Either that or one of your party members references something that didn't happen and it turns out your whole party was shuffled with versions of themselves from different universes/timelines and at the goal of the dungeon is to unite the parties properly
@@nickelakon5369 I feel like this one would fit better rather then the game restart because from my understanding the mandela effect is for a little bit more subtle things
I like the idea of the "Tulpamancers" not being a group of people that are trying to inflict their illness on you, but a group of Persona who have lost control over their Personas and that seek to find a way to remove theirs in their moments of lucidity. Their affliction is what happens when they awaken to a Persona but something changes in their lives that alters them so drastically as a person (SEVERE trauma) that they can no longer associate with the image that they used as their shield against hardship. Left with nowhere to go, the Persona runs rampant through their minds and whatever parallel reality is being used as the medium for their manifestation in this iteration. A lot of the horror stories about tulpas come from the idea of the tulpa user losing control over the tulpa and it then running wild through the person's psyche, and I think that there's a strong case that could be made for a character faction like this in a Persona series game.
This is really really cool, and feels like it could be an arc for a confidant in a persona game, with the end result of course resulting in their persona evolving (in this case becoming closer to the users new look on life)
With regard to SCP demons, have you thought about the SCP foundation itself? The idea of a bunch of humans/demons that suddenly become deluded into locking up "unidentified phenomena" and performing nonsensical tests so they can write inane reports
It'd be interesting to have the SCP Foundation as a demon, the ultimate caricature of antianomalous containment groups, a Men-In-Black figure with a labcoat, holding a massive magnifying glass (scientist personal), despite it's head being a mass of security cameras (constant surveillance). It would be able to Inflict immobilising ailments and debuffs (containment procedures), has a unique skill that inflicts Forget (amnestics) and another unique or common Skill remove Forget on itself or allies (mnestics), and it's only damaging Skills are Gun Skills (MTF), the only saving grace is that it's weak to Light, Dark and Gun but resist Physical. I'd have the demon also be a fusion accident, but features in a quest as the main focus is to capture notable or strange demons or even their fellow A.R.F.A./Rumor demons and give these demons to them, until turning on the player as they realise you're technically anomalous yourself, and also working with a group of anomalous cohorts in the form of demons or Personas, literally calling you a Group of Interest and start a fight with it. My only other SCP demon idea is the SPC, but as an antireward for players wanting an easy way to do fusion accidents without inputting any effort, with a ton of weaknesses to Magic and Physical types and only knowing punch based Physical or Strike Skills to be as useless as possible, even in early game.
the "i am god" boss fight starts against a bunch of random red pixels and everytime you beat one they multiply until you get the full face, and when he smirks the icon is his face inside the green square that starts flashing red
I actually thought bruh moment would be a demon (lvl 73) uses agi and almighty spells, high counter, makarakarn Rpls everything 0/10 untapped potential - this really is a “Bruh Moment”
I mean, there are Demons based on then Urban legends not just mythology and religion so yeah. Honestly, it'd be cool to see these actually become demons. That'd be fun.
The idea of urban legend demons is amazing, I imagine a polybius as a demon to be a malnourished souless husk wearing horse blinders with a arcade machine riding on it's back using a harness of wires using connected to the joystick being the "driving" hand, with the arcade machine itself having a digital face on the screen is.
An internet-based faction, that is a group of hackers that constantly summon these kind of demons would be interesting in a smt story From creepy-pastas to scps, there's alot you can go through And I really like the idea to personalize these creatures or 'concepts' on Kaneko's artstyle
I adore the idea of that skinwalker quest. Having one of your party members switched out for a skinwalker and going back to the weird city of twins to recover your friend sounds like it would make for a very memorable quest
I like the idea of Tulpa only being cured by engaging in conversation with a demon and then instead of recruiting them, shunting them onto them and then them leaving with the Tulpa now attached to them. Perhaps doing this would cause a random event where a battle with the same type of demon would result in them calling you out for cursing them and getting a free attack (or thanking you, could be different for each demon) EDIT: I haven't yet finished the video, but I always personally joke about a recurring antagonist in a future Persona game who is kind of a joke and has his Persona as Sewer Gator.
So. Back when Fakku was still free. I'd occasionally scroll on through. And one time, I saw the start of the horror of the internet. "Pregnant Boys." A single comment covered more than half the page, which seemed to scroll on endlessly. It was just one long terrified scream of horror. That. Would be the end of SMT.
You're speaking my language, brother. I recall that very same thing as well. I was foolhardy enough to sate my curiousity in what could possibly be so pernicious, and my member has not functioned the same since.
The Tulpa status reminds me of Earthbound possession status. A little ghost haunts you, making you unable to use abilities and occasionally stunning you for a turn
the mandela effect dungeon is the final dungeon, and also a skyscraper. as you move up the floors, everything is the same except one thing and you have to find what’s changed to progress. once you finish the final boss on the roof, you unlock new game plus. it functions the same as a normal new game plus, except every character is slightly different. whether it be name, hair color, elemental affinity, etc. could be a fun gimmick
In my understanding too with the option to run away from fights, since you’d be turning your back to it that would mean retreat is also not a possibility as that would wipe your whole team.
Honestly with Slenderman you can have him just being present and buffing the side he's on passively with his main skills just being buffs, debuff removals and heals, he'd be a medic demon that you have to take out lest the buffed enemies he's in a group with overwhelm you. The summonable version would basically do the same thing, just give all of your party's stats a minor buff but his main utility is that he has all the buffs and debuff removal.
I'm coming up with an interpretation of the Tulpa as a demon that is very different from what is presented here, yet also more traditionally SMT. I'm starting with the idea of a parasitic demon created by a lonely human's mind, in the image of an idealized lover. So, slender curvy lady, skimpy armor, red hair, blue eyes, red lips- but her skin is unnaturally pale, her hair is in an unnatural anime hairstyle, and her eyeballs are oversized and a solid blue, and she's dressed in "armor" that should pop right off with any amount of physical activity. And she's got no weapons, as she's made to be a lover and not a fighter. Perhaps the man can be a solid-black figure tied by the neck to her ankle by what appears to be a chain made of shadows, lightning, or some other supernatural force. And perhaps to reference the pony origin, a tail like that of a horse. As for skills, she'd mostly have physical and charm skills, and psychic if those are in the game, or elec if psychic isn't there. She'd also resist or absorb physical, since she's not a physical being. As for weaknesses, I'm not entirely sure- fire and ice could be good starting points, representing the shock of reality potentially making a Tulpa disappear.
