Jakl vs BRN180

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    A viewer asked me to compare the PSA JAKL to the Brownells BRN-180. So, we take a look at both, compare them and I decide if I could only have one - which one would it be?
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  • @bonedale
    @bonedale หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    can everyone just stop asking Mac how to get involved in the firearms industry? please

  • @grunt1807
    @grunt1807 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    I'm holding off on buying a Jakl until the kinks are all worked out and it reaches its final Super-Saiyan form, I'm also excited about the 308 version. What brings me to side with the Jakl is the swappable charging handle, the AK-like gas system, and knowing that PSA will continue to upgrade and support the system, unlike my ACR.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      All very valid points!

    • @Arkancide
      @Arkancide หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed, in a year or three when they're done iterating on it, the JAKL will be a fine rifle. But I don't think I'll be purchasing one even then. Replacing perfectly good, functioning and kitted out PSA guns that I own with a JAKL just doesn't make sense. If it was modular enough to run the three calibers I care about(5.56, 300BLK, and 308) off one highly durable chassis that'd be one thing. One lower and two or three uppers would be an interesting thing. But I don't think that's how it works. So unless I have a really tragic boating accident, I'll pass.
      BRN180 is neat, but in the same boat. I suppose this is only an issue for people who dearly want piston guns.

    • @grunt1807
      @grunt1807 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Arkancide The jakl isn't going to replace my kitted BCM or any other of my rifles. It will be just another rifle in my inventory. I just like the AK-like operating system, especially in 308, and future PSA support.

    • @Arkancide
      @Arkancide หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@grunt1807 I see. It may be because I'm a poor, but that thought never crossed my mind... Having an 'inventory' of rifles is beyond my imagination. Well, good on ya, and I hope you enjoy them!

    • @sedevri864
      @sedevri864 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Arkancide Honestly I'm with you on this one......might also be because I'm a poor but who knows. Once the 308 version comes out it would be great to only need two lowers to use and three uppers. Plus, and I know its just wishful thinking, but maybe we could even see PSA come out with a 12 gauge upper for the 308 lower.

  • @gagemason3865
    @gagemason3865 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    The JAKL reminds me of the 1st gen MCX. Heavy and unrefined, with rolling changes being done as it came out. Which eventually turned into the light weight version of the MCX. If I was a betting man, I would wager that we’ll see a “light weight” JAKL come out in the foreseeable future. They just gotta figure out what parts do and don’t need to be overbuilt.

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Nothing on any PSA gun is overbuilt. It's heavy but not overbuilt. It's just sloppy.

    • @erichmiller4812
      @erichmiller4812 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And before Sig did its beta testing on the gen 1 mcx and the verstus, they did the same damn thing with the sig556. Put an A1 profile barrel on it, lost the fish gills and quadrants and you got a lighter, better but less modular gun. And then quit supporting it Ala the mcx, and vertus.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a JAKL I've put some rounds through, and I think the biggest single thing they can shave weight on is the handguard. Idk if the longer railed variants are thinner, but on my 10.5" the handguard is DUMMY thick. I imagine they could shave some weight off of it since it's monolithic, but I'm no engineer lol.
      Would also like to see them move to a different barrel profile and something more standardized with the AR pattern for the barrel fitting, but that might not be possible without an expensive redesign.

    • @TheCamaro5
      @TheCamaro5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      After owning one that is 100 percent false. The monolithic upper and rail and barrel are too thick or over built. If they made the mono lithic upper half the thickness and the rail the same they could shave some weight. But for now its built like a tank. I found that with the right forgrip the weight is not longer an issue.@@armorers_wrench

    • @TheCamaro5
      @TheCamaro5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same observation i got the monolithic upper and rail could be half the thickness they are now.@@DunkThemMuffins

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    I think I’m going to go with the jakl because I like the looks just a bit better. I like pws but PSA for me has been killing it lately and I haven’t had any issues. Can’t wait for the 308 jakl

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      PWS website is completely out of stock.

    • @SimplestUsername
      @SimplestUsername หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@FXIIBeaver Jakl's are restocked about once a week. Just keep checking the stock at 11:30-Noon Eastern Time until the version you want is in stock.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Retro vs acr

    • @johnhenrybottom1992
      @johnhenrybottom1992 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jakl for me.

