Incredible how much was inaccurate during the opening statement. West Ham did the majority of our business before the window started. Saturday's team had 4 new signings not 7. It was not the worst defensive performance during the last five years. That was Arsenal 6-0 or Fulham 5-0 last season. There was a plea for Lopetegui to get time because he was a new manager and had new managers then a direct comparison was made to two other managers who are also new but don't seem to have struggled with new players or tactics.
Jon : ' The game against Chelsea was one the worst defensively in last 5 years' Mate we literally lost last season 5-0 to Chelsea, 6-0 to Arsenal, 5-2 to Palace, 5-0 FUlham, 4-1 Aston Villa, 3 - 0 Manchester United with Moyes low block in charge. Agenda clearly being pushed on Lopetegui since he came in. Moyes left the squad with terrible low morale. We just continued the form we had been left with in. But its fine its only 5 games, Lopetegui will turn this around easily.
Yep it’s Moyes fault you lot piled on him as soon as he WON you a European trophy. Mad innit all that outside noise definitely had NO effect all on Moyes. It’s really special how poorly you treat him. Enjoy lopetegui ball 😂
A guy who takes a job at a club while on managerial duty with his country at the WC! And Milan fans revolted when he was mentioned as a possible managerial appt. That to me was not a good signing to replace Moyes.
This starts and ends at the feet of David Sullivan. Maybe you folks in the media can't say anything against ownership.??? It's understandable not to bite the hand that's feeding you. But while the club has an owner who CANNOT give up control to a director of football. Then nothing will change on and off the pitch. All the club has done is exchanged Moyes. For the Spanish Allardyce. All because the chairman has a good working relationship with said Manager agents. It's starts at the top. And the s**t trickles down.!
Exactly what West Ham fans deserve after the way they treated Moyes. Maybe there is some crazy issue with Todibo, but this was pretty clearly the BEST signing of the entire window for them and he hasn’t been given a single game. Mavropanos is only staring on a relegation candidate, which is how Ham look now. Fulkrug was also a WOEFUL signing.
The mess moyes left the club in is a big ask of any coach to turn around in a few games but that said dont think Loppi is the man he was not the vision Tim Stieden wanted like most fans but sullivan couldn't help himself and used his agent ,,mates,, and let them mess up D.O.F for the cheapest option.
As someone who watches a lot of the Brasileirao, Luis Guilherme for that was a complete fleece. In a league where youngsters habitually announce themselves (Endrick, Gustavo Gomes, Estevao, Wesley), he figuratively never said a word.
@@PlayerAyte time will tell Chelsea let Declan Rice go and then he became our captain and put 105 million in the bank for West Ham ,now at Arsenal so time will tell
@@fredtraylen4311 that's totally different because Declan Rice was still regarded as a very promising English talent from an English academy, and went to an English team as an academy player. He was totally free. Guilherme is one of the biggest risks I've ever seen in the PL. 30m for a South American talent that couldn't even crack a first team that has a longstanding history of kids breaking through is pretty mind-boggling.
Was so happy to see the end of the moyes era but it was tarnished by the appointment of Lopetegui who i viewed as a David Moyes on steroids. I still believe we have made a big mistake hiring him but I really hope to be proved wrong and see him become a success.
He looks clueless. Doesn't know his best side. He doesn't know his best formation. Doesn't get anything out of established stars or new signings. Cant score from open play and have very few chances. Leaks goals from a so called better defense. Bought another old striker and not Toney or Duran. Apart from that its great. Oh add the fact that we are SO SLOW no legs no heads. Bowen only seems to only look good counter attacking and is not a captain not a player to motivate those around him of take a game by the scruff. Alvarez all day long a man who threatened to kill a Chelsea player in the car park!!!
Anyone with intelligence said this last year when Moyes was announced to leave. Fans just wanted some new and shiny, which is fine. But regardless of whether West Ham parks the bus, or tries a bit of tippy-tappy. They always be a club that'll fight for Europe and then drop to fight relegation in cycles. Because they're fundamentally not super rich, nor the most attractive club in London. It's easy to go "careful what you wish for" etc etc. but a drop would've eventually happened under Moyes or any other manager. All that differs is the criticism.
Loppy needs a bit of time as the club has replaced over half of its team but one thing is for sure and that is that his team WILL NOT concede over 70 goals this season unlike the last bloke .... "I win ... that's what I do" 😳 .... "Be careful what you wish for" 🥱... "but ... but ... but he won you your first cup in 250 years" 🤡
We need a look into Steve Madley's description of what happened at the Manchester City vs Arsenal game. You have lost a fan if you have got people like him working in your organization.