Off the top of my head, here are a couple of suggestions I wouldn't mind being turned into demons. The Smiling Man. BACKGROUND: A creepypasta in which a man, going on an evening walk, encounters a disturbing individual who staggers around under a lamp post, with an unnerving smile. He seems to be drunk, but he starts to inch closer to the protagonist. After asking him what he wants, the man seems to stagger away, but just when he thinks the cost is clear and he begins to continue on his walk, the protagonist hears footsteps getting louder, and realises the man is now sprinting after him. He flees, and manages to escape him and return home, wondering just who and what the smiling man's deal was. IN-GAME: his in-game model would have him stumbling around on the spot, almost like he's dancing, with a light illuminating him. He'd have high accuracy/evasion due to his speed on-foot, and would be immune to both light and dark attacks. Turn It Off Now/Spirit-programmer BACKGROUND: A gaming urban legend that spawned from Shin Megami Tensei itself! This was a rumoured error message that would appear if you had SMT I or II turned on for too long. A programmer claiming to have worked on the game stated it was included as a joke, but later copies of the game had it removed. It was proven to be a hoax in the end. IN-GAME: This would take the form of a side-quest, in which you are requested to find demon hunters that all went AWOL on the same assignment; investigate a large desolate company building, and find the source of interference with the demon-summoning programs in that area. Once inside the building, your COMP/alternative program will glitch out, before displaying the error message with a red-alert sound and a countdown. If you don't turn it off before the countdown ends, you'll get a game over, so you'll have to oblige. Unable to use the COMP, you'll be stuck with whatever demons are currently in your party, unable to summon those in your stock. You'll still encounter demons that you can recruit as you progress through the building, to ensure those with an empty party have a fighting chance, and a healing area/ Save terminal (with an out-of-service teleporter), but your usual COMP features are gone until you clear the quest. As you progress through the building, you'll find examinable rotting corpses with COMP's attached to them, all displaying the same error message, and showing you just what would happen had you not turned off your own. Once you make it to the top floor's office, you'll find the culprit; a demon who had lured COMP users to its domain and killed them for sustenance, and you see the rotting corpses of the hunters that came before. It appears to be a computer with a Pentagram on the screen and a shadowy humanoid figure standing in the centre. It's immune to electric and dark attacks, but weak to fire, and specialises in ailments. Defeating the demon will allow you to summon it through fusion accidents/ accumulating enough hours of playtime, and only the most recent hunter sent to investigate it will have been saved. In keeping with the tone of the myth, there would be a lot of mystery surrounding this side-quest.
My personal idea for Slenderman. Lv 50-70 Resists all magic, Nulls Phys, Weak to Pierce. Skills -Almighty Resist (Auto) -Makarakarn -Auto Mamudoon (Auto) -Debilitate -Luster Candy -Demon Magnet (Special Skill. Summons a demon of lower level to assist Slenderman. If you have your own summoned Slenderman, it can summon any amount of demons to battle. So let’s say it’s SMT 4. There is you and Slenderman. Slenderman can use his spell and in one turn summon two demons that are a weaker level to Slenderman.)
I feel like the red room can be an entire sub mission on it’s own, as you’re kidnapped by a group and you have to fight said group with some low health, without your arsenal of demons and restricted of your abilities, to give that addition of bondage, as you’re the captive, and the deep web is just shown by these documents and laptops that would read as a chat box being in disgust because this session went wrong Also I AM GOD can have this sort of attribute that can be an amalgamation of 4chan as it is, spawning angels as a depiction of the site’s ongoing posting of nudes, you could add incubus and succubus as the depiction of the tasteful sides of the site, and probably a gun-trotting demon to depict the shooter side of the site, after all, these could be what I AM GOD would consider as his “ideal world” which would be the world that he was formed from to say it so
Okay you got something going but how about demons category based on real life people from recent events... Well let's start with the bad one like the 2 infamous school shooters Columbine... Yeah I may have gone far with that one...
I feel like locking out your demons would be good enough... restricting skill and ability usage would be a little overkill and unrealistic in terms of a MegaTen game. They're brutal enough as is.
Synyster44 felt like locking out the abilities and spells would’ve worked to sort of check what sort of equipment you’re already riding on, like a reminder of picking up some strong weapons and such for this mission
I feel like a boss fight against slender man would be either Exclusive to the law route or be one of the requirements to get the law route because law itself is all about saftey and security no matter what even if they aren’t doing anything wrong (A good example is when merkaba kills isabeau for reading manga in the law route, sure she was in his way but he didn’t specifically say “this women is opposing the chariot of God, she deserves punishment” or something he instead says “this woman has come in contact with tokyo’s manga she is unclean and would lead we righteous ones astray”) meanwhile in neutural all you do is Bring him back in the forest like you said, I don’t know about chaos though, maybe if you go for chaos you won’t bother with him because he doesn’t pose any threat like you said because unlike law, chaos doesn’t really bother with people who aren’t stopping them (unless they could be manipulated, like the entirety of nocturne was lucifer manipulating demi-fiend to join him and make him into the powerful fiend he is)
This man really could causally fit into the main plot or a Persona game. Since Persona borrows heavily from Jungian Psychology and the demon world is more or less a representation of the collective unconscious. This man could be used as a serial killer that kills people in their dreams. I'm thinking something much more along the lines of lil slugger from Paranoia agent where the concepts change as more and more rumors spread. Maybe even borrowing some plot points from Paranoia agent and the original Persona insomuch the shadow realm was constructed by a guilt ridden conscience and in that happening as rumors spread it starts affecting peoples dreams.
