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I have the Fuji version which is staggeringly good, never misses focus, beautiful colours and is tack sharp. I bought for £160 second hand (same price as this TTArtisan). I never leave home without it.
It's an awesome little lens and I cannot stop getting surprised every time I get an amazingly sharp image at times when I'm not expecting it. I bought it for my street shooting on the budget for my X-E3. The footprint of this combo is just right for the job.
I have their 50mm all (manual) for my Sony A7iii. Great lens too. Set the aperture and shutter speed, then let the camera sort out the ISO. Range focusing is perfect for street photography. You can forget about the camera and concentrate on the shot.
Literally the best value photographic purchase I've ever made. It's short comings are the vignette which can be minimised by stopping down or eliminated in post, easily enough. The flaring is common in a lot of cheap Chinese lenses for sure. You can see the flaring in the view finder/rear lcd and recompose to minimise or eliminate it or even use it artistically if you want. Once you are aware of its shortcomings it can produce excellent images which are sharp edge to edge and have a really nice colour rendition. I even prefer to use this lens to use this lens over the highly rated Fujinon XC 35mm f2 on occasion. I have taken test shots at similar apertures and the TT Artisans has superior edge sharpness when stopped down a bit.
I own Fuji 27mm f2.8 and I love it. The Fuji version has much better micro contrast and is almost permanently attached to my X-E1. It makes the camera almost pocketable and is fantastic on the go/street photography kit.
@@drewww8778yes, I have tested TT-Artisian and compared to it my copy of Fuji 27mm. The Fuji probably has better coating because I was getting better micro contrast, nicer colors and quite a bit less of lens flare. You can find a decent copy of used Fuji 27mm for almost the same price as new TT-Artisian 🤷🏼
Bout the Xa1 recently. Looking for a good piece of glass for it. Have all sorts of fuji glass, looking for something low-profile. Tried the 18mm/f6.3 - and did not like the results. Probably ordering this 27mm today. How's the X-m1 working for you?
@@davidtorke92, I have a lot of fun with it. Its black and silver case get compliments on the street, gives me fantastic captures. And saved me a lot of money over the newer gens.
I was in a bind as my X-pro2 stb last month and Fuji USA offered me a discounted X-Pro3 as a replacement - $1700! So, looking for alternatives I settled on the X-t2 used from MPB ($525) and this little shooter from eBay Japan ($195). Really dig the files, reminds me of the files from my x-pro1 - really dig it. Wish I'd stumbled upon it sooner. @@ChadWilson
This is a lens for everyone using APS-C cameras. If you’re a Fuji owner, I think it’s a lens you just have to pick up. When compared directly to the Fujifilm XF 27mm f/2.8, I found this lens to be better overall, sans weather sealing. If this lens had weather sealing, then I would honestly see no reason to own the Fuji version. I personally didn’t like that lens because of the significantly higher amount of focus breathing and seemingly shorter minimum focusing distance. I know that on paper they claim they’re the same, but I always had trouble taking photos of things in my hands on the Fuji lens and I never had a problem with this lens. Great video. You’re extremely well spoken and articulate.
Thanks, there are my sentiments on the lens as well. It’s might be my “lens of the year” this year. I just don’t see how you can beat it for the price.
Just for kicks I compared portrait shots taken in low light with the TTArtisans at f2.8 on a Fuji with the Nikon 40 f2 and the 35 f1.8 taken at f4 on the Nikon Zf for similar depth of field. I was blown away that the TTArtisans image was far and away sharper with good contrast. It was not even close.
The quality of products coming out of China has improved drastically over the last 15 years. (In part due to corporate espionage it should be said.) I first noticed this with Fender and Squire guitars built in China. You can buy an excellent electric guitar made in China for $450. That wasn’t the case in the early 2000s. I own the Viltrox 75mm f/1.2. Aside from the minimum focusing distance, which is a bit crap, everything else about the lens is on par with the Fujifilm 56mm f/1.2. There are some complaints about the sun stars and flaring with the Viltrox but for the price I think that can be overlooked for most users. I’ve never owned a TTArtisan lens but at $150 there’s almost no reason not to give it a try.
Agree. I mean on a scale of 1-10, it gets 5 bonus points for being cheap, small, and having autofocus. It’s actually one of my favourite lenses right now.
I have a tiny TTArtisan 32 F2.8 full frame lens for my Nikon Z7 for $100, I was shocked that this lens is so sharp, not just in the centre, but right to the corners, wide open. The only downside is lens flare against light sources, which is quite severe. I actually like the slightly lower contrast of these cheap lenses, because I think modern lenses are too contrasty, especially in bright sunny day, which leads to blown highlights and dead shadows, these lenses produce images which look more natural to me, and also give me more headroom shall I need to do post-processing.
The rear lens cap has design flaws. The pin broke easily. Managed to exchange another new set from the dealer but the same problem happened. Besides that it is a very good lens! The optical performance is good. Best paired with my ZVE10. The autofocus performance is good in video mode.
I just snagged my first camera from OfferUp, Sony a6100 w/ kit lens for $300 US! Steal! Because I got such a great deal I'm looking at alternatives to the Kit lens. Thanks for putting this ttartisan lens on my radar! I would love to see a comparison of this lens to a big brand pancake lens, specifically the Sony 20mm pancake lens. Have you experience with that lens? It would be great to hear your thoughts because one can justify getting the Sony pancake on the used market as I've seen them around $200 US. Thanks for making a great a video!
