As a big fan of the Frost family, I fully agree Queen Frost should make a modern appearance. Also, one of my main wishes for future Megaten titles is for Jack The Ripper to make a proper 3D appearance in a mainline game so all 3 Jack Bros can be together again.
Having Dead Lobster and Sewer Gator as part of The Fool line in Persona 6 would be dope. They could even include a Morgana reference with an unlucky black cat demon.
I agree with the Queen Frost pic, in fact there are a couple of other demons that are Devil Children exclusive that need to be brought into the main games, such as Paramese (Now if that is not a mascot for a in-universe brand i am stumped.) or Skull Crown as a Pyro Jack Evolution
Here's one, Mammon, the seven deadly sin demons are rather lopsidedly represented in SMT like Lucifer, Satan, Beelzebub and Belphegor appear like all the time but then there's Asmodeus, Leviathan and especially Mammon who barely appear, honestly I think all 7 should be in most major games, but Mammon especially has two designs but really just one, first Mammon has a Devil Children design and then a P5 design which is just Shadow Okumura's boss fight version who doesn't even transform, it just feels weird to me that a demon that represents one of the seven deadly sins, a widely known concept, is completely neglected in SMT especially when Belphegor, who isn't plot important like Lucifer, appears pretty frequently. Edit: (Mammon does appear in older games too actually, specifically Megami Tensei II and Shin Megami Tensei if, but he's still barely there in the series regardless)
Sweet selection of demons. Honestly, one demon I'd like to see come back is Druj from Megaten II and if. Beelzebub may have the fly quota filled, but I think it'd be neat to see this design in a 3D setting. Besides, there aren't that many insect ladies in media. For another, Selket could use an update to her model, considering her last appearance was in King Abaddon. Another design I'd like to see is Leprechaun, purely because of his singular appearance in Soul Hackers....and DemiKids. The fact that he's only appeared in Soul Hackers is baffling. Leprechauns are one of the most famous myths in Irish folklore, so why not bring him back? Also, please bring Queen Frost into 3D, Atlus. She has been stuck in the castle for far too long.
I'd definitely be down for seeing Druj again. I actually first saw her long before I ever became a MegaTen fan. I found her sprite on some RPG Maker website and I remember making a boss fight using her sprite and I called her Beelzebabe XD
Are you sure there aren't that many insect ladies in media? It feels like there *should* be more. Though off the top of my head, i can only think of Megaera and the Empusa enemies from God of War: Ascension, that one mosquitoe fuel marauder lady from the 3D animated He-Man and the Masters of the Universe cartoon (2021), the bee queen character from Darkstalkers... and Bug Fables of course has many, but that's where my knowledge ends.
If queen frost is brought back I hope she's renamed to snow queen to at least tie her to a mythos since king frost can be tied to a slavic tale of the story of king frost in the yellow fairy book
As someone who only knows demons from the Persona series and some modern Megaten games its so fun and interesting to see demons I've never seen in my life- Thanks again for the great work man!!
That's a big part of why I wanted to do this list. There are so many cool demons that we just don't see anymore and it's why I get really excited when we see stuff we haven't seen in a bunch of other recent games showing up.
Brynhildr's First and last apperance - Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis (1995) I feel that her tragic story could perfect for Persona at very least. A former human princess that became a Valkyrie her good looks and pure actions. Valkyrie that changed fate of humans and punished by Odin, she was cursed to sleep for eternity in castle surround by fire. She was awaken by the most brave prince (Sigfried - who appears in a lot of games.) Persona could be a fun way to show case the act. Maybe as Persona, she is sent to kill or collect a soul but she refuse to do so. An evil entity curses her sleep until right person awaken her, she becomes the persona of that entity. She vows to protect that person and she was never "evil", she was just following orders. If she gets "evolved" form maybe she can evolve into Freyja - Queens of Valkyries. In Shin Megami Tensei, maybe she is a former Valkyrie that wants revenge from Odin and she needs "awake" up to be at full power.
Leviathan is such a weird figure because like...for as much as it has appeared in the franchise, it doesn't really have a consistent design. The Devil Summoner design is just one of the Zeed forms, which is the only time it arguably got Kaneko art. In Persona 2 it looks like palette swap of Dagon, and technically it's appeared in both Persona 5 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, so it's not like it hasn't been around, just very rarely as an actual demon with its own identity.
@@strain42 And Even in those is specially persona 5 is such a non actual design I hope that in future games when aqua element return it would be the ultimate demon Slash persona of that element
@@strain42 This would NEVER happen, but I'd love it if this design was brought back and became Leviathan's default, or something similar: static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/b/bc/Last_Bible_New_Testament_II_Leviathan.png/revision/latest?cb=20221201125111&format=original
This would NEVER happen, but I think it'd be cool if this design of Levi (apparently from Last Bible New Testament 2) came back and became their "default", or something similar atleast. nomatterwhat615.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/20240126221805_1.jpg
Seeing La Llorona in your thumbnail genuinely warmed my heart. I love that ghoulish flamenco dancer and wished fervently that she would appear in SH2, and she never did.
I always like Nightmare. Sure he's basically just Chucky, but I just like creepy dolls as a design motif. If he appeared in a modern game I'd 100% use him.
Dead Lobster should be the start of a new Demon Race: Rumor, and in Persona they and their ilk could only appear after hearing a rumor about them in the Normal World.
Personally I feel like the Roman pantheon gets screwed over pretty constantly by simply being left out. Yeah I know they're just the Greek pantheon with the serial numbers filed off, but come on. I think the only time I've ever seen any one of them in an SMT game was Mars in Persona 2, where he's just a lower-level reskin of Ares.
I suppose if it helps, there is Fortuna, she's shown up fairly consistently in the modern day. While Tyche's just been Fortuna's compendium entry footnote, and an Accessory in P5.
Brahma as one of the Trimurti. Shiva and Vishnu have been featured prominently in the series. Their consorts (Parvati, Lakshmi & Sarasvati) often get featured as well. But where is Brahma?