My favorite depiction of Slenderman is from Kingdom Death: Monster, where he fucks with the survivors by attacking them and wiping their memory of him. So the next time he comes around, no one remembers him and isn't ready to fight him. Sometimes he even just chills in the middle of town watching people, but no one does anything because they can't remember seeing him long enough to react. A side effect of this is the insanity it causes. People killed by Slenderman are forgotten, but it's clear someone used to be there. Those that come into contact with the Dark Water he summons can recognize his effect faster, but they often go crazy and mutilate themselves to avoid him. It's a very interesting spin on the normal Slenderman mythos. Edit addon: I really love the idea for Slenderman they came up with in the vid. That would be so much fun.
Why not instead make the Mandela Effect a status effect? I imagine it would come late in the game when you've got all your main demons and instead of actually doing anything in battle, it would switching around menu items like your skill or item orders. It would play on muscle memory, causing you select the wrong things or search for things that are in the wrong slot. It would, of course, be exclusive to Arpa Demon bosses, and Arpa Demons on your team are immune to it.
Almost 2 years later and I am rewatching this video. Okay, that skinwalker quest. You guys said it could end with the fake and real party member get into a tussle and you need to figure out which one is the real one. How about at that part the skinwalker fully perfected the form. The only way to get a good ending to the quest is to remember the weakness of the skinwalker, since it has different weaknesses/resistance.
I picture the Polybius Demon more as a generic, haunted arcade cabinet. Part of the lore would be people dying in front of it, playing the cabinet, and prying themselves away only to go missing. But it would be a funny looking arcade cabinet with a Jack Frost face on the game screen in pixels. It would have arms that are ghostly that pull the player in, and it would jostle around to have an animation. When it gets hit the game screen will flicker and flash an explosive pixel graphic.
You can only dream about faces that you've seen before. This means, that technically no one has ever seen that man until that got popular, but AFTER he got popular, a LOT of people probably saw that man.
One concept for an enemy that I thought of is an unwilling demon Summoner. What I mean is an enemy that had some sort of demon summoning device wired themselves to a host, and the host forced to use recruit demons, with control over their own bodies being minimal. In battle they only use physical skills, but to compensate they can take a turn to summon a demon to the battle, maybe at the cost of some health. Maybe a sidequest involving them is where you can go into some sort of abandoned facility and fight a horde of them, with a big one that doesnt have a host that will mainly cast mental based status ailments (ex: brainwash or charm) and psychic skills, and maybe for some diversity they can occasionally toss a zionga or ziodyne your way
This is quite a interesting take on making new demons for SMT. Considering that back then it was about stories about dieties or creatures from the past. But now it can be used from modern stories about certain creatures or rumors from the internet. A good concept that I do love
@@banticraider depends. Some characters might not have copyright and can be internet rumors. Just like how slenderman isn't copyrighted and some movies have used this in their favor
Just came up with away CICADA 3301 could work. Lets say this SMT Game has 10 different damage types, and with 5 clues the location is unlocked and you can enter the CICADA bossfights. The Trick is that there were actually 10 clues, and while you can go and fight the boss immediately the number of clues you hold will lock into place its Weaknesses. [X][X][¿?][¿?][X][¿?][X][¿?][¿?][X] In essence, CICADA will randomly change # number of its weaknesses for every clue you are missing every time you try again to fight it, making it difficult to plan a team for the fight with it.
Here’s an idea. This is a creepypasta that was the first one I had ever liked. Kagome Kagome, or the circle children. I had a friend who loved these stories and one time showed a group of us some videos in regard to his favorites. Didn’t really liked them back then except the last one which sounds like a Japanese folktale. Basically back in WW2 there were a lot of fucked up experiments the Nazis done and one of these was dealing with the prospect of immortality. They ended up figuring out what’s causing mortality and reversed this kill Switch in these children’s brains and then they end up getting really fucked up creepy. In which at the end of it all leads to the more “legend” aspects like wondering into an abandoned house to find these children and their caretaker to only then possibly be roped into all these messes that would kill you like playing the circle game or getting locked out of the room to face your worst fears.
Now for the SMT aspects well I can see it as a boss demon you have to summon by getting all these creepy children together to then hold hands and then their faces all contort and become vile as you face them. Status effects may include stuff like fear or maybe dizzy/confusion depending on everything. And really it’s more like a battle of endurance since you can’t actually kill the demon, but you can do stuff to try to last long enough before they let you out of their game.
39:15 I like how the image says Anomymous instead of Anonymous. And also how Facebook, Wikipedia, and TH-cam are all spelled in lower case. I find that pretty funny.
The "tulpa" status effect already exists, it's called "possession", if a demon possesses any of your party members they will be stuck with whatever spells or attacks the demon had until you cure the possession status.
“Nuke and Psychic were brought back in Persona 5 so they’re probably coming to mainstream SMT” I mean Wind has been in Persona for over a decade and ain’t in SMT proper
for the mamdela effect thing you were talking about, I was thinking that like, a faint graphic could be added to the title screen, a certian thing could be flipped. Think the subtler scares/oddities that Doki Doki does
Nutrul = slender man You stop god from destroying humanity and stop Lucifer from bringing open the apocalypse Order = I am god You stop Lucifer from bringing the apocalypse but all of humanity is destroyed Chaos = the scarlet king You stop god from destroying humanity but all of humanity starts killing each other and the apocalypse starts
Heres a persona one Ray and Ray: Starting level 28: resists fire, strong against water and weak against almighty attacks (Origin soup.avi) Appearance: Two twins wearing a head mask (Same as in the video) and a whole black outfit with a apron, both are holding hands. Story: Two normal brothers working at a soup stall, while at night they work as performers, died during a wildfire in one of their shows in their hometown, now people who go to where their last preformed (which has been abandoned) will suddenly fall asleep during the process they will fall into a coma, stuck in a dream where they are force to eat soup in the brothers soup stall for the duration of the coma. Starting Abilities: Media Diarama Agilao Level 29: Mediarama Level 30: Ominous Words Level 31: Giant Slice
So what you're telling me, is that the Mandela Effect is actually just Crazy Talk Requiem, which affects everybody as opposed to just Pat? (Does anyone get this joke?)