Hey Mark! Super interesting lens, I wonder if they'll bother making it in a Canon M mount at this point, I hope they do. Off topic question for you, I have heard that one of the "problems" with the Canon M6 Mark II is that a lot of the M mount lenses lack the ability to fully resolve all the megapixels on that sensor. Do you think the Viltrox primes are "enough lens" for that sensor, or should I invest in the Sigma primes, or another option entirely?
An affordable pancake. Thanks for highlighting it. If I'm honest I quite like the lens flare for video and I'm not opposed to a little bit of vignetting. At £169.00 you can't grumble for the price.
I was telling others when there are more than 3 auto focus lens manufacturers in China... competition within China will drive down lens price for all brands... and it has just arrived...
I hope they make one for the M50! I was looking for a cheaper alternative for the sigma 16mm and found your video yesterday. I've since binged through a bunch of others lol. Your in depth but simple way of explaining is extremely helpful! I actually bought the sigma 16mm alt you suggested from this same company. I'm an artist/designer by trade and like.. everyone is adding chromatic ab/lense effects in post! To get that subtly in camera is pretty neat I look forward to more from this company. Thank you for being awesome at explaining!
This is 27mm f2.8, I'm not sure it's a cheaper alternative to the Sigma 16mm f1.4. Canon's own 22mm f/2 would be closer than this lens. If this lens was 16mm even at f2.8 I'd buy it.
@@GrantMcWilliams Oh I think my comment was unclear there's another video of Mark's where he talks about a 17mm f1.4 (or close to this can't remember exact specs) from the same company that I'm referring to. I hope they make one of these 27mm for canon as well I'm in the beginner low budget phase and I like what this manufacturer is doing. I'm literally waiting impatiently for my 17mm to arrive now cannot wait to play!
@@thestellarelite Yes, I think they have a 17 mm f1.4 manual focus for EF-M but I'd like to have an AF version. The painful reality is all lens manufacturers are going to dump EF-M now that the mount is dead. I really wanted Sigma's short zoom that just came out for Fuji and Sony. If I had that I would probably just keep using my M6II until it finally died but currently I don't have what I want.
@@GrantMcWilliams I've now tested it out and it does exactly what I wanted which was more DoF background blur for my videos without spending $800+. Great little lens nice build. The manual focus is difficult took a lot of testing but I managed. When you say the mount is dead do you mean it's just too old and no one is developing for it anymore?
@@thestellarelite Not too old, just abandoned. I was hoping third parties would jump in and release some lenses for the EF-M market as soon as Canon abandoned it but I'm fairly sure at this point that that will not happen. Even third parties want nothing to do with it since new cameras aren't being built. Since there are no new cameras the market will shrink as people move on or cameras die and nobody wants to be producing products for a market that only has one way to go. It's very sad for me because Canon can't make an M6II replacement because the lenses will always be much larger. Maybe they could get close with a camera body with RF mount but not an RF lens. Fuji could do it but they spend a lot of time just making weird cameras that don't seem to have any direction (WTH do I care about an LCD showing the label from a film box from the 80's?). Sony does make a camera that fits into the M6II market and the lenses are small but I've had enough Sony's to know that isn't the direction I want to go. So, I wait and keep using my EF-M cameras. I would really like to have a fast, short zoom though. If I had that I'd keep it for the foreseeable future.
On Fujifilm there is an option to buy a used XF 27mm f/2.8 lens for a few more dollars. That is much-much better option, especially the lens coating is far more advanced. I was curious about the TTArtisan version because the XF 27mm f/2.8 (Mark I) doesn't offer an aperture ring, but the flare resistance is horrible (or non exists at all). I really love lens flare as a creative option but the TTArtisan gives an ugly flare that reminds me a dirty phone camera. I hope they are working on a Mark II version with better front element coating.
Maybe the most important specification on a lens the focal length is not mentioned until 7:49 seconds into this 9 minute video, interesting product nonetheless.
Great video and review, I didn't catch your introduction to this lens, the name or focal length of this product until I clicked on the link in the description. Was that intentional? Anyway, not a problem, very informative.
I sometimes leave out the brand name of the lens, to drive clicks, especially if it is a lens that has to be bought online anyways (so they have to click a link and some point). In this video I had a lot of problems with the recording, and shot the video 3 times, in the end I could not remember that I said in what take, and the omission of the lens details was unintentional.
Would you say its worth it for a moving around youtuber (automotive builds and car culture) ????? I see its good for talking head but would it work well i mean for walking around moving around talking to the camera or taking b roll of work i have done?
I would have got this but had bought the Fuji 27mmf2.8(used) the week before this was announced. I honestly just love this focal length, it is so much like your eye.
Samyang 18mm f2.8 comes to mind. Not too big, not too expensive, I think people are generally positive about it. I don't own it though, so make sure to check some reviews.
4:34 China is actually really good at making optics, if yours is bad it's normally either the company designed it that way or they didn't pay for the good stuff.
Should I go with this lens or the full frame Viltrox af 20mm 2.8 lens for my aps-c camera? The Viltrox is actually cheaper here 🤓 and it seems good as well
You had me until the street light flares... too much for me... By the way, is the focus ring "by wire" or mechanical? I like to use MF for video and hate the focus by wire feeling with no limits...