Dx2 has been pretty good about bringing back the Lovecraftian folks. They've got Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep, Dagon, and Old Ones. Maybe even more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
13:46 In Soul Hackers 2, a new race of demons was added in the form of *Rumor* like Runner Grandma So the idea of superstition demons would be a fun idea
Rumor wasnt new, it came from the original Soul Hackers. Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers generally had a running theme of their demon rosters being more local legends and historical figures. This included obscure kami as well as various cryptids and other stuff. Soul Hackers 2 actually toned this down and didnt add as many.
One demon that I'd always wanted to see come back was the Carbuncle. I could totally see it being adorable and having some quite interesting abilities these days, but unfortunately its only appearance in Megami Tensei 2 was far from cute, lol. Granted, I mean, we all know how SMT is known for being adorable, right? /s It would still probably be a low-level demon, but they just didn't do much at all with it compared to what could really be done, as its only native ability ever through MT2 and the Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei version of MT2 was the base Zio. Granted, of course, I'm sure you would be able to fuse various demons into it to give it pretty much any skill you want to possibly match the kinds of abilities that I could see of it, but what I'm talking about is at base with no fusing into it. The carbuncle as it's described in South American mythology had a jointed shell like an armadillo, so Rakukaja definitely would be a possible skill. The gem also could expel gathered light that can temporarily blind a greedy person, so while Zio is an ok skill for it, I'd go more for Kouha and Sukunda or, if the Blind status were to return from Persona 1, whatever skill would be able to cause that since unfortunately the only skill that caused Blindness in Persona 1 was Fog Breath. That gem could also be crushed into a fine powder that can cure blindness, however, so ailment recovery, Sukukaja and possibly healing would also work very well.
As someone who loves Journey to the West, I love Sun Wukong/Seiten Taisei/Qitian Dasheng, but I wish his fellow pilgirms got more megami tensei love. As far as I recall, Pigsy, Sandy, and Xuanzang only got to appear in Demikids and the Persona 2 duology. Let me reunite these mythical traveling companions!
My boy Nandi hasn't been seen since the PS2 they even made a HD model for Apis for Dx2 which could easily be turned into Nandi and yet he couldn't even make it back into Reload.
Atlus isn't the company who develops the mobile game & make the models it for it; it's all SEGA. Even the demons who already appeared in Persona 5 had completely new models made for them. Additionally, Atlus have't reused any models from it, which I feel is evident by comparing the demons who were brought back in Soul Hackers 2 with their Dx2 appearance.
@@magentaface2750 Shit for real? This whole time I thought they were sharing across all the modern stuff and just changing textures, can't say I actually looked too close at Dx2 to notice clear differences.
I would love to see Chemtrail, Oliver, Chupacabra, Garrote, Mad Gasser and Viy again, I know some of them have appear often enough but I just love those oddballs a lot. Chemtrails theory is very dumb but when I saw the SMT desing it was love at first sight, Oliver and the chupacabras (also on a side note I like that SMT is one of the few sources that actually aknowledge the fact that the chupacabras was first reported on Puerto Rico and got named in Puerto Rico rather than in Mexico) are some of my coolest fringe stuff childhood memories, with Garrote and the Mad Gasser is kind of the same but in late life rather than childhood and with Viy is because a friend of mine showed my the movie and I really loved the concept, I would love for Viy to get a redesing. Edit: I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT COSMO ZOMBIE WHOSE DESING IS PEAK TOO
I want to see Caesar be implemented as demon outside of being Akihiko's Persona especially since we got Cleopatra as a demon in mainline. The interactions between the two would be interesting
For me, where the hell is Bigfoot in the franchise? He's only appeared in One game, that being SMT1, in a Kaga-saga ass event, so you go into a room in the Echo Building where you'd normally fight a Brownie, but there's a small chance where Bigfoot would appear instead! That's it? A rare event that almost no one would do in their right mind. Okay. Also, Fuhedi Mergane, the god of hunting in Mongolian Mythology. Why? I just think it would be neat.
I agree with my friend in wanting Queen frost to actually make a comeback because we've seen Jack and his brothers throughout the entire course of the series as well as his king but never the Queen. And now that we know that she does exist I think it's high time to give her A 3D design. Actually give all of these demons new 3D designs or bring them back because now this is turning into a little bit like with Pokémon where they just remove certain monsters and then replace them with all these brand new ones but never bring back certain ones only in this series it's more often than not. Also you dare tempt me with the biscuits from red lobster and the promise of a Mountain Dew Margarita being a thing........ Great now I'm hungry lol. Still awesome job with this video!
7:12 I don't even know La Llorona was ever seen in any Megaten games, but I agree mostly because I know we have Lorelei, another ghastly woman associated with the river. Imagine a silly subplot where Lorelei and La Llorona interact for any reason, like Lorelei luring a man to his death and La Llorona thinking said man looks like one of her children and butting heads with Lorelei as a result.
Not to shamelessly self-promote but Dead Lobster is an enemy in the Grimoire of Heart, the (free and very cool) Persona/SMT TTRPG I wrote! His statblock and game plan are focused on slowly floating towards a party member, then deboning them. Using weird older designs is a lot of fun so I usually gravitate towards those when making add-on content.
Me a big La Llorna supporter will always want her back even in Dx2 I beg she comes back and was excited to see her in Soul Hackers 2 but she wasn't there and that disappointed me
Three demon designs I want to see show up in new games and get 3D models are Haokah, Ictinike, and Vaka's Soul Hacker's design. I know Atlus used Vaka's SMT2 in games as resent as Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner, but his old is sorta an edited version of preta's model, and it's Soul Hacker's design is just so unique.
Recently found out that Apollo had an appearance in megami tensei (and kmt), but hasn't appeared since. This is kinda baffling seeing as how popular greek mythology is. (Also Apollo is one of my favorite deities in all of mythology, imagine having him on his sun chariot in the games?
