Greatly Appreciate your help (1 week dasher here...). One thing, at least for a vehicle owner, since a dasher is an independent contractor --- keep a mileage log. Can take mileage reimbursement from the IRS when you do your taxes. Again, really great content and helpful!!!
Doordash will actually send you a mileage report for the previous year. I think I got my last year report around the end of February. Was super cool of them😁
@warrencadle2102 doordash only includes your mileage for time spent travelling to and from locations. It doesn't include the time you drove home or to another location in which still counts as business costs and will end up overlooked if you don't track it yourself
@@scottcameron924you’re right, same with Insta Cart. Only miles from store to drop house, not even drive back. Don’t be lazy, keep a log! 60 cents a mile adds up fast. I did a total not worth it 20 mile delivery once but that adds up to 12 bucks
This applies more to people in suburban/rural markets but I think it's also important to remember that not all miles are the same. I have a stretch of highway near one of my restaurant pockets and I'll take longer mileage orders if it's going up the highway, because I can knock out a 5 mile order in like 10 minutes. But if I go the other way through town with a bunch of traffic lights then 5 miles can be 20 minutes just getting there.
100% Time of day is a HUGE factor too, that 4.5 miles might take 20 minutes at 9pm(no traffic) but double that at 5:30pm, BIG difference! Seattle really sucks for that! "Diamond" orders are usually laughable during traffic time.
@@oliferous Absolutely, I actually sometimes take a break during the 5-6 pm rush hour because traffic is horrendous at that time, that time is oversaturated with too many dashers so I don't always get many worthwhile orders, plus every restaurant is busy and you're almost guaranteed to be waiting at the restaurant around that time. I usually start getting my best orders around 7 pm because people start ordering pizzas and they usually tip well for short mileage.
I have a 2022 Honda Trail 125 that I am excited about using when the weather gets better. 158 miles a gallon😁. I started in January with DD. Made Top Dasher for April. I like the training the algorithm by putting on pause and going back to your area. I started doing that just a couple days ago so you cemented that decision for me. Love the electric bike as well. Thankyou
The reason you make $2k a week is because you're in California with that prop 22 supplement. Come to Orlando using the same strategies tips and tricks and I guarantee you won't make anywhere close to what you make on the west coast. In fact I'll reimburse your flight, hotel, meals, rental car if you can.
6:34 - Important to note that sometimes the app un pauses you a few seconds after delivery. It has happened to me a few times. Just something to monitor in case it happens, but I do agreeing on pausing if you're too far away. No one wants to continuously get pushed away out of the zones they want to work in.
I honestly never thought of pausing my orders after delivery if the drop off is outside my pickup zone. It would definitely help not getting orders I know I won't take on the way back. When it comes to using the "Order still being prepared" etc options when you get to stores, the most useful aspect of it is protecting your Dasher rating if a customer gives you a low score because you were late. If this happens and you selected one of the options about waiting at the store, DD will negate that rating. I would also like to add, it's important to know when your zone is busy. Some places, only one or two prime times are actually busy (breakfast, lunch, dinner). Trying to dash during lunch when the town you're in is much more dinner-heavy would only be a waste of time. It's important to match your zone to its busy times. I live in a rural area, lots of small towns scattered around, so it's good to know the options and optimize the time.
Great to hear from you, was wondering where you've been! I've been dashing for a bit over 4 months. Your videos helped a lot to get me started off right. Speaking of hybrids, I have needed a new vehicle and decided on a '23 Corolla Hybrid. Arrives in a few weeks, think it will be amazing for dashing. I don't want to be dependent on plugs/electricity, just want great mileage with gas so this is the car for me!
@@justgiggingit That's incredible. I have a 2021 Honda Civic hatchback, and it averages about 30. I bought it just so I could dash, so I'm not concerned about the mileage; it's a work car.
I've tested all the programs and I agree with pretty much everything you said. A few things to add: 1) the most important factor to how well you will do is your market. No strategy will help you in an oversaturated, bad market. 2) if you look at your stats no matter what week I almost always average $9-$11 a delivery. This would indicate getting orders delivered quicker and just constantly being busy will smooth the variance of good/bad offers sent by the algorithm with enough volume. 3) the end goal of DD is to make it acceptance rate matter. They don't want people cherry picking good offers as they need those offers to "average" out the bad ones to get an hourly rate that's acceptable to drivers. Hence the stacking offers we are seeing more and more of.
💯 exactly correct. The DD algorithm tries to stack offers and vector orders in the same direction for a single dasher. So by accepting a trash order you are more likely to get a banger.
@@Thecomedian00 yea, if you're in a good market you will make money no matter what you do. For So Cal I think most of the markets just outside the mega cities is the best. Less traffic, less dashers, and more suburbs with richer families.
You’re supposed to have a “food handlers permit” to handle open containers. Them giving you a cup to fill up is an open container. They hand you bags all sealed up…. the cup should be to. You don’t have a food handlers permit. They do. Let em know
I’ve noticed when I deliver orders quicker than normal, it will throw me better orders and will keep me busy up until I get that one McDonald’s order where I have to wait 20 minutes. Then the rest of the orders are kind of trash after that
I love how the store doesn’t get the food to me till 8 min after it was Ready For P/U and I’m the one who gets the LATE tag on my profile. That’s one of the best parts of DD. And the customer is allowed to rate me Late
@@BestDasherAlive I was caught in accident aftermath traffic jam They tried to violate me Uh no U have a gps - u can seeeee it I got out AND did a detour finallyyy Dang right I was late to store!! 🤦♀️
The AR kills me. I stay 43-51% but these offers are like 10 mi for $4. Im doing this to make money not for charity delivery. Some offers are flat out theft from us. I can't say accept.
10 miles doesn’t sound bad but a rule of thumb is that you multiply miles times2-3, which makes 10 miles 20-30 minutes. Definitely not worth 4 bucks. I’m doing Instacart and it’s not worth it when it’s that many miles. I feel your pain! It is a service to people but we gotta make money to survive
@@P-Rob-LuvGodI just started door dash today and seen a few of these. 10-14 miles for around $5-$6. It’s barely breaking even for gas (unless you have a hybrid like me) but that’s a good half hour of time.
@@Davinn I just started DoorDash about 3 weeks ago. Definitely better than Instacart imo. Some days and shifts are great, sometimes you come home and say, man! I started out taking almost every offer. Usually the 2-4 dollar ones that are within 5 miles or so. In just 3 weeks, I put in a good amount of time and worked up to top dasher, platinum status… the offers have definitely gotten better but they still sneak some sorry ones in. You do have to work through the dirt to get better status and offers. I’m overall liking it as a side gig but a lot of driving
Another important note… keep track of all your miles, car expenses even insurance. To my understanding, come tax time, it is about 60 cents per mile. That should make the money you earn, virtually tax free. I’m averaging 19-30 bucks an hour. I’ve noticed Thursday to Sunday nights are most profitable. Schedule early to claim those times. I do 4-8 pm
I’ve been DD in Vegas for over a year, and have averaged $100/day for 8+hrs after putting $20 in gas. Only once a week will I make $120+ in less than 8 hrs. I cherry pick for at least $1/mi unless I’m desperate. I average 2 orders/hr mostly at $7 for 5 mi. I’ve racked up 50k mi in a year. Idk what I’m doing wrong, but DD overall is not worth it.
Completely not worth it It’s a great biz model For The COMPANY I’m disabled so can’t stand on my feet the whole shift so my car takes the beating for me
i have been handed a cup to fill at taco bell and i straight told the guy, i am not a customer i am a delivery person i dont do filling cups. he immediately filled it put a lid on it and handed it to me.
I used to work for a delivery app where I was an actual employee and made $12/hr plus tips. There was a Qdoba who would always do try to make us fill cups. The other drivers apparently would just do it. I refused. The after about 3-4 times of me refusing, the manager yelled in my face so i just calmly walked out and reported a saftey issue. I was not about to fight or get upset in any way over a drink. The manager then called my company and tried to get me fired, but the company turned off their tablet for deliveries until they agreed to train their employees that we are not to handle food. I miss being an employee and working for that company. I should have never stopped and moved. I'm thankful for the opportunity to doordash now, but I made much better money back then compared to doordash. Probably double.
I normally take my dash bag into the restaurant - if for no other reason, so employees can flag me and know to ask for the pick up name. Almost never have to say a word.