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johnhenrybottom1992 jakl me off

  • @danielw1284
    @danielw1284 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I’ve picked up a BRN180 and have been very happy with it. I’ve told myself I’ll hold off on a JAKL upper until a pencil-barrel version or updated gen-II version is released - will likely just grab the 13.9 P&W upper and throw it onto one of my spare sat-night-special Anderson lowers.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm sure you already know this, but there's a part or two you need to swap out on your lower if you want to slap the JAKL upper onto an AR lower. I believe it's the ping pong paddle you need to swap, but it's been too long since I did mine lol.

  • @MrBallsOSteel
    @MrBallsOSteel หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    Puppy hearing protection has gotta be the best thing I’ve ever heard of

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      There are some good companies out there offering it. This set is made by Rex Specs.

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@MilitaryarmschannelI wouldn’t complain if we got more footage of your pup.

    • @mghegotagun
      @mghegotagun หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was wondering if such a thing existed for cats and dogs. That's cool.

    • @TsunTzu
      @TsunTzu หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Flat out appreciate seeing that, so many people just obliterating their poor pet's hearing.

    • @lzxray6781
      @lzxray6781 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Mac, you do have a great dog! He doesn't mind wearing ear pro at all! Glad you take good care of him or her!!

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Another great highly informed comparison video. Thank you!

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @strykerentllc
      @strykerentllc หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Militaryarmschannel DAEWOO K2 has entered the chat. What's old is new yet again. Warranted comparison video forthcoming.

  • @kman0146
    @kman0146 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I noticed Brownells is now selling both a folding charging handle and a non-reciprocating charging handle for the BRN-180. Midwest Industries is selling an AR-180 style folding stock that looks similar to the one Brownells used to sell.

  • @Sagittariustoo
    @Sagittariustoo หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I would choose the puppy with the hearing protection. 🙂

  • @knightjd22
    @knightjd22 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I bought the 14.5 jakl and I really have been enjoying it

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I enjoy mine too. It wasn't an easy choice for me.

  • @jaredlostetter265
    @jaredlostetter265 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have the 180 and love it… I will say this , when I first got it the upper and lower, they wouldn’t fit together and both were sent back to pws …got back brand new upper and lower… so they have had issues… once I got them back it has been flawless

  • @gordon5008
    @gordon5008 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The term "at home" is for the short bus and considering the original AR180, ACR and Current Scars were/are made in the USA it's extra short bus.

  • @bevangamewell2283
    @bevangamewell2283 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I built a 300blk pistol using the Brownell's BRN180 upper. Easy, reliable and fun to shoot suppressed or not. (Yes, a little punchy)
    I have been watching PSA for a while now. Saw your visit to their factory. I really like how they think! Saving up for a PSA purchase in the future.
    Refreshing video.

    • @caseyschryber1255
      @caseyschryber1255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too bad the barrel LITERALLY SCREWS OUT. Garbage design

  • @danfoster1935
    @danfoster1935 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Jakl, I support innovation, and PSA is faithful the civilian market.

    • @kazansky22
      @kazansky22 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea I always buy from PSA simply because of their loyalty to us.

  • @PistonDrivenGun
    @PistonDrivenGun หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    BRN 180 is actually made by primary weapon systems. Who also makes a long stroke piston AR. It is fantastic

  • @MattCaliber
    @MattCaliber หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My favorite aspect of the PSA Jackl is that it is similar to the ACR rifle. A highly underrated rifle in my opinion.

  • @Kentucky.Tactical
    @Kentucky.Tactical หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I own both guns. Had the Jakl for a while now and love it. Haven't got to shoot my Brn180 yet, just got the upper today and the lower is off being engraved. Thanks for this video.

  • @ianray8823
    @ianray8823 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Can't stop thinking about puppy hearing protection on different breeds of doggo

  • @MrSumGuns
    @MrSumGuns หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gotta go with BRN 180. It's a proven system. Great video as always thanks!

  • @nathanwatson2072
    @nathanwatson2072 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Haven’t even watched it yet. I love it. I’ve been waiting for this video for the last year and a half.