Flappy flapping at this stage of the season? Modern football is shit. Only TH-cam channels are worse. Where's the Carabaou fixed draw outrage? Loads of new players to adjust. Wrong choice of captain. Loppys level of English is appalling and he spouts inarticulate cliches. But id give him a bit more time before soiling my bloomers. And at least we have white socks again. Irons.
@@danielberry4765 whoever took over from moyes is going to need a miracle the state he left the club in oldest slowest squad in prem that were not relegated that's fact stats most goals conceded apart from teams that went down man management a joke threw his toys out of the pram cos he wanted full control of transfers and everything . Then in winter window when still in with a chance of Europe and winning Europa League knocks back every single player except city reject ,,he is all I need ,, 😂🤣🤣 he said .
@@danielberry4765 yes and fair play but as soon as Irvine left he had no clue it was so obvious the season we won in Prague until the players got together without moyes and decided to play their way we were heading 👇 down and the con cup European teams were not used to our style . That should of moyes cue to leave on a high. Just look at our performances after Irvine left . Moyes was sussed as prem manager stale ,no bottle all the other reasons I have given above . Thanks Dave but even the board knew he was shot to pieces.
@@danielberry4765 just realized you don't even support West Ham but you think you know more about us . Bet you don't even know who irvine is don't run to Google now . Everyone wants to pop off ⚒️ should worry about your own clubs
Remember Charlton fans moaning Curbishley did boring football? Stoke fans that were not moving forward under Pulis? West ham fans don't remember that clearly. Were grotesquely ungrateful the past 3 years.
tell me you don't know anything about west ham, without telling me you don't know anything about west ham. We didn't force Moyes out because of the "boring football" that was a narrative entirely invented by his friends in the media. We wanted Moyes gone because: 1) he didn't play any of the talented youngsters we had at the club, we came top of the u21s, with one of the best youth teams in the country/world, yet they never recieved minutes and weren't given suitable loans. There were times when he brazenly threw cup games, eg away at Liverpool in the Caraboa cup, yet even then he would field aged squad players rather than the youngsters that needed minutes. This resulted in them leaving to rivals (e.g sonny perkins to leeds, Ashby to newcastle, Mubama to City, Johnson wherever he went). 2) He repeatedly ignored the sports science, particularly when it came to the use of substitutions, we conceded a disproportionately high number of goals in the last 15 minutes, an obvious explanation of which is that we gave substitutes some of the least minutes in the league, in spite of competing in Europe. Relatedly: 3)He repeatedly alluded to wanting a small squad, even though there was money there to spend he reportedly vetoed nearly all the players that our director of football attempted to sign, whilst simultaneously allowing players to leave, that's how we ended up with only 14 first team players left by the time we finally saw the back of him. 4)His man management was so poor, and the degree of favouritism so strong that there were rumours of players asking him how they could get in the team and him giving them 0 encouragement with a closed door policy. Even when players were having bad games, we would never, ever give the squad players a chance. Many of these players, eg: Haller, Hernandez, Flynn Downes.. etc have subsequently gone on to do well when they left. 5) the results in the league in the last 2 seasons were dreadful.. we came 14th in the season before last and last year there really was no improvement, we just got lucky in a few games, we conceded our worst ever number of premier league goals (over like 27 seasons we've been in the prem and INCLUDING the two times we were relegated). Looking at the expected points table we finished 14/15th (i forget which). Letting Moyes go was a totally obvious decision, he was AWFUL.
I would play Wan Bissaka at centre back... Wish United could have done that but this Pep Guardiola style of football is killing the game... Every manager is forced to play his way or they will be accused of being old fashioned 🥱🙄
Incredible how much was inaccurate during the opening statement.
West Ham did the majority of our business before the window started.
Saturday's team had 4 new signings not 7.
It was not the worst defensive performance during the last five years. That was Arsenal 6-0 or Fulham 5-0 last season.
There was a plea for Lopetegui to get time because he was a new manager and had new managers then a direct comparison was made to two other managers who are also new but don't seem to have struggled with new players or tactics.
Well put Gonzo
Gonzo🎉😅
Gonzo with a banger as usual
Feels weird looking at Jon without his glasses. 😂
Lopetegui lost to Chelsea and the entire English media turned on him 😂
He has had a good 45 mins in the job. Been shite.
Jon : ' The game against Chelsea was one the worst defensively in last 5 years'
Mate we literally lost last season 5-0 to Chelsea, 6-0 to Arsenal, 5-2 to Palace, 5-0 FUlham, 4-1 Aston Villa, 3 - 0 Manchester United with Moyes low block in charge.
Agenda clearly being pushed on Lopetegui since he came in. Moyes left the squad with terrible low morale. We just continued the form we had been left with in.
But its fine its only 5 games, Lopetegui will turn this around easily.
