ALL THAT GO FUND ME MONEY BETTER NOT EVEN GO TO ANY FAMILY MEMBER!! Give it directly to a clean up crew and YOU purchase a new trailer 4 them!!!! No money should ever be given to them again 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The guy who can only bark really loves you you can tell I think you help save him and made his life better. Thank you for doing that. You’re a very kind man and a very smart. The world is lucky to have you.
What I’ve learned from the Whittakers is that you can’t help everyone, you can try, you can do your best, but sometimes it’s just a bandaid on a bullet wound.
My opinion, Betty holds that hole shit show together. She appears to have lost weight and not looking too healthy. Although some may not agree with their lifestyle I do have family like this and understand. Mark I'm glad you have introduced these people into our lives. Unfortunately though Betty's not looking so well and without Betty the rest will fall apart. It already appears the meth heads have the stronghold in this situation.
@@AlternativeHomesteadingThat is exactly what 99% of dogs will do. Keeping chicken water clean is next to impossible. It's clean when you fill it up new then soon it will be dirty.
Mark tried to help because he genuinely thought they deserved it. They don't deserve it at all. So many have tried to help them and they just play them for a fool and milk them for however much money they can get. Then when they put the foot down like Mark did, they play the victim and ask how they could possibly be so manipulative because they're so dumb, when in reality they're master manipulators and smarter than they let on.
Ray "talks". Why did he point to the burned down house then his house? He knows who did it. He's telling! Look at when they're outside BJ is mentioned. Ray walks over to the trailer and looks on in disgust. Then walks his house and shuts the door. BJ is staying with her Dad.
Being from the area, the first thought is meth lab, the second thought someone doped up dropped a cigarette, third is electrical fire. I have zero doubt some of them know exactly what happened. Ray, Lorain and Timmy would be better off in a GOOD group home. Sad but true.
@@meganblock7616your forgetting about pissed off dope dealer that BJ and her boyfriend probably owe money to. They both seemed guilty af when they walked in. I think whatever happened it was BJ and her boyfriend and I believe the rest of the family when they say they don't know what happened.
😢 Wow, right as the cold is settling in for the winter too; that’s tragic for the family. I hope Ray can get some relief from the pain in his knee. The Whittaker family is in my thoughts and my heart goes out to them with love. Thank you Mark for continuing to support and also working with this family to create a better life for all of them. The Soft White Underbelly is a timeless treasure.
Ray will always be my favorite but Betty KNOWS what happened. She's literally the smartest person in that family and she always acts like she has no clue what's goin on.
She probably suspects but can't prove it, so she just says i don't know. My mammaw is a lot like her. She'll say i don't know and then go on to tell you everything she's heard from everyone in the community, lol.
@@daveo7669I thought the same thing I’ve never heard her make a sound but it seemed like she understood what he said and she was trying to tell him something about her arm too .
Ray loves to see you, and he's always trying to tell you what's going on. I do believe Ray or Loraine would be completely honest and tell on the others..
Mark is a better person than I would've been in this situation..He is a very forgiving person and very generous and ppl take advantage of that at times.
All the good Mark dose for them and no thanks. No matter what you do for them I don't think it will change. It would be if some of them could go into a care home. Mark has done enough. And no change personally I wouldn't give any more money.
I love how far Lorraine has come. She loves Mark and trust Mark, as does Timmy and Ray. I love how happy they are to see Mark when he comes to see them.
@@Ynneprehs it's an odd situation because Mark's whole channel was built on people using him for money, while he uses them for good content. The Whittakers have just become master manipulators now to milk as much as they can.
I was raised in a similar environment. Pure poverty, filth, and lack of basic necessities. I vowed to myself, my wife and my kids that they will never endure this. We still visit my family who still lives like this so they know both sides of the spectrum.
😢 That was plenty to get them in a better living situation and people in their lives to help them ongoing- and now they're penniless again. Smh. They were never capable of just managing their own money. And now with this parasite (BJ) and whomever else around sucking what little they have out of them, they don't stand a chance. I SERIOUSLY BELIEVE they are in danger! Mark, not to say you intentionally placed them in this predicament, but this is where they are now. Being targeted and exploited for money. The best thing you can do for them now is get Adult Protection involved. Help Timmy, Lorraine and Ray out of that mess. Please and Thank You @SoftWhiteUnderbelly
Right?? Insane. And I don't think ive ever even heard a thankyou... and the ones that are aware, and CAN speak, just act pissed off that he's there and act like he HAS to give them money etc.. sad. They really should be BEYOND grateful.
After BJ got her grubby hands on it and never again I wish she would goooo to NC but they probably don't want her bumming around she needs to grow up she about to be 50 before long BJ if you see this get a job stop using your dad & Betty you & your mooching boyfriend 🤮🤬🤮🤬
I wonder how many people realize just how much Mark does for other people out of the kindness of his heart? Its incredible that he has any time left for himself. He is an incredible human being.
@@OG-GHOST2It used to be the norm, also, that people from the surrounding area would take care of their own neighbors in need. With how well known the Whittakers are now and with however many people that always crop up saying they wish they could help, they could band together and have all of that burned up rubbish heap cleared away in one weekend. They wouldn't need thousands of dollars from a man who lives clear across the country.
He Said he lost his hearing device and wallet in the fire ha ha ha ha ha (now how the only tool for comunicating normaly or their normaly is another thing,, surly what s mess)
@@jaylenfaulks5693 they all old and in need to care i wish Ray AND Timmy and his mom Had a proper care they Are voiceless in a Way !!!!but speak trough mimics and Drawing and sounds !!!
I immediately thought one of two things happened. Someone passed out with a lit cigarette or it was torched for insurance money or pity money via Mark and go fund me. Probably the latter. Find it hard to see any of them keeping up with any kind of pay schedule.
@@jpmnky I doubt very seriously if they had insurance. They probably used wood / coal stoves. We have a fair bit of fires due to them, since most aren't install safely
I’m just glad to see Larry has fully recovered from being dead. (BJ called Mark wanting money, claiming her father Larry had died. Not being the brightest bulb, she was busted when Mark showed up to pay his respects- so she tried to hide out in the very trailer that burned down. Mark calling her a “sneaky one” is the understatement of the century.) Also, someone take poor Ray to a doctor already! (Edited to add- because he’s curled up quietly in the corner like a sick dog- which is very unlike his usual demeanor. It’s supposedly because of his knees, and he seems to be in significant pain. But with him being non-verbal, who knows what else could be going on with him? Though I suppose it would be useless getting him any kind of pain relief- it’d be stolen within five minutes of walking in the door.)
This makes me so sad for Larry, just hearing him talk about his wife’s pictures broke my heart. That man has lived his whole life with next to nothing and he still finds those (small possessions to some) are the most important to him. More in this world need that mentality. 💔
That's the most I ever heard Lorraine communicate. She's obviously very comfortable and happy around you Mark. It was nice to see them, and I'm very sorry about the fire. I also hate seeing Ray in pain. I've got arthritis and my knee(s) hurt in the chilly, damp weather, so I know how he feels. Poor guy.
I am not a stalker. I just wanna send you a hug. I’ve had double knee replacement so I know how you feel when the bad weather sits in. I was 44 when I got my first knee replacement 47 when I got my second. I am now 55 and it still hurts. Hugs to you.
She’s the smarter of the family. She knows what she’s doing. They collect Social Security disability all of them or they collect SSI Social Security income. She knows what she’s doing Daddy gives in.
Betty acts sneaky to me. Always standing and listening and acts like she is so innocent. Ray is so tired looking, bless his heart. Wish he could live out his days in a clean environment.
Betty? I think BJ and her boyfriend do. Either they owe someone money OR it was done on purpose knowing mark will help dish out money. The only innocent in that house hold is Ray, Timmy & Lorraine.
Thank you for checking on them. I was wondering how they were doing. Feeling so sorry for Larry, he is obviously so drained from dealing with all His siblings troubles and his kids misbehaving 😳 He has aged a decade in a few months 😞
Probably goes to him anyway. He knows very well they belong in a home. But he refuses to get them the help they ACTUALLY need. No fun or profit to be made if they end up in a home.
