But that's not how capitalism has ever worked in practice. You are right, though; that group has the power. Just as the majority of Americans have the power in the USA. But in execution, those at the top have convinced everyone the upper crust eats first. And the masses go along with the program.
Too many conflicting interests, and that’s all by design for pga tour execs to act in their own self interest while claiming it’s “for the good of the tour” … the tour is far too large making players powerless to management
Pif taking over the DPWT would only make global golf stronger. R&A would then have to recognize Liv since DPWT and The Open are hand in hand. Thats Golf's original history. Then I'd make the Australian Open a new major. Go to France, Italy and South African Open's as well. Global Majors.. I'd look at the Asian Tours as well. Korea and Japan. China. Something to think about.
The best thing about pga tour so far are all the players OUTSIDE the top 50, 100 and greater winning. I hope none of the "top guys" win this yr (scheffler, Thomas, spieth) etc
PGA is hanging on by a thread. If PIF does'nt get DPWT out of this mess, LIV will grow like crazy. With DPWT the all world tour will be intact, and if not, PIF will just build the LIV product to achieve the same thing. PGA monopoly is looking ill and they have their lack of leadership to blame. Jay was bad enough, then he added Tiger to the mix to completely wipe out anything that could have worked for everyone. Yet one thing is certain, we will continue to hear how the best players in the world are playing for PGA, ugh.
The phone was ringing. They had a chance to get a cut and make it realtively doable. It aint never going to happen now. LIV is doing exactly what PGAT did to the european tour.
Looks pretty obvious the PGAT are offering their players...... sign this one off loyalty payment (which will be big for the top 20 and crap for the rest from the good people of SSG).... but you must sign a lifetime deal to stay with us when you take the payment...... Then all they need to do is wait out the 5-10 years before LIV runs out of players, as everyone else is signed to PGAT/SSG. A model destined to fail, as LIV will be willing to write to the cheques for court cases anyone who wants out of the PGAT/SSG lifetime deal. The second part of the PGAT/SSG deal is, this is the only path to ranking points and majors........ meanwhile the majors and PGA of America and R&A, go sorry don't make deals on our behalf trying to restrain trade and damage our products justb so you can keep what is left..... this mnight be the final step for the majors to make their own call on who is in and out of majors based on form on all tours not on OWGR.
Seth and Jay both worked at Fenway, Jay went to John with his hands out. John, armed with significant knowledge, set the trap to help me jump the shark.
Ed and Jimmy come from the fee based world. They’ve hit the jackpot of all fees. SSG will give them meaningless board seats or nothing. They don’t care.
That DPWT angle is obvious and interesting. LIV, like a woman scorned, hath no fury, just vengeance. They will spank the PGAT and make it the "feeder" tour. At the moment, watching PGAT events is as dull as dishwater. LIV is fun and interesting. Time will tell.