Yep it’s Moyes fault you lot piled on him as soon as he WON you a European trophy. Mad innit all that outside noise definitely had NO effect all on Moyes. It’s really special how poorly you treat him. Enjoy lopetegui ball 😂
Its hillarious fans wanted an attacking style but Lopetegui is just another european upgrade version of Moyes
A guy who takes a job at a club while on managerial duty with his country at the WC! And Milan fans revolted when he was mentioned as a possible managerial appt. That to me was not a good signing to replace Moyes.
He lefts wolves days before the start of the season.
This starts and ends at the feet of David Sullivan. Maybe you folks in the media can't say anything against ownership.??? It's understandable not to bite the hand that's feeding you. But while the club has an owner who CANNOT give up control to a director of football. Then nothing will change on and off the pitch. All the club has done is exchanged Moyes. For the Spanish Allardyce. All because the chairman has a good working relationship with said Manager agents. It's starts at the top. And the s**t trickles down.!
Exactly what West Ham fans deserve after the way they treated Moyes. Maybe there is some crazy issue with Todibo, but this was pretty clearly the BEST signing of the entire window for them and he hasn’t been given a single game. Mavropanos is only staring on a relegation candidate, which is how Ham look now. Fulkrug was also a WOEFUL signing.
Everyone always thinks they can do better than David Moyes, and then they find out the trurh
This what happens when you replace the Scottish David Moyes with the Spanish David Moyes.
On the plus side for West Ham, the Scottish David Moyes is available....
Least funny thing I have heard today 😊but with the poison dwarf in charge it's not impossible.@@captainhowdy9845
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@@captainhowdy9845I would rather get relegated
@captainhowdy9845 .. Yeah, cus nobody wants Moyes, that's why he's available and certainly not want at West Ham.
Lopetegui out NOW!!!!!!
The mess moyes left the club in is a big ask of any coach to turn around in a few games but that said dont think Loppi is the man he was not the vision Tim Stieden wanted like most fans but sullivan couldn't help himself and used his agent ,,mates,, and let them mess up D.O.F for the cheapest option.
Moyes was the best
As someone who watches a lot of the Brasileirao, Luis Guilherme for that was a complete fleece.
In a league where youngsters habitually announce themselves (Endrick, Gustavo Gomes, Estevao, Wesley), he figuratively never said a word.
@@PlayerAyte time will tell Chelsea let Declan Rice go and then he became our captain and put 105 million in the bank for West Ham ,now at Arsenal so time will tell
@@fredtraylen4311 that's totally different because Declan Rice was still regarded as a very promising English talent from an English academy, and went to an English team as an academy player. He was totally free.
Guilherme is one of the biggest risks I've ever seen in the PL. 30m for a South American talent that couldn't even crack a first team that has a longstanding history of kids breaking through is pretty mind-boggling.
Was so happy to see the end of the moyes era but it was tarnished by the appointment of Lopetegui who i viewed as a David Moyes on steroids. I still believe we have made a big mistake hiring him but I really hope to be proved wrong and see him become a success.
What is the "West Ham way"? No one seems to know!
They will figure it out in the championship
Who is this Benji guy? Where is Roshane?
Won the Europa with Saville, my grandma could do that with Saville !
A spoofer
Apologies, Sevilla FC , shabby spelling 😢
I swear Benji is just David Ornstein being bald.
He looks clueless.
Doesn't know his best side.
He doesn't know his best formation.
Doesn't get anything out of established stars or new signings.
Cant score from open play and have very few chances.
Leaks goals from a so called better defense.
Bought another old striker and not Toney or Duran.
Apart from that its great.
Oh add the fact that we are SO SLOW no legs no heads.
Bowen only seems to only look good counter attacking and is not a captain not a player to motivate those around him of take a game by the scruff.
Alvarez all day long a man who threatened to kill a Chelsea player in the car park!!!
The job, is not difficult at all, the problem is that he wants to shoe horn players in positions they don’t fit in.
WE are to slow a cross the grass.
Anyone with intelligence said this last year when Moyes was announced to leave. Fans just wanted some new and shiny, which is fine. But regardless of whether West Ham parks the bus, or tries a bit of tippy-tappy. They always be a club that'll fight for Europe and then drop to fight relegation in cycles. Because they're fundamentally not super rich, nor the most attractive club in London.
It's easy to go "careful what you wish for" etc etc. but a drop would've eventually happened under Moyes or any other manager. All that differs is the criticism.
Should go back to old podcast
What was that? I'm a new guy?
No, he's just not a very modern (or good) coach anymore.
Loppy needs a bit of time as the club has replaced over half of its team but one thing is for sure and that is that his team WILL NOT concede over 70 goals this season unlike the last bloke .... "I win ... that's what I do" 😳 .... "Be careful what you wish for" 🥱... "but ... but ... but he won you your first cup in 250 years" 🤡
We need a look into Steve Madley's description of what happened at the Manchester City vs Arsenal game. You have lost a fan if you have got people like him working in your organization.
