Fujifilm Street Photographers dream lens? Voigtländer 27mm F2 Ultron (Focus Tab!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- I tried the new Cosina Voigtländer 27mm F2 Ultron lens for Fujifilm! The first lens for Fujifilm X with a focs tab! Is it going to be the next go-to lens for Street Photographers? Maybe...
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#streetphotography #voigtländer #fujifilm
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Voigtländer 27mm F2 Ultron is here
01:44 Derby Photography
03:47 First Impression & Close Look
11:07 Final Thoughts
13:24 Fujifilm X-Pro 2 Graphite
14:33 More Sample Images & Comparisons
I've been patiently awaiting this hands on since you mentioned the lens a few months ago. Seems super sharp, and the focus tab is awesome. Looks like it'd be a great street lens.
I never undestood the point of not having a depth of field scale
Because of that sweet sweeeeeet focus by wire we have now! Love it! /s
Not possible with focus by wire.
You can cheat though. Use AF to focus at the depth needed by literally acquiring focus on an object in front of you at that depth, then switch off autofocus. The lens retains the DOF.
@@SourPlanetI do this with back button focusing in manual focus mode
@@thomasemory4352 That's the best method, imo. I use an A7c as my every day carry and this set up makes it like a Q2 with interchangeable lenses and awesome AF.
Not to imply the A7c matches the Q for other stuff ha.
It’s for zone focusing
Oh man thanks for feeding my GAS Samuel. Awesome real world review - always candid, genuine and refreshing. I just got the CV 23mm F1.2 and I love it - everything you said about focus peaking and "punching in" applies to this lens as well. I had bought it over the Fuji 23mm F2 (as I wanted something more compact then the 23mm F1.4 R) and while I sometimes miss the convenience of AF, manual focusing makes me feel more present, invested and conscious of my shooting, which enhances the experience. I have the XF27mm, so not sure if I'll be looking to replace it with this new CV 27mm, as you're making the case for it pretty well. Cheers!
Great video! Prior to 1980 my favorite lens was the fifty. Then I bought a Minolta CLE and a M4P, since then I fell in love with 40mm eqv. lenses!
I also bought the XF 23mm F2 yesterday. First shots were absolutely beautiful.
AFAIK on the X-Pro3 the Voigtlander lenses does automatically change the framelines and you focus (kinda like a Leica), and on it (and many Fuji bodies) you can set it up such that it automatically zooms in as you turn the focus for critical focus the snapp for the whole view when you have press the shutter. Sad they didn’t backport that to the X-Pro2, but from what I understand newer bodies like the X-Pro3 has an extra electrical contact on the lens mount for lenses like the Voigtlander to enable that feature.
loved that last 10 seconds bit :)
Love it when there’s a new review for something I just bought haha
Vielen Dank für den sehr informativen Beitrag und die Impressionen vom Pferderennen. Sehr schön auch der Vogelschiet an der Backsteinwand fürs Pixelpeeping ;)
I believe this is one of the most anticipated lens since its announcement and its pancake design is sick!!! The image quality tops it off so well even tho it has slightly busy bokeh!
Yes overall it‘s a winner I would say! I hope voigtländer will continue to release lenses like this one for Fuji x!
Yes, you are right: I had one Ultron in the past and had to sell it fast: crazy sharp but the disturbing bokeh brings the value of its sharpness to zero.
Another awesome video 👌 thanks for everything!!!
I've been excited for this lens when I've first heard about it's coming release andI think this is the most comprehensive coverage of this lens that I've seen so far; covering outdoor use, comparisons to other lenses, with side-by-side comparisons! Thanks! It's really helpful for deciding whether to get this lens or not. Being a new lens, I think I'll wait around to see a price drop in a used copy.
Also, I didn't know that's the proper pronounceation, I'll keep that in mind too hehe.
Glad to see this lens made as I was getting frustrated with all the 2.8 options for x mount. No idea why 2.8 keeps getting decided as the go-to 27mm speed. I understand it makes it pancake but it wouldn't add that much size to make an f2 i'd imagine.