Please do a deep dive on what will happen after the masters …… will hideki go to LIV , how many more go to LIV this year Rory ??? Heard he might go to Play Europe’s tour , hence the move to London or maybe he’s gonna be more centrally located for a LIV Tour? It’s gonna get interesting this year on so many levels Politically, economically, socially and golf world !!! Rahm started the dominoes for LIV momentum . BRICS has at least 60% of the worlds countries on or ready to sign on to BRICS , and don’t forget the bonds that are maturing and must be paid off … we’re talking 7 to 8 trillion the feds must come up with ???? All the while the world is liquidating their treasury bonds !!! Which means no one is buying the feds / treasury debt anymore . Whose gonna pay off bonds ?? The printing press !!!! Just print the dollar into oblivion . Meanwhile gold is holding at over 2100 an ounce !!! And bit coins over 61 k a token !!!! Strap on your seat belts boys cuz inflations going Weimar on us . The money PLEDGED to PGA most likely will fall off the cliff We LIV in exciting times to say the least . This will be a massive roller coaster year !!! And we haven’t even touched politics 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😱😱
Good show guys. LIv guys could put pressure on pif to get them into majors. But we all know the majors without many of the LIv guys are increasingly not majors (except the masters because it’s the masters and they truly can do whatever they want). LIv needs to keep their focus on investing in the players, getting more of the top players (no longer based on the owgr but data golf and others). As Far as the groups: The one I want to focus on is the players group. Tiger and the golden boys -Jordan, jt, sheff, Rory and a few other guys - have their issues with the rank and file but ironically are on the same side as the rank and file. Why? Because no one at LIv really wants the rank and file …and the golden boys especially Tiger know they will have many special perks with the pga tour as their careers progress; ie their own tournaments, now possibly major stakes and more. The rank and file should consider themselves very lucky to be in the jet stream of this whole thing because it’s never been a better time to be a mediocre Tour pro. But tiger and the pga tour golden boys do have a choice still. And that’s why they are still the key to this whole thing. Those golden Tour guys are still in a great position assuming Rory doesn’t decide it’s a good idea to take a good hand, show everyone their cards and fold; which he is trying to do but still. The golden boys have that hand for now. That’s why LIv needs to focus on that second tier of stars remaining on the pga tour. For whatever reason yesterday was the day the pga tour and pga tour channel side started admitting the owgr is basically irrelevant. They defended what they did but acknowledged it’s not doing the job of properly ranking golfers. And I want to stress it’s not just with LIv they are poor at ranking golfers. The owgr as rahm mentioned again today has been flawed and biased for a long time. He also thought LIv had already stopped pursuing owgr points; that’s how irrelevant the owgr is gotten. This is what happens when a ranking system has conflicts of interest. Again, liv need to get as many top LIV (54) players and let the rest sort itself out. The majors can only sacrifice their events for the pga tour for so long. Something will have to give. The LIv boys just need to be patient.
Great show guys, i have a question: how can the pga tour members be an equity partner of this new entity? I know the business details arent out yet but this is more of a theory/thought question. If the tour operates on a meritocracy and theres an ever revolving door of players, how can they keep touting that the tour players are going to own a piece of this new entity if there not guarenteed anything? Do they give the ownership stakes to the pga tour card holders of that season? Likewise, if you lose your membership card the next season you lose the stake in the tour? What are the pros/cons of this or am i out to lunch on this, cause i can see why the attraction of a guarenteed contract to a top player would look like. Alot of these tour players lack the NIL, the top tour talent have that NIL but you can argue some youtubers have a larger influence via social media, like the rick shiels of the world, not saying theres alot of them but i know alot of friends that know rick shiels over viktor hovland and alot of these top tour guys just via social media presence. The pga has done a shit job of marketing there guys, its always been the same ole shit, no innovation, only now your starting to see it, via a competitor on the market in the form of LIV. Sorry this comment dragged on, ill understand if you stopped reading. Cheers
@@ThinkingManShow Ed and Jimmy are probably caught between Tiger and the other board members who are following Tigers lead... Remember Pro Golfers are not know for their business degrees... Once the SSG model proves ineffective ... Tigers influence will wane... In the mean time LIV will just continue to recruit the player off the top 50 and make the PGA Tour into the Tinkerbell plus league ...
Momentum definitely shifted to the PGA. Unfortunately that is not good news for the fans as that means there won't be an agreement anytime soon. I hope that that PIF concentrates on the rest of the world. Build the Asian tour and creates big events in Australia, Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
Open Questions: How long can the PGAT keep this going? (asking for 3x) ...current status quo ?? ? What open litigation is there ? Why would SSG want to simply "pay-off" legacy PGAT members, which $$ going into a black hole, what does SSG get fore this ?
If you trust Tiger, you deserve your outcome. This is no longer about golf. The PGA Tour blew it. I concur that Jay is in over his head, Tiger is looking to take over the throne. LIV made golf fun and competitive again. PGA Tour is managing outcomes and their favorite players. The masters, just a huge disappointment. No one seems to be looking at the future, just protecting what they think they have today. It’s sad.