  • @jaredvos4431
    @jaredvos4431 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love seeing innovation in the industry, and I wish all of these companies coming out with unique designs great success. But they (PSA, CMMG, Sig, Perun, etc.) really need to stop putting charging handles so far forward and so close to the top rail. Robinson Armament figured it out years ago, put the charging handle further back just above the magwell. This way it doesn't interfere with your grip when you go to C-clamp it, and also you don't scrape your knuckles on your optic when you charge it. Minor nit-picking I know, truly I do hope these companies do well and continue to improve on their new and interesting designs. Thanks for another fun video Tim!

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The charging handle on the Jakl is non reciprocal and high enough it won’t bother you.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@FXIIBeaverI have the 10.5 Jakl and if you put a PEQ or other LAM on the top rail, it will definitely impede your access to the charging handle. I really wish they had some sort of extra long folding charging handle that would clear LAMs when unfolded, but the length needed would expose it to carbon from the A2 birdcage.

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DunkThemMuffins and if you run that exact setup on an AR you won’t have anywhere to grip. If you want hand room you bought the wrong upper.

    • @DunkThemMuffins
      @DunkThemMuffins หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FXIIBeaver You do know that the majority of LAMs have the fire button on top right? You just use your thumb to press the button from a C clamp grip if you need the laser. Never had a problem with hand room and a LAM on a standard 10.3 upper.

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a 10.5” 223 WYLDE BRN180 upper on a ADM ambi lower with a Geissele flat trigger, DD grip, triangle folder, Trijicon MRO, Surefire M600DF with Modbutton lite and an ASR 3 prong for the Saker 556 can. Great suppressor host and the smoothest racking rifle I’ve ever felt. Feels like the bolt is on ball bearings

  • @leofightsback6514
    @leofightsback6514 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    I sold my SCAR back to the gun shop & brought a psa jakl. 2 daggers 100 round drum & 250 rounds.

    • @stacksmasher
      @stacksmasher หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well? Do you like it? is it reliable?

    • @Matthew-bc9mr
      @Matthew-bc9mr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and how do the daggers fair when shooting akimbo?

    • @leofightsback6514
      @leofightsback6514 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Matthew-bc9mr what's akimbo

    • @michaelweeks7997
      @michaelweeks7997 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ha because flannel daddy said to?

    • @leofightsback6514
      @leofightsback6514 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelweeks7997 who told you what ?

  • @keyslapper
    @keyslapper หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I just picked up a BRN-180 upper, and I wasn't certain I want to keep it. Now I feel much better about it.
    Of course PSA won't ship to my state, so that's not an option. Yet.
    Thank you!

  • @peterreily1490
    @peterreily1490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another awesome new video. While others flounder and can’t come up with new content… Tim delivers the good stuff.
    BRN-4 over here. Or the URGI upper brownells had a $300 discount on.

  • @petehafner3844
    @petehafner3844 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice review thanks

  • @Spartacus223able
    @Spartacus223able หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Another upper that would be interesting to through in the mix, would be the Foxtrot Mike FM15 gen 2.

  • @zippy45acp53
    @zippy45acp53 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the folding stock ar's. Bought the early release Sig MCX. Just recently picked up a Foxtrot Mike 12.5 pistol complete for $600. Added a folding brace, very lightweight and accurate little gun. Has run 100%.

  • @Sergiosanchez5978
    @Sergiosanchez5978 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a JAKL and love it. I will definitely get the 308 when it comes out.

  • @1coldaxe
    @1coldaxe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pick up a BRN 180 running it now For 2 years, I have no problem with it.Our may i say the only problem was.The stock came loose and I tighten it up with an allen Wrench been running it 2 years now. No problem Flawless no complaint.

  • @ricks.1092
    @ricks.1092 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad some of the issues with the Jakl were already addressed. However, PSA does need to use a different (lighter) profile barrel. Shaving off 8 oz would be great.
    I plan of purchasing a Jakl, just waiting to see if PSA is going to address the weight issue. Something tells me, it will be a while...due to they're going to concentrate their efforts toward the .308 model.

