to a live action movie released in theaters. The issue with creating a live action film continuity like what Marvel has done with theirs has always been the individual film limitations, actor paychecks and contracts and conflicting views from the studio and the filmmakers. Marvel got lucky in the early years with how everything turned out, though we are seeing the signs of the Marvel Franchise struggling under its own weight. Personally I feel that DC can and should focus more on its animated films and give them the budgets they deserve. They might actually outperform Marvel in theaters... if they ever became brave enough to make theatrical releases of them.
The MCU worked because it didn't start out trying to be a connected universe. They made independent movies that could stand on their own and just threw Nick Fury in as a cameo hoping that maybe, possibly, some day it would amount to something. When DC tried it, they built it universe first, and then tried to jam the movies into a pre-made shape. Thus, the movies were not individually good enough. They also tried to rush to the Justice League as fast as possible, meaning they had to introduce multiple new characters while also bringing everyone together. With Avengers, all the major characters, outside of Hawkeye, had already been introduced in prior movies, so they could spend more of the runtime on the movie's actual plot instead of character introductions. DC wanted what Marvel had but didn't have the patience to earn it.
Man I love watching these guys, feels like watching the movies again with friends. Just two things tho: 1) I kinda hate you cause’ you can just binge ALL OF THEM while I waited YEARS for each of these movies since flash point. And 2) Am I the only one who’s morbidly waiting for them to reach Apokolips? if you know you know
"Why don't they just make live action version of this??" Thank. Fucking. You. I'm tired of all live action Batman movies being another fucking origin story remix. They just never seem capable of moving past the early phase of Batman's career. We barely get a Robin (and when we did it was terrible), let alone a string of them, which is a sin because, despite the live action movies insistence, Batman is NOT a loner. Dude's a dad. He's a team leader. He ain't open and sociable, but he has the biggest "family" of all the big DC heroes. Bruce's complicated relationships with his Robins/children are core to his character, and each of them were vital it shaping and reshaping him throughout the years, yet we never get to see this on the big screen.
So, Talia's lackeys include Electrocutioner, Tusk, Firefly, Killer Moth, Hellhound (The guy with the red mask and karate skills), Mad Hatter, Onyx, and Calculator (The guy with the cybernetic eye). There are plenty of other movies not connected to the DC Animated Universe that you're watching. I wholeheartedly request Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, Justice League: The New Frontier, Batman: Assault on Arkham, and Justice League: Gods and Monsters. Thank you. Oh, and Kori is short for Koriand'r. Starfire's real name.
A little comic fun fact about Batwoman is that much the same as Batman and Robin, a female pair eventually appeared in the forms of Kathy Kane's Batwoman and Bette Kane's Bat-Girl. Bette is the original before Barbara Gordon was created. You might notice that Kathy evolved into Kate. An additional fun fact is that Alfred, at the time period, fully believed that Bruce and Kathy would get married and have a son together who would become the Robin to Dick Grayson's Batman. The really creepy thing is that much like the later Kate Kane, Kathy and Bette are Bruce's cousins as Martha Wayne's maiden name is Kane. General question to actual comic readers, as Slade's wife's maiden name is also Kane, does that make Slade's kids related to Batman? Or is that like a completely different family that just so happens to have the same last name?
Them losing it to the amount of bat family members makes me laugh. They will never know Jason, Tim, Steph and Cass. Its always bugged me that this universe has batwoman and batwing but not Red hood, red robin, Spoiler and orphan
I really like reading about the bat familly even more than just Batman in big part because I love how they clash with Bruce. He can be a massive dick and at times they can humble him. Which brings back those moments that highlight why they are called a familly rather than just a team.
Nightwing being the one who snaps his father out of it is always nice to see you. That is his first son. Damian may be his blood related son, but Nightwing is his first son.
Fun fact: mad hatter isn't really a villian yet his name is Jervis tetch and he was just trying to stay alive even though through all versions he is villainous he is still the most tame of the villians as he doesn't really do evil he is just a human rejected by a girl named Alice which his why he goes by mad hatter, and his look was inspired by the times during Abraham Lincoln so you're not off the mark entirely
Warner Bros had a mostly finished live-actiin Batwoman movie with Brendan Frasier as Firefly. It was going to be a more street-level superhero film. But with leadership switch and the rebooted live action universe, it got aborted despite being quite far along.
