Real Estate Image Review - CTC E64
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Great to see you back Patrick and hope you are feeling a little better 👍
I love this series. But I have feedback.
It makes no sense to have the best image first. Now we all know what the highest rated is. If the first is 3.2 then my hopes to get a stellar looking image goes blank.
And also. Please get a pen for your surface. I would LOVE to see you scribble on the images as if it was a plastic surgeons canvas. It would be easier to see what you're talking about, like highlight certain areas and stuff.
Love the series! Seen all of them. Keep it up!
@@DeeDiazH they literally say every time that The highest rated image is the first one and that is why they win a free tutorial. It is the communitys highest rated image Im talking about. Not what The fstoppers team thinks.
Good idea on the pen. They could set the surface to screen record and match up the times with the recording so they could cut to it as they scribble.
amazing feedback. Fstoppers, you gotta listen to this man. show the best image in the end maybe and use a pen to scribble what you guys think.
Where are our two hair stylists when you need them? 🤦🏻♂️ -P
They died I guess
Patrick's good hair co-staring in a Cooke Optics video:
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Pat, you're telling me you guys were holding off publishing this for 3 days?!
Lucem Solar I mean, we have videos cued up and only release one video a day. -P
Lucem Solar I mean, we have videos cued up and only release one video a day. -P
I recommend showing us the screen more...like when Mike was playing around with the crop...we would like to see how he prefers the crop.
Behind the scenes conversation: “Should we look in the mirror before filming this?” “Nah, you look great.” Giggles loudly.
I've watched lots of these critiques and i can't take them serious anymore. I like Mike Kelly, he has a trained eye and i love how he justifies his arguments and he understands the point of the photos. But Patrick and Lee, no matter the genre of photography they critique with an amature mindset of:"is this photo good enough for your portfolio?" Which is plain wrong. I've seen Lee and Patrick's critique on minimalistic potography, or black and white or wildlife and they proved they have no idea of the concepts behind the genres. And when they don't understand them they use lame technical excuses about color or subject or framing. They should get out of their bubble and ask questions according to the genres they critique. For example fine art: in what way does this photo speak to me? Would i put it on my wall? Or real estate photography: does this picture make me want to buy that house? Etc. Best critique came from Pye Jirsa on wedding photography. His arguments were on point, his feedback was constructive and i will never forget how he croped that photo taken in motion and made it perfect just with a simple crop. It blew my mind. They should invite profesionals in the genres they critique because Lee and Patrick, no offense, are amatures compared to Mike and Pye and i learned nothing from them.
@fstoppers for the therapy pool, the bars on the right side of the frame are actually a lounging platform. Bubbles come up between the bars while you lay on it. It is called a thalassotherapy or hydrotherapy pool. I didn't take the picture, and your comments about the colors are definitely on point, but I think the half underwater shot is a neat way to show the features of the pool.
Mikes laughing at "nucular" but he was too nice to correct him to nucLEAR"
Patrick! Glad to see you come back! Hope you're feeling better. ♡ from Korea
Mike Kelley is my current favorite photographer. This was great to see his feedback on this. I wish I would have had time to put a shot in for him to critique.
Mike Kelley = insta-watch
Glad to know I won :) Thanks for the feedback!
Great work!
@@joeldeakin2003 Thanks a lot Joel 🙏
@@saweezaaa No problem friend! Thank you for replying, 9 months after your original comment :)
I thought the 5 at 16:40 was an insane shot. I've watched tons of these episodes and feel like I've developed a good eye for what's amazing and what ist't (even if I couldn't take/process 90% of the shots myself). So it was one of the rare times I was like: definitely getting a 5. To see Patrick give it a 3 was quite a shock tbh.
I think it would be really nice to include a "5 star image" for each of these episodes at the end, to see what a world class shot can look like.
Also great to see Patrick back!
Much as a Iove Patrick, I wish it was Lee and Mike for this one. I love the interplay/chemistry between the pair of them! haha
good to see you back, onward and upward.
I would love to see Mike go to one of these 3 star locations and show what he'd do different to get them to a 4 or 5. It'd be fun to see the difference.
Patrick has good logic and is able to articulate his feelings well. He also had good restraint when it comes to criticism.
Mike is really good with his points on what makes the picture good and what could be better. Although, it may not always be possible to do some things that he suggests in all locations - sometimes, a room is just what it is (like that white apartment with the poster bed). What can you do there? But it helps with understanding what to consider when you are gathering your work for a portfolio.
The amount of images in here that do not have correct verticals, or straight lines, combined with the chromatic aberration, and many of them have distortion, makes me think people really need to learn the basics before trying to go wild with editing. Also a lot of "smoke damage" around many of the windows caused by HDR or pushing the highlights and shadows too far.
Couldn't agree more. Getting so fed up with seeing these things everywhere these days.
With the 2nd image, I think the tablecloths are actually a cream colour. If you look, they have a 2nd cloth underneath which is actually white. It definitely does make the whole room too yellow though.
I really love thath this video is in 4k so I can look at the picture in full resolution and then in the corner are the guys, really nice.