Here's another idea turning people from recent books into smt demons... I've only heard of these recently but I would love to see Taylor Herbert from Worm as a SMT Demon and Harry Dresden from the Dresden files! Edit: For those wondering I discovered them from TV tropes... Also from the small things I've heard so far Taylor would be Similar to Beelzebub and Harry would heavily be magic based...
I don't know much about Taylor but I do know that Harry would be a fire based demon of the Undead race with an affinity for Fire and Force spells. his moveset would probably be something like Maragidyne/Trisagion Mazandyne Sabbatama Heat Riser Focus Shooting Spree going through the list Maragidyne and/or Trisagion are due to his heavy affinity for fire, and his high power from them Mazandyne is for the same reason, he uses a lot of force spells as said in Sabbatama, he's' known for summoning demons, so it's a pretty appropriate spell. Heat riser is because of an ability that he gains later on, called Soulfire, causing him to chip off a part of his own soul to boost his spells. focus works off the same concept. Shooting spree is due to his affinity for guns, and his main attack would probably be gun element as well. (spoilers for Dresden files) The reason he's part of the Undead race is because he dies and comes back through a complicated series of events
@@AX-ROSE (Was gonna comment earlier but my phone was dying.) So in that case I'm assuming Harry Dresden becomes a special fusion or does he needs to be accidentally fusion summon or is it in the case like Dante where the player recruits him? His alignment would probably be Neutral although as for his level I'm not sure... I'm sure also as he levels up probably gets the Invitation and maybe endure. Since he's undead he's weakness is light. As for the other again I don't know much about worm but Taylor has the ability to control bugs so she's a mix of Beelzebub and ailment attacks.
I put in my SMT4 cartridge into my 3DS and then Jack Frost came out of the screen with hyper realistic blood eyes and hee-ho'd me.
Well it's a 3ds of course he's going to appear to come out of the screen
@River Bradley bro it’s too obvious
I wish I could get hee-ho'd by someone without having to pay.
It'd be even funnier if it's just the PNG image of him since there aren't any 3D models of him in the game
Man i gotta fix mine charger port messed up
I feel like Rumor would be the best category for these kinds of demons, since they're just modern urban legends and rumors.
Maya Sanguinis but ARPA is a fucking cool name category
So like Persona 2?
Or you know “Urban”
Bigfoot and UFO would be low level versions obviously
I think Rumor would fit things more like Mothman and Sasquatch. ARPA fits internet myths better.
> Party member is a skinwalker
*_uses Megidolaon at level 30_*
What if the Mandela effect dungeon "restarted" the game but takes the story in a wildly different direction
Either that or one of your party members references something that didn't happen and it turns out your whole party was shuffled with versions of themselves from different universes/timelines and at the goal of the dungeon is to unite the parties properly
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I'm late to answer but holy shit that would be a mind fuck...
Thats some MGS2 shit
@@nickelakon5369 I feel like this one would fit better rather then the game restart because from my understanding the mandela effect is for a little bit more subtle things
That sounds great as a final dungeon effect
I like the idea of the "Tulpamancers" not being a group of people that are trying to inflict their illness on you, but a group of Persona who have lost control over their Personas and that seek to find a way to remove theirs in their moments of lucidity. Their affliction is what happens when they awaken to a Persona but something changes in their lives that alters them so drastically as a person (SEVERE trauma) that they can no longer associate with the image that they used as their shield against hardship. Left with nowhere to go, the Persona runs rampant through their minds and whatever parallel reality is being used as the medium for their manifestation in this iteration. A lot of the horror stories about tulpas come from the idea of the tulpa user losing control over the tulpa and it then running wild through the person's psyche, and I think that there's a strong case that could be made for a character faction like this in a Persona series game.
This is really really cool, and feels like it could be an arc for a confidant in a persona game, with the end result of course resulting in their persona evolving (in this case becoming closer to the users new look on life)
Isn’t that kinda like what happened to Chidori?
With regard to SCP demons, have you thought about the SCP foundation itself? The idea of a bunch of humans/demons that suddenly become deluded into locking up "unidentified phenomena" and performing nonsensical tests so they can write inane reports
The scp foundation itself sounds like an SMT plot tbh
TheRadiantDawn it's just the plot of Control as well
the foundation is a dungeon and you have to get in to get one thats a plot crucial item, causing a containment breach in the process
It'd be interesting to have the SCP Foundation as a demon, the ultimate caricature of antianomalous containment groups, a Men-In-Black figure with a labcoat, holding a massive magnifying glass (scientist personal), despite it's head being a mass of security cameras (constant surveillance).
It would be able to Inflict immobilising ailments and debuffs (containment procedures), has a unique skill that inflicts Forget (amnestics) and another unique or common Skill remove Forget on itself or allies (mnestics), and it's only damaging Skills are Gun Skills (MTF), the only saving grace is that it's weak to Light, Dark and Gun but resist Physical.
I'd have the demon also be a fusion accident, but features in a quest as the main focus is to capture notable or strange demons or even their fellow A.R.F.A./Rumor demons and give these demons to them, until turning on the player as they realise you're technically anomalous yourself, and also working with a group of anomalous cohorts in the form of demons or Personas, literally calling you a Group of Interest and start a fight with it.
My only other SCP demon idea is the SPC, but as an antireward for players wanting an easy way to do fusion accidents without inputting any effort, with a ton of weaknesses to Magic and Physical types and only knowing punch based Physical or Strike Skills to be as useless as possible, even in early game.
That’s already an SCP
the "i am god" boss fight starts against a bunch of random red pixels and everytime you beat one they multiply until you get the full face, and when he smirks the icon is his face inside the green square that starts flashing red
It feels comforting hearing Flair's voice again in the channel
And in an SMT video no less
Also i might even do some of these demons myself, even
I'm not that good of an artist but hey i can at least try
02:09 Polybius
07:50 ARPA RACE
08:58 Haunted Cartridges
12:45 Tulpa/Tulpamancer
20:30 xd
20:40 SCP-173 "The Sculpture"
22:34 poopy
26:08 Skinwalker
36:20 Red Room
38:53 Deep web
41:30 I AM GOD
43:59 Bruh moment
49:59 Slenderman
59:27 Have you seen this man?