  • @XrayMike17plus1
    @XrayMike17plus1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a couple of BRN-180'S with the BRN-180 'Modern' lowers. These were bought before the Jakl was released. Tried to get an FDE version, but they weren't available at the time. The Jakl is interesting and may wind up in the collection at some point.

  • @MerpSquirrel
    @MerpSquirrel หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I appreciate that they sponsor you and other gun tubers. But Im not a big fan of the private gun schools advertising. Because there are some expert gun smiths like school of the modern rifle, or ex-military armors. But setting an expectation that they need to pay tens of thousands for schooling before they can put their skills into practice in the field seems setting up the same cycle of never ending debt as other industries.

    • @fraudsniffer7280
      @fraudsniffer7280 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      My problem with these online gunsmithing programs is two-fold. First, they largely exist to siphon GI Bill and federal student loan money. I’ll guarantee most of their students are using one of those two payment methods. Second, and more important, gunsmithing is a skilled trade. And like with any skilled trade you REALLY should learn it in-person rather than mostly online. I don’t care what anyone says…learning isn’t equally effective with both approaches. There’s no substitute for having an instructor literally standing by you as you learn.
      The last two gunsmiths I used were horrible. They seriously didn’t know what they were doing. Wanna guess what both had in common? They had “learned” gunsmithing from one of these online schools.
      I’m afraid these schools are likely churning out people who really don’t have a full and well-developed skill set, in turn flooding the market with people who probably don’t have much business calling themselves “gunsmiths”.
      There IS a demand for gunsmiths but finding one who actually knows what they’re doing is getting harder and harder.

    • @danclas5983
      @danclas5983 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fraudsniffer7280 Hand's on is the best way by far. Most of the people being churned out of these online classes should be considered Armor's, not gunsmiths.

    • @chasewaterman4534
      @chasewaterman4534 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Honestly CST (and other schools) are set up to maximize profit and maximize GI Bill intake. They had absolutely turned CST into a cash cow. That being said, most of the instructors knew what they were doing and the real Rubicon is getting to work on actual customer guns enough times that you figure out what the hell's going on. The reality is, there are many types of guns you can specialize in and some of them you'll make money doing. You're not going to get rich repairing Grandpa's shotgun.
      The other fact of life that comes with going to gunsmithing school, is that less than 10% of those students will actually become gunsmiths. Experienced dedication and hard work get you there like any other skilled technical job, and there is plenty of work to be done. Pick something you love doing and specialize in that. You do it long enough and you'll be an expert.

    • @1stidvet553
      @1stidvet553 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These youtubers should not be pushing something that will get their viewers into perpetual debt. They do it for money…they could take different sponsors that wont bankrupt Americans

    • @IwatchFilm
      @IwatchFilm หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@1stidvet553 Bullshit. It's a personal responsibility and choice whether or not to take on a debt. No different than taking a loan for a car or any other loan. I have zero sympathy for anyone with "student debt". Being in "perpetual" debt is a choice, no one is forced into it.

  • @davidmeeker7481
    @davidmeeker7481 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had originally looked at the BRN180 after passing up a chance to buy a Sterling AR180 back in earlt 90s. But I went with the Jackl as it afforded a 14.5 pin and welded. I always liked the 180 folding stock.

  • @jtlbz
    @jtlbz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish you would've added a rock River PDS In the category... It's also very similar.

  • @HDBujutsu1775
    @HDBujutsu1775 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love my BRN180, great carbine.

  • @maxhunter3574
    @maxhunter3574 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Got the 5.56 and .300bo jakl uppers, love them so far. Probably will get the 7.62x39 brn180 upper since I prefer the AR style mags system over the rock n lock ak crap. Both are great, jakl is a little heavier but super smooth cycling and recoil impulse. The brn180 is lighter but choppier. I'm still playing around with muzzle devices too.

  • @tomrickman6131
    @tomrickman6131 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRN 180 all day! The Jakl is awesome but looks to front heavy like you said. I think PSA listens to its buyers opinions and will upgrade eventually.

  • @jaretmoskal5558
    @jaretmoskal5558 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your dog with the earmuffs on is adorable

  • @MrJbrew69
    @MrJbrew69 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Besides it being slightly heavy once I fitted mine out, my Jakl is my favorite toy. Im going to slim it down soon. I got the 16” variant in FDE, PSA had a good deal on them a couple months ago for $1100.