@@681sg Why make this personal y ou stupid fuck? He does this to make money. They belong in a home. There they would have professionals who make sure they don't burn down their damn homes!
It isn't "one eye". That is the nose. The two eyes are near the hairline. The big smile is what he sees when he looks at Mark's face. He looked at Mark a few times when he started to draw it. It is a picture of Mark.
Couldn't an intermediary social worker or such intervene to save their lives? Who is able to reliably oversee the distribution of funds that well meaning people donate?
@@sophiemorrison9820the system doesn’t give a fuck about these people. The system doesn’t even give a fuck about the little kids and babies being abused in foster care, dcfs, cps ect they don’t care.
The family is not shady, but scared. Notice when BJ & boyfriend show up everyone clams up. BJ should be investigated for elder abuse. And, my bet would be some meth cooking going on at that trailer
Almost definite elder abuse. One of his videos last year you could tell Elder abuse holy crap for sure. I think a bunch of people should start calling the county and reporting her for elder abuse. The county won’t do nothing because sadly well look how they live their family they’re not gonna say anything against her.
I agree I’ve always said this. The first video it was only the immedient family then once they started getting donations suddently more and more family start appearing in videos.
When BJ & the bf arrived the whole atmosphere in that house changed, at 32:40 Timmy went into the bedroom like he was getting out of the way which seems strange as Timmy loves being at the centre of what’s going on. Also at 39:00 watch Kenneth silently looking towards Mark like he was asking for help but afraid to verbalise it. I really think they are bullying that family. Larry looks defeated, they took over his trailer burnt it to the ground & now it looks like they took his truck from him too as the bf said he’s sleeping in it. Is there no one in that area to help this family out & get rid of BJ & her bf?
This is an inbred family. That’s what caused all of this. Their mothers, their sister and aunt their brothers their father it’s it’s sick. It’s disgusting. It’s disturbing. When he first started, they did discuss who is who and what it’s it’s it’s sad. And you’re right, Timmy Ray and Lorraine are the ones that suffer the most out of thisand the animals and personally I think the animals actually get more love than Timmy Ray and Lorraine. And that’s not saying much.
The interaction between Betty and BJ in the kitchen about the wallet is very telling....it seems BJ has no respect the way she talks to Betty like that. 🤬
Am I the only one that thinks they have to many dogs? And my Lord that poor chicken 😢. I wish Timmy and Ray and Lorraine had a different home. My heart goes out to them. And Something smells about the fire. Thank you Mark for always being there and you can tell they love you.
@@KarlaKayM STILL using, she never quit. Looked like she was hurting for a fix too. I’m glad Mark said out loud that she’s still asking him for $ all the time.
Mark I must say, I have a deep appreciation have you take the time to address them each while saying your goodbyes. You have a good way of making people feel seen and individualized.
30:22 Awww Timmy is so sweet. That's not a self-portrait, Mark. Timmy was drawing you. He looked at you at the beginning a few times then started drawing. There were 2 eyes! Protect Timmy omg we love him 😭. And Larry, always being a straight shooter and in high spirits.
@I figured you meant Kenneth. I wish he would block BJ. Knowing BJ she would call from other phones and emails. So sad how drugs ruin things for so many.
Oh you friggin city softies you think that's the worst thing that happens to a chicken? I was saying the whole situation was funny because nobody said anything
Something really shady about that guy in the grey shirt. Anyone else notice how quiet the house got when he walked in? Sad to think he may be causing physical and mental abuse to the Whittakers. Someone should look into that guy. Somethings not right.
I also beleive they r scared of BJ and her boy friend.probably shake and bake meth start fire.Mark really should check on boyfriend bet he comes eats their food Mark can check his legal status. He may burn them all up if they refuse to give him what he wants.
Timmy is just adorable. Lorraine is so sweet. Ray is such a character. All three such innocent and honest souls who wear their warm hearts on their sleeves. Bless them and the dogs ♥️
@@Hotrodford They cannot act this out. Their family tree breaks it down. A set of twins with identical DNA had kids. This happened twice and with first cousins. This family is the product of that. They cannot act or fake what genetics did to them. This is why some of them function better than the others. I'm not being rude but I'm into genealogy, and there is a family tree that was put together and it all made sense to me after that. Took me about an hour to get my husband to understand what happened to them😂. Been following the Whittakers since day one. Timmy went to high school and graduated , but I've always felt he understands things and he's stuck in his mind without the ability to properly express himself except with his paper and pen.
I was born and raised in Appalachia, probably no more than an hours drive from the Whitaker's. Although we're certainly not all like the Whitaker's,theirs alot of families that are very similar to the Whitaker's. I appreciate Mark's interest in the region...it really is the most beautiful countryside in all the world and the folks who inhabit it are a very special breed,and while I've known many families like the Whitaker's,most of us are normal people,nothing like what you've seen here, although we do deal with poverty on a scale not witnessed in the rest of the nation. God bless Appalachia!
Live here in WV too. For many years worked as an RN in In-Home Services. Came across many like the Whittikers although not so severely affected. Sadly, we can't change or save everyone, and our values don't always match theirs. Sounds simple but really says it all and we have rh accept that. We can try but some folks are going to live in ways we don't always understand.
I agree, Loraine was so happy (in spite of the circumstances) SO happy to see and communicate with him! Blessings on this family & Mark for shining light on those that may not have one… 🙏🏼
@@Lisa-py4vq it was "administered" by Mark ... he said they would call him all the time and request money and since it had been donated for them, he didn't feel right to refuse them money.
I'm a little confused as to why they need so much "help" in the first place. They have to be drawing disability for Timmy, Ray, and Lorraine at the very least. Larry should have Social Security each month. Not sure if Betty can draw anything or not, but they should have a minimum of $2000 a month. A minimum. And if there is disability, there should also be EBT help for food. They heat with wood, so there's no heating costs. I don't know, but I would guess they're on a well since they're out in the country so far. They don't need "new", they need a conservator to help use their money wisely.
The go fund me was in Marks name and he paid for home improvements and gave them money as they needed it. You can watch previous videos when he tells them when they weren't using the money correctly. He cut back on when giving.
You’re a good man Mark. I thought you were all done with the Whittaker’s. I actually feel worse for the animals than I do for the Whittaker’s. They’re innocent victims to the madness there.
Get some of that money and give it to those nice extreme cleaners here on TH-cam I bet they can do a great job in the main house and make more room as well. There’s a lot of dead space behind that couch where Loraine and Betty sit, it’s just full of nonsense
I love how Mark talks to them as equals and not looking down on them as most would. Sadly any money raised will go to their family showing up and pressuring them. Maybe pay contractors directly
Mark needs to NOT offer Go Fund Me money for helping to clean up mess or for a new trailer. I think he’s crazy to think he can actually help all the people he claims to help. What he is doing is enabling. Just because someone is ‘nice’ doesn’t make someone a good person. This very much is a sad story for many reasons. But Mark should not be enabling financially. Sorry, not sorry, but I can not even imagine the stink on them and in their house.
That's very sad they deserve at least a hand up after a fire .no one is being forced to donate ...I'm sure the money won't go to them but for them ...... prayers sent 🙏
Agree. They have no ability to better their situations if they are neglected. I wonder if they are getting meals. Thank you Mark for shining a light on these harsh realities.
@ It’s very upsetting to see. He can’t even tell anyone about his pain or how severe it is, all he can do is moan, grunt and point. It’s just so heartbreaking I can’t stand it. I wish I could do something to help him directly. He’s sitting there suffering and that’s so sad.
Seeing Ray gripping his knee laying by the heater with the children’s toy by him, that made me wanna rip my heart out. I hate it. This is so sad. I know they all want to stay together and it is what it is but it’s so sad.
@@nallyg5371 He probably is prescribed pain meds but having addicts around would mean Ray never gets his meds!! They are most likely stolen from Him. Sad
I don’t feel that Betty is a crabby apple to Mark I think it’s just her means of communication. Betty has been a sweetheart but she’s also been bullied so much by BJ and I bet you anything She’s afraid of BJ!