01:03:58 Cicada 3301
01:08:28 Mændælæ Æffæct
I'm not the God, YOU ARE THE GOD HERE
I actually thought bruh moment would be a demon (lvl 73) uses agi and almighty spells, high counter, makarakarn
Rpls everything
0/10 untapped potential - this really is a “Bruh Moment”
Fither: Let's make a video about creepypasta demons!
Meti: *makes Yu-Gi-Oh! cards*
This is just begging to be turned into a fangame. I can already imagine the name: "Shit Megami Tensei
DON'T
TEMPT
ME
@@RegenWasTaken I mean I'm down to help if somebody starts it
Shit I do pixel art I'll help
Shit Mecoomi Testicle: Digital Devil Sharter
I mean, there are Demons based on then Urban legends not just mythology and religion so yeah. Honestly, it'd be cool to see these actually become demons. That'd be fun.
Chemtrail is an SMT demon based off a conspiracy theory if I recall correctly.
Soul Hackers had a whole race of demons dedicated to Japanese Urban legends like Red Cape, Turbo Granny and Purple Mirror
There is a lot of urban legend based demon on P2 so it wouldn't be farfetched. The more the better.
DMD00 _t-turbo granny????_
Literally mothman.
I'm going to be disappointed if Sonichu in isn't talked about
if you check Christine's official twitter, teddie is now canon in sonichu
Sonichu . . .
Roses are red,
High School is crazy,
When the Dark Hour comes....
(Grabs Evoker)
BABY, BABY, BABY, BABY, BABY, BABY
@@keith3278 ok Keith
You what now? Has chris chan started playing persona?
@@trainerwsm I can't wait for the Phantom Thieves to enter the Sonichuverse
The idea of urban legend demons is amazing, I imagine a polybius as a demon to be a malnourished souless husk wearing horse blinders with a arcade machine riding on it's back using a harness of wires using connected to the joystick being the "driving" hand, with the arcade machine itself having a digital face on the screen is.
An internet-based faction, that is a group of hackers that constantly summon these kind of demons would be interesting in a smt story
From creepy-pastas to scps, there's alot you can go through
And I really like the idea to personalize these creatures or 'concepts' on Kaneko's artstyle
So reverse Soul Hackers
I know I'm late but the SCP foundation could be the law faction and 4chan/reddit/some other fucking social media platform could be the chaos faction.
My guy Mothman becoming creepy
I adore the idea of that skinwalker quest. Having one of your party members switched out for a skinwalker and going back to the weird city of twins to recover your friend sounds like it would make for a very memorable quest
a good alignment choice would be if you kill Slender Man or just leave him alone in the woods after his fight.
I like the idea of Tulpa only being cured by engaging in conversation with a demon and then instead of recruiting them, shunting them onto them and then them leaving with the Tulpa now attached to them. Perhaps doing this would cause a random event where a battle with the same type of demon would result in them calling you out for cursing them and getting a free attack (or thanking you, could be different for each demon)
EDIT: I haven't yet finished the video, but I always personally joke about a recurring antagonist in a future Persona game who is kind of a joke and has his Persona as Sewer Gator.
So. Back when Fakku was still free. I'd occasionally scroll on through. And one time, I saw the start of the horror of the internet. "Pregnant Boys." A single comment covered more than half the page, which seemed to scroll on endlessly. It was just one long terrified scream of horror. That. Would be the end of SMT.
Bruh alignment ending, that's what that is.
Miyamoto supports Mpreg. He's Bowser Jr's mother after all
You're speaking my language, brother. I recall that very same thing as well. I was foolhardy enough to sate my curiousity in what could possibly be so pernicious, and my member has not functioned the same since.
But... But... How baby born...?
Pregnant Boys are the future. I would know, that's my kink.
The Tulpa status reminds me of Earthbound possession status. A little ghost haunts you, making you unable to use abilities and occasionally stunning you for a turn
the mandela effect dungeon is the final dungeon, and also a skyscraper. as you move up the floors, everything is the same except one thing and you have to find what’s changed to progress. once you finish the final boss on the roof, you unlock new game plus. it functions the same as a normal new game plus, except every character is slightly different. whether it be name, hair color, elemental affinity, etc. could be a fun gimmick
A little late to the party, but I like the idea of the SCP demon having an Almighty Insta-kill move that always works on blinded characters.
In my understanding too with the option to run away from fights, since you’d be turning your back to it that would mean retreat is also not a possibility as that would wipe your whole team.
Honestly with Slenderman you can have him just being present and buffing the side he's on passively with his main skills just being buffs, debuff removals and heals, he'd be a medic demon that you have to take out lest the buffed enemies he's in a group with overwhelm you.
The summonable version would basically do the same thing, just give all of your party's stats a minor buff but his main utility is that he has all the buffs and debuff removal.
Keep coming back to this amazing video hoping it doesn't get privated like the rest of Fither's legacy content
What? Why he's putting videos on private?
I'm coming up with an interpretation of the Tulpa as a demon that is very different from what is presented here, yet also more traditionally SMT.
I'm starting with the idea of a parasitic demon created by a lonely human's mind, in the image of an idealized lover. So, slender curvy lady, skimpy armor, red hair, blue eyes, red lips- but her skin is unnaturally pale, her hair is in an unnatural anime hairstyle, and her eyeballs are oversized and a solid blue, and she's dressed in "armor" that should pop right off with any amount of physical activity. And she's got no weapons, as she's made to be a lover and not a fighter. Perhaps the man can be a solid-black figure tied by the neck to her ankle by what appears to be a chain made of shadows, lightning, or some other supernatural force. And perhaps to reference the pony origin, a tail like that of a horse.
As for skills, she'd mostly have physical and charm skills, and psychic if those are in the game, or elec if psychic isn't there. She'd also resist or absorb physical, since she's not a physical being. As for weaknesses, I'm not entirely sure- fire and ice could be good starting points, representing the shock of reality potentially making a Tulpa disappear.
Off the top of my head, here are a couple of suggestions I wouldn't mind being turned into demons.
The Smiling Man.