  • @RadicallyMilkToast
    @RadicallyMilkToast หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a potential PSA JAKL buyer, thank you for your input. Learning the rolling changes are coming out for the rifle makes me want to wait for a "Mark 2" version once they work through all the feedback.

  • @SKSlaya12
    @SKSlaya12 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I built one on a adm uic180 lower and its amazing no issues I'm even thinking about sbring it. I run it with an original mcx stock

  • @KnifeCursed
    @KnifeCursed หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d probably go with the JAKL. Just seems a bit simpler of a design. One piece piston vs multi part. Handguard doesn’t need to be removed for cleaning. A lighter barrel would be cool like you said.

    • @KalashniKEV762
      @KalashniKEV762 หลายเดือนก่อน

      JAKL is made for going short and quiet. A light barrel does not make sense, or a barrel in the length reviewed.

    • @KnifeCursed
      @KnifeCursed หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KalashniKEV762 I don’t have any issues with a short suppressed gun having a pencil barrel. For my use, the trade offs are worth it.

  • @donh6177
    @donh6177 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think a better comparison would be a Robinson Arms XCR versus the PSA jakl.

  • @russherron7447
    @russherron7447 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Built my BRN 180 just to be different & have the old style look, but runs like a champ.

  • @DEATHWATCHxOPS
    @DEATHWATCHxOPS หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already have the jakl and a few ar's in different calibers. I love my jakl. The forend gets hot so I use a foregip. It's definitely front heavy. The model I have I believe is newer than the 1 you have in the video.

  • @TheCamaro5
    @TheCamaro5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would def go with the JAKL. Very easy to mount to a ar lower. I see the new ones have different charging handle and gas nob. Always improving is a plus to me.

  • @oorahjoe
    @oorahjoe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks

  • @BarisPalabiyik
    @BarisPalabiyik หลายเดือนก่อน

    PSA will release a bullpup lower for the Jackal. Which you will like for sure, hopefully it will address the front weight the barrel and gas block quite a bit.

  • @wobblybrute
    @wobblybrute หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @natermull8888
    @natermull8888 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my BRN-180. I’ve been teased by a reliable source that Gen 3 is on the way, some of the improvements were already incorporated into the .350 Legend version.

  • @MotecM
    @MotecM หลายเดือนก่อน

    KNS also makes a picatinny buffer tube thread end-caps for AR15 lowers. Just make sure you buy the version with wings to cover the rear take-down detent spring…

  • @Usmc0341
    @Usmc0341 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I prefer the Jakl over the BRN. Just preference. PSA has been very innovative lately, they just need to really ring in their quality control. I have two of their AR15s and i must say they run perfectly fine. But next to my DDM4 and my two Giesseles, when you put them together you can see and feel the difference in quality. But they do run very well

  • @robertcaseydavis
    @robertcaseydavis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your dog hearing protection!
    Based MAC!!!

  • @buddyg5584
    @buddyg5584 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd pick the Jakl because it doesn't have that cutout in the upper receiver for the reciprocating charging handle. That cutout just makes it easier for debris to get into the internals and cause a malfunction

  • @skydivingcomrade1648
    @skydivingcomrade1648 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Piston driven, with folding stocks and AR controls

    • @Survivinglife871
      @Survivinglife871 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sky is blue, with birds and a sun

  • @justanotherinternetexpert7743
    @justanotherinternetexpert7743 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the Jakl for its non-reciprocating charging handles, and the system seems like it is more sealed up then the BRN-180, I have a Sig MCX Lt so I already own a "ar180 like" system. ....but I actually really like My POF-USA P415 EDGE, and my LWRC SIX8 IC-A5. The lwrc and POF piston systems are really nice.