Just the way BJ stood at door whispering. Then went to the backroom with boyfriend to get story straight. She let boyfriend do all the talking for a reason. I see right through their games. I wouldn't give any of them anymore money. Only give them what they need no cash.
Mark if we know the money is going in your pocket to fix this mess then I'm sure more will donate. If it's going to any of the Whittakkers...forget it!
This all really touches my heart . My father was from Olive Hill Kentucky and my mother from Virginia. Times are so hard and things from there have been gone a lot since the loss of coal mining.My grandfather,uncle’s and cousins all were miners and four of my family died in a mine that collapsed.These are my people and I am proud of my heritage. I know the devastation of a fire. I lost my own home to a fire 8 yrs ago and lost everything I had.People have no idea the loss. It’s undescribable and overwhelming.Mark you are a Wonderful Man with a Beautiful soul. Your a Angel to many when they see you. God has blessed you with such gifts of Photography and video work and continues to bless you for all you do for others. My father was a Holy man and spent his entire life helping others. I wish so much more for these people . I wish they could move away all from their in a home more into town and closer for their needs.Everyone pray 🙏🏻 for them and I pray that God will help and touch this family. My mother is 90 and I live and take care of her. It’s really hard and every day is a challenge but I am blessed. Stay Wonderful Mark and never change we need You in our World 💖🌟✨✨✨
I care for my parents too Dad 89 mom 85 and I'm very blessed to still have them but caregiving is very hard when you need care for your own self... God bless you and I hope you and your mama have a blessed day. I will be praying that the Whittaker's situations improve🙏💔💯🎯
I see so many comments about the condition of their home, the lack of care of the ones in the family who need special attention, and the fact that the money they received perversely from the Go Fund Me is gone, but the reality is, this family is not the only family that lives like this, especially in West Virginia. The state is overrun with drugs and poverty, and it’s overrun with younger people using their older relatives as a place to “flop”, to not work and use any little funds that they have coming in (SSI, food stamps, or whatever it is) to fuel the continuation of their drug problem. It is very, very sad.
Mark I want to just take a second and thank you for everything you’ve done for the Whitaker family and continue to do. You’re an amazing human being. I truly look up to you. Thank you 💙
Bless them. I came from roots of folks like these sweet people. My grandmother raised me and my two cousins on her social security and some government cheese and whatever people gave us to eat. I want from being homeless and paid my own way through college working at little Ceasars. Most of my family is gone now but every time I see folks like this my heart goes out to them.
Same. Family from the mountains of Appalachia. Dirt poor. Never knew when the depression started or ended. Most are gone but nothing changed for us. I went to business school and got admin jobs. Never rich but had enough. Lived with friends, homeless and cheap apts and run down homes. 'Merica!! 😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
Very fortunate to have the sense it takes to get an education. I'm not sure if any of the Whittakers have so much as a trade. Half of them are basically non verbal.
Mark, have you entertained the idea of going into rural North Carolina to interview and assist the victims of Helene? We need more of a spot light on these Americans whose lives have been ravaged by Helene. We have families who have lost everything living in tents. I would also be concerned about people like them who seem to be fast forgotten.
I'm lucky to of met these wonderful people when the wife and I visited Odd WV last winter. Just driving by- what are the odds of Kenneth inviting us in the house to meet Larry, Betty, Lorraine, Timmy and Ray. The most surreal humble 20 minutes of my life.
I drove by a few months back, but didn't see anyone outside and didn't want to linger or impose. Came all the way from New Hamoshire, it was definitely surreal. I didn't expect their house to be so far back into the backroads
WTF they aren't a roadside attraction people. @softwhiteunderbelly please protect these people's privacy from the general public who think it's acceptable to gawk.
Nobody understands just how rough it is for these poor mentally people. People slamming them but until they walk in their shoes, they should not be throwing stones.
I want to add Lorraine pointed to the inside of her elbow trying to tell you they are shooting up dope in their arms. She has seen them doing it I can guarantee you that. BJ should be in jail for doing drugs around them. They are vulnerable adults and childlike.
@@JennAmazed well he’s not saying he’s Godly lol he’s human like all of us. He’s entitled to an opinion but he is capable of acknowledging Mark’s behavior(it is).
Jesus Christ what is wrong with some of you people? God forbide this lady makes a positive comment on this video without people coming to comment thier negative classiest opinion under it. Go start your own thread with that hateful mentality.
Mark you said it!! Only family that could all live in tight quarters and not killl each other!! They may be disabled but they or more then able in love and support for one another!❤
This is why your documentaries are so powerful, I clicked so fast just because I’ve developed a sense of concern for this people and I don’t want to see them suffering when they already have so much to deal with
Larry seems to have aged quite a bit since last time we saw him. I feel so sorry for him losing everything and all his wife’s photos he is very emotional. God Bless You All the Whitaker’s xxx
Your right but dealing with BJ you would age to BJ called Mark wanted money please don't give her a penny she needs locked up for elderly abuse it look at the way she gets and Betty's face 😢😢
Not the update I was expecting from the Whittakers, but trying to see the positive in this. Lorraine’s communication has improved so much and Ray is always so happy to see Mark! God Bless this family, amidst all the chaos and confusion. And Mark, THANK YOU for all that you do for this family!
These guys are beyond help tbh, and they are smarter than they let on. If You have watched all the videos on the Whittakers, You will know they take the hand out of Mark! Bottom line lesson for everyone is...... DON'T make babies with members of your own family circle! AMEN!
If Ray could talk, boy you can tell he'd be spilling all the beans. That man is always nearby, always listening. He knows everything!!
He is. We just can't understand him.
He is. We just can't understand him.
he doesnt even know how to wipe mustard off of his face lol
I guarantee you
@@bossyspaghetti Thankfully Ray doesn't need to talk. All he needs to do is point to his knee and whimper. Just like he's been told to do.
Timmy is always so excited to see Mark. It’s heartbreaking to see the conditions he lives in, yet he still has so much joy.
He doesn't know anything different, anything better. None of the siblings do.
@@ScorpioSun213 Absolutely 👍🏼
I know he’s such sweet soul and he doesn’t know how else to live and he loves Mark .
@@ScorpioSun213 do you wonder if he’s actually finding the words on those word searches or is he just circling random letters 🤔
U can’t miss what I have never had. They grew up living like that that’s all he knows.
ALL THAT GO FUND ME MONEY BETTER NOT EVEN GO TO ANY FAMILY MEMBER!! Give it directly to a clean up crew and YOU purchase a new trailer 4 them!!!! No money should ever be given to them again 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
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Why What happened to the previous money??
No PJ, her boyfriend and the adult boys need to get their asses out there and clean it up.
Why not ? I don't know the story. What happened when he gave them money ?
Here, here!
The guy who can only bark really loves you you can tell I think you help save him and made his life better. Thank you for doing that. You’re a very kind man and a very smart. The world is lucky to have you.
Here here!! Very well said 👏🏼 xx
Mark is asking all the right questions. He feels like they aren’t telling the truth about the fire.
Of course they are NOT
All he has to do is go ask the fire marshal in that county and they will tell him
@@WvG1rl HA! I just wrote the very same thing.
Gas cans all over the place where the fire was ??? Looks real complicated.
Betty sounds mad when she is lying
What I’ve learned from the Whittakers is that you can’t help everyone, you can try, you can do your best, but sometimes it’s just a bandaid on a bullet wound.
That dog would have eaten that hen. The hens water was filthy and those dogs out of control.
My opinion, Betty holds that hole shit show together. She appears to have lost weight and not looking too healthy. Although some may not agree with their lifestyle I do have family like this and understand. Mark I'm glad you have introduced these people into our lives. Unfortunately though Betty's not looking so well and without Betty the rest will fall apart. It already appears the meth heads have the stronghold in this situation.
They're disgusting in bread and nasty
@@AlternativeHomesteadingThat is exactly what 99% of dogs will do. Keeping chicken water clean is next to impossible. It's clean when you fill it up new then soon it will be dirty.