BACKGROUND: A creepypasta in which a man, going on an evening walk, encounters a disturbing individual who staggers around under a lamp post, with an unnerving smile. He seems to be drunk, but he starts to inch closer to the protagonist. After asking him what he wants, the man seems to stagger away, but just when he thinks the cost is clear and he begins to continue on his walk, the protagonist hears footsteps getting louder, and realises the man is now sprinting after him. He flees, and manages to escape him and return home, wondering just who and what the smiling man's deal was.
IN-GAME: his in-game model would have him stumbling around on the spot, almost like he's dancing, with a light illuminating him. He'd have high accuracy/evasion due to his speed on-foot, and would be immune to both light and dark attacks.
Turn It Off Now/Spirit-programmer
BACKGROUND: A gaming urban legend that spawned from Shin Megami Tensei itself! This was a rumoured error message that would appear if you had SMT I or II turned on for too long. A programmer claiming to have worked on the game stated it was included as a joke, but later copies of the game had it removed. It was proven to be a hoax in the end.
IN-GAME: This would take the form of a side-quest, in which you are requested to find demon hunters that all went AWOL on the same assignment; investigate a large desolate company building, and find the source of interference with the demon-summoning programs in that area.
Once inside the building, your COMP/alternative program will glitch out, before displaying the error message with a red-alert sound and a countdown. If you don't turn it off before the countdown ends, you'll get a game over, so you'll have to oblige. Unable to use the COMP, you'll be stuck with whatever demons are currently in your party, unable to summon those in your stock. You'll still encounter demons that you can recruit as you progress through the building, to ensure those with an empty party have a fighting chance, and a healing area/ Save terminal (with an out-of-service teleporter), but your usual COMP features are gone until you clear the quest.
As you progress through the building, you'll find examinable rotting corpses with COMP's attached to them, all displaying the same error message, and showing you just what would happen had you not turned off your own.
Once you make it to the top floor's office, you'll find the culprit; a demon who had lured COMP users to its domain and killed them for sustenance, and you see the rotting corpses of the hunters that came before. It appears to be a computer with a Pentagram on the screen and a shadowy humanoid figure standing in the centre. It's immune to electric and dark attacks, but weak to fire, and specialises in ailments. Defeating the demon will allow you to summon it through fusion accidents/ accumulating enough hours of playtime, and only the most recent hunter sent to investigate it will have been saved. In keeping with the tone of the myth, there would be a lot of mystery surrounding this side-quest.
My personal idea for Slenderman.
Lv 50-70
Resists all magic, Nulls Phys, Weak to Pierce.
Skills
-Almighty Resist (Auto)
-Makarakarn
-Auto Mamudoon (Auto)
-Debilitate
-Luster Candy
-Demon Magnet
(Special Skill. Summons a demon of lower level to assist Slenderman. If you have your own summoned Slenderman, it can summon any amount of demons to battle. So let’s say it’s SMT 4. There is you and Slenderman. Slenderman can use his spell and in one turn summon two demons that are a weaker level to Slenderman.)
I feel like the red room can be an entire sub mission on it’s own, as you’re kidnapped by a group and you have to fight said group with some low health, without your arsenal of demons and restricted of your abilities, to give that addition of bondage, as you’re the captive, and the deep web is just shown by these documents and laptops that would read as a chat box being in disgust because this session went wrong
Also I AM GOD can have this sort of attribute that can be an amalgamation of 4chan as it is, spawning angels as a depiction of the site’s ongoing posting of nudes, you could add incubus and succubus as the depiction of the tasteful sides of the site, and probably a gun-trotting demon to depict the shooter side of the site, after all, these could be what I AM GOD would consider as his “ideal world” which would be the world that he was formed from to say it so
Okay you got something going but how about demons category based on real life people from recent events...
Well let's start with the bad one like the 2 infamous school shooters Columbine...
Yeah I may have gone far with that one...
I feel like locking out your demons would be good enough... restricting skill and ability usage would be a little overkill and unrealistic in terms of a MegaTen game. They're brutal enough as is.
Synyster44 felt like locking out the abilities and spells would’ve worked to sort of check what sort of equipment you’re already riding on, like a reminder of picking up some strong weapons and such for this mission
for the i am god thing, i imagine a segmented coffin with a scrambled version of the face being held by eyeless dolls
I feel like a boss fight against slender man would be either Exclusive to the law route or be one of the requirements to get the law route because law itself is all about saftey and security no matter what even if they aren’t doing anything wrong (A good example is when merkaba kills isabeau for reading manga in the law route, sure she was in his way but he didn’t specifically say “this women is opposing the chariot of God, she deserves punishment” or something he instead says “this woman has come in contact with tokyo’s manga she is unclean and would lead we righteous ones astray”) meanwhile in neutural all you do is Bring him back in the forest like you said, I don’t know about chaos though, maybe if you go for chaos you won’t bother with him because he doesn’t pose any threat like you said because unlike law, chaos doesn’t really bother with people who aren’t stopping them (unless they could be manipulated, like the entirety of nocturne was lucifer manipulating demi-fiend to join him and make him into the powerful fiend he is)
This man really could causally fit into the main plot or a Persona game. Since Persona borrows heavily from Jungian Psychology and the demon world is more or less a representation of the collective unconscious. This man could be used as a serial killer that kills people in their dreams. I'm thinking something much more along the lines of lil slugger from Paranoia agent where the concepts change as more and more rumors spread. Maybe even borrowing some plot points from Paranoia agent and the original Persona insomuch the shadow realm was constructed by a guilt ridden conscience and in that happening as rumors spread it starts affecting peoples dreams.
Maybe we need a part 2 of this discussion!?!
Makes an entire video on creepypasta, doesn't have a boss fight with Flying Spaghetti Monster replacing YHVH
smh
I'd like to see a holiday themed one. Saint Nicholas as an agent of YHVH, maybe some giant death turkey covered in pox for thanksgiving.
My favorite depiction of Slenderman is from Kingdom Death: Monster, where he fucks with the survivors by attacking them and wiping their memory of him. So the next time he comes around, no one remembers him and isn't ready to fight him. Sometimes he even just chills in the middle of town watching people, but no one does anything because they can't remember seeing him long enough to react.