While hes been able to appear as recently as SMT4/A, i really wanna see Lham Dearg in 3D because holy shit he was the goat of my first megaten games opening (SMT4) Plus im british so naturally im very partial to british mythscand stuff
Sebek, the crocodile god of semen would be really cool to see again. Other than that, I think everyone would like to see the terminator again, we don't see that many demons that use guns.
I’d love to see Sebek again too. Crazy how he hasn’t been used much in the series. He’s one of the most recognizable Egyptian deities. Terminator, however, isn’t actually a demon in game though. In SMT II, the game he appears in, he’s a non-recruitable human enemy that’s a part of the Messaian cult. Only way he’ll probably come back is if the Messaian cult reappears in a future game or we get an SMT II remake.
I'd say a pretty good honorable mention could be Eve as she's only really appeared as a demon in Smt Nine as exclusively an enemy encounter alongside Adam. Same goes for Terminator in 2 who appears as the "Messian" race as only an enemy lol
I’d love for Adam and Eve return one day too. Also, Terminator isn’t actually a demon. He’s actually a human, as most Messian and Gaean race enemies are. That’s why they’re enemy only. So the only he’d probably reappear in a MegaTen game is if the Messian cult reappears too. Or an SMT II remake happens.
HADES! He's is one of my FAVORITE mythological figures, and it's such a crime that he is only in THREE games, only two if you count both Persona 2's as a single entity. How has my man not gotten more love. Especially since he has SUCH a sick design in Persona 2.
My personal pick would be Cthulhu, i am shocked that he only appeared in 4 games, those being smt 2, smt if, psp remake of p2: EP and smt dx2. if i had to guess as to why he was shelved it would probably be his design having a straight up a penis in it. Maybe they decided that having Mara maxes out the per game quota of penis demons lol
Might not be the same thing, but I need to see more of the Persona 1 demon designs. They look so different and interesting! I really want to see art for all of them!
A demon I'd like to see return is Stolas of the Ars Goetia, he's appeared more than 3 times, first appearing in the original Megami Tensei and then showing up in Devil Summoner 1, Devil Children White/Fire/Ice Book, Demikids, and of course... Card Summoner.
How about Bigfoot, he is a palette swap of Wendigo and only appears in Shin Megami Tensei on the SNES. There is a room at the Echo Building that has an encounter with a Brownie, with an extreme rare chance of it being Bigfoot instead. With having well known folklore creature as party members like Wendigo and Mermaid, how amusing it would be to have Bigfoot fight alongside with you.
personally, when doing research for an oc, i stumbled across megaten's version of housoushi and it absolutely baffled me that it only appeared in a devil summoner manga then never again. it was given such a cool design, at least put it in a game!!
Soul Hackers had such a unique library of demons, I feel like a lot of them had minimal presence in other games. Of them, I think the rumor family was my favorite, with demons based on urban legends. I'm glad Running Granny has came back lately, but I feel like they all could come back. Oh, also the Juggler. Don't know what his deal was, but I just liked that character and think he could be a cool demon Other than that I'd love for the Famed demons to come back. Sure we had Masakado and Yoshitsune in almost all the games, but I think some iconic demons have been forgotten lately. Jeanne d'Arc comes to mind. Finally, I think Hannya could do a come back. With the popularity of the Yakuza/Like a Dragon franchise soaring in the past decade, Hannya is a figure that is both recognizable and deserve to have her origins more known. Heck, a new redesign could enhance the old vengeful woman!
There are so many demons I would like to see get brought back to modern games..... Anatomy, Arachne, Bukimi/Hanako(toilet ghost), Cath Palug, Dribbler(ghost w/ basketball), Gremlin, Grimies(Greys), Griffon, Iwate, Picollus(Dead Chef), Ukobach, Zombie Painting, and Zombies in general.
Arachne, Gremlin, Griffon, and Zombies appeared in SMT IV, SMT IV, and Strange Journey all on the 3DS. Gremlin also appears, 3D model and all, in Soul Hackers 2 and is confirmed to appear in SMT V Vengeance.
I would love to see Audrey return and the archtype of these movie monster being demons. Back when the series had zero chance of seeing the light of day outside of Japan, Megaten had Bettlejuice, Leatherface, Audrey II, Mickey Mouse and a few others.
one i want to see come back is sarashina-hime, mostly bc im pissed that the english dub of revelations persona named her fugly. female oni are incredibly rare, and she's an excellent femme fatale type character!
I might be wrong but i think the mobile game Dx2 release a few old demons on this list. I stopped playing it since it became too real money reliant but i do get facebook notifications at times.
Dx2 has been an AMAZING game for bringing back some long-forgotten demons, but trust me, I made sure none of the ones I mentioned in this video were in it (at last they aren’t yet)
@@strain42 lol yah, i find it funny when i got an ad for it. Sadly i don’t play Dx2 anymore (or any gacha game). Addiction got the best of me at one point :/. Gonna do my best to resist the P5 mobile game if it comes to the US 😅.
i was pretty familiar with all the demons in the list except queen frost we definitely need her to make an appearance in the future, also i never heard of dead lobster until now xD. the demon i want to make a return should be Bael he’s art it’s just different and i wonder how his 3d model would look like
Was about to come scream about Kamitachi again, cause my boi needs to be freed from Devil Children jail, but I can't cause he's been in 4 games So instead: Bathin- A member of the Goetia with one of the best designs ever that is trapped in DC jail. The jailer of hell needs to be free Bug- A demon exclusively from MT based off of a computer glitch, the first demon to have an animated sprite, which would constantly flip over. With the franchise focusing so much on our relationship with technology these days, it'd be a perfect inclusion Jabberwocky- A fun little literary demon was around back in MT and only returned for Giten Cthugha- Speaking of Giten, with Cthulhu being revived for the mobile game and Nyarla being as important to the franchise as it is, its sad the, and a quite, "Vampire of Fire" be forgtten in Giten Gilgamesh- How. How in the fuck is Gilgamesh. GILGAMESH, in DC jail Sif- Putting her in here before I can't anymore when the SMT releases come out. But yeah, Sif, Wife of Thor has only ever been in Persona 2 And since I'm lazy, imma round it out with how I started with some Goetians I wanna see get more love: Ronove- The goblin lord of hell, who has only ever appeared in the SMT4 manga. For that matter, the horned rabbit Almi'raj also needs to be unleashed from those pages Buer- The demon that appears on the goddamn cover of a Black Sabbath album and for whom I am willing to cheat to include, as his 4th appearance after IF, Majin 2 and Giten is Groove on Fight Viné- The forgotten Demon King who has not been seen since IF & Giten And a cheating shout out to Amdusias (MT2, Kuuyaku, IF & Giten) foir having one of the best designs of all time for his IF design
I know he isn't exactly unpopular but Jack the Ripper feels super underutilized in SMT. I kind of hope if he shows up again he has a side quest about how he wants to be in the Jack Bros like he used to.