  • @stevecushman2830
    @stevecushman2830 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a BRN-180 556 rifle upper when the only options were pistol or rifle length. because I wanted an AR that would function with the stock folded. It was on sale for $750 & I mated it with a PSA theme lower. I completed the lower with a Sylvan Arms folding stock adapter, minimalist stock, lower completion parts from my parts stock. Including FFL transfer fee, sales tax on the stripped lower & FFL transfer I have less than $200 in the lower. I probably will replace the muzzle device with one with ASR suppressor mount. My Silencer Central Banish 30 & Silencer Co Hybrid 46M and Omega 300 all have ASR mounts.

  • @TheSlipAngle
    @TheSlipAngle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pencil barrels don't work on piston systems because of the disruption in barrel harmonics introduced by the piston. It can be done but then you'll repeat what happened to Sig with the first version of the MCX failing the military accuracy testing.

  • @johnf128416
    @johnf128416 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d go with the BRN180!!! Love PSA, but the BRN has my attention for my intended use.

  • @Matthew-bc9mr
    @Matthew-bc9mr หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like psa, and will def be getting something from them before too long. But have been looking for a 300blk platform to build out as a suppressor host, and that upper with the closeable gas block to do single shots sounds perfect. I will definitely have to look for that..

  • @tyleryork6071
    @tyleryork6071 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the 180 and the smooth recoil. Was planning on getting a jakl with the pinned muzzle for my suppressor. Once i finally received my hux suppressor, I'm taken back a bit by the added weight. I also added a new optic. Everything is pretty heavy.
    Knowing the jakl is heavier, even with a couple inches less barrel, has me paused on that decision.
    I'm not totally someone who loves optics but the whole setup with a suppressor just feels like unnecessary weight.
    The brn is really a quiet contender here. I'd love to see them expand and build upon that product. They need product developers with the aptitude of PSA but the engineering chops of Brownells contractor builders.

  • @scottbrock3237
    @scottbrock3237 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just put together a BRN-180SP. Eventually will have a Jakl too! Why chose! Have them all!!

  • @charleslowrey9309
    @charleslowrey9309 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might have to get a .308 version when they hit. If your Military or a Veteran, Calcara has some nice discounts on the 816. Bought their upper, and built out a stripped lower pretty nice finding parts on sale. Total basic rifle price was about PSA's msrp for the JAKL.

  • @aequitas8749
    @aequitas8749 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The ACR we didn't ask for but we needed.

  • @doejohn8674
    @doejohn8674 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a BRN-180 in 350 Legend, which might interest some hunters

  • @kd6pn
    @kd6pn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wolf A1 (T91) Upper is my pick for an AR180 style system. Lighter than both, combat proven, choice of barrel length (12, 14, 16"), and less expensive at $600. They're at AIM Surplus.

  • @lphillips6282
    @lphillips6282 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering you were a fan of primary weapon systems, and also a fan of Robinson armament. I would very much like to see you compare the Robinson XCR with the new PWS UXR…. They seem very similar in concept. And very similar and design. Both of which feature quick change barrel and caliber system, and appear to come completely ambidextrous.

  • @andresjackson9367
    @andresjackson9367 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The jakl stock looks awesome

    • @mavrikmavrik3032
      @mavrikmavrik3032 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does but…if you like to have a long pull (extend the stock out) and rest your cheek near the back of the stock you will fall into that gap where there is no cheek well. When I shoot it I have to change up my shooting mechanics so my cheek can rest on the stock. It looks great but for me I don’t like it.

  • @recondo886
    @recondo886 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two BRN-180s. one 18.5 inch and one 16 inch. both with the BRN-180 lower that mimics the OG AR18 lower.
    I would buy a couple more since they've come out with new caliber uppers, but they stopped selling the lowers. kind of makes the whole point moot. spare parts are even scarce on Brownells website. Hopefully PWS will have parts or maybe Nodak Spud continues the lower.

  • @Lexman00
    @Lexman00 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would pick the Jakl, because it keeps evolving, AND I want to trust and support PSA as the people's arms company going forward.

  • @Swaffles870
    @Swaffles870 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd def go with the Jakl. I've got my eyes on one currently and the support it has over the 180 is very soon, if not already, to overshadow it

  • @coreymerrill3257
    @coreymerrill3257 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With a few updates ,the rra pds would be a very good option . Give it a 1/8 twist barrel instead of 1/9, chf qpq nitrided, a few cartridge options and a few other options like barrel profile , brackets to use standard AR barrels ,ect. . It sadly never took off like it deserved too. It was made when rra was pioneering designs . They made the first Dedicated pistol caliber carbine lowers for Glock mags at about the same time they created their short stroke piston system carbine with non reciprocating forward charging handle , side folding stock, adjustable gas system and easily changed handguards for rails or no rails. Personally I think it's ascetics are really good too.