Lol so someone please confirm i'm crazy but not once in this whole review did Mark mention the lens manufacturer or focal length? I mean I saw it on screen but it was never mentioned right? 🙃😂
Correct. The details are on the lens close ups, and in the links. I actually had audio issues, shot the entire video 3 times, by the end of it I couldn’t remember what I said, in what take, and just couldn’t bring myself shoot the video a 4th time. So it got published.
Waiting for mine to arrive. Hope it won't take a month. Too bad it's not as thin as Fujifilm's similar 28mm f/2.8, but it's nice that we have that as an option for Sony now, too.
@@markwiemels no problem happy to help. I found out the hard way when I first got mine. luckily, if you try to update it a second time on a Windows machine, it will fix the lens make it usable again.
Ah I got all excited thinking it was an autofocus f1.2 or faster. I'll have to stick to my Sigma 18-50 since it's also f2.8. Nonetheless, I'm very impressed with what TTArtisans, 7Artisans, Laowa and Meike are putting out for our little APSC's.
"walking around, documenting life" is a fast way to get into confrontations, or getting your camera smacked out of your hand onto the pavement - often without warning...
Yah, that’s going to be my main use. I actually prefer this focal length, over the traditional 23mm for aps-c cameras. Plus it’s small, dirt cheap, and has a bit a character.
@@markwiemels Not dirt cheap in my country standards, but still much cheaper than anything else AF for Sony E. I'm tempted to get it, but got 24 F2.8 and 30 F1.4 for my Sony APS-C so a little bit redundant :D.
The flares around the street light were amazing, best flares ever. I think it adds to the experience and does not take away. The overdone too high contrast of modern lenses and the over-sharpening is a huge turn-off for me. In the beginning I was amazed to have such high contrast and ultra-sharpness As the novelty wore off I'm more than annoyed by the fake over-photoshopped look the new lenses with the newest sensors are prone to give. In best case the shots look like flattened oil paintings, and worse cases appear as overdone AI creations that never saw the light of the day. No wonder AI photography has started scoring points as occasionally more believable than modern sensor/lens shots.
4:10 so You cannot change the contrast later?😎 For me there is better lower contrast I can increase later (especially in only certain areas of the photo) than too high contrast I cannot decrease. But I don't know about You...😁
This is cool, and maybe the prices have changed since the video was posted, but... there are currently five auto-focus lenses cheaper than this for the Micro 4/3 system. None come with the USB dock/back-cap thing, though, so that's pretty awesome. Edit: it's cheaper on their site, so there's only three lenses cheaper on B&H: Yongnuo 25 and 42.5 f/1.7 lenses, and Olympus 40-150/4-5.6
Big question...you and other reviewers mention that the 28mm would be a 35-40ish equivalent in full frame, but it IS aps-c, so...whats up with that? I do understand the difference between APS-C and FF, but it would still behave like a 28 for the APS-C, correct? I ask this because currently, I'm using the F mount AF-S DX 35mm 1.8 with adapter, but wanted to buy a wider focal length. The 35mm is 35mm in my Nikon Z fc, so this TTArtisan would be a 28mm as well...right?? Sorry if the question is dumb but I'm getting quite confused with how you explain it, and if it's going to produce images with a similar focal length to my AF-S DX 35mm, then there's no point in getting it...right? Correct me if I'm wrong, please 😵💫
The 28mm will be 28mm, your 35mm is 35mm. The sensor of a full frame camera captures a wider image, but when someone says the it's a 28mm ASP-C lens that does not mean they have done any calculation for the crop factor. For example a 28mm FF lens and 28mm APS-C lens, will have the same FOV on your camera.
Sometimes when a word moves from one language to another, it shifts in pronunciation. It happens all the time, and it's perfectly natural. Speaking of Japanese and English, how many words moved in the other direction without keeping their original pronunciation? Anyway, I understand and sometimes I'm tempted to share that pet peeve, but thinking of it this way helps me not to worry about it so much, so I thought I'd share.
Hey love your Channel! Would you rather recommend the ttartisan 27 2.8 over the fuji xc 35 2.0 despite the fact that fujis a plastic lens or is the fuji taking the edge?
Hi, for your information the fuji XC version is the budget version of XF version. They cheap out on the build frame but absolutely no change to the optics. Definitely get 35mm if that's your preferred fl.
It looks like my old Sigma 32.8 EX DN, whose price I think was similar or cheaper. But of course, that was ten or eleven years ago. Would be nice to test this one on my NEX-6
Hi, new subscriber here. My Mrs just bought the ZV e10 and I’m in need of your advice on what lens to get on a budget for travel flogging and podcasting.
I was thinking of getting this one for my Fuji X-T3 for a while now. I do own a manual 25mm 1.8 from 7Artisans but sometimes having autofocus is a good QoL. I was also thinking of maybe gettin the Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 for Fuji X Mount, I wonder if you've had a chance to use that lens and what's your opinion on it since it's around 500-600 dollars.
As Alternative, can you XC 35mm f/2 from Fujifilm trying. It has the same optic as Fujinon XF 35mm f/2, but in plastic body and even cheaper than this 27mm
Thanks for the review. Love your channel! I'm confused by the claim that this lens is suitable for both full-frame and APC-C on the Sony E-Mount. If it's designed for APS-C at 27mm then it will not work on full frame because it would show really severe vegetating. Sorry, I think you cover this... honestly, I haven't watched this video yet because I found it late at night. I'll watch it tomorrow.