The McDonald's here will have my order ready 10 mins before the app tells me to pick up, so A. It's cooling down and B. I literally almost have to climb over the window to flag someone down. It's pssing me off
new DD here! Thanks for all the awesome tips! My app does not give me the option to give a reason for decline...wondering if it's more beneficial to let an offer time out?
I had one Dasher get salty when I "cut" the line. I explained how I was a food delivery driver, and he said so was he! I just looked at him like he was the dumbest SOB on the planet. Your customer already ordered and pays high fees plus your tip. They are paying for you to get their food to them as fast as possible. PERIOD.
I stay in the I.E. and had stopped doing door dash because it seemed too saturated in my region. But after seeing your video I may take another look at it. You speak facts! Especially on the open container piece. 🙏👏
I tried Door dash. The first two weeks I averaged $25 an hour because they were trying to get me hooked. The next three months I averaged $17.50 an hour. Long wait times at restaurants, drives that left me 15 minutes away any deliveries. I quit!!
@@BestDasherAlivemy first weeks were great Then BS orders I only do it becuz I’m disabled. I’m ruining my car n making $10-15 an hr. $15 an hr is a real good day
Well trial and error and I think you’re right about taking sometimes the smaller ones that they end up sending you a stocked order and better ones but last night I guess I’m strategizing right now because I just started in April 2023 and yeah you have a good point there so you got a find your balance in the economy you’re working in… Yeah, lot of good tips. Thank you so much.
I'm just accepting everything until i can get to platinum status where i can dash even when it's not busy, then I'm going to be more picky with the orders i get cuz i won't be constrained by their time slots.. depending on the night, even dashing for only a couple hours, i can average between 20-30$/ hr. I live in a slightly urban area, not a huge city but big enough to where it can get pretty busy on nights, weekends or inclement weather
@@BestDasherAlive well, as I can only really dash on the weekends (when I'm not working my normal job), it's taking a little while to get to 100... But I'll get there eventually 😂
You know, with Instacart I was a little frustrated with all the bad offers but it completely makes sense. Most companies you have to work your way up! I haven’t started dashing yet but I’m ready to do time in trench of the Golden Arches
BDA!! Dude, did the PD that town posted your bike on FB? I saw this within the last two weeks. And I was like WTF happen to BDA? Glad to see you are still slaying it.
I live in central/north Mississippi which only has small cities/towns that does DoorDash only a small percentage. I just started about 2 1/2 weeks ago and just now able to do it on my days I don’t have dialysis because the car was down.
I have to say everyone says this "AR" matters, or your whole completion matter's. Here in Michigan, it doesn't matter. I still make more than most of the dashers in less hours. My AR is 54 completion is 87. I work 15-20 hrs a week and make around $600/wk
@@augustuslxiii it's honestly a mixed bag, there is a little city. But lots of farm land. It's almost 50/50 TBH. So you gotta pick and choose or get screwed
Dude... here in Dothan Alabama you can bust your butt, running all day and make maybe $50. Alabama has no minimum wage which is only a thing to help companies keep wages extremely low... that puts it in everyone's head that $8 per hour is livable, "good" money and people tip here using that fed $7.35 per hour as a baseline. Not only that but companies like Door Dash and Uber Eats base pay using that. The new "hourly" pay never goes higher than $13-$14; and being a smaller town you run long distances for deliveries. I got a delivery yesterday that had me in town traffic for 10 minutes..had to wait at the store for the food, then run 7 miles out of town to delivery then all the way back to "hot spot " and it only paid $5.50 plus customer didn't tip extra. This is the $h-it that we have here.... any tips for this area other than starve? I'd LOVE to hear some... I'll wait.
Man. This video came up in the algorithm and this was insane watching this. I drive fulltime and I used to be a really big cherry picker. I still do, but over time I've seen some changes on DoorDash. Originally when I first started it was just a fucking joke on this app to make money compared to others in my market. I unfortunately do believe that DoorDash has gotten more market share where I am, but I've had a theory for a while now that all of the apps now just send you more orders the more you accept. I talk with other drivers in my zone and they're all on the catering list and it's always feast or famine with them. I remember one day this guy told me he made $103 in like 14 hours. Then come weekends he'll sit here and tell me about how he got all these high paying orders and makes like $350 in a day (this is kinda insane for my market most drivers average about $150 in 8 hours I feel is pretty common since all zones are different and I have talked with multiple drivers and we all end up at this mark seemingly so there is a consistency here.) I remember going for Top Dasher and it did make a difference. I was getting prioritized some orders while sitting with that dude even though my stats are slightly worse except for AR. I really started noticing that when the diamond program rolled around that I really sat here one day and was like "you know what I feel like this app is more fair now." I noticed literally allll of the things you said in this video. Felt like I was listening to myself lol. ESPECIALLY that stacked order thing. I never see stacked orders on DoorDash really anymore, but I will usually see one if I am sitting at a restaurant or on the way to one. I defnitely have noticed that whole telling DD what's going on thing does sometimes yeah send you orders have noticed that too. I haven't really tested it much, but I did kind of notice that taking small orders out of the zone I feel like more often than not I actually did get an offer or a bigger offer even at that coming back. Matter of fact I can distinctly remember one night I finally gave DD a chance and sure it wasn't always like this, but I took an order going out of the zone I want to say maybe like.. $10 for 8 miles or something maybe less pay idk I was testing the theory, and then after I was finished with that order I immediately got a $6.25 offer from this sushi place I never picked up from going like 3 miles in the direction of where I usually go. I just said "sure why not" and it ended up being $17.25. I was kind of blown away in that moment. Got like another $15 right after when I got back to my zone going 5 miles I think. That same night I took like a taco bell order I think it was $9.25 or something going 5 miles. Not great but it was slow and it wasn't bad either though. Just a meh order, but then right as I was on the way they had ordered again from like 711 I think it was an additional $5 on top of it. When you order through the app too it gives you like a 5 minute window to order from somewhere else and it'll send that same order to the driver who already has your first order. If that driver for whatever reason declines it then I guess it gets sent to another driver. I'm not gonna like sit here and simp for DoorDash either though because just today I got sent like a $3.25 order for 17 miles which is just stupid, but I also think that too many drivers fearmonger too and think DoorDash is out here to get them. DoorDash isn't stupid they're a really smart company, and they know that if drivers aren't happy they're not going to be delivering orders. I think they're at least trying to be more fair. Especially with the new tier system rolling around it'll really be interesting to see how things are in the future for sure. Anyways yeah great video this has really just kind of validated my thought process as well that someone else has noticed this!
Living in Australia ive had plenty of orders where they just give me a drink like a coffee from some small businesses with a pin in the lid and no bag at all. Its annoying because the only place i can put it is in my own cupholder
5:51 i raised by ar from 60% to 90% to see what would happen. Absolutely nothing. Actually making a little less. And another thing i noticed is that if you decline once it drops your rating 1% and it takes about accepting 10 just to raise it up that 1% you lost, ridiculous. Ive talked to a few dashers in my area and in the past 2 weeks we have started receiving lower offers for all the restaurants. Not sure whats going on there. It sucks to have to accept a $6 oder for 6 miles and 3 of those miles are down a muddy dirt road.
13:04 omg I have a screen door that swings out and I put it in the notes and drivers leave my drinks in front of the door. I have to wait for a neighbor to walk by to help me 😞
Also this morning decided to work a different day when i had appt on the side of town where I generally dash (better tips)... rather than today... and forgot to cancel today til 5 mins after shift began... hoping they won't send me back to the principal's office. Thoughts? Experience? today
@@BestDasherAlive 💭🤔🧐🤨...idk why , you call yourself, should I say your Name Is 'Best DASSSHER Alive' ... ironically it's a Nay, would think 💬 it's a Yay
Refusing orders will get you below 70% and you lose “dash anytime”. When that happens, I’m totally fucked for the month and can barely get on enough to get the 100 orders required for “top dasher” for the following month. Is it just super easy to get on in your area? Here, if you’re not on top, it’s grey-all-day.
CR 100% matters now btw. Doordash is prioritizing people who have 100% CR cause they want to make sure you wont drop the order so they will always send to the dasher who has the best CR. Along with 70%+ AR etc
Oh wow now that I’ve never had that done where they had me a cup to fill up a drink or scoop food never wow but that’s a good tip so if I’m ever told to do that I’ll say I don’t have a food handlers permit. I’m sorry I’m not authorize for that. Thanks again and have a great tip that I didn’t know.
