Rom & the Red Moon [Bloodborne Lore]

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  • @SinclairLore
    @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ► Please don't forget to 🌠Like and Subscribe🌠it really helps us out

  • @masterdeathhand
    @masterdeathhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I like this thumbnail, but I will always love the one in which Sin is dressed as rom.

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      How to say you're a cultist without saying you're a cultist

    • @joshuah6910
      @joshuah6910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I will forever keep that thumbnail archived in my heart.

    • @IrvingIV
      @IrvingIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SinclairLore
      37:13
      Having performed wolf skip, (it let me explore areas out of sequence and rewind time using the Oedon chapel doorway after the blood moon) I can confirm Sophie's supposition concerning the arrival of amygdalae, I found none dangling from the buildings when exploring the Yahar-Gul rooftops in the early evening.

  • @oceanviolets1306
    @oceanviolets1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "I forgot where I was going with this, but I'm pretty sure Sophie was talking"
    THATS IT, THATS THE SHOW

  • @emccoy
    @emccoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We know how Willum gets in and out of the lake, his rocking chair does fly after all.

  • @nolanbrewer877
    @nolanbrewer877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    omg that ending of you two singing what is love to dancing rom put such a huge smile on my face

  • @TriToneTiefling
    @TriToneTiefling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "What is Rom?" A what is love cover.

  • @flappy_meal_3214
    @flappy_meal_3214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I audibly went woah when u talked abt how rom is actually on an altar at the altar of despair, and that it’s the altar that brings Annalise back to life, not the rom corpse. Who would’ve thought that after all these years I would still able to learn something new about one of my favorite games from one of my favorite podcasts, thanks for everything guys :)

  • @raltaeus
    @raltaeus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was just recommended through youtube and this is genuinely such a good listen/watch, I'm glad I've found the channel and am excited to get into more episodes!

  • @lov_eli
    @lov_eli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's kinda criminal that you have such a well made podcast video with really awesome theorycrafting and don't have more views, loved your chemistry!

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      aw ty so much for ur support!

  • @francisco8345
    @francisco8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you guys for still making content about BB after all this time. To me there are 5 last mayor mysteries left in bloodborne:
    - whats up with Brador
    - whats up with the creepy orphanage
    - why is the lecture hall in the nightmare
    - moon presence motivations
    - amygdalas role

    • @meganwynn372
      @meganwynn372 ปีที่แล้ว

      the amygdala is a Nightmare, the outcome when a human and Great One make contact. but not kin.

  • @neatigloo
    @neatigloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also, when Rom was reborn as a Great One (sorta) but became vacuous, was that the still birth of her brain? Like Mensis meeting Mergo, but they became vacuous, unable to ascend? Human Rom had audience with Kos, she almost ascended but failed = vacuous. Which now brings me to another random thought... Master Willem he seems to have lost most of his mind once we find him.... unable speak and weak.... If he suffered the malady of Eldritch encounters, which great one would it have been? Ebrietas?

    • @Reliken
      @Reliken ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem here is that unlike Rom, the Brain of Mensis was "a legitimate great one." So they did ascend (assuming the Brain of Mensis is what happened to all the Mensis scholars, Father than something they captured and were killed by).

  • @barbarosaa87
    @barbarosaa87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How about a lore video (made up) on Moon-Moon Presence?

  • @robertbaumann9155
    @robertbaumann9155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That the Altar of Despair is something Rom's corpse sits on, rather than the corpse itself, is a detail that makes so much sense but that I never realized! I also think that, like you were pointing out, Rom's corpse could have been brought their either before the events of the game or in the time-skip between when we kill Rom and wake up. I think it is most likely that they did it in the time skip, just because it seems like Rom's ritual was done after the Red Moon in Old Yharnam in an attempt by Byrgenwerth to keep the Church from doing it again. The Choir could have brought her corpse to the Altar of Despair in a desperate attempt to bring her back to life and keep the Mensis Ritual from continuing.