@@markwiemels Yes. I understand that, but both the Amazon description and their official website claim that it is designed for both APS-C and full-frame Sony cameras. For brevity, I will just repeat the Amazon title, "TTArtisan AF 27mm F2.8 Auto Focus Lens APS-C Full-Frame Large-Aperture Wide Angle Lens for Sony E-Mount Cameras A6500 A6300 A6100 A9 A7RⅣ A7RⅢ A7Ⅲ A7RⅡ A7Ⅱ A7S A7R". I'd love to try this lens out on my Sony A7R II, but it's almost certainly going to show severe vignetting (vegetating??) Where did that spell-check mistake come from? LOL It would make more sense if the lens was designed for full-frame at 27mm and works as a 40mm on APS-C. That, I could understand. It's just not possible to go the other direction... APS-C -> full-frame. Life was so much easier before I upgraded to a full-frame digital camera. LOL I contacted the manufacturer about their confusing claim.
@sssdeecee I do believe you're overthinking it a bit dude lol. ALL APS-C lenses can work full frame as long as it's the the same mount. Should you use them on your full frame is a totally different question entirely. With the extra power a full frame has, why settle for an APS-C lens when you can get something designed to take advantage of the better sensors?
Just tested it, you get almost a full image circle, like a circular fish eye. Would still be nice on a high megapixel sensor in crop mode, or maybe post cropping a square image from a full frame shot.
Could you please make a video shooting yourself with a good phone for video? Like an iphone? I bet the quality would be much better than shooting with this lens :)
Phone footage always looks like phone footage, no matter what you do with it, this is not a bad thing, you can just tell it’s from a phone. The fact is, the phones are great now, and people have seen them so much, that some people prefer phone video over the footage from real cameras, which is fine.
You gotta stop making videos I've already bought 3 lenses (with your links) that you highlighted and I'll probably buy this one too, your videos are too good!
Depends on what you shooting, this lens majorly works for bokeh,portraits and street photography . Kit lens provides you more range zoom , video stabalization ,natural colours depends on your use.
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I need one for my m6 mk ii :(
It's a 27mm f/2.8 for those still wondering a few minutes in
Oh.
I have the Fuji version which is staggeringly good, never misses focus, beautiful colours and is tack sharp. I bought for £160 second hand (same price as this TTArtisan). I never leave home without it.
It's an awesome little lens and I cannot stop getting surprised every time I get an amazingly sharp image at times when I'm not expecting it. I bought it for my street shooting on the budget for my X-E3. The footprint of this combo is just right for the job.
This is my main lens! The focal length is pretty decent for most things, and the form factor makes my XT-3 easily packable.
I have their 50mm all (manual) for my Sony A7iii. Great lens too. Set the aperture and shutter speed, then let the camera sort out the ISO. Range focusing is perfect for street photography. You can forget about the camera and concentrate on the shot.
Literally the best value photographic purchase I've ever made. It's short comings are the vignette which can be minimised by stopping down or eliminated in post, easily enough. The flaring is common in a lot of cheap Chinese lenses for sure. You can see the flaring in the view finder/rear lcd and recompose to minimise or eliminate it or even use it artistically if you want. Once you are aware of its shortcomings it can produce excellent images which are sharp edge to edge and have a really nice colour rendition. I even prefer to use this lens to use this lens over the highly rated Fujinon XC 35mm f2 on occasion. I have taken test shots at similar apertures and the TT Artisans has superior edge sharpness when stopped down a bit.
Now it's $160 so not the cheapest autofocus now 😂
I love the inspiration of critical analysis of lower cost, neglected lenses.
Thank you!
Did you actively try to not mention the name of the lens manufacturer during this video? 😏
Me too. what,s the use? Should we use a mind weld?
I just screenshot the scene and the link. Then create a note with those and conduct my own research.
I guess it's a marketing trick trying to get people to go to his site. I find it incredibly annoying.
Well, the name of the maker is on the front ring of the lens 😎
@@ericj.w.ruijssenaars3421Thanks. I'll take that "informative contribution" as confirmation that it wasn't actually mentioned. 😏
I own Fuji 27mm f2.8 and I love it. The Fuji version has much better micro contrast and is almost permanently attached to my X-E1. It makes the camera almost pocketable and is fantastic on the go/street photography kit.
Just recently bought the XE-1, was rocking it with Helios 44, and was thinking about getting TTArtisan's 27, glad I've seen your comment :)
@@drewww8778yes, I have tested TT-Artisian and compared to it my copy of Fuji 27mm. The Fuji probably has better coating because I was getting better micro contrast, nicer colors and quite a bit less of lens flare. You can find a decent copy of used Fuji 27mm for almost the same price as new TT-Artisian 🤷🏼
@@photo_n_art thank you!
I have one, it's awesome! It's my go-to for daily use.
(Canon users) it’s ok, you can rely get a ef 24mm 2.8 apsc for $125
Thanks for closing the door. My OCD was kicking in.
haha.. I only did it because of the change in composition with this lens... it may come back.
I would have thought your ocd would make you frustrated that there's a pot plant in front of the door!
That’s always bugged my OCD too 😂
I love this lens.. best purchase I made this year for my fuji
Yes, I feel the same.
I have and love this lens on my Fujifilm X-M1. It gives me great result with black and white.
Bout the Xa1 recently. Looking for a good piece of glass for it. Have all sorts of fuji glass, looking for something low-profile. Tried the 18mm/f6.3 - and did not like the results. Probably ordering this 27mm today. How's the X-m1 working for you?