  • @Sigrafix
    @Sigrafix หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the Jakl on paper.. In practice, I'd go with the BRN 180 just on quality alone.
    I've had a 10.5'' BRN 180s Gen2 in .223 wylde for over 2 years on an Anderson lower, it's been flawless and surprisingly accurate.

  • @jasonseiverling5354
    @jasonseiverling5354 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came into this video already knowing I wanted a BRN-180 just like yours that is no longer available. 🤨 The 308 JAKL I will definitely be looking into. Thanks a million because I didn’t know ear pro for dogs was available.

  • @chrisbreneman6605
    @chrisbreneman6605 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As configured, the BRN-180 takes the cake. Without that cool retro lower though I'll have to give it to the JAKL.

  • @arikjohnson412
    @arikjohnson412 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A3 Tactical is in the process of trickling out a bullpup chassis for both these uppers (and FM) and I’ve got a pistol version on order for my .300BLK JAKL. If PSA would do a 13.7” P&W upper in .300 I’d pick a rifle version up for that as well but waiting to see how the Triad runs as a pistol chassis first and likely will try the rifle version for my BRN-180 uppers as well. It’ll be short, even with a can, that’s for sure! JAKL Triad takes a new front hand guard which adds to complexity so I figured simpler versions would be easier if I could figure out the pistol bullpup.

  • @mrshort2379
    @mrshort2379 หลายเดือนก่อน

    personally I like them both bit if I could only have one I would choose the BRN-180. However I think a Gen 2 version, of the Jakl correcting the gen 1 issues, and adding more options. therefore yeah if a gen 2 Jakl were here, fixing the current issues with the gen 1 Jakl, I would definitely choose the Jakl over the Brn-180

  • @mavrikmavrik3032
    @mavrikmavrik3032 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! JAKL definitely needs a break in. I’m not sure exactly why but it could be reduced internal upper dimensions due to the cerakote. The gas system also needs more gas (perhaps a larger gas port). Mine runs fine on max gas but only on max gas. There is a lot of mass reciprocating with each shot so the shooting experience is very different than an AR. It’s a nice rifle and a great AR/AK hybrid if that’s what you’re looking for. The BRN-180 has been out for a while and generally is higher quality (less QC issues) in my opinion. We have one with around 8k rounds on it and it’s a very soft shooting rifle. Having both I would buy a 180. However, if you open up the options I would consider the Bren 2 over both and if you can afford it, the Spear LT is pretty nice. (And yeah, the PWS systems are an option too)

  • @tsteinour
    @tsteinour 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you put a quiet can on the javkyl 14.5 inch or 13.5 inch pinned and welded. Whats involved getting a can to work with it

  • @mgmitchell92
    @mgmitchell92 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just looked at the Brownells website for BRN 180 and they have several caliber options... 223, 300blk, 762x39, 350 Legend. Yes, a 308 would be nice though

  • @melissasmess2773
    @melissasmess2773 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BRN-180 upper is the way to go unless you want to purchase another firearm and all that hassle. Brownell's has a lifetime guarantee.

  • @samcoz95
    @samcoz95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    might go with the Jakl even though its front heavier. The vibe is there and I think its a good first piston AR

  • @Snow-Storm-In-a-bottle
    @Snow-Storm-In-a-bottle 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love PSA for the price point. If the JAKL were able to be had for cheaper than the brn. i'd take the jakl.

  • @marcofguzman3075
    @marcofguzman3075 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely fantastic thank you had a 180 in Comifornia when it was legal but I did say was , Comifornia changed it fast and furious 😠 😮

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude cracks me up....info & humor.