Oh and we don’t get any live action versions of the bat family bcuz most the directors and producers they hire don’t read comics that’s why James Gunn is planning on changing that n bringing the spot light to lesser known characters n groups in dc since he’s the head now
"Perhaps you relied on my masters vow against lethal force. Let me assure you that I subscribe to no such niceties" - Alfred Pennyworth, while reloading a shotgun
"He's gotta be in the other movies, you don’t give us batwing and then take this away." Oh they took it away, they took him away, they took everyone and everything away and spat on them like they were filthy dog water, then asked us to praise them for it. There is no end to my contempt for apocolyps war, it didnt even have the decency to be a good movie when it shit in my eyes
The only ones missing from this family are Jason Todd Red Hood, Tim Drake Red Robin, Ace the Bathound. There’s also Cassandra Cain who also took the names Batgirl and Orphan Stephenie Brown who was also Batgirl but better known as Spoiler. Lastly there’s Duke Thomas as The Signal but he was relatively new.
Some people think the reason we don't get this stuff in live action is budget, but I call bull on that. You could very well do this movie in live action. The characters don't even have any powers, it's just regular people beating the crap out of each other. The only things that would need a high budget would be Batwing and the watchtower falling; both of which could still be done cheaper with partial practical effects. Green Lantern? Sure, I can understand that. But Batman doesn't need crazy stuff. The real reason is that the big wigs just don't give a shit. They're not gonna hire writers and directors who made "kid stuff" (read: animation). The animated movies have more freedom, yes, but not just because of budget reasons, as they tend to have lower budget than the live action movies in the first place, but rather because the people with money don't take them seriously so they don't have as much scrutiny.
Glad to join you guys on your journey of DC appreciation. Some other movies that you should check out that are DC but not official DCAMU but the larger DC Universe Original Movies. These are stand alone stories. _ Green Lantern: First Flight (2009) - Green Lantern origin story - Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010) - Great mystery story involving Joker - All-Star Superman (2011) - What would superman do with his last days alive? - Green Lantern: Emerald Knights (2011) - A bunch of shorter stories about different Green Lanterns - Superman vs The Elite (2012) - This hits at the core of who superman is - Justice League: Gods and Monsters (2015) - What if Justice League were supernatural monsters?
I’m sure plenty have said this but to a certain extent I don’t think they can make live action versions of this, not at budget. Not to mention the logistics of stunts and sets and fighting coreo, it’s why, in my opinion, live action ( at least for super hero’s ) will almost always fall short to animation. Animation lets you do the impossible
36:27 “It’s the theatre all over again.” Aaaaand that was the joke that sent me. They managed to make it a running gag without knowing anything in advance 😆 😂
So, in comics, if i had to guess off the top of my head there is about 13 members of the batfamily. If you guys want something that explores most of them check out Wayne Family Adventures. Its a slice of life webtoon thats really good
A recurring joke in the batman fandom is that the batfam is so big because Bruce keeps adopting/recruiting people or some people get into the family and, to be fair, it is pretty big
Hey you guys I’d like to recommend a show called My Adventures with Superman. There’s only 2 seasons right now totaling 20 episodes so you can get it done quick.
Fun fact, Nightwing got his name and persona from Superman, not Batman. Flamebird and Nightwing were two Kryptonian vigilantes that Kal told Dick about after Bruce kicked him out of the cave and said he couldn’t be Robin anymore after the Joker nearly killed him.
Wait whattt i didn't know that ty so much, I love nightwing lore
That's one version.
Another is Dick was working with the Titans and Tim came into the picture, so Bruce asked him to change his name so Tim could be Robin.
So he chose Nightwing as a little jab.
@@TimedRevolverRight, but I am talking the pre-crisis original origin of the character. The original concept debuted back in 1963 as Nightwing and Flamebird of Kandor. It was Kal and Jimmy being vigilantes in Kandor and based the designs on ancient Kryponian gods (and Batman) but mostly the gods.