I would love to see what a 1.8 would look like size wise. I have the Ultron40mm f2 for my nikon FE2 but haven't processed the rolls of film yet to see how it looks for me but i'm glad to hear you said its your favourite lens in this vid.
Appreciate the content as always.
That’s a beautiful lens!!! Have fun with the X-Pro 2 too 😊
Since one month I own a TTartisan 2,0/25mm. I use it with a X-E4 and so far I am really happy with it. It works well for street with apertures between 4 and 8; a Bokeh test ist still missing. An other advantage is that I can use it with my IR modified X-E3.
Focus at infinity when focus ring is at the end is superb 🤩
Yes! Very rare for that to happen unfortunately.
And by the way thanks for your review. Nice content as always!
Holy crap! It is out!!! I totally missed that because after the initial videos, it went dark on the lens and then I forgot about it.
Seems to be a nice lens and it could exchange my Fuji 27 some day. 😊
Voigtlander please come out with an 18Mm f2!!
YES!
@SamuelStreetlife I judge every camera mount on how many good 28mm equivalent prime lenses they have, that's why I can't consider pentax k3 iii unfortunately. A 18mm 2.0 would be heaven on the fuji xpro 3
Hello from the future. It looks like you got your wish.
The commercial break was dope.... u nailed it.
Thank you for both review and pixel peeping session! By the way have you tried putting peaking setting into low sensitivity - it is much easier for me to get focus when there is not much of the peaking colour and I can easily notice it flashes in the eyes of people, even in a crowd.
Yes I did but didn’t find it to be easier then. It was too hard for me to see the red outlines. Maybe monochrome filter plus red peaking is the solution.
@@SamuelStreetlife I like using yellow, for me it's easier to see than red.
Voigtlander, if you're reading this, please do the same but with an 18mm to complete the pancake package. It would be the ultimate street combo
Yes please! I want a 27/28 equivalent so bad. :D
I'would resell my 18 1.4 for it!
I like it's rendering and silver look on X-E4. I have Nokton 35mm, but now is really curious about this one.
4:01 "what i like is, of course, the contax zeiss" me too, much better LOL
😂😂😂
long waited one !
Excellent video 😊!
Hairs looking good dude!
Got it. Equivalent of 28 and 40 is good
Hi Samuel.
I have a question about the behavior of the lens in a specific situation: using the aperture priority mode, does the camera choose the appropriate shutter speed, depending on the chosen aperture?
I think this must be the case, because the electronic contacts of the lens transmit that information (the chosen aperture) to the camera, and I can't think of anything that prevents the behavior of the camera described above (in aperture priority mode, deciding the speed consistent sealing).
I think I'm right, but I'd like to know your opinion on this.
All the best.
This basically makes the X100 series kinda pointless. You could just get ANY Fuji body and stick this on to it and get a similar experience and still have the possibility of changing lenses if need be. Pretty much every pancake lens for Fuji has a maximum aperture of f2.8. F2 on this lens is a game changer to me
Except for the leaf shutter
I miss focus on manual lenses on my xpro2 for the same reasons you mentioned....it is hard to tell in the EVF. Would LOVE the xpro line to introduce a real rangefinder capability for these x mount manual lenses
this lens gonna rock on my Xpro3 !
I feel like the GR3X blew it out of the water with your comparisons at the end. Wow!
Thanks for the vid Samuel. Looks an interesting lens. BTW I noticed the clean cut version of SLH. Been for a job interview? 😁😂
Thanks. Now I have a Voigtlander 40mm f2 SLIIS for Nikon coming my way. And an adapter to enable me to use it on my Sony a7II camera. (Cheaper than buying a Nikon body to use it.) 40mm is my favorite focal length, and I think the bokeh of the Nikon version is much nicer than that of the Fuji one. I have considered buying this lens in the past, but your review pushed me over the edge.