@@davidtorke92, I have a lot of fun with it. Its black and silver case get compliments on the street, gives me fantastic captures. And saved me a lot of money over the newer gens.
I was in a bind as my X-pro2 stb last month and Fuji USA offered me a discounted X-Pro3 as a replacement - $1700! So, looking for alternatives I settled on the X-t2 used from MPB ($525) and this little shooter from eBay Japan ($195). Really dig the files, reminds me of the files from my x-pro1 - really dig it. Wish I'd stumbled upon it sooner. @@ChadWilson
This is a lens for everyone using APS-C cameras. If you’re a Fuji owner, I think it’s a lens you just have to pick up. When compared directly to the Fujifilm XF 27mm f/2.8, I found this lens to be better overall, sans weather sealing. If this lens had weather sealing, then I would honestly see no reason to own the Fuji version. I personally didn’t like that lens because of the significantly higher amount of focus breathing and seemingly shorter minimum focusing distance. I know that on paper they claim they’re the same, but I always had trouble taking photos of things in my hands on the Fuji lens and I never had a problem with this lens. Great video. You’re extremely well spoken and articulate.
Thanks, there are my sentiments on the lens as well. It’s might be my “lens of the year” this year. I just don’t see how you can beat it for the price.
Just for kicks I compared portrait shots taken in low light with the TTArtisans at f2.8 on a Fuji with the Nikon 40 f2 and the 35 f1.8 taken at f4 on the Nikon Zf for similar depth of field. I was blown away that the TTArtisans image was far and away sharper with good contrast. It was not even close.
Wow!
The quality of products coming out of China has improved drastically over the last 15 years. (In part due to corporate espionage it should be said.) I first noticed this with Fender and Squire guitars built in China. You can buy an excellent electric guitar made in China for $450. That wasn’t the case in the early 2000s. I own the Viltrox 75mm f/1.2. Aside from the minimum focusing distance, which is a bit crap, everything else about the lens is on par with the Fujifilm 56mm f/1.2. There are some complaints about the sun stars and flaring with the Viltrox but for the price I think that can be overlooked for most users. I’ve never owned a TTArtisan lens but at $150 there’s almost no reason not to give it a try.
Agree. I mean on a scale of 1-10, it gets 5 bonus points for being cheap, small, and having autofocus. It’s actually one of my favourite lenses right now.
I have a tiny TTArtisan 32 F2.8 full frame lens for my Nikon Z7 for $100, I was shocked that this lens is so sharp, not just in the centre, but right to the corners, wide open. The only downside is lens flare against light sources, which is quite severe. I actually like the slightly lower contrast of these cheap lenses, because I think modern lenses are too contrasty, especially in bright sunny day, which leads to blown highlights and dead shadows, these lenses produce images which look more natural to me, and also give me more headroom shall I need to do post-processing.
The rear lens cap has design flaws. The pin broke easily. Managed to exchange another new set from the dealer but the same problem happened. Besides that it is a very good lens! The optical performance is good. Best paired with my ZVE10. The autofocus performance is good in video mode.
I just snagged my first camera from OfferUp, Sony a6100 w/ kit lens for $300 US! Steal! Because I got such a great deal I'm looking at alternatives to the Kit lens. Thanks for putting this ttartisan lens on my radar! I would love to see a comparison of this lens to a big brand pancake lens, specifically the Sony 20mm pancake lens. Have you experience with that lens? It would be great to hear your thoughts because one can justify getting the Sony pancake on the used market as I've seen them around $200 US.
Thanks for making a great a video!
I just bought one new on Amazon during Amazon Prime day for 103 bucks shipped. Insane.
I see Melbourne Central there and even Laksa King.
Yep! It’s all there!
Notice that too 😅
Hey Mark! Super interesting lens, I wonder if they'll bother making it in a Canon M mount at this point, I hope they do.
Off topic question for you, I have heard that one of the "problems" with the Canon M6 Mark II is that a lot of the M mount lenses lack the ability to fully resolve all the megapixels on that sensor. Do you think the Viltrox primes are "enough lens" for that sensor, or should I invest in the Sigma primes, or another option entirely?
Sigma all the way , viltrox works for 24mp and under , sigma punches a bit higher
An affordable pancake. Thanks for highlighting it. If I'm honest I quite like the lens flare for video and I'm not opposed to a little bit of vignetting. At £169.00 you can't grumble for the price.
Yeah, I don’t mind the flares either.
Any experience using this lens on an FS5?
I was telling others when there are more than 3 auto focus lens manufacturers in China... competition within China will drive down lens price for all brands... and it has just arrived...
I hope they make one for the M50! I was looking for a cheaper alternative for the sigma 16mm and found your video yesterday. I've since binged through a bunch of others lol. Your in depth but simple way of explaining is extremely helpful! I actually bought the sigma 16mm alt you suggested from this same company. I'm an artist/designer by trade and like.. everyone is adding chromatic ab/lense effects in post! To get that subtly in camera is pretty neat I look forward to more from this company. Thank you for being awesome at explaining!
This is 27mm f2.8, I'm not sure it's a cheaper alternative to the Sigma 16mm f1.4. Canon's own 22mm f/2 would be closer than this lens. If this lens was 16mm even at f2.8 I'd buy it.