  • @GlobTheDabGlob
    @GlobTheDabGlob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it’s so nuts that you guys don’t have a huge channel. Content is so whacky but always informative and every single guest the podcast has always seem to have great chemistry with Sin and Soph. This channel has been in my top 10 for a year or two now and I don’t regret a second spent watching all these vids lol.
    Can you two keep doing this forever until I die? Pls and thnk you.

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aw thanks so much for your words. It can get discouraging at times knowing the algorithm doesn't really pick up our content, but the community is amazing

  • @ronaldsegrest3464
    @ronaldsegrest3464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Because her name was Roma and how spiders tend to dangle, instead of a carrot, all I can picture Rom as is a giant Tomato now.

  • @walabixha1746
    @walabixha1746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "do moon snacks exsit"
    Well have you not read about the big moon energy drink? It's like you're not reading the lore smh...

  • @Proctor_Conley
    @Proctor_Conley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The school of Byrgenwerth seems to value physical transformations, particularly of plant-like bugs.
    There's the Spiders, Rom, Garden of Eyes (with spider talisman), Brainsucker, & Florescent Flower.
    That's a lot of bugs, clearly showing the Byrgenwerth was transforming folks into bug forms in hopes of gaining enlightenment.
    The Healing Church seems to create beasts, the Choir creates Celestial Emissaries, & Mensis creates Winter Lanterns.
    Even still, scholars are often slugs & spiders. Perhaps the plant-like Amygdala are transformed scholars too? Yharnam City is surrounded by plants; perhaps they were first?

  • @BradleyOmNomWorth
    @BradleyOmNomWorth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love you guys, but my only 'gripe' is the amount of notes in videos now... I love hearing you two say something and the other (usually Sophie) burst out in laughter and react sarcastically - I feel like notes take that away. But I might be alone in this and I'm still a loyal patreon, just wanted to say! 😘

    • @sophie.m.pilbeam
      @sophie.m.pilbeam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Imagine how I feel

    • @merodach566
      @merodach566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Though some of the notes are plain out brilliant. Specially whenever Master Hidetaka Miyazaki shows up. Love that guy!

    • @verakeyes9675
      @verakeyes9675 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can understand where some people might find the notes frustrating at times but like Sophie said and one of The Other podcasts She was attracted to sins channel Because she took a light-hearted look at bloodborne lore. I think this is a very clever way of showing how serious they are about giving you the lore that you tune in for but also keep in it light hearted And not over bearing. There are some great channels that do lore, but I feel they take themselves too seriously at times. And this is the reason this channel will always be my go to channel on souls lore

  • @neatigloo
    @neatigloo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Rom video.... I'm one of the hopeless.... someone that could listen to others talk about Bloodborne 7 years later..... Soph, can you tell Lance McDonald he really, really needs to finish his video about "Upsidedown Byrgenwerth". He teased it a few years ago, boasting about how much content of the University he has to show, hehe.

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Something about Rom always struck me as the point of the game where you have to go all in on being a hunter.
    What I mean by this is that most of the game leading up to Rom has you react to the violence and horror bearing down on you but Rom is different.
    You go to Rom. Rom doesn't start hostile and when fighting, she fights is very passive and franticly. It feels like you as a hunter have to walk into the Rom fighting wanting to kill her or at the very least the fight tells you that you're supposed to give into the instinct to kill her as your prey.
    I studied Aikido for a bit and you're always trying to de-escalate fights. You're trying to supposed to learn self control so that you are not to source of escalation of conflicts and with Rom I could feel that she just wanted to be left alone that I was the invader of her world. My first time through the game I was playing with a sense of curiosity and wonder. I kept wondering how I could undo all of the damage and with Rom I realized that I was wrong.
    The game puts you in Yharnam to destroy it all and with the death of Rom there is no more mistaking the truth.
    No matter what you were before, now, you are a hunter.

  • @aceretrogaming
    @aceretrogaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found this channel through your cameo on the Internet Pitstop, absolutely love the podcasts. Im officially addicted to your channel now and look forwards to all your new content!