Why do american sports typically generate huge $$$ for franchises and players? It is easy to follow and scale. Premier league similar. Golf is hard to follow, i have to make an effort to follow professional tours. These insights help see egos before logic are the basis of decision making. Hard to predict what will happen, but fun to see how it falls out. OWGR is a joke and every non-US stakeholder has always thought so.
I brought SSG to the table. The game TGL is based upon is protected by my US PATENT, and they are helping me to monetize it. John Henry and I go way back.
How this TH-cam channel isn’t any bigger? I don’t know. But I do understand anything that goes against the grain specifically when talking about Tiger will not surface any popularity. I am young, so young that I didn’t even see prime Tiger but he dominates the sport in an unhealthy fashion ane he’s looking to capitalize on it. It’s LIV Vs Tiger Woods not Live Vs PGA, at this point. Thanks for the videos!
LIV business model is not working, yet! It may or it may not. PGA and PIF are playing chicken. How much are PIF willing to invest without decent returns, that’s the big question
The money they put in to l i v is just petty cash throw away cash you may say l i v is not working but it's working pretty well where I'm from in Australia the event this year has 50,000 tickets a day sold you can't buy a ticket now it's been sold out for months so it might not be working in your neck of the woods but it certainly working in mind like I said pif throw away money they'll keep going and going with more and more players to go over that's a fact😮😮
@@seanmawson6286 Yes, it’s petty cash but they will be looking for a return at some point. It’s just a question of how far they will go. Interesting point about Australia. It maybe a place that’s been a bit starved of top golf stars for a long time. Perhaps not that surprising. I suspect PGA/DP may make moves into Australia to compete. A big question is how much money they are making from TV, I suspect not a lot of people are watching
It is working. They cannot way more than we can imagine. And they can patiently wait for plenty of returns. While they wait they will gain in other ways.
Sponsors won’t back them - there’s more talent in my clubs monthly medal and we play for a chook on a Sunday - I would send a cheque but $100 usd is about $234 Aussie dollars!!
I wish you guys would fully embrace TH-cam and cover topics closer in real time, as so much has occurred the past two days to the point this is somewhat old news. Try as I might, I can't get myself to pay for a Podcast subscription. I don't see enough value or content to justify paying $19.99 month - especially when by the time you upload a podcast it's old news. I'd be more inclined to support you and the show were you to simply go "full on" TH-cam and had a Patreon account where you had exclusive stuff for members. If promoted properly, you could make way more on YT than you ever could going the subscription route. Hope you'll one day see the light as yours is some of the best content out there.
Aren’t we just looking at two rival tours - LIV and the PGA feeding a mega tour joint sanctioned. Can we not have a pyramid where the top 35 players from each tour qualify for 10 mega events - the majors and another half dozen. Every year we promote and relegate 6 players from each tour to the mega tour?
Ugh. I got all warm fuzzy feeling when I saw the title…. Then I hear the 4! I was really hoping for…..flat earth- because when I hit my ball it goes right…..right…..right then hits a roof n bounces back in the fairway> whew. 2nd Bigfoot, when I land in a divot the size of a small size 24 shoe, and wonder why there isn’t a rule to pickup n move ur ball out!!! 3) the Big Bang theory 😊 I buy those damn $700 drivers. N bang it sounds like a shotgun going off……and D) never PiF’r the idea that they, them , those think you just let a great paying job go by-cuz that’s what pro athletes do…..ha so I’ll keep listen to you two. Let me know if u need some very insightful words……or not. 😂
LIV is price tagging pro golf's soul. Take the cash and kiss your competitive career good-bye. Their choice but I bet many are double guessing their decisions.
Thx Jimmer...........seems to us that enough players are uniting around one point: the PGA Tour and Majors are exploiting them. Yes, the few guys who can play awesome golf make great money but the Tour and Majors make more while the rank and file fill in the blanks at no charge. The players play for free at the Majors - amazing - and that stunning fact is sinking in with them. When a Matt Fitzpatrick starts saying nice things about LIV players and pooping on the OWGR (which is the Majors), look out Majors. If enough name brand players band together, the power shifts to them.