The issue is that he has never been in a 3D game, and atlus is reluctant to model demons that have never been modeled before...or really model new stuff in general.
I think Gilgamesh should appear on the series more, given how he's the oldest king of mankind and stuff, apparently he only appears on the GBA games, it's a shame To this day I still can't believe La Llorona is a demon, I love it
I want atlus to bring terminator back in either a new smt game or persona 6 why? Because it’s a knight wielding an assault rifle and a shotgun with a freaking gundam jet pack what’s not to love?
Fun fact chernobog i belobogs names means black god and white god when translated to english (there the only good representation we got in video games)
It’s called Synchronicity Prologue and it was an advertising tie-in game fir Strange Journey Redux. Was officially localized and they did officially take it down but…you can get it and there’s an English patch lol
Synchronicity Prologue. It was a Search Action game they released to advertise Strange Journey Redux. It was officially delisted but...you can find it, and it even has an English translation patch. It's only a few hours, but I honestly love it.
@@CatManThree Yeah, I guess you're right. I forget that there are non demon enemies. The older games just sort of bleed together for me. I am still upset. Bring him back regardless
Are you talking about Gigas guys from Persona 3 and 4? If so, probably not. They were shadows created specifically for those games. They might reappear in a future Persona game though. If you’re talking about the real life Hulk Hogan, then it’s very unlikely. MegaTen rarely features real life people who are still alive in their games, especially as demons. Stephen is the only exception I can think of, and he’s not a demon nor explicitly the real world one either.
NOT EVEN TWO MONTHS AFTER THIS VIDEO WENT UP THEY ADDED QUEEN FROST TO Dx2!!!
Yeah, mommy frost now in the team 😏😏😏,
Here's hoping the same happens with Crusader, La Llorona, Terminator, Adam Kahmon, or even Yatsufusa
At least she's playable now, if you can get her like I did
@@Kingmegadon I really want Terminator in Dx2, I'm saving my gems for weeks to spend in his banner if Atlus launches him
@@raphbylestr2578 Sadly I was not able to get her because Dx2 has some of the worst summon rates of any gacha game I've ever played.
As a big fan of the Frost family, I fully agree Queen Frost should make a modern appearance. Also, one of my main wishes for future Megaten titles is for Jack The Ripper to make a proper 3D appearance in a mainline game so all 3 Jack Bros can be together again.
I keep hoping they'll do that. After Dx2 I thought he might've shown up in SMTV or SH2. Oh well, maybe Vengeance, right? Just gotta keep hoping.
Albiet he would get a cuter redesign I could clearly see his head becoming a smiley cartoon skull.
Hopefully they bring back Hairy Jack too. He was the goodest of boys when I used him.
Fuse all 3 of them to make the na-ho be-ho
Do not let Yusuke see the dead lobster
Yusuke is the only one I trust NOT to eat it.
But it's artistic form!
@@lazybird113 It Belongs In A Museum
Having Dead Lobster and Sewer Gator as part of The Fool line in Persona 6 would be dope. They could even include a Morgana reference with an unlucky black cat demon.
I like all of these
I agree with the Queen Frost pic, in fact there are a couple of other demons that are Devil Children exclusive that need to be brought into the main games, such as Paramese (Now if that is not a mascot for a in-universe brand i am stumped.) or Skull Crown as a Pyro Jack Evolution
Kaguya-Hime as well. She is exclusive to the PSX version of Black Book and Persona 4 Golden.
Here's one, Mammon, the seven deadly sin demons are rather lopsidedly represented in SMT like Lucifer, Satan, Beelzebub and Belphegor appear like all the time but then there's Asmodeus, Leviathan and especially Mammon who barely appear, honestly I think all 7 should be in most major games, but Mammon especially has two designs but really just one, first Mammon has a Devil Children design and then a P5 design which is just Shadow Okumura's boss fight version who doesn't even transform, it just feels weird to me that a demon that represents one of the seven deadly sins, a widely known concept, is completely neglected in SMT especially when Belphegor, who isn't plot important like Lucifer, appears pretty frequently.
Edit: (Mammon does appear in older games too actually, specifically Megami Tensei II and Shin Megami Tensei if, but he's still barely there in the series regardless)
Sweet selection of demons. Honestly, one demon I'd like to see come back is Druj from Megaten II and if. Beelzebub may have the fly quota filled, but I think it'd be neat to see this design in a 3D setting. Besides, there aren't that many insect ladies in media.
For another, Selket could use an update to her model, considering her last appearance was in King Abaddon.
Another design I'd like to see is Leprechaun, purely because of his singular appearance in Soul Hackers....and DemiKids. The fact that he's only appeared in Soul Hackers is baffling. Leprechauns are one of the most famous myths in Irish folklore, so why not bring him back?
Also, please bring Queen Frost into 3D, Atlus. She has been stuck in the castle for far too long.
I'd definitely be down for seeing Druj again. I actually first saw her long before I ever became a MegaTen fan. I found her sprite on some RPG Maker website and I remember making a boss fight using her sprite and I called her Beelzebabe XD
@@strain42That's perfect.
Are you sure there aren't that many insect ladies in media? It feels like there *should* be more.