@@chuckschickbaldtacos --According to SB 602, all waitstaff, cooks, bussers, bartenders, hostesses handling food, and beverage pourers must have the card. Although this is a state requirement, some California counties, including Riverside, San Bernardino, and San Diego, have separate food safety card programs.Feb 9, 2022
You do know that using E-Bikes and E-cars still dive into your costs, right? Just because it switched from the gas pump to your electrical outlet doesn't really mean it's going to be cheaper. If you want to do it right, you'd have to write off some if your electric bill.
Yeah DD needs to bring up the acceptance rate for platinum Dasher. Having it low makes it too easy for anybody to be top dasher and get the good orders with you which makes it almost not worth it to be a top dasher because it's over saturated
@@BestDasherAlive idk how there algorithm is working it now. But anybody can get 70% for platinum. A lot of people won't stay about 80-85% that's why I think you should only be playing if you're above 80-85. Because before this platinum thing I was getting orders left and right at this certain high value place. Now everybody is sitting there waiting on orders because the AG let's everybody get great orders from the area 🫤
Do you recommend a certain e-bike model or type? I’m looking around for one I’m currently using my 2019 Honda Civic to deliver but sometimes would like a bike to save on some costs if possible
Interesting that a lot of your experiences lines up with other big content creators i've seen, but really cool to see for first time someone else noticing the pause after drop off trick to help algorithm learn. I've been doing that for months now but wasn't sure if it was working, seemed to, nice to hear from a way more experienced Dasher with way more hours that i wasn't in fact being a complete fool. I just started doing it because i was tanking AR way too hard if i didn't, some areas i would rather just leave to the locals, app will start repeatedly taking me way too far one direction out of zone if I don't do anything about it. Left it unattended while taking every order before and i've ended up two zones away from where i was trying to dash.
I just got my acceptance rate all the way back up to 100% for the 2nd time within 3,000 total dashes. It's definitely an emotional roller-coaster of highs and lows to achieve.
How about a motorcycle? Does 55 mpg cut it? What about buying a set of $500 tires every 10K miles? Will the fuel savings even that out? It's not legal to lane split or filter in my state. Will it be worth it to do those things anyway?
If you schedule dashes ahead of time and then for some reason can’t do it, how do you cancel? & are you penalized in any way if you do cancel or can’t do the full amount of time scheduled
Did DD really come snooping? Man I regret updating recently but I wasnt getting many orders til I updated. It seems like the 50% AR threshold is way more relevant now too. I usually hover in the 52% area because I refuse to take no tip orders, but if im ever under 50 I def see a difference. Thanks for the new tips, your hustle is inspirational homie.
You have to treat DD like you are a business and not like you are an employee. I have had no issues keeping my AR 70-80%, but I also don't have a flat rule against non-tippers because I know it will break me before I break society. If DD gives me 4 dollars to pick up from a nearby place and will only have to go a few blocks to drop it off, I will pick it up, assuming the place is a store I need to know is slow as fk to make orders. I know I lose money on any order below a dollar per mile, so that is my only always, so there is no rule. I also have an MBA and know that there are two factors you need to consider, mileage and time. If you cherry-pick and get one excellent order in an hour but turn down what could have been two to three good orders because they were not high enough, you could be losing money cherry-picking because of opportunity cost. You are best served by looking for a more situational evaluation because the one thing you want to avoid is downtime. If you do a 10-hour dash and make the same money you would be making working at a decent service job for 10 hours, you are actually losing money. Why? Because you are paying for gas, car depreciation, and payroll tax since this is paid by the business. If you can get a 15-an-hour job in your area but are dashing and not making 20 an hour, you are losing money with your plan because you would have been better off at the job. So please go evaluate your rules because if they are not landing you 25% more an hour than you would get working a job, you are losing money. I have over 1400 deliveries so far, so I have gotten good at perfecting my rules, and no rule is perfect for every area. But know, no tip, no trip, can fk you if DD will pay you a decent payout to pick it up, as it hurts your AR and keeps you on downtime, which is an opportunity cost factor.
@@wvance0316when ur body is wrecked, ur car does the work instead That’s y I DD. I can’t handle being on my feet 6 hrs straight then again 2-4 hrs before shift is over. Plus lifting heavy etc. So making the same is ok becuz the other option is zero $ per hr 🤷🏼♀️
@@gena4638 Find out what your DD base pay per order is in your market. Average is usually like 2.50 to 3.00 with a little added on top for distance if its a good far run. When you get an offer, deduct the DD base pay in your head, and the rest of the offer is what the customer tipped. If you get offers that are like 5.00 for 10 miles then you know they didnt tip. Or even 3.00 on 5 miles. Thats not a tip, just base. No tip, no accept bro.
Could I still consider using an ebike for the small city side? I wanna get one but I dunno whats fast for the mileage. Some ebikes only go up to 20mph and some go to 28mph. Is any 20mph ebike still ok to use?
i just did 8 dashes in 3 hours made 30$ but probably broke even after gas and lunch. idk how your throwing out this many orders. ill sit there sometimes at a hotspot and watch other doordash ppl pull up next to me walk in and get an order. i really need money even if i make half of what you make.
I have 100% completion rate. 89% acceptance. 5 star rating. Yet I get trash orders. How do I fix it?? I have made so many calls to see why this is happening. But nothing works. Literally on verge of quitting. It’s my main hustle tho. Please reply! I cant decline the bad ones to keep acceptance good. And accepting bad ones only lead me to have nothing in the end. I only got 2 orders out of 247 life time delivery over 12 dollars. Max I got was for $16. What am I doing wrong? 8 hours of work and barely a $100/day. Please reply😭
Your videos are always super informative! I've been doing DD on and off for over 2 years and I still continue to learn new things when I watch your channel. How many hours on average do you work per week to hit $2k? And, do you use a dash cam/body cam while delivering?
I'm on a 150cc scooter helps a ton with gas prices but I still plan on getting an ebike I once delivered an empty cup from taco bell because they absolutely refused to make the drink after I said I'm dirty I ride a motorcycle I have cuts on my hands
I started driving recently and like your videos, but Im not sure I believe that they prioritize the way most people think they do.The main objective of these apps is to get the delivery to the customer as quickly as possible. The last thing they want is someones food sitting there getting cold or a customer waiting 45 minutes for their dinner. They will probably never use that app again. So having said that, if the driver with a low acceptance rate is within a mile of a restaurant and a "top Dasher" is more like 3-5 miles out, guess who's getting that order? These apps are heavily weighted towards who is in the closest proximity to the pickup. That is their top priority and why you saw no real difference between acceptance rates.
@@BestDasherAlive so you think DD is going to send an order to a driver 3 miles from a pickup over someone in the same parking lot just over acceptance rates? As you know, it can take you 20 minutes to go 3 miles in OC/LA. DD prioritizes time, that’s why they have the pickup by clock and rate you on early or on time pickups. As I said, their top priority is getting an order to the customer as quickly as possible.
@michaelbell75 It definitely prioritizes the top dasher. I've been sent high pay orders when I'm miles and miles outside the zone in the middle of nowhere and the order is located in an area where it's very busy and there are lots of dashers around.
Doordash appears from what most can tell and my own experience to be the most algorithm heavy, which can become a good thing but causes some pain until you and it reach a agreement, or in other words until you train it well while meeting the qualifications its hoping for.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah that is what I thought until I learned the power of saying no to it with a high AR earned on EBT. If you can keep your stats up and still say no when you need to it will gift you strings of very high pay offers. Importantly it doesn't seem to learn forever, probably runs off reflection of the rolling 100, which in retrospect is a good thing, and it learns locally so if you do too many zones it's harder to manage but it definitely does respond to you telling it what offers you deem acceptable
Lol it was 14 degrees here yesterday, even without the crap weather I don't live in a big enough city and the area is way too big for an E-bike 😂 know your own area, don't just listen to others who don't live in your area...