Robin 1: Almost died to Joker, and was kicked out, but became Nightwing thanks to Superman (Based on what you said, I can't verify)
Robin 2: Did die to the Joker but came back to life to become Joker's old persona, Redhood
Robin 3: Is most likely to kill the Joker, and least likely to die to him. (I don't know if he ever even meets Joker, but I assume yes)
Robin 4: She never fought the Joker but was Robin when the Joker died in a love tunnel with Batman.
Batman:death in the family is a sequel to Batman: Under the redhood you guys should watch it
Dick's time as Batman was fun in the comics. At some point, Dick was Gotham's Batman and Bruce was the world's Batman; a really fun scene happened once with a team of villains when they were surrounded and one of them said "they got 2 Batmans out there!"
Much as I love these movies and that you guys are enjoying them a lot, it should be a crime with how much Nightwing and Green Lantern get the snot beat out of them everytime they’re on screen.
Grayson is my favorite Here so it kills me to watch him in these movies.
Agreed Green Lantern especially because there is so much storytelling and cinematic potential they have with Green Lantern and yet DC and WB barely touch on the GL franchise. I am thankful for the little amazing Green Lantern content we've gotten like the insanely underrated Green Lantern Animated Series and Green Lantern First Flight and Green Lantern Emerald Knights animated films
@@luciomatamoros6615 Dick gets done so dirty in like, every animated movie. Need to give my boy the respect he deserves.
@@milkiassamuel780Aquaman is cool now, so someone has to be the redheaded stepchild 😂. They should have made him Guy Gardener at least
I enjoy the Hal bashing. Never really liked him. Nightwing is a shame though, but he get starfire so it evens out.
The Batfamily has a lot of members. Three batgirls (Barbara Gordon also Oracle, Stephanie Brown also Spoiler, Cassandra Cain also Orphan), one batwoman (Kate), five to six separate robins (Dick, Jason, Tim, Damian, Stephanie briefly, and Carrie Kelly), Batwing (Luke Fox), Signal (Duke Thomas), Alfred, and of course Batman.
Don’t forget Ace the Bat Hound, Batcow and Jarro
Also, I just looked it up and Batwing was from Batman Inc. Wasn't that when they wanted to put a Batman in every country?
Also Harper Row (Bluebird) IIRC.
@@zachwillett5853 Yes but this version of Batwing is the 2nd Batwing not David from batman Inc
@@chinyereugwu9431 Ah. Well, oops. Didn't do a very thorough look. Sorry.
“From here on, it’s only family.”
Dude, Kate is family. She’s your cousin.
RIGHT!? That part always bugged me too.
I think he meant it as like his sons
Said by Brainwashed, Talia Programmed Bruce. Its part of him acting out of character to ignore her.....
not in this universe
besides Batman has 2 sons both are named McGuinnes
When Batman said that he was under mind control.
At least now you boys know that there are MASSIVE differences between Batgirl and Batwoman. 💜
And between Batgirl and Batgirl ... and Batgirl and Batgirl.
Batgirl needed a side-kick to resuscitate the people she accidentally beat to death.
(At 2:43) You know what I didn't realize about Batwoman? She's wearing a wig. She's still redhead but her hair's not THAT long.
Pretty sure there's a scene in the comics where a villain tries to pull her hair but she just removes the wig and beats the crap out of him.
Yeah it's part of her disguise. Meanwhile, Nightwing out there with just the domino mask lol
She really is Bruce's cousin. To do that is something he'd see and be impressed by.
Canonically, the events of this film takes place before Justice League Vs. Teen Titans. That would explain why Batman wasn't so open to a team in the film up until the final battle.
They know. They watched this before JL Vs Teen titans.
I just wanna know why Talia did a complete 180
@@Kurotama11 In "Son of Batman" Batman puts Talia in the Lazarus Pit to save her life. It turned her evil.
@@Commander_Shepard. which one was that? I do not remember at all 😭
Talia was Brought back to life by the lazarus pit.The lazarus pit is known to have disastrous effects om those who are raised from the dead in other words Talia was driven insane
Except it's temporary insanity the the pits do and Talia had shown no effects when she originally came out and the movie doesn't say she's insane. This is just them not thinking a head since the book Son Of Batman was based on had Talia as its villain and this one is based on a large part of Grant Morrison's Batman run.