@@GrantMcWilliams Oh I think my comment was unclear there's another video of Mark's where he talks about a 17mm f1.4 (or close to this can't remember exact specs) from the same company that I'm referring to. I hope they make one of these 27mm for canon as well I'm in the beginner low budget phase and I like what this manufacturer is doing. I'm literally waiting impatiently for my 17mm to arrive now cannot wait to play!
@@thestellarelite Yes, I think they have a 17 mm f1.4 manual focus for EF-M but I'd like to have an AF version. The painful reality is all lens manufacturers are going to dump EF-M now that the mount is dead. I really wanted Sigma's short zoom that just came out for Fuji and Sony. If I had that I would probably just keep using my M6II until it finally died but currently I don't have what I want.
@@GrantMcWilliams I've now tested it out and it does exactly what I wanted which was more DoF background blur for my videos without spending $800+. Great little lens nice build. The manual focus is difficult took a lot of testing but I managed. When you say the mount is dead do you mean it's just too old and no one is developing for it anymore?
@@thestellarelite Not too old, just abandoned. I was hoping third parties would jump in and release some lenses for the EF-M market as soon as Canon abandoned it but I'm fairly sure at this point that that will not happen. Even third parties want nothing to do with it since new cameras aren't being built. Since there are no new cameras the market will shrink as people move on or cameras die and nobody wants to be producing products for a market that only has one way to go.
It's very sad for me because Canon can't make an M6II replacement because the lenses will always be much larger. Maybe they could get close with a camera body with RF mount but not an RF lens. Fuji could do it but they spend a lot of time just making weird cameras that don't seem to have any direction (WTH do I care about an LCD showing the label from a film box from the 80's?). Sony does make a camera that fits into the M6II market and the lenses are small but I've had enough Sony's to know that isn't the direction I want to go. So, I wait and keep using my EF-M cameras. I would really like to have a fast, short zoom though. If I had that I'd keep it for the foreseeable future.
On Fujifilm there is an option to buy a used XF 27mm f/2.8 lens for a few more dollars. That is much-much better option, especially the lens coating is far more advanced. I was curious about the TTArtisan version because the XF 27mm f/2.8 (Mark I) doesn't offer an aperture ring, but the flare resistance is horrible (or non exists at all). I really love lens flare as a creative option but the TTArtisan gives an ugly flare that reminds me a dirty phone camera. I hope they are working on a Mark II version with better front element coating.
Maybe the most important specification on a lens the focal length is not mentioned until 7:49 seconds into this 9 minute video, interesting product nonetheless.
Yeh, I made a mess of that.
Nice to see sweet photos of my home town. Ta Mark
I’ve liked what I have gotten out of mine. Its very contrasty and saturated and vignette-y in a way I like.
It has character! woww like vintage hah? amazing
Mention about it's coma correction ability and do it have wave distortion?
love your channel, always a great job in the videos. greetings from brasil
Great video and review, I didn't catch your introduction to this lens, the name or focal length of this product until I clicked on the link in the description. Was that intentional? Anyway, not a problem, very informative.
I sometimes leave out the brand name of the lens, to drive clicks, especially if it is a lens that has to be bought online anyways (so they have to click a link and some point). In this video I had a lot of problems with the recording, and shot the video 3 times, in the end I could not remember that I said in what take, and the omission of the lens details was unintentional.
My mint mint Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM was $92 + shipping on eBay.
Excellent video! Am just loving your presentation style :)
Thanks, I’m working on a video comparing the 3 - 27mm lenses for X mount now. I suspect that’s what you’re researching.
Would you say its worth it for a moving around youtuber (automotive builds and car culture) ????? I see its good for talking head but would it work well i mean for walking around moving around talking to the camera or taking b roll of work i have done?
all of the video examples look REALLY fantastic
Thanks.
Last weekend I got my first ttartisan lense, 25 2.0, game changer with the cheap m50!
I would have got this but had bought the Fuji 27mmf2.8(used) the week before this was announced. I honestly just love this focal length, it is so much like your eye.
Agree. I'm working on a video comparing the Fuji 27, the Viltrox 27, and the TTArtisans 27. The small size of the Fuji 27mm is really cool.
This give me vibes of my 24mm and 40mm Canon pancakes :)
I am looking for a semi-fast (f2 or f2.8) 18mm AF that is compact but packs some good optical results. Thank you.
Samyang 18mm f2.8 comes to mind. Not too big, not too expensive, I think people are generally positive about it. I don't own it though, so make sure to check some reviews.
Does it work on Sony Full Frame?
I like seeing Melbourne highlighted in your video. Can't dsay Ill get it, as I've the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 on my Sony, but interesting nevertheless!
Great review!
I hope someone makes cheap full frame AF lenses
4:34 China is actually really good at making optics, if yours is bad it's normally either the company designed it that way or they didn't pay for the good stuff.
Should I go with this lens or the full frame Viltrox af 20mm 2.8 lens for my aps-c camera? The Viltrox is actually cheaper here 🤓 and it seems good as well
You had me until the street light flares... too much for me... By the way, is the focus ring "by wire" or mechanical? I like to use MF for video and hate the focus by wire feeling with no limits...
How does it compare to the Fujifilm XC35mm f2, which is a couple bucks cheaper?
Does this lens have a lens profile for lightroom to correct distortion and vignetting?
Lol so someone please confirm i'm crazy but not once in this whole review did Mark mention the lens manufacturer or focal length? I mean I saw it on screen but it was never mentioned right? 🙃😂
Correct. The details are on the lens close ups, and in the links. I actually had audio issues, shot the entire video 3 times, by the end of it I couldn’t remember what I said, in what take, and just couldn’t bring myself shoot the video a 4th time. So it got published.
it would be beneficial to demonstrate how this lens looks on a small fuji camera like XT20 or XT30.....