Well, when I go into a restaurant with my bag and everything else I cut through the crowd and I got skews me sorry I just haven’t ordered and they can see I’m DoorDash in or whatever so I’ve never had any very rude with me. Because technically, when we got to pick up an order, the order should actually be ready, but I have to wait nothing but quite a few restaurants I guess they know a little bit about it waiting more than five minutes they’re offering me a pop, some food, you know, etc. But honestly, I would just rather get my food faster. I just get out of there and get moving. Lol
Where the heck do you find those cheap rentals? I can't find anything that cheap here in Houston, TX. Even a tiny Chevy Spark is running $40/day here on that app 🤔
I just checked Houston on Turo and you can land the same pricing. You gotta schedule out a week+ in advance then it gives you an early booking discount
As far as going to the front of the line I've noticed this. Before I did this I purchased all my gear I have my doordash bags I have my Uber eats bags etc I walk in. I have the bag ready at chest height. They see the bag they recognize the green or Red. I've noticed others hanging around to the side looking at the phone cuz they an offer. I get dirty looks all the time from them. I get taken care of almost all the time in fact in front of people who are ordering. Very simply good evening good afternoon whatever it is very polite I'm extremely friendly. Very clearly spoken hi good afternoon I have a dual dash here for . Jim thank you very much. They'll grab the item if it's ready if not I will find out it's only going to be a minute or two they will look for me right away and again I have seen this happen all the time so spend the 20 bucks to get the bag. I'm in the Boston area I don't know if this makes any difference in other places but it works here
Also bike delivery depends on the market and where you at! Try somewhere else and you will a make 1/3rd of that! Better yet we all come to your market on bikes and dip in on that pool, especially with my stats 10k deliveries in past 2 years, 4.95 customer rating, 100% C.R. And 95 A.R. 🤭 your $2k a month will be less and less each week
Good video, I have a question I want to start DDing, but I just want to do an order or maybe 2 a day, probably not even every day. I know you mentioned the acceptance rate, and not being able to decline anymore. If you can't decline how would that work if somebody just wanted to do maybe a single delivery? I understand not accepting the orders will lower you. But I'd be fine hopping on my electric scooter and doing 1-2 orders. If DD doesn't allow declines I'm confused about how that would work though. I know a person can't accept every single order that comes in. But will DD even allow me to keep doing it if I only accept like 1 or 2 out of 100 orders? I don't care if I only make $10-20. I'm just looking for a tiny thing to do where I could make $100 a week with around an hour a day. And thanks for the backpack video, I'll be ordering that setup if after reading more I figure out if DDing 1 or 2 orders a day is even something you can do.
May be better for you to just start and try it out to see if DD works for you. Most areas are no SoCal, yet there is a plethora of advice online from people working the SoCal regions to doordash in and their advice just doesn't add up to a lot of the country unless there are high income areas in cities set up for easy access to restaurants etc. What he said in the vid here is that the 'decline options' are gone. You can still decline an order, but now they don't always care why you are declining, app just nags you over your acceptance rate (some places don't even get that and your rate might tank quickly if you aren't checking it).
Hello ,I don't understand what is going on with me and Doordash in my area. I keep hearing how you can 200 to 250 a day.I live in a very busy area with a ton of restaurants . I tried a week of lunch and dinner and its pathetic ! I have not made more than 40 dollars a day ! Any suggestions of what the heck is going on !?
Great video! I am actually going to get started out on Uber Eats and/or Grubhub delivery while I begin my classes this fall! Can't do DD because I got no DL yet :/. I'll be saving up for the next few weeks at my job before my last day for a new ebike so I don't need to worry about taking my surron to San Clemente🤣
I tell them it's their job to prepare the order, my job is to deliver a prepared order. If they object or want to argue "the others do it" I'll usually leave and reassign unless they're clearly very busy, short handed and ask me to help them out. When they just shove an empty cup at me that's completely disrespectful and I ain't putting up with it. Most have now learned but I still get one or two occasionally.
Can’t handle open containers without a food handlers permit. Open cup is an open container. You can’t handle it as a dasher because you don’t have food handlers permit. Restaurant must handle it because they have food handlers permits and must hand you sealed containers/bags for you to deliver
Greatly Appreciate your help (1 week dasher here...). One thing, at least for a vehicle owner, since a dasher is an independent contractor --- keep a mileage log. Can take mileage reimbursement from the IRS when you do your taxes. Again, really great content and helpful!!!
Doordash will actually send you a mileage report for the previous year. I think I got my last year report around the end of February. Was super cool of them😁
@warrencadle2102 doordash only includes your mileage for time spent travelling to and from locations. It doesn't include the time you drove home or to another location in which still counts as business costs and will end up overlooked if you don't track it yourself
@@scottcameron924you’re right, same with Insta Cart. Only miles from store to drop house, not even drive back. Don’t be lazy, keep a log! 60 cents a mile adds up fast. I did a total not worth it 20 mile delivery once but that adds up to 12 bucks
This applies more to people in suburban/rural markets but I think it's also important to remember that not all miles are the same. I have a stretch of highway near one of my restaurant pockets and I'll take longer mileage orders if it's going up the highway, because I can knock out a 5 mile order in like 10 minutes. But if I go the other way through town with a bunch of traffic lights then 5 miles can be 20 minutes just getting there.
Very true. Not all miles are the same
100% Time of day is a HUGE factor too, that 4.5 miles might take 20 minutes at 9pm(no traffic) but double that at 5:30pm, BIG difference! Seattle really sucks for that! "Diamond" orders are usually laughable during traffic time.
True. Rush hour/when school gets out can make certain routes much longer
@@oliferous Absolutely, I actually sometimes take a break during the 5-6 pm rush hour because traffic is horrendous at that time, that time is oversaturated with too many dashers so I don't always get many worthwhile orders, plus every restaurant is busy and you're almost guaranteed to be waiting at the restaurant around that time. I usually start getting my best orders around 7 pm because people start ordering pizzas and they usually tip well for short mileage.
i concur, nothing feels better than screaming down the road with an order at 70mph cuz you can
I have a 2022 Honda Trail 125 that I am excited about using when the weather gets better. 158 miles a gallon😁. I started in January with DD. Made Top Dasher for April. I like the training the algorithm by putting on pause and going back to your area. I started doing that just a couple days ago so you cemented that decision for me.
Love the electric bike as well. Thankyou
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I'm in Vermont delivering on my 2021 Honda trail. 💪
The reason you make $2k a week is because you're in California with that prop 22 supplement. Come to Orlando using the same strategies tips and tricks and I guarantee you won't make anywhere close to what you make on the west coast. In fact I'll reimburse your flight, hotel, meals, rental car if you can.
2k/wk dashing and you think I need your reimburse? 💸🫠
@@BestDasherAlive the air would sooner turn to gold than you’d make $2000 on an e-bike in Orlando 🤣
I’d bring the dawgs out and still make 2k in Orlando 🦶🚶🏻♂️
@@BestDasherAlive nope. Impossible. Not all markets are created equal.
@@BestDasherAliveThen let's see it
6:34 - Important to note that sometimes the app un pauses you a few seconds after delivery. It has happened to me a few times. Just something to monitor in case it happens, but I do agreeing on pausing if you're too far away. No one wants to continuously get pushed away out of the zones they want to work in.
I honestly never thought of pausing my orders after delivery if the drop off is outside my pickup zone. It would definitely help not getting orders I know I won't take on the way back.
When it comes to using the "Order still being prepared" etc options when you get to stores, the most useful aspect of it is protecting your Dasher rating if a customer gives you a low score because you were late. If this happens and you selected one of the options about waiting at the store, DD will negate that rating.
I would also like to add, it's important to know when your zone is busy. Some places, only one or two prime times are actually busy (breakfast, lunch, dinner). Trying to dash during lunch when the town you're in is much more dinner-heavy would only be a waste of time. It's important to match your zone to its busy times. I live in a rural area, lots of small towns scattered around, so it's good to know the options and optimize the time.
My man! Welcome back, I dash full time in SoCal too and I have good results as well. Keep making the content G.
It’s a good place to dash!
4 to 6 hours or do you have to do more in order to make it worth it? I'm in San Diego, thanks!
Great to hear from you, was wondering where you've been! I've been dashing for a bit over 4 months. Your videos helped a lot to get me started off right. Speaking of hybrids, I have needed a new vehicle and decided on a '23 Corolla Hybrid. Arrives in a few weeks, think it will be amazing for dashing. I don't want to be dependent on plugs/electricity, just want great mileage with gas so this is the car for me!
Will be great for dashing
I get 62mpg in my hybrid.
@@justgiggingitwhat car ? I just got a accord 2023 hybrid sport and im averaging 35 mpg
@@joshua0459 Corolla Hybrid. There's a short video on my channel where I show my average for any given day.
@@justgiggingit That's incredible. I have a 2021 Honda Civic hatchback, and it averages about 30. I bought it just so I could dash, so I'm not concerned about the mileage; it's a work car.
I've tested all the programs and I agree with pretty much everything you said. A few things to add:
1) the most important factor to how well you will do is your market. No strategy will help you in an oversaturated, bad market.