Once a fan, this is my take on LIV after the Hamas attack: if Satan whispered in your ear and offered every luxury you could ever imagine would you sell your professional soul? Some would resist, while many would not. I have compassion for the LIV players but I'm afraid their competitive careers are over. They took the cash, more than imaginable, and now they're stuck playing one another for the rest of their playing days, a form of luxurious purgatory. I could be wrong, but I was right that the deal would never happen.
Yes you are wrong. Hamas attack? what's that got to do with LIV? You are connecting Satan to LIV?? How about the US attack on Iraq....based totally on lies...hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were killed...
I would love to see a law suit that includes Tiger in the OWGR conspiracy suit...
When are players 51 through 500 in the world going to realize THEY are the product? They should have all the power!
But that's not how capitalism has ever worked in practice. You are right, though; that group has the power. Just as the majority of Americans have the power in the USA. But in execution, those at the top have convinced everyone the upper crust eats first. And the masses go along with the program.
Too many conflicting interests, and that’s all by design for pga tour execs to act in their own self interest while claiming it’s “for the good of the tour” … the tour is far too large making players powerless to management
Pif taking over the DPWT would only make global golf stronger. R&A would then have to recognize Liv since DPWT and The Open are hand in hand. Thats Golf's original history.
Then I'd make the Australian Open a new major. Go to France, Italy and South African Open's as well. Global Majors..
I'd look at the Asian Tours as well. Korea and Japan. China.
Something to think about.
no one is going into depth with this subject like you guys, this content is so needed right now!
All of this strife can be traced back to the shirt Larry Mize was wearing when he won the Masters.
The best thing about pga tour so far are all the players OUTSIDE the top 50, 100 and greater winning. I hope none of the "top guys" win this yr (scheffler, Thomas, spieth) etc
PGA is hanging on by a thread. If PIF does'nt get DPWT out of this mess, LIV will grow like crazy. With DPWT the all world tour will be intact, and if not, PIF will just build the LIV product to achieve the same thing. PGA monopoly is looking ill and they have their lack of leadership to blame. Jay was bad enough, then he added Tiger to the mix to completely wipe out anything that could have worked for everyone. Yet one thing is certain, we will continue to hear how the best players in the world are playing for PGA, ugh.
PIF should invest asap in Euro tour and get the world tour happening
The phone was ringing. They had a chance to get a cut and make it realtively doable. It aint never going to happen now. LIV is doing exactly what PGAT did to the european tour.
SSG will never see their money again.....Tiger will take it all
Looks pretty obvious the PGAT are offering their players...... sign this one off loyalty payment (which will be big for the top 20 and crap for the rest from the good people of SSG).... but you must sign a lifetime deal to stay with us when you take the payment...... Then all they need to do is wait out the 5-10 years before LIV runs out of players, as everyone else is signed to PGAT/SSG. A model destined to fail, as LIV will be willing to write to the cheques for court cases anyone who wants out of the PGAT/SSG lifetime deal. The second part of the PGAT/SSG deal is, this is the only path to ranking points and majors........ meanwhile the majors and PGA of America and R&A, go sorry don't make deals on our behalf trying to restrain trade and damage our products justb so you can keep what is left..... this mnight be the final step for the majors to make their own call on who is in and out of majors based on form on all tours not on OWGR.
Seth and Jay both worked at Fenway, Jay went to John with his hands out. John, armed with significant knowledge, set the trap to help me jump the shark.
Ed and Jimmy come from the fee based world. They’ve hit the jackpot of all fees. SSG will give them meaningless board seats or nothing. They don’t care.
points baby, it's the points
That DPWT angle is obvious and interesting. LIV, like a woman scorned, hath no fury, just vengeance. They will spank the PGAT and make it the "feeder" tour. At the moment, watching PGAT events is as dull as dishwater. LIV is fun and interesting. Time will tell.