Mark tried to help because he genuinely thought they deserved it. They don't deserve it at all. So many have tried to help them and they just play them for a fool and milk them for however much money they can get. Then when they put the foot down like Mark did, they play the victim and ask how they could possibly be so manipulative because they're so dumb, when in reality they're master manipulators and smarter than they let on.
If Ray could talk, he'd tell on them all. His pointing says a lot already.
So true!!!
Couldn't agree more
Yes I believe that too
Ray "talks". Why did he point to the burned down house then his house? He knows who did it. He's telling! Look at when they're outside BJ is mentioned. Ray walks over to the trailer and looks on in disgust. Then walks his house and shuts the door. BJ is staying with her Dad.
I just said that!
I'm impressed. I made it almost 11 minutes into the video before Larry basically asked Mark for more money.
He could learn from DSP’s begging tactics to up his game
Larry should never get anything. He started coming around once he knew Mark was helping the other ones.
It's their money. He manages it so they don't mess it up.
What papers was he hiding?
Crazy take to think the Whittakers are exploiting Mark.
Being from the area, the first thought is meth lab, the second thought someone doped up dropped a cigarette, third is electrical fire. I have zero doubt some of them know exactly what happened. Ray, Lorain and Timmy would be better off in a GOOD group home. Sad but true.
They are not smart enough for a meth lab 😅😅
From
This area as well
And exact same
Thoughts sadly
@@meganblock7616your forgetting about pissed off dope dealer that BJ and her boyfriend probably owe money to. They both seemed guilty af when they walked in. I think whatever happened it was BJ and her boyfriend and I believe the rest of the family when they say they don't know what happened.
They need special care as they deserve
My bf manu meth. be fore.. seems very similar imo
That's the most I've ever heard Lorraine speak. God Bless Mark for being so kind and understanding.
Yes.
Lorraine is my favorite. She is trying to tell Mark about the bs her family does..
And Exploitative as always Schadenfuede
Looked likeoraine was saying something related to IV DRUG USE.
I think she’s trying to tell Mark for sure
It's that daughter, 100%. If she would lie about her dad dying to scam funeral money, I wouldn't put anything past her.
Yeah she is the worst. Steals and lies to her own family.
Right
Absolutely 💯 Probably owes the drug dealer 😳
I definitely don't trust the daughter
I believe so 💯 I don't trust BJ or her so called man them 2 needs to get jobs
😢 Wow, right as the cold is settling in for the winter too; that’s tragic for the family. I hope Ray can get some relief from the pain in his knee. The Whittaker family is in my thoughts and my heart goes out to them with love. Thank you Mark for continuing to support and also working with this family to create a better life for all of them. The Soft White Underbelly is a timeless treasure.
It's sad
Ray will always be my favorite but Betty KNOWS what happened. She's literally the smartest person in that family and she always acts like she has no clue what's goin on.
Yes, he’s my favorite too. Betty definitely puts on an act when things go down.
It’s like a tick for her to say “I don’t know.” I can’t stand it anymore.
she thinks common people are as stupid as they are
She probably suspects but can't prove it, so she just says i don't know. My mammaw is a lot like her. She'll say i don't know and then go on to tell you everything she's heard from everyone in the community, lol.
She does that because she can’t do anything about it, those mongrels do what they want, Betty is embarrassed by it! It’s always BJ or her kids!
Mark you complimenting Lorraine was so sweet.
@@LukesWorld-2024 so kind. 👊
It sure was
That was the most lucid and responsive I've ever seen her as well. Very nice to see.
@@daveo7669I thought the same thing I’ve never heard her make a sound but it seemed like she understood what he said and she was trying to tell him something about her arm too .
She is definitely my favorite 😍
There is something shady about this fire. Sounds like the daughter and her drug use is really hurting this entire family.
She was supposed to move to North Carolina. Why did she lie to Mark and say she was leaving?
Meth is a terrible drug
Thier silence is defining
She was Shake and bake cooking
Yes and shes the main one lying and using that family, I be dang if id buy her anything back...hes not there for her just main 5 in that house...
Ray loves to see you, and he's always trying to tell you what's going on. I do believe Ray or Loraine would be completely honest and tell on the others..
Mark is a better person than I would've been in this situation..He is a very forgiving person and very generous and ppl take advantage of that at times.
All the good Mark dose for them and no thanks. No matter what you do for them I don't think it will change. It would be if some of them could go into a care home. Mark has done enough. And no change personally I wouldn't give any more money.
I’m not so sure that’s true, she cost him more than the money she got her hands on to blow on drugs, in his defense, how could you see that coming.
@@mrp1924 anybody could of seen this crap show happening.
To them kindness = weakness
He sure was trying to put those papers away fast🤔. I wonder what it is?
You know the saying “if walls could talk” … “ if RAY could talk” would be appropriate in this situation
We Alllll hate hate meth head queen and methdemon BJ
I would pay to hear his stories, as being nonverbal, he sure has lots to say
I would pay to hear rays stories. For being non-verbal, he has a ton to say
If Ray, Timmy or Lorraine could talk
More like- "If the Hills Have Eyes..."
I love how far Lorraine has come. She loves Mark and trust Mark, as does Timmy and Ray. I love how happy they are to see Mark when he comes to see them.
Prob the only 3 not using him n yt for money
@@Ynneprehs it's an odd situation because Mark's whole channel was built on people using him for money, while he uses them for good content. The Whittakers have just become master manipulators now to milk as much as they can.
How far she's come?, she's still the same vegetable. I couldn't think of a worse existence.
I learned a lot about myself from Ray. First impressions don’t last and you really can’t judge a book by its cover, Ray has a heart of gold.
The lack of eye contact from BJ and her man says alot.
It sure does!!!!!!!!!!
They prob were cooking meth and blew that bitch up
Depends which eye you're looking at...
BJ’s meth pipe, poor choices, and parasitic nature is destroying that family. Larry needs to take a “Restraining Order” out against her.
@@theStickyWicketthat's not nice 😅
I was raised in a similar environment. Pure poverty, filth, and lack of basic necessities. I vowed to myself, my wife and my kids that they will never endure this. We still visit my family who still lives like this so they know both sides of the spectrum.
@@bluecollarusa5396 Same. But I'm a woman and wasn't able to escape. No money, surrounded by rapists. "Good old boy preachers, etc." 😂🤣🤣🦬💩👺👹👺👺👺👺
It’s good you got out of that environment and gave your wife and kids a better life than what you had - well done 😊
You can be poor and not live in filth. Can’t imagine how it smells there
@@jimbrookfield9011I was thinking the same exact thing…
@@jimbrookfield9011 My mom always said being poor is one thing but no excuse to not be clean if you have access to water and soap .
You gotta love Timmy!!!! He lives in his own happy world! What a sweet pure soul 😊❤
Timmy isn't a sweet soul. He is very abusive to the dogs. Really gross.
I remember him at the state fair! He LOVED it!
Are you confusing Timmy & Ray?
Truly
@@shannon_w. No I don't!! Watch how abusive he is to the animals! He makes me sick 🤢
Theyve already spent 150k from donations and now he has the nerve to ask for more. Hell no.
😢 That was plenty to get them in a better living situation and people in their lives to help them ongoing- and now they're penniless again. Smh. They were never capable of just managing their own money. And now with this parasite (BJ) and whomever else around sucking what little they have out of them, they don't stand a chance. I SERIOUSLY BELIEVE they are in danger! Mark, not to say you intentionally placed them in this predicament, but this is where they are now. Being targeted and exploited for money. The best thing you can do for them now is get Adult Protection involved. Help Timmy, Lorraine and Ray out of that mess. Please and Thank You @SoftWhiteUnderbelly
THAT'S COLD .
what a waste
Right?? Insane. And I don't think ive ever even heard a thankyou... and the ones that are aware, and CAN speak, just act pissed off that he's there and act like he HAS to give them money etc.. sad. They really should be BEYOND grateful.