  • @JackBz
    @JackBz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly this is the only soulsborne lore stuff I watch/listen to where I basically agree with or am convinced of every conclusion being made. Been a highlight of my last few weeks listening

  • @Snvw
    @Snvw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    roms eyes darting around kind of looks like the amygdalas laser attack where the eyes pop out of different holes in a fast pace, maybe if rom's head was larger the eyes would fit inside holes on her head?

  • @Sayucchin
    @Sayucchin ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting how rom's design is clearly an iteration upon Primeval demons from demons souls. She's a new born higher being just like them, with the same weird umbilical cord tails. The Primeval demons also don't really fight back and we just slay them for their power

  • @blackgatefox501
    @blackgatefox501 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the videos on BloodBorne! Honestly my heart is so happy to see people are still excited by this game. I love this game so much

  • @trippyalan8165
    @trippyalan8165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought that Rom was vacuous because she was still really young, relative to a higher being, I mean she’s been a kin of the cosmos for how long, like 10, 15, 20 years? So even with all of that time, it’s still no where near enough for her to adjust.
    One last thing, I don’t remember from where I know this, but I’m pretty sure Willem was pissed at Rom because she wasn’t communicating with him and shit, and my thoughts about that is that Rom is on such a higher plane of existence, even with how young she is, that she isn’t able to communicate with humans. It’s like you trying to talk to an ant.
    I don’t know if all of this is correct but thats what I always thought.
    Also I haven’t watched this podcast in like 3 months and omg this is amazing, thank you for granting us eyes.

    • @juanausensi499
      @juanausensi499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm with you on this. Willem hoped transformed Rom will reveal to him all secrets of the cosmos, but Rom didn't. So he called her 'vacuous' either by misunderstanding of her motives or by spite. It's clear not everybody thinks Rom is stupid, because Micolash really wants to take the same path she went, and the second note about Rom says she reached true enlightment, but she actively did choose not to share that.

  • @editor8394
    @editor8394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found your channel and am listening to everything. I am loving the old stuff but also this new remake series! Looking forward to more ❤

  • @Nyxiii
    @Nyxiii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice work guys ❤

  • @c7plus0
    @c7plus0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “It’s 4:40AM and I’m really feeling it!” - Sophie

  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your animations are so beautiful! Who did them?

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holdsworthhands!

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SinclairLore awesome! Really enjoyed the video

  • @jaimeleonlopezbermea7251
    @jaimeleonlopezbermea7251 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still can't believe they dropped "Rom the idiot/blind spider"... it was right there.

  • @alienbutlerblunders5464
    @alienbutlerblunders5464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this channel and I love it. Great discussion, and your love for BB shows through very clearly.
    My personal impression playing the game was that Byrgenwerth was built next to the lake because Rom was an ancient being there to start with. Always though Rom was a genuine great one, but never considered she was made by Willem and Co to control reality.
    Really sad when you consider Brain of Mensis by comparison may just have been a product of Micolash's jealousy, or maybe just curiosity to emulate Rom. Instead BoM became a dead vegetable monster, incapable of response, though would have been an incredibly boss fight if a success (think cleric beast with a winter lantern head)
    Rom was tough but I always found her incredibly graceful, dignified and mothering, even if she was an awful inhuman abomination. Seeing ebrietas as a moth and her as a caterpillar almost made me think they are one in the same (where Rom might mature into a winged Ebrietas, as a caterpillar would pupate), and if so maybe Ebrietas was once human, transformed by the Choir and trapped in a damp dungeon basement. How else would they be able to contain her? Unless captured as an infant and nurtured in the basement of the cathedral?
    Personally I think Ebrietas is a bs boss fight, her health bar is insane. Very difficult to solo.

  • @varden506
    @varden506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sophie’s cutaways had me on the floor 😂

  • @Mojj2099
    @Mojj2099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that extra cut dialogue from Micolash ??? It’s so cool omg

  • @bluskye7899
    @bluskye7899 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think perhaps killing Rom is symbolic of how carelessly messing with Eldritch forces when we can't fully understand them is dangerous.