7Artisans make a 25mm 1.8 with a focusing tab too! Also, fantastic video man. Lens looks pretty good
Thanks for the review and your insight! That xpro2 looks nice! You should consider cutting the pronunciation at the end as a short 😄😄
Informative and enjoyable review video, thank you! I’ve not been drawn to a 27mm fov (and lije 23 even less) but in your hands you took some lovely photos with it. From your comparisons I agree the Voigtlander looked very good compared to its current rivals. A question for you … you demonstrated the nicer separation / “3-d pop” with the full frame camera; have you found certain lenses for fuji x-mount that also deliver that particularly well? I have the 16mm 1.4, 35mm 1.4, a Meike 35mm 1.7, and a Viltrox 13mm 1.4; they work well for me but I don’t know what I don’t know and would hate to be missing out!
Nokton 35mm f/1.2 has really good "3-d pop", soft and dreamy wide open, nice and clear at f/2, very good from f/4
To be fair, with the FF 40mm you also get some vignetting, which it does help making the character popping more.
And that's a 40mm so the bokeh is better than the 27mm (even if they have the same angle of view).
I got it a few weeks back and use it on the X-Pro3 and it's soooo much fun to use! I got a more vintage lens hood for it and couldn't ask for a better "every day" combination.
Grüße aus der Zeiss Stadt Jena
which lens hood did you get?
@@dlat80 Metal, round, screw in, 43mm thread. Cost like 12€ and it's slitted. Nothing special tbh, but looks good on the lens
Servus! Loved your video. It actually made me purchase this lens and I absolutely love it 😊 Would you mind telling me where I can find a cool lenshood? Cheers buddy
Did some try and compare this lens to a Vogtländer 35mm 2.5 Color Skopar with adapter? I'm consindering the 27mm, but it is hard to get hold of where I live and the price is higher than the Color Skopar with a adapter.
Will I miss out on more than EXIF data? I like to shoot 50mm, so the difference in FOV wouldn't be an issue for me.
m mount lenses are not optimized for other mirrorless systems. I dont have personal experience but from researching I understand that adopting m lenses on fuji is risky. some lenses show smearing and strong fringing in the corners
Should the Depth Of Field Scale be changed to Film or kept on Pixel in the camera(X-T4)??
Good review! Got this lens 2 weeks ago. I like this better than the Fuji 27mm, which I found to be fairly average. 2.0 is useful and it has a good close focussing distance. Great for street, documentary, family life. The manual focus clutch works very well.
hi,do you still think is better than fuji 27?thx
@@adycoke2 yes, no question. I have owned both, but the Ultron is sharper and has much nicer rendering; images have a certain character that the Fuji misses. And you win one stop, of course. In addition, the Voigtlander focussed much closer and it produces gorgeous sunstars, already from f/3.2.
@@ozuidema are you using on xtrans 5 camera?thx
@@adycoke2 yes, on xt5
@@ozuidema thx,i have T5 aswell and wondering if ultron will resolve the 40mp,now i have the answear :)
Man $600 is pretty steep, I’ve been enjoying my $60 ttartisan 25mm f2
Is it really worth it over the TTartisans 25mm f/2 for $65?
Can someone tell me where they buy this lens. Cant find it anywhere except ebay going for over msrp
I loved the term as muscle memory…
ich habe das objektiv selbst seit ca. zwei wochen und nutze es jeden tag an meiner x-t3 für street, portraits etc.
die naheinstellgrenze ist phantastisch und vor allem die damit einhergehende bildqualität.
endlich ein objektiv, das man nicht adaptieren muß, das sich sogar fast blind perfekt einstellen läßt und super kompakt ist...
für mich - zusammen mit dem viltrox 75mm 1.2 - eines der spannendsten objektive für x-mount.
bin übrigens durch dein video vor einigen wochen überhaupt erst darauf aufmerksam geworden und habe es seitdem sehnsüchtig erwartet.. danke also für den hinweis.
d.h. mit dem Fokustab kommt man gut zurecht? Ich habe nämlich an mein Voigtländer 23mm einen aus Kunststoff/Gummi angeklebt (über amazon) und finde es 150% angenehmer mit so einem Tab zu fokussieren als immer nur am Rad zu drehen.