Tahlia was always nuts.
@@TheCaptainKuhn I'd agree so it's one of two things either it's very lazy writing considering if she isn't insane in this movie then nothing in Son of Batman makes sense she's willing to die for Bruce and Damian be tortured by slade and takes a bullet for Damian she also fully understands Bruce's world views yet let's Damian stay knowing full well he would influence him
Or she's gone insane and they just don't think to reference it this is primarily why this movie Is the lowest rated Batman movie in the collection I also see ALOT of people asking this same question
@mysteryman4252 I think it's just that they're being forced to adapt material they don't care about. By the time they finished making them; Bruce Timm, Alan Burnett and James Tucker had all left and they were the guys started these movies. I know that they also had their budgets slashed starting with Justice League War and it kept getting slashed.
@@mysteryman4252 They had to streamline the story as it played out in the comics. There's more than a year's worth of stories. Talia understands Batman's World View but she always tries to lure him over to the LOa ways. Talia does love Damian and is protective of him but she also has a fridge full of replacement should he step out of order. in the comics she disowned him when he decided he wanted to return to Gotham to be a hero.
The entire bat family is Batman, Red Robin, nightwing, Damian as robin, red hood although he’s kinda the black sheep of the family, batwoman, both batgirls first one is Gordon’s daughter 2nd one is Cassandra lady shivas daughter, Alfred, batwing, bat cow and ace
Well the Batmobile and Batbike are both apart of the family as the batwing and let’s not forget Batmobile is Alfred secret toy when Batman doesn’t use it
@@liladonn5646 Batwing is Luke Fox
Don't forget Stephanie aka Spoiler
And signal
How dare you forget Jarro
"It's weird watching a fistfight with guns."
Sounds like you should put Equilibrium on your list.
Fun Fact: Damian was originally Dick's Robin in the comics.
That's why their dynamic is basically the reverse of the regular Batman and Robin dynamic aka Batman is the cheerful and peppy one while Robin is the dark and brooding serious one.
Love how the running gag of calling the Mad Hatter Abraham Lincoln worked out.😂
Alfred knows how to throw hands and skilled with guns is because he is a former top agent of MI-6, before he became the Wayne's butler and bodyguard. The Bat-Family has around 20 or more members
And thinking that there is still Red Robin, Red Hood, Spoiler (Yes, that is the name of a member of the Bat family, Stefany Brown) and Orphan, in the Bat family, no one has more allies and subordinates than Batman.
23:57 Fun fact Dick Grayson actually got the name Nightwing from Superman.
While I am not really the biggest fan of this movie, I do have to say I really like the focus on the Bat-Family in this movie since a lot of Batman media tends to push them to the side despite how much of a quintessential part they play in Batman's mythos as we see Dick take up the mantle of Batman to honour Bruce despite how much he doesn't want to. I also love this movie's take on Batwoman, as this is the most faithful/best depiction of Batwoman we've seen. Believe me when I say other adaptations of her are really bad?
I do kinda feel like Tailia was handled a bit poorly in this movie, and her sudden turn as a villain feels somewhat out of nowhere, considering that in Son of Batman, she showed genuine love for Damian and wanted what's best for him and even showed her feelings for Bruce despite how had conflicting feelings about what she did to him, and yet in this movie she's just as much of a cold malicious monster as Ras Al Ghul was, perhaps even worse, brainwashing Bruce and abusing Damian in captivity. I know she is a villain, but the way they established her character in this universe, she seemed far more of a three-dimensional character and actually wanted to change the League of Assassins for the better to make it something good, but in this movie, it seems like they just threw that all away.
I think their reasons for it and the easiest way to explain her complete 180 in terms of character is the Lazirous pit. Talia didn't just get injured in The Son Of Batman, she straight up died and while bringing someone back that on the verge of death chips away at them slowly, completely bringing someone back from the dead can have way more disastrous consequences. So, her being brought back from death basically sent her mad. The pit didn't necessarily bring back Talia, it resurrected her body but it gave life to a completely different person
The animated movies obliterate the live-action movies because they're made by teams that are passionate about these stories and characters. Meanwhile, WB keeps hiring alleged visionaries that can't help but try to reinvent the wheel.