  • @brandondarnell1150
    @brandondarnell1150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love how i came back to the video and everytime i scrolled the bar and stopped it i would just hear laughing

  • @silentservant_
    @silentservant_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason we see Amygdala everywhere is because we’re in a nightmare and the amygdala is part of the human brain 🧠 and nightmares and fear and anxiety, emotions like these originate in the amygdala of the brain.

  • @mikkoheiskanen3755
    @mikkoheiskanen3755 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:34 "We don't know anyone called Rom..." There's the Israeli computer scientist Raphael Rom of the Catmull-Rom spline fame.

  • @quinnsine1650
    @quinnsine1650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do we think Rom was the mother of some 50 children and she insisted they attend everything she did?

  • @117neither
    @117neither 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:05 the sixty minute clock originated as early as sumer - prague has the oldest clocktower in the world

    • @117neither
      @117neither 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      also love the idea that the "rom" everyone is fretting about is "rome", would not've considered it without you two mentioning names in this game are what the people who first encounter it utter first. great video!

  • @popesinbengal
    @popesinbengal ปีที่แล้ว

    Why am I only now learning of this channel. Gold mine

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww! Ty!
      Well if you work long hours, we have a long playlist lol th-cam.com/play/PLOIA4n5j7KcZaBII_ybUP9MuW_gJcqloG.html&si=HzIho9W8MpWn2yos

  • @lorenfulghum2393
    @lorenfulghum2393 ปีที่แล้ว

    the guts statue on miyazaki's desk 😂

  • @jankbunky4279
    @jankbunky4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not to say it's boring, but I'm gonna fall asleep to this now.
    Thanks for the gud vid :)

  • @jledmist87
    @jledmist87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope they're not getting rid of the old ones

  • @dahliasdarkside1695
    @dahliasdarkside1695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way Google Sassed you about ur Spotify after u called her useless

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ROM the vacuous spider is it anything like a vacuous truth in philosophy, that’s what I was wondering if that’s the type of vacuous it refers to

  • @UncleFenris
    @UncleFenris ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been going through old episodes and love Jersey Miyazaki interludes. Who voices Jersey Miyazaki?
    Love the content!

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really him.

    • @UncleFenris
      @UncleFenris ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SinclairLore of course, silly of me to assume otherwise 😅

  • @ripsterhipster5948
    @ripsterhipster5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The winter lanterns are also wearing the doll clothing set

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! And if you like Winter Lanterns we have a whole episode here :) th-cam.com/video/r1JFulI70S0/w-d-xo.html&

    • @ripsterhipster5948
      @ripsterhipster5948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SinclairLore awesome! I just found your channel. BB is a masterpiece and i love it. Have any more good ones from Bloodborne that i should check iut?

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ripsterhipster5948 Glad you found us!
      Well our channel primarily focuses on Bloodborne, so we have a lot of that lol. I think the more recent ones are the best ones.
      For example:
      • Pthumeru: th-cam.com/video/ehL2XAj9i7Y/w-d-xo.html&t
      • Brador: th-cam.com/video/yGACbbXxZWA/w-d-xo.html&t
      • Healing Church: th-cam.com/video/kM7I0zm8N_c/w-d-xo.html&t
      • General Themes of BB: th-cam.com/video/mt-kx3GHSXI/w-d-xo.html&t
      • 10 BB facts: th-cam.com/video/vQMjS69riwc/w-d-xo.html&t
      • Micolash: th-cam.com/video/wPBE5edHUF4/w-d-xo.html
      Hope this helps!

  • @QamarAbbas-nb2cl
    @QamarAbbas-nb2cl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    producer's version? I just want to make sure I get the right one for .

  • @lightningandodinify
    @lightningandodinify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rom is cute. She means well 🥺

  • @captainbeefster
    @captainbeefster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a theory that has no evidence (that I know of) other than the fact that Fromsoftware likes to reuse story beats. I think that it’s possible that when you go into the Chalice Dungeons and kill Rom, the Bloodletting Beast, the Queen of Yharnam, etc., that is actually how they died originally. Similar to the story of Artorias of the Abyss where you go back in time and kill Artorias, but it turns out that it had always been you who killed him. Something like this also happens in Bloodborne when you kill the Blood-starved beast, and then the Choir come in after you and take the chalice.