After BJ got her grubby hands on it and never again I wish she would goooo to NC but they probably don't want her bumming around she needs to grow up she about to be 50 before long BJ if you see this get a job stop using your dad & Betty you & your mooching boyfriend 🤮🤬🤮🤬
I'm completely shocked.......
That this hasn't happened sooner.
Electrical fire?
It’s not too soon is it lol
Ditto
Sad but true they need a home attendant
Right
it did - the house that previously stood there also burnt down
Timmy is such a loveable person. He has that childlike innocence about him
That is because he has the mindset of a 3 year old child maybe!
So does Ray ❤
Called retarded
I love that he signed the pictures with his name and age like a kid, ”Timmy Whittaker 45”. He is adorable.
And if he didn't you wouldn't like him. 😂😂😂😂
I wonder how many people realize just how much Mark does for other people out of the kindness of his heart? Its incredible that he has any time left for himself. He is an incredible human being.
That use to be the norm back when we lived in a civilized country
@@OG-GHOST2It used to be the norm, also, that people from the surrounding area would take care of their own neighbors in need. With how well known the Whittakers are now and with however many people that always crop up saying they wish they could help, they could band together and have all of that burned up rubbish heap cleared away in one weekend. They wouldn't need thousands of dollars from a man who lives clear across the country.
He's a martyr! All in the name of funding drugs and alcohol for addicts and future addicts.
It takes MONEY to make money and the whitakers and that Rebecca make lots of money for Mark.
@im_agine852 Mark will never let his money makers go. Till death do they part
That's the most I've ever heard Loraine talk. I think she was very happy to see Mark.
Somehow I knew when mark asked Betty what happened she would say “I don’t know”
That’s what she ALWAYS says
OMG.. I just heard her say, " I don't know" exactly how she says it ( in my mind ) after I read your comment 🤣
@@FunkaliciousFeline deny, deny, deny.. "I don't know" 🤷😂
@@Kimberly_11lol. They’re very seasoned liars I think.
Same
I normally have no problem understanding Larry, but he is incomprehensible in this video.
He Said he lost his hearing device and wallet in the fire ha ha ha ha ha (now how the only tool for comunicating normaly or their normaly is another thing,, surly what s mess)
They got that tv up real loud too
I wondered if it's the lack of contact from the outside world.
They're all harder to understand
@@Weirtoe I would say that's a big part of it. My opinion, some of them need like a real caretaker or something.
@@jaylenfaulks5693 they all old and in need to care i wish Ray AND Timmy and his mom Had a proper care they Are voiceless in a Way !!!!but speak trough mimics and Drawing and sounds !!!
This was diabolical. Someone did it on purpose. Thank you Mark for keeping us updated and still close to this family from a distance.
I immediately thought one of two things happened. Someone passed out with a lit cigarette or it was torched for insurance money or pity money via Mark and go fund me. Probably the latter. Find it hard to see any of them keeping up with any kind of pay schedule.
Larry and his daughter are liars and scammers and Betty goes along with their lies!
Someone left a torch burning or decided they would burn it if they didn’t pay a debt or something? Just guessing?
@@jpmnky I doubt very seriously if they had insurance. They probably used wood / coal stoves. We have a fair bit of fires due to them, since most aren't install safely
@@charlii5917 where is the fireplace or chimney? They would be there....and in the video you hear him say they use propane.
"Death of Larry Whittaker" video, at 21:43, Larry says BJ threatened to burn down the house before...
Bingo
This is just a reminder of how blessed a lot of us are. Mark's a good man he will help them out again. Bless you, Mark. You're an angel.
🙏🙏💯💯
Yes, but for the grace of God, there go I.
Mark should not help them out they need to be in a home and not live like animals
In what way-all the money he’s raised was wasted.
@@kathybrem880 I am sure Mark would rather help than do nothing at all. Giving is better than receiving in my book
I'm envious of Timmy!
Just a man with a pad and pen, and not a care in the world...
True artistic gentleman!
Agree, Tim is awesome. Always happy
Exactly.....I've always thought the same
And always happy
He had 2 eyes way up high & the 1 was the nose 😊
Some say he’s the Rembrandt of Appalachia
I’m just glad to see Larry has fully recovered from being dead.
(BJ called Mark wanting money, claiming her father Larry had died. Not being the brightest bulb, she was busted when Mark showed up to pay his respects- so she tried to hide out in the very trailer that burned down. Mark calling her a “sneaky one” is the understatement of the century.)
Also, someone take poor Ray to a doctor already!
(Edited to add- because he’s curled up quietly in the corner like a sick dog- which is very unlike his usual demeanor. It’s supposedly because of his knees, and he seems to be in significant pain. But with him being non-verbal, who knows what else could be going on with him? Though I suppose it would be useless getting him any kind of pain relief- it’d be stolen within five minutes of walking in the door.)
RAY’s KNEES NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION AAAP. HIS KNEES WONT GET BETTER IN THIS COLD ROLLED UP IN A BALL.
@@ArseMoriendi yeah it was a close call!!
@@ArseMoriendi 😂😂
Mark forgave, we all remember, time to move on.
to a doctor for what? He'll probably out live the whole bunch of em.
This makes me so sad for Larry, just hearing him talk about his wife’s pictures broke my heart. That man has lived his whole life with next to nothing and he still finds those (small possessions to some) are the most important to him. More in this world need that mentality. 💔
BJ is involved and betty knows what's going on .none of them wanna snitch on eachother
How do you know? You people are a bunch of judgemental bullies. You're not a detective or a judge, lol.
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I think bj did it to get more money from Mark. Betty always playing dumb
was just thinking the same thing! There is definitely some motives to why that trailer is burned (allegedly).
I think that Betty is afraid of BJ. BJ probably threatens her.
That's the most I ever heard Lorraine communicate. She's obviously very comfortable and happy around you Mark. It was nice to see them, and I'm very sorry about the fire. I also hate seeing Ray in pain. I've got arthritis and my knee(s) hurt in the chilly, damp weather, so I know how he feels. Poor guy.
I am not a stalker. I just wanna send you a hug. I’ve had double knee replacement so I know how you feel when the bad weather sits in. I was 44 when I got my first knee replacement 47 when I got my second. I am now 55 and it still hurts. Hugs to you.
Ray Whittaker was drinking again heavily
Praying for Ray❤
@barbararose753 he needs to stop drinking heavy
Buy Ray some thick long underwear to keep his aching legs from hurting so bad and sports cream rub to ease his pain!!!
Bj needs to move away from them! She has brought this family down so much!
Well, there is the money, so she will not go anywhere.....
She’s the smarter of the family. She knows what she’s doing. They collect Social Security disability all of them or they collect SSI Social Security income. She knows what she’s doing Daddy gives in.
That'll never happen, sadly.
@@claudiaforstner6533EXACTLY 💯
@@jadeswrapsandbraidsBJ and her boyfriend need to be in jail! They are drug addicted liars and theives!
Mark should bring a camper and stay the weekend sometime. I bet he'd see a lot of things off camera.
It’s nice you still keep in touch regardless of what they did your a good man
they didnt do anything, BJ did
I LOVE HOW YOU SAID THAT 🫶🏼
It’s called forgiveness and like mrjingle comment says it was BJ
You can't blame anyone for a few bad apples, thanks..
It's called views. These people are worth a few videos a year, and I am here for it.
Betty acts sneaky to me. Always standing and listening and acts like she is so innocent. Ray is so tired looking, bless his heart. Wish he could live out his days in a clean environment.
Same. And poor Timmy and Lorene deserve better. But who am I to judge?
Betty? I think BJ and her boyfriend do. Either they owe someone money OR it was done on purpose knowing mark will help dish out money. The only innocent in that house hold is Ray, Timmy & Lorraine.
@@jackib8589BJ is the one that was talking them outta the money Mark gave them and was usin it for drugs and that’s why he cut them off
I really don't think Betty knows what's going on most of the time. I don't think sneaky. She is just not all there.
No. Betty bought them that camper. Betty does everything for them. She put her life on hold to raise her siblings.
Thank you for checking on them. I was wondering how they were doing.