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer was a movie
Full watch order of left DCAMU:
Justice League Dark
Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay
The death of Superman
Constantine: City of demons
Reign of the Supermen
Batman: Hush
Wonder Woman: Bloodlines
Justice League Dark: Apokolips war
Constantine: The House of Mystery
Full watch order of Tomorrowverse which is continuation:
Superman: Man of Tomorrow
DC Showcase: Adam Strange
Justice Society: World War II
DC Showcase: Kamandi: The Last Boy on Earth!
DC Showcase: Blue Beetle
Batman: The Long Halloween - Part One
Batman: The Long Halloween - Part Two
Green Lantern: Beware My Power
Legion of Super-Heroes
Justice League: Warworld
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part One
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Two
Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths - Part Three
You missed like 4 movies
@@liladonn5646I didn't included first few movies they watched
Great list but don't forget other great DC animated movies like Superman Vs The Elite, Green Lantern: First Flight (2009), Green Lantern: Emerald Knight (2011), Wonder Woman (2009) etc...
@@milkiassamuel780Yes they are great but not part of DCAMU
You deserve an reward for your hard work. Unfortunately it would go against TH-cam guidelines regulation if I said it lol
I’m so bummed this set of movies never had Cassandra Cain, they would love her
Best Batgirl never shows up anywhere, sadly.
@@armaggedon390ur telling me, next to scarecrow her and him are so underused for being the best Batman characters next to Bruce and dick, u know
@@armaggedon390 We've got Young Justice season 4 and basically nothing else. Girl's been in the family for over 20 years, give us *something!*
A live action version of this would cost a shitload of money.
Animation lets them do things that would either be too expensive or just not possible in live action.
Honestly, I call bull on that. You could very well do this movie in live action. The characters don't even have any powers, it's just regular people beating the crap out of each other. The only things that would need a high budget would be Batwing and the watchtower falling; both of which could still be done cheaper with partial practical effects.
Green Lantern? Sure, I can understand that. But Batman doesn't need crazy stuff. The real reason is that the big wigs just don't give a shit. They're not gonna hire writers and directors who made "kid stuff" (read: animation). The animated movies have more freedom, yes, but not just because of budget reasons, as they tend to have lower budget than the live action movies in the first place, but rather because the people with money don't take them seriously so they don't have as much scrutiny.
@@armaggedon390 ...Look at the effects in recent DC films and tell me again it can be done.
@@TimedRevolver Fine, we can cut Luke out of the movie (even though he looks cool).
@@armaggedon390 At this point I wouldn't trust DC to properly animate a billboard in a film, let alone a falling, flying structure.
It's gonna look like PS2 era jank ass.
The Abraham Lincoln jokes made this movie funnier than I remember it being. Thanks for the great content!
Alfred is the only one excempted from batman's no guns and no kill rule.
and before becoming a butler for the waynes he once served in the british army and was also a former britsh agent.
(At 12:25) He just got back from Afghanistan to see his father, and he gets caught up in the middle of THIS? And he was too good against the first two, but then gets overpowered by The Heretic. What really had me worried was when he said, "Get us into the Vault… or your _son_ becomes a memory". Glad HE'S part of the Bat Family, eventually.
(At 10:05) obviously, it was on the phone with Starfire.
Ok so I think the Nightwing story they're missing is because it's from the teen Titans movie
Fun fact: Alfred is voiced by the same guy who voiced Avatar Roku.
Love how Eric was just accidentially correct by jokingly calling that guy the Mad Hatter 😂
Comic wise Dick was the one who officially made Damian Robin while he was Batman. He was Batman for a good bit too- had a great run
Starfire wildin in this universe
I was so hoping the ending was gonna be five different heroes ganging up on some crook like Kite Man, that would be hilarious
Kori Being starfire isn't a spoiler because she was constantly called that in the Justice League vs Teen Titans movie y'all watched.
36:06 Alfred got hands🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
When people say don’t F with Batman’s Butler they’re not wanting you because of Batman.