Please do a deep dive on what will happen after the masters …… will hideki go to LIV , how many more go to LIV this year Rory ???
Heard he might go to Play Europe’s tour , hence the move to London or maybe he’s gonna be more centrally located for a LIV Tour? It’s gonna get interesting this year on so many levels
Politically, economically, socially and golf world !!!
Rahm started the dominoes for LIV momentum .
BRICS has at least 60% of the worlds countries on or ready to sign on to BRICS , and don’t forget the bonds that are maturing and must be paid off … we’re talking 7 to 8 trillion the feds must come up with ???? All the while the world is liquidating their treasury bonds !!! Which means no one is buying the feds / treasury debt anymore . Whose gonna pay off bonds ?? The printing press !!!! Just print the dollar into oblivion . Meanwhile gold is holding at over 2100 an ounce !!! And bit coins over 61 k a token !!!! Strap on your seat belts boys cuz inflations going Weimar on us . The money PLEDGED to PGA most likely will fall off the cliff
We LIV in exciting times to say the least . This will be a massive roller coaster year !!!
And we haven’t even touched politics 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😱😱
Good show guys.
LIv guys could put pressure on pif to get them into majors. But we all know the majors without many of the LIv guys are increasingly not majors (except the masters because it’s the masters and they truly can do whatever they want).
LIv needs to keep their focus on investing in the players, getting more of the top players (no longer based on the owgr but data golf and others).
As Far as the groups:
The one I want to focus on is the players group.
Tiger and the golden boys -Jordan, jt, sheff, Rory and a few other guys - have their issues with the rank and file but ironically are on the same side as the rank and file. Why?
Because no one at LIv really wants the rank and file …and the golden boys especially Tiger know they will have many special perks with the pga tour as their careers progress; ie their own tournaments, now possibly major stakes and more.
The rank and file should consider themselves very lucky to be in the jet stream of this whole thing because it’s never been a better time to be a mediocre Tour pro.
But tiger and the pga tour golden boys do have a choice still. And that’s why they are still the key to this whole thing.
Those golden Tour guys are still in a great position assuming Rory doesn’t decide it’s a good idea to take a good hand, show everyone their cards and fold; which he is trying to do but still. The golden boys have that hand for now.
That’s why LIv needs to focus on that second tier of stars remaining on the pga tour.
For whatever reason yesterday was the day the pga tour and pga tour channel side started admitting the owgr is basically irrelevant. They defended what they did but acknowledged it’s not doing the job of properly ranking golfers. And I want to stress it’s not just with LIv they are poor at ranking golfers. The owgr as rahm mentioned again today has been flawed and biased for a long time. He also thought LIv had already stopped pursuing owgr points; that’s how irrelevant the owgr is gotten.
This is what happens when a ranking system has conflicts of interest.
Again, liv need to get as many top LIV (54) players and let the rest sort itself out. The majors can only sacrifice their events for the pga tour for so long. Something will have to give. The LIv boys just need to be patient.
This came out a lil late. The PIF has called it quits with the crooked PGAT.
Such great value this guys. At times I feel like I'm watching an episode of Soap but that said some great points made. Keep it coming
Great show guys, i have a question: how can the pga tour members be an equity partner of this new entity? I know the business details arent out yet but this is more of a theory/thought question. If the tour operates on a meritocracy and theres an ever revolving door of players, how can they keep touting that the tour players are going to own a piece of this new entity if there not guarenteed anything? Do they give the ownership stakes to the pga tour card holders of that season? Likewise, if you lose your membership card the next season you lose the stake in the tour? What are the pros/cons of this or am i out to lunch on this, cause i can see why the attraction of a guarenteed contract to a top player would look like. Alot of these tour players lack the NIL, the top tour talent have that NIL but you can argue some youtubers have a larger influence via social media, like the rick shiels of the world, not saying theres alot of them but i know alot of friends that know rick shiels over viktor hovland and alot of these top tour guys just via social media presence. The pga has done a shit job of marketing there guys, its always been the same ole shit, no innovation, only now your starting to see it, via a competitor on the market in the form of LIV. Sorry this comment dragged on, ill understand if you stopped reading. Cheers
Good questions and well asked, IMO.