@@AlexanderBischof ja, geht mir genauso. focus by wire ist ok, aber für street nur bedingt nutzbar. echtes manuelles fokussieren finde ich deutlich angenehmer, fokus tab macht es noch besser und wenn dann sogar die entfernungsskala benutzbar ist, wie beim 27 f2, und es einen harten stop bei infinity gibt, dann ist es wirklich ziemlich perfekt. ich bin selten so happy mit einem objektiv gewesen & finde die meisten x-mount-objektive schon ziemlich gut. für mich jedenfalls paßt es.
@@stffn hört sich schon sehr verlockend and
Oh schön zu hören das mein video
Dich zum Objektiv geführt hat. Ist auf jeden Fall eine neue Empfehlung für street mit Fujifilm.
Mom, there is a strange man next to the bouncy castle who says i should buy used cameras. 😄cool video with an interesting lens. 👌
😂 haha. Thanks Dan!
Was waiting for your review and honest opinion.
Even if this Voigtlander is very sharp and well constructed, the bokeh was a deal-breaker for me. Instead I saved money and got a Pergear 25mm f/1.8 for when I wan't a manual focus experience.
The Pergear is surprisingly sharp except for the borders, I tend to crop the images a bit and problem solved. Of course overall it's not as good as the Voigtlander. Nor it has aperture clicks and has worse coatings... but it costs 80 euros! And I love the way it renders.
On the Pergear the distance markings aren't precise of course, but with some quick experiment's it's easy to know how to set it to hyperfocal (on my copy it's between the 3m mark and infinity + f/8).
Despite not having aperture cliks, the user experince is good, the rings turn smoothly and it feels overall solid.
Another option is the TTartisan 27mm f/2.8. It has AF and it's a very good lens for the price, I would say 90% as good as the Fujinon 27mm and costs 200 euros, a price that makes sense for such a lens (the Fujinon 27mm is way overpriced). The AF motor is smoother too compared to the clunky Fujinon 27mm.
Nice that you found a good alternative! I was also surprised that my 150€ Kamlan lens is much sharper closed down than the voigtländer. A little disappointing. But the feel and user experience is really nice with the voigtländer.
@@SamuelStreetlife I’’ curious about that Kamlan for a long time, but then I check it’s size and weight and immediately forget it 😄 You should try the Pergear 25mm, it’s cheap, fun and has a beautiful render.
@@SamuelStreetlife around 5:12 you talk about the focus throw being very short from 1m to 3m. I've also found this to be the case with my TTArtisan 23mm F1.4.
I have bought a Voigtlander 25mm f4 lens which has a lovely focus throw. However, it'd be nice to have something a bit faster sometimes but opening up a fast manual lens sucks if the focus throw is super short between 1m and infinity, any ideas or suggestions would be amazing.
I actually really like the ‘nervous’ bokeh - it reminds me of the Minolta rokkor 40mm f2, a lens I love but sold because I’m a close focus fiend. If I shot fuji I’d be on this like a pigeon on a chip, especially since it focusses so close!
Do you like this lens more than other voightlanders you have? Thinking of picking this up or adapting other voightlander lens…
Compared to the 35mm ultron for Leica M that I know I prefer this 27mm Ultron. But overall I prefer my 40mm Ultron for Nikon. I just like the rendering of the other Ultron lenses more than this new one. But built and feel is great on this 27mm.
I really like the colors that you get from the fujis. Reminded me of the positive films from the Ricoh 😂
Haha! It’s because I use a Ricoh GR positive film profile with my Fuji files😁 I use the Ricoh GR profile pack from cobalt image.
And now a Voigtländer 18mm f/2 - please 😊
I have been looking at manual focus lens lately for my Fuji xt-4 & xpro 2. The fact I don't have a 27mm lens and this ticks all the boxes I might need to purchase one. Thanks for honest review.
I’ve just had 23 1.2 and bought these days even 35 1.2, this could be the third, also if I prefer 18/16.
Beautiful! Couldn't wait for your take on this lens from the moment Cosina announced it and you also mentioned in one of your videos that you are interested. Maybe I missed it, but will you be getting one for yourself? Your thoughts on Nokton 23 1.2 and 35 1.2? I'm torn between 23 1.2 and 27 2.0.