2) if you look at your stats no matter what week I almost always average $9-$11 a delivery. This would indicate getting orders delivered quicker and just constantly being busy will smooth the variance of good/bad offers sent by the algorithm with enough volume.
3) the end goal of DD is to make it acceptance rate matter. They don't want people cherry picking good offers as they need those offers to "average" out the bad ones to get an hourly rate that's acceptable to drivers. Hence the stacking offers we are seeing more and more of.
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💯 exactly correct. The DD algorithm tries to stack offers and vector orders in the same direction for a single dasher. So by accepting a trash order you are more likely to get a banger.
Yup! the market you drive in everything.
To me it all depends on the market.
@@Thecomedian00 yea, if you're in a good market you will make money no matter what you do. For So Cal I think most of the markets just outside the mega cities is the best. Less traffic, less dashers, and more suburbs with richer families.
Someone tell Wingstop to fill their drinks. I can't stand picked up there. Food is never ready and the pop machine is often not even working properly.
You’re supposed to have a “food handlers permit” to handle open containers. Them giving you a cup to fill up is an open container. They hand you bags all sealed up…. the cup should be to. You don’t have a food handlers permit. They do. Let em know
It's called soda you maniac. lol
Just had this happen yesterday. Guy was like fill their drinks yourself. So I did of course.
@NorthpoleCDS you don’t have a food handlers permit you’re not allowed to handle open unsealed containers
@@BestDasherAlive I will definitely tell them that next time I get a wingstop order. Thank you :)
I think having an high acceptance rate is a way that doordash do to manipulate drivers to accept all order.... is a double edge
Correct
It’s just the beginning. Their whole algorithm is based on manipulation.
Ya bc some don’t make sense and then you get dinged. Uber is much better
Mr Algo whisper!!! Thanks for this. Good to see you posting new vid🙏I have enjoyed your sharing and tips.
Soy yo 👋
I’ve noticed when I deliver orders quicker than normal, it will throw me better orders and will keep me busy up until I get that one McDonald’s order where I have to wait 20 minutes. Then the rest of the orders are kind of trash after that
I love how the store doesn’t get the food to me till 8 min after it was Ready For P/U and I’m the one who gets the LATE tag on my profile.
That’s one of the best parts of DD.
And the customer is allowed to rate me Late
I always communicate with the customer, let them know what is going on and why
sounds like a contract violation for picking up and delivering the order too late - how dare you!
@@BestDasherAlive I was caught in accident aftermath traffic jam
They tried to violate me
Uh no
U have a gps - u can seeeee it
I got out AND did a detour finallyyy
Dang right I was late to store!! 🤦♀️
I send feedback to DD when picking up orders and this happens 🤷♂️
The AR kills me. I stay 43-51% but these offers are like 10 mi for $4. Im doing this to make money not for charity delivery. Some offers are flat out theft from us. I can't say accept.
well said
10 miles doesn’t sound bad but a rule of thumb is that you multiply miles times2-3, which makes 10 miles 20-30 minutes. Definitely not worth 4 bucks. I’m doing Instacart and it’s not worth it when it’s that many miles. I feel your pain! It is a service to people but we gotta make money to survive
@@P-Rob-LuvGodI just started door dash today and seen a few of these. 10-14 miles for around $5-$6. It’s barely breaking even for gas (unless you have a hybrid like me) but that’s a good half hour of time.
@@Davinn I just started DoorDash about 3 weeks ago. Definitely better than Instacart imo. Some days and shifts are great, sometimes you come home and say, man! I started out taking almost every offer. Usually the 2-4 dollar ones that are within 5 miles or so. In just 3 weeks, I put in a good amount of time and worked up to top dasher, platinum status… the offers have definitely gotten better but they still sneak some sorry ones in. You do have to work through the dirt to get better status and offers. I’m overall liking it as a side gig but a lot of driving
Another important note… keep track of all your miles, car expenses even insurance. To my understanding, come tax time, it is about 60 cents per mile. That should make the money you earn, virtually tax free. I’m averaging 19-30 bucks an hour. I’ve noticed Thursday to Sunday nights are most profitable. Schedule early to claim those times. I do 4-8 pm
I’ve been DD in Vegas for over a year, and have averaged $100/day for 8+hrs after putting $20 in gas. Only once a week will I make $120+ in less than 8 hrs. I cherry pick for at least $1/mi unless I’m desperate. I average 2 orders/hr mostly at $7 for 5 mi. I’ve racked up 50k mi in a year. Idk what I’m doing wrong, but DD overall is not worth it.
Certain area’s it’s not worth it 😂😂😂😂😂
Completely not worth it
It’s a great biz model For The COMPANY
I’m disabled so can’t stand on my feet the whole shift so my car takes the beating for me
i have been handed a cup to fill at taco bell and i straight told the guy, i am not a customer i am a delivery person i dont do filling cups. he immediately filled it put a lid on it and handed it to me.
Lol
You were correct 🤷🏻♂️
I used to work for a delivery app where I was an actual employee and made $12/hr plus tips. There was a Qdoba who would always do try to make us fill cups. The other drivers apparently would just do it. I refused. The after about 3-4 times of me refusing, the manager yelled in my face so i just calmly walked out and reported a saftey issue. I was not about to fight or get upset in any way over a drink. The manager then called my company and tried to get me fired, but the company turned off their tablet for deliveries until they agreed to train their employees that we are not to handle food.
I miss being an employee and working for that company. I should have never stopped and moved. I'm thankful for the opportunity to doordash now, but I made much better money back then compared to doordash. Probably double.
Quite possibly the dankest advice ever! Thank you, Daddy! You are the GOAT of Dashing...
Wow I was wondering where you were. You definitely help me in the beginning so thanks for that. And thanks for this one ❤
I normally take my dash bag into the restaurant - if for no other reason, so employees can flag me and know to ask for the pick up name. Almost never have to say a word.
Interesting - I hate the idea of lugging a nag to and from car. You’re right tho - that does make it very obvious to employees what you’re there for
The McDonald's here will have my order ready 10 mins before the app tells me to pick up, so A. It's cooling down and B. I literally almost have to climb over the window to flag someone down. It's pssing me off
new DD here! Thanks for all the awesome tips! My app does not give me the option to give a reason for decline...wondering if it's more beneficial to let an offer time out?
Been doing door dash on my ebike for the past 2 weeks in New Jersey it's fun tbh
So fun on ebike
What area of Jersey? I’m in South Jersey, across river from Philly and then south. I just don’t think a bike would work well in my particular area
Central jersey
I had one Dasher get salty when I "cut" the line. I explained how I was a food delivery driver, and he said so was he! I just looked at him like he was the dumbest SOB on the planet. Your customer already ordered and pays high fees plus your tip. They are paying for you to get their food to them as fast as possible. PERIOD.
Hopefully you let your fellow dasher know he don’t gottta be waiting in line 😆
Finally! A new video.
😬 took forever
yeah i went from 51 to 48% AR and I saw a HUGE difference. I’m talking my earning decreased by at least 30%
They def made ar matter now
Yes nonstop trash offers when your ar is low.
My AR is way low but i still get the high pay orders. @@JasonBourne-lt6oo
how much you make ?
@@JasonBourne-lt6oo
I stay in the I.E. and had stopped doing door dash because it seemed too saturated in my region. But after seeing your video I may take another look at it. You speak facts! Especially on the open container piece. 🙏👏
I tried Door dash. The first two weeks I averaged $25 an hour because they were trying to get me hooked. The next three months I averaged $17.50 an hour. Long wait times at restaurants, drives that left me 15 minutes away any deliveries. I quit!!
It doesn’t feed you better orders first weeks then starts giving you bad 🤷🏻♂️
@BestDasherAlive, most people say it does, but I've been getting better orders on the second week.
They hook you… then f*ck you. Always new drivers to sucker.
@@BestDasherAlivemy first weeks were great
Then BS orders
I only do it becuz I’m disabled. I’m ruining my car n making $10-15 an hr. $15 an hr is a real good day
Great to see a video uploaded. Looking forward to the next.
Every day i Doordash is another day i want to tie the noose tighter. Cant even make $100 a day anymore
🤣
Pray the Rosary, don’t despair
My area says guaranteed minimum wage, which is 15 bucks where I live. 7 hours should cover that! Tough gig
Well trial and error and I think you’re right about taking sometimes the smaller ones that they end up sending you a stocked order and better ones but last night I guess I’m strategizing right now because I just started in April 2023 and yeah you have a good point there so you got a find your balance in the economy you’re working in… Yeah, lot of good tips. Thank you so much.
