Comparing zig zag plus and regular zigzag as well as some demonstrations of what can be accomplished. Enjoy and thanks to all the new subs!!!!! Happy New Year!!!
Boring us? Are you Crazy. I and many others just learned a shit load of stuff from you. We are thoroughly convinced that you are very comfortable with what you do to earn a living, in the safest way possible. It's crystal clear you know your stuff and you are gifted in being able to teach us! Thank you for being of service!
Nicely done Dustin! I like that you showed multiple uses for the plus, along with the side by side comparison. My understanding is with using the chicane on the old version is that petzl and the safety police don't recommend it because the old zigzag wasn't tested or purpose built for SRT use. But we've all used one with a wrench/tether on there anyways lol! I use the extra attachment point on my plus for tending it while rope walking, but never seen nor thought of doing the vrig with it. I'll have to give that a try sometime, looked like a real simple and clean set up. Great job and keep up the great work brother!
Hey thanks alot Josh, anyway I did some research and if you go to tree stuff and look up chicane it says for use with any version of the zigzag. Happy 2020 man stay safe 👊
That was very helpful. I bought both the Zig Zag and Chicane last year cause I'm an older guy and wanting to keep things as simple and easy as possible. I've never even see anyone describe those two ways of using it- I like both of them and will have to try them sometime. It's amazing how many different ways of climbing and tools are available at every turn. I'm new and still learning a lot, but vids like this are helpful and certainly things I can add to my arsenal.
Still watching from here in Ohio. The wifey surprised me with a lightly used ms200 for Christmas. It's like welcoming back an old friend.Glad to see your channel growing, you do a good job.
Thanks Darren I appreciate that, I really want another 200 but they can be pricey, If you need a new piston and cylinder I highly reccomend the meteor kit it's awesome for the 200. I think when I do my next 201t up I'm gonna try my hand at some transfers. Have a good 2020 👊
👊👍♥️ you gotta love free stuff. I've been running the 2014 zigzag with the chicane and a petzl am'd binner and had great results so far. Love the setup wishing it had the other attachment point though. Just got the akimbo for xmas and I can't wait to try it out but Ontario weather just isn't cooperative have rewatched your videos on the device 👍👍👍 what's the best. Hope you have a great new year stay safe in 2020 🇨🇦🇨🇦👍👍👊👊
Awesome man I hope you enjoy the akimbo as much as I do! I pretty much use it every srt climb where I have to rope walk up. I may have to get the chicane one day people seem to really like it, Have a great 2020 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
@@neightjay I checked it out with universal field supplies in Toronto and they said no problem and it shows it on the petzl website to they are recommending their carabiners for it. I have been running it for 6 months with good results stay safe 🇨🇦👊👍🍺
Damn good video. Gave me some great ideas. Thanks for sharing. I’m into recreational tree climbing here in SW Pennsylvania and have been really researching the ZigZag Plus and your video is the best.
Great video man, love your videos always learning more every time I watch your videos, I'm just starting tree climbing,(just as a hobby) , gets the kid out of me ,definitely going to get the whole srt kit, have a blessed 2020.
I stumbled on your channel a few weeks ago. Very impressed dude. Your gear and climbing/rigging skills are on point! You will love the hook! I SRT 90% of the time and CMI (I believe) makes a hand ascender with a built in pulley that you will love! It’s just a little more stream lined and less bulky. Keep up the GREAT work!!!!!!!
Hey man thank you so much, I thought there was a hand ascender with a pulley I really appreciate that. I cant wait to use the hook. Happy 2020 Brotha 👊
@@PoplarMechanic I wish i new you were looking for a Dr. Hook I accidently bought two last year I have one sitting in the packaging in my shop. I would have shipped it to you.
If you have the zigzag already, get the chicane. Its lightning fast to put on or take off. Its also got bigger friction bollards than the rope wrench, and that makes it smoother and ultra consistent
Poplar I'd like to see a review on it, I just got the zigzag and chicane but it's a lot nicer than what I started on. You're bound to like the chicane even though it wouldn't exist if not for the zagwrench tether and your RR tether
A very good informative video my friend, it is a great tool with great ease of use, I like how petzl came out with the chicane after so much about the tethers that people created to use the zz for srt use flooded the sites, I still prefer my friction cord for drt, that whole thing relies on that one little spring in the top link 🤨, using the Cornell hitch seems to flow really easy if you use hitch cords, be blessed brother and Happy New Year.