The thing about Batman is that Bruce is the mask. After his parents death he becomes a shell of himself until he eventually takes up the mantle of Batman. He is practically only Batman in the beginning and has to learn the usefulness of and how to be Bruce. So him sitting alone in his cowl isn’t that surprising
7:33 He meant that in more ways than one 😂
(At 10:47) My question is: How do you recover after you, your mother, and your twin sister, kidnapped, tortured then, taken hostage, and then your mother and sister got murdered… on your birthday?
Funny enough, they tried to give us this in live action with the CW shows, which included the first live action portrayals of Batwoman and Luke Fox (Batwing) but because of budget and studio/character limitations, they never reached the level of the animated films or shows, who aren't anywhere near as limited because the studios don't feel like an animated film released to Home Video can hold a candle to a live action movie released in theaters. The issue with creating a live action film continuity like what Marvel has done with theirs has always been the individual film limitations, actor paychecks and contracts and conflicting views from the studio and the filmmakers. Marvel got lucky in the early years with how everything turned out, though we are seeing the signs of the Marvel Franchise struggling under its own weight. Personally I feel that DC can and should focus more on its animated films and give them the budgets they deserve. They might actually outperform Marvel in theaters... if they ever became brave enough to make theatrical releases of them.
The MCU worked because it didn't start out trying to be a connected universe. They made independent movies that could stand on their own and just threw Nick Fury in as a cameo hoping that maybe, possibly, some day it would amount to something. When DC tried it, they built it universe first, and then tried to jam the movies into a pre-made shape. Thus, the movies were not individually good enough. They also tried to rush to the Justice League as fast as possible, meaning they had to introduce multiple new characters while also bringing everyone together. With Avengers, all the major characters, outside of Hawkeye, had already been introduced in prior movies, so they could spend more of the runtime on the movie's actual plot instead of character introductions. DC wanted what Marvel had but didn't have the patience to earn it.
15:14 that’s mad hatter he also appears in Gotham with a incredible performance
They know lol he looks like Abraham Lincoln way too much to not make fun of it
12:50 HA... Well, Bruce doesn't have a *twin* brother, but he does have a brother in a different universe -- Thomas Wayne Jr.
isnt that proven false
@@shrekisheck2856 No.
I know you guys are reacting to the DCAMU, but it would be fun to see you react to 'The Killing Joke'.
I think by the time they're done with DCAMU they'll be hooked enough to definitely want more and go for standalones.
Im so glad you watched this playlist is in order! Im gonna watch it in order! This is so fun seeing that other people watched these movies.
Cuz baby now we got…I forget the rest
Man I love watching these guys, feels like watching the movies again with friends. Just two things tho: 1) I kinda hate you cause’ you can just binge ALL OF THEM while I waited YEARS for each of these movies since flash point. And 2) Am I the only one who’s morbidly waiting for them to reach Apokolips? if you know you know
The flyer that got crushed by debris was Killer Moth. You guys met him in Teen Titans as the father of Kitten and creator of Silky.
"Why don't they just make live action version of this??"
Thank. Fucking. You. I'm tired of all live action Batman movies being another fucking origin story remix. They just never seem capable of moving past the early phase of Batman's career. We barely get a Robin (and when we did it was terrible), let alone a string of them, which is a sin because, despite the live action movies insistence, Batman is NOT a loner. Dude's a dad. He's a team leader. He ain't open and sociable, but he has the biggest "family" of all the big DC heroes. Bruce's complicated relationships with his Robins/children are core to his character, and each of them were vital it shaping and reshaping him throughout the years, yet we never get to see this on the big screen.
(At 15:17) You think "The Mad Hatter" looks like Abraham Lincoln because of his sideburns and top hat? Just hit me He KNOWS who Batman is, now.
Once you realize that Batwoman's VA is Australian, it becomes hard not to notice the fake American accent.
the only thing missing from this movie, red hood, red robin, spoiler, orphan and maybe even bluebird
(and signal)
(At 23:45) This is what EVERYONE'S been asking for, for a long time… A "Black" Batman.