I'm just accepting everything until i can get to platinum status where i can dash even when it's not busy, then I'm going to be more picky with the orders i get cuz i won't be constrained by their time slots.. depending on the night, even dashing for only a couple hours, i can average between 20-30$/ hr. I live in a slightly urban area, not a huge city but big enough to where it can get pretty busy on nights, weekends or inclement weather
How’s that goin?
@@BestDasherAlive well, as I can only really dash on the weekends (when I'm not working my normal job), it's taking a little while to get to 100... But I'll get there eventually 😂
You know, with Instacart I was a little frustrated with all the bad offers but it completely makes sense. Most companies you have to work your way up! I haven’t started dashing yet but I’m ready to do time in trench of the Golden Arches
good to see you be back daddy dasher 🇧🇷
BDA!! Dude, did the PD that town posted your bike on FB? I saw this within the last two weeks. And I was like WTF happen to BDA? Glad to see you are still slaying it.
post my bike on Fb? Idk 🤷🏻♂️
I live in central/north Mississippi which only has small cities/towns that does DoorDash only a small percentage. I just started about 2 1/2 weeks ago and just now able to do it on my days I don’t have dialysis because the car was down.
How’s it goin?
I have to say everyone says this "AR" matters, or your whole completion matter's. Here in Michigan, it doesn't matter. I still make more than most of the dashers in less hours. My AR is 54 completion is 87. I work 15-20 hrs a week and make around $600/wk
Right, but are you more rural, suburban, or urban? Michigan is a very varied state, in that regard.
@@augustuslxiii it's honestly a mixed bag, there is a little city. But lots of farm land. It's almost 50/50 TBH. So you gotta pick and choose or get screwed
@@augustuslxiii smaller town only 150K people live here
Seems like you're good where you are, then, yeah.
Don't go below 50, though. 49 makes a difference.
Just wanna say I’m a fan of this convo keep it up 👊
Best dasher alive rises from the ashes!
Bout to start dashing with my wings 🪽
Yeah bro, the ashes 🚬 🍃 🔥 😮💨💨 wake and bake out those ashes bruh.. like the mighty stoner phoenix duuuuuude. Gnarly 🤙
Well Said 👂
@@FLiPtHeSWI7CH👂. 😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆
@@FLiPtHeSWI7CH lol..wtf is wrong with you?
Dude... here in Dothan Alabama you can bust your butt, running all day and make maybe $50. Alabama has no minimum wage which is only a thing to help companies keep wages extremely low... that puts it in everyone's head that $8 per hour is livable, "good" money and people tip here using that fed $7.35 per hour as a baseline. Not only that but companies like Door Dash and Uber Eats base pay using that. The new "hourly" pay never goes higher than $13-$14; and being a smaller town you run long distances for deliveries. I got a delivery yesterday that had me in town traffic for 10 minutes..had to wait at the store for the food, then run 7 miles out of town to delivery then all the way back to "hot spot " and it only paid $5.50 plus customer didn't tip extra. This is the $h-it that we have here.... any tips for this area other than starve? I'd LOVE to hear some... I'll wait.
What e-bike brand bike you using and what payment method you prefer for earning?
Ebike: th-cam.com/video/J_LkO_IHl5U/w-d-xo.html
Earning method: th-cam.com/video/0KDfwZW1gyE/w-d-xo.html
Great tips, thanks for sharing this brother
Man. This video came up in the algorithm and this was insane watching this. I drive fulltime and I used to be a really big cherry picker. I still do, but over time I've seen some changes on DoorDash. Originally when I first started it was just a fucking joke on this app to make money compared to others in my market. I unfortunately do believe that DoorDash has gotten more market share where I am, but I've had a theory for a while now that all of the apps now just send you more orders the more you accept.
I talk with other drivers in my zone and they're all on the catering list and it's always feast or famine with them. I remember one day this guy told me he made $103 in like 14 hours. Then come weekends he'll sit here and tell me about how he got all these high paying orders and makes like $350 in a day (this is kinda insane for my market most drivers average about $150 in 8 hours I feel is pretty common since all zones are different and I have talked with multiple drivers and we all end up at this mark seemingly so there is a consistency here.)
I remember going for Top Dasher and it did make a difference. I was getting prioritized some orders while sitting with that dude even though my stats are slightly worse except for AR. I really started noticing that when the diamond program rolled around that I really sat here one day and was like "you know what I feel like this app is more fair now." I noticed literally allll of the things you said in this video. Felt like I was listening to myself lol.
ESPECIALLY that stacked order thing. I never see stacked orders on DoorDash really anymore, but I will usually see one if I am sitting at a restaurant or on the way to one. I defnitely have noticed that whole telling DD what's going on thing does sometimes yeah send you orders have noticed that too. I haven't really tested it much, but I did kind of notice that taking small orders out of the zone I feel like more often than not I actually did get an offer or a bigger offer even at that coming back.
Matter of fact I can distinctly remember one night I finally gave DD a chance and sure it wasn't always like this, but I took an order going out of the zone I want to say maybe like.. $10 for 8 miles or something maybe less pay idk I was testing the theory, and then after I was finished with that order I immediately got a $6.25 offer from this sushi place I never picked up from going like 3 miles in the direction of where I usually go. I just said "sure why not" and it ended up being $17.25. I was kind of blown away in that moment. Got like another $15 right after when I got back to my zone going 5 miles I think. That same night I took like a taco bell order I think it was $9.25 or something going 5 miles. Not great but it was slow and it wasn't bad either though. Just a meh order, but then right as I was on the way they had ordered again from like 711 I think it was an additional $5 on top of it. When you order through the app too it gives you like a 5 minute window to order from somewhere else and it'll send that same order to the driver who already has your first order. If that driver for whatever reason declines it then I guess it gets sent to another driver.
I'm not gonna like sit here and simp for DoorDash either though because just today I got sent like a $3.25 order for 17 miles which is just stupid, but I also think that too many drivers fearmonger too and think DoorDash is out here to get them. DoorDash isn't stupid they're a really smart company, and they know that if drivers aren't happy they're not going to be delivering orders. I think they're at least trying to be more fair. Especially with the new tier system rolling around it'll really be interesting to see how things are in the future for sure.
Anyways yeah great video this has really just kind of validated my thought process as well that someone else has noticed this!
Well said
This was a long read man, but I read it because you took the time to write it but
@@evamaria644I was thinking the same thing… I didn’t make it all the way through 😮
Living in Australia ive had plenty of orders where they just give me a drink like a coffee from some small businesses with a pin in the lid and no bag at all. Its annoying because the only place i can put it is in my own cupholder
not gonna lie, i see no issues
@@BestDasherAlive😂
@@BestDasherAlivewas thinking same thing
I love my hybrid ❤. If I drive eco mode on the streets I use at max 30 miles a day
5:51 i raised by ar from 60% to 90% to see what would happen. Absolutely nothing. Actually making a little less. And another thing i noticed is that if you decline once it drops your rating 1% and it takes about accepting 10 just to raise it up that 1% you lost, ridiculous. Ive talked to a few dashers in my area and in the past 2 weeks we have started receiving lower offers for all the restaurants. Not sure whats going on there. It sucks to have to accept a $6 oder for 6 miles and 3 of those miles are down a muddy dirt road.
13:04 omg I have a screen door that swings out and I put it in the notes and drivers leave my drinks in front of the door. I have to wait for a neighbor to walk by to help me 😞
😅
What’s that taxes pay look like at end of year tho😮
Lester I like the idea of cows to LHL but the concern I have is the security. Donkey provide security for the goats.
Also this morning decided to work a different day when i had appt on the side of town where I generally dash (better tips)... rather than today... and forgot to cancel today til 5 mins after shift began... hoping they won't send me back to the principal's office. Thoughts? Experience?
today
Bro you Gotta get a Big 'O Red Door Dash Bag 🎒 to go along with that sweet E-bike
Def not
@@BestDasherAlive 💭🤔🧐🤨...idk why , you call yourself, should I say your Name Is 'Best DASSSHER Alive' ... ironically it's a Nay, would think 💬 it's a Yay
@@jdu2580 bro did you get butt hurt cuz he declined?
Refusing orders will get you below 70% and you lose “dash anytime”.
When that happens, I’m totally fucked for the month and can barely get on enough to get the 100 orders required for “top dasher” for the following month.
Is it just super easy to get on in your area?
Here, if you’re not on top, it’s grey-all-day.