Feeling so sorry for Larry, he is obviously so drained from dealing with all
His siblings troubles and his kids misbehaving 😳
He has aged a decade in a few months 😞
I was also wondering how they were doing. Have to agree with you on Larry.
My Thoughts Aswell
He seemed exhausted and heartbroken. I’m so sad that he lost all of the photos of his wife. That definitely affected him.
People worrying more about the animals need to take a look at them. They’re well fed and happy.
None of these people asked to be born.
@mariesimmons7748 my Animal Is My Sevice K9 And Very Important!! It's My Child.
OH NO! THE POOR WHITTAKER'S!! 🙏 Thank God that none of them was hurt. . poor pups.. so sorry for this family..My heart breaks for them
I wouldn't start a go-fund-me until I had a report from the fire chief. This whole adventure is so bizarre!
Probably goes to him anyway. He knows very well they belong in a home. But he refuses to get them the help they ACTUALLY need. No fun or profit to be made if they end up in a home.
@@davidsmock8235 100% chance he’s done more for them (or anyone, for that matter) than YOU have. You probably don’t even support yourself.
@@681sg Why make this personal y ou stupid fuck? He does this to make money. They belong in a home. There they would have professionals who make sure they don't burn down their damn homes!
@@davidsmock8235 We found the dumbass in the comments section
Damn right just before Christmas and they were all " cooking"😅 more like $ train was done
It isn't "one eye". That is the nose. The two eyes are near the hairline. The big smile is what he sees when he looks at Mark's face. He looked at Mark a few times when he started to draw it. It is a picture of Mark.
Yeah lmao I noticed that as well
I noticed the long legs..
Yep
Timmy need him some read along children books and a book on learning to draw. I believe he would just love it.
those kind of books would be good for Timmy and encourage him more. they would be worth their weight in gold to him.
I was just thinking the same thing. He always is smiling, happy, and receptive.
@@gldnsunrising7761 bj is a piece of fecal matter! rehab for that gal.
Love this idea! ❤
So he can writem everything on paper what really happend
BJ walking in acting like she's lost a wallet hoping Mark will offer money 😂
LOL right ?? Exactly what I thought.
exactly. I read your comment exactly as it played out on video.
You are a good man Mark. Whatever money is donated for the clean up hope it all goes to that & not directly to the family!
Couldn't an intermediary social worker or such intervene to save their lives? Who is able to reliably oversee the distribution of funds that well meaning people donate?
@@sophiemorrison9820the system doesn’t give a fuck about these people. The system doesn’t even give a fuck about the little kids and babies being abused in foster care, dcfs, cps ect they don’t care.
Mark, please, you pay directly from go fund me. Not a penny to Larry he can't say no to BJ.
@@judygillespie3242do not give them nothing none of them they need to be taken to a home they can not live like this in inhumane
The family is not shady, but scared. Notice when BJ & boyfriend show up everyone clams up. BJ should be investigated for elder abuse.
And, my bet would be some meth cooking going on at that trailer
Almost definite elder abuse. One of his videos last year you could tell Elder abuse holy crap for sure. I think a bunch of people should start calling the county and reporting her for elder abuse. The county won’t do nothing because sadly well look how they live their family they’re not gonna say anything against her.
Yes I thought looks like an explosion
I just commented about cooking meth before I saw your comment. It’s the 1st thing I thought of. What a shame. 😢
Yes someone blew the meth lab ... Could be the true reason.
I immediately thought method also. That dude prolly illegal immigrant.
Outsider looking in. They didn't start having problems tell BJ came around.
I agree I’ve always said this. The first video it was only the immedient family then once they started getting donations suddently more and more family start appearing in videos.
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Looks like they’ve had problems for generations.
I agree
@@kristinb4535😂😂 you wild
Lorraine saying “come on in” to Mark is my fav.
When BJ & the bf arrived the whole atmosphere in that house changed, at 32:40 Timmy went into the bedroom like he was getting out of the way which seems strange as Timmy loves being at the centre of what’s going on. Also at 39:00 watch Kenneth silently looking towards Mark like he was asking for help but afraid to verbalise it. I really think they are bullying that family. Larry looks defeated, they took over his trailer burnt it to the ground & now it looks like they took his truck from him too as the bf said he’s sleeping in it. Is there no one in that area to help this family out & get rid of BJ & her bf?
I love ❤ Ray! He's trying to tell what happened!
THIS comment here needs to be pinned!!
Nah they are all on fentanyl around there
My mom’s trailer burnt down because of electrical issues. It’s not un common.
THANK YOU. If the innocent souls could speak, this would be a much different story. I’m from WV and this situation is all too common here.
I feel for Timmy, Ray, Lorene and all those animals. They are innocent in whatever shenanigans caused this tragedy 😔
This is an inbred family. That’s what caused all of this. Their mothers, their sister and aunt their brothers their father it’s it’s sick. It’s disgusting. It’s disturbing. When he first started, they did discuss who is who and what it’s it’s it’s sad. And you’re right, Timmy Ray and Lorraine are the ones that suffer the most out of thisand the animals and personally I think the animals actually get more love than Timmy Ray and Lorraine. And that’s not saying much.
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Exactly! 👍💯💯💯😰
What's going to happen to them and the animals if Betty is unable or not around to care for them anymore? I hope someone is keeping tabs on them.
It's just a fire, happens millions of times a year. Accidents are what it means. Space heater you name it.
The interaction between Betty and BJ in the kitchen about the wallet is very telling....it seems BJ has no respect the way she talks to Betty like that. 🤬
Most addicts don’t have respect.
And she knew it was being recorded.
Yup I'd never ever speak to an Aunt/elder like that
BJ is a drug addicted pathological liar and thief! She needs to be in jail!
I completely agree with you 💯
Am I the only one that thinks they have to many dogs? And my Lord that poor chicken 😢. I wish Timmy and Ray and Lorraine had a different home. My heart goes out to them. And Something smells about the fire. Thank you Mark for always being there and you can tell they love you.
Bj comes in and doesn't even acknowledge Mark's presence....hmmmm....🤔
silent guilt
Sneaky AF, must be using again
Isn’t BJ the one who faked her father’s death?
@@KarlaKayM
STILL using, she never quit. Looked like she was hurting for a fix too. I’m glad Mark said out loud that she’s still asking him for $ all the time.
@@ArseMoriendi yep
Mark I must say, I have a deep appreciation have you take the time to address them each while saying your goodbyes. You have a good way of making people feel seen and individualized.
30:22 Awww Timmy is so sweet. That's not a self-portrait, Mark. Timmy was drawing you. He looked at you at the beginning a few times then started drawing. There were 2 eyes! Protect Timmy omg we love him 😭. And Larry, always being a straight shooter and in high spirits.
No no...not Larry. I mean Kenneth!
@I figured you meant Kenneth. I wish he would block BJ. Knowing BJ she would call from other phones and emails. So sad how drugs ruin things for so many.
You are right. What they are calling one eye is actually the nose and you can see two eyes above. Timmy is a sweetheart ❤
Right. If it was a self-portrait it wouldn't have had hair on top, lol.
@@DaniJo2320 agreed
The dog getting in the chicken coop was hilarious nobody said a word the whole time
Tim's reaction as well
I wouldn't say hilarious, it was a shame for the chicken
Wasn't funny
Oh you friggin city softies you think that's the worst thing that happens to a chicken? I was saying the whole situation was funny because nobody said anything
Something really shady about that guy in the grey shirt. Anyone else notice how quiet the house got when he walked in? Sad to think he may be causing physical and mental abuse to the Whittakers. Someone should look into that guy. Somethings not right.
I also beleive they r scared of BJ and her boy friend.probably shake and bake meth start fire.Mark really should check on boyfriend bet he comes eats their food Mark can check his legal status. He may burn them all up if they refuse to give him what he wants.
I did
I never could bring myself to trust that liar bj
ICE. Will get him.