So, Talia's lackeys include Electrocutioner, Tusk, Firefly, Killer Moth, Hellhound (The guy with the red mask and karate skills), Mad Hatter, Onyx, and Calculator (The guy with the cybernetic eye).
There are plenty of other movies not connected to the DC Animated Universe that you're watching. I wholeheartedly request Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths, Justice League: The New Frontier, Batman: Assault on Arkham, and Justice League: Gods and Monsters. Thank you.
Oh, and Kori is short for Koriand'r. Starfire's real name.
Unlike Batman’s no killing rule, Alfred in his own words “abides by no such niceties”.
As far as I know, reminds of Bruce`s childhood trauma is able to break almost any from of mind control
Deadpool's Dead Presidents is a pretty fun comic to read if you want somebody to fight historical figures.
Try and keep in mind that it’s usually Marvel who leaves extra clips at the end of their movies, not DC.
A little comic fun fact about Batwoman is that much the same as Batman and Robin, a female pair eventually appeared in the forms of Kathy Kane's Batwoman and Bette Kane's Bat-Girl. Bette is the original before Barbara Gordon was created. You might notice that Kathy evolved into Kate. An additional fun fact is that Alfred, at the time period, fully believed that Bruce and Kathy would get married and have a son together who would become the Robin to Dick Grayson's Batman. The really creepy thing is that much like the later Kate Kane, Kathy and Bette are Bruce's cousins as Martha Wayne's maiden name is Kane.
General question to actual comic readers, as Slade's wife's maiden name is also Kane, does that make Slade's kids related to Batman? Or is that like a completely different family that just so happens to have the same last name?
Them losing it to the amount of bat family members makes me laugh. They will never know Jason, Tim, Steph and Cass. Its always bugged me that this universe has batwoman and batwing but not Red hood, red robin, Spoiler and orphan
I really like reading about the bat familly even more than just Batman in big part because I love how they clash with Bruce. He can be a massive dick and at times they can humble him. Which brings back those moments that highlight why they are called a familly rather than just a team.
Nightwing being the one who snaps his father out of it is always nice to see you. That is his first son. Damian may be his blood related son, but Nightwing is his first son.
Fun fact: mad hatter isn't really a villian yet his name is Jervis tetch and he was just trying to stay alive even though through all versions he is villainous he is still the most tame of the villians as he doesn't really do evil he is just a human rejected by a girl named Alice which his why he goes by mad hatter, and his look was inspired by the times during Abraham Lincoln so you're not off the mark entirely
Fun fact, Batwomen is the strogest and perfect batman because she said the suit if perfection when it fits a woman
She's a real herro
Nuns with guns you say? Sounds like it's time to watch Black Lagoon
i love how badass batman is in the intro. hes fighting them so effortlessly
The VA for Talia is Deadpool girlfriend in the Deadpool trilogy. Honestly DC should make her the live action Talia fr
Every bat needs a homie squad.
Warner Bros had a mostly finished live-actiin Batwoman movie with Brendan Frasier as Firefly. It was going to be a more street-level superhero film. But with leadership switch and the rebooted live action universe, it got aborted despite being quite far along.
Crazy fact Abe was called honest Abe because he would stay out of domestic violence in couples.
Nuns, guns, and puns was gold.
Oh and we don’t get any live action versions of the bat family bcuz most the directors and producers they hire don’t read comics that’s why James Gunn is planning on changing that n bringing the spot light to lesser known characters n groups in dc since he’s the head now
Imagine the headlines on that, "Billionaire Bruce Wayne Kidnaps Summit Guests"
23:52 Batwing is the name of batman’s plane. Not to be confused with the batjet lol
"Perhaps you relied on my masters vow against lethal force. Let me assure you that I subscribe to no such niceties" - Alfred Pennyworth, while reloading a shotgun
Erik: "so there's 5 Bat people other than Batman?"
Me who watched the Wayne Family Adventures: "There's a lot more than 5 lol"
24:45 "What're you doing? That was the most sleep I've had in literal years!"