Though off the top of my head, i can only think of Megaera and the Empusa enemies from God of War: Ascension, that one mosquitoe fuel marauder lady from the 3D animated He-Man and the Masters of the Universe cartoon (2021), the bee queen character from Darkstalkers... and Bug Fables of course has many, but that's where my knowledge ends.
If queen frost is brought back I hope she's renamed to snow queen to at least tie her to a mythos since king frost can be tied to a slavic tale of the story of king frost in the yellow fairy book
Btw Belobog also got fanart by the artist who did sobek fanart but it's definitely creepy haha...
Also eirikjrs on tumblr made this joke but where tf is stolas dudes been missing from smt games for decades at this point lmao
Personally, I’d like to see the wild hunt make a return, could do something pretty interesting with it I feel, like making it a way to rematch bosses
As someone who only knows demons from the Persona series and some modern Megaten games its so fun and interesting to see demons I've never seen in my life- Thanks again for the great work man!!
That's a big part of why I wanted to do this list. There are so many cool demons that we just don't see anymore and it's why I get really excited when we see stuff we haven't seen in a bunch of other recent games showing up.
Brynhildr's First and last apperance - Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis (1995)
I feel that her tragic story could perfect for Persona at very least.
A former human princess that became a Valkyrie her good looks and pure actions. Valkyrie that changed fate of humans and punished by Odin, she was cursed to sleep for eternity in castle surround by fire. She was awaken by the most brave prince (Sigfried - who appears in a lot of games.)
Persona could be a fun way to show case the act. Maybe as Persona, she is sent to kill or collect a soul but she refuse to do so. An evil entity curses her sleep until right person awaken her, she becomes the persona of that entity. She vows to protect that person and she was never "evil", she was just following orders. If she gets "evolved" form maybe she can evolve into Freyja - Queens of Valkyries.
In Shin Megami Tensei, maybe she is a former Valkyrie that wants revenge from Odin and she needs "awake" up to be at full power.
Levaithan not being here is my only shock because is levaithan also maiu is a demon sgin me in sailor bring him back!
Leviathan is such a weird figure because like...for as much as it has appeared in the franchise, it doesn't really have a consistent design. The Devil Summoner design is just one of the Zeed forms, which is the only time it arguably got Kaneko art. In Persona 2 it looks like palette swap of Dagon, and technically it's appeared in both Persona 5 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, so it's not like it hasn't been around, just very rarely as an actual demon with its own identity.
@@strain42 And Even in those is specially persona 5 is such a non actual design I hope that in future games when aqua element return it would be the ultimate demon Slash persona of that element
zoma and the zodiacs
@@strain42 This would NEVER happen, but I'd love it if this design was brought back and became Leviathan's default, or something similar:
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This would NEVER happen, but I think it'd be cool if this design of Levi (apparently from Last Bible New Testament 2) came back and became their "default", or something similar atleast.
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Seeing La Llorona in your thumbnail genuinely warmed my heart. I love that ghoulish flamenco dancer and wished fervently that she would appear in SH2, and she never did.
I always like Nightmare. Sure he's basically just Chucky, but I just like creepy dolls as a design motif. If he appeared in a modern game I'd 100% use him.
Dead Lobster should be the start of a new Demon Race: Rumor, and in Persona they and their ilk could only appear after hearing a rumor about them in the Normal World.
Personally I feel like the Roman pantheon gets screwed over pretty constantly by simply being left out. Yeah I know they're just the Greek pantheon with the serial numbers filed off, but come on. I think the only time I've ever seen any one of them in an SMT game was Mars in Persona 2, where he's just a lower-level reskin of Ares.
I suppose if it helps, there is Fortuna, she's shown up fairly consistently in the modern day.
While Tyche's just been Fortuna's compendium entry footnote, and an Accessory in P5.
That's right, I forgot she was a Roman goddess!
Brahma as one of the Trimurti. Shiva and Vishnu have been featured prominently in the series. Their consorts (Parvati, Lakshmi & Sarasvati) often get featured as well. But where is Brahma?
11:07 "Some of my favorite demons of all time are those found in the Ars Goetia"
*liked*
I'm loving Unicorn Overlord and just imagined adding a ton of forgotten demons in a unicorn overlord style game
Probably a common opinion, but I really want to see Cthulhu again, or just about anything from the Mythos.
Dx2 has been pretty good about bringing back the Lovecraftian folks. They've got Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep, Dagon, and Old Ones. Maybe even more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
I'd like to see a demon based on The Hound from H.P. Lovecraft's story of the same name.
Not his cat though💀
@@donovanlocust1106 we do not mention its' name. We only refer to it as his cat.
@@obsidianblack7249 >:3
Your last pick had me going from thinking Dead Lobster was a stupid concept to a brilliant one.
The fact that I was able to craft a decent argument for it is honestly a huge compliment.
13:46
In Soul Hackers 2, a new race of demons was added in the form of *Rumor* like Runner Grandma
So the idea of superstition demons would be a fun idea
Rumor wasnt new, it came from the original Soul Hackers.
Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers generally had a running theme of their demon rosters being more local legends and historical figures. This included obscure kami as well as various cryptids and other stuff. Soul Hackers 2 actually toned this down and didnt add as many.
@@CatManThreeI see them doing demons from local stuff and legends, imagine my surprise when I saw 'Drag Queen" as a demon
the Best part was when Dead Lobster said "it's Dead Lobster time" and started to deadlobstering everyone in the room
One demon that I'd always wanted to see come back was the Carbuncle. I could totally see it being adorable and having some quite interesting abilities these days, but unfortunately its only appearance in Megami Tensei 2 was far from cute, lol. Granted, I mean, we all know how SMT is known for being adorable, right? /s
It would still probably be a low-level demon, but they just didn't do much at all with it compared to what could really be done, as its only native ability ever through MT2 and the Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei version of MT2 was the base Zio. Granted, of course, I'm sure you would be able to fuse various demons into it to give it pretty much any skill you want to possibly match the kinds of abilities that I could see of it, but what I'm talking about is at base with no fusing into it.