Can’t look into someone who’s UNDOCUMENTED
Timmy is just adorable. Lorraine is so sweet. Ray is such a character. All three such innocent and honest souls who wear their warm hearts on their sleeves. Bless them and the dogs ♥️
“Innocent and honest souls” now I’ve heard everything!
I think it’s all an act for money and sympathy. I bet they’ve got more money than any of us here.
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I don’t trust Lorraine…
@@Hotrodford They cannot act this out. Their family tree breaks it down. A set of twins with identical DNA had kids. This happened twice and with first cousins. This family is the product of that. They cannot act or fake what genetics did to them. This is why some of them function better than the others. I'm not being rude but I'm into genealogy, and there is a family tree that was put together and it all made sense to me after that. Took me about an hour to get my husband to understand what happened to them😂. Been following the Whittakers since day one. Timmy went to high school and graduated , but I've always felt he understands things and he's stuck in his mind without the ability to properly express himself except with his paper and pen.
@6:23 Loraine is trying to tell you "They are all on that dope over there, that's what happened."
😂😂
Yep🤣🤣🤣
100%
Yep she’s seen them doing it or she wouldn’t have pointed to her arm like that!
Yeah I believe that she pointed on the arm where most people jab the needle.
Betty always acts so clueless she knows more than she lets of
Betty’s favorite response: “huh?!” 😂
It gives her time to think of a lie
Omg yes
Betty is hearing impaired fv(king christ you people are unbelievable.
Or “I don’t know “.
People say "huh?" while they try to fabricate a response (lie/misdirect).
I was born and raised in Appalachia, probably no more than an hours drive from the Whitaker's. Although we're certainly not all like the Whitaker's,theirs alot of families that are very similar to the Whitaker's. I appreciate Mark's interest in the region...it really is the most beautiful countryside in all the world and the folks who inhabit it are a very special breed,and while I've known many families like the Whitaker's,most of us are normal people,nothing like what you've seen here, although we do deal with poverty on a scale not witnessed in the rest of the nation. God bless Appalachia!
seems to be very boring out there
Yep, theyre certainly a breed alright
Live here in WV too. For many years worked as an RN in In-Home Services. Came across many like the Whittikers although not so severely affected. Sadly, we can't change or save everyone, and our values don't always match theirs. Sounds simple but really says it all and we have rh accept that. We can try but some folks are going to live in ways we don't always understand.
Lorraine just loves Mark, so good to see her all prettied up and talking so much.
I agree, Loraine was so happy (in spite of the circumstances) SO happy to see and communicate with him! Blessings on this family & Mark for shining light on those that may not have one… 🙏🏼
Larry said his shoe box of money got burnt up. Really, his daughter and boyfriend took it and then started the fire to cover it up.
I donated twice for the family and a house, BJ ended up getting most of it, and never again will I trust that mode of help.
My opinion I don't think the go fund me should be in their name Put it in marks name and allow them so much a month
Me too!
@@Lisa-py4vq it was "administered" by Mark ... he said they would call him all the time and request money and since it had been donated for them, he didn't feel right to refuse them money.
I'm a little confused as to why they need so much "help" in the first place. They have to be drawing disability for Timmy, Ray, and Lorraine at the very least. Larry should have Social Security each month. Not sure if Betty can draw anything or not, but they should have a minimum of $2000 a month. A minimum. And if there is disability, there should also be EBT help for food. They heat with wood, so there's no heating costs. I don't know, but I would guess they're on a well since they're out in the country so far. They don't need "new", they need a conservator to help use their money wisely.
The go fund me was in Marks name and he paid for home improvements and gave them money as they needed it. You can watch previous videos when he tells them when they weren't using the money correctly. He cut back on when giving.
Timmy’s sweet. He even said, “ mark” he admires you.
His reaction when he saw Mark was sweet 😊
when?
love hearing Loraine talk so much now. I swear she said pretty when Mark said it
@ I swear she said, hi baby, you want me? And then pointed to her arm after mumbling something
You’re a good man Mark. I thought you were all done with the Whittaker’s. I actually feel worse for the animals than I do for the Whittaker’s. They’re innocent victims to the madness there.
They get more on public assistance than most make working a job
That's such bullshit@@mikem9892
No the donators Mark-et It's The donators
Just like that poor chicken. Even the chickens are in filth!!
@@lisareimund1157They’re chickens..
Im dying to know what paper Larry stashed. Looked like a toddler hiding candy they weren't supposed to have when Mark walked in. 😂
I saw that also , was shaking like a leaf when hiding it. Him and b.j whispering when she came in about that wallet. Sumthin goin on there.
BJ's drug addict son Brandon threatened to burn Betty's house down if she didn't give him cash when he wanted it in a previous video.
Oh yesss that's right!!!
damn fr? which video is that?
They should put him in jail and keep him there and get that daughter and bf in rehab
They are just a lost of skin and $$$
And there you have it
That’s why ( they don’t know nothing) yeah right
Get some of that money and give it to those nice extreme cleaners here on TH-cam
I bet they can do a great job in the main house and make more room as well. There’s a lot of dead space behind that couch where Loraine and Betty sit, it’s just full of nonsense
Merry Christmas Mark. I do appreciate all you do. Wrap your arms around yourself, I'm giving you a hug right now. We all need one, now and then.
I understand that feeling, thank you and a kind hug back to you ❤x
I love how Mark talks to them as equals and not looking down on them as most would. Sadly any money raised will go to their family showing up and pressuring them. Maybe pay contractors directly
Mark needs to NOT offer Go Fund Me money for helping to clean up mess or for a new trailer. I think he’s crazy to think he can actually help all the people he claims to help. What he is doing is enabling. Just because someone is ‘nice’ doesn’t make someone a good person.
This very much is a sad story for many reasons. But Mark should not be enabling financially.
Sorry, not sorry, but I can not even imagine the stink on them and in their house.
You are MEAN and IGNORANT@@keepingitreal-thatsright
That's very sad they deserve at least a hand up after a fire .no one is being forced to donate ...I'm sure the money won't go to them but for them ...... prayers sent 🙏
A very special bond that this family has. So many smiles.
Poor Ray. My heart breaks when I see him in so much pain. Ray and Timmy are my absolute favorites in the family❤️
I noticed fingers on one of his hands are turned in at the knuckles , arthritis no doubt . Very painful
Agree. They have no ability to better their situations if they are neglected. I wonder if they are getting meals. Thank you Mark for shining a light on these harsh realities.
@ It’s very upsetting to see. He can’t even tell anyone about his pain or how severe it is, all he can do is moan, grunt and point. It’s just so heartbreaking I can’t stand it. I wish I could do something to help him directly. He’s sitting there suffering and that’s so sad.
@@firstnamekaty8830 totally agree he needs help it's gut wrenching to see
They are so adorable..😊😢
Seeing Ray gripping his knee laying by the heater with the children’s toy by him, that made me wanna rip my heart out. I hate it. This is so sad. I know they all want to stay together and it is what it is but it’s so sad.
Sad part is he probably just need some pain medication
@@nallyg5371 He probably is prescribed pain meds but having addicts around would mean Ray never gets his meds!! They are most likely stolen from Him. Sad
He obviously gets Medicare I wish they would just step in and get him knee replacement. But then there's no one to help him recovering
BJ would steal them within 3 minutes
Betty always is so mean to Mark. And Mark has been an Angel to their family. Ray, Lorraine and Timmy are the only ones I truly love.
I don't think she's mean, that's just the way she talks
Betty is not mean, it's just her demeanor. She just has enough awareness about her that she is probably perpetually exhausted.
That's the true test of humanity. To love the "unlovable"......❤
I don’t feel that Betty is a crabby apple to Mark I think it’s just her means of communication. Betty has been a sweetheart but she’s also been bullied so much by BJ and I bet you anything She’s afraid of BJ!
@@Nana2KCASBOBetty does act like she wants to say something but is afraid too.
Just the way BJ stood at door whispering. Then went to the backroom with boyfriend to get story straight. She let boyfriend do all the talking for a reason. I see right through their games. I wouldn't give any of them anymore money. Only give them what they need no cash.