Waiting for mine to arrive. Hope it won't take a month.
Too bad it's not as thin as Fujifilm's similar 28mm f/2.8, but it's nice that we have that as an option for Sony now, too.
I had the Fuji lens in the past, I don’t now, so can’t compare directly, but it has to be close. If it is any bigger, it won’t be by much.
"27mm" f/2.8
Shame they don't make it for F mount, I'd love to try it.
Great little lens, Mark. Nice stuff :)
It’s really impressive, at the price point, it has me excited about where TT is going with their lenses.
Is there any possible way that this lens could be used on Leica T? (L mount)
Why don’t they do it for m4/3? Would solve the vignette problem for one thing
FYI the firmware can only be updated using Windows. If you use macOS it becomes unusable
Thanks for the tip!
@@markwiemels no problem happy to help. I found out the hard way when I first got mine. luckily, if you try to update it a second time on a Windows machine, it will fix the lens make it usable again.
I'm loving the Melbourne shots :) Bringing so much memories. Is there any shops in Melbourne that sells it ?
Just Amazon, I think they are online sales only.
Canon ef-m 🙏🙏🙏
😢 We can only hope…
@@atlasbesikniyo8753 I’m going to approach the company and see if I can talk with someone about it.
sweet, worth a try for a A7c :)
I have used it on the A7IV and love it.
Ah I got all excited thinking it was an autofocus f1.2 or faster. I'll have to stick to my Sigma 18-50 since it's also f2.8.
Nonetheless, I'm very impressed with what TTArtisans, 7Artisans, Laowa and Meike are putting out for our little APSC's.
Yes, Sigma has hit a home run with that little 18-50mm.
Odd that Canon sells far more SLRs than any of the others but they do not make a Canon mount.
A L-Mount version would be great!
I hope we see that!
Interested to see how it performs with full-frame camera🤔
If it vignette at APS-C I would not even test it on FF.
"walking around, documenting life" is a fast way to get into confrontations, or getting your camera smacked out of your hand onto the pavement - often without warning...
Not sure where you live, but it sounds rough.
2:14 oh yes the brute force method of getting the viewers attention somewhere.
Hugh Grant? Is that you? Didn‘t know you‘re into photography 😂
No EOS-M :((
I know, it would be prefect.
Hi! Will you make a review on their latest 35mm f/1.8 autofocus lens?
Yea, I have one on the way.
Kinda interesting offering. Seems really nice choice for street photography ....
Yah, that’s going to be my main use. I actually prefer this focal length, over the traditional 23mm for aps-c cameras. Plus it’s small, dirt cheap, and has a bit a character.
@@markwiemels Not dirt cheap in my country standards, but still much cheaper than anything else AF for Sony E.
I'm tempted to get it, but got 24 F2.8 and 30 F1.4 for my Sony APS-C so a little bit redundant :D.
The flares around the street light were amazing, best flares ever. I think it adds to the experience and does not take away. The overdone too high contrast of modern lenses and the over-sharpening is a huge turn-off for me. In the beginning I was amazed to have such high contrast and ultra-sharpness As the novelty wore off I'm more than annoyed by the fake over-photoshopped look the new lenses with the newest sensors are prone to give. In best case the shots look like flattened oil paintings, and worse cases appear as overdone AI creations that never saw the light of the day. No wonder AI photography has started scoring points as occasionally more believable than modern sensor/lens shots.
Great video, thanks Mark. OK, I get it's less at 28mm than the Sigma 30mm, but how do they compare, given that they're similarly priced?
This lens should be over $100 less than the Sigma. If there were the same price, and the slightly bigger size did not matter, I would buy the Sigma.
@@markwiemels thought so...curiously Amazon Spain has the Sigma cheaper - €330 vs €375
@@WOTBoxTV that seems high for this little lens, I would search elsewhere.
4:10 so You cannot change the contrast later?😎 For me there is better lower contrast I can increase later (especially in only certain areas of the photo) than too high contrast I cannot decrease. But I don't know about You...😁
This is cool, and maybe the prices have changed since the video was posted, but... there are currently five auto-focus lenses cheaper than this for the Micro 4/3 system. None come with the USB dock/back-cap thing, though, so that's pretty awesome.
Edit: it's cheaper on their site, so there's only three lenses cheaper on B&H: Yongnuo 25 and 42.5 f/1.7 lenses, and Olympus 40-150/4-5.6
Big question...you and other reviewers mention that the 28mm would be a 35-40ish equivalent in full frame, but it IS aps-c, so...whats up with that? I do understand the difference between APS-C and FF, but it would still behave like a 28 for the APS-C, correct? I ask this because currently, I'm using the F mount AF-S DX 35mm 1.8 with adapter, but wanted to buy a wider focal length. The 35mm is 35mm in my Nikon Z fc, so this TTArtisan would be a 28mm as well...right?? Sorry if the question is dumb but I'm getting quite confused with how you explain it, and if it's going to produce images with a similar focal length to my AF-S DX 35mm, then there's no point in getting it...right? Correct me if I'm wrong, please 😵💫
The 28mm will be 28mm, your 35mm is 35mm. The sensor of a full frame camera captures a wider image, but when someone says the it's a 28mm ASP-C lens that does not mean they have done any calculation for the crop factor. For example a 28mm FF lens and 28mm APS-C lens, will have the same FOV on your camera.