The carbuncle as it's described in South American mythology had a jointed shell like an armadillo, so Rakukaja definitely would be a possible skill. The gem also could expel gathered light that can temporarily blind a greedy person, so while Zio is an ok skill for it, I'd go more for Kouha and Sukunda or, if the Blind status were to return from Persona 1, whatever skill would be able to cause that since unfortunately the only skill that caused Blindness in Persona 1 was Fog Breath. That gem could also be crushed into a fine powder that can cure blindness, however, so ailment recovery, Sukukaja and possibly healing would also work very well.
As someone who loves Journey to the West, I love Sun Wukong/Seiten Taisei/Qitian Dasheng, but I wish his fellow pilgirms got more megami tensei love. As far as I recall, Pigsy, Sandy, and Xuanzang only got to appear in Demikids and the Persona 2 duology. Let me reunite these mythical traveling companions!
My boy Nandi hasn't been seen since the PS2 they even made a HD model for Apis for Dx2 which could easily be turned into Nandi and yet he couldn't even make it back into Reload.
Atlus isn't the company who develops the mobile game & make the models it for it; it's all SEGA. Even the demons who already appeared in Persona 5 had completely new models made for them.
Additionally, Atlus have't reused any models from it, which I feel is evident by comparing the demons who were brought back in Soul Hackers 2 with their Dx2 appearance.
@@magentaface2750 Shit for real? This whole time I thought they were sharing across all the modern stuff and just changing textures, can't say I actually looked too close at Dx2 to notice clear differences.
I would love to see Chemtrail, Oliver, Chupacabra, Garrote, Mad Gasser and Viy again, I know some of them have appear often enough but I just love those oddballs a lot.
Chemtrails theory is very dumb but when I saw the SMT desing it was love at first sight, Oliver and the chupacabras (also on a side note I like that SMT is one of the few sources that actually aknowledge the fact that the chupacabras was first reported on Puerto Rico and got named in Puerto Rico rather than in Mexico) are some of my coolest fringe stuff childhood memories, with Garrote and the Mad Gasser is kind of the same but in late life rather than childhood and with Viy is because a friend of mine showed my the movie and I really loved the concept, I would love for Viy to get a redesing.
Edit: I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT COSMO ZOMBIE WHOSE DESING IS PEAK TOO
Because of her story role, I doubt she'll return, but I really love Inaruna from Devil Summoner.
Nice choice of demons👍
Thank you! I tried to make it a somewhat varied list.
I want to see Caesar be implemented as demon outside of being Akihiko's Persona especially since we got Cleopatra as a demon in mainline. The interactions between the two would be interesting
For me, where the hell is Bigfoot in the franchise? He's only appeared in One game, that being SMT1, in a Kaga-saga ass event, so you go into a room in the Echo Building where you'd normally fight a Brownie, but there's a small chance where Bigfoot would appear instead! That's it? A rare event that almost no one would do in their right mind. Okay.
Also, Fuhedi Mergane, the god of hunting in Mongolian Mythology. Why? I just think it would be neat.
I agree with my friend in wanting Queen frost to actually make a comeback because we've seen Jack and his brothers throughout the entire course of the series as well as his king but never the Queen. And now that we know that she does exist I think it's high time to give her A 3D design. Actually give all of these demons new 3D designs or bring them back because now this is turning into a little bit like with Pokémon where they just remove certain monsters and then replace them with all these brand new ones but never bring back certain ones only in this series it's more often than not. Also you dare tempt me with the biscuits from red lobster and the promise of a Mountain Dew Margarita being a thing........ Great now I'm hungry lol. Still awesome job with this video!
7:12 I don't even know La Llorona was ever seen in any Megaten games, but I agree mostly because I know we have Lorelei, another ghastly woman associated with the river. Imagine a silly subplot where Lorelei and La Llorona interact for any reason, like Lorelei luring a man to his death and La Llorona thinking said man looks like one of her children and butting heads with Lorelei as a result.
11:43 YOU ARE THE GOAT I LOVE YOU. He's so me I love Seere
Not to shamelessly self-promote but Dead Lobster is an enemy in the Grimoire of Heart, the (free and very cool) Persona/SMT TTRPG I wrote! His statblock and game plan are focused on slowly floating towards a party member, then deboning them. Using weird older designs is a lot of fun so I usually gravitate towards those when making add-on content.
Me a big La Llorna supporter will always want her back even in Dx2 I beg she comes back and was excited to see her in Soul Hackers 2 but she wasn't there and that disappointed me
Three demon designs I want to see show up in new games and get 3D models are Haokah, Ictinike, and Vaka's Soul Hacker's design. I know Atlus used Vaka's SMT2 in games as resent as Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner, but his old is sorta an edited version of preta's model, and it's Soul Hacker's design is just so unique.
Recently found out that Apollo had an appearance in megami tensei (and kmt), but hasn't appeared since. This is kinda baffling seeing as how popular greek mythology is. (Also Apollo is one of my favorite deities in all of mythology, imagine having him on his sun chariot in the games?
I want Dybbuk & Oboroguruma to come back. the handhelds & the Raidou games have a lot of awesome demons that often seem overlooked or forgotten about.
While hes been able to appear as recently as SMT4/A, i really wanna see Lham Dearg in 3D because holy shit he was the goat of my first megaten games opening (SMT4)
Plus im british so naturally im very partial to british mythscand stuff
Sebek, the crocodile god of semen would be really cool to see again. Other than that, I think everyone would like to see the terminator again, we don't see that many demons that use guns.
I’d love to see Sebek again too. Crazy how he hasn’t been used much in the series. He’s one of the most recognizable Egyptian deities.
Terminator, however, isn’t actually a demon in game though. In SMT II, the game he appears in, he’s a non-recruitable human enemy that’s a part of the Messaian cult. Only way he’ll probably come back is if the Messaian cult reappears in a future game or we get an SMT II remake.