I think SSG was brought in by Tiger and Jay Monahan ... Jay is still there so SSG saved his job ...
A reasonable possibility JH.
Where does that put Ed and Jimmy….
Monahan is the worst CEO I've ever seen
Jay got $17 million in 2022..insane
@@ThinkingManShow Ed and Jimmy are probably caught between Tiger and the other board members who are following Tigers lead... Remember Pro Golfers are not know for their business degrees... Once the SSG model proves ineffective ... Tigers influence will wane... In the mean time LIV will just continue to recruit the player off the top 50 and make the PGA Tour into the Tinkerbell plus league ...
@@1362pcand 18.5 million in 23
Momentum definitely shifted to the PGA. Unfortunately that is not good news for the fans as that means there won't be an agreement anytime soon. I hope that that PIF concentrates on the rest of the world. Build the Asian tour and creates big events in Australia, Asia, Africa and the Middle East.
Africa will be the problem. Old farts like Gary Player, Ernie Els, and Nick Price are never PIFers
PIF invests in Euro tour, sign up Rory, and get the world tour happening.
Jimmy and Ed were at Seminole with Rory, Tiger and Seth. Oh to be a fly on the wall.
Open Questions:
How long can the PGAT keep this going? (asking for 3x) ...current status quo ?? ?
What open litigation is there ?
Why would SSG want to simply "pay-off" legacy PGAT members, which $$ going into a black hole, what does SSG get fore this ?
Where do the equipment companies fit in? They have a lot of power behind scenes as well and liv makes the price of players skyrocket.
As always 👍👍👍
If you trust Tiger, you deserve your outcome. This is no longer about golf. The PGA Tour blew it. I concur that Jay is in over his head, Tiger is looking to take over the throne. LIV made golf fun and competitive again. PGA Tour is managing outcomes and their favorite players. The masters, just a huge disappointment. No one seems to be looking at the future, just protecting what they think they have today. It’s sad.
There will be two tours with 20 teams each. The PGAT has some catching up to do!
Another sport ruined by greed, drama, egos, and lack of organizational vision.
Why do american sports typically generate huge $$$ for franchises and players? It is easy to follow and scale. Premier league similar.
Golf is hard to follow, i have to make an effort to follow professional tours. These insights help see egos before logic are the basis of decision making. Hard to predict what will happen, but fun to see how it falls out.
OWGR is a joke and every non-US stakeholder has always thought so.
I brought SSG to the table. The game TGL is based upon is protected by my US PATENT, and they are helping me to monetize it. John Henry and I go way back.
How this TH-cam channel isn’t any bigger? I don’t know. But I do understand anything that goes against the grain specifically when talking about Tiger will not surface any popularity. I am young, so young that I didn’t even see prime Tiger but he dominates the sport in an unhealthy fashion ane he’s looking to capitalize on it. It’s LIV Vs Tiger Woods not Live Vs PGA, at this point. Thanks for the videos!
LIV business model is not working, yet! It may or it may not. PGA and PIF are playing chicken. How much are PIF willing to invest without decent returns, that’s the big question
The money they put in to l i v is just petty cash throw away cash you may say l i v is not working but it's working pretty well where I'm from in Australia the event this year has 50,000 tickets a day sold you can't buy a ticket now it's been sold out for months so it might not be working in your neck of the woods but it certainly working in mind like I said pif throw away money they'll keep going and going with more and more players to go over that's a fact😮😮
@@seanmawson6286 Yes, it’s petty cash but they will be looking for a return at some point. It’s just a question of how far they will go. Interesting point about Australia. It maybe a place that’s been a bit starved of top golf stars for a long time. Perhaps not that surprising. I suspect PGA/DP may make moves into Australia to compete. A big question is how much money they are making from TV, I suspect not a lot of people are watching
It is working. They cannot way more than we can imagine. And they can patiently wait for plenty of returns. While they wait they will gain in other ways.