I think in your case you first need to decide on the focal length - 23, 27 or 35. Nokton 35mm is good for night photography and portraits, it has a more specific look wide open (smooth, glow, with pretty flares). 27mm looks good for snapshooting and close-ups, less specific look but still have something in it.
I also like that the 27mm has a hard stop at infinity, like Samuel said. My 35mm does not have this, the focus goes a little beyond infinity, but this does not bother me so much since I shoot slowly.
I personally won‘t get this lens for myself. But only because I don‘t use my Fujifilm cameras primarily for stills. And I already have the 23mm f2 which is my weather sealed all weather lens in case my GR‘s are in danger of the weather. But if I would primarily shoot Fujifilm for photograph than yes I would get one probably! The fujinon 27mm 2.8 never really impressed me. The voigtländer is more fun and I like the results better. I have no experience with the other voigtländer lenses for Fuji x so I can‘t comment much about them. But focal length should be the first deciding factor.
I got the Voigtländer 35mm and the Fuji 35mm f/1.4. The Voigtländer is extremely fun to use, image quality is good and I like the fact that you basically get a two in one lens. Wide open at f/1.2 it is soft, has a certain glow and you can get beautiful lens flares. Step down to f/1.4 or f/2 and everything is sharp and fine again. Would this lens replace my Fuji? Very hard to say. I don't need two 35mm lenses but the Fuji holds sentimental value and I think it is one of their best lenses. I use both lenses on the x pro3 and the whole shooting experience is just lovely and so much fun. I bought a used copy for 400€ and I think even that is bit too much. The retail price of 600-650€ is way too much. I understand the made in Japan part and why it is an expensive lens, but damn, that's a lot of money tbh. If you are considering the 23mm f/1.2 remember that it has field curvature issues. That's not bad, but be aware of that and learn how to use it then it is absolutely no problem.
@@venom2k2Hi, I sold my 35 1.4 for 35 1.2. 35 1.4 is a myth but an old lens with slow and noisy af that today is a bit weird. Then its manual focus by wire isn’t’ good. There is no sense to keep both, I have 35 1.2 and 35 f2 for af
How about fujinon 23mm f1.4 and btw it must be nice
Damm at 7:22 I have been there as its not far from my wife's family. I have almost the same photo. Cheers from Canada.
What's the name of the music at the end? Really want to know.
Dylan Sitts - Mountain Brook
wow congrats on having a son ! wow thats big news
Man, I really want that Voigtlander 40mm for my nikon f100 and f3.
I have the 50mm ais f1.2 which I should use more, but I find 50 to be just a bit too claustrophobic...
I use my 40mm Ultron on my F100 quite a lot! Great combination👍
@@SamuelStreetlife It may have to be a xmas gift... :P
I’m interested in this lens since I’ve never had a Voigtlander lens however given the price difference I dont feel like it’s worth getting this one over the Fuji one.
Absolutely different experience, manual and autofocus, besides f/2 Voigtlander gives a specific rendering.
The Pergear 25mm f/1.8 was mentioned below, that would be a more accurate comparison.
@@KingFiercer_zip i did own the pergear - the ttartisan 25 f2 too - and altough it had a really fine image quality, the handling wasn`t great and more importantly the quality of the housing is poor - at least with the one i owned...
i didn't regret buying the voigtländer and would do it again without hesitation
@@stffn I had no experience with this lens, I just gave it as an example. My Voigtlander Nokton 35mm is also a joy to use and looks very nice. Now I want to try more Cosina's lenses 😅
what are your thoughts on the 28mm Kamlan?
It’s awesome! A little soft contrast wide open but great look and well built. I use it a lot for filmmaking
@@SamuelStreetlife I only asked because I saw that you posted only 1 picture that you took with it in the comparison section. That made me curious of your thoughts. I have it too, and don’t understand why it is not more popular🤷🏽♂️ soo thats why I asked
sony zv1F is the ultimate f2.0 camera 20mm focal. shooting clean jpeg. best ever at a cheaper cost.