Used to be. Gotta be top d nowadays
@@BestDasherAliveI haven’t started yet but they’re constantly offering me dash now! Is that just to bait me and then kick me aside once I start
CR 100% matters now btw. Doordash is prioritizing people who have 100% CR cause they want to make sure you wont drop the order so they will always send to the dasher who has the best CR. Along with 70%+ AR etc
Oh wow now that I’ve never had that done where they had me a cup to fill up a drink or scoop food never wow but that’s a good tip so if I’m ever told to do that I’ll say I don’t have a food handlers permit. I’m sorry I’m not authorize for that. Thanks again and have a great tip that I didn’t know.
You’re handling the food when you’re delivering you dunderhead
Wrong - dashers handle sealed containers and do not have food handlers permits for handling open food and drink
@@chuckschickbaldtacos --According to SB 602, all waitstaff, cooks, bussers, bartenders, hostesses handling food, and beverage pourers must have the card. Although this is a state requirement, some California counties, including Riverside, San Bernardino, and San Diego, have separate food safety card programs.Feb 9, 2022
@@chuckschickbaldtacos know the food handling laws for your state. It's easy to look up on Google....dunderhead.
What's to do if there's no scheduling for ebike in your area?
Select car in app but use ebike
Thank you so much bro the added for me. God bless 🙏 I have also Subscribed to you 🙏
You do know that using E-Bikes and E-cars still dive into your costs, right? Just because it switched from the gas pump to your electrical outlet doesn't really mean it's going to be cheaper. If you want to do it right, you'd have to write off some if your electric bill.
Ebike/escoot is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyuyyuyuyuuuuuuyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper
Thanks dude.
I wanna start especially with a E-bike , I have a apartment that has bills included so I’ll be saving on gas and electric lol
it's so. much. fun. you forgot that part...
Yeah DD needs to bring up the acceptance rate for platinum Dasher. Having it low makes it too easy for anybody to be top dasher and get the good orders with you which makes it almost not worth it to be a top dasher because it's over saturated
Higher ar ain’t the solution
@@BestDasherAlive idk how there algorithm is working it now. But anybody can get 70% for platinum. A lot of people won't stay about 80-85% that's why I think you should only be playing if you're above 80-85. Because before this platinum thing I was getting orders left and right at this certain high value place. Now everybody is sitting there waiting on orders because the AG let's everybody get great orders from the area 🫤
If you use e bike, you can't write off miles as deductions.
How does the IRS know if you're on an ebike or in a car?
@@Gabriel-pt6tqtbey will when they audit you
@@MylesKillis oh please bro
Would anyone who has rented a car specifically for DD recommend doing so and how was your experience? Thank you!
i have. if the #s work then it works
How many hours you work a day?
Do you recommend a certain e-bike model or type? I’m looking around for one I’m currently using my 2019 Honda Civic to deliver but sometimes would like a bike to save on some costs if possible
There’s a bunch that will work
Interesting that a lot of your experiences lines up with other big content creators i've seen, but really cool to see for first time someone else noticing the pause after drop off trick to help algorithm learn. I've been doing that for months now but wasn't sure if it was working, seemed to, nice to hear from a way more experienced Dasher with way more hours that i wasn't in fact being a complete fool.
I just started doing it because i was tanking AR way too hard if i didn't, some areas i would rather just leave to the locals, app will start repeatedly taking me way too far one direction out of zone if I don't do anything about it. Left it unattended while taking every order before and i've ended up two zones away from where i was trying to dash.
Yea it’ll keep pushing you away if you don’t pause and train it
I just got my acceptance rate all the way back up to 100% for the 2nd time within 3,000 total dashes. It's definitely an emotional roller-coaster of highs and lows to achieve.
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Do you get better paying orders now?
no @@Gabriel-pt6tq
Do you get better paying orders now?
@@chengzhong5342 no
How about a motorcycle? Does 55 mpg cut it? What about buying a set of $500 tires every 10K miles? Will the fuel savings even that out? It's not legal to lane split or filter in my state. Will it be worth it to do those things anyway?
Should work well
10k miles is about 10k dollars
So the acceptance rate truly doesn't matter?? Seems like i get less offers now that my acceptance rate is lower (60%)
None of that “E-Biking” thing here in Minnesota. Too cold 🥶
My kind rips in snow just out on some snowboard pants and jacket 🏂
Not only does he rip through snow but he walks on water!
Registered Nurse here that enjoys Dashing as a side hustle. Dashing can be a good gig if done right…
@@DamnYell I haven’t started yet. I have full time job like you. Good to hear that it’s worth it
If you schedule dashes ahead of time and then for some reason can’t do it, how do you cancel? & are you penalized in any way if you do cancel or can’t do the full amount of time scheduled
Click on it. Click delete. No penalties.
Did DD really come snooping? Man I regret updating recently but I wasnt getting many orders til I updated. It seems like the 50% AR threshold is way more relevant now too. I usually hover in the 52% area because I refuse to take no tip orders, but if im ever under 50 I def see a difference. Thanks for the new tips, your hustle is inspirational homie.
Yea way more relevant now 🫡
You have to treat DD like you are a business and not like you are an employee. I have had no issues keeping my AR 70-80%, but I also don't have a flat rule against non-tippers because I know it will break me before I break society. If DD gives me 4 dollars to pick up from a nearby place and will only have to go a few blocks to drop it off, I will pick it up, assuming the place is a store I need to know is slow as fk to make orders. I know I lose money on any order below a dollar per mile, so that is my only always, so there is no rule. I also have an MBA and know that there are two factors you need to consider, mileage and time. If you cherry-pick and get one excellent order in an hour but turn down what could have been two to three good orders because they were not high enough, you could be losing money cherry-picking because of opportunity cost. You are best served by looking for a more situational evaluation because the one thing you want to avoid is downtime. If you do a 10-hour dash and make the same money you would be making working at a decent service job for 10 hours, you are actually losing money. Why? Because you are paying for gas, car depreciation, and payroll tax since this is paid by the business. If you can get a 15-an-hour job in your area but are dashing and not making 20 an hour, you are losing money with your plan because you would have been better off at the job. So please go evaluate your rules because if they are not landing you 25% more an hour than you would get working a job, you are losing money. I have over 1400 deliveries so far, so I have gotten good at perfecting my rules, and no rule is perfect for every area. But know, no tip, no trip, can fk you if DD will pay you a decent payout to pick it up, as it hurts your AR and keeps you on downtime, which is an opportunity cost factor.
@@wvance0316when ur body is wrecked, ur car does the work instead
That’s y I DD. I can’t handle being on my feet 6 hrs straight then again 2-4 hrs before shift is over. Plus lifting heavy etc.
So making the same is ok becuz the other option is zero $ per hr 🤷🏼♀️
I'm still kinda new to dashing...wondering how yall see the tip before accepting or how you can tell that it's a no tip order?
@@gena4638 Find out what your DD base pay per order is in your market. Average is usually like 2.50 to 3.00 with a little added on top for distance if its a good far run. When you get an offer, deduct the DD base pay in your head, and the rest of the offer is what the customer tipped.
If you get offers that are like 5.00 for 10 miles then you know they didnt tip. Or even 3.00 on 5 miles. Thats not a tip, just base. No tip, no accept bro.
Could I still consider using an ebike for the small city side?
I wanna get one but I dunno whats fast for the mileage. Some ebikes only go up to 20mph and some go to 28mph.
Is any 20mph ebike still ok to use?
I’ve done it successfully on a 20mph ebike it’s a little slow tho. 28 is a lot better
i just did 8 dashes in 3 hours made 30$ but probably broke even after gas and lunch. idk how your throwing out this many orders. ill sit there sometimes at a hotspot and watch other doordash ppl pull up next to me walk in and get an order. i really need money even if i make half of what you make.
Dude your a boss, you are mad confident and you look like 2007 Tom Brady, your BATMAN!
I am Dash Man, the best alive
Didn’t know Tom Brady was dashing. Hard times? Really though, good tips thanks.
LOL I saw that too. And even the voice is a bit similar. Talking style is different though.
I wonder if his girlfriend/wife looks like Giselle.
Professor , you came back !! Where have you been????
Collecting data for this video, as Professor do
@@BestDasherAlive Good.
So text only if there’s issues? I just started so I’m not sure of everything yet.
I'd like to know how many hours does he dash per day to earn $2k per week? And how many days per week does he dash as well?