  • @bearVshark100
    @bearVshark100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s nice to know that Australia is only slightly less horrifying than Yharnham

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      looool

    • @mykalkelley8315
      @mykalkelley8315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Especially during lockdowns

    • @yurinoworry
      @yurinoworry ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mykalkelley8315 what are you doing out on the night of the hunt?
      are you that outsider? well sorry, but I don’t want anything to do with ya!

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude Rom just stands there? The spiders do not however they will chase you down and jump at your head first

  • @beansnrice321
    @beansnrice321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, that's it's if I ever have a daughter I'm going to name her Rom, just so people can call her babies Romlets. XD

  • @coraline2770
    @coraline2770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you guys the best videos to watch while I wait for Elden Ring

  • @silent_stalker3687
    @silent_stalker3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rom sleeping bag merch, when? :3

  • @johntrains1317
    @johntrains1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait what? 20:06. I thought Kos was the one who explicitly cursed Yharnahm. Queen Yharnahm did too? Also, 19:00 "a man with several limitations has to be one of the most hurtful insults" oof.
    Also the more I stare at the QY model the more grotesque I realize it is, from the shackled hands to the bloody abdomen. Kudos to the creator.
    OH SHIT! AND THERE'S A GUTS ONE! FUCK YEAH

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah Yharnam has more than one curse XD they keep messing up!

    • @johntrains1317
      @johntrains1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SinclairLore no yeah I get that. I was talking about the curse of blood drunkenness that leads to the hunters nightmare, which seems to be Kos.
      In fact I forgot about the other curses cause it's been so long tbh 😢. So are we getting the lore of Dead Space and Spawn? 😂

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johntrains1317 hahah I hope so! Once our job situations stabilize it might get easier to release stuff

  • @r34lme
    @r34lme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bit late to ask but did Sophie take a pic of the spiders?

    • @SinclairLore
      @SinclairLore  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha i asked the same thing! i dont think she did

  • @seanfletter9098
    @seanfletter9098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did the same thing with Rammstein 🤣

  • @samwheller
    @samwheller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sooooo... question... why isn't Willam in The Hunter's Nightmare? I mean, that's like going to hell and not finding Hitler there...

    • @yurinoworry
      @yurinoworry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because he isn’t a hunter. He’s a scholar.

  • @zlatkotasevski9609
    @zlatkotasevski9609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did curse them but am I mad about it? No. I died 🤣

  • @msalicekeys
    @msalicekeys 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Y'ALL NEVER HAD A MOONPIE?!?!? 😭😭😋😋😋How do I send you each some

  • @kelseylynnmac
    @kelseylynnmac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know Rom kind of looks like a loaded sweet potato.

  • @hiddenshadow2105
    @hiddenshadow2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Associated beast-hunting community" :p

  • @Nihil847
    @Nihil847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao @ google confusing Ebrietas with Sabritas

  • @silentservant_
    @silentservant_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love Sophie ❤😂

  • @andrewkelley9405
    @andrewkelley9405 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some things never change: like Sin endlessly torturing Sophie and dragging these podcasts out infinitely.

  • @chriskaufman5214
    @chriskaufman5214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DU HAST DU HAST MEIZE

  • @bigdog517
    @bigdog517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:25
    Yup moonpies are a thing, mostly popular the older generation when they were younger afaik
    Don't see em much nowdays and I feel if I asked my friends about them they would ask me wtf I was talking about lol

    • @thesaltyelephant7980
      @thesaltyelephant7980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen banana moonpies more readily than chocolate and I've seen them at Walmart and Kroger with the snack cakes

    • @bigdog517
      @bigdog517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesaltyelephant7980 nice, I mostly see chocolate and at gas stations haha

  • @Lyscian420
    @Lyscian420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    59:30 average day in Australia. 😂

  • @bagofrandom
    @bagofrandom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    napoleon dynamite's moon boots

  • @DrownedLamp
    @DrownedLamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elden ring could 100% explicitly confirm BLB is Lawrence...people would still fight about it.