Thanks man! You covered a good deal of info. I had no idea about the Carabiner/Chicane situation. Also, I'm really curious to know how Smooth that GriGri tends with a foot ascender and the hook. Thanks for the plug man!
I got the chicane on old zig zag works great man. Only down side for me that it's not a compact system ! It's huge man the hitch hiker x is my go to device
Lol! Sorry maybe I should watch the video till the end before I comment I said about the Reon rounds tether at the end of the video you show it LOL! But if you could do a review on the new one with the Reon rounds tether I know everybody else says it's nice but you can do a review on it I would enjoy another outlook on it! Thanks for the video!
Ya I hear alot of people saying with that set up it is buttery smooth but everyone is different so it's nice to hear different opinions thanks alot happy 2020 to you and your family!👍👊
Congratulations on getting lucky with treestuff. Every once in a while good stuff happens to good people!!! V rig thing is cool.. Happy new year. Been playing with my new akimbo. Running it on Yale blue moon at frist was not so sure about it but still playing on it. I notice it reacts differently from almost new blue moon and more used one. But I am still curious on what methods u have come up with and what ropes u are finding easyer then others for you.. if your thinking to do video on it.
I have only tried 3 ropes with it so far. I will do a video on it once I get some more testing, xstatic has been my go to for now. It seems to work well on anything if set correctly. Unless your ropes really wet or theres sap. Thanks for watching man I will do a follow up. Happy 2020 👊
Poplar Mechanic I’ve used the old Zigzag with the rope wrench and it worked pretty good, I do line clearance so I use the rope wrench with the hitch climber pulley but I’m going to get the unicender to do removals cause that’s what we do most of the time. We doing transmission work for now.
Great video! I’ve watched your video’s on the Akimbo as well. I know they’re 2 totally different creatures, but if you had to pick one, which one would it be. I’m looking at them just for ascending and descending only. I don’t do tree work. Recreational climbing
Well for recreation, If you plan on setting your line with a throw line alot I would go with the akimbo. Being able to attatch mid line is pretty valuable. Keep in mind the zigzag is probably more user friendly and may work better with a wider range of ropes. Even though I haven't used the chicane I would recommend getting it because its designed specifically for the zigzag and zig zag plus, Hope that helps.
Can you pls inform me of the whole set up you are displaying including the rope, the link set up and all the items you are using? I live in FL and it is hard to find a dealer that will take time or have the knowledge to help me. Thank you for your time.
Ya I'm in Alberta. Did you see the plate lol, anyway let me know how your echo goes If you think it's good I may get another and do it up a bit differently this time. I could get parts but I'm at the point it's better to have another saw and use the old one for parts lol I wont drop the new one! Have a good 2020 👊
So for srt I use xstatic heres the link www.treestuff.com/teufelberger-xstatic-11-7mm-climbing-rope/ And for double my favorite has been anything tachyon, im currently using this with the zigzag www.treestuff.com/teufelberger-tachyon-ash-11-5mm-climbing-rope/
Ya I wasn't sure but I remember reading it. I looked on tree stuff and it says it can be used with any version of the zig zag, heres the link www.treestuff.com/petzl-chicane-auxiliary-brake/
Boring us? Are you Crazy. I and many others just learned a shit load of stuff from you. We are thoroughly convinced that you are very comfortable with what you do to earn a living, in the safest way possible. It's crystal clear you know your stuff and you are gifted in being able to teach us! Thank you for being of service!
Thanks man! Greatly appreciated! Be safe brotha 👊
both new an old version, pretzel work with the chicane , what a great video ! joe from bay area California ..