A side effect of this is the insanity it causes. People killed by Slenderman are forgotten, but it's clear someone used to be there. Those that come into contact with the Dark Water he summons can recognize his effect faster, but they often go crazy and mutilate themselves to avoid him.
It's a very interesting spin on the normal Slenderman mythos.
Edit addon: I really love the idea for Slenderman they came up with in the vid. That would be so much fun.
Title ideas:
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil's Web
Shin Megami Tensei: Harddrive
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil's Site
Shin Megoomi Tensay
I would see those being the name of the next devil summoner (that is if we ever get another one.)
@@yorgo2255 A new Devil Summoner game would be fun
When you end the cicada quest the person who gives you the reward is a 3 am prank channel guy playing Charley Charley
Jeff the killer would be like a low level demon, but I’d Imagine smile dog being a somewhat difficult demon
SMT 5: Featuring Chills From The Chills TH-cam™ Channel
Burger King foot lettuce.
he should be the superboss in the re release
Red from the NES Godzilla Creepypasta would be one hell of a demon in SMT
I'm surprised these hasn't really happened yet, it really connects to the whole demon downloader root of MegaTen
35:12 So you are suggesting the Skinwalker be SMT's Spinda?
Why not instead make the Mandela Effect a status effect? I imagine it would come late in the game when you've got all your main demons and instead of actually doing anything in battle, it would switching around menu items like your skill or item orders. It would play on muscle memory, causing you select the wrong things or search for things that are in the wrong slot. It would, of course, be exclusive to Arpa Demon bosses, and Arpa Demons on your team are immune to it.
Almost 2 years later and I am rewatching this video.
Okay, that skinwalker quest. You guys said it could end with the fake and real party member get into a tussle and you need to figure out which one is the real one.
How about at that part the skinwalker fully perfected the form. The only way to get a good ending to the quest is to remember the weakness of the skinwalker, since it has different weaknesses/resistance.
I picture the Polybius Demon more as a generic, haunted arcade cabinet. Part of the lore would be people dying in front of it, playing the cabinet, and prying themselves away only to go missing. But it would be a funny looking arcade cabinet with a Jack Frost face on the game screen in pixels. It would have arms that are ghostly that pull the player in, and it would jostle around to have an animation. When it gets hit the game screen will flicker and flash an explosive pixel graphic.
What if I_AM_GOD had like a text-to-speech computer voice like Microsoft Sam or some shit
I am god has albert from mac and rejects all other gods
The stinky of the statue should give a suku- buff and does heavy damage + high chance of sick
In the Mandela effect dungeon the spelling of the party members names could switch up
What if after the Mæmdælæ Æffæct dungeon/boss, some names of party members, npcs, and some locations are slightly changed.
I like the Skinwalker quest idea.
You can only dream about faces that you've seen before. This means, that technically no one has ever seen that man until that got popular, but AFTER he got popular, a LOT of people probably saw that man.
slenderman should get a signature almighty skill called "marbled hornet" that inflicts fear
7:55 maybe a member of the very rare Rumor race?
One concept for an enemy that I thought of is an unwilling demon Summoner. What I mean is an enemy that had some sort of demon summoning device wired themselves to a host, and the host forced to use recruit demons, with control over their own bodies being minimal. In battle they only use physical skills, but to compensate they can take a turn to summon a demon to the battle, maybe at the cost of some health. Maybe a sidequest involving them is where you can go into some sort of abandoned facility and fight a horde of them, with a big one that doesnt have a host that will mainly cast mental based status ailments (ex: brainwash or charm) and psychic skills, and maybe for some diversity they can occasionally toss a zionga or ziodyne your way
20:34 Why can I imagine Adachi saying something that stupid? 😂
This is quite a interesting take on making new demons for SMT. Considering that back then it was about stories about dieties or creatures from the past. But now it can be used from modern stories about certain creatures or rumors from the internet.
A good concept that I do love
Seeing how this video is about creepypasta maybe the next one could be recent book characters?
Like Harry Dresden or Taylor Herbert?
Some Guy Paragon copyright
@@banticraider depends. Some characters might not have copyright and can be internet rumors.
Just like how slenderman isn't copyrighted and some movies have used this in their favor
I'd 100% be on board for another vid like this
Yeah
Just came up with away CICADA 3301 could work.
Lets say this SMT Game has 10 different damage types, and with 5 clues the location is unlocked and you can enter the CICADA bossfights. The Trick is that there were actually 10 clues, and while you can go and fight the boss immediately the number of clues you hold will lock into place its Weaknesses.
[X][X][¿?][¿?][X][¿?][X][¿?][¿?][X]
In essence, CICADA will randomly change # number of its weaknesses for every clue you are missing every time you try again to fight it, making it difficult to plan a team for the fight with it.
1:36 aaah, the hunter assossiation theme...
Slenderman during the battle: _Idon'tknowwhatsgoingonwhyiseveryonefighting_
Edit: pls make a part 2 I'd love to see more of this!! :D
Here’s an idea. This is a creepypasta that was the first one I had ever liked. Kagome Kagome, or the circle children. I had a friend who loved these stories and one time showed a group of us some videos in regard to his favorites. Didn’t really liked them back then except the last one which sounds like a Japanese folktale. Basically back in WW2 there were a lot of fucked up experiments the Nazis done and one of these was dealing with the prospect of immortality. They ended up figuring out what’s causing mortality and reversed this kill Switch in these children’s brains and then they end up getting really fucked up creepy. In which at the end of it all leads to the more “legend” aspects like wondering into an abandoned house to find these children and their caretaker to only then possibly be roped into all these messes that would kill you like playing the circle game or getting locked out of the room to face your worst fears.
Now for the SMT aspects well I can see it as a boss demon you have to summon by getting all these creepy children together to then hold hands and then their faces all contort and become vile as you face them. Status effects may include stuff like fear or maybe dizzy/confusion depending on everything. And really it’s more like a battle of endurance since you can’t actually kill the demon, but you can do stuff to try to last long enough before they let you out of their game.