I'd say a pretty good honorable mention could be Eve as she's only really appeared as a demon in Smt Nine as exclusively an enemy encounter alongside Adam. Same goes for Terminator in 2 who appears as the "Messian" race as only an enemy lol
I’d love for Adam and Eve return one day too.
Also, Terminator isn’t actually a demon. He’s actually a human, as most Messian and Gaean race enemies are. That’s why they’re enemy only. So the only he’d probably reappear in a MegaTen game is if the Messian cult reappears too. Or an SMT II remake happens.
HADES! He's is one of my FAVORITE mythological figures, and it's such a crime that he is only in THREE games, only two if you count both Persona 2's as a single entity. How has my man not gotten more love. Especially since he has SUCH a sick design in Persona 2.
My personal pick would be Cthulhu, i am shocked that he only appeared in 4 games, those being smt 2, smt if, psp remake of p2: EP and smt dx2. if i had to guess as to why he was shelved it would probably be his design having a straight up a penis in it. Maybe they decided that having Mara maxes out the per game quota of penis demons lol
In Dx2 they just removed the penis, so they could probably just do that if they wanted.
Might not be the same thing, but I need to see more of the Persona 1 demon designs. They look so different and interesting! I really want to see art for all of them!
Rock Lobster: I am the coolest lobster.
Dead Lobster: Hold my beer.
A demon I'd like to see return is Stolas of the Ars Goetia, he's appeared more than 3 times, first appearing in the original Megami Tensei and then showing up in Devil Summoner 1, Devil Children White/Fire/Ice Book, Demikids, and of course... Card Summoner.
Also, Robin Goodfellow/Puck who only appeared in the Persona 2 Duology
How about Bigfoot, he is a palette swap of Wendigo and only appears in Shin Megami Tensei on the SNES. There is a room at the Echo Building that has an encounter with a Brownie, with an extreme rare chance of it being Bigfoot instead.
With having well known folklore creature as party members like Wendigo and Mermaid, how amusing it would be to have Bigfoot fight alongside with you.
personally, when doing research for an oc, i stumbled across megaten's version of housoushi and it absolutely baffled me that it only appeared in a devil summoner manga then never again. it was given such a cool design, at least put it in a game!!
Soul Hackers had such a unique library of demons, I feel like a lot of them had minimal presence in other games. Of them, I think the rumor family was my favorite, with demons based on urban legends. I'm glad Running Granny has came back lately, but I feel like they all could come back. Oh, also the Juggler. Don't know what his deal was, but I just liked that character and think he could be a cool demon
Other than that I'd love for the Famed demons to come back. Sure we had Masakado and Yoshitsune in almost all the games, but I think some iconic demons have been forgotten lately. Jeanne d'Arc comes to mind.
Finally, I think Hannya could do a come back. With the popularity of the Yakuza/Like a Dragon franchise soaring in the past decade, Hannya is a figure that is both recognizable and deserve to have her origins more known. Heck, a new redesign could enhance the old vengeful woman!
An SMT game that heavily focuses on bringing back old demons would be rad
on a related note to La Llorona I would love to see more mexican folklore demons for example La Charro Negro.
There are so many demons I would like to see get brought back to modern games..... Anatomy, Arachne, Bukimi/Hanako(toilet ghost), Cath Palug, Dribbler(ghost w/ basketball), Gremlin, Grimies(Greys), Griffon, Iwate, Picollus(Dead Chef), Ukobach, Zombie Painting, and Zombies in general.
Arachne, Gremlin, Griffon, and Zombies appeared in SMT IV, SMT IV, and Strange Journey all on the 3DS. Gremlin also appears, 3D model and all, in Soul Hackers 2 and is confirmed to appear in SMT V Vengeance.
btw isn't it wierd Virtue was excluded from SMTV
I would love to see Audrey return and the archtype of these movie monster being demons. Back when the series had zero chance of seeing the light of day outside of Japan, Megaten had Bettlejuice, Leatherface, Audrey II, Mickey Mouse and a few others.
Never really thought about it but until this video but we really need more Polynesian gods in smt/persona. Honestly shocked they rarely appear.
Happy 10k subs!
why not Killer Mouse/Duck from smt 2? Surely atlus can bring them back and not get sued by Disney :q
Tengong Cut would be epic in 3D.
one i want to see come back is sarashina-hime, mostly bc im pissed that the english dub of revelations persona named her fugly. female oni are incredibly rare, and she's an excellent femme fatale type character!
I might be wrong but i think the mobile game Dx2 release a few old demons on this list. I stopped playing it since it became too real money reliant but i do get facebook notifications at times.
Dx2 has been an AMAZING game for bringing back some long-forgotten demons, but trust me, I made sure none of the ones I mentioned in this video were in it (at last they aren’t yet)
@@strain42 got it 👍🏻. Love your vids by the way. Really entertaining to watch learning about demons and other monsters in the series.
Okay well NOW Queen Frost is in Dx2, but she wasn't when I made this video!
@@strain42 lol yah, i find it funny when i got an ad for it. Sadly i don’t play Dx2 anymore (or any gacha game). Addiction got the best of me at one point :/.
Gonna do my best to resist the P5 mobile game if it comes to the US 😅.