Usually hear the mispronunciation "bo-kuh" from Brits, not North Americans. Its "bo-keh" (ボケ).
Just a pet peeve of mine. I'll go now, lol.
Haha... I know, I'm leaning into the mispronunciation.
Sometimes when a word moves from one language to another, it shifts in pronunciation. It happens all the time, and it's perfectly natural. Speaking of Japanese and English, how many words moved in the other direction without keeping their original pronunciation? Anyway, I understand and sometimes I'm tempted to share that pet peeve, but thinking of it this way helps me not to worry about it so much, so I thought I'd share.
Why its cheapest AF lens if its cost more than last Canon 50 1.8 STM EF?
What is the point of this lens if most people have better kit lenses already tho?
Does anybody make anything for canon except printer cartridges‽
Why you don’t mention about the mount? Is it for Z mount??
Yep, for Z, E, and X.
Firmware update process is ridiculous. Can only be done with Windows 10 and requires downloading WinRAR app.
Hey love your Channel! Would you rather recommend the ttartisan 27 2.8 over the fuji xc 35 2.0 despite the fact that fujis a plastic lens or is the fuji taking the edge?
Hi, for your information the fuji XC version is the budget version of XF version. They cheap out on the build frame but absolutely no change to the optics. Definitely get 35mm if that's your preferred fl.
It looks like my old Sigma 32.8 EX DN, whose price I think was similar or cheaper. But of course, that was ten or eleven years ago.
Would be nice to test this one on my NEX-6
what is the best anamorphic lens for the Canon M50?
Probably the SIRUI 35mm f1.8. It would be my pick anyways.
I believe this will never be available on canon! For sure!
Probably true.
Focusing down to 35cm. But it's apsc image.
Hi, new subscriber here. My Mrs just bought the ZV e10 and I’m in need of your advice on what lens to get on a budget for travel flogging and podcasting.
On a budget, I would stick with the it lens. You could also get the Viltrox 13mm, and use that for low light, and use the kit lens for normal light.
Thank you.
Look like Australia 🇦🇺
I was thinking of getting this one for my Fuji X-T3 for a while now. I do own a manual 25mm 1.8 from 7Artisans but sometimes having autofocus is a good QoL. I was also thinking of maybe gettin the Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 for Fuji X Mount, I wonder if you've had a chance to use that lens and what's your opinion on it since it's around 500-600 dollars.
I have not tested the 18-50, but my understanding is that it is very good.
As Alternative, can you XC 35mm f/2 from Fujifilm trying. It has the same optic as Fujinon XF 35mm f/2, but in plastic body and even cheaper than this 27mm
Thanks for the review. Love your channel! I'm confused by the claim that this lens is suitable for both full-frame and APC-C on the Sony E-Mount. If it's designed for APS-C at 27mm then it will not work on full frame because it would show really severe vegetating. Sorry, I think you cover this... honestly, I haven't watched this video yet because I found it late at night. I'll watch it tomorrow.
It's an APS-C Lens.
@@markwiemels Yes. I understand that, but both the Amazon description and their official website claim that it is designed for both APS-C and full-frame Sony cameras. For brevity, I will just repeat the Amazon title, "TTArtisan AF 27mm F2.8 Auto Focus Lens APS-C Full-Frame Large-Aperture Wide Angle Lens for Sony E-Mount Cameras A6500 A6300 A6100 A9 A7RⅣ A7RⅢ A7Ⅲ A7RⅡ A7Ⅱ A7S A7R".
I'd love to try this lens out on my Sony A7R II, but it's almost certainly going to show severe vignetting (vegetating??) Where did that spell-check mistake come from? LOL
It would make more sense if the lens was designed for full-frame at 27mm and works as a 40mm on APS-C. That, I could understand. It's just not possible to go the other direction... APS-C -> full-frame. Life was so much easier before I upgraded to a full-frame digital camera. LOL
I contacted the manufacturer about their confusing claim.
@sssdeecee I do believe you're overthinking it a bit dude lol. ALL APS-C lenses can work full frame as long as it's the the same mount.
Should you use them on your full frame is a totally different question entirely. With the extra power a full frame has, why settle for an APS-C lens when you can get something designed to take advantage of the better sensors?
I will test it and come back to you.
Just tested it, you get almost a full image circle, like a circular fish eye. Would still be nice on a high megapixel sensor in crop mode, or maybe post cropping a square image from a full frame shot.
I would suggest to skip the kit lens, use the money for this and a third party 50mm manual lens
That’s a good tip.
Could you please make a video shooting yourself with a good phone for video? Like an iphone? I bet the quality would be much better than shooting with this lens :)
Phone footage always looks like phone footage, no matter what you do with it, this is not a bad thing, you can just tell it’s from a phone. The fact is, the phones are great now, and people have seen them so much, that some people prefer phone video over the footage from real cameras, which is fine.
Why would the quality be better on a phone?
You gotta stop making videos I've already bought 3 lenses (with your links) that you highlighted and I'll probably buy this one too, your videos are too good!
Sony link seems to lead to Fuji
Thank you for letting me know! Fixed it now.
Its better than Sony kit lens ?
Depends on what you shooting, this lens majorly works for bokeh,portraits and street photography . Kit lens provides you more range zoom , video stabalization ,natural colours depends on your use.