Very interesting analysis and fun to listen to. BTW the crop of the pic at 16:45 is fine - tightening it up would place the sun too far on the edge.
Bottom right corner | Settings | Playback speed > 1.75
Otherwise ... always great to learn from Mike Kelley. Thanks for the video.
I subscribed to your channel, you paid attention to the beautiful house and interior features, and the scenery, great! I went to the forest and set up a prop cabin with branches. Follow the painter to travel. We work hard together.
Patrick is back!
Does that make sense?
You know what I mean?
Great series as always! Glad to see you back doing your thing, Patrick!
I think the 5 is great, but it makes me wonder if there was a better shot a little more to the left. The mountain in the background makes me wonder if there was something more interesting to the left than the young trees with supports on the right.
One thing i did notice on the first image - the swimmer looks completly still. If it had some motion blurr, or better yet, catching the moment, as he jumps in the pool, that could have been way more impressive of a shot. At the current state, the first thought came to my mind - he looks too close to being drowned. Still though, super impressive shot, way more over the top interior, than i have ever been to, yet.
Hey guys,
I think you should think about the raitingsystem in one way.
First I like your idea of the portfoliomatters. I just think you never ever use the one star rating.
Perhaps it would be interesting if you have like two steps of "needs work before it hits your portfolio"
Because sometimes its like you are saying "just remove one thing and go like 2 meters to the right and its a three star image" and on the otherside sometimes you say "do like 20 things and then perhaps you can take it in your portfolio". In my opinion you should forget about the snapshotimages or make them a zero and differentiate more on the photos which need some work.
Would be more interesting but its just my personal feeling.
And its great to have you back patrick
Go on with the good content!
12:11 speaking of crowded the left row of tables is literally touching the middle one where the right one is separated by like a foot
You are right, I had only five minutes to take the shot
48:45 is from Molde, Norway :) 222 mountains and some fjords. Epic view!
The keystoning on the "movie poster" could have been easily fixed. And, it is over saturated, moon's too big: The drone vertical would be rotated in post to straighten the roof line with the crop."The Henry" building has too much negative space on the right that detracts. I'd have cropped some of it out, moving the building right in the frame: At 58:00 Good shot, but there's a little yellow bush on the right margin that's distracting. It could have been zapped out. And, I think I may have zapped out the leaf or whatever it is at center bottom. Other than that I like it.
that straight out of bed to do a video look
Jonathan Thrasher yes they need to work a little on look
been using bigMIND storage for a while now, great to see they released a plan especially for photographers
Hi Patrick 👋🏽 glad to see you
New to your channel. I'm torn in my observations. The critical feedback pushes the potential quality of work. However, you have to be there and understand the dynamics that went into the photographers decision.
I feel like there is a lot to learn from watching your channel. I will watch all of your content.
Daniel Radcliff shouldnt be chewing gum when filming ...
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but, regarding the 17th image and the "wet" brickwork, I've noticed a few properties recently that intentionally treat their walkways/drives/etc with some kind of solution to make them have a perpetual gloss. The blue in the brick is kind of distracting though.
Yes! This is officially a great Friday
Mike, hopefully a Hamilton fan. Earlier in the year I got to photograph Lando Norris at McLaren(designed by Foster & Partners). It was the perfect mix of my two passions.
Lando is the best!!! I'm a big formula 1.5 follower
So in the bathroom picture he replaced the windows with beach views, but not the reflections of the windows?
The water place: The perspective is not corrected well, either. I agree with both of you on the other things.
The next time architecture/real estate/interiors is a topic line up some sponsors like perspective control lens manufacturers or DxO Viewpoint software. Heck! Get the view camera companies involved. A little help with perspective distortions is needed. 😀
None of that is needed lol. Lightroom and photoshop both, which 99% of RE photographers use, make it very easy to fix your lines, as well as fix your chromatic aberration. The amount of images in here without straight lines and with chromatic aberration shocks me. People need to learn the basics before they go crazy with the editing.
Wow, of all the times Mike could have voted 5 in all the videos I’ve watched, he chose that photo? 😳 I just didn’t get it. I wanted to crop it like Patrick did and I think the lighting was off. I’m just really surprised he loved it so much.
Thank you Mike and Patrick
on the oddly lit tree around 52 minutes. on long island where i live its normal to see houses have built in light installations under trees to light them up at night, not really meant for cameras just the house aesthetic that slightly wealthier people do
devinar12 oh we are aware of landscape lighting, but it still looks weird that the base of the plants aren’t lit. -P
For a future episode of ctc you could set the theme to music
Very interesting and a great episode for learning what makes or breaks a great real estate photo. How do we find out how to submit to upcoming episodes like this? I have been following some of Mikes tutorials, specifically for twilight shots, and would like to submit and have him critique some work as well
No chewing gum on interviews
I love Patrick and Mike..
more like good combo!
You guys should get a larger group and critique your own work
kacmaron I don’t shoot real estate so I’d have nothing to show...-P
Hi Pat. Nice to see u.
22:07 Looks like the Monster House movie poster
lol was it messy hair day at fstoppers? cuz if so i need to join i look like pat all the time
Thanks for these videos, I feel like they help.