Asmodeus, Bael and Paimon. All og Kaneko designs. Also Mem Aleph and Merkabah
i was pretty familiar with all the demons in the list except queen frost we definitely need her to make an appearance in the future, also i never heard of dead lobster until now xD. the demon i want to make a return should be Bael he’s art it’s just different and i wonder how his 3d model would look like
Petition for Florida Man to be a SMT demon
Was about to come scream about Kamitachi again, cause my boi needs to be freed from Devil Children jail, but I can't cause he's been in 4 games
So instead:
Bathin- A member of the Goetia with one of the best designs ever that is trapped in DC jail. The jailer of hell needs to be free
Bug- A demon exclusively from MT based off of a computer glitch, the first demon to have an animated sprite, which would constantly flip over. With the franchise focusing so much on our relationship with technology these days, it'd be a perfect inclusion
Jabberwocky- A fun little literary demon was around back in MT and only returned for Giten
Cthugha- Speaking of Giten, with Cthulhu being revived for the mobile game and Nyarla being as important to the franchise as it is, its sad the, and a quite, "Vampire of Fire" be forgtten in Giten
Gilgamesh- How. How in the fuck is Gilgamesh. GILGAMESH, in DC jail
Sif- Putting her in here before I can't anymore when the SMT releases come out. But yeah, Sif, Wife of Thor has only ever been in Persona 2
And since I'm lazy, imma round it out with how I started with some Goetians I wanna see get more love:
Ronove- The goblin lord of hell, who has only ever appeared in the SMT4 manga. For that matter, the horned rabbit Almi'raj also needs to be unleashed from those pages
Buer- The demon that appears on the goddamn cover of a Black Sabbath album and for whom I am willing to cheat to include, as his 4th appearance after IF, Majin 2 and Giten is Groove on Fight
Viné- The forgotten Demon King who has not been seen since IF & Giten
And a cheating shout out to Amdusias (MT2, Kuuyaku, IF & Giten) foir having one of the best designs of all time for his IF design
Yeah why is the king of heroes so underused
Good news! Queen Frost made it into Dx2 Liberation!
The ones I feel are underused are Beetlejuice and Chem Trails (For those wondering no that's not a shitty joke, that's a real demon in SMT.).
Well Chemtrail was added in SMTIV I believe, and the design is...something so it's understandable it hasn't appeared
I know he isn't exactly unpopular but Jack the Ripper feels super underutilized in SMT. I kind of hope if he shows up again he has a side quest about how he wants to be in the Jack Bros like he used to.
The issue is that he has never been in a 3D game, and atlus is reluctant to model demons that have never been modeled before...or really model new stuff in general.
@@CatManThree He's in Dx2
@@bravetree Dx2 is made by Sega not Atlus. The models from Dx2 have also mever been used in anything else.
@@CatManThree That seems like a waste tbh Dx2 models look good.
8:09 don't worry man, it's non spanish speaker common mistake
"La lourona" lol
I think Sobek is in Smt:Dx2 Libration
I would love to see a 3D Dead Lobster
He is not, unfortunately.
I think Gilgamesh should appear on the series more, given how he's the oldest king of mankind and stuff, apparently he only appears on the GBA games, it's a shame
To this day I still can't believe La Llorona is a demon, I love it
I always thought the Loa from Vodou would be great for the SMT series, like Baron Samedi, rather than that skull.
I want atlus to bring terminator back in either a new smt game or persona 6 why? Because it’s a knight wielding an assault rifle and a shotgun with a freaking gundam jet pack what’s not to love?
They shop update the Jersey Devil design so that he's wearing a Jets jersey
Giants, GIANTS
i never knew there was a queen frost but the demon that i really want to see is lucifer frost or as i like to call it lucifrost
I honestly just want Terminator back, cause my inner 5 year and current 25 year old both agree that jet pack akimbo rifle wielding knights are cool.
Me just wanting Chainsaw Donald SMT1
My two most favorite demons are Lilim and Belial!
Fun fact chernobog i belobogs names means black god and white god when translated to english (there the only good representation we got in video games)
Lukoje and Goggie of course.
All amazing choices, the only ones I'd add to this list are Bigfoot and Betelgeuse.
Crusader looks so cool
we need more dante :P
a Dante and vergil dlc would be awesome
Honestly, given SMT4 gave us Chemtrail, Dead Lobster coming back doesn't seem too unreasonable.
Crusader looks so cool
there was a goetia demon only in devil sumoner 1 it needs to comeback
I agree. There’s so many demons stuck in Devil Summoner 1 and Soul Hackers 1 that I’d love to see make a comeback.
11:15 yo theres a Jack frost platformer that isnt Jack Bros?
It’s called Synchronicity Prologue and it was an advertising tie-in game fir Strange Journey Redux. Was officially localized and they did officially take it down but…you can get it and there’s an English patch lol
What’s that game @ 11:26???? It looks sick…
Synchronicity Prologue. It was a Search Action game they released to advertise Strange Journey Redux. It was officially delisted but...you can find it, and it even has an English translation patch. It's only a few hours, but I honestly love it.
@@strain42Arguably better than Strange Journey Redux
@@Fermin-hw5pdI'd make that argument
I was hoping to see kuchi sakka onna, she only has 3 games
where waxwork
Soul hackers demon roster is just leagues better than any other entry
The goetia are the fallen race, so if all them were in the game that'd be 72 demons in one race
Bael, belial, Morax, and Amon would have a word with you
We’ve had Goetian demons that aren’t in the Fallen race and we’ve had Fallen race demons that aren’t Goetian. They could find a way to make it work
@@strain42 like Leonard adramelech ukobach, melchom and abdiel.
@@strain42 I never knew that
@@strain42 also some of them I forgot about, I associate the goetia with Fallen like named angels are heralds
Wait if that Sobek is fan art who did it
I don’t actually know their name, but there’s a link to their blog I the video description
If Terminator doesn't show up I will not forgive this list
Terminator isnt a demon, hes a human enemy type.
@@CatManThree Yeah, I guess you're right. I forget that there are non demon enemies. The older games just sort of bleed together for me. I am still upset. Bring him back regardless
Me if i was a demon:
Where all my terminator fans out there?!?!? DEUS VULT 🗿
Hulk Hogan doesnt count?
Like, as a "demon" I mean
Are you talking about Gigas guys from Persona 3 and 4? If so, probably not. They were shadows created specifically for those games. They might reappear in a future Persona game though.
If you’re talking about the real life Hulk Hogan, then it’s very unlikely. MegaTen rarely features real life people who are still alive in their games, especially as demons. Stephen is the only exception I can think of, and he’s not a demon nor explicitly the real world one either.
@@lostboy3516 bah humbug
Iblis (Islamic counterpart of Lucifer)
And that one boss in Sonic 06
crusader is awesome. wasted design
black cat would be SICK too