I know that it will be insanely expensive and heavy, but I'm very interested in the new Voigtlander 35mm f/0.9.
a little dissapointed that it moves when focused, that means dust being pumped into the lens I think
My wife was freaking out about your pronunciation till that very last bit where you explain 😂
See!! I knew it would bother someone 😂👍
Someone needs to make an 18mm for fuji with a focus tab already
I always find the music a little too loud on most everyone’s videos.
wish they had a 18-21mm
Der Look an der Nikon ist genial. Und dafür will ich diese Linse. Aber nicht am XF Bajonett. da reicht ein 23mm f2.
Ja leider ist die Fujifilm Variante nicht ganz dasselbe wie die Nikon Variante. Das 23mm f2 finde ich auch ausreichend Gut und macht das voigtländer nur noch attraktiv wenn man noch kompakter sein will oder manuelles fokussieren absolut liebt.
@16:27 🤣
I used to go to Hamburg twice a year to see St Pauli. Nice city...But the last time was 2006. More importantly and more relevantly I take photos, not very well, of my local folk music club I use a Viltrox 33 1.4 with my Fuji Xt3 as it is dark unfortunately sometimes it is not wide enough 27mm would be perfect apart from most lens are not fast enough. As it is I have to use high ISO so I long for a fast 27mm autofocus lens... manual is OK but missed focus plagues me. It seems 27mm is the only size that doesn't have a fast lens if fast is the right word . To me strange and annoying.
Then the soon to be released Viltrox 27mm 1.2 sounds like the perfect lens for your needs! It will probably a great performer.
Does it work with XE-3?
Yes, but without electronic contacts support
@@KingFiercer_zip what does it mean, does zooming when focusing work ?
@@user-rp5qm2gp9p it would be fully manual experience, no exif data, no auto zooming, you should do it by yourself by pressing button on the camera (not a problem in my opinion)
Shame the electronics are not compatible with the X-Pro 2 :( Really wanted this lens, but a real deal breaker.
GR3x is Insane...
I'm glad to stay till the last 20 secs. HAHA
Always stay until the end 😉
This lens makes me wanna pick up a used fuji body 😅
I get X-E1 and Nokton 35mm, and very happy with it. It's more fun then X-M1 and XF35mm.
@@KingFiercer_zip You're giving me great ideas 😬
@@alifnor X-Trans I magic with Voigtlander magic, both made in Japan 😆 But for such fast aperture it would be nice to have an electronic shutter, as in the X-E2.
@@KingFiercer_zip Both I've always wanted to try out. Hopefully I can make it work this year ✨
Wooob, what a nice haircut you’ve got🎉😊
You should go back to Leica. ;-)
yeah maybe they should have made this a f1.4, but then it wouldn't be a pancake I guess, still a great combo for x-pro users
Yeah I take a small lens over a bright but big lens any day for street or casual photography.
Nice haircut 😂
😄thanks
its too wide.. it just looks cool thats all, 35mm should be better.
well, 23mm is even wider 😅I like the rendering of this 27mm compared to XF27mm for example
Your claim that with an APS-C sensor you have more depth of field and therefore focussing is less critical is not correct.
Let's say you use a 28mm lens that is designed for a full frame camera on your APS-C camera. Because you don't use the complete surface of the lens this causes a crop factor of 1.5x That means that you if you would want a similar angle of view on a full frame camera you would need to use a 42mm lens.
Because of the crop factor, the field of view decreases (compared to using the same lens on a full frame camera) The depth of field scale will no longer give you the correct information. The focussing will be even more critical because you will have less depth of field (compared to using the same lens on a full frame camera)
I don't know why I'm surprised to learn there is horse racing in Germany.
best 40mm pancake is the Canon f2.8 stm. tiny, super sharp, has AF and cost nothing.
Blasphemy to Fuji users, but the Ricoh has better color and contrast.
True story ;)
Voigtländer spricht man aber anders aus
ach ne
@@SamuelStreetlife Verbesserungsvorschläge darf man auch annehmen 😉
@@bloodhoug82dann hast du nicht zu Ende geguckt: 16:27 😛
@@SamuelStreetlife ah, den Abspann wirklich nicht gesehen
Average lens, not bad not great for the price
Great Stuff! G.A.S. is not in my Mind, but it could be nice!
It could!😁