"He's gotta be in the other movies, you don’t give us batwing and then take this away." Oh they took it away, they took him away, they took everyone and everything away and spat on them like they were filthy dog water, then asked us to praise them for it. There is no end to my contempt for apocolyps war, it didnt even have the decency to be a good movie when it shit in my eyes
The only ones missing from this family are Jason Todd Red Hood, Tim Drake Red Robin, Ace the Bathound. There’s also Cassandra Cain who also took the names Batgirl and Orphan Stephenie Brown who was also Batgirl but better known as Spoiler. Lastly there’s Duke Thomas as The Signal but he was relatively new.
Some people think the reason we don't get this stuff in live action is budget, but I call bull on that. You could very well do this movie in live action. The characters don't even have any powers, it's just regular people beating the crap out of each other. The only things that would need a high budget would be Batwing and the watchtower falling; both of which could still be done cheaper with partial practical effects.
Green Lantern? Sure, I can understand that. But Batman doesn't need crazy stuff. The real reason is that the big wigs just don't give a shit. They're not gonna hire writers and directors who made "kid stuff" (read: animation). The animated movies have more freedom, yes, but not just because of budget reasons, as they tend to have lower budget than the live action movies in the first place, but rather because the people with money don't take them seriously so they don't have as much scrutiny.
Justice League Infinite Crisis on two earths
Glad to join you guys on your journey of DC appreciation.
Some other movies that you should check out that are DC but not official DCAMU but the larger DC Universe Original Movies. These are stand alone stories.
_ Green Lantern: First Flight (2009) - Green Lantern origin story
- Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010) - Great mystery story involving Joker
- All-Star Superman (2011) - What would superman do with his last days alive?
- Green Lantern: Emerald Knights (2011) - A bunch of shorter stories about different Green Lanterns
- Superman vs The Elite (2012) - This hits at the core of who superman is
- Justice League: Gods and Monsters (2015) - What if Justice League were supernatural monsters?
Alfred doesn't play! He's fully prepared to kill people.
Batwoman was fighting like "I'm his first cousin lady!"
Yeah, this movie shows that Talia is a zealot to her father's cause to a self-destructive degree. Not even truly caring for Damian in the end.
She is the same in some comics. In the comics she even gets Damian killed but keeps fighting Bruce.
(At 23:15) What kind of church did you ladies come from, anyway?!
As much as i think talia is an interesting character, we desperately need way more of nyssa on screen in these types of movies.
VOICE OF THIS PARTICULAR ALFRED IS AVATAR ROKU!!!
I’m sure plenty have said this but to a certain extent I don’t think they can make live action versions of this, not at budget. Not to mention the logistics of stunts and sets and fighting coreo, it’s why, in my opinion, live action ( at least for super hero’s ) will almost always fall short to animation. Animation lets you do the impossible
Friendly Reminder that Alfred DOEZ NOT share Batman's no killing code and was a member of MI6 if I remember correctly
People may be in seemingly random alleys, but that might be just at a club backdoor or some other hangout spot.
Batwoman is Batman’s cousin
36:27 “It’s the theatre all over again.” Aaaaand that was the joke that sent me. They managed to make it a running gag without knowing anything in advance 😆 😂
Dick and Damien as Batman & Robin is one of My favorite runs of comics.
For the Avatar fans here, Alfred's VA also did Avatar Roku.
You should try Batman beyond
i think we can all agree that NO ONE expected him to turn the gun on himself there.
So, in comics, if i had to guess off the top of my head there is about 13 members of the batfamily. If you guys want something that explores most of them check out Wayne Family Adventures. Its a slice of life webtoon thats really good
Well there's Orphan, Spoiler, Red Robin, The Signal, and Red Hood in the family too
A recurring joke in the batman fandom is that the batfam is so big because Bruce keeps adopting/recruiting people or some people get into the family and, to be fair, it is pretty big
not exactly a part of DCAMU but you guys will enjoy ''DC League of Super-Pets (2022)''. it's hilarious.
I'm sure you guys get this all the time but YOUNG JUSTICE YOUNG JUSTICE YOUNG JUSTICE. You will loooove it
Hey you guys I’d like to recommend a show called My Adventures with Superman. There’s only 2 seasons right now totaling 20 episodes so you can get it done quick.
Does anyone know the one song when Dick Grayson reveals his identity to Batwoman?