Mediocre mid table team is in… mid table mediocrity 😱😱😱
Mediocre comment from a. Mediocre tobias😂
Flappy flapping at this stage of the season? Modern football is shit. Only TH-cam channels are worse. Where's the Carabaou fixed draw outrage? Loads of new players to adjust. Wrong choice of captain. Loppys level of English is appalling and he spouts inarticulate cliches. But id give him a bit more time before soiling my bloomers. And at least we have white socks again. Irons.
Lopetegui isn’t a good manager, not better than Moyes.
West Ham downgraded their manager but they’ll be playing “the West Ham way” in the bottom half.
@@danielberry4765 whoever took over from moyes is going to need a miracle the state he left the club in oldest slowest squad in prem that were not relegated that's fact stats most goals conceded apart from teams that went down man management a joke threw his toys out of the pram cos he wanted full control of transfers and everything . Then in winter window when still in with a chance of Europe and winning Europa League knocks back every single player except city reject ,,he is all I need ,, 😂🤣🤣 he said .
@@fredtraylen4311
Total nonsense.
European football in multiple seasons.
Winning their first trophy.
Nonnnnnsense.
@@danielberry4765 yes and fair play but as soon as Irvine left he had no clue it was so obvious the season we won in Prague until the players got together without moyes and decided to play their way we were heading 👇 down and the con cup European teams were not used to our style . That should of moyes cue to leave on a high. Just look at our performances after Irvine left . Moyes was sussed as prem manager stale ,no bottle all the other reasons I have given above . Thanks Dave but even the board knew he was shot to pieces.
Moyes is in the top three West Ham managers of all time.
@@danielberry4765 just realized you don't even support West Ham but you think you know more about us . Bet you don't even know who irvine is don't run to Google now . Everyone wants to pop off ⚒️ should worry about your own clubs
The only time my neighbors think I have a wild night is when my cat knocks over a plant✨
OK.👍.
Remember Charlton fans moaning Curbishley did boring football? Stoke fans that were not moving forward under Pulis?
West ham fans don't remember that clearly. Were grotesquely ungrateful the past 3 years.
tell me you don't know anything about west ham, without telling me you don't know anything about west ham.
We didn't force Moyes out because of the "boring football" that was a narrative entirely invented by his friends in the media. We wanted Moyes gone because:
1) he didn't play any of the talented youngsters we had at the club, we came top of the u21s, with one of the best youth teams in the country/world, yet they never recieved minutes and weren't given suitable loans. There were times when he brazenly threw cup games, eg away at Liverpool in the Caraboa cup, yet even then he would field aged squad players rather than the youngsters that needed minutes. This resulted in them leaving to rivals (e.g sonny perkins to leeds, Ashby to newcastle, Mubama to City, Johnson wherever he went).
2) He repeatedly ignored the sports science, particularly when it came to the use of substitutions, we conceded a disproportionately high number of goals in the last 15 minutes, an obvious explanation of which is that we gave substitutes some of the least minutes in the league, in spite of competing in Europe. Relatedly:
3)He repeatedly alluded to wanting a small squad, even though there was money there to spend he reportedly vetoed nearly all the players that our director of football attempted to sign, whilst simultaneously allowing players to leave, that's how we ended up with only 14 first team players left by the time we finally saw the back of him.
4)His man management was so poor, and the degree of favouritism so strong that there were rumours of players asking him how they could get in the team and him giving them 0 encouragement with a closed door policy. Even when players were having bad games, we would never, ever give the squad players a chance. Many of these players, eg: Haller, Hernandez, Flynn Downes.. etc have subsequently gone on to do well when they left.
5) the results in the league in the last 2 seasons were dreadful.. we came 14th in the season before last and last year there really was no improvement, we just got lucky in a few games, we conceded our worst ever number of premier league goals (over like 27 seasons we've been in the prem and INCLUDING the two times we were relegated). Looking at the expected points table we finished 14/15th (i forget which).
Letting Moyes go was a totally obvious decision, he was AWFUL.
Comparing west ham to Charlton and stoke 🤣what would you have us do? Give Moyes a contract for life?
My bed has seen more Netflix than action lately, and that's perfectly okay🍒
I would play Wan Bissaka at centre back...
Wish United could have done that but this Pep Guardiola style of football is killing the game... Every manager is forced to play his way or they will be accused of being old fashioned 🥱🙄
Hes positioning is crap so no u can't play him at cb lol
@@SleekMack pep is killing the game, only Sleek Mack can save football now by putting Wan Bissaka at CB