  • @brrrt7623
    @brrrt7623 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the look of the Jakl and I am much more fond of long stroke due to my familiarity with AK platform rifles. My primary gripe with the jakl is no forward assist and the inability to assist into battery with the charging handle and a seemingly flimsy connector to boot. Thats a personal thing and likely a non issue but due to that and the peace of mind that the BRN180/AR180 has been around and stood the test of time, and battle...i choose the BRN 180.

  • @DB-yj3qc
    @DB-yj3qc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Late to seeing the video, my choice is already made as of buying BRN-180 few years ago, or actually not long after it came out. It's a good suppressor host within reason. I should have got a barrel length in "rifle sized" then pinned n weld a flash hider/ suppressor device. Then I could get a stock without another stamp in my collection. It's definitely something to be different than the AR-15 and others, not a "go to" by any means due to limited parts supply.

  • @bmunat
    @bmunat หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have both and I like them both. The JAKL is a 556 pin and weld. The BRN is a 10 inch 300 that I run on my RRA LAR-PDS with a form 1. I had to send the BRN back to have the piston system upgraded because originally you couldn't take it down to clean it without removing the gas block! Not OK! I asked PWS to also fix the stupid auto ejecting guide rods (good to see you take it in the chest too... I'm gonna be so pissed off it does that somewhere I can't retrieve it!) The JAKL is quite heavy but it has had no issues or annoyances. Their way of latching the guide rod into the receiver seems so damn obvious. I will probably never buy a Brownells gun again out protest of that stupid spring design.

  • @PropsnPews
    @PropsnPews หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went with the BRN180 because PWS in the design tried to stay close to the original Eugene Stoner AR180. Also PWS supports the product after sale on this platform.

  • @georgg372
    @georgg372 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd go for the BRN-180 in 10.5", coz it's available in the country where I live, and buying only the Upper won't block space on my semi-auto permit (Europe, it's complicated I know, but thanks for the condolences)

  • @roysmith1995
    @roysmith1995 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you recommend a specific hearing protection for dogs? I'm very interested in getting some for my Great Dane.

  • @ducksrgud
    @ducksrgud หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel that's a fair comparison. I have not shot either so I can't argue with your results either. I do know that there's something about the 13.5 p&w Jakl in FDE that just looks GOOD!

  • @2ACops
    @2ACops หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have both in .300BLK. I think the BRN-180 is slightly lighter shooting, and definitely lighter overall weight, but at least in .300BLK, the Jakl is a shorter overall package and fits great in my backpack with a can on it. I like the forward charging handle on the Jakl better than the reciprocating bolt mounted charging handle of the BRN.
    If Brownells updated the BRN-180 with a forward, non-reciprocating charging handle that could also function as a forward assist, thus negating the need for that giant opening in the receiver that could allow all kinds of junk to get in behind the BCG and into the trigger, they would have one hell of a rifle. If that happened, it would be my hands down favorite.

  • @Huntinggearguy
    @Huntinggearguy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shoe Horning the gas piston into a di ar15 setup is what a lot of Canadian 180 alternatives tried to do. Resulted in a bunch of bent and broken gas pistons.

  • @alexanderstordeur9434
    @alexanderstordeur9434 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Canadian legal gun vs what used to be a cheaper alternative to a Colt M16/603/SP1 AR-15 back in the day.

  • @tugdrivinj
    @tugdrivinj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would like to see the jakl in a 300 blk rifle. As far as I can tell right now 300 blk are all super short.
    So far though I think I will stick to AR for now.

  • @ricardojustiniano4942
    @ricardojustiniano4942 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to the 308 jakal. But maybe too late for the super jakal when they have the sabre line when the sabre line is easier to customize and turn into gucci ars. I've been looking at the psa sabre m10a1 since at least in NY 556 have been hard to find in quantity and variety. I wanted the sabre m110 but im 5'2" so a 16" barrled 308 works out better and I can swap out uppers better.

  • @Maddog3060
    @Maddog3060 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They both look neat. I'm not sure which I could pick, to be honest. If push comes to shove, maybe the Jakl after PSA has the kinks ironed out, if only because I'm poor. But that PWS upper is mighty tempting nonetheless.

  • @handroids1981
    @handroids1981 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video, thanks MAC and everyone else involved.
    I think the PunLuber Entertainment section is tired of generic AR556 content.