Mark if we know the money is going in your pocket to fix this mess then I'm sure more will donate. If it's going to any of the Whittakkers...forget it!
100% speak to the fire 🔥 department Mark
What fire department? There is probably is a volunteer fire department. I live in WV. There is very little infrastructure.
They're not going to have anything to say. No suspected criminal activity as far as they're concerned. So, no fire marshall investigation.
Please don’t take people off the internets accusation… I think it was the propane
@@Gemmaxmommie yeh prob something in or around the trailer. I doubt it was a deliberate thing.
@@Gemmaxmommie People LIKE TO JUDGE AND THINK THE WORST, IT'S SAD.
This all really touches my heart . My father was from Olive Hill Kentucky and my mother from Virginia. Times are so hard and things from there have been gone a lot since the loss of coal mining.My grandfather,uncle’s and cousins all were miners and four of my family died in a mine that collapsed.These are my people and I am proud of my heritage. I know the devastation of a fire. I lost my own home to a fire 8 yrs ago and lost everything I had.People have no idea the loss. It’s undescribable and overwhelming.Mark you are a Wonderful Man with a Beautiful soul. Your a Angel to many when they see you. God has blessed you with such gifts of Photography and video work and continues to bless you for all you do for others. My father was a Holy man and spent his entire life helping others. I wish so much more for these people . I wish they could move away all from their in a home more into town and closer for their needs.Everyone pray 🙏🏻 for them and I pray that God will help and touch this family. My mother is 90 and I live and take care of her. It’s really hard and every day is a challenge but I am blessed. Stay Wonderful Mark and never change we need You in our World 💖🌟✨✨✨
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I'm guessing that they own that property. And anywhere they would move to will end up looking the same. They only know filth. So sad.
I care for my parents too Dad 89 mom 85 and I'm very blessed to still have them but caregiving is very hard when you need care for your own self... God bless you and I hope you and your mama have a blessed day. I will be praying that the Whittaker's situations improve🙏💔💯🎯
Hello ma'am , I'm also from Olive Hill , what was ur dad's name ?
I see so many comments about the condition of their home, the lack of care of the ones in the family who need special attention, and the fact that the money they received perversely from the Go Fund Me is gone, but the reality is, this family is not the only family that lives like this, especially in West Virginia. The state is overrun with drugs and poverty, and it’s overrun with younger people using their older relatives as a place to “flop”, to not work and use any little funds that they have coming in (SSI, food stamps, or whatever it is) to fuel the continuation of their drug problem. It is very, very sad.
150k hahahahahahahh
Mark I want to just take a second and thank you for everything you’ve done for the Whitaker family and continue to do. You’re an amazing human being. I truly look up to you. Thank you 💙
I think you're gorgeous and you got a big heart
Bless them. I came from roots of folks like these sweet people. My grandmother raised me and my two cousins on her social security and some government cheese and whatever people gave us to eat. I want from being homeless and paid my own way through college working at little Ceasars. Most of my family is gone now but every time I see folks like this my heart goes out to them.
Same. Family from the mountains of Appalachia. Dirt poor. Never knew when the depression started or ended. Most are gone but nothing changed for us. I went to business school and got admin jobs. Never rich but had enough. Lived with friends, homeless and cheap apts and run down homes. 'Merica!! 😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
Congratulations on overcoming such roots.
Very fortunate to have the sense it takes to get an education. I'm not sure if any of the Whittakers have so much as a trade. Half of them are basically non verbal.
Yall some hills have eyes mfs
Mark, have you entertained the idea of going into rural North Carolina to interview and assist the victims of Helene? We need more of a spot light on these Americans whose lives have been ravaged by Helene. We have families who have lost everything living in tents. I would also be concerned about people like them who seem to be fast forgotten.
This is such a good idea. xx
YES!!!! 👏👏👏
Yes please come to WNC!! So much devastation here from HH
Yes!!!!
Yesssssss🎉🎉🎉❤💙🤍🇺🇸
Can’t believe they convinced you to help them again
I thot he said he was done with after the last fiasco of lies?
I'm lucky to of met these wonderful people when the wife and I visited Odd WV last winter. Just driving by- what are the odds of Kenneth inviting us in the house to meet Larry, Betty, Lorraine, Timmy and Ray. The most surreal humble 20 minutes of my life.
I drove by a few months back, but didn't see anyone outside and didn't want to linger or impose. Came all the way from New Hamoshire, it was definitely surreal. I didn't expect their house to be so far back into the backroads
WTF they aren't a roadside attraction people. @softwhiteunderbelly please protect these people's privacy from the general public who think it's acceptable to gawk.
BJ walked right past Mark without acknowledging him. She yelled at her gad and then at Betty and went to the bathroom. She really is a bad apple.
she yelled at her gad eh
She is mad and always calling for money for dope. They can't get social service to help because of family secrets.
Heart-breaking for those dogs who passed away in the fire💔 🐾 😢 🙏
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
they shouldnt be allowed to own animals.
@@DelicatelyDestroyed💯😥
The animals are loved I think, they would be sad if taken away. Such dysfunction here. They just don’t know any better
@@karincampbell9289that's right which means they should not own animals
They should spay and neuter all pets.
Nobody understands just how rough it is for these poor mentally people. People slamming them but until they walk in their shoes, they should not be throwing stones.
I want to add Lorraine pointed to the inside of her elbow trying to tell you they are shooting up dope in their arms. She has seen them doing it I can guarantee you that. BJ should be in jail for doing drugs around them. They are vulnerable adults and childlike.
Or she was telling Mark she recently had a blood test.
Yep!!!
Yeah I think you’re right
That’s exactly what I thought.
She is so nasty
They don't deserve your help anymore. But the grace that you show them is reflective of a Godly spirit. You're a good man.
He's FAR from Godly!
I disagree. He cares about them. He's not God but he has a soft spot for Ray especially.
They don't deserve the help and then you speak of God? Gross
It's not his help. He's making large sums of money off them and using donor money to hand to them knowing they'll use it irresponsibly.
@@JennAmazed well he’s not saying he’s Godly lol he’s human like all of us. He’s entitled to an opinion but he is capable of acknowledging Mark’s behavior(it is).
A home full of disabled adults … praying for the Whitaker’s to stay warm during the cold winter months & have food on their table to eat 🙏🙏
Their
Yes AMEN and blessings to cover them always.
That freezer of theirs is well stocked, dont you worry but whether any of them can cook, i dont know?
I am surprised they don't argue living so close together and such clutter and filth.
Jesus Christ what is wrong with some of you people? God forbide this lady makes a positive comment on this video without people coming to comment thier negative classiest opinion under it. Go start your own thread with that hateful mentality.
Mark you said it!! Only family that could all live in tight quarters and not killl each other!! They may be disabled but they or more then able in love and support for one another!❤
This is why your documentaries are so powerful, I clicked so fast just because I’ve developed a sense of concern for this people and I don’t want to see them suffering when they already have so much to deal with
ALL of us suffer!
You don’t? But you clicked “so fast” to see the suffering. 😂
“This is why you are documentaries are so powerful” nice
Yesssss
@@notreallyafamousartist695are you the language police? Do you know how to fill in context?
Larry seems to have aged quite a bit since last time we saw him. I feel so sorry for him losing everything and all his wife’s photos he is very emotional. God Bless You All the Whitaker’s xxx
Your right but dealing with BJ you would age to BJ called Mark wanted money please don't give her a penny she needs locked up for elderly abuse it look at the way she gets and Betty's face 😢😢
Not the update I was expecting from the Whittakers, but trying to see the positive in this. Lorraine’s communication has improved so much and Ray is always so happy to see Mark! God Bless this family, amidst all the chaos and confusion. And Mark, THANK YOU for all that you do for this family!
Amen
These guys are beyond help tbh, and they are smarter than they let on. If You have watched all the videos on the Whittakers, You will know they take the hand out of Mark! Bottom line lesson for everyone is...... DON'T make babies with members of your own family circle! AMEN!
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a single ‘Thank You’ from any of the family members (Larry, Betty, BJ) who are able to communicate 🙄