I'm down for some more SMT Stuff. I loved the slenderman one.
12:17 the gamer demon should be week to light
Oh damn that’s the first time I’ve heard about tulpas in a while
Guys, what if we got lavendertowne to draw these demons?
39:15 I like how the image says Anomymous instead of Anonymous. And also how Facebook, Wikipedia, and TH-cam are all spelled in lower case. I find that pretty funny.
The "tulpa" status effect already exists, it's called "possession", if a demon possesses any of your party members they will be stuck with whatever spells or attacks the demon had until you cure the possession status.
Great job with all the new content Fither.
Oooo, Meti's here too. Enjoyed your Narancia video.
“Nuke and Psychic were brought back in Persona 5 so they’re probably coming to mainstream SMT”
I mean Wind has been in Persona for over a decade and ain’t in SMT proper
@damn, so psy is gonna be named control, and nuke is gonna be called nova
Make should make a shclock episode for a hypothetical Mothman game.
I thought the story was people thought it was Berenstain but it was actually Berenstein...
...did I just get double Mandela'd?
for the mamdela effect thing you were talking about, I was thinking that like, a faint graphic could be added to the title screen, a certian thing could be flipped. Think the subtler scares/oddities that Doki Doki does
Pretty sure theres a "this man" manga too
Godzilla needs to be a high level nuclear/fire element Tyrant demon in Smt.
Godzilla would definitely be a late game boss
I love myself some creepypasta and internet myths.
Your pfp disturbs me
@Малиновый Шторм i'm a avid hentai reader, i'm just not a fan of the ahegao.
You could make a game with only demons from latin america tbh
Now I want to draw designs for all of these.
I'm expecting Donkey Kong 5 to be talked about in this video. Prime candidate for a new demon.
Honestly for the first 2 minutes I thought meti was just fither but like with a sore throat
Great and entertaining video. Really made the last hour of my shift at work tolerable. Keep it up.
Smt 5 with earth, nuclear and psi damage... make it happen.
what about aqua from p2 too lol
Queen is my favorite band how come aqua wasn’t in P5? It didn’t make sense for ice to be there if there wasn’t a water element ;-;
@@queenismyfavoriteband9904 didn't knew that aqua was a thing
@@Charle_Z if there's a ice element, get a water element.
hmmmm
Please make another! This is one of my favorite videos
This sounds like a much better premise for a yiik monster list
No the person that’s controlling all the myth/creepypasta demons is mutahar
This Man will appear in battle when you get the sleep status condition
We need some more Flair action, he’s cool
5:02 old world blues is all that comes to my mind
Dr Clef
Race: Wilder
SCP-3812
Race: Deity
Nutrul = slender man
You stop god from destroying humanity and stop Lucifer from bringing open the apocalypse
Order = I am god
You stop Lucifer from bringing the apocalypse but all of humanity is destroyed
Chaos = the scarlet king
You stop god from destroying humanity but all of humanity starts killing each other and the apocalypse starts
fun fact, the dr.who weeping angles came AFTER SCP-173
I haven't seen this one yet since it's so long. But please tell me they did Kevin from the Huniepop Creepypasta. Best creepypasta character esily.
Heres a persona one
Ray and Ray: Starting level 28: resists fire, strong against water and weak against almighty attacks (Origin soup.avi)
Appearance: Two twins wearing a head mask (Same as in the video) and a whole black outfit with a apron, both are holding hands.
Story: Two normal brothers working at a soup stall, while at night they work as performers, died during a wildfire in one of their shows in their hometown, now people who go to where their last preformed (which has been abandoned) will suddenly fall asleep during the process they will fall into a coma, stuck in a dream where they are force to eat soup in the brothers soup stall for the duration of the coma.
Starting Abilities:
Media
Diarama
Agilao
Level 29: Mediarama
Level 30: Ominous Words
Level 31: Giant Slice
So what you're telling me, is that the Mandela Effect is actually just Crazy Talk Requiem, which affects everybody as opposed to just Pat? (Does anyone get this joke?)
Pat from Super Best Friends. Alternatively, Pat Stares At.
Mason Adams Patrick Boivin formerly of super best friends play
@Mason Adams the man with his own stand
Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies.
Here's another idea turning people from recent books into smt demons...
I've only heard of these recently but I would love to see Taylor Herbert from Worm as a SMT Demon and Harry Dresden from the Dresden files!
Edit: For those wondering I discovered them from TV tropes...
Also from the small things I've heard so far Taylor would be Similar to Beelzebub and Harry would heavily be magic based...
I don't know much about Taylor but I do know that Harry would be a fire based demon of the Undead race with an affinity for Fire and Force spells. his moveset would probably be something like
Maragidyne/Trisagion
Mazandyne
Sabbatama
Heat Riser
Focus
Shooting Spree
going through the list
Maragidyne and/or Trisagion are due to his heavy affinity for fire, and his high power from them
Mazandyne is for the same reason, he uses a lot of force spells
as said in Sabbatama, he's' known for summoning demons, so it's a pretty appropriate spell.
Heat riser is because of an ability that he gains later on, called Soulfire, causing him to chip off a part of his own soul to boost his spells. focus works off the same concept.
Shooting spree is due to his affinity for guns, and his main attack would probably be gun element as well.
(spoilers for Dresden files)
The reason he's part of the Undead race is because he dies and comes back through a complicated series of events
@@AX-ROSE
(Was gonna comment earlier but my phone was dying.) So in that case I'm assuming Harry Dresden becomes a special fusion or does he needs to be accidentally fusion summon or is it in the case like Dante where the player recruits him? His alignment would probably be Neutral although as for his level I'm not sure...
I'm sure also as he levels up probably gets the Invitation and maybe endure.
Since he's undead he's weakness is light.
As for the other again I don't know much about worm but Taylor has the ability to control bugs so she's a mix of Beelzebub and ailment attacks.
It's quite obvious why Slenderman is there...
dude just wants his $20
I honestly like the Skinwalker idea.
The Mandela effect changes your save file location
Just putting this out there, but since Sega owns Atlus ee actually could get Sonic.exe qs a demon
Is it too late to want a part 2?