@@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 in what way is it working?
Excellent 🎉
We love a good conspiracy almost as much as backup plans.
As always, continuing to bat a thousand
The Black Swan has landed…
Sponsors won’t back them - there’s more talent in my clubs monthly medal and we play for a chook on a Sunday - I would send a cheque but $100 usd is about $234 Aussie dollars!!
Jimmy & Ed get nothing, and quietly disappear from golf’s ecosystem.
Keep your eye on FSG, Rory and Boston Common. I have a sneaky feeling.
I wish you guys would fully embrace TH-cam and cover topics closer in real time, as so much has occurred the past two days to the point this is somewhat old news. Try as I might, I can't get myself to pay for a Podcast subscription. I don't see enough value or content to justify paying $19.99 month - especially when by the time you upload a podcast it's old news. I'd be more inclined to support you and the show were you to simply go "full on" TH-cam and had a Patreon account where you had exclusive stuff for members. If promoted properly, you could make way more on YT than you ever could going the subscription route. Hope you'll one day see the light as yours is some of the best content out there.
From what azinger said, does liv at this point just pray that the major winners are pga stars and sign them at the end of the season
PGAT screwed Azinger...but he is still a puppet?
Aren’t we just looking at two rival tours - LIV and the PGA feeding a mega tour joint sanctioned. Can we not have a pyramid where the top 35 players from each tour qualify for 10 mega events - the majors and another half dozen. Every year we promote and relegate 6 players from each tour to the mega tour?
Ugh. I got all warm fuzzy feeling when I saw the title…. Then I hear the 4! I was really hoping for…..flat earth- because when I hit my ball it goes right…..right…..right then hits a roof n bounces back in the fairway> whew. 2nd Bigfoot, when I land in a divot the size of a small size 24 shoe, and wonder why there isn’t a rule to pickup n move ur ball out!!! 3) the Big Bang theory 😊 I buy those damn $700 drivers. N bang it sounds like a shotgun going off……and D) never PiF’r the idea that they, them , those think you just let a great paying job go by-cuz that’s what pro athletes do…..ha so I’ll keep listen to you two. Let me know if u need some very insightful words……or not. 😂
Is B-Team capable of speaking normally? He sounds like a bad morning show DJ doing a Jeff Goldblum impression.
LIV is price tagging pro golf's soul. Take the cash and kiss your competitive career good-bye. Their choice but I bet many are double guessing their decisions.
Thx Jimmer...........seems to us that enough players are uniting around one point: the PGA Tour and Majors are exploiting them. Yes, the few guys who can play awesome golf make great money but the Tour and Majors make more while the rank and file fill in the blanks at no charge. The players play for free at the Majors - amazing - and that stunning fact is sinking in with them. When a Matt Fitzpatrick starts saying nice things about LIV players and pooping on the OWGR (which is the Majors), look out Majors. If enough name brand players band together, the power shifts to them.
@@ThinkingManShow I get it. A storm is coming.
Tiger and the Aristocrats, sounds like a bad band. They all are begging FSG for money. No way LIV can be right.
Once a fan, this is my take on LIV after the Hamas attack: if Satan whispered in your ear and offered every luxury you could ever imagine would you sell your professional soul? Some would resist, while many would not. I have compassion for the LIV players but I'm afraid their competitive careers are over. They took the cash, more than imaginable, and now they're stuck playing one another for the rest of their playing days, a form of luxurious purgatory. I could be wrong, but I was right that the deal would never happen.
Yes you are wrong. Hamas attack? what's that got to do with LIV? You are connecting Satan to LIV?? How about the US attack on Iraq....based totally on lies...hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were killed...
Satan?.... you idiot.