Thanks joe 😁, happy 2020 buddy 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Never told you I love this video. Watched it when I was deciding to order one or not. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Hey man, thanks for taking the time to watch! Be safe tree brotha 👊
Nicely done Dustin! I like that you showed multiple uses for the plus, along with the side by side comparison. My understanding is with using the chicane on the old version is that petzl and the safety police don't recommend it because the old zigzag wasn't tested or purpose built for SRT use. But we've all used one with a wrench/tether on there anyways lol! I use the extra attachment point on my plus for tending it while rope walking, but never seen nor thought of doing the vrig with it. I'll have to give that a try sometime, looked like a real simple and clean set up. Great job and keep up the great work brother!
Hey thanks alot Josh, anyway I did some research and if you go to tree stuff and look up chicane it says for use with any version of the zigzag. Happy 2020 man stay safe 👊
That was very helpful. I bought both the Zig Zag and Chicane last year cause I'm an older guy and wanting to keep things as simple and easy as possible. I've never even see anyone describe those two ways of using it- I like both of them and will have to try them sometime. It's amazing how many different ways of climbing and tools are available at every turn. I'm new and still learning a lot, but vids like this are helpful and certainly things I can add to my arsenal.
Hey I'm glad it helped, I am always learning to, I just try to be better than I was the year before. Thanks for watching man, Be safe.👊
Still watching from here in Ohio. The wifey surprised me with a lightly used ms200 for Christmas. It's like welcoming back an old friend.Glad to see your channel growing, you do a good job.
Thanks Darren I appreciate that, I really want another 200 but they can be pricey, If you need a new piston and cylinder I highly reccomend the meteor kit it's awesome for the 200. I think when I do my next 201t up I'm gonna try my hand at some transfers. Have a good 2020 👊
👊👍♥️ you gotta love free stuff. I've been running the 2014 zigzag with the chicane and a petzl am'd binner and had great results so far. Love the setup wishing it had the other attachment point though. Just got the akimbo for xmas and I can't wait to try it out but Ontario weather just isn't cooperative have rewatched your videos on the device 👍👍👍 what's the best. Hope you have a great new year stay safe in 2020 🇨🇦🇨🇦👍👍👊👊
Awesome man I hope you enjoy the akimbo as much as I do! I pretty much use it every srt climb where I have to rope walk up. I may have to get the chicane one day people seem to really like it, Have a great 2020 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Steve Thompson thanks for posting. I wasn’t 100% sure I could use my 2017 zig zag with the chicane. No issues? 👍🏼🇨🇦
@@neightjay I confirmed it, you can use chicane with any version of zig zag. www.treestuff.com/petzl-chicane-auxiliary-brake/
@@neightjay I checked it out with universal field supplies in Toronto and they said no problem and it shows it on the petzl website to they are recommending their carabiners for it. I have been running it for 6 months with good results stay safe 🇨🇦👊👍🍺
Beauty, thanks.
Thank you for sharing !!!
That's wicked you won the 25th free purchase. Always great to get free stuff!
Very cool man i New to get my self one .awesome that you were the 25 order i bet you wished you would have ordered a LOT MORE gear in your order 👊🏽
Lol ya I did wish that, but the order was close to 600 cad so not to bad lol. 👊
I've got the zigzag plus and it's a decent bit of kit.petzl will only guarantee the Zigzag plus if you use there brand carabiner.
Thanks for the video. Sweet score from treestuff. All the best in 2020. 👍🏼🇨🇦
You to man, be safe 👊
I really like the orange rope that you are using in your demonstration.
Ya i havnt used it a ton yet but its samson tangent. Feels a bit odd with the zigzag.
Damn good video. Gave me some great ideas. Thanks for sharing. I’m into recreational tree climbing here in SW Pennsylvania and have been really researching the ZigZag Plus and your video is the best.
Hey awesome man I really appreciate that! Climb safe my friend 👊
Great video, hope you had a good Christmas. All the best from oban Scotland 🏴😁
Merry christmas and happy new year from canada 🇨🇦👊🇨🇦
Thanks for the video man,your effort is appreciated.
Thanks 💯👊
Great video man, love your videos always learning more every time I watch your videos,
I'm just starting tree climbing,(just as a hobby) , gets the kid out of me ,definitely going to get the whole srt kit, have a blessed 2020.