I show screenshots of my stats
I have 100% completion rate. 89% acceptance. 5 star rating. Yet I get trash orders. How do I fix it?? I have made so many calls to see why this is happening. But nothing works. Literally on verge of quitting. It’s my main hustle tho. Please reply! I cant decline the bad ones to keep acceptance good. And accepting bad ones only lead me to have nothing in the end. I only got 2 orders out of 247 life time delivery over 12 dollars. Max I got was for $16. What am I doing wrong? 8 hours of work and barely a $100/day. Please reply😭
Your videos are always super informative! I've been doing DD on and off for over 2 years and I still continue to learn new things when I watch your channel. How many hours on average do you work per week to hit $2k? And, do you use a dash cam/body cam while delivering?
I'm on a 150cc scooter helps a ton with gas prices but I still plan on getting an ebike I once delivered an empty cup from taco bell because they absolutely refused to make the drink after I said I'm dirty I ride a motorcycle I have cuts on my hands
I’ve delivered empty cups before 😆
I started driving recently and like your videos, but Im not sure I believe that they prioritize the way most people think they do.The main objective of these apps is to get the delivery to the customer as quickly as possible. The last thing they want is someones food sitting there getting cold or a customer waiting 45 minutes for their dinner. They will probably never use that app again. So having said that, if the driver with a low acceptance rate is within a mile of a restaurant and a "top Dasher" is more like 3-5 miles out, guess who's getting that order? These apps are heavily weighted towards who is in the closest proximity to the pickup. That is their top priority and why you saw no real difference between acceptance rates.
Na
@@BestDasherAlive so you think DD is going to send an order to a driver 3 miles from a pickup over someone in the same parking lot just over acceptance rates? As you know, it can take you 20 minutes to go 3 miles in OC/LA. DD prioritizes time, that’s why they have the pickup by clock and rate you on early or on time pickups. As I said, their top priority is getting an order to the customer as quickly as possible.
@michaelbell75 It definitely prioritizes the top dasher. I've been sent high pay orders when I'm miles and miles outside the zone in the middle of nowhere and the order is located in an area where it's very busy and there are lots of dashers around.
That’s why DD is going to start requiring tips from customers.
@@JacesOwnWorld good
What do you do instead of filling up the drink? Does the customer just not get a drink?
restaurant fills up drinks.
This is great. But what’s the maximum drop off distance that you’d do? Is it 2.5 miles? And can this strategy work for all apps outside doordash?
Depends on the pay
Doordash appears from what most can tell and my own experience to be the most algorithm heavy, which can become a good thing but causes some pain until you and it reach a agreement, or in other words until you train it well while meeting the qualifications its hoping for.
@@Ottobonthere’s no training it
It’s ALLLLL the AR
@@YeshuaKingMessiah that is what I thought until I learned the power of saying no to it with a high AR earned on EBT. If you can keep your stats up and still say no when you need to it will gift you strings of very high pay offers.
Importantly it doesn't seem to learn forever, probably runs off reflection of the rolling 100, which in retrospect is a good thing, and it learns locally so if you do too many zones it's harder to manage but it definitely does respond to you telling it what offers you deem acceptable
For the red card orders do you swipe first or click the confirm payment first??
Doesn’t matter
Lol it was 14 degrees here yesterday, even without the crap weather I don't live in a big enough city and the area is way too big for an E-bike 😂 know your own area, don't just listen to others who don't live in your area...
Throw some snowboard/ski clothing on and you’re good to go
Well, when I go into a restaurant with my bag and everything else I cut through the crowd and I got skews me sorry I just haven’t ordered and they can see I’m DoorDash in or whatever so I’ve never had any very rude with me. Because technically, when we got to pick up an order, the order should actually be ready, but I have to wait nothing but quite a few restaurants I guess they know a little bit about it waiting more than five minutes they’re offering me a pop, some food, you know, etc. But honestly, I would just rather get my food faster. I just get out of there and get moving. Lol
An E bike is also an advantage during rush hour. While everyone in a car is stuck in traffic, you just zipp by lol
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The rest of us have HIGH GAS PRICES to pay!🤪
Where the heck do you find those cheap rentals? I can't find anything that cheap here in Houston, TX. Even a tiny Chevy Spark is running $40/day here on that app 🤔
Heyyy neighbor! I'm here in Houston also. Been doing deliveries with a hybrid, then EVs, now plug-in-hybrid, 😂.
I just checked Houston on Turo and you can land the same pricing. You gotta schedule out a week+ in advance then it gives you an early booking discount
Have you noticed when you chose bicycle over ebike theres alot more schedule slots?
I always choose car
As far as going to the front of the line I've noticed this. Before I did this I purchased all my gear I have my doordash bags I have my Uber eats bags etc I walk in. I have the bag ready at chest height. They see the bag they recognize the green or Red. I've noticed others hanging around to the side looking at the phone cuz they an offer. I get dirty looks all the time from them. I get taken care of almost all the time in fact in front of people who are ordering. Very simply good evening good afternoon whatever it is very polite I'm extremely friendly. Very clearly spoken hi good afternoon I have a dual dash here for . Jim thank you very much. They'll grab the item if it's ready if not I will find out it's only going to be a minute or two they will look for me right away and again I have seen this happen all the time so spend the 20 bucks to get the bag. I'm in the Boston area I don't know if this makes any difference in other places but it works here
Dope, thanks
Also bike delivery depends on the market and where you at! Try somewhere else and you will a make 1/3rd of that! Better yet we all come to your market on bikes and dip in on that pool, especially with my stats 10k deliveries in past 2 years, 4.95 customer rating, 100% C.R. And 95 A.R. 🤭 your $2k a month will be less and less each week
Professor, you need to learn to ride bike first!
I been riding before you were born! You my son
Good video, I have a question I want to start DDing, but I just want to do an order or maybe 2 a day, probably not even every day. I know you mentioned the acceptance rate, and not being able to decline anymore. If you can't decline how would that work if somebody just wanted to do maybe a single delivery? I understand not accepting the orders will lower you. But I'd be fine hopping on my electric scooter and doing 1-2 orders. If DD doesn't allow declines I'm confused about how that would work though. I know a person can't accept every single order that comes in. But will DD even allow me to keep doing it if I only accept like 1 or 2 out of 100 orders? I don't care if I only make $10-20. I'm just looking for a tiny thing to do where I could make $100 a week with around an hour a day.
And thanks for the backpack video, I'll be ordering that setup if after reading more I figure out if DDing 1 or 2 orders a day is even something you can do.
May be better for you to just start and try it out to see if DD works for you. Most areas are no SoCal, yet there is a plethora of advice online from people working the SoCal regions to doordash in and their advice just doesn't add up to a lot of the country unless there are high income areas in cities set up for easy access to restaurants etc.
What he said in the vid here is that the 'decline options' are gone. You can still decline an order, but now they don't always care why you are declining, app just nags you over your acceptance rate (some places don't even get that and your rate might tank quickly if you aren't checking it).
Could work for sure. Best to try it out and then you’ll know!
Hello ,I don't understand what is going on with me and Doordash in my area. I keep hearing how you can 200 to 250 a day.I live in a very busy area with a ton of restaurants . I tried a week of lunch and dinner and its pathetic ! I have not made more than 40 dollars a day ! Any suggestions of what the heck is going on !?
Wish I could make that much
How do you do DD on a bike if it only gives me the option for a car? :(
Hey what do you think bout there hr rate?
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He's amazing.
Great video! I am actually going to get started out on Uber Eats and/or Grubhub delivery while I begin my classes this fall! Can't do DD because I got no DL yet :/. I'll be saving up for the next few weeks at my job before my last day for a new ebike so I don't need to worry about taking my surron to San Clemente🤣
Grown men with guns running around stealing e-bikes that go 42mph for 45min 🙄
@@BestDasherAlive hahahahaha 😂
I tell them it's their job to prepare the order, my job is to deliver a prepared order. If they object or want to argue "the others do it" I'll usually leave and reassign unless they're clearly very busy, short handed and ask me to help them out. When they just shove an empty cup at me that's completely disrespectful and I ain't putting up with it. Most have now learned but I still get one or two occasionally.
Can’t handle open containers without a food handlers permit. Open cup is an open container. You can’t handle it as a dasher because you don’t have food handlers permit. Restaurant must handle it because they have food handlers permits and must hand you sealed containers/bags for you to deliver
@@BestDasherAliveI don’t think that applies in all states
Why is your acceptance rate so high?
I like the pizza orders especially the cash on delivery.. today I got paid $40 cash
heck yea