When it comes to deciding the free tutorials, i think it should go to both the highest rated pic as well as the lowest rated out of the ones selected for the videos. That way a less seasoned photographer/editor has a higher chance of getting better from your tutorials, vs potentially randomly selecting a number that happens to be from a more seasoned pro
sure, and this would lead to a full bunch of the worst pics ever, posted with the hope to win a free tutorial.
The community on fstoppers is always really harsh! 😂
Patrick I just love your movies. I had no idea you did photography also. I just have one question. When you played the hobbit in lord of the rings did they have to put extra hair on your feet or was it all natural?
i don't know why i laughed so hard at "that chair... is that just the way it is?"
Why do you guys show the top scoring photo at first all the time? It lets both us, the audience, and you, the reviewers, know what the top possible rating from the community is.
Such a dramatic shot of a leasing office...one of the most boring and hated buildings to ever be in. Also the type of image that I can't stand when looking for apartments. It's almost always an indication that the listing shows more of the leasing office than the actual apartment.
Both these boys deffo just rolled outa bed 😂 their hair!!!
What am I missing here, where is the link to the automotive critique? Also says "See the full list of real estate submissions here:", where is that link? Are your links getting stripped or did Patrick / FS gang mess up on providing these links?
They have been updated. David just forgot to add them to the description. You can always find them on fstoppers.com/contests -P
Did they just roll out of bed for this one? All we’re missing is Lee Morris to show off his glorious glowing locks.
Guess the links are missing?
Yay Patrick!!!
Image #2, that is the sorriest Palm Tree I've ever seen.
HOW DID I MISS THIS ENTRY!?!?!?!?!!? F................:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please get somone with automotive photography experience to critique. I'd like to get some pro tips this time.
i was thinking why and how image review videos become my new thing on youtube. 'cause i am not a photographer at all.
Do you guys even own hairbrushes or razors?
i can only speak for me, but hell no i dont
I’m part of the reason Gillette just lost $8 billion dollars! -P
@@mikekelley I shot the 1-point bathroom shot at the end, thanks for the feedback and not being too hard on me for the slope issue. Your feedback means a lot to me as you are someone I follow very closely. I'm always trying to improve and move up in this business. Thanks Mike!
@@mikekelley Mike, would you recommend the Samyang 24mm TS lens? The Canon's are so expensive...
My favorite part of your channel, love this series.
I feel that the best image should be and extra photo (total 21 photos) and it should be at the end instead of at the beginning, in that way we have all the teaching part and warm up our eye to be able to explore it with you guys and hear your thoughts. 🤗
.Mike is one of my favorite artist right now, I love how he is becoming more and more subtle with his work ,and I hope he knows how inspirational he is for a lot of people.
Thanks you so much for your amazing videos and please thank him to take time to make this videos with you, they really help a lot and I’ll be happy to buy him lunch if one day we meet. 😉😁
@agustintash
10:17 HDR is great, unless it looke like an 80ties ski-overall...
Woah, I'm super early. This is awesome!
House @22:07 ummm like...if you have to do that dramatic a sky replacement, far too many light pops, and can't even white balance the fake twilight look...you're in the wrong business.
Big Bro and Little Bro I Love It
Patrick has been sick some people should lay off because he wasn't showing the crops he was talking about in this vid
So disappointed in Mike Kelley; his striped t-shirt is gone!
Woodland Photography?
Where's the link to submit, my whole portfolio is cars
fstoppers.com/critique-community/automotive
“Yaknowwhatimeaannn” 😂
15:00 it looks like a human-size hotdog roller
Fastest to a 5 to date?
The community was tripping when they rated the 4th image with only a 3
Did he say a two by four that's an inch thick? :)
Russian5 2x4s are used to frame walls. It’s a weird thing but a 2x4 actually measures more like a 1.75 x 3.75”. My point was if that was a wall, it should be thicker like 4 inches to 6 inches with Sheetrock. The wall in the photo looked like it was 1” thick so it couldn’t be a wall. -P
@@FStoppers 2x4 is the rough cut dimension (nominal), after finishing they are 1.5x3.5, this pattern is the same until you get to 2x8's or larger, that are actually 1.5x7.25.
Is stranger things house real at all?
A 2x4 that's like an inch thick. Hmmmm....
3rd picture in looks like CGI, especially the wall and door.
Looks literally almost like an example they used for Vray for Rhino 6 tutorials...
Community gives their hair 1.8.
boys, you can get combs 2/1$.
Let me try to help you with picture 3: It's technically excellent, BUT it's a boring picture.
"Military grade" - oh, so it's 30 years old and broken?
It is a mirror, you can see the shower head in the next room
First comment again
Critique the photo, not the architecture. It's possible to have a great photo of an ugly house.
Nucular! Like Trump's hair
Chewing gum detected :)
you use too much "you know what I mean", you know what I mean?
Why this dude look like that, giving me anxiety
I'm surprised you guys gave the 1st image a 4. Even though the architecture itself is amazing, the staging in that room is terrible and the general execution of the photo just doesn't feel polished.
Why is that guy in the 1st image swimming like a dead corpse? It really takes me out of the image.. 🙇