Awesome man I'm glad you are getting something from it. Have a great 2020 and climb safe 👊
I stumbled on your channel a few weeks ago.
Very impressed dude. Your gear and climbing/rigging skills are on point!
You will love the hook!
I SRT 90% of the time and CMI (I believe) makes a hand ascender with a built in pulley that you will love! It’s just a little more stream lined and less bulky.
Keep up the GREAT work!!!!!!!
Hey man thank you so much, I thought there was a hand ascender with a pulley I really appreciate that. I cant wait to use the hook. Happy 2020 Brotha 👊
Ya I found it, climbing technology makes it, looks slick thanks again.
Poplar Mechanic that’s the one dude, I never climb without it. 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
Awesome, happy new year to you too sir. ZigZag... Hrmmm... your videos make me buy stuff, you should get a commission.
Lol I wish I did 👊
@@PoplarMechanic I wish i new you were looking for a Dr. Hook I accidently bought two last year I have one sitting in the packaging in my shop. I would have shipped it to you.
@@RainManFights really well it's already almost here. I do greatly appreciate that man. Maybe someone else you know could have it 😁. Happy 2020 👊
Very good
definitely need to grab a tether for my zigzag so I can run it SRT...great video
hope you have a safe and prosperous new year
Thanks for watching scoot, Have a happy new year 👊
If you have the zigzag already, get the chicane. Its lightning fast to put on or take off. Its also got bigger friction bollards than the rope wrench, and that makes it smoother and ultra consistent
@@SLOCLMBR alright good to know! I will have to get it and try it. 👊
@@SLOCLMBR cool thanks
Poplar I'd like to see a review on it, I just got the zigzag and chicane but it's a lot nicer than what I started on. You're bound to like the chicane even though it wouldn't exist if not for the zagwrench tether and your RR tether
A very good informative video my friend, it is a great tool with great ease of use, I like how petzl came out with the chicane after so much about the tethers that people created to use the zz for srt use flooded the sites, I still prefer my friction cord for drt, that whole thing relies on that one little spring in the top link 🤨, using the Cornell hitch seems to flow really easy if you use hitch cords, be blessed brother and Happy New Year.
You to, I'm not familiar with the Cornell unless it has a different name, you should make a video demonstrating it, Happy 2020 👊
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Jason shows it at 5:20
The only thing keeping me from the ZZ is that its not mid-line.
Ya I hear ya, I mainly use zigzag for spur up from the bottom trees. It is a very good device though.
Thanks man! You covered a good deal of info. I had no idea about the Carabiner/Chicane situation.
Also, I'm really curious to know how Smooth that GriGri tends with a foot ascender and the hook.
Thanks for the plug man!
I tried it after the video, it works pretty good. Obviously it gets harder the steeper the main rope angle.
You should do a video on your shop/trucks. Seems like you have a sick little business going. Be safe.
Hey I will do that! I'm in the process of buying my dad out he started this business over 20 years ago. So I had a bit of a head start lol.
Thanks for informative vidéo
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I got the chicane on old zig zag works great man. Only down side for me that it's not a compact system ! It's huge man the hitch hiker x is my go to device
Ya it seems large on the rope, I have to try the hitch hiker but I really do love mechanicals.
Try out your reon round tether and rope wrench I have heard it is all that!!😎 but on a serious note if you do, do that please make a video in it!
Great content, thank you!
I appreciate that man, thanks for watching. 👊
Lol! Sorry maybe I should watch the video till the end before I comment I said about the Reon rounds tether at the end of the video you show it LOL! But if you could do a review on the new one with the Reon rounds tether I know everybody else says it's nice but you can do a review on it I would enjoy another outlook on it! Thanks for the video!
Haha np, I will do a video with it as soon as I can. It seems pretty good just from playing with it in the shop. Happy 2020 Chad 👊
Ya I hear alot of people saying with that set up it is buttery smooth but everyone is different so it's nice to hear different opinions thanks alot happy 2020 to you and your family!👍👊
Congratulations on getting lucky with treestuff. Every once in a while good stuff happens to good people!!! V rig thing is cool.. Happy new year. Been playing with my new akimbo. Running it on Yale blue moon at frist was not so sure about it but still playing on it. I notice it reacts differently from almost new blue moon and more used one. But I am still curious on what methods u have come up with and what ropes u are finding easyer then others for you.. if your thinking to do video on it.
I have only tried 3 ropes with it so far. I will do a video on it once I get some more testing, xstatic has been my go to for now. It seems to work well on anything if set correctly. Unless your ropes really wet or theres sap. Thanks for watching man I will do a follow up. Happy 2020 👊
Looks pretty good, the extra hole to do the V or M method.
Ya, I'm sure I'll love it, Not much has changed since the first version.
Poplar Mechanic I’ve used the old Zigzag with the rope wrench and it worked pretty good, I do line clearance so I use the rope wrench with the hitch climber pulley but I’m going to get the unicender to do removals cause that’s what we do most of the time. We doing transmission work for now.
I wanna climb a tree....then the fire department can come n get me out 🐈😂😂. Cool new tools 🤙🏽
Lol. Thanks for watching 👊
Great video! I’ve watched your video’s on the Akimbo as well. I know they’re 2 totally different creatures, but if you had to pick one, which one would it be. I’m looking at them just for ascending and descending only. I don’t do tree work. Recreational climbing
Well for recreation, If you plan on setting your line with a throw line alot I would go with the akimbo. Being able to attatch mid line is pretty valuable. Keep in mind the zigzag is probably more user friendly and may work better with a wider range of ropes. Even though I haven't used the chicane I would recommend getting it because its designed specifically for the zigzag and zig zag plus, Hope that helps.
I appreciate the feedback. Thank you! Keep up the good work, love your channel
Can you pls inform me of the whole set up you are displaying including the rope, the link set up and all the items you are using? I live in FL and it is hard to find a dealer that will take time or have the knowledge to help me. Thank you for your time.
Carabiner can get for !9.95 prime as well
Guess whose Zig Zag Plus arrived today and now knows to liberate a dust-collecting GriGri (from his friend) to use with his Captain's Hook.
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Haha awesome man, my rope runner pro shipped yesterday so hopefully I'll have a video on that soon too. Enjoy your zigzag !
Sweet Pop, glad one of us got some free gear! Are you in Alberta? Some reason i thought you were in the upper mid west US. Be Well!
Ya I'm in Alberta. Did you see the plate lol, anyway let me know how your echo goes If you think it's good I may get another and do it up a bit differently this time. I could get parts but I'm at the point it's better to have another saw and use the old one for parts lol I wont drop the new one! Have a good 2020 👊
look at this dudes shoes 10:30
I like the old one better
Ya the old one is awesome, nice and compact. I'll still give this one a whirl.
Would you pls tell me what kind of rope to buy for tree climbing? Thank you 🙏
So for srt I use xstatic heres the link www.treestuff.com/teufelberger-xstatic-11-7mm-climbing-rope/
And for double my favorite has been anything tachyon, im currently using this with the zigzag www.treestuff.com/teufelberger-tachyon-ash-11-5mm-climbing-rope/
Poplar Mechanic thank you for your replies
I used a tachyon with the Zigzag and it got chewed up in no time. I just got a Petzl flow, I hope that holds up.
What’s the best size rope to start with ? On the zigzag pro?
I like 11.5 mm tachyon ash
@@PoplarMechanic thank man 💯
@joepyrowhisper6543 No worries, brotha, have a good day! 🤙
I believe you're not allowed to use the old Zigzag with the Chicane. It'll work just as well though probably.
Ya I wasn't sure but I remember reading it. I looked on tree stuff and it says it can be used with any version of the zig zag, heres the link www.treestuff.com/petzl-chicane-auxiliary-brake/
I use Chicane with older zigzag. Works smooth.
From 6:40 am - DO NOT work with the zigzag at this angle. Pay attention to the chain exit !.
this tool what's the name. ?
Zigzag plus
how can I get the same package for free? give us the link
It was a temporary thing on treestuff.com. every 10th order was free, I'm not sure when they will be doing it again.